RE: Learning regular expressions
Hey - I didn't realise there was a second edition. Mastering Regular expressions is what I learnt from, found it great. Gareth -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Fowler You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. O'Reilly: 0-596-00289-0 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ Shouldn't someone be reviewing this for the site? Mark. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: Learning regular expressions
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Phil Dobbin wrote: You can't go wrong with Jeffrey Friedl's `Mastering Regular Expressions' (O'Reilly: 1-56592-257-3). You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. O'Reilly: 0-596-00289-0 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ Shouldn't someone be reviewing this for the site? Mark. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
YAPC::NA CFP ends on Tues 25th March
Hello. This is a reminder that the deadline on abstract submittal for YAPC::NA is on the 25th (i.e. a week today.) This is for all types of talks (lightning, short, long, and extra long.) http://www.yapc.org/America/cfp.shtml This has been a public service announcement, we now return you to your usual discussion. Mark. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: Learning regular expressions
Quoting Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Phil Dobbin wrote: You can't go wrong with Jeffrey Friedl's `Mastering Regular Expressions' (O'Reilly: 1-56592-257-3). You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. O'Reilly: 0-596-00289-0 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ Shouldn't someone be reviewing this for the site? I just finished reading it (privately). I agree that if you're serious about regexes, you should read this book. The second edition also contains chapters on Java, VB.net, .. Perl is still the main languange of this book though. After reading this book I was able to speed up a regex we're using in production by a factor of 4. Kris,
Starting Again
Hi All, I started to learn Perl and then had a period in Hospital which has put me right back where I started. I would like to delete all references to Perl on my website so that I can start from scratch. My website is hosted on an Apache server and I use windows2000 on my PC. I tried to delete all the Perl related files on the server but ended up with some directories that could not be deleted because the directory held files that I could not view. Some help or advise would be greatly appreciated. Regards Brian Smart
Re: Learning regular expressions
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Phil Dobbin wrote: You can't go wrong with Jeffrey Friedl's `Mastering Regular Expressions' (O'Reilly: 1-56592-257-3). You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. O'Reilly: 0-596-00289-0 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ Shouldn't someone be reviewing this for the site? *looks down at the ground and shuffles feet nervously* Greg -- *** *** *** Email address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please *** *** update your email address book. *** *** *** Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Learning regular expressions
On Tue Mar 18 10:21:20 2003, Mark Fowler wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Phil Dobbin wrote: You can't go wrong with Jeffrey Friedl's `Mastering Regular Expressions' (O'Reilly: 1-56592-257-3). You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. Or you could come to Belfast next Monday and hear Mark Jason Dominus give his Perl Regular Expression Mastery course. -- Marty
Re: Starting Again
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Brian Smart wrote: I started to learn Perl and then had a period in Hospital which has put me right back where I started. I would like to delete all references to Perl on my website so that I can start from scratch. My website is hosted on an Apache server and I use windows2000 on my PC. I tried to delete all the Perl related files on the server but ended up with some directories that could not be deleted because the directory held files that I could not view. Some help or advise would be greatly appreciated. If you cannot view or delete the files from FTP this usually indicates that the web process created the files with odd permissions. The easiest way to resolve this is to nicely ask your web hosting company to remove the files for you. Jason Clifford -- UKFSN.ORG Finance Free Software while you surf the 'net http://www.ukfsn.org/ Get the T-Shirt Now
Re: Starting Again
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Brian Smart wrote: could not be deleted because the directory held files that I could not view. You can delete all directories and files within a directory by logging into your apache box with ssh/telnet, or the command line ftp utility[1]. bash$ pwd # print out where you are to make /where/your/files/are # sure you're in the right dir bash$ rm -rf direcory_name # delete directories children Be *VERY* careful with this command. It won't ask you for confirmation (that's what the -f option means) and it will delete all your files very quickly. There's no undo and no undelete. I've killed laptops with this command in the past (sorry Leon) though not giving it enough respect. rm will delete hidden files when it works recursively as in the above example. rm * (which is what you've probably been using) will however _not_. You can list hidden files (those starting with a .) by typing bash$ ls -a # list _all_ files, inc. hidden in current dir bash$ ls -a foo # same for the directory foo Mark. [1] Start-Run cmd, hit OK, then type ftp www.servername.com -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Oracle Jobs @ UK? [Was: Re: Obsolete software]
