[LUTE] Re: Goffriller
Ed: Paul O'Dettes copy of the Goffriller lute was used on this vinyl LP: https://www.discogs.com/Paul-ODette-Early-Venetian-Lute-Music/release/10202869 However, there is no original lute by Goffriller listed in the Lautenweltaddressbuch. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Martin Sent: 15 March, 2018 14:30 To: lute net Subject: [LUTE] Goffriller Dear ones, I reside in Northern Minnesota, and in a few days we will have a cello concert performed by Amit Peled, and he is performing on Pablo Casals’ old cello by Matteo Goffriller made in 1733. I looked up some information on that builder, and he founded the Venice school of violin making and he is known mostly for his cellos. Most or all of his surviving instruments are accounted for, but all lists contained only violins, violas, cellos, basses. No lutes listed. I seem to recall years ago that Paul O’Dette used to play an alto lute built by Nico van der waals, modeled after a lute by Goffriller. I am having a difficult time finding anything about extant Goffriller lutes. Does anyone know anything about the provenance of an old Goffriller lute? I would like to know, as I will be meeting with Amit Pelad, who has Pablo Casals’ Goffriller cello. Thanks in advance. Sent from my iPhone To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Interesting exhibition featuring lute opens today in Yale
The opening event is now fossilized at: https://youtu.be/BXtpfU4Bfjo?t=735 The meat of the presentation starts here: https://youtu.be/BXtpfU4Bfjo?t=1264 Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Luke Emmet Sent: 14 February, 2018 15:57 To: David Van Edwards Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Interesting exhibition featuring lute opens today in Yale Hi David Thanks for sharing that - it looks really intriguing - I hope to see the exhibition when comes back to the UK over the summer. As you have probably already seen, the Yale site includes the short intro film which is narrated by Stephen Fry which well worth the watch https://britishart.yale.edu/multimedia-video/27/6516 Best Wishes - Luke On 14-Feb-2018 12:50, David Van Edwards wrote: >The Paston Treasure: Microcosm of the Known World > > The Paston Treasure, a huge painting from Norwich Castle, England, > showing part of the collection of Robert Paston the Earl of Yarmouth > c.1665 features a prominent life-size image of a 12 course lute and > less prominently a bass viol, pochette, violin, trumpet and a tenor > recorder. It has been the subject of a major collaborative > investigation and the splendid exhibition that shows off the results, > including several of the surviving objects in the painting, opens today > Wednesday 14th Feb. in the Yale Center for British Art. > > https://britishart.yale.edu/event/opening-conversation-paston-treasure- > microcosm-known-world > > There will be a live stream of the opening event starting at 5.30 > Eastern Seaboard time. > > For the exhibition the Lute Society http://www.lutesociety.org/ have > lent the 12 course lute made in their 2010 summer school to display in > a case with historic examples of each of the other instruments. > > After the showing in Yale the exhibition moves to Norwich Castle from > July - September. > https://www.museums.norfolk.gov.uk/norwich-castle > > From the photos I've seen the exhibition is positively sumptuous and > admission is free! > > Best wishes, > > David > > -- > > The Smokehouse, > 6 Whitwell Road, > Norwich, NR1 4HB > England. > > Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899 > Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk > > -- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- __ Orlando Lutes http://www.orlando-lutes.com
[LUTE] Interesting perspective on Spinacino & Petrucci
In a set of notes for a harpsichord recording : https://www.naxos.com/mainsite/blurbs_reviews.asp?item_code=8.572998 tNum=572998=About this Recording=English# Particularly the 8^th paragraph, dealing with track 1. Daniel Heiman -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Luther's lute
Not intabulations of the chorales themselves, but Matthaus Reymann in hin Nostes Musicae includes Fantasias super Nun komm der Heiden Heiland Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her Erhalt uns Herr bei deinem Wort Es spricht der unwesen Mund wohl Erbarm dich mein, O Herre Gott Ich rufe zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ Nun freut euch lieben Christen G'mein Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt Wenn mein Stündlein vorhanden ist Fairly challenging music. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Stubbs Sent: 18 April, 2017 08:03 To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luther's lute The text for some chorales is ascribed to Martin Luther in: Sacred Music For Lute Edited by Catherine Liddell, Volume I: Renaissance tuning Published by Lyre Music Publications, copyright 2000 3710 Bellaire Circle Fort Worth, Texas 76109 USA I couldn't find an ISBN number for this publication. Best, "The Other" Stephen Stubbs -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of jo.lued...@t-online.de Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:19 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luther's lute Dear G. C. Kaleido, Luther did indeed play the lute and some chorals from the core repertoire of the protestant church are ascribed to him, but if you ever come upon any mentioning of a lute book from his hands, be sure that it's a fraud. I do not know about any collected edition of intavolations of chorals ascribed to Martin Luther (the chorals, not the tabs!), but it is quite possible that there is at least on ore the other. Best, Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Luther's lute Datum: 2017-04-16T10:45:12+0200 Von: "G. C."An: "Lutelist" Dear list, Martin Luther allegedly played the lute. He is also the purported composer of a number of protestant psalms. Has there been any research work on Luther's possible ouvre, or an attempt to collect his psalms in tablature or otherwise (from different lutebooks / manuscript sources)? Is there any mention of "a Luther lute book"? B.R. G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A Fronimo question
Rainer: Yes, the time signature characters are located in the tablature font file, and the Fronimo font file layouts are not standard -- not all spots in the font map are filled, and not all spots that are occupied are filled with the same character that is there in a standard text or display font. If you use a font for the tablature characters that was not supplied with the Fronimo software, the characters located at the corresponding place in the font map will sometimes be different. Get a font editor and modify the font (e.g. Old English Text MT that comes with Windows) and save it under a new name. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Sent: 06 February, 2017 04:54 To: Lute net Subject: [LUTE] A Fronimo question Erm, I assume most members of the Fronimo mailing list are members of this list. Question: Instead of time signatures get empty boxes. I assume this is a font problem. Any idea anybody? Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] A previously unknown MS from the 1590s
In the Stadtbibliothek Baunschweig: [1]http://www.rism.info/en/home/newsdetails/article/2/a-previously-unkn own-lute-tablature.html Regards, Daniel -- References 1. http://www.rism.info/en/home/newsdetails/article/2/a-previously-unknown-lute-tablature.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute music for Candlemas
David: Richard Allison has a Nunc dimittis, the seventh piece in his "Psalmes of David in Meter," but it probably would work best if you can draft a singer rather than playing it as a solo. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Andrico Sent: 23 January, 2017 09:07 To: David van Ooijen; lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music for Candlemas I suggest the Cantique de Simeon in Vallet's _Regia Pietas_, p. 166. It's in F mode and actually quite satisfying to play. RA __ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.eduon behalf of David van Ooijen Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:41 PM To: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] lute music for Candlemas Dear collected wisdom I'm to play something like 20 minutes in a concert around the theme of Canldemas, aka Feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It's the occasion 40 days after his birth Maria presented Jesus in the temple. Jesus is regared the light of the world, so it's the occasion of having your candles blessed in church. Simeon was the priest on duty and he blessed Jesus with a Nunc Dimittis. Simeon died afterwards, as was foretold to him by the Holy Spirit. So much for history. Now for music. Themes can be light, Simeon, Nunc Dimittis, whatever else you can think of. I'm open to suggestions of good lute pieces. Preferably, but necessarily confined to, 16th century polyphony. David PS: For those who wondered what I did for the Song of Songs concert, I intabulated four motets by Palestrina and six by Lechner. The latter was a very welcome tip from one of you. *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. [1]mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. [2]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Nigel North concert videos on YouTube
From a concert performed last March, five sets are here: [1]http://bit.ly/Nigel-ByronColby The sixth set, which will complete the concert, has been edited and is awaiting final approval to post. Regards, Daniel -- References 1. http://bit.ly/Nigel-ByronColby To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: El atanbor
Sean: El ata~bor = tambor, a drum. The tilde over a vowel may represent either an "n" or an "m," depending on the context. In fact, the short ostinato does sound a bit like a drum. The section at the end of the discussion is telling you how to use a guitar as a substitute for a vihuela when playing the part. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Smith Sent: 18 January, 2016 18:57 To: lute list Subject: [LUTE] El atanbor Dear vihuelists, guitarists and historians, The final piece in Valderabanos' vihuela books is a "para discantar" over a one-measure "punto" 'commonly known as "el atanbor"'. Is there a meaning to this Atanbor? I've never seen in in relation to lute/vihuela music before. In the final line of the incipit there is the phrase: ". o en guitarr su tercera en vazio a los vieios con tercera en lleno de la vihuela en unisonus." I have negligible spanish skills - could someone translate this for me? I could send an image of the incipit to whomever needs it. Much appreciated in advance, Sean To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vel Puo Giurar Amor
Tomoko: The collection was first published in 1551. The 1597 basso partbook in the British Library is from the fifth reprint of it! Apparently someone else enjoyed the music as well. See entry 1551-10 in this (as yet incomplete) index: http://imslp.org/wiki/User:Feduol/Sandbox I have not found any other copy of the music on line, though. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tomoko Koide Sent: 30 October, 2015 07:43 To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vel Puo Giurar Amor Dear Joachim Thank you for prompt reply, great help to find a source and lyrics! A basso part book containing the song survives but other two parts (cantus, tenor) does not seem to . https://repository.royalholloway.ac.uk/items/359bdfc2-9b51-be97-1464-15a5aea7e233/1/ (..and I couldn't help but grin at nice doodles some skill hands added to this book... :) ) Tomoko -Original Message- From: jo.lued...@t-online.de Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:22 PM To: Tomoko Koide ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vel Puo Giurar Amor Dear Tomoko, search for the song title in combination with the composer nam Vincenzo Ferro. This should lead you even (if I remember well) to an internet-publication of the vocal model. Regards, Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Vel Puo Giurar Amor Datum: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:34:45 +0100 Von: "Tomoko Koide" lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Dear collective wisdom, Could anyone tell me if the song and lyrics of "Vel Puo Giurar Amor" survives in other sources? The piece I recently found in Vincenzo Glilei's Intavolature di Lauto, pp.13-14, is so beautiful that I would love to know the original song.. http://imslp.org/wiki/Intavolature_de_lauto_(Galilei,_Vincenzo) regards, Tomoko Koide To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Buxtehude
Also here: http://www.free-scores.com/download-sheet-music.php?pdf=7277 Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Darsie Sent: 17 August, 2015 16:13 To: Undisclosed-recipients: Cc: baroque lute list Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Buxtehude For those interested, there is tab here [1]http://earlymusicstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Allmande_Cour _Sar_Gig.pdf and the entire Walter Gerwig album is here: [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTX0MycryIA Cheers, Richard On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Sterling Price [3]spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Hi all. I'm looking for the buxtehude suite on Gerwigs album from the 1960s. I had heard that there was an 18th century version for lute, but then I read that wasn't the case. Also the pachelbel suite on the same album I'd love to have. Thanks! Sterling Sent from my iPad To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://earlymusicstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Allmande_Cour_Sar_Gig .pdf 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTX0MycryIA 3. mailto:spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] No place to plant your little finger...
but it is almost as light as a lute. [1]https://youtu.be/n3g4j0ERp5M Daniel -- References 1. https://youtu.be/n3g4j0ERp5M To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question
There are various commercially-available remedies as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_peg#Peg_dope Whatever you use, apply it sparingly, and realize that you may have to remove some or all of it if the application does not improve the situation. Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David van Ooijen Sent: 13 August, 2015 06:02 To: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question Love that typo. ;-) David On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: I use talk only. Baby powder. David On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler [1][2]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that applying a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning. So, is that a 50/50 mix? Should I add any water? any tips gratefully received kind regards andy To get on or off this list see list information at [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4][5]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:[6]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk 2. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:[8]davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. [9]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ -- *** David van Ooijen [10]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [11]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. javascript:; 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. javascript:; 5. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 6. javascript:; 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. javascript:; 9. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 10. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 11. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Converting tablature to grand staff
Tobiah: Fronimo does this instantly and fairly well. You may have to use the Rebeam notes command to get a presentation that is more easily read. Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Tobiah Sent: 19 February, 2015 10:45 To: Lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Converting tablature to grand staff I'm able to do this with Finale to some extent, but it feels as though I'm expending too much effort in the process. Are there any other favorite computer tools for doing this, or do people just sort of convert on the fly with their eye? Thanks, Tobiah To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Neusidler
I should correct this to say that there are several links there to his 1574 publication in German tablature and to both the Primo libro and secondo libro from 1566 in Italian tablature. Jason Kortis has been kind enough to transcribe the whole Primo libro into Fronimo format so you can print it out in whichever format you wish. That is here: https://xa.yimg.com/df/Fronimo_editor/M.+Newsidler+Libro+Primo+1566.zip Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel F. Heiman Sent: 18 February, 2015 21:48 To: 'Dan Winheld'; 'sterling price'; 'Lutelist Net' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Neusidler Dan: There are several places you can download digital facsimiles of Melchior Neusidler's publications in German tablature. There are links on the Digital Facsimiles page of the LSA site: http://bit.ly/KWa5XB Regards. Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Winheld Sent: 18 February, 2015 19:20 To: sterling price; Lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Neusidler Me too- but I would take German tab. rather than nothing at all. More thanks- Dan On 2/18/2015 4:34 PM, sterling price wrote: Hi--I am looking for a version of the Teutch Lautenbuch of Melchior Neusidler that is in something other than German Tab. Or do I need to go ahead and try to learn to read German Tab? Thanks all, Sterling -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Neusidler
Dan: There are several places you can download digital facsimiles of Melchior Neusidler's publications in German tablature. There are links on the Digital Facsimiles page of the LSA site: http://bit.ly/KWa5XB Regards. Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Winheld Sent: 18 February, 2015 19:20 To: sterling price; Lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Neusidler Me too- but I would take German tab. rather than nothing at all. More thanks- Dan On 2/18/2015 4:34 PM, sterling price wrote: Hi--I am looking for a version of the Teutch Lautenbuch of Melchior Neusidler that is in something other than German Tab. Or do I need to go ahead and try to learn to read German Tab? Thanks all, Sterling -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Ensemble Viscera performance
Iberian music, ca. 1 hour long: [1]http://bit.ly/19lycPy You guys in New York should be letting us know about things like this, particularly since it is not on YouTube where videos stay up indefinitely. This will disappear sometime fairly soon. Regards, Daniel -- References 1. http://bit.ly/19lycPy To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.
