Re: Dim sum today
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 01:54:22PM +0100, Ben wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:13:11PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 11:52:47AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: Grubstreet has no entry for New World :-( It does now. http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?New_World,_W1D_5PA I'd like to contribute a few pages. Can someone give me a headsup on how to make them so that they fit into 'House Style'? This helpful? http://grault.net/cgi-bin/grubstreet.pl?search=Category+Wiki+Info Juliet
Re: [OT] map weirdness
Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 10:42:55AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
sub doit {
I like this method too, esp if combined with ?:
local $_ = $_;
return if $something;
return if $other_thing;
return 1;
}
Just for clarify, return requires a EXPR, it doesn't return $_ by
default.
return EXPR
return Returns from a subroutine, eval, or do FILE with the value
given in EXPR. Evaluation of EXPR may be in list, scalar, or
void context, depending on how the return value will be used,
and the context may vary from one execution to the next (see
wantarray). If no EXPR is given, returns an empty list in
list context, the undefined value in scalar context, and (of
course) nothing at all in a void context.
Yup. I tend to abuse the return alone means undef quite a lot though,
as you can see.
-Dom
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. My 3 second search didn't bring up any versions of Twelfth Night (the RT correspondent's subject of complaint) which didn't keep the original name. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] You cannot pick your nose in Perl without mallocking random chunks -- Tom Christiansen
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:41, Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. My 3 second search didn't bring up any versions of Twelfth Night (the RT correspondent's subject of complaint) which didn't keep the original name. Possibly they were watching William Shakespeare's Romeo + Juliet [1] staring Leonardo DeCaprio and Claire Danes. I seem to recall that it was on the other day and does a reasonable job [2] of keeping the text while updating the setting. Simon. [1] http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117509 [2] FSVO, YMMV, IANAMC etc :)
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. I think you read a different version of Romeo and Juliet than I did at school. What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. Jasper -- My carrot-weapon was soft and ineffectual
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:51, Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. Romeo Juliet - West Side Story
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
Jasper McCrea wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. I think you read a different version of Romeo and Juliet than I did at school. What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Shakespeare,+William to answer my own question. There's even an episode of Dilbert in there. If there was no copyright expiration date his descendants would be pretty wealthy. Jasper -- I think I tore my sack
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:59:44PM +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote: http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Shakespeare,+William If there was no copyright expiration date his descendants would be pretty wealthy. If he had any still alive. And if none of them had sold the rights to Disney. R
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:51:22PM +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2003 09:32:37 -0700, Dave Cross wrote: p.s. There's a great letter in this week's Radio Times. Someone is complaining about a recent TV version of some Shakespeare play. Their complaint is that it was performed in modern dress but the language hadn't been updated so they couldn't understand it! Maybe they should watch Forbidden Planet, or one of the many variations on Romeo and Juliet that have been made. I think you read a different version of Romeo and Juliet than I did at school. What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. There's also 'From A Jack To A King' by the same author, with the same music and cheesy modified Shakespearean dialogue: 'Beware the ids that march', I ask you. I saw a show called 'Fall For Me' at the Fringe -- it's A Midsummer Night's Dream but with hippies and a rock band and set in 1967. I suspect there have been plenty of similar shows. (Ooh -- I heart Google loads: here's a review of it: http://www.britishtheatreguide.info/otherresources/fringe/fringe98-05.htm) Chris.