Hy list folks. I was reading this thread and wondering about how is the oracle DBA market at London. Can anybody here tell me if there is good job offers for a certified oracle DBA at London and surroundings? Thank you very much for any informations. Best regards. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Luis Campos de Carvalho Computer Science Student OCP DBA Oracle Unix Sys Admin =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Original Message - From: Lusercop `the.lusercop'@lusercop.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Obsolete software On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:03:35PM +, Chris Benson wrote: We're spending about 6 hours every Sunday mornings gathering stats for one application :-( It seems that we've also been wasting 2hours a night gathering partial (estimated) stats ... which overwrite the complete stats. So we're better off with week-old actual values than 1 day-old estimates! Isn't Oracle wonderful: jobs for life(tm) % [Oracle's work unit licensing], however leads to gainful employment for people who'd otherwise be cluttering up park benches. Justify your job for a whole year by reducing Oracle CPU use by just 5%. :-) -- Andrew Mobbs % -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere since 2002
Re: Learning regular expressions
On 18/3/03 10:21, Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Phil Dobbin wrote: You can't go wrong with Jeffrey Friedl's `Mastering Regular Expressions' (O'Reilly: 1-56592-257-3). You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. [...] Hey, I've bought thirty-two O'Reilly books as it is ;-) Regards, Phil. -- for(reverse(1..100)){$s=($_==1)? '':'s';print$_ bottle$s of beer on the wall,\n; print$_ bottle$s of beer,\nTake one down, pass it around,\n; $_--;$s=($_==1)?'':'s';print$_ bottle$s of beer on the wall\n\n;}print'*burp*';
Re: Oracle Jobs @ UK? [Was: Re: Obsolete software]
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 12:31, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Hy list folks. I was reading this thread and wondering about how is the oracle DBA market at London. Can anybody here tell me if there is good job offers for a certified oracle DBA at London and surroundings? http://www.jobstats.co.uk/jobstats.d/Details.d/Trends.d/SKILL/ORACLE.d/index.html http://www.jobstats.co.uk/jobstats.d/Details.d/Trends.d/LOCATION/LONDON.d/index.html -- Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Learning regular expressions
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:41:18PM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hey, I've bought thirty-two O'Reilly books as it is ;-) I'll raise you: (gulp) forty-eight at home[*] including the 1988 (first?) edition of the X11 manuals. I blame Josette. You can't turn round without getting a discount: London PerlMounger - get a discount, Tyneside PerlMounger - get a discount, UKUUG member - get a discount, ... :-) [*] implying an uncounted number at work ... -- Chris Benson
Re: Oracle Jobs @ UK? [Was: Re: Obsolete software]
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:51:49PM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 12:31, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: I was reading this thread and wondering about how is the oracle DBA market at London. Can anybody here tell me if there is good job offers for a certified oracle DBA at London and surroundings? http://www.jobstats.co.uk/jobstats.d/Details.d/Trends.d/SKILL/ORACLE.d/index.html http://www.jobstats.co.uk/jobstats.d/Details.d/Trends.d/LOCATION/LONDON.d/index.html Looks like a qualified maybe. (Up 1% since February!). -- Chris Benson
RE: Starting Again
Hello Mark and others who replied to my query, I have managed to delete the offending files so I am now back to the start. Ivor queried if I was using Activestate on my PC. I installed that without any difficulty and have been able to run Perl on my PC. My problems start when I try to upload and run Perl on my web server. I will try again but I suspect I may be back for more help. There is one piece of advice I would like to get me going: where should any new modules which are not part of the core Perl be placed on my web site and where should my scripts go. I have had conflicting advise from other areas. Regards Brian Smart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Fowler Sent: 18 March 2003 12:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Starting Again On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Brian Smart wrote: could not be deleted because the directory held files that I could not view. You can delete all directories and files within a directory by logging into your apache box with ssh/telnet, or the command line ftp utility[1]. bash$ pwd # print out where you are to make /where/your/files/are # sure you're in the right dir bash$ rm -rf direcory_name # delete directories children Be *VERY* careful with this command. It won't ask you for confirmation (that's what the -f option means) and it will delete all your files very quickly. There's no undo and no undelete. I've killed laptops with this command in the past (sorry Leon) though not giving it enough respect. rm will delete hidden files when it works recursively as in the above example. rm * (which is what you've probably been using) will however _not_. You can list hidden files (those starting with a .) by typing bash$ ls -a # list _all_ files, inc. hidden in current dir bash$ ls -a foo # same for the directory foo Mark. [1] Start-Run cmd, hit OK, then type ftp www.servername.com -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: Learning regular expressions
