[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Monica Hall]

I'll second that!   It's not difficult read both French and Italian tab and 
it is self defeating to turn Italian tab upside down because you may 
eventually have to unlearn everything you've got used to.


German tab is a bit more difficult.

Monica


- Original Message - 
From: "Monica Hall" 

To: "Edward Mast" 
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles


- Original Message - 
From: "Edward Mast" 

To: "vance wood" 
Cc: "Lute List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:43 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles



What you say makes good sense, Vance.
Ned
On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:39 PM, vance wood wrote:

I think trying to make an argument that one form of tab. is better than 
another is both counter-productive and epistemologically unsound.  The 
fact will in the end remain, that a serious Lute student will have to be 
at the least familiar with Italian, French and German tab (if not 
fluent) unless they find themselves in the unenviable position of having 
to trust on a third party to translate, one to the other, or do it 
themselves. Myself; I am not fluent in German tab but I can sight read 
both French and Italian equally well, or poorly depending on your 
assessment of my abilities.  It is for this reason I believe it is best 
to learn as much as possible from facsimiles and or photo copies of 
original materials rather than depend on the work modern scholars, or 
publishers, who may or may not have supplied their opinions or rendered 
their own mistakes.  Not to demean these efforts but to simply state 
that the original source is often better for educational purposes than 
the il!

luminated modern version.

- Original Message - From: 
To: "Sauvage Valéry" 
Cc: "'Sean Smith'" ; "'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'" 


Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:05 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles





A student should learn italian tab
as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...)


I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms
(French with numerals as well as french with letters).

Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them 
entirely
rational, none of them conclusive.  I find single-glyph symbols easier 
to

work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with
numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the 
alfabet,
there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but 
nothing

really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout.

chacun à son goût...
--
Dana Emery



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Edward Mast]

What you say makes good sense, Vance.
Ned
On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:39 PM, vance wood wrote:

> I think trying to make an argument that one form of tab. is better than 
> another is both counter-productive and epistemologically unsound.  The fact 
> will in the end remain, that a serious Lute student will have to be at the 
> least familiar with Italian, French and German tab (if not fluent) unless 
> they find themselves in the unenviable position of having to trust on a third 
> party to translate, one to the other, or do it themselves. Myself; I am not 
> fluent in German tab but I can sight read both French and Italian equally 
> well, or poorly depending on your assessment of my abilities.  It is for this 
> reason I believe it is best to learn as much as possible from facsimiles and 
> or photo copies of original materials rather than depend on the work modern 
> scholars, or publishers, who may or may not have supplied their opinions or 
> rendered their own mistakes.  Not to demean these efforts but to simply state 
> that the original source is often better for educational purposes than the il!
 luminated modern version.
> - Original Message - From: 
> To: "Sauvage Valéry" 
> Cc: "'Sean Smith'" ; "'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:05 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
> 
> 
>> 
>>> A student should learn italian tab
>>> as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...)
>> 
>> I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms
>> (French with numerals as well as french with letters).
>> 
>> Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them entirely
>> rational, none of them conclusive.  I find single-glyph symbols easier to
>> work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with
>> numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the alfabet,
>> there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but nothing
>> really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout.
>> 
>> chacun à son goût...
>> --
>> Dana Emery
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 
> 

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[vance wood]

I think trying to make an argument that one form of tab. is better than 
another is both counter-productive and epistemologically unsound.  The fact 
will in the end remain, that a serious Lute student will have to be at the 
least familiar with Italian, French and German tab (if not fluent) unless 
they find themselves in the unenviable position of having to trust on a 
third party to translate, one to the other, or do it themselves. Myself; I 
am not fluent in German tab but I can sight read both French and Italian 
equally well, or poorly depending on your assessment of my abilities.  It is 
for this reason I believe it is best to learn as much as possible from 
facsimiles and or photo copies of original materials rather than depend on 
the work modern scholars, or publishers, who may or may not have supplied 
their opinions or rendered their own mistakes.  Not to demean these efforts 
but to simply state that the original source is often better for educational 
purposes than the illuminated modern version.
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Sauvage Valéry" 
Cc: "'Sean Smith'" ; "'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'" 


Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 4:05 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles





A student should learn italian tab
as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...)


I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms
(French with numerals as well as french with letters).

Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them entirely
rational, none of them conclusive.  I find single-glyph symbols easier to
work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with
numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the alfabet,
there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but nothing
really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout.

chacun à son goût...
--
Dana Emery



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[demery]

> A student should learn italian tab
> as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...)

I found it difficult to read both, and began with 'french-like' forms
(French with numerals as well as french with letters).

