Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross

From: Damon Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 8/6/03 2:50:21 PM

> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 16:38, Dave Cross wrote:
>> I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do 
>> actually like to think that Perl discussion is encouraged
>> here.
>
> Didn't Gabor Szabo mention at YAPC::Europe that even with 
> London.pm's average of 800 list messages a month, 
> Israel.pm's list average of 200 still had more posts about
> Perl?  (I hope I'm not making up these numbers...)

Oh that sounds quite likely. I'm just contrasting us with ny.pm
where Perl discussion is explicitly barred from the mailing list.

Dave...

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 04:29:42PM +0100, Paul Golds wrote:
> 
> Naturally I skip over such posts anyway, nasty little things. 

Hopping around, eating carrots.

Ben



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, James Campbell wrote:
> 
> > Humble appologies
> 
> Why's it OT, is he doing it in perl ?
> 

i'm not sure that Perl was ever considered OT, its just that it made
up a smaller percentage than one might expect for a Perl related
list.

G.

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:38:09AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote:
> I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like
> to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here.

I feel that "like to think" is the important phrase in that sentence.

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Jon Reades
the hatter wrote:

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Wechsler wrote:

darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*>I assume you mean Leon[0][1].
Actually, no, but now that you mention it:)
Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array?
 
Depends what you're trying to store in him, I'd guess.  Or maybe it's a
footnote about his first element.
 
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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread James Campbell
>> > Humble appologies
>> 
>> Why's it OT, is he doing it in perl ?
>> 
>
>i'm not sure that Perl was ever considered OT, its just that it made
>up a smaller percentage than one might expect for a Perl related
>list.


To clarify my first e-mail; this VR experiment has absolutely nothing to do
with Perl. I shared it with you guys/girls purely because it sounds like fun.

I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT]
business.

Cheers
James



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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Wechsler wrote:

> Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
>
> > darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
> > *>I assume you mean Leon[0][1].
> >
> > Actually, no, but now that you mention it:)
>
> Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array?

Depends what you're trying to store in him, I'd guess.  Or maybe it's a
footnote about his first element.


the hatter




Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will
> be attending tomorrow.
> 

Yes, these sudden arrivals should be ignored, of course those of us 
who have previously hand our twins turn up to non-heretical/heretical
meetings have demonstrated our twin status conclusively in the past.

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:38:09AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote:
> I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like
> to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here.

What? Are you mad or something? Next thing you'll be trying to suggest
that we should actually talk about this "perl" stuff (Whatever that might
be) at the social meeting tomorrow night, rather than trying to use
false moustaches/beards/dark glasses to get multiple free birthday beers out
of Mark.

Nicholas Clark



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Golds
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 04:21:02PM +0200, Damon Davison wrote:
> The nice people in the white coats explained it to me thusly:
> 
> Once upon a time, this list was about Perl.  Now it is mostly about anything 
> else (social, generally).  Since then the list topic has changed to "anything 
> but perl", so if you're posting about Perl, it's OT.

My brane has managed to adapt to this by reading any [OT] on this
list as 'On Topic', it actually seems to work quite well here. 

Naturally I skip over such posts anyway, nasty little things. 

Paul



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:47:55PM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote:
> > What? Are you mad or something? Next thing you'll be trying to suggest
> > that we should actually talk about this "perl" stuff (Whatever that might
> > be) at the social meeting tomorrow night, rather than trying to use
> > false moustaches/beards/dark glasses to get multiple free birthday beers out
> > of Mark.
> 
> Hmm, fake moustache you say? Maybe I shouldn't have grown this 
> PornoTache(tm) for the occasion then

No, it will come in very handy. Just bring a razor and shave it off after
your first beer, then pretend to be someone else.

I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will
be attending tomorrow.

Nicholas Clark



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Alex McLintock
At 12:56 06/08/03, you wrote:
I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT]
business.


Use [OT] when the subject is definitely off topic - but still of interest 
to many people on the list and there is no better way to tell them.

I think the idea behind using [OT] to describe any posting about perl is a joke
which some people didn't get. Oh well.
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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*>
*>I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will
*>be attending tomorrow.

Or how many of you will be revealed to be quite fetching in drag! :) 

e.



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Damon Davison
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 13:56, James Campbell wrote:
> I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT]
> business.