The discussion so far has confirmed my diagnosis that the question cannot be answered with a brief summary. OK. I will try to limit my response, but no promises. First, to oversimplify a bit, you have to consider the main strains of Protestantism, the Lutherans, the Calvinists and the Anglicans, which each have a different musical point of view. The Calvinists took the simplest approach, limiting the musical participation in services mainly to psalm singing, often without accompaniment, as mentioned earlier. Nevertheless, this led to the publication of the Geneva Psalter, which provided melodies for use in church and for devotions at home. Those melodies underlie a huge body of all sorts of more complex music composed from that time to the present. In the lute world, you have to look at the two books of sacred music published by Nicolaes Vallet (Een en twintich Psalmen Davids and Regia Pietas) as derived quite directly from that tradition. Adrian Le Roy published psalm settings in several collections, 21 in 1552 and 8 in 1574 (edition by CNRS, 1962) in addition to a full set of 150 in 1567. The Lutherans and the Anglicans retained much more of the formal structure of the Roman Catholic mass, including the singing of the Kyrie, Gloria, Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei, in addition to the hymns, at least in larger churches and especially on festivals. Martin Luther clearly had some experience playing the lute, in addition to composing at least a few simple hymn melodies. Lutheran churches of any size normally had (and have today) on staff a musical director, organist and/or choral conductor, who may be known as a cantor, and these musicians often have composed their own music to suit the needs of their positions. Yes Johann Sebastian Bach was a Lutheran and cantor/organist/composer in Leipzig, but he was just the pinnacle of a large body of composers starting from some of Luther's personal friends, like Georg Rhau, Johann Walther and Georg Forster who initiated the creation of the body of music, the Lutheran chorale tunes, that again forms the basis of an ongoing compositional tradition. Later sixteenth century figures such as Hans Leo Hassler, Johann Eccard and Erasmus Widmann began the elaboration. Well-known representatives from the seventeenth century include Michael Praetorius, Michael Altenburg, Heinrich Schütz, Johann Hermann Schein, Samuel Scheidt, Johann Pachelbel, Johann Crüger, Franz Tunder, Nicolas Bruhns, Dietrich Buxtehude In the world of the lute, there are many settings of Lutheran chorale melodies. In print they appear in the collections of Melchior Neusidler, where some settings are attributed to Conrad Neusidler. Matthaeus Reymann's Noctes Musicae includes a bunch of massive fantasies based on Lutheran chorale melodies. The Königsberg Ms includes simple settings of at least 20 Lutheran chorales, in addition to around 50 Psalms. Also in England, large Anglican congregations have always employed an organist/choirmaster/composer to provide for their musical needs. Early major composers in that tradition include Christopher Tye, Thomas Tomkins, Thomas Tallis, Thomas Weelkes, Orlando Gibbons and Adrian Batten. William Byrd did write a number of Anglican anthems in addition to his well-known body of music for the Roman Catholic rite. A very important composer of church music later in the 17th century was Henry Purcell. Sacred music for lute in tablature, in addition to the Allison Psalm collection mentioned earlier, includes Thomas Campion's First Booke of Ayres, printed in 1614, and Miserere My Maker in the Turpyn Book, though these were pretty clearly not intended for use in formal church services. William Leighton's collection, The Tears or Lamentations of a sorrowful soul, 1613/14 includes sacred music in English by John Dowland, John Bull, Alphonso Ferrabosco and Coperario in addition to pieces he composed himself. For a modern collection for lute with very useful critical notes, see Catherine Liddell, Sacred Music for Lute, Volume 1, Renaissance Tuning, Fort Worth: Lyre Music Publications, 2000. Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Markus Lutz Sent: 31 December, 2014 02:37 To: Ron Andrico; Herbert Ward; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music. Hi Ron, it is much too simple and in fact wrong to say the reformed religion or even derogatively reformed sects. In fact there had been two protestant churches that had a real different approach for music in services. The so called reformed protestants had been mainly influenced by the Swiss reformators Zwingli (who had been in fact a good lutenist and musician) and Calvin, who didn't want to disturb the service by music. In the reformed churches the singing of psalms was for a long time the only possibility to have music in the service. Nevertheless we have many good composers and musicians from this
[LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.
Herb: No, it cannot be summarized briefly. Would you care to narrow the focus of your question a bit? Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Ward Sent: 29 December, 2014 23:15 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Historical Protestant music. Can the question of Catholic vs Protestant support for the historical performance and composing of early music be summarized briefly? By way of supplying framework, Martin Luther began around 1520 and the Thirty Year's war lasted until 1648. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: those sarabands
Thomas: Both of Donington's books have essentially the same relatively limited information: The only specifically French reference is Charles Masson, Nouveau traité de regles de composition de la musique, Paris 1699, the sarabande is taken gravely (gravement) Mace, 1676, says Serabands are of the Shortest Triple-Time; but are more Toyish, and Light, than Corantoes; and commonly of Two Strains Philips, The New World of Words, in 1658 defines Saraband as Lesson or Air Musick going with a quick time. The fifth edition (1696) of the book omits the tempo indication, and the copy of the first edition in the British Museum has a handwritten correction (possibly from around 1719) where the word quick is crossed out and changed to slow. The general impression is that the tempo slowed late in the 17th century. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Walker Sent: 15 December, 2014 14:03 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] those sarabands Greetings all-- I know the sarabande was originally a lively ditty which morphed pretty thoroughly by the late 17th century. I have a question about the middle ground, in particular the sarabandes found in Ballard's prints from the 1630s, though. Many seem to work whether played lively or stately, and I know of an old Bailes recording where he positively burns through a sarabande by Mesangeau. I also have played sarabands in ensemble works by Jenkins et al that demanded a lively reading. The question is, what textual evidence do we have for expected tempi of sarabandes of the French school 1610-1640? Thank you kindly, Thomas Walker, Jr. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Scottish Lute Album
Let's try this: http://www.instantencore.com/contributor/contributor.aspx?CId=5076480 Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Tayler Sent: 08 November, 2014 00:46 To: Jacob Johnson Cc: lute Subject: [LUTE] Re: Scottish Lute Album Yes, mysteriously the link was changed after it was online for an hour or so. Here's the correct Instant Encore link: [1]https://www.instantencore.com/ControlPanel/Music/cpAlbumChecklist.as px?PIdQ15636 A lot of these companies resample the files and add compression and reverb, which is unfortunate because the dynamic range is lost (what little there is) so often the lute sounds very flat or compressed, Instant encore just adds a metatag to the MP3. Actually a lot of engineers add a lot of compression and then all of the piano dynamics disappear. The down side--you may laugh--is that if you listen in the car, you can't hear the quiet parts. And this is a major concern for marketing. I chose the bad in the car sound, but in a nice quiet room you can hear the dynamic shades and shapes. Recording setup: put up nine mics in my back room: 2x Senheiser MKH40, 1x ribbon mic with custom ribbon and motor, 2x Schoeps MK41, 2x Schoeps MK2H, 2x MKH 80. Yes, there are CDs! And they sound a bit rounder and smoother and obviously the sound has not been compressed. [2]http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00V71UOU d __ From: Jacob Johnson tmrguitar...@gmail.com To: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Scottish Lute Album Hi David, I would love to hear your album. I checked the Instant Encore link and it didn't seem to work. The CD Baby samples sound great, though! Do you have any plans to make physical copies available in the future? Also, would you mind telling me about the recording setup you used? Thanks so much, Jacob Johnson Guitar/Lute On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM, David Tayler [3]vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dear all, my new Album is now online. After putting it online, I asked my self, should I sell it or share it with my friends? Well, of course, sharing is the way to go! If you would like a free copy, just send me a message on FB and I will send you a download code. [1]CDBaby [2]Instant Encore Instant Encore has better preview files. CDBaby now offers FLAC files which sound as good as the CD Cheers, David T. -- References 1. [4]http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/davidtayler2 2. [5]http://www.instantencore.com/music/details.aspx?PIdQ15636 To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.instantencore.com/ControlPanel/Music/cpAlbumChecklist.aspx?PIdQ1 5636 2. http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00V71UOU 3. mailto:vidan...@sbcglobal.net 4. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/davidtayler2 5. http://www.instantencore.com/music/details.aspx?PIdQ15636 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: hello and introductions
Dear Ching-Ping: I would also like to extend my welcome to you. It is great to hear from someone in China. In my capacity as Webmaster for the Lute Society of America I try to track who is interested in our electronic offerings and where they are located. For example, our YouTube channel has been on the air for four years now and is on track to hit 100,000 all-time total views this month. http://bit.ly/N87o48 The greatest number of the hits are from the USA, though those constitute only 22%. In clear second place is Japan, with 10% – I know Ed Durbrow is a great fan of ours (Hi, Ed!), but there is no way he can account for 10,000 views by himself! The really amazing thing to me is that China, for all its billions of people, has produced only 17 views of our material in all that time. Thus is clear that interest in the European lute and knowledge about it must be almost non-existent in China. I hope you will be successful in spreading the word about our favorite instrument among your friends and acquaintances there. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ching-Ping Lin Sent: 02 August, 2014 19:46 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] hello and introductions Dear All, I'm new and have been reading for a while, but thought I should say hello to everyone. I live in Beijing and I've mainly been an early music singer, but I'm excited to be taking up the lute. It has not been easy (that's an understatement actually) getting an instrument, books or instruction over here, but I have to send many thanks to Ed Durbrow for helping me out from Japan. Glad to be part of this community, Ching-Ping -- 林青萍 Ching-Ping Lin p...@fatmice.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Songs on the Web
Charles: A fairly comprehensive summary of digital facsimiles available on the Internet is accessible on the website of the Lute Society of America: http://bit.ly/KWa5XB This of course includes much solo music, but accompanied vocal music from Bossinensis to the Baroque is listed as well. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mokotoff Sent: 01 August, 2014 09:57 To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Lute Songs on the Web Greetings Lutenists, I am reading through some songs with a soprano this week. I must have a roomful of printed books of music, greatest hits of the era, Dowland, Campion, Ford, most of the Stainer and Bell editions. Is there a place on the internet where these are perhaps already living to save me the scanning and printing for my performance binder? It doesn't have to be the editions I have.A Thanks for any advice. CharlesA -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.