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Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
Chris Andrews wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:51:22PM +0100, Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. There's also 'From A Jack To A King' by the same author, with the same music and cheesy modified Shakespearean dialogue: 'Beware the ids that march', I ask you. Tom Stoppard's _Fifteen Minute Hamlet_ comes to mind, as well as does _Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_. I haven't seen the filmed version of the former, but the staging of it I saw was great. It's a pity Stoppard isn't more consistant in his writings, there's a world between _Brazil_ or his best plays such as _The Real Inspector Hound_ and say, _Shakespeare in Love_ or _The Russia House_. http://www.imdb.com/Name?Stoppard,+Tom -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Engineer, Expwayhttp://expway.fr/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488
courses by Perl gurus in Ze City of Luv
As a special offer, people who will attend one of these courses will have a free pass to YAPC::EU (http://yapc.mongueurs.net). We need 6 people per course (out of a maximum of 8 ) that commit before 15 June. This is essential to us because failure to do so will compromise the coming of these gurus to YAPC::EU that is conditionnally sponsored by pythagore-fd ... except if TPF is kind enough to help us. Please, note: 1/ the 2 courses can be taken in succession so that one first learn Perl, then learn how to do CGI in Perl. ...Or how to become a Perl CGI wizard from scratch in six days. 2/ the last day of MJD's course overlap the first day of YAPC. BooK will send a mail like this one to people already registered to YAPC. STo these guys, sorry for the duplicate. = Beginning Perl http://www.pythagore-fd.fr/2/1/LP001.jsp Length: 3 days Dates: 16, 17, 18 of july Price: 1700 Euros Reference: LP001 Audience: Perl developpers. Speaker:Dan Sugalski (http://www.sidhe.org/~dan/) Subjects: * Basic syntax * Building Perl data type * Scoping * Control flow * Basic file IO * Basic string manipulation * Basic regular expression * Using externarl program * Subroutines * Using modules * An overview of CPAN, perl's public module repository = CGI Programming in Perl http://www.pythagore-fd.fr/2/1/LP002.jsp Length: 3 days Dates: 21, 22, 23 of july Price: 1900 Euros Reference: LP002 Audience: Perl developpers. Speaker:Mark Jason Dominus (http://perl.plover.com/yak/aboutme.html) Prerequisites: Students should be familiar with the basic use of Perl. Subjects: CGI application development * Introduction to HTTP and CGI + Browsers and Servers + HTTP Session + Static Content; Dynamic Content + What is CGI? + CGI Misconceptions + Why CGI Programming can be difficult + HTTP + Fake HTTP Client; HTTP Response; HTTP Response Header + Fake HTTP Server; Fake HTTP Server Output; HTTP Request + Back to CGI + shellenv CGI Program + Content-Type; Missing Content-Type + Perl CGI Program + Where do the Errors Go? + Effect of Syntax and Other Errors; Redirecting STDERR + CGI::Carp; fatalsToBrowser' + Buffering Surprises + Lab * Form Processing + Forms + Form Widgets: text boxes; password boxes; hidden widgets; radio buttons; checkboxes; menus; submit buttons; textareas; other widgets + Lab 2a + Form Submission and Encoding; example + GET vs. POST + Decoding form input + CGI.pm; param() + Lab 2b + Debugging Techniques + CGI.pm convenience functions; persistent form Data; CGI-generated HTML + Disabling persistent data + Lab 2c * More Advanced CGI Applications + Maintaining State + Multipage Applications + PATH_INFO + Lab 3 * CGI System Issues Operating System Issues + Hazards of local files; distributed filesystem difficulties + Concurrency problems: forgotten transactions; lost databases; interleaved writes; summary + How to fix concurrence problems: file locking flock; typical uses; recipes; non-blocking locks; timeout locks + Lab 4 * DBI and database access + Relational Databases and SQL + Communicating with Databases + The DBI module; detailed example + hazards of interpolation + Concurrent access + Transactions; AutoCommit + RaiseError + Other Data Retrieval Functions + Documentation + Lab 5 * Security Issues + CGI is the World's Biggest Security Hole + Disaster Example: finger gateway + Tainting; perl -T; example; `Insecure Dependency' + Untainting Dirty Data + Operations that produce tainted data; unsafe operations; safe operations + The Unix Shell + The Two Stances; Why you must be strict; Open and closed failure modes + Do Not Trust the Browser + Lab 6 * Miscellaneous Techniques + Network programming + email + Web client programming and LWP + cookies + Long-running background jobs + caching + Dynamic image generation + Image maps + Drawing graphs + LDAP + Others topics suggested by the students -- stef
Re: weird eval
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 16:41, Ben wrote: I assume a naughty XS module segfaulting will do for it - but are there any others? SIGKILL (Usually 9).
Re: weird eval
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 05:41:49PM +0100, Ben wrote:
What circumstances are there under which eval {}; will not trap a program exit ?
