Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:22,Mike Andrew scribed: On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:14, Ted Ozolins wrote: The All in Wonder card is basically a Mach64 card, what driver did you use? Wooo! I didn't know that. Skippy, that's an 'unusual' driver for Xfree did you try that? Errm, what do you mean as I did not write whatever it was. I have never used a ATI card. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:37, Keith Antoine wrote: Errm, what do you mean as I did not write whatever it was. I have never used a ATI card. Earlier you stated that you couldn't install an ATI on a friend's machine over 3 distros. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:41,Mike Andrew scribed: On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:37, Keith Antoine wrote: Errm, what do you mean as I did not write whatever it was. I have never used a ATI card. Earlier you stated that you couldn't install an ATI on a friend's machine over 3 distros. Yes that is so, Caldera 2.4, Mandarke 8.1 and Suse 7.2, non would se the card. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:14, Ted Ozolins wrote: The All in Wonder card is basically a Mach64 card, what driver did you use? Wooo! I didn't know that. Skippy, that's an 'unusual' driver for Xfree did you try that? -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
I'm partial to nVidia. Their Linux device driver has worked nice in a FireWire video system I put together. I would like to know if the newer ATI cards that have firewire interfaces are fully supported on Linux. I have seen some references to firewire support, but in other places they say that the ATI cards use a firewire chip that is not supported. I guess I will check the ATI FAQ. So, thank's for the pointer. I did not check earlier because I expected what you expected. On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 |hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. In the FAQ they answer a lot of questions |honestly and fairly. Where some vendors would simply state that their hardware has |been known to work with Linux but they don't provide support, their FAQ gives quite a |bit of details about where to find help, what does work and what is being worked on. |While they don't directly support Linux (which of course would be better), the treat |it much like they do. They give links to OpenSource sites for support and |suggest(mildly) that users contribute at XFree86.org. | | As a strong Linux user/supporter, I like to see the kind of information that they |make available. I will definitely be purchasing ATI hardware in the near future, as |I am interested in video capture and conversion. AIW seems to be the way to go. I |am interested in others' input about this topic. | | Thought I'd let you know. -- = Roger Oberholtzer E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OPQ Systems AB WWW: http://www.opq.se Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 115 32 Stockholm Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 Sweden Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:55, Net Llama wrote: ATI may have lost ground against NVidia, but they haven't lost anything against Voodoo, which has become the has-been of the videocard world. In some ways they did. NVidia bought out Voodoo, lock, stock, barrel. *Had* Ati chosen to buy them instead, we might be singing different tunes. Not a contradiction at you llama, an observation. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote: ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
--- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I got four words for you..read before you write..about half the questions you asked it was already stated on my previous post..obviously you haven't read the Net Etiquette FAQ... Yea, whatever. You're just trolling now. The only reason why I bought those cards was that there was rebates that was supposed to come with the cards but I am still waiting after I bought my cards 1 1/2 years ago..I basically gave up waiting for my rebates. Let's try again, did you follow all the rules that the rebates required? I am not a disgrunted ATI Customer...even tho it might sound like it..but Not disgruntled, yet you state that you will never purchase their products again. Pick one please. right now I have two ATI Cards in my machine one works but the ATI TV Wonder won't work at all...I am just saying ATI don't support their shit and Others have stated the contrary. It sounds like they won't support *you*. Considering your attitude in this thread, i can't say that i blame them. You've come out with all guns blazing for a reason that I still haven't heard. You've made numerous broad generalizations, and provided no specifics on anything. I can picture your interaction with ATI already. YOU: Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! ATI: What specifically is the problem you're having? YOU: I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now! ATI: We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're having. YOU: Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again! ATI: click to tell you the truth...ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... Sure, you're obviously the expert on these things. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Monday 07 January 2002 10:05 am, Net Llama wrote : YOU: Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! ATI: What specifically is the problem you're having? YOU: I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now! ATI: We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're having. YOU: Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again! ATI: click ROFLMAO been there on both sides of the phone... that's how it usually ends up. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