Herb: This is a cosmetic problem that affects the monetary value of the instrument but not the sound the instrument produces. I have the same problem with a Tomlinson lute I purchased second0hand. I talked to Grant at the recent Lute Festival in Cleveland, and he basically said it is not important to fix it. If you choose to do something about it, the course of action depends in part on what the existing finish material is, but the choices basically boil down to: 1) try to refinish that area and make it blend with the surrounding parts of the soundboard 2) strip off all the finish on the soundboard, then a) refinish it b) leave the wood bare If the existing finish is shellac, option 1) may be easier to accomplish than if it is a varnish that may be difficult or impossible to match. Since shellac is soluble in alcohol, it may be possible just to redistribute the existing finish with denatured alcohol to even it out. Many early lutes seem to have had minimal or no finish on the soundboard, so 2)b is a realistic option. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Ward Sent: 27 July, 2014 15:52 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Bare spot on soundboard. I've worn a spot on the soundboard with my RH pinkie. The bare wood is starting to show through the finish. Should I do anything? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lutefest concert programs posted
Four of the concert programs for the upcoming Lute Festival in Cleveland are now on line: [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/seminar/index.html Daniel -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/seminar/index.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: David's Besard article
Martin: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/publications/Q/2012/index.html Issue 1, page 14. Slowly, but surely, the Table of Contents pages for the Quarterly are appearing on the website. They are most conveniently searchable using the restricted engine at the bottom of the home page: http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Shepherd Sent: 23 May, 2014 02:05 To: Nancy Carlin; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: David's Besard article Nancy, for those of us who probably do have the Q (somewhere!) can you remind us which issue it's in? Thanks, Martin On 23/05/2014 06:18, Nancy Carlin wrote: I have spare copies of the Quarterly that has David's article about the Besard duets in it with the music. If you are not a LSA member and didn't get it, email me with a street address and I will send you a copy. Nancy --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio
Anthony: Looking at the Minuet provided as a sample page raises some questions about the notation. The use of square brackets (rather than curly braces) at the beginning of each system implies that these are two separate instruments; thus the top staff is for the lute, and the bottom one is for the B.c. (That is to say this is not a grand-staff presentation of the lute part alone, and the continuo is on a separate page.) The question then becomes, what is the tuning of the lute? Conventional wisdom is that the Italians never adopted the d-minor tuning. So, if we assume an ffeff tuned instrument in G, the notated pitch is quite stratospheric, mostly above the 5th fret and hitting the 13th fret at one point. If we assume that the notation follows the modern guitar convention, sounding an octave lower than written (in spite of the absence of an 8 below the treble clef), then the music is quite easy, falling within the range of a 6-course lute or mandora. However, that puts many of the bass notes of the lute below the B.c. part, which seems a bit strange. Any additional information available? Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Hart Sent: 12 April, 2014 06:03 To: lute Subject: [LUTE] Lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio The lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio have now been published. Please visit [1]www.edizionear.com/lute.html Anthony Hart -- References 1. http://www.edizionear.com/lute.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: And, to reiterate
Why not just use a matchstick? Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of alexander Sent: 10 February, 2014 03:28 To: Rockford Mjos Cc: Dan Winheld; Herbert Ward; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] And, to reiterate If someone decides to saw off some tiny pieces of wood, for whatever purpose, and do it with a precision, A surgical bone saw is the best and quickest tool. Practically no wood wasted, too. That was the question. alexander r. I find fret shims sometimes useful on my archlute and theorbo, where I don't always get a new fret tight enough before that very short slide up to position. Instead of throwing that new fret out I will shim with wood or rolled thick paper. If older frets become loose but are still serviceable, I may also shim. But new frets make the instruments sound their best. -- R I could whittle with a utility knife, but that would be wasteful and time consuming. I find that a surgical saw, something like what one can find even on Amazon (Satterlee Bone Saw 13) is an ideal tool. A very thin blade with sharp teeth. Just make sure you do not cut yourself in the process... It is actually ideal for many uses with wood, bone and plastics. Guys, Why would either of you go to all that bother, rather than merely replacing the fret? Of course, an emergency situation (5 minutes before show time, during rehearsal, or stuck out somewhere beyond easy reach of the postal service no spare gut) is another story. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Facsimile
The pages load, including all the appropriate buttons, which appear to function, but there are no facsimile images displayed -- just a small box containing an X. Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Sent: 25 January, 2014 09:01 To: Andreas Schlegel; lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimile ?? Verstehe kein Wort... Rainer On 25.01.2014 15:53, Andreas Schlegel wrote: Thanks, Rainer! The first link is D-B 40588 - see: http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Quellen_CH/Quellen_CH.html The second link has no connection to the images... but normally it works. All the best, Andreas Am 25.01.2014 um 15:33 schrieb Rainer: Gerle 1532digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN618952 624 http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN61 8952624 4230http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PP N745197221PHYSID=PHYS_0001 Click on Werkzeugkasten The web pages are a nightmare... Rainer adS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 lute.cor...@sunrise.ch mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch
[LUTE] Re: Facsimile
On the website of the Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin the display of facsimile images on the page is now working again (without having to download a PDF file in a separate operation). Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Sent: 25 January, 2014 10:40 To: Daniel F. Heiman; 'lute list' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimile As I said - the web pages are a nightmare. Once again: Click on Werkzeugkasten and you will see a pdf icon... Rainer On 25.01.2014 17:26, Daniel F. Heiman wrote: The pages load, including all the appropriate buttons, which appear to function, but there are no facsimile images displayed -- just a small box containing an X. Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Sent: 25 January, 2014 09:01 To: Andreas Schlegel; lute list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimile ?? Verstehe kein Wort... Rainer On 25.01.2014 15:53, Andreas Schlegel wrote: Thanks, Rainer! The first link is D-B 40588 - see: http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Quellen_CH/Quellen_CH.html The second link has no connection to the images... but normally it works. All the best, Andreas Am 25.01.2014 um 15:33 schrieb Rainer: Gerle 1532digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN61895 2 624 http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN6 1 8952624 4230http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=P P N745197221PHYSID=PHYS_0001 Click on Werkzeugkasten The web pages are a nightmare... Rainer adS To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 lute.cor...@sunrise.ch mailto:lute.cor...@sunrise.ch
[LUTE] Re: LSA Website Digital Facsimiles Page
Thanks, Rainer: Well, I did have the two Newsidler books listed... I have added the rest, and I took out the link that annoyed you. The updated page is here, now with the number of links approaching 300! http://bit.ly/KWa5XB Thanks also for the suggestion to insert a note about what has been changed on the page. I put that at the top, just under the Table of Contents. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Sent: 20 January, 2014 11:02 To: Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re: LSA Website Digital Facsimiles Page Vallet: http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27720 http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27722 http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27723 Schlick: http://hdl.handle.net/1802/4943 From Karlsruhe Library: Kargel 1586 http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176881 Ochsenkuhn http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176888 Newsidler 1544_2http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/243869 Newsidler 1544_1http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/243892 Barbetta 1582 http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176867 Drusina http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176874 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication
One thing I forgot to mention is that Fronimo also has the capability to import from a MIDI file (which can be output by most general-purpose music programs) and use that to generate a good rough draft tablature. You will still want to adjust some of the fingering to minimize hand shifts (or maximize them, if you want special effects). Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel F. Heiman Sent: 19 November, 2013 00:54 To: 'Anthony Hart' Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication Anthony: Given the current state of the art, I would strongly encourage you to use Fronimo to set the tablature version of your edition. The cost of the software is moderate given the amount of time and effort that has been put into creating it. Input of tablature is very easy and very quick. The fonts provided with the program are extremely legible and well-designed - Francesco has worked hard to make the letters compatible so there are no clashes between them when they appear on adjacent lines. The fonts are aesthetically pleasing, and there are styles based loosely on historical examples from various traditions and tablature systems. Rhythm signs are included in forms that are specific for tablature. Because the Fronimo program is designed from the beginning for setting tablature, it includes provisions for adding all the necessary ornament signs, many of which are unique to tablature (and hence absent from general-purpose music software like Finale). The current version (version 3) of Fronimo includes good flexibility to define the spacing between rhythmic events and to adjust line spacing, font size, positioning of titles and editorial notes, etc. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Hart Sent: 18 November, 2013 23:27 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Tablature for publication I found a thread to this effect dating back to 2008 and was wondering if there has been any significant up dates to the opinions. I am planning to publish some 18th century lute sonatas which are in staff notation I intend to publish a study edition which is OK, I am using Finale. I also wish to publish a performance edition which will be in tablature. Finale has can achieve this (I am using the latest version 2014). But I am not sure what would be most widely accepted style. I have some published works from the 80's and, frankly I am not impressed with any of them. There has been several publish since those days which I have not seen. Does anyone have an option as to the most appropriate style, any examples of current works. I know that each player has his/her own style which suits them but I am trying to find a consensus of opinion ( You can please some people some of the time but it is impossible to please all the people all of the time!!)I used to copy out all the tablature by hand and became used to playing from them - but this just my way. I would be grateful for your options. Those who have published what was the reason for your choice. Another question: I propose a study edition which will consist of the score on staff notation and then publish as a performance edition, probably in parts (there are 24 sonatas and I was thinking of publishing in, say, four volumes of six in a spiral bound form for easy handling - any comments on this welcome. Should I publish as Tablature only (there will be the complete study edition should anyone be interested) or tablature plus staff in one volume? If the latter, the tablature complete followed by staff complete (or vice versa)or staff then tablature following each other (definitely not together on one page!. Still pondering which, I want the publication to be professional but also able to be playable from the publication. -- Anthony Hart MSc, LLCM, ALCM. Musicologist and Independent Researcher Highrise Court 'B', Apt 2, Tigne' Street, Sliema, SLM3174, MALTA Tel: +356 27014791; Mob: +356 9944 9552. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication
Anthony: Given the current state of the art, I would strongly encourage you to use Fronimo to set the tablature version of your edition. The cost of the software is moderate given the amount of time and effort that has been put into creating it. Input of tablature is very easy and very quick. The fonts provided with the program are extremely legible and well-designed - Francesco has worked hard to make the letters compatible so there are no clashes between them when they appear on adjacent lines. The fonts are aesthetically pleasing, and there are styles based loosely on historical examples from various traditions and tablature systems. Rhythm signs are included in forms that are specific for tablature. Because the Fronimo program is designed from the beginning for setting tablature, it includes provisions for adding all the necessary ornament signs, many of which are unique to tablature (and hence absent from general-purpose music software like Finale). The current version (version 3) of Fronimo includes good flexibility to define the spacing between rhythmic events and to adjust line spacing, font size, positioning of titles and editorial notes, etc. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Hart Sent: 18 November, 2013 23:27 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Tablature for publication I found a thread to this effect dating back to 2008 and was wondering if there has been any significant up dates to the opinions. I am planning to publish some 18th century lute sonatas which are in staff notation I intend to publish a study edition which is OK, I am using Finale. I also wish to publish a performance edition which will be in tablature. Finale has can achieve this (I am using the latest version 2014). But I am not sure what would be most widely accepted style. I have some published works from the 80's and, frankly I am not impressed with any of them. There has been several publish since those days which I have not seen. Does anyone have an option as to the most appropriate style, any examples of current works. I know that each player has his/her own style which suits them but I am trying to find a consensus of opinion ( You can please some people some of the time but it is impossible to please all the people all of the time!!)I used to copy out all the tablature by hand and became used to playing from them - but this just my way. I would be grateful for your options. Those who have published what was the reason for your choice. Another question: I propose a study edition which will consist of the score on staff notation and then publish as a performance edition, probably in parts (there are 24 sonatas and I was thinking of publishing in, say, four volumes of six in a spiral bound form for easy handling - any comments on this welcome. Should I publish as Tablature only (there will be the complete study edition should anyone be interested) or tablature plus staff in one volume? If the latter, the tablature complete followed by staff complete (or vice versa)or staff then tablature following each other (definitely not together on one page!. Still pondering which, I want the publication to be professional but also able to be playable from the publication. -- Anthony Hart MSc, LLCM, ALCM. Musicologist and Independent Researcher Highrise Court 'B', Apt 2, Tigne' Street, Sliema, SLM3174, MALTA Tel: +356 27014791; Mob: +356 9944 9552. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lawrence K Brown
David: After he quit making lutes, he continued building modern guitars for a while, but apparently he is no longer in that either. This link is dead. http://lawrencebrownguitars.weebly.com/ Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Rastall Sent: 24 October, 2013 13:30 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Lawrence K Brown I've been trying to contact LK Brown, but I can't find him online anywhere. Can someone tell me how to contact him nowadays? Thanks, David Rastall To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ebony Pegs
Craig: Some information is available within the Lautenweltadressbuch. http://bit.ly/S4CPmB If you put 15 into the Date field, it will pull up all the instruments made in the 16th century (as well as those made or repaired in 1615, 1715, etc.). In the Material field you will often see the material of which the back is made and occasionally some other portion of the instrument, though not likely the material for the pegs. You will see a lot of yew, maple and ivory backs. You do have to allow for the presence of a few forgeries in the list, and not every museum report is likely to be completely accurate, so you have to be a bit skeptical of things like mahogany, for example. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of co...@medievalist.org Sent: 28 September, 2013 19:49 To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Ebony Pegs Collected Wisdom, I know that today we know there's too much silica in ebony to use as tuning pegs, but I'm curious as to whether using ebony for pegs was a period practice pre-1600? Can anyone point me to appropriate documentation on the types of woods used on stringed instruments prior to 1600? Thank you as always. Regards, Craig To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Summary intavolations 33
Anton: I strongly suggest that you go back to using Fronimo for your output files. The software you are currently running is problematic in several ways: - the font is not properly designed for tablature stacked chords containing 'a,' 'd' and 'b' tab letters just become a muddle. an 'f' character over a 'b' character on adjacent strings is a visual mess. - having the dots on the tab characters instead of the rhythm signs is a disaster, especially because the spacing between the character and the dot is inconsistent a dotted 'a' character, a dotted 'd' character and a 'd' character without a dot are sometimes difficult to distinguish without a magnifying glass. an 'f' character and a dotted 'f' character are extremely difficult to differentiate when reading rapidly. Some of your ensemble arrangements look interesting. I am hoping to have a chance to try out a few of them next week at the Madison Early Music Festival. Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anton Höger Sent: 29 June, 2013 03:50 To: Lutelist List Subject: [LUTE] Summary intavolations 33 Hi, there are new Lute Intavolations on IMSLP (and I overwirked my homepage- http://lute-ensemble-tabulatures.npage.de/ Enjoy them Anton for 4 lutes (Unisono) Hassler, Hans Leo Canzon noni toni http://imslp.org/wiki/Sacri_Concentus_(Hassler,_Hans_Leo)#IMSLP285861 and the same for 4 lutes ad Quartam (2a-lutes and 2 D-lutes) or 2 a-lutes and 2 E-lutes (I always prefer this combination!) for 4 lutes (Ad secundam--g,g,g,d-lutes) Hassler, Hans Leo Canzon duodecim tonig,g,g,D http://imslp.org/wiki/Laudate_Dominum_omnes_gentes_(Hassler,_Hans_Leo)#IMSLP 284912 2 Sopranos 2 Lutes in g Gagliano, Marco da Aura in tanto lasciva 2 Sopranos 2 Lutes http://imslp.org/wiki/Su_la_sponda_del_Tebro_humida_(Gagliano,_Marco_da) 2 Lutes Unisono Kotter, HansPräludium in Fa http://imslp.org/wiki/Präludium_in_Fa_(Kotter,_Hans) Schmid, Bernhard d. Ä Ein guter Dantz http://imslp.org/wiki/Ein_guter_Dantz_(Schmid_I,_Bernhard)#IMSLP286343 -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge
It's here: http://cantastorie05.com/DowlandConference/registration/ -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of William Samson Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 02:49 To: Hector; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge This sounds very interesting. However I can't find details of the cost of attending the conference. When will this be decided? Thanks, Bill Samson From: Hector hectorl...@mac.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013, 21:09 Subject: [LUTE] Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge Dear all, The John Dowland 450th anniversary conference will take place at Fitzwilliam College Cambridge on 4-5 May 2013. This is a unique opportunity to hear and network with the best scholars and performers on the subject. The event includes: Concerts by: Nigel North (lute solo) Emma Kirkby and Jakob Lindberg (Lute song) The Rose Consort of Viols (consort songs and instrumental music) Paul O'Dette (lute solo) Presentations by: Christopher Hogwood/Francis Knights Anthony Rooley Kirsten Smith (New Castle University) Paul O'Dette and more... Master classes by: Nigel North Paul O'Dette For more information visit the website: [1]http://cantastorie05.com/DowlandConference/ We particularly want students to attend/participate so please distribute as appropriate. Best wishes, Hector Sequera University of Birmingham -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://cantastorie05.com/DowlandConference/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Traveling on Amtrak with a lute.