eval { exit };
--
Nick
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. I've come in a bit late here so forgive me if this has been mentioned already but... Peter Greenaway's Prospero's books seams to fit into this catergory. A pretty cool score to go with the fine film too! -- James 'Hey, you have the same problem with your trousers as I do!' V. Stanshall =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= James Campbell Research Bioinformatician Proteome Sciences Institute of Psychiatry South Wing Lab PO BOX P045 16 De Crespigny Park London SE5 8AF Tel:+44-(0)20-7848-5111 Fax:+44-(0)20-7848-5114 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web 1: www.proteome.co.uk Web 2: www.proteinworks.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: courses by Perl gurus in Ze City of Luv
En réponse à Stéphane Payrard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a special offer, people who will attend one of these courses will have a free pass to YAPC::EU (http://yapc.mongueurs.net). We need 6 people per course (out of a maximum of 8 ) that commit before 15 June. This is essential to us because failure to do so will compromise the coming of these gurus to YAPC::EU that is conditionnally sponsored by pythagore-fd ... except if TPF is kind enough to help us. Mmm, let me restate this. Dan and MJD *will* come to the conference. Their travel and lodging will be sponsored either by this company (if they can manage to find a minimum of 6 students per course), or by ourselves. I'm sure that our budget will allow for it, given our other sponsors (especially if we manage to have the catering sponsored). Now, don't start me on how perfect our communication process is... ;-) -- Philippe BRUHAT - BooK YAPC::Europe à Paris, 23-25 Juillet 2003 http://yapc.mongueurs.net/
Re: weird eval
Nick Cleaton wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 05:41:49PM +0100, Ben wrote:
What circumstances are there under which eval {}; will not trap a program exit ?
eval { exit };
Similarly:
eval { exec perl = -e1 };
Belden
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tim O'Reilly in London
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:12 -0700 Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim O'Reilly will be speaking at The City University, London on June 23rd. The title of the talk is The Open Source Paradigm Shift: LAMP as the 'Intel inside' of the next generation of computer applications. So is that meant to be a good thing or a bad thing? -- David Cantrell Beekeeping is like being a lion tamer, but with smaller lions, and more of them. -- arp
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tim O'Reilly in London
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 05:56:17PM +0100, David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:12 -0700 Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim O'Reilly will be speaking at The City University, London on June 23rd. The title of the talk is The Open Source Paradigm Shift: LAMP as the 'Intel inside' of the next generation of computer applications. So is that meant to be a good thing or a bad thing? You'll need to come along to find out. Dave... -- It was long ago and it was far away And it was so much better that it is today
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Jasper McCrea wrote: Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. http://uk.imdb.com/Name?Shakespeare,+William to answer my own question. Just to add a couple that I don't see on that list, both The Lion King and Strange Brew are basically just the Hamlet story, redone as Disney cartoon and Wayne's World / Bill Ted style buddy comedy, respectively. Heh -- citing Shakespeare as a source is one thing, but -- 115. Wars of the Roses, The (1989) TV Series (writer) -- goes a bit far, I think :) If there was no copyright expiration date his descendants would be pretty wealthy. Well, yes. But then, he would have made quite a few of his predecessors and their ancestors wealthy as well. Really it's just hypothetical passing of money from one generation to the next. Or something like that. :) -- Chris Devers[EMAIL PROTECTED] Q: What is the difference between a duck? A: One leg is both the same.
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Chris Devers wrote:
Heh -- citing Shakespeare as a source is one thing, but --
115. Wars of the Roses, The (1989) TV Series (writer)
-- goes a bit far, I think :)
I didn't see him listed for Shakespeare in Love either, though quite a few
lines in it are obviously his.
Random idea 4023: ipdb
Internet Perl Database, featuring all perl code and coders. You can
then play seven degrees of Leon Brocard.
I'm going to shut up now before someone actually does this.
Mark.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl -T
use strict;
use warnings;
print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://twoshortplanks.com/};
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:03:52AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: Random idea 4023: ipdb Internet Perl Database, featuring all perl code and coders. You can then play seven degrees of Leon Brocard. In the same vein at least, http://www.perlcabal.com/real.html Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ What is how big is the sky? Telephone sex. -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/
Re: weird eval
Belden == Belden Lyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Belden Nick Cleaton wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 05:41:49PM +0100, Ben wrote:
What circumstances are there under which eval {}; will not trap a program exit ?
eval { exit };
Belden eval { exec perl = -e1 };
eval { syscall(1) }; # presuming SYS_exit is 1
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Net::Whois::RIPE
I have a list of hosts, that I need to get whois information on, so I turned to my trust perl, and tried to get Net::Whois::RIPE working. However, I can get the whois header information, and I can get results, but it seems to not work for all hosts. For example I can put a host of whois.joker.com and get info from joker, but not info on stuff not from joker. What I am ideally looking for is something in perl that provides me with the sme funcionality as the normal system command whois, as a bare minimum. If I can do something like Use:Clever::Module $hostiwant; $fieldiwant; $ExpirtyDate = Clever::Module-$hostiwant($fieldiwant); If anyones done anything like this, or even got Net::Whois::RIPE working for .com .net .edu .co.uk etc, then please let me know. Thanks. -- Ian Watkinson Systems Administrator Technology Group EHSBrann t: 0207 017 1000 f: 0202 017 1001 dd: 0207 017 1212 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: weird eval
Ben wrote:
What circumstances are there under which eval {}; will not trap a program exit ?