Jonathan Peterson wrote: I assume that this was supposed to be: =~ m/\s*(?:y|(ok))/i I did. But this is hardly easier than 'eq'. Easier for the programmer? Of course not! Heh, when I say better I mean better for the user, and therefore a better bit of software. Programmers are just staff, but users are people :-) I agree that accepting y,Y, my mother is all well and good from a usability standpoint, but I believe that the original context of this thread was simply whether or not regexs are hard and how well they perform (or, conversely, how poorly they perform when they aren't well-formed). To not do so is broken, end of story. It baffles me that some people think in the year 2003 it's OK to have software that does this: I would agree with you on this, but it makes the assumption that we're discussing user-interactions. Funnily enough, my assumption was that 'y' came from some kind of flat-file in which it might be the result of some kind of form input (e.g. radio button) or log data, but I guess that's because I've spent too long working with ETL code and not people. ;) jon -- jon reades fulcrum analytics t: 0870.366.9338 m: 0797.698.7392 f: 0870.888.8880 lower ground floor 2 sheraton street london w1f 8bh
Capturing local machine's IP address in bash
Mongers, I've been trying to assemble a simple bash script that will set up some simple VPN tunnels for me when I need to connect to my company's Netscreen box. I've made it most of the way there, but I currently need one script for each possible address (e.g. sh /init.d/vpn/192.168.0.1.sh, sh /init.d/vpn/192.168.1.1.sh). A much easier way to do this would be to have the bash script get the local IP address by requesting it directly from the client machine. Unfortunately, ifconfig is a little hard to parse if you're not human and using bash, and I can't find any other functions to return just the IP address of, say, en0. Does anyone have suggestions for where/how I could obtain this information? TIA, jon -- jon reades fulcrum analytics t: 0870.366.9338 m: 0797.698.7392 f: 0870.888.8880 lower ground floor 2 sheraton street london w1f 8bh
Re: Capturing local machine's IP address in bash
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 05:12:35PM +, Jon Reades wrote: Mongers, Mongchop to you ;-) I've been trying to assemble a simple bash script that will set up some simple VPN tunnels for me when I need to connect to my company's Netscreen box. I've made it most of the way there, but I currently need one script for each possible address (e.g. sh /init.d/vpn/192.168.0.1.sh, sh /init.d/vpn/192.168.1.1.sh). A much easier way to do this would be to have the bash script get the local IP address by requesting it directly from the client machine. Unfortunately, ifconfig is a little hard to parse if you're not human and using bash, and I can't find any other functions to return just the IP address of, say, en0. /sbin/ifconfig|grep eth0 -2|grep inet|cut -f2 -d:|awk '{print $1}' would work, non? for eth0 anyway. that extends fairly trivially to something for each eth stanza... why not just use perl? :-p /joel
Re: Learning regular expressions
* Chris Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:41:18PM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hey, I've bought thirty-two O'Reilly books as it is ;-) I'll raise you: (gulp) forty-eight at home[*] including the 1988 (first?) edition of the X11 manuals. I blame Josette. You can't turn round without getting a discount: London PerlMounger - get a discount, Tyneside PerlMounger - get a discount, UKUUG member - get a discount, ... :-) /me sits in the corner looking smug -- *** *** *** Email address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please *** *** update your email address book. *** *** *** Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.org.uk/~gem/ jabber://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Capturing local machine's IP address in bash
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 17:12, Jon Reades wrote: A much easier way to do this would be to have the bash script get the local IP address by requesting it directly from the client machine. Unfortunately, ifconfig is a little hard to parse if you're not human and using bash, and I can't find any other functions to return just the IP address of, say, en0. Does anyone have suggestions for where/how I could obtain this information? Depending on your flavour of *nix, you might be able to use 'hostname -i'. Ian -- s@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@##@@#y^#@712($;='z')s(..)0$1gs$0s(.)([^01]) $1x$2xge($.='a')s$d4823604df80d7e51d7018b9(@_=$...$;)undef$.;do {s(.)(.*)(.)$..=$1.$3,$2e}while(length);s$.;$*=0;undef$.;$..=($_?$_[( $*+=$_)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$)foreach(map{hex}m(..)g);s.*$.$/s(\b.)\U$1goprint
Re: Capturing local machine's IP address in bash
* Jon Reades jreades at fulcrumanalytics.com [2003-03-18 12:15]: Does anyone have suggestions for where/how I could obtain this information? It's not bash, but it will work: perl -MSys::Hostname -MSocket -e 'print inet_ntoa inet_aton hostname' (darren) -- Whatever is done for love is beyond good and evil. -- Friedrich Neitzsche
c email libraries
I'm convinced that there *must* exists somewhere a C library to parse emails and another one that implements jwz's threading algorith, But I'll be bggered if I can find one. Does such a beast exist? -- it's a short link to a dead king
