Buffy... Wow
Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... Wow, cool, and amazing, I didn't think it would work. I actually think it was one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time, not saying that the singing was great or that they are usually bad or anything, but it just seemed to work for me. And Spike! - that's just twisted... Well, just had to express my enjoyment of it. Laters Leo
ObBuffy: alt.humor.best-of-usenet post
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Re: Buffy... Wow
* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... Wow, cool, and amazing, I didn't think it would work. so what do you think your favourite tune was? (the mp3's were on gnutella the next morning) I must admit i liked I've got a theory, but mainly due to the Bunny insanity. I actually think it was one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time, get ready to become an Angel fan, BtVS goes down hill after this. although that might just be because we haven't seen the big baddy for the series yet. not saying that the singing was great or that they are usually bad or anything, but it just seemed to work for me. Giles can sing quite well, he's got the accent and he knows where to point it. Tara can sing as well. Buffy wasn't bad, but Willow and Xander seemed to keep a little quiet ;-) Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: Buffy... Wow
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:20:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... Wow, cool, and amazing, I didn't think it would work. so what do you think your favourite tune was? (the mp3's were on gnutella the next morning) I must admit i liked I've got a theory, but mainly due to the Bunny insanity. I actually think it was one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time, get ready to become an Angel fan, BtVS goes down hill after this. although that might just be because we haven't seen the big baddy for the series yet. not saying that the singing was great or that they are usually bad or anything, but it just seemed to work for me. Giles can sing quite well, he's got the accent and he knows where to point it. Tara can sing as well. Buffy wasn't bad, but Willow and Xander seemed to keep a little quiet ;-) Although Willow *did* have the line that made me laugh the most in the song on the way to the demon at the end: I think this line's mostly filler I laughed out loud! :) -- Natalie Ford .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: london.pm digest, Vol 1 #611 - 24 msgs
On Thursday, February 14, 2002, at 10:27 PM, Mike Jarvis wrote: On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 17:04, Tim Noll wrote: And, as far as the london.pm meetings go, I'm off to the States for two weeks starting tomorrow. But when I return, if I can manage to drag some of my hapless colleagues along, I might just try to avoid that teaspoon mauling. They've gotten worse. When I was there the game was slap the yank. Seems like they've escalated. We prefer the term 'focused' :-) --james
MMS [was: Re: The Hotel Fiasco 2 - Please read and respond]
On Thursday, February 14, 2002, at 06:04 PM, Lucy McWilliam wrote: * Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: people staying at the MMS have a good stay, so I'm going to I blame NMS for the above, it should of course of been MMA. MMS = Michael Marshall Smith. Great author. 'Only Forward' was my favorite book for a very very long time. I've been reasonably disapointed by the books that followed, not because they were poor, but because they were so similar. I think if I'd read any of the other books first I would have loved them too. On the other hand the short stories in the latest compilation work (I forget the title right now) were great. He seems to target a specific emotion from the reader and really rip it out. I had to march around my flat punching walls after [I think] the first story. Anyway, James.