Each of the publishers had arguments for their form, all of them entirely
rational, none of them conclusive.  I find single-glyph symbols easier to
work with, and since the number of frets obliges two-glyph symbols with
numerals (eg, 14, 15 .. 25), but has single-glyph symbols in the alfabet,
there is an argument which slightly favors the use of letters; but nothing
really compelling to favor italian-ordered vs french-ordered layout.

chacun à son goût...
--
Dana Emery



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Sauvage Valéry]

 
"From the point of view of a renaissance lutenist"...
The must have number one is the "Folger", the first lute "Best of" of
English music (from Mrs Winter's jump to Lachrimae, with some Johnson, and
many nice accessible anonymous pieces)
Casteliono for Italian music (and tab... A student should learn italian tab
as soon as possible, too late they say, oh, I do prefer french tab...)
Attaingnant fo nice easy  early french music
and Francisque for nice and easy late french music...
(It is very important for students to have easy music to learn, not to be
discouraged by heavy stuff you "should" play...)
Narvaez for fine and beautiful Spanish works. (Or Milan in case you prefer,
but my personnal choice is Narvaez...)

V.


-Message d'origine-
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de Sean Smith
Envoyé : mardi 10 août 2010 03:19
À : lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Objet : [LUTE] Facsimiles


Dear all,

Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's actually
been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of between 1-3
years what would you suggest are the 5 most important facsimiles to own? I
was going to say "have access to" but I feel that any serious player should
be starting their own libraries by this time.

I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as well as
the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so interested in
where they come from --I realize their availability comes and goes-- but
from the student/player/historian aspect of learning the lute, its repertory
and its place in history.

Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second
5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere.  
Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an
upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.

Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!

Sean



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Mathias Rösel]

Dear Stewart,

as far as Thomas Mace didactical skills are concerned, I reckon him a
paragon of a teacher. And I beg to differ as regards his music, I like
it at least as much as continental lute music of the 1650ies through
1670ies, and I do think it's special from a continental point of view.
Much depends on the pitch, though. Once you play it with your 1st course
in g', the music gets a particular flavour. You see, I'm into the
baroque lute, rather. Werl, Ballard 1631 + 1638, Mace 1676. Another bag
for Gaultier 1669, Gallot 1670, Lesage de Richee 1695, Mouton 1699. I
hope four books per bag is okay as well. Never travel without.

Mathias

"Stewart McCoy"  schrieb:
> Dear Mathias,
> 
> In choosing my five facsimiles I tried to look wider than just lute
> solos. The lute involves other things too, hence my choice of Dowland's
> First Booke of Songes, which I consider to be the most significant
> collection of lute songs of all time. I think Mace's Musick's Monument
> is important, not so much for his music, which is nice but not special,
> but for what he has to say about the lute, the theorbo and the viol.
> 
> It is a pity not to have included any foreign sources, but I thought it
> best to stick to French tablature. Otherwise the Capirola lute book
> would be high on my list, along with Spinacino's two books (1507),
> Casteliono's Intabolatura (1536), and Newsidler's Ein Newgeordnet
> Künstlich Lautenbuch (1536). To make the list ten, I would add Besard's
> Thesaurus Harmonicus (1603).
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Stewart.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Mathias Rösel" [mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de] 
> Sent: 10 August 2010 12:49
> To: Stewart McCoy
> Cc: Lute Net
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Facsimiles
> 
> "Stewart McCoy"  schrieb:
> > An interesting question. I would suggest these five for starters:
> ..
> > 5) Thomas Mace, Musick's Monument (1676)
> 
> Mace? I mean, it's a marvelous book, I love it, and stuff, but for a
> start? You can count on the fingers of one hand guys who play French
> flat tuning in Mace's pitch (g' - e - c - a - e - B - A-G-F-E-D-C), I so
> I sometimes guess when I feel lonely.
> 
> Mathias
> 
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's  
> > actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of
> 
> > between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important  
> > facsimiles to own? I was going to say "have access to" but I feel that
> 
> > any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this
> time.
> > 
> > I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as well
> 
> > as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so  
> > interested in where they come from --I realize their availability  
> > comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of  
> > learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history.
> > 
> > Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second
> 
> > 5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere.
> 
> > Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an
> 
> > upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!
> > 
> > Sean



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Edward Mast]

Of lute music per se, I have only Varietie in facsimile.  But for early 
notation I have Canti B & C of Odhecaton, and numerous other copies of pages 
from facsimile editions.  These I consider indispensable for learning to play 
early notation.  Most of my study of lute music is done from more modern 
editions, I must admit.  Methinks,  perhaps I ought to try to rectify this.

