Re: geek movie _Center of the World_ (was Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Elaine -HFB- Ashton]

Paul Mison [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*>On 29/05/2001 at 18:04 +0100, Yeoh Yiu wrote:
*>>So have you seen _Center of the World_ yet ?
*>
*>Nah, 'cos it's not out here yet. No release date is listed on IMDB.
*>Salon didn't like it, though:

Salon has good taste too. Sucked harder than watching the queen mum on
Ascot Day. Boring and torporific well beyond my low expectations for the
movie. Go see Shrek instead.

e.

geek movie _Center of the World_ (was Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Yeoh Yiu]

So have you seen _Center of the World_ yet ?

YY

duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> see i dont mind 'lad's' magazines being covered in naked women,
> because i mean thats kinda what makes up the content of the magazine.
> but im very irritated by the fact that technology magazines are using
> sex to sell themselves.  i have a copy of 'stuff' and 't3' and both
> have semi naked models holding the gadgets and things being reviewed.
> i find it very annoying, because im only interested in the gadgets.
> if i wanted mild porn then i'd buy FHM!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> duncan

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[David H. Adler]

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:18:07AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
> > > 
> > > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!
> > 
> > Your hands *think*???
> > 
> 
> in fact, it was a recent Angel episode

Only because you guys are so far behind... :-)

dha, still recovering from the season finalii...

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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Greg McCarroll]

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
> > 
> > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!
> 
> Your hands *think*???
> 

in fact, it was a recent Angel episode

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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Greg McCarroll]

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
> > 
> > Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!
> 
> Your hands *think*???
> 
> dha, sees a sci-fi movie in here somewhere...
> 

that ones been done to death

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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Paul Makepeace]

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:33:04AM +0100, James Powell wrote:
> So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then?

A friend of mine and I were thinking of setting up a amIwroxornot.com
site with all the Wrox authors (and their huge mugshots) on a voting
site. I reckon this is Simon's secret fourth reason :-) [Hey, she
thought you were cute..]

Paul

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[David H. Adler]

On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 12:17:11PM +0100, Barbie wrote:
> 
> Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!

Your hands *think*???

dha, sees a sci-fi movie in here somewhere...

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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Barbie]

From: "Cross David - dcross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> From: Barbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:58 AM
>
> > From: "robert shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice
about
> > > a women are their eyes.  And women say the first thing they notice
about
> > > men are: they're a bunch of liars."
> >
> > That's not quite true. Women initial assume that all men are
automatically
> > lairs and work they're way up from there.
>   ^
>
> Actually, in this case the typos works pretty well too :)

Bugger! Brain thinking faster than my hands!

Barbie

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Matthew Jones]

> >> See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come 
> >> across too well in glossy magazine.
> >
> >Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n?
> 
> Mills and Boon.

Well, no, I just had this conversation offlist. I'd say that personality
pr0n is an oxymoron. YMMV.

-- 
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gonna kick it root down. 

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Jonathan Peterson]

At 11:06 21/05/01 +0100, you wrote:
>Dave Cross:
>
>> See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come 
>> across too well in glossy magazine.
>
>Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n?

Mills and Boon.


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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Robin Szemeti]

On Mon, 21 May 2001, James Powell wrote:

> So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then?


 .. err .. well theres ... ugh . and .. arr ... and we could
always get .. shudder

nope .. don't reckon that ones a winner. I know some Womens Institute in
Yorkshire made it bigtime with a calendar .. but I don;t think the
novelty of seeing London.pm arranged in orfer of merit and semi clad will
do the quite the same thing.

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Redpoint Consulting Limited
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RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Matthew Jones]

> I seem to recall some comic giving a rant to the effect of "Used to be
> just the magazines on the top shelf, everyone knew where they were,
> everyone knew what they were for. Then these FHM, Loaded, etc though -
> huh?  What are they, for blokes who "aren't sure" if they want to
> masturbate?"

Not just them (they're also for boys in their early teens who can't buy
Razzle). And my missus is a Loaded reader. She says that she genuinely likes
the articles and the magazine's sense of humour, but then she says that she
genuinely likes me, so I suppose that puts her taste into question! :)

-- 
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so how you gonna kick it?
gonna kick it root down. 

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Matthew Jones]

Dave Cross:
> > > And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a 
> > > woman (or man) was simply by looking at a photo.
> >
> >Its in the eyes, Dave, its in the eyes.
> 
> See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come 
> across too well in glossy magazine.

Hmmm. I wonder how you'd go about making personality pr0n?

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so how you gonna kick it?
gonna kick it root down. 

RE: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Cross David - dcross]

From: Barbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:58 AM

> From: "robert shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about
> > a women are their eyes.  And women say the first thing they notice about
> > men are: they're a bunch of liars."
> 
> That's not quite true. Women initial assume that all men are automatically
> lairs and work they're way up from there.
  ^

Actually, in this case the typos works pretty well too :)

Dave...