Re: Buffy... Wow
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:20:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... preserving... so what do you think your favourite tune was? (the mp3's were on gnutella the next morning) I really liked the last song; 'Where do we go from here'? Although the song and dance of Xander and Anya was probably the most amusing. And was it me, or did Sky cut Tara's song off just at the end? I actually think it was one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time, get ready to become an Angel fan, BtVS goes down hill after this. although that might just be because we haven't seen the big baddy for the series yet. Oh, I have a theory about this. But it's not original. All I'll point out is that we've seen the three nerds (oh, Simon Wistow posted about these somewhere- IRC, maybe- and I can see his point about them completely, but he should probably reiterate it if he cares) and we've seen somebody who obviously has a lot of power who is beginning to misuse it... not saying that the singing was great or that they are usually bad or anything, but it just seemed to work for me. Giles can sing quite well, he's got the accent and he knows where to point it. Tara can sing as well. Buffy wasn't bad, but Willow and Xander seemed to keep a little quiet ;-) Willow evidently can't sing, or, indeed, dance. I think one of the best things about the episode was that anyone who was really bad at doing the musical stuff got nicely hidden away. It reminded me of some of the episodes in Babylon 5 where JMS suddenly said 'actually, you thought there was this and this. Actually, it's *this* and *these four other things*. The fact that this episode managed something like that- but in song- is what's really surprising. -- :: paul :: the future has been and gone
Re: Buffy... Wow
That is SO cruel. I moved out to Amsterdam on Tuesday and I don't have sky - or currently a tv. Leo if you're going to give a spoiler make it a substative one, or make it as a 'teaser' Now's I'm just all curious about things which are twisted. Oh, how I need cable! fiq On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Leo Lapworth wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... Wow, cool, and amazing, I didn't think it would work. I actually think it was one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time, not saying that the singing was great or that they are usually bad or anything, but it just seemed to work for me. And Spike! - that's just twisted... Well, just had to express my enjoyment of it. Laters Leo
Re: Buffy... Wow
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Rafiq Ismail (ADMIN) wrote: That is SO cruel. I moved out to Amsterdam on Tuesday and I don't have sky - or currently a tv. Leo if you're going to give a spoiler make it a substative one, or make it as a 'teaser' I hear that, in some dark, seedy corners of the internet, you can actually download all of the current series, and have been able to for many weeks. There are even some versions which don't have network idents in the corner. the hatter
Re: Buffy... Wow
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:47:47AM +, Paul Mison said: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:20:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... preserving... Oh, I have a theory about this. But it's not original. All I'll point out is that we've seen the three nerds (oh, Simon Wistow posted about these somewhere- IRC, maybe- and I can see his point about them completely, but he should probably reiterate it if he cares) Which I will do, because, well, I'm sad. The nerds really piss me off. They're so flat and stereotypical. Compared to other 8uffy characters they're barely developed at all. That alone is enough to piss me off. What pisses me off even more is that 8uffy was *supposed* to be about the nerds and the geeks and the outcasts. 8uffy her self, an ex-cheerleader and prom queen, was teased as being a freak and hung out with Xander, a loser goof ball and Willow, a computer geek. They hung around in the library and on their own in the school yard. They were the antipothesis of the 'kids' in Beverly Hills 90210 (also shot at the same school) and in Saved By The Bell (who were good at *everything*). The whole series was one long frickin metaphor about school being tough. The Xander / Cordelia thing was _genius_. The gay jock was funny. Ok, so 8uffy was always stylish (well, msotly) but still. Now, Xanders got a cute girlfriend and a flat to die for and appears to be a foreman after only one year being a builder and Willow dyed her hair and went shopping with a stylist and Mr Whedon has seen fit to slap a load of stereotype nerdlings straight from an 80's movie. Christ, I'm suprised he doesn't make them wear thick black glasses, pocket protectors and propellor beanies. He better have a fucking good reason for this. -- : as seen on tv
Re: Buffy... Wow