Ned
On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:

>   Sean:
>   My list with annotations.
>   Capirola - something for everyone and it looks cool
>   Phalese, 1568 - good variety of mid-century continental music
>   Dowland's First Booke, 1597 - English ayres for every taste and ability
>   Board ms. - good survey of English music from J. Johnson to
>   transitional tunings
>   Varietie, 1610 - something to work toward
>   Ron Andrico
>   www.mignarda.com
>> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:18:36 -0700
>> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>> From: lutesm...@mac.com
>> Subject: [LUTE] Facsimiles
>> 
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's
>> actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of
>> between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important
>> facsimiles to own? I was going to say "have access to" but I feel
>   that
>> any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this
>   time.
>> 
>> I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as
>   well
>> as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so
>> interested in where they come from --I realize their availability
>> comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of
>> learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history.
>> 
>> Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second
>> 5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere.
>> Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an
>> upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>   --
> 

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Luca Manassero]

Dear list,

Possibly because there was some lute playing even outside UK ;-)
I would strongly recommend:

Vincenzo Capirola
G. A. Casteliono
Francesco Spinacino
Attaingnant, Tres breve et familiere Introduction...
Alessandro Piccinini

--Messaggio originale--
Da: Sean Smith
Mittente:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
A:LuteList
Oggetto: [LUTE] Facsimiles
Inviato: 10 Ago 2010 03:18


Dear all,

Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's  
actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of  
between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important  
facsimiles to own? I was going to say "have access to" but I feel that  
any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this time.

I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as well  
as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so  
interested in where they come from --I realize their availability  
comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of  
learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history.

Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second  
5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere.  
Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an  
upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.

Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!

Sean



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Luca
http://liuti.manassero.net

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Mathias Rösel]

"Stewart McCoy"  schrieb:
> An interesting question. I would suggest these five for starters:
..
> 5) Thomas Mace, Musick's Monument (1676)

Mace? I mean, it's a marvelous book, I love it, and stuff, but for a
start? You can count on the fingers of one hand guys who play French
flat tuning in Mace's pitch (g' - e - c - a - e - B - A-G-F-E-D-C), I so
I sometimes guess when I feel lonely.

Mathias

> Dear all,
> 
> Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's  
> actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of  
> between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important  
> facsimiles to own? I was going to say "have access to" but I feel that  
> any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this time.
> 
> I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as well  
> as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so  
> interested in where they come from --I realize their availability  
> comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of  
> learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history.
> 
> Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second  
> 5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere.  
> Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an  
> upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.
> 
> Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 


-- 
Viele Grüße

Mathias Rösel

http://mathiasroesel.livejournal.com 
http://www.myspace.com/mathiasroesel 

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Nancy Carlin]

   Here's my list:
   1. Jane Pickering - because it has some simple toys, both parts of nice
   duets and a mixture of harder solos, and the handwriting is very clear
   with almost no mistakes
   2. Marsh Manuscript - lots of 6 course music and pieces by John
   Johnson, who I particularly like.
   3. Folger "Dowland" Manuscript - the music in this manuscript has clues
   for the answers to questions about right hand fingering (when to use
   thumb - index and when to use index - middle) and also which notes to
   ornament.
   4. Bronrgyntyn - this manuscript has the best doodles of all of them.
   5. The M. L. Lute Book - there is some really nice music in this
   manuscript, for 9 and 10 course lutes. If you want to explore the music
   after Dowland, there are lots of ornaments and right hand fingerings
   marked.
   And the manuscripts that I can't wait to spend more time with:
   Dd. 2.11 - I hope it's ready soon!
   Dd. 9.33
   Nn.6.36
   Lord Herbert of Cherbury
   It's pretty obvious that I love English music.
   Nancy

 Dear all,
 Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's
 actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student
 of
 between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important
 facsimiles to own? I was going to say "have access to" but I feel
 that
 any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this
 time.
 I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as
 well
 as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so
 interested in where they come from --I realize their availability
 comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of
 learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history.
 Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a
 second
 5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start
 somewhere.
 Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in
 an
 upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.
 Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!
 Sean
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Mark Probert]

Hi, Sean..

(a follow-up to the list :) )

Being exactly there myself, here is my current list:

1 Diverse authori, helps with the knowing of Italian tab & wonderful music
2 School of Musick, much goodness to be found in Mr Robinson, plus duets
3 Secret des muse, late Ren and a cool introduction to Baroque notation
4 Sampson, for the incidentals
5 a book of songs, say Campion or Bossensensis, to go with a soprano :)


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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Ron Andrico]