Herb: When I have traveled on Amtrak, the baggage handling system was my own two hands. I guess you can still tip a porter to carry things for you at some larger stations, but mostly it is DIY. Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Ward Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 16:52 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Traveling on Amtrak with a lute. Anyone with experience on Amtrak with a lute? The main question, of course, is whether you can keep the lute away from the baggage handling system, and otherwise safe. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Happy Thanksgiving
Thanks, David. Very nicely done. I notice though that you do not list the singer among the musicians. Hee hee ;-) Daniel -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Tayler Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:35 To: lute Subject: [LUTE] Happy Thanksgiving Happy Thanksgiving from Voices of Music In between the Turkey and the football game, here is Dominique Labelle singing Vivaldi In turbato mare http://youtu.be/ZjAooY2vj0I?hd=1 And also a special shout out to Luthval, who has cruised past the 2,000,000 mark on his YouTube channel Awesome! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: The Sick Tune
Alan: Thanks very much for this. It is exactly what I needed. Regards, Daniel From: Alan Hoyle [mailto:adr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 02:55 To: Daniel F. Heiman Subject: Re: [LUTE] The Sick Tune Daniel Is this the setting? (scanned from the [Dd.9.33 facsimile]) Best wishes Alan West Yorkshire On 2 August 2012 01:31, Daniel F. Heiman [1]heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote: Does anyone have this piece in tab they could send me (off list) or point me to a source on line? TIA Daniel Heiman -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:heiman.dan...@juno.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] The Sick Tune
Does anyone have this piece in tab they could send me (off list) or point me to a source on line? TIA Daniel Heiman -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far?
This process is amazingly intrusive. As part of my ongoing effort to post video from the recent LSA Summer Seminar on the LuteSocietyofAmerica channel on YouTube, I posted privately a section of raw video from the Participants' Concert so the performers could audition it prior to editing and posting it. Note that there is no text in the video, since I have not edited in the titles, and there is no meaningful text on the descriptive page, only the filename: 20120629-01-Kathryn, and the note that this is unedited video of their two lute songs. For this unlisted video, I have been flagged for matched third party content. When I check on the reason, I learn that: Your video may include the following copyrighted content: DOWLAND: LADY, IF YOU SO, musical composition administered by: One or more music publishing rights collecting societies The piece named is in fact the **second** song in the file. So someone has been paid to create pattern matching software that checks the whole of every video posted and to load a truly astounding number of sequences of notes into the system. Where will this end? Scary. Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Tayler Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 18:09 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: TRe: YouTube going too far? I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, they may claim that they actually own it (and then they are real trolls, after all). Then you have very little recourse. --- On Thu, 7/5/12, Sauvage Valery sauvag...@orange.fr wrote: From: Sauvage Valery sauvag...@orange.fr Subject: [LUTE] TRe: YouTube going too far? To: 'Lute List' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 7:55 AM I had often the same problem (Dowland, Narvaez, Milan, Bach...). I just disput the claim and usually they automatically withdrawn. Last one was about la Cancion del Emperador... I disput the claim (by Harry Fox Cie) but they maintain it, I had to delete the video, then to post it again, they again claim on it and I argue in the disput with the fact it was published in Spain in 1538 (so public domain), that I played myself, from the original source and I add the following text : Music and lyrics published in 1922 or earlier are in the Public Domain in the United States. No one can claim ownership of a song in the public domain. Public Domain music and songs may be used by anyone . . . without permission, without royalties, and without any limitations whatsoever. And sayed that the Harry fox claim was an abuse of the copyright laws. (I find the text quoted here : [1]http://www.pdinfo.com/ ) I think it is important to write : Public domain, original source, and to mention the date of publication of the music played (and country too). Valery -Message d'origine- De : [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de David van Ooijen Envoye : jeudi 5 juillet 2012 16:15 A : [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far? On 5 July 2012 16:05, Ron Andrico [5]praelu...@hotmail.com wrote: To make a long story short, the only words Youtube needs to see in response is that the music is in the Public Domain, or the person posting the music is the verified copyright holder. The challenge is then automatically withdrawn. It is not. Because this is the second time YouTube challenges this particular (and not at all popular) video. I'm not in it for the money, but coorperation claiming Greensleeves simply feels wrong. I also post 'fingerstyle covers' of pop songs (I've just recorded Paradise by Sade, early music of sorts. I will upload later today). Obviously these are far more popular, and obviously there are copyright holders involved who claim their share. Fair enough. But Greensleeves ... David -- *** David van Ooijen [6]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.pdinfo.com/ 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=praelu...@hotmail.com 6. file://localhost/mc/compose?to%c3%9avidvanooi...@gmail.com 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute poems
Thomas: With regard to poems in English, you should take a look at the program and videos from the performance by Ronn McFarlane and Robert Aubry Davis last Summer at the LSA Summer Seminar and Lute Festival. Mr. Davis read sections from eleven different poems that mention the lute. Some are quotations from Shakespeare plays (I am sure you do not want to post the whole document for those (-;), and some are well known to the lute community because they are the texts of lutesongs. The main page for the program is here, with MP3 files so you can hear some of the readings: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2010/McFarlaneConcert/index .html The full texts of the poems Blame not my lute and Objections Against the Immortality of the Soule are here: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2010/McFarlaneConcert/Texts .html Videos of Blame not My Lute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3GYM8b7L8Q and Objections http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3GYM8b7L8Q Feel free to reference these pages. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:03:59 +0100 Thomas Schall lauten...@lautenist.de writes: Hi all, I've redisigned my homepage (http://www.lautenist.de) and would like to ask if some of you know poems related to the lute which are not listed on my page. Thanks for your help and all the best -- Thomas Schall Doerflistrasse 2 CH-6078 Lungern +41 41 678 00 79 lauten...@lautenist.de -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Beating time for Lully
Literally: http://www.citedelamusiquelive.tv/Concert/0940463.html Regards, Daniel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Who got this gig?
[1]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/58/BcgOLMloEOI [2]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/59/YyNLx8n_49o [3]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/60/mf3Iks-iibA [4]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/61/ylJ04ARTGlY [5]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/62/lxnO9UyNMgg [6]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/63/XYUbGAwnVfU There is a clear shot of the theorbo player at about 6:07-6:12 in part 2/3 of the Handel Dixit Dominus at 0:24-0:27 and 12:04-12:07 in the Vivaldi. On the whole a pretty nice performance (although the choral forces may be larger than necessary) and a very well made video. Daniel -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/58/BcgOLMloEOI 2. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/59/YyNLx8n_49o 3. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/60/mf3Iks-iibA 4. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/61/ylJ04ARTGlY 5. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/62/lxnO9UyNMgg 6. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/63/XYUbGAwnVfU To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Like as the Lute question
Ben: Gordon is a very careful musicologist, recently retired from Acadia University, and you can trust his transcriptions. He sometimes monitors this list, but I don't know if he is on at present. In fact the Scolar Press facsimile shows exactly the rhythm that appears in the transcription in that section of the piece. (I did not check the whole thing.) The only obvious difference is that in the original the measures are of variable length, while in the transcription they are regularized to 4/2. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:10:10 -0500 be...@interlog.com writes: Hi, everyone! I've got a question about John Danyel's Like as the Lute Delights. This is a version of it that I found online. http://www.acadiau.ca/~gcallon/www/archive/like.pdf On page three, second bar there is pause after the words her touch, and you can see that the tab denotes the rests, rather than having the word touch held for three beats. Does anyone familiar with this song know if this notation is original? Is Gordon J. Callon on this list-serve, or does anyone know him? Or is there an original source for the tab that can be accessed online? Thanks! Ben S To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Annual list of lute summer schools - can you add anything?