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:47:47AM +, Paul Mison said: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:20:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... preserving... Oh, I have a theory about this. But it's not original. All I'll point out is that we've seen the three nerds (oh, Simon Wistow posted about these somewhere- IRC, maybe- and I can see his point about them completely, but he should probably reiterate it if he cares) a load of stereotype nerdlings straight from an 80's movie. Christ, I'm suprised he doesn't make them wear thick black glasses, pocket protectors and propellor beanies. He better have a fucking good reason for this. to distract people from the real seasion big baddy ... Willow and no, i don't know this for sure yet -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
current MMA booking list
As stated earlier, I'm now just worrying about people staying in the MMA, to that end, here is my current list, please send additions corrections offlist (i'm sure there are probably some errors). Single: Greg McCarroll Double: Paul Barbie Hughes Richard C Double: Philip Newton Struan (Needs Seperate Invoice) Single: Jonathan Stowe Double: Leo Lapworth Mark Fowler Double: Kate L Pugh Partner Double: Lucy McWilliam Anthony Fisher Single: Simon Wilcox Double: Karen Pauley Single: Karen Pauley (again) Single: Dave Cantrell People Looking For A Roommate for MMS, James Duncan Sue Spence (Female Roomie) Unknowns/uncomfirmed, Kevin Lenzo Marcel Grunauer Andrew Wilson Leon Brocard DHA + NY.pm crew -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
RE: London newbie questions
1) Can you recommend a good ISP that provides 0800 dialup numbers? We currently have UUnet accounts, but they use 0845 numbers, resulting in hotel phone charges; however, the hotels we use don't charge for 0800 calls. Please no services that require proprietary client software, either. I use FreeServe Hometime - 12.99/mo and all calls are to an 0808 number (freephone - same as 0800). 1st month was free and it is debited as a C/C transaction - no direct debit/standing order required. Apologies - the actual name of this service is FreeServe AnyTime. perl -le s,,reverse killer,e,y,rifle,lycra,,print
Re: current MMA booking list
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: version 1.3 (JD+AW - Double at MMA) version 1.2 .. (LB - Single at MMA) version 1.1 (AW - Looking for Roommate) Single: Greg McCarroll Double: Paul Barbie Hughes Richard C Double: Philip Newton Struan (Needs Seperate Invoice) Single: Jonathan Stowe Double: Leo Lapworth Mark Fowler Double: Kate L Pugh Partner Double: Lucy McWilliam Anthony Fisher Single: Simon Wilcox Double: Karen Pauley Single: Karen Pauley (again) Single: Dave Cantrell Single: Leon Brocard Double: James Duncan Andrew Wilson People Looking For A Roommate for MMS, Sue Spence (Female Roomie) Unknowns/uncomfirmed, Kevin Lenzo Marcel Grunauer DHA + NY.pm crew -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/ -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: current MMA booking list
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 02:32:00PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: sorry for list spam, but this is going to continue until monday when i talk to CSM, finish everything up and get Y::E to update their accom page Why not put it on a web page and people can grab a refresh when they're interested in it? P
Re: current MMA booking list
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Why not put it on a web page and people can grab a refresh when they're interested in it? Cats don't go out of their way to go and look at notice boards to find out where they should be. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: current MMA booking list
version 1.4 .. (RS - Single at MMA) version 1.3 (JD+AW - Double at MMA) version 1.2 .. (LB - Single at MMA) version 1.1 (AW - Looking for Roommate) Single: Greg McCarroll Double: Paul Barbie Hughes Richard C Double: Philip Newton Struan (Needs Seperate Invoice) Single: Jonathan Stowe Double: Leo Lapworth Mark Fowler Double: Kate L Pugh Partner Double: Lucy McWilliam Anthony Fisher Single: Simon Wilcox Double: Karen Pauley Single: Karen Pauley (again) Single: Dave Cantrell Single: Leon Brocard Double: James Duncan Andrew Wilson Single: Randal Schwartz People Looking For A Roommate for MMS, Sue Spence (Female Roomie) Unknowns/uncomfirmed, Kevin Lenzo Marcel Grunauer DHA + NY.pm crew -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
RE: current MMA booking list
Miow! -Original Message- From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 February 2002 16:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: current MMA booking list Cats don't go out of their way to go and look at notice boards to find out where they should be. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: The Hotel Fiasco
On Thursday, February 14, 2002, at 10:41 AM, Greg McCarroll wrote: The following prices assume staying for the 17,18,19,20,21. Please double check the prices, I worked them out quickly. I'm a bit late in replying I suppose, because I've been trekking my wayward brother all over london. However, whatever the decision is, its fine with me, I will just have to save my pennies. If there is anyone who wants to share however, count me in, as I'm all for reducing costs where possible without giving Greg a headache. Regards, James.