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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Barbie]

From: "robert shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> "According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about
> a women are their eyes.  And women say the first thing they notice about
> men are: they're a bunch of liars."

That's not quite true. Women initial assume that all men are automatically
lairs and work they're way up from there.

Barbie.

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Simon Wistow]

Robin Szemeti wrote:

> I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the
> crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will
> settle down eventually. 

If you see it lying around the reading 'Getting away with it - the story
of Loaded' by Tim Southwell is worth an afternoon (probably not worth
buying unless it's cheap though) if only for the first few chapters
about how they set up the magazine and the last few about how it started
to go wrong, the middle chapters are basically just anecodotes about
some of the interviews they did and aren't overly interesting. 

After Loaded started eating into and then eventually surpassing their
market share FHM et al changed their image to take a slice of the Lads'
Mags market.

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[James Powell]

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 05:26:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> >On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who
> > > finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really
> > > understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in
> > > this way.
> >
> >Although of course everyone objects most vociferously when Cosmo or some
> >similar magazines produce a list of 'The Worlds Sexiest Men'. :)
> 
> "Ooh, look! Look! They're doing it to. Therefore it _must_ be alright!"
> 
> Personally I find it just as objectionable, but funnily enough you don't it 
> anywhere near as much.
> 

So you don't fancy organizing a LPM Top 100 (well, maybe 25) then?


jp (who confesses he has bought FHM in the past, but not for at least
3 years, when it was highbrow ;) )

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[robert shiels]

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women


> At 20:50 20/05/2001, Mike Jarvis wrote:
> >Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> >DC> And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man)
was
> >DC> simply by looking at a photo.
> >
> >This is really two questions:
> >1) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
> >to have a relationship with?  (No)
> >
> >2) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
> >to have sex with?(Yes)
>
> OK. Well that's where I'm getting confused then. By believing the sex is
> also a relationship (however fleeting!) I think that the answer to 2 is
> also 'No' :)

Appropriately enough, I just got sent this:

"According to a recent survey, men say the first thing they notice about
a women are their eyes.  And women say the first thing they notice about
men are: they're a bunch of liars."

/Robert

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Mike Jarvis]

Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:17:03 PM, Dave Cross wrote:

DC> At 20:50 20/05/2001, Mike Jarvis wrote:
>>Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
>>
>>DC> And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was
>>DC> simply by looking at a photo.
>>
>>This is really two questions:
>>1) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
>>to have a relationship with?  (No)
>>
>>2) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
>>to have sex with?(Yes)

DC> OK. Well that's where I'm getting confused then. By believing the sex is 
DC> also a relationship (however fleeting!) I think that the answer to 2 is 
DC> also 'No' :)

I always viewed sex as a physical act that's great with someone you
love, but it can be pretty darned good even with someone you wouldn't
want to talk to.

The grudge-fuck after a breakup is often better (from a physical
standpoint) than the sex during a relationship.  Or so my ex's tell
me. ;)


-- 
mike

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Dave Cross]

At 20:50 20/05/2001, Mike Jarvis wrote:
>Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
>
>DC> And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was
>DC> simply by looking at a photo.
>
>This is really two questions:
>1) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
>to have a relationship with?  (No)
>
>2) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
>to have sex with?(Yes)

OK. Well that's where I'm getting confused then. By believing the sex is 
also a relationship (however fleeting!) I think that the answer to 2 is 
also 'No' :)

Dave...


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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Mike Jarvis]

Sunday, May 20, 2001, 3:19:47 AM, Dave Cross wrote:

DC> And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was 
DC> simply by looking at a photo.

This is really two questions:
1) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
to have a relationship with?  (No)

2) Can you tell from looking at a photo if this is someone you'd like
to have sex with?(Yes)


-- 
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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Piers Cawley]

Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote:
> >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
> > > >
> > > > The interesting bits are as follows;
> > >
> > > The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his
> > > living room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on
> > > the radio.
> >
> >Ahh Sara Cox - as deserving of her position in the FHM top 100
> >women as she is of her £750K out of the license fee for two years
> >blathering.
> 
> I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only
> one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've
> never really understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to
> objectify women in this way.

Indeed. I just thought Neil's reaction was funny.

> And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man)
> was simply by looking at a photo.

With you all the way here.

-- 
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www.iterative-software.com

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Dave Cross]

At 10:52 20/05/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
>
> > I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who
> > finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really
> > understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in
> > this way.
>
>Although of course everyone objects most vociferously when Cosmo or some
>similar magazines produce a list of 'The Worlds Sexiest Men'. :)

"Ooh, look! Look! They're doing it to. Therefore it _must_ be alright!"