The Links page on the Lute Society of America website has been updated to reflect the advertisers in Vol. 45, no. 4. There are five Summer Seminar opportunities listed. Hope you are able you participate in one of them. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/index.html#supplies Regards, Daniel Heiman On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:46:01 -0500 A. J. Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net writes: Chris asks if you know of any appropriate summer schools not listed here, you let him know at [1]lute...@aol.com and he will include the school when he posts a final list on the web page of the Lute Society (U.K.). Those lute schools are a wonderfujl experience, and you'll make friendships that will last a lifetime. - Original Message - From: [2]lute...@aol.com To: [3]lute...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:53 AM Subject: Annual list of lute summer schools - can you add anything? Dear lute friends Here is my annual list of summer schools which have either a lute tutor or where lutes are welcome, which I am about to put in Lute News magazine, and on the lute society website. At the bottom I have put summer schools which happened last year, but do not seem to have published details for this year. Can you add anything to the list - have I missed any lute weeks or weekends? Teachers!! please check I have got all the details of your course correct. best wishes Chris Goodwin 2011 Mar 25-27 Al manere minstrelsy, with the Dufay Collective, at Jackdaws Music Education Trust, Great Elm, Frome BA11 3NY, tel: 01373 812383 www.jackdaws.org.uk Apr 1-3Songs to the lute and guitar, at West Dean, with Michael Fields, at West Dean College, West Dean, Chichester PO18 0QZ tel 0844 4994408 or from overseas ++44 1243 811301 / fax: 811343 e: short.cour...@westdean.org.ukweb: www.westdean.org.uk Apr 12-19Easter Early Music Course at St George's School Ascot, contact Geri Coop, tel: 07971 388 509 www.easterearlymusiccourse.org.uk Apr 15-17 Lutefest at Benslow, with Jakob Lindberg, Jacob Heringman, Stewart McCoy, Jeni Melia, Sarah Groser, Benslow Music Trust, Little Benslow Hills off Benslow Lane, Hitchin, Herts SG4 9RB. Tel: 01462 459446 (fax: 440171). Email: i...@benslow.org Apr 25-May 1 Musica antica a Monterone/Sestone, Arezzo, with Sigrun Richter. Details: www.sigrunrechter.de, e: li...@sigrunrichter.de tel: ++39 0575 772219 Apr 26 - May 1Benslow Baroque Oratorio, Handel's Theodora, at Benslow Music Trust, contact, as above. Apr 26-29 Renaissance Music at Easter, Wedgwood Memorial College, Stoke on Trent, Contact: 01782 372105 e: wedgewood.memor...@stoke.gov.uk web: www.stoke.gov.uk/wedgewoodmemorialcollege May 11-15 Kloster Schlehdorf, Kurs Alte Musik, with Axel Wolf, Marion Teupel-Franck, tel: ++49 89/ 6012755 e: schlehd...@flautotraverso.de www.flautotraverso.de May 27-29 Music from the Cradle of the Renaissance, with Sarah Stowe, Benslow Music Trust, Little Benslow Hills off Benslow Lane, Hitchin, Herts SG4 9RB. Tel: 01462 459446 (fax: 440171). Email: i...@benslow.org www.benslow.org Jun 2-15 Tafelmusik Baroque Summer Music Institute, with Lucas Harris, lute continuo class, University of Toronto, Canada, tel. ++1 416 964 9562, ext: 241 e: t...@tafelmusik.org web: www.tafelmusik.org Jun 29-July 3 Oberlin baroque performance institute, Back to Bach. Contact: Baroque Performance Institute, Conservatory of Music, 39 West College Street, Oberlin, Ohio 44074 1576, USA, tel: Anna Hoffmann ++1 440 775 8413 /fax: 8942 e: anna.hoffm...@oberlin.edu web: www.oberlin.edu/conservatory/summer/baroque-performance-institute/ Jun 19-25 Mediaeval and Renaissance Workshop Music from the Edges of Music with Tim Rayborn, Sonoma State University, CA, contact: San Francisco Early Music Society, PO Box 27495, Berkeley, CA 94127 0495, USA, tel: ++1 510 528 9808 email: sf...@sfems.org web: www.sfems.org Jun 26-July 2Baroque Music Workshop The Italian Connection incl. baroque orchestra, Sonoma State University, CA, contact: San Francisco Early Music Society, details above. July 2-9International Summer School of Early Music, Valtice, Czech Republic. with Brian Wright,
[LUTE] Phil plays Wall Street
http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/webcasts/videos/music-arts/concerts-at-o ne/rose-ensemble To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes
Martin: There is no way Windows Movie Maker can animate those still photos. In order to do proper video you have to buy a movie camera...;-) Windows Movie Maker is actually quite decent for doing YouTube-quality short clips. Any other program you obtain will probably have the same general structure -- a timeline onto which you drag and drop segments of video, audio, titles, credits, trailers, etc. In my experience there is going to be a considerable learning period no matter what package you use. The best amateur program is probably Vegas, from Sony. It is relatively inexpensive, is available in several versions with different levels of features, and you can download it and try it out for 30 days before you have to pay. By the way, very nice playing on the clip you just posted! Cutting is *not* easy. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:03:04 +0100 Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk writes: (with a little help from Francis Cutting): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMBMGRcRbG0 and considerable hindrance from Windows Movie Maker. Lots of questions about how to do proper video coming up Best wishes, Martin To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Search - Ave Maria/Josquin
Hi, Laura: Josquin obviously composed a number of different settings of the Ave Maria text. According to H. M. Brown (Instrumental Music Printed Before 1600), the original setting for the lute transcription in Phalese 1547(9) is for six voices. The citation for the vocal original is the motet volume of Albert Smijers incomplete complete works of Josquin (1926). No other concordances are provided. This clearly does not provide the fretboard layout or any of the ornamentation added to the lute transcription, but it does give you the underlying piece. Hope that is of some help. Regards, Daniel On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:03:24 -0300 Laura Maschi lmas...@gmail.com writes: Hello, I'm searching for Josquin's Ave Maria, the one published by Phalese in 1547 according too what I have been told. Need help, noone has it locally Does anyone have a shareable - free copy of this? thank you very much! Laura -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: books of BLANK tablature
You can still print your own, punch the pages and put them into three-ring binders (or whatever other configuration you prefer). See the first section of the page here: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/index.html Daniel Heiman On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:01:26 -0400 Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca writes: Sorry, folks, I meant books of blank tablature (not bland tablature!) Brad To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Crawford Young
Does anyone have a current e-mail address for Crawford? Please send to me privately. Thanks, Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] LSA Lute Festival Seminar
At this point we have concert programs posted for more than half of the individual performances. See the Seminars page at http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org Come and join us for a week of great music! Regards, Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: My god...my lute is on strike!
Omar: 1) Are the strings all breaking at the same place (i.e. all breaking at the point they cross over the nut)? If so, check for roughness at that location. 2) Whose strings are you buying? It may be that you have received a weak batch from your supplier try a different source. 3) What material are you using? If gut, try a Nylgut chanterelle for the Summer. The sound of the chanterelle is usually the least dependent on the material of which it is made. Daniel On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:27:54 +0300 Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com writes: It goes like this, Yesterday I drove to the other side of the country with my 10c, she never goes out unless i'm going to a lesson, and it was hot day, very hot day. First I wanted to tune, and *SNAP* first string snapped right on my face. Lucky for me, I had two more strings with me, so I tried to replace it. But, my lute didn't wanted to... these strings also snapped and the peg gave me hard time spinning it. Finally we gave up and played on Levi's lute (which is also 10c, but much different then mine) I said ok, she might need some rest, so I wanted to replace that string today, and give her a rest until tomorrow. But no! she still don't want the string on her, snapped again, right into my eye! The heat, and the cold also changed my frets, which is bad...but I can handle the frets. I can't handle to be stringless. Any suggestions on how to solve the strike? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Whodunit?
Who is the lutenist in this? http://www.youtube.com/v/otrLM1FmbXk Looks to me like it might be Ron Andrico, but it is hard to tell with the hazy focus and his being mostly at the distorted edge of the field of view. Daniel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Whodunit?
Thanks, Jean-Marie. The guitarist is identified by name as William Simms in this video: http://vimeo.com/2839822 and, although he gets amazingly little screen time, he does appear very briefly at 2:45 and 6:15. It is obvious that this is the same person as in my query. Regards, Daniel On Wed, 26 May 2010 13:13:46 +0200 Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr writes: Same balditude with Bill Simms and he is recorded as a regular member of Appolo's Fire, the ensemble featured in this video. On Vimeo there is another video of the same ensemble, and apparently the same concert, where Bill Simms is indicated and seen towards the end, as playing baroque guitar. So I would definitely vote Bill Simms (much less risky than some other votes...;-) Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 26-05-2010, 11:59:18 == Bill Carter, judging by the balditude. RT - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:43 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: hodunit? Could be William Simms, imho... best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 26-05-2010, 10:10:39 == Who is the lutenist in this? http://www.youtube.com/v/otrLM1FmbXk Looks to me like it might be Ron Andrico, but it is hard to tell with the hazy focus and his being mostly at the distorted edge of the field of view. Daniel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- - Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. N¶®¶-±ST¢?ÿÁj¢yÁ-iYu --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
[LUTE] Re: New Youtube links
Martin: The Duo tutti di fantasia is in both versions of Fronimo (1568/9 and 1584). It appears in mensural notation rather than tab. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176.image.hl.r=fronimo.f87.langE N.pagination If you make a performing edition, please feel free to send it to me for posting on the Fronimo page: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/associated/Galilei/index.html Regards, Daniel On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:59:09 + Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk writes: Dear Jean-Marie, Excellent! I really liked the playing and the video - it's good to have the close-ups! Dare I ask for any technical information about the equipment you used? Strangely, I didn't know the Galilei piece. Is it in Il Fronimo (1584)? Best wishes, Martin Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Just a quick reminder to let you know that I have uploaded 3 vids on Youtube, 3 lute duets by A Due Liuti, i.e. Thierry Meunier and yours truly. Hope you enjoy them. They all appear on our duet CD En despit des faulx mesdisans. Please have a look at : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kIxQs-6mF4 : a Dump by J. Johnson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-U35Z3Ow4 : Canono by F. da Milano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMjm_1SpDTw : Duo tutti di fantasia by V. Galilei All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.
The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from the pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault. May I suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the LSA? (See the website for details.) Spring is also good, but he focuses pretty closely on the British Isles. Daniel Heiman On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0500 Christopher Stetson cstet...@smith.edu writes: Hi, Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good ensuing discussion. It leads me to another question, that came up as I was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit: are there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that predate the first printed books? Thanks again, Chris. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Paul Live in Valdagno 1992
There are now 4 segments on this guy's Youtube page. Looks like he is intending to post the whole concert. [1]http://www.youtube.com/user/pelandroide62#p/u/0/k0Rz27lLECM Regards, Daniel Heiman -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/user/pelandroide62#p/u/0/k0Rz27lLECM To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] LSA Summer Seminar Registration Open
Seminar Director Phil Rukavina has put together a very nice program for the 2010 LSA Summer Seminar, and descriptive material together with a registration form are posted on the Seminars page of the LSA website. Please join us for a week of immersion in all things lute at the end of June. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org Regards, Daniel Heiman LSA Webmaster To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Viola-Matic
Decidedly off-topic, but something to think about for folks performing under less than ideal weather conditions. With a matched set of fluorocarbon strings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf2w2zMNvzE *This is a real playable musical instrument.* (Not quite as inexpensive as the tag line suggests.) Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: plucked (and plonked) trio
Some nice photos from the LSA Lute Festival concert are here http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2006/CYoungConcert.html http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2006/CYoungConcertPhotos.ht ml Unfortunately I have been unable to get Crawford to choose some of the audio clips so I can post them. Margit was very nice about granting permission. She can also be heard very prominently (and seen in the background -- only person standing other than Philippe) in this amusing video of Christine Pluhar's organization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-VsKB_tNw Regards, Daniel On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:52:41 -0700 Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com writes: Hi Stuart, Margit actually flew out to the LSA seminar in Ohio a few years ago to play duos with Crawford. Yes, it's in the hammered dulcimer family, yep, sure sounds great and believable in that context and, oh yeah, is she ever in control! It looks like a pretty versatile instrument and very overlooked. I'd think most of the lute rep would be available: certainly tenors with whomever, formal ensemble music and I'm sure they made solo arrangements of popular vocal or ensemble music. The latter could range from tenor-contrapunto settings, to (mostly) strict 3-part settings of their own --just like the lute rep. Furthermore, if its metal strings and good simple solid body was as portable as the lute and twice as durable I'm sure there were those that took advantage and specialized in it. There's a guy here in Berkeley who's been playing one on street corners for 30 years. I'm pretty sure that for some of it it was keeping him fed. A tradition that goes back centuries, if not millenia, in hammered dulcimer circles. Sean On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: http://www.lewon.de/inhalt/projekte/ensembles_dulce.php?navbat=03 Ont this page, under 'Tonbeispiele' there are three pieces, including one by Obrecht, 'Nec mihi nec tibi'. Jon Banks claims that this Obrecht untexted chanson was actually conceived and composed for three plucked instruments but here in this Ensemble Dulce Melos version the three instruments are: ? at least one plucked thing and, surprisingly what seems to be a hammered dulcimer. The three instruments create a strange sound; very nice, very beguiling. I was really surprised to hear a hammered dulcimer (if it is one) in this context (of quite sophisticated polyphony) and the as can be heard, the player (Margit Übellacker) is in complete command. The instrument Margit Übellacker is playing is described as a dulce melos, after Henri Arnault de Zwolle: fully chromatic over 3 octaves. But Margit sounds like she is playing with hammers and Henri is definitely sniffy about hammers and his dulce melos proper has an elaborate keyboard mechanism. Iconography of 15th century hammered dulcimers suggests long, thin instruments with a limited range but Margit's instrument looks a monster by contrast. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Brazilian duet a la Dowland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays Daniel To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Recording yourself
Ned: The main reason for choosing a webcam rather than a video camera is obvious: price. Webcams can be purchased for less than $50. But again, obviously, there is going to be a tradeoff for that low price, and that comes in the lower resolution and lower image quality of webcam output vs. that from a hand-held video camera. A typical webcam may only put out 640x480 images as its native resolution, and anything higher must be interpolated, leading to pixelation. The sensor in a webcam may also use CMOS technology rather than the CCD technology that is more-or-less standard in a video camera, so the dynamic range (light to dark) will be somewhat less. The software package you get with the webcam should allow you to capture video of your playing to a computer, but check the specs before you purchase. Older computers may impose limitations as well, in not being able to handle the data stream effectively. Anything with a USB2 port should be fine. Daniel Heiman On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:38:11 EDT nedma...@aol.com writes: I've found it helpul to make audio recordings of pieces I'm working on. Now I'd like to add video, which I think would be even more helpful. I could buy a video camera, but am wondering if a webcam would allow me to record directly to - and view on - my computer. Anyone out there doing this, or have ideas on the best procedure? Ned __ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Welcome to the Lute mailing list!
Indeed, the file of transcriptions from Siena posted to the Fronimo site by Jason Kortis (and containing Doug Towne's work in addition to his own) stopped at f. 69v. The Spagna pieces are on ff. 74v-76r. The facsimile is well worth purchasing, even at 120 Euros or so. The musical material is wonderful, and the information on the concordances, done by Arthur Ness, is extremely valuable. Daniel Heiman On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:16:41 +0200 Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de writes: where can I find the 4 modis of Spagna detta Lamire from the Siena Lutebook? I think Jason Kortis entabulated most,if not all the Siena Lute book into French Tab and it was on the Fronimo site (Yahoo groups). I think NOT the Spagna :-( B. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Welcome to the Lute mailing list!
