[LUTE] Re: No Humour please, were (at the) BRITish (awards)

2007-04-09 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 09.04.2007 01:09:30 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

 I looked in vain for Mark's Citternists of Penzance band nomination  for 
 their album Arf, arf. Hopefully next time.
 Could't help it.
 RT
 

Hi Roman,

As you will probably noticed, I did not write the article, bit I do feel for 
you if the reality out there is too hard for you.

But if we were to play some sort of cross-over as you seem to infer ( a genre 
that does not interest me at all) then we would have a big chance. Here are 
some of the nominees that sting is up against for the Brit Classic Album of the 
year...
 
All Angels All Angels ( a girl group who sing pop songs and some classical 
evergreens)
Katherine Jenkins Serenade ( a nice looking gal singing pop classics)
Libera Angel Voices  (Easy listening choir singing classical favorites with 
nice new lyrics, to keep your nan warm by the fire)
The Fron Male Voice Choir Voices from the Valley ( A welsh choir singing 
unchained melody etc)

Sadly we use HIP instruments and techniques, very little chance of ever being 
nominated, But even if that happened, maybe the same will happen to us as 
Joachim Held. He won a Echo here in Germany award for his latest lute CD and on 
the television presentation of the award you didn't see or hear about him, 
instead someone fumbled around on a single strung archlute

All the best
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[LUTE] Re: No Humour please, were (at the) BRITish (awards)

2007-04-09 Thread Phalese
In einer eMail vom 09.04.2007 01:18:15 Westeurop=E4ische Normalzeit schreibt 
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 mark ... what are you on about? 

Hi,

I didn't write the article, just wanted to show that the world outside may 
not see the Sting thing so positively as some here may view it.


That's alll folks.
Mark
   

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[LUTE] Re: No Humour please, were (at the) BRITish (awards)

2007-04-09 Thread Roman Turovsky
 I looked in vain for Mark's Citternists of Penzance band nomination 
 for
 their album Arf, arf. Hopefully next time.
 Could't help it.
 RT


 Hi Roman,

 As you will probably noticed, I did not write the article,
I am flabbergasted. Yet another voice from the wensledale gallery.
RT




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[LUTE] An interesting article in the Washington post.

2007-04-09 Thread Chris Bolton
I had to admit to myself that I've been guilty of the same phenomenon as
described in the following article, but I've decided to keep listening and
plucking away in spite of the somewhat depressing state of affairs.
Is it just a romantic notion that life as a lute player would have been
easier under the patronage of the Medici?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html

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[LUTE] Re: An interesting article in the Washington post.

2007-04-09 Thread bill kilpatrick
20-plus years ago i saw nigel kennedy do the same
thing in a pedestrian passageway under hammersmith
circle in london.  he was dressed up to look like the
character on the cover of the aqualung album by
jethro tull.  i put some money in his hat and listened
for while but i'm sure very few others did.

reading a book about pius II (piccolomini) which
states that as a student in rome, the 15th cent.
humanist antonio beccadelli (1394—1471) called il
panormita, used to busk with his lyre while his
boyfriend, ergotele, sang.

i always give money to buskers - especially those
reserved enough to play on a take-it or leave-it
basis.

thanks for that - great article.

--- Chris Bolton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had to admit to myself that I've been guilty of
 the same phenomenon as
 described in the following article, but I've decided
 to keep listening and
 plucking away in spite of the somewhat depressing
 state of affairs.
 Is it just a romantic notion that life as a lute
 player would have been
 easier under the patronage of the Medici?
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html
 
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[LUTE] Busking on the Lute.

2007-04-09 Thread AHenrijr
Greetings one and all from Axel. In 2002 I attended the Grand Prix of  Europe 
at the Nurburgring in Germany's Eiffel Mountains. Early in the  morning on 
race day, I pulled out my lute and started practicing near the gift  shop and 
cafe. Bring a really obnoxious tourist who spent his childhood in  Germany, I 
wore my American Flag shirt (obtained from the Indianapolis Motor  Speedway) 
and 
my dark brown cowboy hat. It was getting warm so I took my cowboy  hat off 
and began playing my simple Newsidler pieces. To my surprise,  people  from 
around the world would listed for  second and would drop  money into the cowboy 
hat. Eventually, I had enough money to buy breakfast and  get some trinkets on 
The Grand Prix of Europe from the gift shop, Some people  stayed around for the 
duration of the music. To those people I explained that  some lute music was 
written in a tablature known as German  lute tablature.  They seemed very 
pleased. My apologies to my fellow lutenists, I hope that the  Formula One 
world 
community does not think that all lute players are Black Men  who wear their 
nation's flag and traditional head gear while playing lute at the  Grand Prix. 
Of course I am no Joshua Bell, but all was much fun and a good  time was had by 
all.
 



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[LUTE] Re: Busking on the Lute.

2007-04-09 Thread Andrew Gibbs
This is very encouraging - I just need to buy a cowboy hat...