Personally I find it just as objectionable, but funnily enough you don't it 
anywhere near as much.

> > And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was
> > simply by looking at a photo.
>
>Its in the eyes, Dave, its in the eyes.

See, I find it's in the personality. Which doesn't come across too well in 
glossy magazine.

> > Dave...
> > [disgruntled]
>
>Yeah, we noticed. Bad Hangover ?-)

No. That was yesterday. Today I'm just ranting at the world for no good reason.

Dave...


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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Martin Ling]

On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 10:47:43AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> 
> I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the
> crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will
> settle down eventually. I don't particularly care that much about it. The
> women in things like FHM are most certainly in there by choice and doing
> rather nicely from the whole thing thankyou. They are of course brainless
> bimbettes but thats another matter. I do find it rather objectionable is
> having them learing off the counter of every petrol station and
> newsagent you go to, when they should be on a nice high shelf somewhere. 

I seem to recall some comic giving a rant to the effect of "Used to be
just the magazines on the top shelf, everyone knew where they were,
everyone knew what they were for. Then these FHM, Loaded, etc though -
huh?  What are they, for blokes who "aren't sure" if they want to
masturbate?"

Most of the readership I'm aware of don't recall that much of the
eighties anyway...


Martin

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[duncan]

>I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the
>crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will
>settle down eventually.
[snip]
>  I do find it rather objectionable is
>having them learing off the counter of every petrol station and
>newsagent you go to, when they should be on a nice high shelf somewhere.

see i dont mind 'lad's' magazines being covered in naked women, because i 
mean thats kinda what makes up the content of the magazine.  but im very 
irritated by the fact that technology magazines are using sex to sell 
themselves.  i have a copy of 'stuff' and 't3' and both have semi naked 
models holding the gadgets and things being reviewed.  i find it very 
annoying, because im only interested in the gadgets.  if i wanted mild porn 
then i'd buy FHM!




duncan

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Robin Szemeti]

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
> At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote:
> >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
> > > >
> > > > The interesting bits are as follows;
> > >
> > > The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living
> > > room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on the radio.
> >
> >Ahh Sara Cox - as deserving of her position in the FHM top 100 women
> >as she is of her £750K out of the license fee for two years blathering.
> 
> I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who 
> finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really 
> understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in 
> this way.

Don't think you're in that much of a minority. But it seems top-shelf
magazines are becoming more acceptable in some circles these days. 

I suspect the current 'Lad's' magazines phase is a backlash against the
crazy political correctness of the 80's .. hopefully the whole thing will
settle down eventually. I don't particularly care that much about it. The
women in things like FHM are most certainly in there by choice and doing
rather nicely from the whole thing thankyou. They are of course brainless
bimbettes but thats another matter. I do find it rather objectionable is
having them learing off the counter of every petrol station and
newsagent you go to, when they should be on a nice high shelf somewhere. 


-- 
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Redpoint Consulting Limited
Real Solutions For A Virtual World

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Sun, 20 May 2001, Dave Cross wrote:

> At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote:
> >On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
> > > >
> > > > The interesting bits are as follows;
> > >
> > > The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living
> > > room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on the radio.
> >
> >Ahh Sara Cox - as deserving of her position in the FHM top 100 women
> >as she is of her £750K out of the license fee for two years blathering.
>
> I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who
> finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really
> understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in
> this way.
>

Although of course everyone objects most vociferously when Cosmo or some
similar magazines produce a list of 'The Worlds Sexiest Men'. :)

> And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was
> simply by looking at a photo.

Its in the eyes, Dave, its in the eyes.

>
> Dave...
> [disgruntled]
>

Yeah, we noticed. Bad Hangover ?-)

/J\

Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Dave Hodgkinson]

Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only
> one who finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've
> never really understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to
> objectify women in this way.

Just 'cause no one would ever treat you like a sex object...

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Re: Sara Cox - was Re: FHM Top 100 Sexiest Women

[Dave Cross]

At 00:06 20/05/2001, James Powell wrote:
>On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 12:00:38AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> > Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Just picked up the latest FHM to check out the above mentioned list...
> > >
> > > The interesting bits are as follows;
> >
> > The really interesting bit was Mr Ford dancing around in his living
> > room crowing because Sara Cox had read his name out on the radio.
>
>Ahh Sara Cox - as deserving of her position in the FHM top 100 women
>as she is of her £750K out of the license fee for two years blathering.

I'm sure I'm really in the minority here, but I can't be the only one who 
finds all this discussion of the FHM list distasteful. I've never really 
understood why intelligent men find it acceptable to objectify women in 
this way.

And besides, since when could you work out how sexy a woman (or man) was 
simply by looking at a photo.

Dave...
[disgruntled]


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