   Sean:
   My list with annotations.
   Capirola - something for everyone and it looks cool
   Phalese, 1568 - good variety of mid-century continental music
   Dowland's First Booke, 1597 - English ayres for every taste and ability
   Board ms. - good survey of English music from J. Johnson to
   transitional tunings
   Varietie, 1610 - something to work toward
   Ron Andrico
   www.mignarda.com
   > Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 18:18:36 -0700
   > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   > From: lutesm...@mac.com
   > Subject: [LUTE] Facsimiles
   >
   >
   > Dear all,
   >
   > Though this arises coincidentally from the Passereau question, it's
   > actually been brewing in my head for some time. For a lute student of
   > between 1-3 years what would you suggest are the 5 most important
   > facsimiles to own? I was going to say "have access to" but I feel
   that
   > any serious player should be starting their own libraries by this
   time.
   >
   > I'll ask this from the point of view of a renaissance lutenist as
   well
   > as the baroque players who will have their own lists. I'm not so
   > interested in where they come from --I realize their availability
   > comes and goes-- but from the student/player/historian aspect of
   > learning the lute, its repertory and its place in history.
   >
   > Yes, I know, 5 books is mighty limiting but feel free to add a second
   > 5 books if you need. As I see it every player has to start somewhere.
   > Eventually I plan to tally the results and put a paragraph or 3 in an
   > upcoming LSA Quarterly. And here.
   >
   > Thanks in advance; I look forward to your replies!
   >
   > Sean
   >
   >
   >
   > To get on or off this list see list information at
   > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[T.Kakinami]

I have had just mistake on copy and paste.
Link is already amended.

Thanks to Kenneth and Markus.



> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
> [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu]on Behalf Of Kenneth M Berry
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:59 AM
> To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
>
>
> The link to Balint Bakfark is for Arian Denss on your blog.
>
> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, T.Kakinami  wrote:
>
> > From: T.Kakinami 
> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
> > To: "wolfgang wiehe" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 5:44 AM
> > My  blog is updated. Thanks to
> > Wolfgang.
> >
> > **
> >  Toshiaki Kakinami
> >  Nagoya, JAPAN
> >   http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: wolfgang wiehe [mailto:wie-w...@gmx.de]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:54 PM
> > > To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;
> > tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
> > > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Facsimiles
> > >
> > >
> > > between more lute manuscripts are online:
> > >
> > > # munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle)
> > > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/
> > >
> > > # munich mus. ms. 267
> > > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/
> > >
> > > # munich mus. ms. 1512
> > > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/
> > >
> > > # munich mus. ms. 272
> > > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
> > > it seems to be something wrong with this last
> > digitalisat, go to
> > > "miniaturansicht" and than backwards.
> > >
> > > greetings
> > > wolfgang
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Original-Nachricht 
> > > > Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
> > > > Von: "T.Kakinami" 
> > > > An: "T.Kakinami" ,
> > lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > > > Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles
> > >
> > > > Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener
> > > DigitalisierungsZentrum are
> > > > introduced.
> > > > Links for URL are attached.
> > > > Please enjoy.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchener.html
> >
> >
> >
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>
>
>

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Markus Lutz]

The link for Bakfark is:
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031267/images/

Best
Markus

Kenneth M Berry schrieb:

The link to Balint Bakfark is for Arian Denss on your blog.

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, T.Kakinami  wrote:


From: T.Kakinami 
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
To: "wolfgang wiehe" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 5:44 AM
My  blog is updated. Thanks to
Wolfgang.

**
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 Nagoya, JAPAN
  http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com
**




-Original Message-
From: wolfgang wiehe [mailto:wie-w...@gmx.de]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:54 PM
To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;

tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp

Subject: Re: [LUTE] Facsimiles


between more lute manuscripts are online:

# munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle)
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/

# munich mus. ms. 267
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/

# munich mus. ms. 1512
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/

# munich mus. ms. 272
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
it seems to be something wrong with this last

digitalisat, go to

"miniaturansicht" and than backwards.

greetings
wolfgang




 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
Von: "T.Kakinami" 
An: "T.Kakinami" ,

lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles
Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener

DigitalisierungsZentrum are

introduced.
Links for URL are attached.
Please enjoy.



http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchener.html



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Kenneth M Berry]

The link to Balint Bakfark is for Arian Denss on your blog.

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, T.Kakinami  wrote:

> From: T.Kakinami 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
> To: "wolfgang wiehe" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 5:44 AM
> My  blog is updated. Thanks to
> Wolfgang.
> 
> **
>  Toshiaki Kakinami
>  Nagoya, JAPAN
>   http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com
> **
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wolfgang wiehe [mailto:wie-w...@gmx.de]
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:54 PM
> > To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu;
> tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
> > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Facsimiles
> >
> >
> > between more lute manuscripts are online:
> >
> > # munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle)
> > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/
> >
> > # munich mus. ms. 267
> > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/
> >
> > # munich mus. ms. 1512
> > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/
> >
> > # munich mus. ms. 272
> > http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
> > it seems to be something wrong with this last
> digitalisat, go to
> > "miniaturansicht" and than backwards.
> >
> > greetings
> > wolfgang
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Original-Nachricht 
> > > Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
> > > Von: "T.Kakinami" 
> > > An: "T.Kakinami" ,
> lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > > Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles
> >
> > > Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener
> > DigitalisierungsZentrum are
> > > introduced.
> > > Links for URL are attached.
> > > Please enjoy.
> > >
> > >
> http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchener.html
> >
> >
> >
> > To get on or off this list see list information at
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> 
> 
> 

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[G. Crona]

Of course! How ingenious you are Wolfgang! Thanks again.