Changing the subject slightly, you can stop an eval from trapping a
program exit by doing something with $@ (like, by doing an eval) within
a DESTROY. Or using a module that does that.
a) exception happens
b) Perl cleans up stuff in that scope, runs the destroy, which puts its
own stuff in $@
c) outer eval looks at $@, and presumes everything was fine.
d) consequences filter through to wherever.
e) programmers look confused.
Do that trick with DESTROY and eval in a CPAN module, and win the
Apache::Session Landmine Antipattern Prize![1]
ti
[1] Don't.
Re: Someone must have solved this one ?
On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 19:44, Nik Butler wrote: Heres a problem for the perl ancients among you. One of our customers ( I say our since like the Borg, ive joined a collective ) requires a regular deduplication of list information ( mostly CSV ) against a existing database (SQL Server 2k) . now im fairly sure that this is exactly what Perl was designed for ... however when searching for tools and advice on utilising those tools I do tend to come up a little non plussed. The trouble is that people are not very consistent at writing their addresses, neither do they spell terribly exactly. You can use one or more of the fuzzy match algorithms, some clever sorting, together with agrep and friends, but it will only go so far. At the end of the day there is no substitute for human intervention and eyeball pattern matching... Unfortunately, to do this properly requires fuzzy logic and some intelligent human interaction. Basically, perl is your friend for doing the obvious, simple stuff - ie the addresses that are identical. Also for generating the 'possibles' you will need to scan. The snail mailing list specialists keep this sort of software close to their chests because it is that which gives them the edge, viz: clean (deduped) lists, that pays top dollar. Best of luck... Dirk -- Please Note: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State.
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
jwhois? On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 07:45, Ian Watkinson wrote: I have a list of hosts, that I need to get whois information on, so I turned to my trust perl, and tried to get Net::Whois::RIPE working. However, I can get the whois header information, and I can get results, but it seems to not work for all hosts. For example I can put a host of whois.joker.com and get info from joker, but not info on stuff not from joker. What I am ideally looking for is something in perl that provides me with the sme funcionality as the normal system command whois, as a bare minimum. If I can do something like Use:Clever::Module $hostiwant; $fieldiwant; $ExpirtyDate = Clever::Module-$hostiwant($fieldiwant); If anyones done anything like this, or even got Net::Whois::RIPE working for .com .net .edu .co.uk etc, then please let me know. Thanks. -- Please Note: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State.
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 07:45:27AM +0100, Ian Watkinson wrote: I have a list of hosts, that I need to get whois information on, so I turned to my trust perl, and tried to get Net::Whois::RIPE working. However, I can get the whois header information, and I can get results, but it seems to not work for all hosts. Net::Whois::RIPE is specifically for the RIPE whois database, which contains IP address, AS number allocations and the like, rather than the usual domains. It actually works really well, which should be expected given that both it and the database were written by RIPE... What I am ideally looking for is something in perl that provides me with the sme funcionality as the normal system command whois, as a bare minimum. You'll be lucky. There's a whole bunch of different 'standards' for the output of whois servers, but there doesn't seem to be a module that understands them all. When I've done this, I've kept a list of relevant whois servers and strings to match on (I've only been interested in available/ not-available), then use Net::Whois::Raw to actually get the data, and parse the output by hand. There's a couple of modules which know about gTLDs and a handful of ccTLDs, and Net::Domain::ExpireDate seems to know about quite a few for the expiry date only, but a comprehensive module will be a maintenance nightmare. Chris.
Re: Someone must have solved this one ?
Remind me to read my posts before pressing the send button just one more time would you? On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 09:05, Dirk Koopman wrote: On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 19:44, Nik Butler wrote: Heres a problem for the perl ancients among you. One of our customers ( I say our since like the Borg, ive joined a collective ) requires a regular deduplication of list information ( mostly CSV ) against a existing database (SQL Server 2k) . now im fairly sure that this is exactly what Perl was designed for ... however when searching for tools and advice on utilising those tools I do tend to come up a little non plussed. The trouble is that people are not very consistent at writing their addresses, neither do they spell terribly exactly. You can use one or more of the fuzzy match algorithms, some clever sorting, together with agrep and friends, but it will only go so far. At the end of the day there is no substitute for human intervention and eyeball pattern matching... Unfortunately, to do this properly requires fuzzy logic and some intelligent human interaction. Basically, perl is your friend for doing the obvious, simple stuff - ie the addresses that are identical. Also for generating the 'possibles' you will need to scan. The snail mailing list specialists keep this sort of software close to their chests because it is that which gives them the edge, viz: clean (deduped) lists, that pays top dollar. Best of luck... Dirk -- Please Note: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Consumer Is Not Directly Observing This Product, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State.
