Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:33,Robert L. Hemus scribed: > My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and > back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? > Bob Hemus Many say its more reliable, probably due to thats the way they have always done things. However I do many DAO's without a problem. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Previously, Robert L. Hemus chose to write: > My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and > back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? > Bob Hemus For aduio CDs this is definately true. It's a least a good idea to rip them to the hard drive first to test the read device's ability to rip audio. I've got a 50x CD-ROM that cannot handle ripping audio at high speed (even 8x). I'm not sure why, but audio formats are different enough to cause problems with some CD readers. HTH, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Jan 10 zohar was heard saying: ->Sir, ->I am rephrasing the thing. ->I have windows XP on one partition. ->I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another ->On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). *** Zohar, Check your mail, you'll find a little hint from me... Cheers, Zoran. -- "Software is like sex, It's better when it's Free..." -- Linus Torvalds ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
THANK YOU For pointing out my mistake and suggestions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE Your terminology is inaccurate. A CDR is a CD Recorder (CD burner). a CDRW is a burner that can also blank & rewrite CDs. An ordinary old drive is a CDROM. Please see the Step-by-Step website (in my sig) for help setting up your CD burner in Linux. Its possible that your winmodem might work in Linux, but you'll need to research it at http://www.linmodems.org For the least amount of hassle, purchase a real modem. --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sir, > On is CD-R (only reader) and other is CD-RW(burner) and I want to keep > both so that if I want to copy a CD it can be done directly through > main > memory(Diskcopy like concept) and not to bother HDD for it. > > I also has to make my Linux to connect to internet but I have > Winmodem. > Can it go or should I purchase external modem. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On > Behalf Of Net Llama > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE > > Unless you have a really, really weird CDRW, it doesn't reside in an > OS, > its a physical device. > Setting it up is the same exact process as you used to setup the CDR. > If you don't mind me asking, why do you have 2 burners on the same > box? > > --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sir, > > I am rephrasing the thing. > > I have windows XP on one partition. > > I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another > > On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). > > > > I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. > I > > was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. > > > > > If I am still unclear you can mail me again. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On > > Behalf Of Net Llama > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:44 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE > > > > --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now > > only > > > on > > > my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on > > the > > > net for that. > > > > I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, > > setting > > up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:23:55 +1130 Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious about the genuflection bit. What are the consequences of not setting the genuflection bit? (Something about the execution bit occurs to me) (sorry, dumb joke, couldn't resist.) -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:03, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and > back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? Windoze doesn't have a monopoly on this. That's a *general* observation. The reason is because of the danger of buffer under-run to the written cd. *Anything* that slows that process down is a candidate for bad burns. Thus, you tend to avoid any other operation while cd burning (playing mahjonng eg), and reading from what is after all a SLOW cd ROM on the *same* ide channel is a nasty recipe. Burning from a hard disk isn't the answer, it's an answer, and an improvement over cd -> cd copying *simply* because a hard drive will keep up, a cdrom might not. That said, most cpu hardware is speedy enuff these days, the Linux OS certainly, and again, cd-r's (eg burn devices) come with 'burn proof technology' (whatever that means). The latter more or less ensures that the old homage of storing to hard drive first no longer applies. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:49, Michael Scottaline wrote: > Ahhh..., but we knew *his eminence* would set him straight now, didn't we, > your lordship? ;o) Just curious about the genuflection bit. Woudl that be with a patented Skippy magic wand and will you go blind? -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:07:00 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >--- "Robert L. Hemus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and >> back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? > >Perhaps with crappy windoze CD burning software, or if you have a burner >with a very small buffer. > Or the reader is too slow to keep up with the burning speed. Or you only have one drive. Or you run windows. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- "Robert L. Hemus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and > back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? Perhaps with crappy windoze CD burning software, or if you have a burner with a very small buffer. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- "Robert L. Hemus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Net Llama wrote: > > That's the wrong place. The correct place is /boot/grub/menu.lst > > I'm not even sure why /root/boot/grub/menu.lst would exist. > > > > = > > > > Lonni J. Friedman > Because I had to use the File Manager (Super User), but when I just > looked it's just /boot. Sorry. Which file manager are you using that munges the file sysem hierarchy structure so badly? Ditch it, NOW! = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Net Llama wrote: > That's the wrong place. The correct place is /boot/grub/menu.lst > I'm not even sure why /root/boot/grub/menu.lst would exist. > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman Because I had to use the File Manager (Super User), but when I just looked it's just /boot. Sorry. Bob ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