G.
- Original Message - 
From: "wolfgang wiehe" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles


yes, the munich BSB is a treasure house. but the quality of the 267 
digitalisat is poor.

# (How did you find out how to do it?)
I tried a pdf-download with the bakfark-print, there is a pdf-button and 
looked at the url-structure for a moment... :-)
w. 




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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[wolfgang wiehe]

yes, the munich BSB is a treasure house. but the quality of the 267 digitalisat 
is poor.
# (How did you find out how to do it?)
I tried a pdf-download with the bakfark-print, there is a pdf-button and looked 
at the url-structure for a moment... :-)
w.

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:38:10 +0100
> Von: "G. Crona" 
> An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

> Great!
> 
> Thanks a *LOT* Wolfgang! :) (How did you find out how to do it?)
> 
> The BSB is proving to be quite a treasure trove for us lute aficionados!
> 
> If only Paris and London would follow suite...
> 
> G.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "wolfgang wiehe" 
> To: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" ; 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:06 PM
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
> 
> 
> > now here is the pdf-solution:
> > use this links
> > http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031681&nr=1
> > http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00032067&nr=1
> > http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031731&nr=1
> > http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031633&nr=1
> > greetings
> > wolfgang
> > p.s. I think they forgotten the pdf-button
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Original-Nachricht 
> >> Datum: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:50:01 +0100
> >> Von: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" 
> >> An: wolfgang wiehe , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" 
> >> 
> >> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
> >
> >> Any idea how to download as pdf?
> >>
> >> When you right-click on a picture it says you should use the pdf
> download
> >> which I cant find...
> >>
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Rainer aus dem Spring 
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[G. Crona]

Great!

Thanks a *LOT* Wolfgang! :) (How did you find out how to do it?)

The BSB is proving to be quite a treasure trove for us lute aficionados!

If only Paris and London would follow suite...

G.
- Original Message - 
From: "wolfgang wiehe" 
To: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" ; 


Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles



now here is the pdf-solution:
use this links
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031681&nr=1
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00032067&nr=1
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031731&nr=1
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031633&nr=1
greetings
wolfgang
p.s. I think they forgotten the pdf-button



 Original-Nachricht 

Datum: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:50:01 +0100
Von: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" 
An: wolfgang wiehe , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" 


Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles



Any idea how to download as pdf?

When you right-click on a picture it says you should use the pdf download
which I cant find...


Best wishes,

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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[wolfgang wiehe]

now here is the pdf-solution:
use this links
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031681&nr=1
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00032067&nr=1
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031731&nr=1
http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/zend-bsb/pdf_download.pl?id=00031633&nr=1
greetings
wolfgang
p.s. I think they forgotten the pdf-button



 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:50:01 +0100
> Von: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" 
> An: wolfgang wiehe , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" 
> 
> Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

> Any idea how to download as pdf?
> 
> When you right-click on a picture it says you should use the pdf download
> which I cant find...
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Rainer aus dem Spring
> 
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> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf Of wolfgang wiehe
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:54 PM
> To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles
> 
> between more lute manuscripts are online:
> 
> # munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle)
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/
> 
> # munich mus. ms. 267
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/
> 
> # munich mus. ms. 1512
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/
> 
> # munich mus. ms. 272
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
> it seems to be something wrong with this last digitalisat, go to
> "miniaturansicht" and than backwards.
> 
> greetings
> wolfgang
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
> > Von: "T.Kakinami" 
> > An: "T.Kakinami" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles
> 
> > Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener DigitalisierungsZentrum
> > are introduced.
> > Links for URL are attached.
> > Please enjoy.
> >
> > http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchene
> > r.html
> >
> >
> >
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[Spring, aus dem, Rainer]

Any idea how to download as pdf?

When you right-click on a picture it says you should use the pdf download which 
I cant find...


Best wishes,

Rainer aus dem Spring


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-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
wolfgang wiehe
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:54 PM
To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

between more lute manuscripts are online:

# munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle) 
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/

# munich mus. ms. 267
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/

# munich mus. ms. 1512
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/

# munich mus. ms. 272
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
it seems to be something wrong with this last digitalisat, go to 
"miniaturansicht" and than backwards.

greetings
wolfgang




 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
> Von: "T.Kakinami" 
> An: "T.Kakinami" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles

> Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener DigitalisierungsZentrum
> are introduced.
> Links for URL are attached.
> Please enjoy.
>
> http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchene
> r.html
>
>
>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[T.Kakinami]

My  blog is updated. Thanks to Wolfgang.