At 10:13 AM 1/7/2002 -0600, you wrote: On Monday 07 January 2002 10:05 am, Net Llama wrote : YOU: Your shit won't work! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! ATI: What specifically is the problem you're having? YOU: I don't have time to waste with you, fix your stuff now! ATI: We'd like to help, but we need information on the problem you're having. YOU: Fsck you, you suck, i'll never buy from you again! ATI: click ROFLMAO I've been using ATI and Matrox cards for quite some time now without any problems. When I had an issue with the 1024 wonder card they cheerfully replaced it. Heck even when I bought the Rage Fury Pro AGP (32meg) it was not supported under linux, but it is now. If you like the latest and the greatest then perhaps you should be prepared to RTFM a lot. Eventually the card will be supported or some kind soul will post a work-around that will make it work. But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out of RD then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be done with it. JMHO Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
[ snips ] On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:42:04 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out of RD then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be done with it. Even that won't help. M$ certainly doesn't support all the latest cards straight out of the chute. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:32,Mike Andrew scribed: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote: ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing. I also have steered clear of this too. However my experience is that a great friend has one All in Wonder card. It will not work no matter what we do either with Caldera, Mandrake or Suse, so I will not look at one; he loves it otherwise. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
At 01:14 PM 1/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: [ snips ] On Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:42:04 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if you want the latest and greatest supported straight out of RD then perhaps you should settle for the M$ tax and be done with it. Even that won't help. M$ certainly doesn't support all the latest cards straight out of the chute. You are right, I had to go to ATI to get the proper driver for the Rage Fury Pro so that it would support the 3D GL on wintendo_XP. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
At 07:44 AM 1/8/2002 +1000, you wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:32,Mike Andrew scribed: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:40, Jerry wrote: ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... I don't buy into flame wars, but I support that observation. My *ultra* limited experience of ATI is that they have neither of the two essentials, a 'wow' grafix processor, and hypermarketing. I also have steered clear of this too. However my experience is that a great friend has one All in Wonder card. It will not work no matter what we do either with Caldera, Mandrake or Suse, so I will not look at one; he loves it otherwise. The All in Wonder card is basically a Mach64 card, what driver did you use? Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Whatever...:) I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free speech is allowed. I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing... Whatever..:) Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:05 AM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
--- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever...:) I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other I doubt you know what trolling is, other than your own behavior. All that i asked was for you to backup your rather inflamtory comments with facts. You have yet to do so. people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free speech is allowed. No, there is no such law. There is a law stating that the US government cannot prevent its citizens from speaking freely. This law has no bearing on what i allow you to say or not say. I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing... And that would be different from before exactly how? You've yet to say anything of subtance. Whatever..:) good riddence. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
I have nothing to say to you...except You Need Glasses since I have backed up accusations.. This is the last one I will respond too...I don't want to feed you anymore please go after some other people in this list or some other list you are on. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! --- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever...:) I have a feeling you got nothing to do except to troll me or any other I doubt you know what trolling is, other than your own behavior. All that i asked was for you to backup your rather inflamtory comments with facts. You have yet to do so. people or make fun of me..but I do believe there is a law stating free speech is allowed. No, there is no such law. There is a law stating that the US government cannot prevent its citizens from speaking freely. This law has no bearing on what i allow you to say or not say. I do not feed trolls so I will say nothing... And that would be different from before exactly how? You've yet to say anything of subtance. Whatever..:) good riddence. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
--- Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? ATI, the company that makes videocards. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Collins Richey wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? One of the largest suppliers of video cards to end users and OEM manufacturers. They now own the Fire GL line too which IMO is the best line of workstation grade video cards...supported under linux too. -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? Makers of video cards. Kurt -- Someone is speaking well of you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Well personally...I will never buy ATI stuff anymore in my lifetime due to the problems I have had with their Video Cards and TV Cards both with Linux and Windows. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? Makers of video cards. Kurt -- Someone is speaking well of you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Do you plan on backing this up with an explanation, or did you just want to slander a company for the fun of it? --- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well personally...I will never buy ATI stuff anymore in my lifetime due to the problems I have had with their Video Cards and TV Cards both with Linux and Windows. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? Makers of video cards. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Odd, I've used the All-InWonder and now the AGP All-In_Wonder 128 PRO under both linux and windows and have been very pleased with it's performance as a TV tuner in both enviros. GATOS is even got some beta video capture code working for the ATI cards. On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:11:21 -0700, you wrote: Well personally...I will never buy ATI stuff anymore in my lifetime due to the problems I have had with their Video Cards and TV Cards both with Linux and Windows. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? Makers of video cards. Kurt -- Someone is speaking well of you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
On January 06, Hemo enlightened our ignorance thusly: Odd, I've used the All-InWonder and now the AGP All-In_Wonder 128 PRO under both linux and windows and have been very pleased with it's performance as a TV tuner in both enviros. Indeed. I had an Xpert@Play 98 with 8Mb VRAM that worked like a charm. YMMV, I suppose. Kurt -- You will be reincarnated as a toad; and you will be much happier. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Why would I slander a company who is headquarted in my country without reason?? I have had ATI Rage Pro / ATI Mach Pro / ATI TV Wonder / ATI All-In-One wonder all have had big problems and when I email support or even called them I have never reached anybody until two months after I sent my email or message. That is why ATI has fallen against Voodoo and NVIDIA...before ATI was number one by a long shot and when Voodoo and NVIDIA came in ATI just died cause they don't support their cards...even when Windows 2000 came on ATI wasn't about to support it but due to the pressure they finally did it. As in Linux, ATI products sucks with different version for example Red Hat 7.0 which wasn't on the market long since ATI drivers didn't work with them but other video cards no problem... Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! Do you plan on backing this up with an explanation, or did you just want to slander a company for the fun of it? --- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well personally...I will never buy ATI stuff anymore in my lifetime due to the problems I have had with their Video Cards and TV Cards both with Linux and Windows. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! On January 06, Collins Richey enlightened our ignorance thusly: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:06:43 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone searched for Linux on ATI's web site? I did and found a decent 45 hits... one lead me to their Linux FAQ. Ok, my first dumb question of the day - who or what is ATI? Makers of video cards. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Jerry wrote: Why would I slander a company who is headquarted in my country without reason?? I have had ATI Rage Pro / ATI Mach Pro / ATI TV Wonder / ATI All-In-One wonder all have had big problems and when I email support or even called them I have never reached anybody until two months after I sent my email or message. That is why ATI has fallen against Voodoo and NVIDIA...before ATI was number one by a long shot and when Voodoo and NVIDIA came in ATI just died cause they don't support their cards...even when Windows 2000 came on ATI wasn't about to support it but due to the pressure they finally did it. As in Linux, ATI products sucks with different version for example Red Hat 7.0 which wasn't on the market long since ATI drivers didn't work with them but other video cards no problem... That's usually a case of having a card that was released card right after the version of XFree that shipped with the distro. Most ATI cards, except brand new ones, are supported by the current XFree. It's not fair to blame ATI for that, there are cases that could be made against almost all PC Part makers if you judge them based on support under linux. ATI at least cooperates with the development, if not actively participating. I think it's not much more than a year that 3Com has been supporting/developing their own linux drivers IIRC, many others are in the same boat. As far as the support goes, that's unfortunate. I've dealt with them 3-4 times, and all came to acceptable resolutions as far as I was concerned...I even talked to a human being once! ;) -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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So far from all my ATI's used(no AGP ones as of yet) I have been totally pleased in linux and windows... 