Anton: The Siena Lute Book is available in facsimile, published by Minkoff: http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/minkoff.pdf Purchase information here: http://www.omifacsimiles.com/contactomi.html Regards, Daniel Heiman On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:39:05 +0200 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Anton_H=F6ger?= diwa-animat...@t-online.de writes: Hello, this is my first posting: where can I find the 4 modis of Spagna detta Lamire from the Siena Lutebook? Many thanks in advance Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tune Index
Leonard: You are probably looking for the Music Supplement to Lute News 68 (December 2003). That contains Craus Recercars on p. 8 and p. 22 Regards, Daniel Heiman On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:33:39 -0400 Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net writes: Is there an index of pieces published in the (British) Lute Society Quarterly? I'm looking for a piece by Craus (recercar?) that I'm sure I found in there, and I'd would like some hints before I go wading through my collection. Thanks and regards, Leonard Williams To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Easy duets
Rod: On the website of the Lute Society of America there are a few duets, which you may or may not be consider easy. Go to [1]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org 1) select the Publications page, and the section entitled Editons contains two English duets edited by Lyle Nordstrom 2) select the Lute Projects page, and on the Fronimo Project page under that, the Modern Editions section contains a canonic duet entitled Fuga a l'unisono dopo sei tempi. In fact also the first one on the list, the [2]Cantilene `a 2, could very easily be deconstructed into a simple piece for two lutes, since it is very strictly written as a two voice fantasia. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:52:48 +0100 Rod [3]sally...@tiscali.co.uk writes: Folks, Can you recommend any easy duets for 2 beginners. We are currently massacaring the Almane form the Sampson/Toellemache. Similare pieces either in French Tab or guitar arrangements would be welcome. cheers, Rod To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 2. file://localhost/net/people/lute-arc/012-Duo-DT.pdf 3. mailto:sally...@tiscali.co.uk 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Re: [LUTE] Re: München 266
The images are really high resolution, so they print up very nicely. Danke schön! Daniel Heiman On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:31:53 +0200 Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de writes: http://www.file-upload.net/download-1636531/Munich-ms266.pdf.html ..seems to be a hit :-)) Already 150 downloads in 12 hours. Ok, some may have downloaded it several times to have some copies :-) B. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Elias Mertel
OMI still lists the facsimile at $162. It is generally quite legible, requiring no transcription. http://omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf (page 17 of this catalog) Daniel On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:21:18 -0500 Stephen Arndt stephenar...@earthlink.net writes: Dear All, Goeran Crona has gifted us with a wonderful transcription of Elias Mertels preludes and phantasies from the Hortus musicalis novus. Since he produced his work to make this music accessible to guitarists, however, the basses are often transposed up an octave. I am interested in acquiring a version of the entire work with the basses at the original pitch. Apart from Richard Darsies selections, which I already have, the only thing I have been able to find is the Hortus musicalis novus1615 Tablature de luth franc,aise. Preludes, fantaisies et fugues offered by the Maison de Musique Ancienne in Paris for 114 euros. (They also have two other volumes, which I suspect are Richard Darsies, for 25 euros each.) I have written to inquire about this edition, but my e-mails to the address given on their website (i...@musiqueancienne) keep bouncing back. Does anyone have a working e-mail address for them? Also, do any of you have this edition, and, if so, can you tell me whether it is complete or a group of selections? Does anyone know of an outlet in the States that might carry it (I wasnt able to find one)? Does anyone know of another edition (German tablature would be fine, since I wont be playing from it but only adding an 8 to Goerans transcription to indicate the lower basses)? I would appreciate any information anyone could give me. Many thanks, Stephen Arndt -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Toyota Theorbo for rent, low mileage
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:59:30 +0100 Mark Wheeler l...@pantagruel.de writes: snip It seems that the 2 main factors for the trend of toy theorbos (more a definition of usage than size) and single strung archlutes are the availability of modern string materials and the size of car boots. Both of which are not evil, just modern factors that did not exist in the past. All the best Mark Mark: It is clear that if you have some imagination or ingenuity, the size of your theorbo is not limited by the size of your automobile... http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2006/Departure.html (Scroll down to the third and fourth photos.) Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?
Arthur: The files are at the top of my Member page where it says You added 3 songs, and are labeled jeune##.pdf. If you select one of the link buttons to the left of the filename with the right mouse button and choose Open in a new window... or Save file as.. as Sean suggests, it should load correctly. The files are the same ones you saw in 1989, except that they have been converted to PDF format.. Daniel On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:47:34 -0500 Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can confirm what Daniel says. I too use SCORE, and all of the music and the tablature (for the Marco pieces) was done with that program. The prgram is built so that it would be easy to directly change the Italian tabature into French. Daniel has been particularly resourceful in selecting appropriate type for French tablature. I saw some of his work many years ago. I can't find the example he mentions on his web page. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= - Original Message - From: Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:20 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users? | Since the discussion is about music printing and publishing software, I | have to put in my 2 cents worth. | | I can claim that I am a programmer also, since I write (sometimes sloppy) | HTML, but this entry method (as in alexander's message below) is way too | much hassle for me. I will contend (and defend this contention to | whatever length someone desires in a debate) that SCORE is the ultimate | program for setting high quality tablature. Yes, Fronimo is a reasonably | well-thought-out tablature program, and Francesco has done a marvelous | job of creating beautiful and highly legible fonts, but Fronimo still | lacks the flexibility necessary for high-quality publishing, and SCORE | had that already more than twenty years ago. | | Output I created in 1989 is here: | http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/Libertylute | Yes, I know that PDF files were not around then, but the PostScript files | I just converted into these PDFs bear creation dates of 16 July 1989. | This transcription was done a few weeks after I acquired the program, so | I used a standard font (Zapf Chancery). Remember, you couldn't just | download any font you want off the Internet in those days -- it took a | while to locate and purchase ware back then. I was obviously not | completely satisfied with the solution for the d tablature character, | since I used a couple of different versions. Now days, lots of nice tab | fonts are available, and it is much less difficult to create your own | than it was then. The point here is the spacing of the music and the | page layout in general. Any almost infinitesimal variation in staff size | and placement is available. Any almost infinitesimal variation in the | size and location of any object on the staff is available. Each object on | the page, including each character, has its own parameters, and they are | editable by the user. The horizontal spacing of the ojects on a staff is | done with a simple letter command (LJ, for line up and justify), | generating this effortless-appearing layout. | | Regards, | Daniel Heiman | | On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:54:24 -0500 alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lilypond is not in the lute tablature business. However, the | abctab2ps - is. For the love of VIm - it is perfect. This file: | | X:1 | T:Lacrimae | C:Dowland, 1600 | L:1/4 | M:C| | K:Bb | %%pageheight 11 in | %%staffwidth 7.7 in | %%titlespace 0.2 in | %%musicspace 0.2 in | %%staffsep 0.5 in | %%systemsep 0.5 in | %%indent 0.5 in | %%leftmargin .5 in | %%tabfontsize 11 | %%tabfontscale 1.4 | %%barnumbers 0 | %%scale 0.7 | %%taballflags=f | %%strictness1 0.5 | % | V:1 clef=alto name=Viol | V:2 clef=frenchtab name=Lute | % | %System 1 | [V:1] g3 f/e/ d2 b4 a g ^f4 | g2 d3 dff | e2 c2 d3 a | b2g2a2f2 | g1 | b3/2 a/ g1 ^f2 b2 | | [V:2] [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b ,,d2 | [,aa,c] ,a |\ | [,,bcca1] ,a a ,a [,d,,,d/],b,a,,d [,ab,,d1] ,,a | | [,,d,a] ,,b [,,a,d] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,,,c ,,,b2 |\ | [,,,c,a1] ,a3/2 ,,d/ [,abc],c [,daa1] ,,d [,aa,c2]| [,,,cd1] | ,a ,,d2 [,aa,c] [,ab,,d1] ,d | | %System 2 | [V:1] a g g3 ^f/=e/ ^f2 | g8 || \ | g/G/B/c/ d/e/c/d/ B/c/A/B/ G/A/B/c/ d/c/B/A/ G/A//B// A/G/ | [V:2] [,bd,a] ,,b [,,ded] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,a2 ,,d1 |\ | [,,ccca3/2] ,b/ ,a ,,d ,,c ,,a [,ac,,a1] ,,,c ,a2 ||\ | [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b | %System 3 | [V:1] ^F/D/[K:bass]A/d/ D/[K:alto]d//c// d//c//B//A// |\ | B//A//G//F// G//F//G//A// B/A/ G//A//B//c// d//c//B//A// | B//c//d//e// f/e/ d//f//e//d// |\ | e/d/ e//d//c//B// c/d/e/c/ | [V:2] ,,d2 [,aa,c
[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?
Since the discussion is about music printing and publishing software, I have to put in my 2 cents worth. I can claim that I am a programmer also, since I write (sometimes sloppy) HTML, but this entry method (as in alexander's message below) is way too much hassle for me. I will contend (and defend this contention to whatever length someone desires in a debate) that SCORE is the ultimate program for setting high quality tablature. Yes, Fronimo is a reasonably well-thought-out tablature program, and Francesco has done a marvelous job of creating beautiful and highly legible fonts, but Fronimo still lacks the flexibility necessary for high-quality publishing, and SCORE had that already more than twenty years ago. Output I created in 1989 is here: http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/Libertylute Yes, I know that PDF files were not around then, but the PostScript files I just converted into these PDFs bear creation dates of 16 July 1989. This transcription was done a few weeks after I acquired the program, so I used a standard font (Zapf Chancery). Remember, you couldn't just download any font you want off the Internet in those days -- it took a while to locate and purchase ware back then. I was obviously not completely satisfied with the solution for the d tablature character, since I used a couple of different versions. Now days, lots of nice tab fonts are available, and it is much less difficult to create your own than it was then. The point here is the spacing of the music and the page layout in general. Any almost infinitesimal variation in staff size and placement is available. Any almost infinitesimal variation in the size and location of any object on the staff is available. Each object on the page, including each character, has its own parameters, and they are editable by the user. The horizontal spacing of the ojects on a staff is done with a simple letter command (LJ, for line up and justify), generating this effortless-appearing layout. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:54:24 -0500 alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lilypond is not in the lute tablature business. However, the abctab2ps - is. For the love of VIm - it is perfect. This file: X:1 T:Lacrimae C:Dowland, 1600 L:1/4 M:C| K:Bb %%pageheight 11 in %%staffwidth 7.7 in %%titlespace 0.2 in %%musicspace 0.2 in %%staffsep 0.5 in %%systemsep 0.5 in %%indent 0.5 in %%leftmargin .5 in %%tabfontsize 11 %%tabfontscale 1.4 %%barnumbers 0 %%scale 0.7 %%taballflags=f %%strictness1 0.5 % V:1 clef=alto name=Viol V:2 clef=frenchtab name=Lute % %System 1 [V:1] g3 f/e/ d2 b4 a g ^f4 | g2 d3 dff | e2 c2 d3 a | b2g2a2f2 | g1 b3/2 a/ g1 ^f2 b2 | [V:2] [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b ,,d2 [,aa,c] ,a |\ [,,bcca1] ,a a ,a [,d,,,d/],b,a,,d [,ab,,d1] ,,a | [,,d,a] ,,b [,,a,d] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,,,c ,,,b2 |\ [,,,c,a1] ,a3/2 ,,d/ [,abc],c [,daa1] ,,d [,aa,c2]| [,,,cd1] ,a ,,d2 [,aa,c] [,ab,,d1] ,d | %System 2 [V:1] a g g3 ^f/=e/ ^f2 | g8 || \ g/G/B/c/ d/e/c/d/ B/c/A/B/ G/A/B/c/ d/c/B/A/ G/A//B// A/G/ [V:2] [,bd,a] ,,b [,,ded] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,a2 ,,d1 |\ [,,ccca3/2] ,b/ ,a ,,d ,,c ,,a [,ac,,a1] ,,,c ,a2 ||\ [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b %System 3 [V:1] ^F/D/[K:bass]A/d/ D/[K:alto]d//c// d//c//B//A// |\ B//A//G//F// G//F//G//A// B/A/ G//A//B//c// d//c//B//A// B//c//d//e// f/e/ d//f//e//d// |\ e/d/ e//d//c//B// c/d/e/c/ [V:2] ,,d2 [,aa,c] ,a |\ [,,bcca1] ,a a ,a [,d,,,d/],b,a,,d [,ab,,d1] ,,a | [,,d,a] ,,b [,,a,d] ,,,c %System 4 [V:1] d/A/^F/D/ [K:bass] D/d/ a/g//a// |\ b/g/d/G/ [K:alto] G/B/A/B/ A/G/F/E/ D/A/G/A/ | G//A//B//c// d//e//f//d// g//f//e//d// e//d//c//B// A/[K:bass]D/^f/A/ [K:alto] d/=f/e/d/ | [V:2] [,,a,c] ,,,c ,,,b2 |\ [,,,c,a1] ,a3/2 ,,d/ [,abc] ,c [,daa1] ,,d [,aa,c2] | [,,,cd1] ,a ,,d2 [,aa,c] [,ab,,d1] ,d | %System 5 [V:1] e//d//c//B// c//G//A//=B// c//_B//A//G// A//B//c//B// A//G//^F//=E// D AG/A/ | G\ g3-g/d/=B/G/ G2 || [K:alto] b3 a g f b3 a/g/ a2 | [V:2] [,bd,a] ,,b [,,ded] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,a2 ,,d1 | [,,ccca3/2] ,b/ ,a ,,d ,,c ,,a [,ac,,a1] ,,,c ,a2 || [,dff,d4] [,aba,d2] [,dbad] [,,,ca1] ,b ,,d d |] produces this result: http://wa4.images.onesite.com/vokaria.onesite.com/large/lachrimaeclipped. jpg?v=156150 There are different fonts available etc. http://www.lautengesellschaft.de/cdmm/ alexander Luca Manassero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. I guess one needs to do some really serious tweaking to get a lute-like tablature output, thou. Best, Luca To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Baroque lute in......Saskatoon?