My local Windoze guru says you get a better copy from CDRW to hd? and back to CDRW. Correct or incorrect? Bob Hemus ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:19,Michael Scottaline scribed: > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:07:19 -0500 > > Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > > Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Keith Antoine managed to emit: > > > Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used > > > noramlly. Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. > > > > Yes Sir, Mr. Antoine, Sir. > > > > [snippage] > > = > Ahhh..., but we knew *his eminence* would set him straight now, didn't we, > your lordship? ;o) > Mike Kisses ring ?? -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 05:10, zohar wrote: > I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. I > was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. CD BURNING ->IDE -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:07:19 -0500 Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Keith Antoine managed to emit: > > > > Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used > > noramlly. Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. > > Yes Sir, Mr. Antoine, Sir. > > [snippage] > = Ahhh..., but we knew *his eminence* would set him straight now, didn't we, your lordship? ;o) Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, mid 16th Century ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Scribbling feverishly on January 12, Keith Antoine managed to emit: > > Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used noramlly. > Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. Yes Sir, Mr. Antoine, Sir. [snippage] K -- There will be big changes for you but you will be happy. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 03:34,zohar scribed: > Sir, Just to help with your English, in this list titles are not used noramlly. Most here would be embarrased with the use of, Sir. > On is CD-R (only reader) and other is CD-RW(burner) and I want to keep > both so that if I want to copy a CD it can be done directly through main > memory(Diskcopy like concept) and not to bother HDD for it. Well the advise that has been given and that which is on the SxS site should get you going. > I also has to make my Linux to connect to internet but I have Winmodem. > Can it go or should I purchase external modem. Yes definitely get an External Modem... -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Your terminology is inaccurate. A CDR is a CD Recorder (CD burner). a CDRW is a burner that can also blank & rewrite CDs. An ordinary old drive is a CDROM. Please see the Step-by-Step website (in my sig) for help setting up your CD burner in Linux. Its possible that your winmodem might work in Linux, but you'll need to research it at http://www.linmodems.org For the least amount of hassle, purchase a real modem. --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sir, > On is CD-R (only reader) and other is CD-RW(burner) and I want to keep > both so that if I want to copy a CD it can be done directly through > main > memory(Diskcopy like concept) and not to bother HDD for it. > > I also has to make my Linux to connect to internet but I have > Winmodem. > Can it go or should I purchase external modem. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On > Behalf Of Net Llama > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE > > Unless you have a really, really weird CDRW, it doesn't reside in an > OS, > its a physical device. > Setting it up is the same exact process as you used to setup the CDR. > If you don't mind me asking, why do you have 2 burners on the same > box? > > --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sir, > > I am rephrasing the thing. > > I have windows XP on one partition. > > I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another > > On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). > > > > I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. > I > > was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. > > > > > If I am still unclear you can mail me again. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On > > Behalf Of Net Llama > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:44 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE > > > > --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now > > only > > > on > > > my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on > > the > > > net for that. > > > > I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, > > setting > > up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Sir, On is CD-R (only reader) and other is CD-RW(burner) and I want to keep both so that if I want to copy a CD it can be done directly through main memory(Diskcopy like concept) and not to bother HDD for it. I also has to make my Linux to connect to internet but I have Winmodem. Can it go or should I purchase external modem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE Unless you have a really, really weird CDRW, it doesn't reside in an OS, its a physical device. Setting it up is the same exact process as you used to setup the CDR. If you don't mind me asking, why do you have 2 burners on the same box? --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sir, > I am rephrasing the thing. > I have windows XP on one partition. > I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another > On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). > > I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. I > was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. > > If I am still unclear you can mail me again. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On > Behalf Of Net Llama > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE > > --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now > only > > on > > my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on > the > > net for that. > > I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, > setting > up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