The nice people in the white coats explained it to me thusly:

Once upon a time, this list was about Perl.  Now it is mostly about anything 
else (social, generally).  Since then the list topic has changed to "anything 
but perl", so if you're posting about Perl, it's OT.

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross

From: Damon Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 8/6/03 2:21:02 PM

> On Wednesday 06 August 2003 13:56, James Campbell wrote:
>> I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused 
>> about this [OT] business.
>
> The nice people in the white coats explained it to me 
> thusly:
>
> Once upon a time, this list was about Perl.  Now it is 
> mostly about anything else (social, generally).  Since 
> then the list topic has changed to "anything but perl", so
> if you're posting about Perl, it's OT.

I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like
to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here.

Dave...

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Wechsler
Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:

darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*>I assume you mean Leon[0][1].
Actually, no, but now that you mention it:)
Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array?

	Wechsler

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> From: Damon Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 8/6/03 2:50:21 PM
> 
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 16:38, Dave Cross wrote:
> >> I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do 
> >> actually like to think that Perl discussion is encouraged
> >> here.
> >
> > Didn't Gabor Szabo mention at YAPC::Europe that even with 
> > London.pm's average of 800 list messages a month, 
> > Israel.pm's list average of 200 still had more posts about
> > Perl?  (I hope I'm not making up these numbers...)
> 
> Oh that sounds quite likely. I'm just contrasting us with ny.pm
> where Perl discussion is explicitly barred from the mailing list.
> 

Hopefully DHA can pop up and clarify this. I believe that discussion
about Perl is ok as long as it also involveds 
beer/whisky/whiskey/bourbon. The only thing I can recall seeing
actively discouraged was whining about people discussing 
beer/whisky/whiskey/bourbon. I really should resubscribe soon.

Greg


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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-09 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*>* Elaine -HFB- Ashton  [2003-08-06 11:30]:
*>> 
*>> Or how many of you will be revealed to be quite fetching in drag! :) 
*>
*>I assume you mean Leon[0][1].

Actually, no, but now that you mention it:)

e.



Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-07 Thread muppet

Greg McCarroll said:
> Hopefully DHA can pop up and clarify this. I believe that discussion
> about Perl is ok as long as it also involveds
> beer/whisky/whiskey/bourbon.

oh, so it's okay to mention that i was writing perl (well, xs, actually) while
watching the tv news about the fire that burned down a jim beam warehouse? 
man, i keep getting london.pm confused with (void).

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Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread James Campbell
Humble appologies

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will
> be attending tomorrow.

Me and my clone army will be there.


the hatter




Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread darren chamberlain
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> *>
> *>I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will
> *>be attending tomorrow.
> 
> Or how many of you will be revealed to be quite fetching in drag! :) 

I assume you mean Leon[0][1].

(darren)

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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread Damon Davison
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 16:38, Dave Cross wrote:
> I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like
> to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here.
>
> Dave...

Didn't Gabor Szabo mention at YAPC::Europe that even with London.pm's average 
of 800 list messages a month, Israel.pm's list average of 200 still had more 
posts about Perl?  (I hope I'm not making up these numbers...)

Cheers, damon
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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread James Campbell
>>> I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused 
>>> about this [OT] business.
>>
>> The nice people in the white coats explained it to me 
>> thusly:
>>
>> Once upon a time, this list was about Perl.  Now it is 
>> mostly about anything else (social, generally).  Since 
>> then the list topic has changed to "anything but perl", so
>> if you're posting about Perl, it's OT.
>
>I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like
>to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here.


That's cleared that up then

Cheers
James
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Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread Nigel Rantor
What? Are you mad or something? Next thing you'll be trying to suggest
that we should actually talk about this "perl" stuff (Whatever that might
be) at the social meeting tomorrow night, rather than trying to use
false moustaches/beards/dark glasses to get multiple free birthday beers out
of Mark.
Hmm, fake moustache you say? Maybe I shouldn't have grown this 
PornoTache(tm) for the occasion then





Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, James Campbell wrote:
>
> I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT]
> business.
>

I don't think there is anything to be confused about - everything is ('on'
.. 'off' ) topic

/J\




Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, James Campbell wrote:

> Humble appologies

Why's it OT, is he doing it in perl ?


the hatter




Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-05 Thread muppet

James Campbell said:
> Humble appologies

it was my understanding that this list reserved the marker [OT] for
perl-related content.

i'd be all about a VR experiment, but i'm not near.

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