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Chris Andrews wrote: You'll be lucky. There's a whole bunch of different 'standards' for the output of whois servers, but there doesn't seem to be a module that understands them all. I've had a lot of success with Net::XWhois which seems to address this issue. Jason Clifford -- UKFSN.ORG Finance Free Software while you surf the 'net http://www.ukfsn.org/ Sign up now
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Tim O'Reilly in London
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote: Sh. The 'P' is PHP. Or python. Or Ruby. :-0 Gabor
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Chris Andrews wrote: snip There's a couple of modules which know about gTLDs and a handful of ccTLDs, and Net::Domain::ExpireDate seems to know about quite a few for the expiry date only, but a comprehensive module will be a maintenance nightmare. Chris. Very much so. I have to do minimal parsing of whois information as part of my work for OpenSRS, and even for that, I run into maintainance problems. The biggest cause is that many of the registrars alter their whois formats on a semi-regular basis, presumably to avoid easy parsing of em for transfer information. Mark.
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Ian Watkinson wrote: What I am ideally looking for is something in perl that provides me with the sme funcionality as the normal system command whois, as a bare minimum. Net::ParseWhois exists and I use it for commercial stuff. The maintainer doesn't really maintain it, and as the people who run whois databases change formats arbitrarily, it needs real users to keep it up-to-date. However, join the mailing list, and various people post updates and minor changes. Primarily it exists for com/net/org, though personally I'm just updating my version to extract more data for .uk domains. My effort to make it work on non-recursive whois systems could probably do with being redone by someone who really understands objects, but what's there works, and makes it fairly simple to add new TLDs and new whois formats. There was some plottings for me and someone else to officially take over maintainance, but I've been lacking the tuits to actually sort that. the hatter
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 10:26:54AM +0100, Lusercop wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 10:16:19AM +0100, Mark Morgan wrote: Very much so. I have to do minimal parsing of whois information as part of my work for OpenSRS, and even for that, I run into maintainance problems. The biggest cause is that many of the registrars alter their whois formats on a semi-regular basis, presumably to avoid easy parsing of em for transfer information. Can't you just ask OpenSRS for the information? that's what we do. If you're transferring from another registrar, you have to parse *their* information in order to feed it to OpenSRS. Chris.
Re: The answer to the map and disc problem
On 28 May 2003 14:56:01 +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 14:51, Jasper McCrea wrote: What are the various shakespeare - strange genre adaptations? I can only think of Forbidden Planet offhand. Romeo Juliet - West Side Story That's what I was thinking of, but it kept coming out as Grease, which I knew wasn't right. My excuse is that I know nothing about West Side Story, except that it's a version of Romeo and Juliet. Yeah, that'll cover it. -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who needs to profile, when Sam can calculate runtime profiles without even glancing at the code? Just tell Sam an anecdote about your program, and he'll give you a thumbs up or down. -- Len Budney
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 07:45:27AM +0100, Ian Watkinson wrote: $ExpirtyDate = Clever::Module-$hostiwant($fieldiwant); The Gandi guys have a reasonable one: http://open.gandi.net/download/WhoisExtract/ I wrote a more complete parser but as others have pointed out it's a real maintainence headache, so it's allways out of date. I don't think I'm allowed to release it anyway because it probably belongs to my employer. Have the CS people invented AI yet?
Re: Net::Whois::RIPE
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Lusercop wrote: Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 10:26:54 +0100 From: Lusercop `the.lusercop'@lusercop.net Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Net::Whois::RIPE On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 10:16:19AM +0100, Mark Morgan wrote: Very much so. I have to do minimal parsing of whois information as part of my work for OpenSRS, and even for that, I run into maintainance problems. The biggest cause is that many of the registrars alter their whois formats on a semi-regular basis, presumably to avoid easy parsing of em for transfer information. Can't you just ask OpenSRS for the information? that's what we do. Because OpenSRS is my employer. :) The minimal parsing that we need to do is just to get the admin email address for transfers, but even doing that changes on an all-to-regular basis for many registrars. Take care, Mark.