Re: Capturing local machine's IP address in bash
Joel Bernstein wrote: snip /sbin/ifconfig|grep eth0 -2|grep inet|cut -f2 -d:|awk '{print $1}' would work, non? for eth0 anyway. that extends fairly trivially to something for each eth stanza... Ah, piece of cake, why didn't I figure that out for myself. ;) I knew there was a reason I broke out any time I got serious about working in bash. Thank you for that fantastic piece of code! why not just use perl? :-p If the rest of my script is going to look like that then I think I'll see if I *can*. jon -- jon reades fulcrum analytics t: 0870.366.9338 m: 0797.698.7392 f: 0870.888.8880 lower ground floor 2 sheraton street london w1f 8bh
Re: c email libraries
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 05:48:12PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: I'm convinced that there *must* exists somewhere a C library to parse emails and another one that implements jwz's threading algorith, apt-get source mutt Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ What is justice? Avatars pick my brian. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: c email libraries
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 17:48, Simon Wistow wrote: I'm convinced that there *must* exists somewhere a C library to parse emails and another one that implements jwz's threading algorith, But I'll be bggered if I can find one. Does such a beast exist? you asked him? -- Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: c email libraries
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether: Does such a beast exist? Dunno, but Simon's Perl Email Project looks promising: http://search.cpan.org/author/SIMON/Email-Simple/ Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.http://www.scribot.com/ ... Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much
Re: c email libraries
On Tue Mar 18 17:48:12 2003, Simon Wistow wrote: I'm convinced that there *must* exists somewhere a C library to parse emails http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/ I'm not sure how stable it is. and another one that implements jwz's threading algorith, Dunno about that. I thought he provided the C code himself. -- Marty
Re: Learning regular expressions
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:41:18PM +, Phil Dobbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey, I've bought thirty-two O'Reilly books as it is ;-) I quick count in the area round my desk at home finds 120 O'Reilly books. There are others at work as well I think. Dave... -- Brian: Oh screw Maximilian! Sally: I do. Brian: So do I.
Re: Learning regular expressions
- Original Message - From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:51 PM On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:41:18PM +, Phil Dobbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hey, I've bought thirty-two O'Reilly books as it is ;-) I quick count in the area round my desk at home finds 120 O'Reilly books. There are others at work as well I think. pedanticHey, Dave, do you work at a Book Store? =-]/pedantic Sorry, I can't resist... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Luis Campos de Carvalho Computer Science Student OCP DBA Oracle Unix Sys Admin =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: [OT] PDA recommendation, and rants, and IMAP, and MTAconfiguration
On Monday, March 17, 2003 12:28 + Paul Mison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/03/2003 at 11:45 +, Andy Williams \(IMAP HILLWAY\) wrote: 1) Get at my email using my mobile phone as the modem. I guess Bluetooth is the best way of doing this. 2) Read Word and Excel docs that people keep sending me g!! 3) Read PDF docs 4) Usual calendar type stuff. 5) Games for those boring train journeys :) Palm Tungsten Ts look nice (ie I don't have one), and do the Bluetooth thing. Down to £ 300, and come with a bundle of Documents to Go, I believe. So do some of the Sony handhelds, but they don't come with Bluetooth until they get very expensive indeed. But be aware that their 68k / old PalmOS emujlation is a bit crap, so older applications may not work properly despite it being meant to be sdrawkcab combatible. Personally, I'd say don't bother using a PDA for email, the interface is just crap. If you must, then use Multimail - which I *think* Palm have bought and bundle with new devices, which will send/receive via the hotsync cradle and your desktop machine*. If you're happy using black and white and infrared, you can do all this with pretty much any low end Palm OS machine, but make sure Documents to Go gets bundled. Reading MS documents is not really practical for the same reason that mail isn't practical - the interface simply isn't designed for that sort of document. At an absolute minimum you'll lose ALL the formatting plus any dynamic content such as automagically calculated ToCs. Forget about editing them as the software doesn't support that. Use the right device for the task - that is, a PDA for your calendar, address book, reading books etc. Use a laptop for email and for reading weird proprietary formats. * - on the subject of unusual mail clients, I'm trying out Mulberry. It has many interesting quirks and missing features. Like the ability to sort my mailbox without having to dick around with mouse and menus, and it doesn't seem to like syncing to an IMAP server when there are deleted messages in my inbox. It sees the messages on the server, but just plain refuses to download them. This is irritating. And it does *not* do disconnected IMAP properly like what Multimail and mailsync do. With Mulberry, you can't apply changes to both