At 06:14 PM 1/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Unless you have a really, really weird CDRW, it doesn't reside in an OS, >its a physical device. >Setting it up is the same exact process as you used to setup the CDR. >If you don't mind me asking, why do you have 2 burners on the same box? > >That is perhaps he might be using wintendo programs that will write to >more than one burner at a time. With discjuggler I can burn two CD's at >the same time (two cdburners). I have a partition on my hard drive >dedicated to CD burning. I use two HP 9100 series burners for this. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Unless you have a really, really weird CDRW, it doesn't reside in an OS, its a physical device. Setting it up is the same exact process as you used to setup the CDR. If you don't mind me asking, why do you have 2 burners on the same box? --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sir, > I am rephrasing the thing. > I have windows XP on one partition. > I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another > On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). > > I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. I > was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. > > If I am still unclear you can mail me again. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On > Behalf Of Net Llama > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE > > --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now > only > > on > > my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on > the > > net for that. > > I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, > setting > up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Sir, I am rephrasing the thing. I have windows XP on one partition. I have Linux(SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4) on another On windows partition there is a 16x CD-RW of Priya(a local company). I want this CDRW to work also with Linux as my ASUS CD-R is working. I was asking from where I will find the STEP x STEP tutorial for this. If I am still unclear you can mail me again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE --- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now only > on > my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on the > net for that. I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, setting up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 04:35, Net Llama wrote: > Not really. I just spend my days buried in boxes where the *only* IDE > device is a CD drive, and everything else is SCSI. So its not the least > bit unusual for the CD drive to be /dev/hda. You've been so picky lately across a few posts, you exhibit all the symptoms of a programmer being bitten by not dotting all the i's crossing the t's. Or perhaps it's just me with C--, I've got to the point of just typing some useful sounding function name, and praying it 'works'. Doesn't seem to matter if I forget half the variables, the function fills in the blanks with defaults. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:11:55 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just want to see if I understand. If you add the > > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > line to your lilo.conf, then does that line cause the scsi module to > load? Or do you need to compile scsi support in to the kernel, AND use > that line? And if you have hdb and hdc, cd-rw and dvd, do you need to > add hdc=ide-scsi to that append? I have a CDRW and DVD player on hdc and hdd and had to append "hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi" for them to be seen as anything other than plain ol' CDROMs. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- "63,000 bugs in the code, 63,000 bugs, Ya get 1 whacked with a service pack, Now there's 63,005 bugs in the code!" -- from a Slashdot post ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:11,Ken Moffat scribed: > Just want to see if I understand. If you add the > > append="hdb=ide-scsi" > > line to your lilo.conf, then does that line cause the scsi module to load? > Or do you need to compile scsi support in to the kernel, AND use that > line? And if you have hdb and hdc, cd-rw and dvd, do you need to add > hdc=ide-scsi to that append? > > Thanks in advance. I have added hdb and hdc as I want xcdroast and others to see the drives as scsi drives. I can then do DAO so long as the drives are on differing cables. Yes you also have to have scsi support, scsi cdrives support and generic support included in the kernel. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:59:40 -0800 "Robert L. Hemus" wrote: > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > then reboot. > When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the > file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I > done, am doing wrong? > Thanks in advance. > Bob Hemus I had trouble some time back. Here is what I wrote after I solved it : I actually used the KDE Control Center (no lie!) In KDE Control Center, add ide-scsi at boot option in System->Startup->Kernel Modules->SCSI Then : rm /dev/cdrom ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom and edit /etc/fstab to have : /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 After all that and a reboot, it all works like it's supposed to. Apparently, KDE added a line to the end of the file /etc/modules/default ide-scsi -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Just want to see if I understand. If you add the append="hdb=ide-scsi" line to your lilo.conf, then does that line cause the scsi module to load? Or do you need to compile scsi support in to the kernel, AND use that line? And if you have hdb and hdc, cd-rw and dvd, do you need to add hdc=ide-scsi to that append? Thanks in advance. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:11:10 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in Libranet linux I once tried > > append="hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi" > > and locked up on reboot with a crc error > > during a time of heavy experimenting. > > That's not too surprising. If either hdb or hdc held / then i'd expect > a trainwreck upon reboot. > > = > > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arghh. I bet I left the cd in the drive and it was causing the error. I backed out of that change before fully testing it.-- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- zohar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now only > on > my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on the > net for that. I'm not following you here. Do you need help installing Linux, setting up a CDRW in Linux, or something else entirely? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:27:02 +1000 > Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You should edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst AFAIK there is no > /root/boot. I > have > never seen a crash or failed reboot due to the append > hdx=ide-scsi > string.> However the way that is inserted into the boot parameters > does > affect the > reboot and differs in differing distros, with "" without, > inside a total > string > > etc. > > > > -- > > Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' > > in Libranet linux I once tried > append="hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi" > and locked up on reboot with a crc error > during a time of heavy experimenting. That's not too surprising. If either hdb or hdc held / then i'd expect a trainwreck upon reboot. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:03, Net Llama wrote: > > > > the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide > > > drive. > > > > Note: it could also be the letter 'a'. > > Yeah, right. and the boot hard drive *might* be d, or scsi. > > You're currently buried deep in programming aren't you. Not really. I just spend my days buried in boxes where the *only* IDE device is a CD drive, and everything else is SCSI. So its not the least bit unusual for the CD drive to be /dev/hda. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:47, Keith Antoine wrote: > > *could* edit /etc/rc.local and type the magic words > > > > /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi > > Unfortunately this is distro dependent, or would seem so as in Suse the > cdrom drive I want as scsi is not seen as scsi until the append is > inserted. Also the cdrecoder is appended in lilo as a default. Mandrake > acts differently again. You are completely right about this. For those trying to get a handle, the bottom line is: *either* you want your cd drive(s) to be ide, OR, you want them to be scsi. What they turn out to be is solely determined by which of two modules get loaded first, *either* ide-cdrom, *or*, ide-scsi The append statement, while a very unsatisfactory kludge, is the cleanest means of ensuring that ide-scsi grabs a cd regardless of how the initscripts are configured. Although I know the kernel cdrom api fairly well, I'm at a loss why there's an ide-cdrom driver at all. Removing it (from kernel source) would solve the issue. I can't recall any cd function in the api that isn't handled by the scsi driver. What's even more curious (for me) is loading ide-scsi ALSO removes the need for ide-floppy (eg zip and ls120 ide drives). Either the scsi performance is attrocious or we have Maintainer's egos getting in the soup. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:08, Ken Moffat wrote: > in Libranet linux I once tried > append="hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi" > and locked up on reboot with a crc error > during a time of heavy experimenting. that's a completely legitimate 2.4.x syntax, and is a pretty sensible way of allowing cdrom -> cdr burns, elsewise, there's no way of doing direct cd->cd copying. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
I have also to install 16x CD-RW on Linux partition which is now only on my windows partition. Can you please say me where I have to go on the net for that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Robert L. Hemus Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:30 AM To: Linux Users Subject: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." then reboot. When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I done, am doing wrong? Thanks in advance. Bob Hemus ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:27:02 +1000 Keith Antoine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst AFAIK there is no /root/boot. I have > never seen a crash or failed reboot due to the append hdx=ide-scsi string.> However the way that is inserted into the boot parameters does affect the > reboot and differs in differing distros, with "" without, inside a total > string > etc. > > -- > Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' in Libranet linux I once tried append="hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi" and locked up on reboot with a crc error during a time of heavy experimenting. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:59,Robert L. Hemus scribed: > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > then reboot. > When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the > file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I > done, am doing wrong? > Thanks in advance. > Bob Hemus You should edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst AFAIK there is no /root/boot. I have never seen a crash or failed reboot due to the append hdx=ide-scsi string. However the way that is inserted into the boot parameters does affect the reboot and differs in differing distros, with "" without, inside a total string etc. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29,Mike Andrew scribed: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > > the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide drive. > > PS: > > IF you are running a 2.4 kernel the append is not necessary. Instead, you > *could* edit /etc/rc.local and type the magic words > > /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi Unfortunately this is distro dependent, or would seem so as in Suse the cdrom drive I want as scsi is not seen as scsi until the append is inserted. Also the cdrecoder is appended in lilo as a default. Mandrake acts differently again. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:03, Net Llama wrote: > > the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide > > drive. > > Note: it could also be the letter 'a'. Yeah, right. and the boot hard drive *might* be d, or scsi. You're currently buried deep in programming aren't you. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > > the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide > drive. Note: it could also be the letter 'a'. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