**
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 Nagoya, JAPAN
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> -Original Message-
> From: wolfgang wiehe [mailto:wie-w...@gmx.de]
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:54 PM
> To: T.Kakinami; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Facsimiles
>
>
> between more lute manuscripts are online:
>
> # munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle)
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/
>
> # munich mus. ms. 267
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/
>
> # munich mus. ms. 1512
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/
>
> # munich mus. ms. 272
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
> it seems to be something wrong with this last digitalisat, go to
> "miniaturansicht" and than backwards.
>
> greetings
> wolfgang
>
>
>
>
>  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
> > Von: "T.Kakinami" 
> > An: "T.Kakinami" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles
>
> > Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener
> DigitalisierungsZentrum are
> > introduced.
> > Links for URL are attached.
> > Please enjoy.
> >
> >
http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchener.html
>
>
>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

[wolfgang wiehe]

between more lute manuscripts are online:

# munich mus. ms. 266 (with marco fascicle)
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031681/images/

# munich mus. ms. 267
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00032067/images/

# munich mus. ms. 1512
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031633/images/

# munich mus. ms. 272
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0003/bsb00031731/images/
it seems to be something wrong with this last digitalisat, go to 
"miniaturansicht" and than backwards.

greetings
wolfgang




 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:49 +0900
> Von: "T.Kakinami" 
> An: "T.Kakinami" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Betreff: [LUTE] Facsimiles

> Facsimiles from Diditale Bibliothek, Munchener DigitalisierungsZentrum are
> introduced.
> Links for URL are attached.
> Please enjoy.
> 
> http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2009/10/diditale-bibliothek-munchener.html
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Roman Turovsky]

Looking forward to it!!!
RT

From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Come on, Roman ! Crossing over the "Pond" is no big deal, really. 
Actually, several of my relatives live on your side of it, a brother in 
Florida, a nephew in Ohio and a niece of mine in New York, so I will 
probably drop down there one day... with calvados in my lute case, who 
knows ?!! ;-)


Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 20:37:42 ===



Am devastated by the geographical
distance.
RT

From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




I have some home-made in stock. You're welcome any time, Roman !

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 20:11:14 ===



Real men drink calvados.
RT

- Original Message - 
From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "lute" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ???
Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. 
;-)))


Best,

Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe

!   )

=== 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===



No problems on my end. XP.
RT
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
and the official Acrobat reader...

B.



Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.

Check out

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats

to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.




On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:

Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to
open
a
pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is 
corrupt

or
whatever... Is it the same with you ?






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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Peter Martin]

There's certainly still a copyright checking issue on IMSLP.  If I try
downloading Tartini's (1692-1770) Devil's Trill sonata, I get the message:

*"You have reached this page because the file you requested has not been
reviewed for copyright, or is currently restricted due to technical reasons.
* A significant portion of the original IMSLP is still pending copyright
review, so expect the number of blocked files to decrease dramatically in
the next few months after IMSLP reopening."

No such problems downloading Mars, The Bringer of War by Gustav Holst
(1874-1934).  (I'm also in France, Jean-Marie, so if there's a problem it's
not your location).   But I have a nasty feeling that Holst is still in
copyright here, because they add on extra years to compensate for the war
years.  Thanks, Mars.  Maybe I'd better wipe it out again.

P
2008/7/4 Daniel F Heiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Jean-Marie:
>
> I think I understand what is going on.  Although the site is again open,
> a large majority of the music is still unavailable.  Only a few of the
> files I tried to access actually downloaded; the rest generated a message
> saying that the file is still blocked.  Try Attaingnant (Deux Livres
> d'Orgue) and see if that works for you.
>
> Daniel Heiman
>
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:07:59 +0200 "Jean-Marie Poirier"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ???
> > Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance..
> > ;-)))
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style,
> > maybe  !   )
> >
> > === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===
> >
> > >
> > >No problems on my end. XP.
> > >RT
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Lute List" ; "The Other"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
> > >Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
> > >
> > >
> > >>I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
> > >> and the official Acrobat reader...
> > >>
> > >> B.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
> > >>>
> > >>> Check out
> > >>>
> > >>> http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
> > >>>
> > >>> to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
> > >>>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try
> > to open a
> > >>>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is
> > corrupt or
> > >>>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
> > >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > >>>
> > >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > >>> Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date:
> >
> > >>> 03.07.2008 19:19
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> ---
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> > mail.
> > >Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
> > >
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Come on, Roman ! Crossing over the "Pond" is no big deal, really. Actually, 
several of my relatives live on your side of it, a brother in Florida, a nephew 
in Ohio and a niece of mine in New York, so I will probably drop down there one 
day... with calvados in my lute case, who knows ?!! ;-)