Re: MMS [was: Re: The Hotel Fiasco 2 - Please read and respond]
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Steve Rushe wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:47:46AM +, James A Duncan wrote: MMS = Michael Marshall Smith. Great author. 'Only Forward' was my favorite book for a very very long time. It's still in my top ten. The next one appears to be a departure from the previous ones. Apparently its more of a straight thriller. It had better be worth the wait though :) The Straw Men should be out in AUgust. At lat! Hmm, maybe CUSFS can get him to come and talk. The collection is What You Make It, and I guess the story is Save As, which is far too disurbing a story for it's own good. Diet Hell is just great ;-) Okay, can people recommend some good hard scientific skiffy, e.g. along the lines of Carl Sagan, Neal Stephenson, Michael Crichton and Paul McAuley? And don't say Greg Bear, because he always disappoints me. L. Everyone deserves a happy ending. Even me.
Re: MMS [was: Re: The Hotel Fiasco 2 - Please read and respond]
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 05:32:12PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Okay, can people recommend some good hard scientific skiffy, e.g. along the lines of Carl Sagan, Neal Stephenson, Michael Crichton and Paul McAuley? And don't say Greg Bear, because he always disappoints me. Greg Egan Charles Sheffield, earlier work Jack McDevitt, not so much hard science but a similar feel Vernor Vinge, perhaps Roger -- He's a genetically engineered hunchbacked hairdresser on the run. She's a bloodthirsty winged queen of the dead married to the Mob. They fight crime!
[ANNOUNCE] Next social: Return to the Yorke
Once again our excellent Person Who Speaks To People On Phones, Kake, has rung up the Cittie of Yorke about the next social on March 7th. She spoke to the manager who said, roughly; * Usually booking the room is free if you spend more than 500 ukp; they take a 100 ukp deposit which isn't refunded if they don't take enough. * They didn't do this last time because there were two bookings; * They're happy for us to rent the entire bar, with no deposit; * Unofficially, they may be happy with a 350 ukp take; * If we don't get enough people we'd have to allow them to open the rest of the cellar bar to other people. * Specifically, they want 20-ish people by about 7pm. Provisionally we've booked the entire cellar bar, but last time we only just filled our section. It might be more politic to only take the half we took last time, since that would allow us to get by bringing in less revenue, and they wouldn't have to work around us so much. Does anyone have any strong opinions on this either way? My preference, for what it's worth, is to book only half. -- :: paul :: the future has been and gone
Re: Buffy... Wow
On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 06:52, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:47:47AM +, Paul Mison said: On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:20:18AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sky Buffy... don't scroll if you didn't see it last night. spoiler... preserving... Oh, I have a theory about this. But it's not original. All I'll point out is that we've seen the three nerds (oh, Simon Wistow posted about these somewhere- IRC, maybe- and I can see his point about them completely, but he should probably reiterate it if he cares) a load of stereotype nerdlings straight from an 80's movie. Christ, I'm suprised he doesn't make them wear thick black glasses, pocket protectors and propellor beanies. He better have a fucking good reason for this. to distract people from the real seasion big baddy ... Willow and no, i don't know this for sure yet I don't think it's Willow either. Amy is much more likely, but I won't say more here, since I can't keep up with what you do and don't already know. But Amy is also just a guess. This isn't the first time they've waited so long to tell us. Series 3 and 4 both waited until more than halfway through to let you know. -- mike Asked why the right wing despises him so, the former president answered simply, Because I won.