--- "R. Quenett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from Robert L. Hemus: > > " Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > " "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > Showing us what your menu.lst file looks like might help. > " then reboot. > " When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is > the > " file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what > have I > > Looks like the right place to me, from the little I know, but I'm > surprised you get an unbootable system. I'd check the kernel config. That's the wrong place. The correct place is /boot/grub/menu.lst I'm not even sure why /root/boot/grub/menu.lst would exist. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Mike Andrew wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > > the ? means, got that, OK...OL e2.4, of course.. > > PS: > IF you are running a 2.4 kernel the append is not necessary. Instead, you > *could* edit /etc/rc.local and type the magic words > > /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi > > -- > http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
Hemo wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:29:03 -0800, you wrote: > > >On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:59:40PM -0800, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > >> Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > >> "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > >> then reboot. > >> When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the > >> file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I > >> done, am doing wrong? > >> Thanks in advance. > >> Bob Hemus > > > >It would help if you told us what distro and kernel you're running. > >There are reports that things are different in distros released after > >the ones this SxS was tested on. > > > >Also, if there's anything more specific you can say about "won't reboot" > >it may help us figure out what's wrong. It goes thru stage 1-2 loads kernel, boots kernel, then up in the right hand corner in the "colors" it says kernel panic. press any key to continue goes back to . It'll boot Windoz OK. > > Aye, I'm a grubby one at that. I use GRUB and have followed the SxS > to setup my ide burner. > > First, what distro are you running. Second, I hope you aren't using > literally hd?=ide-scsi, but replacing the ? with the representation of > your actual drive. As previous message hdc. > > IDE primary master=a > IDE primary slave=b > IDE secondary master=c > IDE secondary slave=d > and so on.. > OL e2.4, only one CDROM hdc, have hda1, hdb1, hdb2, hdb3 > When my CDRW was connected as primary slave IDE device, I used the > line 'hdb=ide-scsi'. When I put that in /boot/grub/menu.lst in the kernel line I get >above problem?? Think I'm gonna try Mike's suggestion. Bob ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:29, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." the ? means use the letter b,c or d. Ie whichever is your cd ide drive. PS: IF you are running a 2.4 kernel the append is not necessary. Instead, you *could* edit /etc/rc.local and type the magic words /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:29:03 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:59:40PM -0800, Robert L. Hemus wrote: >> Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add >> "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." >> then reboot. >> When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the >> file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I >> done, am doing wrong? >> Thanks in advance. >> Bob Hemus > >It would help if you told us what distro and kernel you're running. >There are reports that things are different in distros released after >the ones this SxS was tested on. > >Also, if there's anything more specific you can say about "won't reboot" >it may help us figure out what's wrong. > >And I hope there's somebody here who groks both GRUB and CDRW, because >I have yet to make friends with GRUB. The stuff in the SxS about >GRUB was told me by others. > Aye, I'm a grubby one at that. I use GRUB and have followed the SxS to setup my ide burner. First, what distro are you running. Second, I hope you aren't using literally hd?=ide-scsi, but replacing the ? with the representation of your actual drive. IDE primary master=a IDE primary slave=b IDE secondary master=c IDE secondary slave=d and so on.. When my CDRW was connected as primary slave IDE device, I used the line 'hdb=ide-scsi'. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
from Robert L. Hemus: " Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add " "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." Is your kernel compiled with ide-scsi support? If yes try 'hdx=scsi'. The kernel configuration help for the relevant item mentions that rather than 'ide-scsi', tho I get the idea that both can/do work. " then reboot. " When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the " file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I Looks like the right place to me, from the little I know, but I'm surprised you get an unbootable system. I'd check the kernel config. R -- "...and if you choose to perish, do so with full knowledge of how cheaply how small an enemy has claimed your life." -John Galt (Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: StepXStep CD BURNERS-IDE
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 04:59:40PM -0800, Robert L. Hemus wrote: > Tn the step by steps to install a CDROM RW in step 2 it says you add > "hd?=ide-scsi to the kernel line in your menu.lst file." > then reboot. > When I do this it won't reboot. Need to use the rescue disk. Is the > file I need to work on in /root/boot/grub/menu.lst? If so, what have I > done, am doing wrong? > Thanks in advance. > Bob Hemus It would help if you told us what distro and kernel you're running. There are reports that things are different in distros released after the ones this SxS was tested on. Also, if there's anything more specific you can say about "won't reboot" it may help us figure out what's wrong. And I hope there's somebody here who groks both GRUB and CDRW, because I have yet to make friends with GRUB. The stuff in the SxS about GRUB was told me by others. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html "Life is short; eat dessert first!" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