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 20:37:42 ===

>
>Am devastated by the geographical 
>distance.
>RT
>
>From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>>I have some home-made in stock. You're welcome any time, Roman !
>>
>> Jean-Marie
>>
>> === 04-07-2008 20:11:14 ===
>>
>>>
>>>Real men drink calvados.
>>>RT
>>>
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "lute" 
>>>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:07 PM
>>>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ???
>>>> Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. ;-)))
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe 
>>>> 
>>>> !   )
>>>>
>>>> === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No problems on my end. XP.
>>>>>RT
>>>>>- Original Message - 
>>>>>From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
>>>>>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
>>>>>> and the official Acrobat reader...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to 
>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date:
>>>>>>> 03.07.2008 19:19
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>---
>>>>>Orange vous informe que cet  e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus 
>>>>>mail.
>>>>>Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>>>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> 04-07-2008
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Well, it doesn't... I have tried to empty my internet cache. I use Mozilla and 
there is no way to get any of the pdf files. Maybe there is still some kind of 
restriction for downloads out of the USA ?

I don't know what's going on but it does sort of bug me   ;-(

Thank you for your suggestion anyway.

All the best,

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 20:36:29 ===

>
>Jean-Marie:
>
>I think I understand what is going on.  Although the site is again open,
>a large majority of the music is still unavailable.  Only a few of the
>files I tried to access actually downloaded; the rest generated a message
>saying that the file is still blocked.  Try Attaingnant (Deux Livres
>d'Orgue) and see if that works for you.
>
>Daniel Heiman
>
>On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:07:59 +0200 "Jean-Marie Poirier"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ??? 
>> Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. 
>> ;-)))
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, 
>> maybe  !   )   
>> 
>> === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===
>> 
>> >
>> >No problems on my end. XP.
>> >RT
>> >----- Original Message - 
>> >From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
>> >Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
>> >
>> >
>> >>I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
>> >> and the official Acrobat reader...
>> >>
>> >> B.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
>> >>>
>> >>> Check out
>> >>>
>> >>> http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
>> >>>
>> >>> to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>> >>>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try 
>> to open a 
>> >>>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is 
>> corrupt or 
>> >>>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>> >>>
>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>> >>> Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 
>> 
>> >>> 03.07.2008 19:19
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>---
>> >Orange vous informe que cet  e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus 
>> mail. 
>> >Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 
>>   
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> 04-07-2008 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Daniel F Heiman]

Jean-Marie:

I think I understand what is going on.  Although the site is again open,
a large majority of the music is still unavailable.  Only a few of the
files I tried to access actually downloaded; the rest generated a message
saying that the file is still blocked.  Try Attaingnant (Deux Livres
d'Orgue) and see if that works for you.

Daniel Heiman

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:07:59 +0200 "Jean-Marie Poirier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ??? 
> Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. 
> ;-)))
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, 
> maybe  !   )   
> 
> === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===
> 
> >
> >No problems on my end. XP.
> >RT
> >- Original Message - 
> >From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
> >Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
> >
> >
> >>I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
> >> and the official Acrobat reader...
> >>
> >> B.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
> >>>
> >>> Check out
> >>>
> >>> http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
> >>>
> >>> to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
> >>>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try 
> to open a 
> >>>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is 
> corrupt or 
> >>>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
> >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> >>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> >>> Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 
> 
> >>> 03.07.2008 19:19
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
>
>
---
> >Orange vous informe que cet  e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus 
> mail. 
> >Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
> >
> >
> 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Roman Turovsky]

Am devastated by the geographical 
distance.

RT

From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




I have some home-made in stock. You're welcome any time, Roman !

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 20:11:14 ===



Real men drink calvados.
RT

- Original Message - 
From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "lute" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ???
Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. ;-)))

Best,

Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe 


!   )

=== 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===



No problems on my end. XP.
RT
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
and the official Acrobat reader...

B.



Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.

Check out

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats

to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.




On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to 
open

a
pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt
or
whatever... Is it the same with you ?






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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

I have some home-made in stock. You're welcome any time, Roman !

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 20:11:14 ===

>
>Real men drink calvados.
>RT
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "lute" 
>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:07 PM
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
>
>
>> Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ???
>> Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. ;-)))
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe  
>> !   )
>>
>> === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===
>>
>>>
>>>No problems on my end. XP.
>>>RT
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
>>>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
>>>> and the official Acrobat reader...
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out
>>>>>
>>>>> http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
>>>>>
>>>>> to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>>> Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date:
>>>>> 03.07.2008 19:19
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Roman Turovsky]

Real men drink calvados.
RT

- Original Message - 
From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "lute" 
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ???
Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. ;-)))

Best,

Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe  
!   )


=== 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===



No problems on my end. XP.
RT
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
and the official Acrobat reader...

B.



Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.

Check out

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats

to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.




On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open 
a
pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt 
or

whatever... Is it the same with you ?