For some reason I did not receive the original message to which the message below is a reply. I just spent last week in Saskatoon on a errand unrelated to music. Nevertheless, I was able to get together with Travis Carey one evening and play duets for a couple of hours. Travis is a luthier who currently lives about two hours drive north of Saskatoon. However, 1) I am pretty sure he does not currently have a Baroque lute available, and 2) he is moving to Vancouver next week for an extended period to work in the shop with Grant Tomlinson. By the way, the weather was gorgeous -- warm and sunny -- all week; almost always warmer than it was in the Chicago area at the same time. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:11:08 +0200 David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2008/10/7 Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear all, I'm giving a paper at a conference in Saskatoon (Canada) for which I need a baroque lute .. details of this very interesting conference on things French baroque. What an utterly cool, and probably equally cold, conference! The list of lectures reads like something out of Monthy Python. ;-) Wish I could be there, just to be amazed. Will there be something like this next year, again? I hope to be picking up my own baroque lute in Canada by then, alas for you left-handed, but you can twist my arm to play your examples. ;-) David -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Where is the oldest?
Joshua: Answers to questions like that may be found by checking the Lautenweltadressbuch on the LSA website. (It is one of the Lute Projects.) Searching in the year field, typing in '150' brings up three instruments that apparently may have been made before 1510. Two are in a private collection if Vienna, Austria, and one is in Copenhagen. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know where the oldest surviving lute is? - and how old it is? Joshua To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Javob Hes
On the website of the Cité de la Musique there are several nice photos. Unfortunately, there is no good way to provide a URL to get you there directly. So, go to the main collections page here: http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/masc/ On the left, select Collections du Musée then Instruments et oeuvres d'art then on the search page enter luth in the box labeled Mot-clé(s) : and enter Hes in the box labeled Facteur, auteur ou sujet : and finally click on Rechercher at the bottom It is a very nice instrument. The first lute I purchased was based on that model, and it is still my favorite. Daniel Heiman On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Henry Villca [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear friends, Does anyone have pictures of the lute Jacob Hes (1586) is the one that is in Paris, unfortnatelly I could not se that instrument because the museum is closed till next year. Thank you !! Warm Regards Henry. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Click to receive information from occupational therapy schools near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3l6xtMkFQNakw879KkrVSZXUSYIugLf8Zr9xBBvBccK4uKMv/ --
[LUTE] LSA Seminar reports solicited
If you attended the 2008 LSA Summer Seminar a few weeks ago, we would like to have your photos and written impressions of the courses and concerts you attended included in the summary of the event to be published in the August issue of the Quarterly (particularly if you are one of those who raised your hand to volunteer during the general meeting, but even if you are not). Material needs to be received by the 18th of July. Please submit hard copy writeup or photos on CD to the editor for that issue, Jocelyn Nelson School of Music 336 Fletcher Music Center East Carolina University Greenville, NC 27858 or preferably by e-mail at the address for her posted on the about LSA page of our website. I would also welcome photos (ideally with captions or descriptive material included) for inclusion in the overview on the LSA Website. Regards, Daniel Heiman http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org Beauty Advice Just Got a Makeover Read reviews about the beauty products you have always wanted to try http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UzvNCTv0Oh2b655urFvX6USB2RHBDlu91JNCMg2YLxjQNR/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Quartet on BBC Early music show
Speaking of lute quartets, the Venere Lute Quartet concert page from the recent Lute Festival on the LSA website now has sound clips available. (Some of the other concerts are getting sound files attached as well, and a few pictures are now in place.) See the Seminars page. Daniel Heiman On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:30 +0200 G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting stuff on Digital Radio this week: On Sunday's edition there is a segment with a lute quartet playing Kapsberger between ca. min. 18:00 and lasting to ca. 26:00 at http://tinyurl.com/5sksk Also the Saturday show is semi-relevant with a program about musicians at the court of Christian IV also Dowland (Lacrimae of course) at ca. min. 21:00 played by Fretwork and with madrigal performances by a.o. Anthony Rooley's Consort and the Hilliard Ensemble, organ music at Roskilde, a.s.o. G. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Need cash? Click to get a cash advance. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKetUPvdElNV9Y57flwUXkL0tDtcpfTsP1Gb9KA2IVxFjyf/
[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
Jean-Marie: I think I understand what is going on. Although the site is again open, a large majority of the music is still unavailable. Only a few of the files I tried to access actually downloaded; the rest generated a message saying that the file is still blocked. Try Attaingnant (Deux Livres d'Orgue) and see if that works for you. Daniel Heiman On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:07:59 +0200 Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ??? Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. ;-))) Best, Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe g ! ) === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 === No problems on my end. XP. RT - Original Message - From: Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; The Other [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles. I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP and the official Acrobat reader... B. Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported. Check out http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats to see if you have a compatible PDF reader. On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or whatever... Is it the same with you ? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 03.07.2008 19:19 --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://poirierjm.free.fr 04-07-2008 Click now for huge savings on quality flooring materials! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nHbbC1F8vWYKsfUk1YDVyI7mfXMFrJgOg3o6LtObACOC3lt/
[LUTE] Re: Ronn McFarlane to perform in Cleveland
Umm, according to the posted schedule, Ronn's concert is actually on Wednesday evening, 25 June at 7:30 PM, in Harkness Chapel on the campus of Case Western Univesity. Daniel Heiman On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:11:23 -0400 Suzanne Konefal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Be sure to check out Ronn McFarlane - performing live on Sunday June 22nd as part of the Lute Society of America Summer Seminar, in Cleveland, OHIO!! Suzanne Konefal Director of Marketing and Business Development Dorian Recordings / Sono Luminus 540-592-3677 www.dorian.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Get Organized! Latest in Closet Organizers. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nV89YfAYLB3xsUQOeZvMKGKF6nuISJS0C5uDd0zbSw5upBN/
[LUTE] LSA Seminar update
Please note that advance registration is now closed for the LSA Seminar starting next weekend. You are still cordially invited to attend, since registrations will be accepted on site, and single tickets will be available for each of the concerts, if you are unable to find time to participate in the whole event. Most of the concert programs are now on line on the Seminars page of the LSA website. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org Regards, Daniel Heiman Planning for retirement? Click for free information on 401(k) plans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKKfjSMxxBcnWos6uv2Bt31BjY5cSZFmEhbah1hkCadyykP/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Frets
Andrew: This whole thread has been fascinating to me. Sorry I have not had the time to participate earlier. Since I created the spreadsheet, one might logically ask which fret placement system I use. The answer is, none of the above. I have set my frets empirically, according to what sounds good to me. I just measured my 55 cm 7-course, the instrument I play most frequently, and got the following numbers (nearest half mm), with indications in parentheses as to which historical temperament most closely matches that value: 1st, 2.85 cm (Kepler tastino) 2nd, 5.75 (Aron meantone) 3rd, 8.7 (Equal temperament!) 4th, 10.95 (Aron meantone/both Mersenne) 5th, 13.7 (both Mersenne/Werckmeister) 6th, 15.85 (Silbermann 1/6th comma) 7th, 18.1 (Aron meantone) 8th 20.05 (Silbermann 1/6th comma) Keep in mind that the fret placement interacts strongly with how you set the piteh intervals between the strings in determining the frequency generated by any given string/fret combination, so that you cannot just tune each string off an equal-tempered electronic box and expect any historical temperament to sound good. For example, I take a reference pitch for the 6th course and tune the 4th course/2nd fret to an exact octave above that, so the 2nd fret placement determines the 6th/4th course interval. I then tune the 2nd course 3rd fret from the open 4th course (maybe not quite so exactly), so the 6th/2nd course interval is determined by the placement of both the 2nd and 3rd frets. I am kind of out of time, but I will try to continue this evening. Daniel On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:08:58 +0100 Andrew Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Sean - that is helpful. I've yet to experiment with tastini. Apart from ET, the only other fret positioning system I use is Gerle's (as given in the handy Excel sheet on the American Lute Society web site). I have to say I'm not sure exactly what this is - some kind of mean-tone other than quarter- comma? or an irregular system like the much later Mersenne and Werckmeister 'well temperaments'? Andrew On 13 May 2008, at 17:46, Sean Smith wrote: Dear Andrew, Yes, theoretically. But meantone's saving grace on the ren lute is that the keys of G, C, and their minors use much of the same keyboard so you don't really have to change any fret positions (mostly white keys on the piano w/ a few Bb's and Cb's). So you're essentially safe in 85% of the music --w/ a few exceptions of course. But. When you move to a key in A or Amin, E and Emin, Fmin and Bbmin, then things start to get wonky (ie, a lot of flats or sharps). Think about that 1st course, 1st fret. If you're playing an Ab on it you're ok for most of the rep. If you need to play a G# that means the fret has to be in the other position (closer to the nut: the tastini position). Same goes for 2nd course, 1st fret: if you're playing an Eb, that's fine usually but if it needs to be a D# you have to put the fret in the tastini position again. I know this is a generalized way of looking at only one small aspect of meanton on the lute. And I don't mean this at all to be applicable to the baroque lute whatsoever. I hope this helps in some small way. Sean On May 13, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Andrew Gibbs wrote: The whole idea of moveable frets allowed relatively easy shifts between temperaments? e.g. mid-concert between a suite of pieces in one key and the next suite in another? Andrew -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Flat-back lute
from Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010W6JAW/sr=8-5/qid=1210334643/ref=olp _product_details?ie=UTF8me=qid=1210334643sr=8-5 Product Description This 15 string, eight course, Flat Back lute has a rosewood body, and ebony tuning pegs. The movable nylon frets are tied on. The solid spruce soundboard is decorated with an attractive center rosette. It comes with a traveling black nylon case and the Learning to Play the Lute book by DeGroodt.The Flat Back LUTE has frets and measures 23 1/2 inches from the nut to the bridge. The peg box measures 9 1/2 inches. It is 10 inches at it widest point and measures 2.5 inches deep. This size lute is not so difficult to play, especially if you already know a few things on a guitar. Has anyone seen one of these in person? Are they made in Pakistan like the EMS lutes? Any impressions on the action or quality of sound? Daniel Heiman -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: museums online with instrument pics/descriptions
Stuart: For North America, see the Links page on the LSA website. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org Daniel Heiman - Original Message - From: Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, 26 April, 2008 4:47 AM Subject: [LUTE] museums online with instrument pics/descriptions I've lost all my references to museums that have images and descriptions of instruments (lutes/citterns and guitars etc) I've remembered: http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/masc/?URL=http://mediatheque.cite-musi que.fr/clientbooklineCIMU/toolkit/p_requests/default-catalogue.htm and http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/ and they are both superb. I'm sure there are more. Has anyone got a useful list? Stuart -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Extravaganza (OT)
The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality performances. In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed to engage young people and the general public. I participated in something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a lot of fun to do. Pictures here: http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008 .htm Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row. Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Forqueray
Antoine Forqueray La Couperin on viol + archlute. http://www.youtube.com/v/Av20FgeJIokhl Passionate playing. Looks like it may be copyrighted material, so catch it quick before it disappears. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] If in New York 26 March
If you are in New York, Wednesday 26 March, you might possibly be interested in a lecture/demonstration at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, on their collection of musical instruments. Their holdings include a number of historical lutes and other plucked strings, though the highlight of the demonstration will be their Amati violin. More information at: http://www.metmuseum.org/TICKETS/calendar/view.asp?id=2231 Regards, Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?