On 9 Apr 2007, at 18:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings one and all from Axel. In 2002 I attended the Grand Prix  
 of  Europe
 at the Nurburgring in Germany's Eiffel Mountains. Early in the   
 morning on
 race day, I pulled out my lute and started practicing near the  
 gift  shop and
 cafe. Bring a really obnoxious tourist who spent his childhood in   
 Germany, I
 wore my American Flag shirt (obtained from the Indianapolis Motor   
 Speedway) and
 my dark brown cowboy hat. It was getting warm so I took my cowboy   
 hat off
 and began playing my simple Newsidler pieces. To my surprise,   
 people  from
 around the world would listed for  second and would drop  money  
 into the cowboy
 hat. Eventually, I had enough money to buy breakfast and  get some  
 trinkets on
 The Grand Prix of Europe from the gift shop, Some people  stayed  
 around for the
 duration of the music. To those people I explained that  some lute  
 music was
 written in a tablature known as German  lute tablature.  They  
 seemed very
 pleased. My apologies to my fellow lutenists, I hope that the   
 Formula One world
 community does not think that all lute players are Black Men  who  
 wear their
 nation's flag and traditional head gear while playing lute at the   
 Grand Prix.
 Of course I am no Joshua Bell, but all was much fun and a good   
 time was had by
 all.




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[LUTE] Re: An interesting article in the Washington post.

2007-04-09 Thread David Rastall
On Apr 9, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Chris Bolton wrote:

 I had to admit to myself that I've been guilty of the same  
 phenomenon as
 described in the following article, but I've decided to keep  
 listening and
 plucking away in spite of the somewhat depressing state of affairs.
 Is it just a romantic notion that life as a lute player would have  
 been
 easier under the patronage of the Medici?

The thing that amused me the most about that article was the fact  
that Bell himself was freaked out because no-one was paying any  
attention to him.  That must have been a strange experience for a  
world-class concert virtuoso!

The article itself was pretentious journalistic crap...I mean:  how  
stupid!  Hey, guys, let's play some candid camera!  You hide the  
camera, and I'll mill around in the crowd and question people about  
their reactions to this guy playing the violin.  If anybody asks, no  
problem!  I'll tell them I'm doing an article on commuting.  What the  
hell, it's almost true, right?

Don't be taken in by what you read in the Washington Post.  That  
article tells me more about journalists than it does about commuters.

You can be certain that thousands of commuters have paid good money  
to see Joshua Bell perform in his proper sphere:  the concert stage.   
So nobody stopped to listen to him in the subway.  Rest assured:   
there is still a concert stage out there, and always will be.

David Rastall
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[LUTE] Re: Busking on the Lute.

2007-04-09 Thread LGS-Europe
 Greetings one and all from Axel. In 2002 I attended the Grand Prix of 
 Europe

Welcome to the not so select club of lute players that like F1 racing. An 
unlikely combination that has many followers in my cirlce of lute friends. I 
recall many a Sunday afternoon spend watching the race with a fellow lute 
player, drinking some beers, eating shrimps and discussing gut strings, 
comparing the concentration of Schumi with that needed playing a lute 
concert. Most race Sundays another lute playing friend will give me call in 
the evening to discuss the race. And while rehearsing the Terzi duets with 
my duet partner our language would be borrowed largely from the race world. 
We should start a lute  F1 society, perhaps? ;-)

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[LUTE] Re: An interesting article in the Washington post.

2007-04-09 Thread LGS-Europe
Anybody considered that busking is quite a different sport from giving 
concerts in concert halls? Captivating one's audience is quite different, I 
imagine.

David


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From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Bolton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:23 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: An interesting article in the Washington post.


 On Apr 9, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Chris Bolton wrote:

 I had to admit to myself that I've been guilty of the same
 phenomenon as
 described in the following article, but I've decided to keep
 listening and
 plucking away in spite of the somewhat depressing state of affairs.
 Is it just a romantic notion that life as a lute player would have
 been
 easier under the patronage of the Medici?

 The thing that amused me the most about that article was the fact
 that Bell himself was freaked out because no-one was paying any
 attention to him.  That must have been a strange experience for a
 world-class concert virtuoso!

 The article itself was pretentious journalistic crap...I mean:  how
 stupid!  Hey, guys, let's play some candid camera!  You hide the
 camera, and I'll mill around in the crowd and question people about
 their reactions to this guy playing the violin.  If anybody asks, no
 problem!  I'll tell them I'm doing an article on commuting.  What the
 hell, it's almost true, right?

 Don't be taken in by what you read in the Washington Post.  That
 article tells me more about journalists than it does about commuters.

 You can be certain that thousands of commuters have paid good money
 to see Joshua Bell perform in his proper sphere:  the concert stage.
 So nobody stopped to listen to him in the subway.  Rest assured:
 there is still a concert stage out there, and always will be.

 David Rastall
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.rastallmusic.com



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[LUTE] Re: Busking on the Lute.

2007-04-09 Thread Arto Wikla

On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, LGS-Europe wrote:

 We should start a lute  F1 society, perhaps? ;-)

I'll join that club immediately!  :)
(Räikkönen and Kovalainen are Finns, Rosberg half Finn...
 and yes, I have to watch every race... :-)

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[LUTE] Re: An interesting article in the Washington post.