To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date:
03.07.2008 19:19











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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ??? 
Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. ;-)))

Best,

Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, maybe  !   ) 
  

=== 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===

>
>No problems on my end. XP.
>RT
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
>Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
>
>
>>I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
>> and the official Acrobat reader...
>>
>> B.
>>
>>
>>> Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
>>>
>>> Check out
>>>
>>> http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
>>>
>>> to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>>>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a 
>>>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or 
>>>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 
>>> 03.07.2008 19:19
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Roman Turovsky]

No problems on my end. XP.
RT
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Lute List" ; "The Other" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.



I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
and the official Acrobat reader...

B.



Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.

Check out

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats

to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.




On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a 
pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or 
whatever... Is it the same with you ?







To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 
03.07.2008 19:19

[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Hi back Tony,

As I  replied to Stephen, I use XP with Adobe Acrobat 8 and tried yo install 
Foxit reader, but with the same result...

I don't know what the matter is...

Best,

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 18:42:02 ===

>
>Hi Jean-Marie
>
>The message I tend to get is that the file hasn't been checked/cleared for 
>public domain, which isn't quite the same thing as corrupt. I just did the 
>Fortune my Foe one, which apparently has been cleared and it worked fine.
>
>Tony
>
>
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>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a 
>> pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or 
>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
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>>>By the way, the totally excellent International Music Score Library 
>>>project
>>>reopened on 1 July, after several months out of action following threats
>>>from over-assiduous publishers' lawyers.  Over 16,000 scanned scores of
>>>out-of-copyright musical works. A treasure.
>>>
>>>P
>>>http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Thank you for the tip, Stephen, but  like Bernd I use XP with Adobe Acrobat 8 
pro. I tried to install Foxit, as they recommend on IMSLP but had the same 
problem again...

Too bad !  Maybe someone will turn up with an answer, if not a solution ;-)

All the best et bonne soirée,

Jean-Marie

=== 04-07-2008 18:03:11 ===

>
>Bonjour Jean-Marie,
>
>I just downloaded Fortune My Foe (2 recorders and percussion line) from
>the Ancient section.  My system is Linux, Fedora Core 6 with Planet
>CCRMA extensions.
>
>Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
>
>Check out
>
>http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
>
>to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
>
>Regards,
>"The Other" Stephen Stubbs.
>
>
>On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a pdf 
>> from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or 
>> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
>> 
>
>
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Bernd Haegemann]

I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
and the official Acrobat reader...

B.



Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.

Check out

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats

to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.




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site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or whatever... Is it the same with 
you ?







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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[The Other]

Bonjour Jean-Marie,

I just downloaded Fortune My Foe (2 recorders and percussion line) from
the Ancient section.  My system is Linux, Fedora Core 6 with Planet
CCRMA extensions.

Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.

Check out

http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats

to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.

Regards,
"The Other" Stephen Stubbs.


On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
> Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a pdf 
> from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or 
> whatever... Is it the same with you ?
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try to open a pdf 
from their site I get a message error saying the file is corrupt or whatever... 
Is it the same with you ?

=== 02-07-2008 19:09:22 ===

>By the way, the totally excellent International Music Score Library project
>reopened on 1 July, after several months out of action following threats
>from over-assiduous publishers' lawyers.  Over 16,000 scanned scores of
>out-of-copyright musical works. A treasure.
>
>P
>http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Peter Martin]

Thanks Jean-Marie.  I've added the Firenze 'theorbo' book to my companion
database of lute and early music books at:
http://creator.zoho.com/peterskeeter/lute-and-early-music-books/view/2/

Keep me informed about new sightings of online facsimiles and I will add
them.

By the way, the totally excellent International Music Score Library project
reopened on 1 July, after several months out of action following threats
from over-assiduous publishers' lawyers.  Over 16,000 scanned scores of
out-of-copyright musical works. A treasure.

P


http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page


2008/7/2 Jean-Marie Poirier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> An excellent collection of links to facsimiles online, not especailly
> theorbo, but mostly lute.
>
>
> http://creator.zoho.com/peterskeeter/online-sources-of-lute-and-early-music/view/1/
>
> Thank you "Peter Skeeter" for your initiative !
>
> Jean-Marie
>
> === 02-07-2008 04:36:00 ===
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> >
> >Probably an already asked question:
> >
> >where to find free facsimiles for theorbo/chitarrone music on the
> internet?
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> >Thanks.
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Jean-Marie Poirier]

 Hi Marco,

One place to start : 
http://www.bncf.firenze.sbn.it/Bib_digitale/Manoscritti/M19_105/main.htm

There are more but I'm on my way to work ;-( I'll try to gather more links 
later on.

Haave a good day,

Jean-Marie

=== 02-07-2008 04:36:00 ===

>
>Probably an already asked question:
>
>where to find free facsimiles for theorbo/chitarrone music on the internet?
>
>Thanks.
>
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