versions of your mailbox nad have it just Do The Right Thing. It seems to implement disconnected operations by recording what you do and playing it back later. Really Fucking Stupid. Changes are keyed to msgid, so if you ever have two messages in your mailbox with the same msgid (which is legal) I know that it will break horribly. Bah. Grrr. Thankfully, I just finished recompiling the universe on my ibook - needed to get fink unstable, then upgrade about 300 packages so that that worked, and only then could I install the one package - mailsync - that I wanted. Then hopefully I'll be able to wrap real IMAP around mutt. Just one more thing to do, I need to figger out MTA-fu so that I can transparently send mail but have it queued locally until I get a network connection. It works for immediate sending, but deferred sending just drops messages on the floor. Which is irritating. -- David Cantrell
Re: [OT] PDA recommendation, and rants, and IMAP, and MTA configuration
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 08:41:20AM +, David Cantrell wrote: Personally, I'd say don't bother using a PDA for email, the interface is just crap. If you must, then use Multimail - which I *think* Palm have bought and bundle with new devices, which will send/receive via the hotsync cradle and your desktop machine*. Though be aware that Multimail's IMAP client is not standards-compliant; it falls over whenever it meets a fairly common server extension. R
Re: [OT] PDA recommendation.
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:45:53AM -, Andy Williams (IMAP HILLWAY) wrote: Hi, I've decided to enter the 21st century and buy a PDA. Does anyone have any recommendations? LinuxDevices is reporting that the Linux PDA Sharp Zaurus 5500 is going for US$200 (!) presumably thanks to Sharp releasing the 5600 yesterday. http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4241298322.html - cheap 5500 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3449791061.html - about 5600 Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ If I pass the buck, will I get the help, then I go to the occean and call on them. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: Starting Again
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:59 + Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bash$ ls -a # list _all_ files, inc. hidden in current dir bash$ ls -a foo # same for the directory foo ls -A is useful too - it does the same as -a but doesn't list . or ... That last one is .. followed by a full stop. Curse this Unix stuff. -- David Cantrell
Re: Learning regular expressions
On Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:29 + Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You'd be better off with the 2nd Edition. O'Reilly: 0-596-00289-0 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/ Shouldn't someone be reviewing this for the site? *looks down at the ground and shuffles feet nervously* You should have kept quiet, I wasn't going to be naming any names, what with me being the next person on the naughty list :-) If you (and that's you plural, for anyone else who owes a book review) don't have the time to do a thorough review of a book that you've got, then a shorter review of your first impressions, or of a few selected chapters, would still be useful. -- David Cantrell
Making running X listen on TCP
Is it possible to make X listen for network connections, without restarting it? Or maybe run another one that doesn't interfere graphically with the current one? (me - no X-pert) I have a big X session I'd rather not lose, and Phoenix still doesn't have a Save Session feature :-/ But I'd like to test another headless machine's X clients. Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ What is the flavor du jour? It is silence, silence, silence. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: [OT] PDA recommendation.
Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:45:53AM -, Andy Williams (IMAP HILLWAY) wrote: Hi, I've decided to enter the 21st century and buy a PDA. Does anyone have any recommendations? LinuxDevices is reporting that the Linux PDA Sharp Zaurus 5500 is going for US$200 (!) presumably thanks to Sharp releasing the 5600 yesterday. http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4241298322.html - cheap 5500 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3449791061.html - about 5600 Finally! Don't suppose anyone bought a CL-700 yet? Am very tempted ...
Re: Starting Again
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Paul == Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul ... is where you keep warez, pr0n and rootkits. No, I use . for that. Or maybe .\n :) You keep rootkits, Randal? I thought you weren't supposed to be doing that :) -- Chris Devers[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] PDA recommendation, and rants, and IMAP, and MTAconfiguration
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 08:41, David Cantrell wrote: y, I'd say don't bother using a PDA for email, the interface is just crap. If you must, then use Multimail - which I *think* Palm have bought and bundle with new devices, which will send/receive via the hotsync cradle and your desktop machine*. What's wrong with Eudora? IMAP seems to work (although I'm using the filters to ignore stuff for download). I'm sure there's a sync option too. -- Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting Again
Paul == Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul ... is where you keep warez, pr0n and rootkits. No, I use . for that. Or maybe .\n :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!