2007-04-09 Thread David Rastall
On Apr 9, 2007, at 1:27 PM, LGS-Europe wrote:

 Anybody considered that busking is quite a different sport from giving
 concerts in concert halls? Captivating one's audience is quite  
 different, I
 imagine.

Absolutely.  One thing that WP article did point out effectively was  
that no-one stops for virtuosos.  That may be what draws people to  
concert halls, but on the street you have to have more than that in  
order to attract attention.

And actually, there are legitimate venues for outdoor musicians.   
Picture the urban landscape:  city parks on a Sunday afternoon,  
crowds lining up to get into the theatre, organized events such as  
street fairs, block parties etc.  And yes, people do stop and listen.

Ask any journalist at the Washington Post where to go to hear street  
musicians in DC.  They'll tell you all kinds of interesting stuff,  
but will any of them tell you the subway?

David Rastall
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[LUTE] Re: Busking on the Lute.

2007-04-09 Thread Andreas Schlegel
That's also something for me... (Sauber comes from Switzerland...)

Andreas

Am 09.04.2007 um 20:13 schrieb Arto Wikla:


 On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, LGS-Europe wrote:

 We should start a lute  F1 society, perhaps? ;-)

 I'll join that club immediately!  :)
 (Räikkönen and Kovalainen are Finns, Rosberg half Finn...
  and yes, I have to watch every race... :-)

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[LUTE] F1 and theorbo... ;-)

2007-04-09 Thread Arto Wikla

I answered:
 
  We should start a lute  F1 society, perhaps? ;-)
 
 I'll join that club immediately!  :)
 (Räikkönen and Kovalainen are Finns, Rosberg half Finn...
  and yes, I have to watch every race... :-)

And so every 200th Finn is a Formula 1 driver! ;)
(500/2.5 = 200)
And it is much more common to play the theorbo! ;))

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[LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597

2007-04-09 Thread Alfonso Marin
Witch can be unprotected in 5 seconds!!!
Greetings,

Alfonso
On 10-apr-2007, at 2:14, Stephan Olbertz wrote:

 Am 7 Apr 2007 um 18:13 hat Daniel F Heiman geschrieben:

 Should the LSA digitize all the films in the Library?  Nice idea.
 Requires quite a bit of (volunteer?) time by someone.  Then what?
 Sell them on CD or by file download?   May run into objections from
 the libraries that own the original publications and could be  
 damaging
 to publishing houses like Minkoff that sell facsimiles.

 As far as I understand there are some options for giving only  
 limited access to pdfs,
 like view-only etc.

 Regards,

 Stephan











 Other suggestions?

 Daniel Heiman

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 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597

 What is 17 years old?  The list? The microfilm?
 The list.

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[LUTE] Some thoughts on accessibility of original sources of music (was Morley's canzonets with lute 1597)

2007-04-09 Thread Alfonso Marin
Dear fellow lutenists,

I think that all the libraries that have documents of cultural  
interest should digitalize their collections and make them freely  
available  to everybody. Most of these libraries that hold old books  
are state organizations finanzed by the central or regional  
governments and at the end of the days they dont make much money  
selling a few old-fashioned microfilms a year. These books belong to  
humanity because they are an important part of the world's cultural  
heritage and for that reason these library should encourage people to  
study and learn from them. In our case, music, it is even more  
important since music becomes real and serves its purpose only when  
performed. Music stored in the shelves of an old library has no value  
by itself.
An exemplary example is the library of Copenhagen I told you about  
some days ago that own the Vecchi's canzonettas. The have all their  
important documents freely available to everybody in PDF.

I requested the Biblioteca della musica di Bologna to make a copy of  
a lute book that I can not find anywhere else. I was really  
discouraged to learn that they charge 112€ for a loan of the microfilm!
It will take a lot of time and they even accept credit-cards for   
payment. Then I will have to go to the local library and make copies  
of each page of the microfilm for 20 cents a copy. To much money and  
complication!
It should be much easier. Don't you think?
The Biblioteca Centrale of Bologna holds one of the best lute  
collections in the world and, at least by e-mail, it is not possible  
to even get a reply from them.
If I ever become president of my country, my first pronouncement  
would be: Free facsimiles for everybody!   ;)
Many greetings to all of you,
Alfonso Marin



On 10-apr-2007, at 2:14, Stephan Olbertz wrote:

 Am 7 Apr 2007 um 18:13 hat Daniel F Heiman geschrieben:

 Should the LSA digitize all the films in the Library?  Nice idea.
 Requires quite a bit of (volunteer?) time by someone.  Then what?
 Sell them on CD or by file download?   May run into objections from
 the libraries that own the original publications and could be  
 damaging
 to publishing houses like Minkoff that sell facsimiles.

 As far as I understand there are some options for giving only  
 limited access to pdfs,
 like view-only etc.

 Regards,

 Stephan











 Other suggestions?

 Daniel Heiman

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 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597

 What is 17 years old?  The list? The microfilm?
 The list.

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