4Mn PCI, *Mb PCI Expert @ play 98 and ATI expert 128 16Mb PCI All have performed flawlessly( I am still running the ATI 4Mb in my linuxbox, the card is 8 years old) and not a glitch On Sunday 06 January 2002 19:15, you were heard blurting out: On January 06, Hemo enlightened our ignorance thusly: Odd, I've used the All-InWonder and now the AGP All-In_Wonder 128 PRO under both linux and windows and have been very pleased with it's performance as a TV tuner in both enviros. Indeed. I had an Xpert@Play 98 with 8Mb VRAM that worked like a charm. YMMV, I suppose. Kurt -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... 9/11/01 http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 8:30pm up 158 days, 11:01, 15 users, load average: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
--- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would I slander a company who is headquarted in my country without reason?? I have had ATI Rage Pro / ATI Mach Pro / ATI TV Wonder / ATI All-In-One wonder all have had big problems and when I email support or even called them I have never reached anybody until two months after I sent my email or message. Did you send it to the correct address? Did you call the correct phone number? That is why ATI has fallen against Voodoo and NVIDIA...before ATI was ATI may have lost ground against NVidia, but they haven't lost anything against Voodoo, which has become the has-been of the videocard world. number one by a long shot and when Voodoo and NVIDIA came in ATI just died cause they don't support their cards...even when Windows 2000 came on ATI wasn't about to support it but due to the pressure they finally did it. As in Pressure from who? This makes no sense. Linux, ATI products sucks with different version for example Red Hat 7.0 Anyone who expected anything to work properly under RH7.0 was a fool. Even Linus was quoted as stating that RH7.0 was an abomination. which wasn't on the market long since ATI drivers didn't work with them but other video cards no problem... You're blaming ATI for the lack of drivers in XFree86?? I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Its apparent that you have an axe to grind. I don't see any real evidence here that ATI did anything wrong (zero evidence of any wrong doing), other than your perspective on things. You sound like a disgruntled customer that's now throwing a fit because they didn't get ATI to bend over backwards for them. Whatever. Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! Do you plan on backing this up with an explanation, or did you just want to slander a company for the fun of it? --- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well personally...I will never buy ATI stuff anymore in my lifetime due to the problems I have had with their Video Cards and TV Cards both with Linux and Windows. Thanks Jerry = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm impressed with ATI!
Well I got four words for you..read before you write..about half the questions you asked it was already stated on my previous post..obviously you haven't read the Net Etiquette FAQ... The only reason why I bought those cards was that there was rebates that was supposed to come with the cards but I am still waiting after I bought my cards 1 1/2 years ago..I basically gave up waiting for my rebates. I am not a disgrunted ATI Customer...even tho it might sound like it..but right now I have two ATI Cards in my machine one works but the ATI TV Wonder won't work at all...I am just saying ATI don't support their shit and to tell you the truth...ATI will either flounder this year or be taken over... Thanks Jerry - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: I'm impressed with ATI! --- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would I slander a company who is headquarted in my country without reason?? I have had ATI Rage Pro / ATI Mach Pro / ATI TV Wonder / ATI All-In-One wonder all have had big problems and when I email support or even called them I have never reached anybody until two months after I sent my email or message. Did you send it to the correct address? Did you call the correct phone number? That is why ATI has fallen against Voodoo and NVIDIA...before ATI was ATI may have lost ground against NVidia, but they haven't lost anything against Voodoo, which has become the has-been of the videocard world. number one by a long shot and when Voodoo and NVIDIA came in ATI just died cause they don't support their cards...even when Windows 2000 came on ATI wasn't about to support it but due to the pressure they finally did it. As in Pressure from who? This makes no sense. Linux, ATI products sucks with different version for example Red Hat 7.0 Anyone who expected anything to work properly under RH7.0 was a fool. Even Linus was quoted as stating that RH7.0 was an abomination. which wasn't on the market long since ATI drivers didn't work with them but other video cards no problem... You're blaming ATI for the lack of drivers in XFree86?? I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Its apparent that you have an axe to grind. I don't see any real evidence here that ATI did anything wrong (zero evidence of any wrong doing), other than your perspective on things. You sound like a disgruntled customer that's now throwing a fit because they didn't get ATI to bend over backwards for them. Whatever. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