David: Maybe this guy's guitar-playing friends are all as uninformed about lutes as he is, and the only lute any of them has ever purchased is one of the Pakistani approximations available in quantity on E-Bay. Apparently those are indeed unplayable as received (I have never seen one) and might well burst and crack under the slightest sort of stress or temperature or humidity change. Daniel On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:52:21 -0500 David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was given a comprehensive lecture the other day on the complete worthlessness of all lutes. This was in conversation with a guitar repair specialist I happened to be talking to, because he recently did a fret job on my Martin D18. He did a great job BTW, but somehow we got on the subject of lutes. Lutes, he said, are overpriced, poorly made, they have a shelf-life of between 5 and 10 years; they burst, they crack, they're completely unplayable even when they're new. Why else do you think so few lutes have survived? he asked: they all break down! I get all the lutes in my workshop! They all end up in my workshop for repair! What surprised me about this conversation was that this particular gentleman is extremely highly thought of in guitar circles! He's considered among the best of the best among guitar repairmen. He continued dissing lutes in general for some time, and I just sat there listening. Then I told him my own perspective on the subject, and mentioned by name Lawrence K. Brown, who I said has made a number of lutes for me, and is in my view a master lute builder who has my complete confidence and admiration. The guitar repairman had never heard of him. He was also very surprised to hear me say that every lute maker I know will stand by his own work. What this conversation implied to me was that a lot of guitarists who buy lutes do not know how to take proper care of them. Is there such a thing as a handbook of proper lute care? There are plenty of books for sale out there telling how to take proper care of guitars, and just about anything else. Any suggestions about what should be included in a handbook of proper lute care for the novice buyer? David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at w.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Vuestros ojos
Only 800 views in over 5 months??? This performance is outstanding and deserves to be much better known: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ81bbG-khM Daniel Heiman To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: recording with ZOOM H2
Wolfgang: The audio quality seems to be about as good as MP3 gets. Were you using built-in microphones? The message says you are singing bass in the Amaryllis vocal consort. Who played the lute on the Dowland? Daniel Heiman On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:14:58 +0100 wolfgang wiehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi all, if someone is interested. i got the ZOOM 2H today and did my first recording (work in progress :-). it is easy to handle. look at: http://www.esnips.com/web/lautenklang/ greetings w. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Good Friday music
Charles: To amplify my one-word reply of this morning (when I was late for work): Heinrich Schütz: Some sections from the Seven Last Words, if you can't take the time to do the whole work. The chorus sections are in 5 voices, so you would have to come up with another tenor. A so-so edition is here: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Die_Sieben_Worte_Jesu_Christi_am_Kreuz %2C_SWV_478_%28Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz%29 The general sentiment is on target with the motet Es ist allhier ein Jammertal, but for this you would need to come up with 2 extra singers, since this is six voices, SSATTB. Partial edition here: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Musikalische_Exequien:_Part_I%2C_No._1 4_-_Es_ist_allhier_ein_Jammertal_%28Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz%29 In the other direction, a piece having only two parts is Erhöre mich, wenn ich rufe. The specification is for two sopranos, but pieces like this generally work quite well with soprano + tenor -- I have done a number of them that way with my wife. Your 4 singers might even pull it off with two on each part. See the following page: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Erh%C3%B6re_mich%2C_wenn_ich_rufe%2C_S WV_289_%28Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz%29 Regards, Daniel Heiman On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:20:49 - Charles Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear all, I would be grateful for suggestions, and music, for a Good Friday Service. We have a quartet of singers (SATB) and I accompany on an archlute. The service is meditative and we sing and play from the back of the church. Thanks for your help Charles it's a long winding road without a map and compass. {MRY6STVMNzY9Gl7wis} To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] What is it?
Is this thing, identified variously as a lute (which it is in the organological sense of the word) or an ud (of which it is certainly not a typical example), a one-off creation, or is it part of some standard instrument-making tradition in eastern Europe or Asia? http://www.civilization.ca/tresors/immigration/im0300be.html Daniel Heiman -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute book lullaby for SATB
Rainer: I know of at least two pieces that have been called Lute-Book Lullaby. Both are found in the Willam Ballet Lute Book (Dublin, Trinity College BM, Add. 17786-91). One is for 5 voices or viols. The other has been arranged for 4 voices by Geoffrey Shaw and published as number 30 in The Oxford Book of Carols OUP, London, copyright 1928 and 1964. It is reproduced as number 34 in Carols for Choirs ed. R Jacques David Willcocks, OUP, London, copyright 1961. I assume the latter is the one of interest here. Daniel Heiman On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:29:19 +0100 Spring, aus dem, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the Lute-book lullaby ? Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IS department, development Tel.:+49 211-5296-355 Fax.:+49 211-5296-405 SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Charles Browne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:20 PM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Lute book lullaby for SATB does anyone have a Fronimo/Django file of the Lute-book lullaby for SATB? I would be very grateful for a copy! thanks Charles browne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html CONFIDENTIALITY DISCLAIMER *** The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose outside of any NDA currently existing between Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH and yourselves. Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH Hansaallee 181- 40549 Düsseldorf Handelsregister Düsseldorf HRB 22487 Geschäftsführer: Ryoichi Shikama Amtsgericht Düsseldorf
[LUTE] Re: Mystery Brownsea lutes
Anthony: The Lautenweltadressbuch ( http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/associated/index.html#lautenweltadressbu ch ) shows three historical lutes at Dean Castle Museum in Killarnock and eight at Edinburgh University. The ones at Dean Castle are all made of ivory, so it seems they had first pick of the van Raalte collection. I found one instrument pictured on each website: http://www.futuremuseum.co.uk/images/cache/Img285S1000.jpg http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/euchmi/ucj/ucjtb.html Regards, Daniel Heiman On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:02:41 +0200 Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The message from Kenneth Sparr (below) about the mystery lady with the Copenhagen Jauch lute, brought to mind two mystery lutes that I had read about in a book on the history of Brownsea Island. I used to live in Poole, UK, near this island, and I seem to recall reading that two lutes from a musical instrument collection there, had been sold, a number of years before, for Pounds 5 each. I had thought, how cheap that was, and wished I had been around then with 5 quid in my pocket. Even if, Pounds 5 at the time (1927?) would have been worth a good deal more than now.* (*e.g. . Cheddar, cheese cost in average 17 pence per kilogram in 1923 and 490 pence in 1998, thus one lute would have cost roughly 70 Kilos of Cheddar, or about Pounds 150 to Pounds 200 in today's money, which still seems very cheap by any standard; although I am very partial to a true unpasteurised muslin-covered Cheddar). Of course had I been fortunate enough to have bought them, I wouldn't be here talking about them today ... I remember that there was a photo showing the lutes in a case (or on a wall) of what looked like the Brownsea castle library. However, I made a search this morning, and discovered that there had been a very important collection of musical instruments on Brownsea, known as the Charles van Raalte collection. I dare say, you all knew about that; but although I have often wondered about those lutes, I never thought I could find anything out about them, or the Brownsea collection, till today. The first indication given at http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/euchmi/ cimcim/id/idtuk.html, states that the instruments are mostly now in Edinburgh University Collection of Historic Musical Instruments http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/ euchmi/, or at Dean Castle museum. http://www.futuremuseum.co.uk/ Default.aspx?Id=172 A number of important instruments were purchased from the van Raalte Collection, Brownsea Island probably in 1927, as well as on the Continent. (For the remainder of the van Raalte Collection, see Kilmarnock, Scotland, Dean Castle.) http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/euchmi/cimcim/id/idtuk.html At Cecilia-uk, the collection (I think, the part in Edinburgh) is described as follows: =AB It included plucked strings (e.g lutes, theorbo, chittara, mandora, guitar, mandola, cittern, harp, dulcimer, lyra); bowed strings including members of the viol and violin families; wind instruments including ivory recorders and flutes, flageolet, cornett, serpent; keyboards including ottavini, virginals, clavichord, spinet, harpsichord, positiv and portative organs; percussion instruments including 2 Ugandan conical drums. http://www.cecilia-uk.org/html/search/verb/GetRecord/1173 The Dean Castle museum http://www.futuremuseum.co.uk/Default.aspx? Id=172, describes their part of that collection as follows: For certain types of instruments this is one of the most important collections in the world. This applies to the instruments of the lute family, some of which are very old, particularly fine and well preserved. These date from as early as 1570, several being products of famous instrument makers of their time. The tops are made of maple wood; the backs are usually wholly or partly of ivory. Ivory is also used in the elaborate decoration found on several instruments. You can see some of the instruments at that web address. How the instruments came into the possession of the Dean Castle museum, is explained, thus : =AB The musical instruments on display at Dean Castle were collected, at the end of the 19th Century by Charles van Raalte of Brownsea, Dorset. His daughter, Margherita, married the 8th Lord Howard de Walden*, (*restorer of the castle, surporter of orchestras, but collector of fine arms and armour) and although several of her father's instruments were sold after his death, she brought many of the most historically important examples to Dean Castle. At first sight this seems to contradict the details about the Edinburgh University collection, which was possibly acquired in 1927 (see above). The telegraph states =AB in 1908, van Raalte had died but his wife Florence kept the island going until
[LUTE] Re: help
Shiro: Up front you need to realize that buying a lute is a serious financial commitment. They are not generally available over the counter except in a place like the Early Music Shop in Bradford, England. There are several hundred luthiers around the world who can build you one, custom made to your specifications, but that will take time (six months to four or five years, depending on the demand for that builder's work) and $1500 to $6000 or more. A very fundamental choice you must make is what kind of music you want to play. Many people use the term medieval music for anything old. You need to understand clearly the distinctions and stylistic differences between Medieval, Renaissance and Baroque music. The lutes required are completely different. (So you may end up buying several instruments.) Some nice samples can be found on YouTube: Medieval: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB4CehJEK8ANR=1 Renaissance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G23_pcCZkZg (Played by a professional) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3lKc_JMmIg (Played by a non-professional) Baroque solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIANAfU2cS4 (Played by a professional) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVlFbu-0I3g(Played by a non-professional) or Baroque ensemble music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqkjkbSBHAs Finally, you need to realize that there is a significant time commitment involved in learning to play. All of the people who made these videos have worked at it regularly for many years to achieve the level of proficiency you see there (the shortest being around 4 years). Regards, Daniel Heiman On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Shiro Okami [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: im trying to buy a lute for myself because i really enjoy listening to its sounds..ive never touched one before and i was wondering if somebody could help me choose the right one for me. i like listening to lute music from the medevil ages or stuff like a song called skalds and shadows by blind guardian.. help me please.. thank you - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: the bandore
Chris: For some quick background on the instrument, try this: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/aboutLute/Bandora.html Daniel Heiman On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:48:35 -0400 Cotton, Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Lutenists, I am a high school English teacher in Shaker Heights, Ohio, and I am doing research on the bandore. I have learned that it was a courtly Elizabethan instrument, and I know that it went out of fashion some time after. Possibly it was supplanted by the lute or guitar? In any case, what I need to know is when it went out of fashion. Was it still a common instrument in 1700? In 1650? Any thoughts you might have about this would be very grateful! Chris -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Nigel North Interview - non-working link?
Hermann: Look at this page: http://www.guitaralive.org/playlist.html From this it appears that all of the programs more than 6 months old have been pulled off the server (assuming the 2006 dates in the middle of 2007 are errors). It might be worth sending an e-mail to the address given at the top of the page ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and requesting that it be reposted. As an aside, I discovered that on this page there is another program of interest to lutenists, well camouflaged: The second half of the entry at: http://www.guitaralive.org/playlist_06_10_16.html listed as David Russel and Richard Savino is in fact an interview with **Richard Stone,** including performance by Tempesta di Mare, his group based in Philadelphia, doing his reconstruction of some of Weiss' ensemble music. Regards, Daniel Heiman On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:10:59 +0200 Hermann Stemberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Can somebody help me with the interesting Interview with Nigel North about J. Downland? The Link on the Page: http://www.guitaralive.org/playlist_06_3_28.html Seems not to work. Does anybody have a working link? Thank you in advance, Hermann To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: measurements please
Hi, Kevin: My small Renaissance lute, slightly smaller than your requested mensur at 55 cm, has a 55 cm length also for the central rib. It is based on the Hes lute in the Paris Museum of Decorative Arts (original in ivory; mine is curly maple...). Regards, Daniel Heiman On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Kishimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear collective lute wisdom, I'm wondering if some of you with smallish renaissance g-lutes (57-60 cm stringlength) would be willing to take a measurement for me. Could you please measure the length of the center rib on your lute from the bottom of the soundboard, around the curve of the bowl, to the neck block (using a tape measure)? Cm or inches would be fine. I've got some really nice looking maple, but I'm not sure if it would be long enough to build a lute. And if you know upon which historical model your lute is based, I'd appreciate that info also. Thanks in advance. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Sources manuscrites
For those who might be interested, Sources manuscrites en tablature/Manuscript sources in tablature, ca. 1500 ca. 1800 is back on line at the same URL as previously: http://www-bnus.u-strasbg.fr/Smt/sommaire.htm Daniel Heiman -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597
Rainer: What this means is that you have not contributed any films to the LSA Microfilm Library since 1990 (and neither has anyone else!). What it may imply is that microfilm is obsolescent or even obsolete as a format for data archiving and transmittal. Some people are finding that film reader-printers are just not available. Should the LSA digitize all the films in the Library? Nice idea. Requires quite a bit of (volunteer?) time by someone. Then what? Sell them on CD or by file download? May run into objections from the libraries that own the original publications and could be damaging to publishing houses like Minkoff that sell facsimiles. Other suggestions? Daniel Heiman On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:39:24 +0200 Spring, aus dem, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- From: Arthur Ness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:52 PM To: adS; lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597 What is 17 years old? The list? The microfilm? The list. Rainer CONFIDENTIALITY DISCLAIMER *** The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose outside of any NDA currently existing between Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH and yourselves. Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH Hansaallee 181- 40549 Düsseldorf Handelsregister Düsseldorf HRB 22487 Geschäftsführer: Ryoichi Shikama Amtsgericht Düsseldorf To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html