Re: Book Reviews: Cross-Platform Perl
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 12:48:22PM -, Ivor Williams wrote: Hi Folks, Anybody seen or got a copy of Cross-Platform Perl by Eric Foster-Johnson? http://www.pconline.com/~erc/perlbook.htm I've not got it, but looked at the above page which starts When I first started learning Perl, I actually thought Perl was an evil plot. The syntax tends to the obscure and obtuse and is just plain difficult to master. You'll find lots of bizarre syntax, such as the ubiquitous $_, ... and continues Let's face it; Perl is hard. Well this user has never found Perl hard ... sometimes it's hard trying to work out what *I* want to do/have done -- but once I've done that, writing the Perl is the easy bit :-) (Choosing the elegantest way of writing it in Perl, now that's hard!). Since he is building-up a straw man, at least on the (virtual) back cover, it's a book I'm never going to recommend to anyone -- along with any book that encourages readers to think of themselves as idiots. (there should probably be a (tm) attached to the previous sentence). In training that's called setting expectations -- and this sets readers up to fail. Yours semiotically/grumpily :-) -- Chris Benson
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Next social: Return to the Yorke
* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Does anyone have any strong opinions on this either way? My preference, for what it's worth, is to book only half. Well, its not a preference, its more of a desire ... I'd like to suggest that we make this a special social meeting. Lets take the whole of the cellar and make it a challenge for us as a group to make it worthwhile for the bar, i'm not suggesting we drink/spend more to meet the 350-500 target, but instead, to bring Perl programming friends along, maybe to encourage old members of the list who don't turn up that often to come along and also to badger new members of the group who haven't made their first meet to make it. Greg p.s. i'm not having anything to do with organising this, the hotel is enuff ;-), i nominate Paul to lead the badgering effort ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: Milan (was Re: User Input at speed)
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Newton, Philip wrote: I remember Milan. I had to change planes there twice. On the way there, I had one hour to change planes, and the first plan was an hour late. Result: the lady from the checkout desk ran with me down the walkway when she saw me approaching and knocked on the window of the cockpit to get him to open the door again (it had just closed five minutes before). I got to my destination but my luggage didn't :( Planes. Fun. I've been on one substantial flight in the last few years and that was to OSCON 2000 in Monterey. I got to Heathrow, checked in, had breakfast and *then* they decided to cancel the flight. So I had to run and get an earlier one. I got to Chicago, a large customs man with a handgun questioned me, I queued for a while and, again, had to run for the flight. I got to LA, ran for my next flight in a teeny plane and my luggage got left behind. What an adventure! Almost as good as getting lost in Singapore airport. L. It's Friday, I'm waffling.
Re: MMS [was: Re: The Hotel Fiasco 2 - Please read and respond]
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 05:32:12PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: The Straw Men should be out in AUgust. At lat! Hmm, maybe CUSFS can get him to come and talk. That would be well worth it, we had him over to Belfast and he's a pleasure to have visiting. 5th of August is the date I found. Rather nifty cover too. Okay, can people recommend some good hard scientific skiffy, e.g. along the lines of Carl Sagan, Neal Stephenson, Michael Crichton and Paul McAuley? And don't say Greg Bear, because he always disappoints me. Greg Egan is one I keep being told to read, but I haven't made it round to him yet. Might be worth a gander. Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk www.deeden.co.uk/mms - The Unofficial MMS Site
Re: MMS [was: Re: The Hotel Fiasco 2 - Please read and respond]
On Fri 15 Feb 2002, Steve Rushe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Egan is one I keep being told to read, but I haven't made it round to him yet. Might be worth a gander. If you come to the next social meet then I will bring some and lend it to you. Kake
Re: current MMA booking list
version 1.6 .. (RD - Double) version 1.5 (MG - wanting a roommate) version 1.4 .. (RS - Single at MMA) version 1.3 (JD+AW - Double at MMA) version 1.2 .. (LB - Single at MMA) version 1.1 (AW - Looking for Roommate) Single: Greg McCarroll Double: Paul Barbie Hughes Richard C Double: Philip Newton Struan (Needs Seperate Invoice) Single: Jonathan Stowe Double: Leo Lapworth Mark Fowler Double: Kate L Pugh Partner Double: Lucy McWilliam Anthony Fisher Single: Simon Wilcox Double: Karen Pauley Single: Karen Pauley (again) Single: Dave Cantrell Single: Leon Brocard Double: James Duncan Andrew Wilson Single: Randal Schwartz Double: Redvers Davies People Looking For A Roommate for MMS, Sue Spence (Female Roomie) Marcel Grunauer Unknowns/uncomfirmed, Kevin Lenzo DHA + NY.pm crew -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/ -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/