Problems with 1.1.5pre3

2000-05-30 Thread Olof Liungman

Hi!

I'm a TeX/LyX newbie who's been using 1.1.4 without problems (great freeware :D! 
I'm now writing all my papers in LyX and feeling sorry for my poor colleagues 
who use Word under Windoze...). However, upon installing and using 1.1.5pre3 I 
encountered the following problems (Solaris 2.6, SPARCstation 5, GCC 2.8.1).

1) When running 'configure' I used --with-lyxname="lyx-1.1.5". The compilation 
worked fine, but when I ran 'make install' my old lyx binary in /usr/local/bin 
was overwritten (?) with the new binary using the same name as my old version, 
'lyx'. However, the directory /usr/local/share/lyx-1.1.5 was created, and when 
starting LyX ~/.lyx-1.1.5 was created. Is this a bug?

2) When opening a document written in 1.1.4 everything looks fine. However, when 
I want to view the dvi or postscript file (File - View dvi) the LaTeX run 
produces the following errors and fails (from the LaTeX log):

Illegal parameter number in definition of \reserved@a.

Fig.~8).}

You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere 
earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.

The piece of text is from the end of a figure caption in a figure float. 
According to the coding in the lyx-file there is no excess '}'. Below follows 
the caption text extracted using cut-and-paste:

Entrainment rate E as a function of s=\sin \varphi . The simple formula 
([eq:E_bope80_simple]) is compared to ([eq:E_bope80]), as tabulated in Table 5.4 
of \citeN{bope80} for the lower values of C_{D}, and the results of 
\citeN{eltu59} (determined from the fitted curve in their Fig. 8).

Now, the interesting part is that if I remove the citations everything works 
(?)! Putting them back produces the same errors again. Is this a bug in 
1.1.5pre3, that one cannot have citations in figure captions?

Cheers,

Olof




Nested includes

2000-05-30 Thread Michael Zapf

Hello,

I'm about to start writing my thesis and considered using LyX. Before, I try to
find out if I can do everything with LyX I actually planned to do using LaTeX.
One of the most important things is to create a main document that imports
subdocuments. However, I found that documents that are included by a document
which is included in the main document seem to stay unprocessed, giving the
error "LaTeX error: File 'tex' not found".

I took a look in the archive and actually found similar questions, but no good
hint whether this feature is intended to work or not.

LaTeX itself actually supports nested \inputs. What about LyX? (I'm using LyX
1.1.4fix3.)

Michael
--
* Michael Zapf  ---  http://www.vsb.cs.uni-frankfurt.de/~zapf/
* Fachbereich Informatik, Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme
* (Dept. of Comp.Science, Distributed Systems and Operating Systems)
* Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main





Viewing a file

2000-05-30 Thread thomas schönhoff

Hello to all,
recently I tired to view a lyx-file with "gv" in
Lyx1.1.5pre3 and got two errors:

1. Paragraph ended before\@item was complete
(LaTex error)

2.LaTex error: \beginn{list} on inputline 91 ended
by \end{document}.
\end{document}

When loading the same file into Lyx1.1.4 and
viewing it under "gv" no errors occure, everything
is fine...!?
Any comments ???  :-))


Greetings Thomas



Re: Viewing a file

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "thomas" == thomas schönhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

thomas Hello to all, recently I tired to view a lyx-file with "gv" in
thomas Lyx1.1.5pre3 and got two errors:

thomas 1. Paragraph ended before\@item was complete (LaTex error)

thomas 2.LaTex error: \beginn{list} on inputline 91 ended by
thomas \end{document}. \end{document}

thomas When loading the same file into Lyx1.1.4 and viewing it under
thomas "gv" no errors occure, everything is fine...!? Any comments
thomas ??? :-))

One thing to consider is that, since LyX 1.1.4fix2, the parsing of
LaTeX errors has much improved. This may mean that your document is
indeed wrong, but LyX did not notice it before.

We'd have to see an actual document to tell what is wrong.

JMarc



Re: math delimiters too big

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Ralph" == Ralph Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ralph This allows me use use math delimiters very convieniently.
Ralph Unfortunately I find the delimiters to be too large. Is there a
Ralph way to force them to be slightly smaller?

Not really, since the \left...\right constructs used are built into
TeX. Another solution is to use \bigl(...\bigr) constructs by hand
(where you get to specify the actual size of delimiters you want), as
explained in amsmath documentation (these exist in plain latex too).

This is however not supported natively by mathed.

Ralph P.S. Does anybody besides me find the math delimiters to be too
Ralph large?

Do you mean on screen or on paper? My answer was to the later, of
course. 

JMarc



numbering lines...

2000-05-30 Thread Jacobo Myerston

knows somebody how to number lines in the style "verse"?





Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Roland Krause

Hi, 
I am a long time LyX user and I am kind of in trouble. I am giving a
presentation on Friday and I kinda bet on that I can do it with LyX/pstricks
just as good as with Powerpoint. The presentation has lots and lots of formulas
and some screenshots too. 

I am using foiltex with a modified layout file that lets me put graded
background behind the slides. Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can
not get pdflatex to work with  pstricks. 
My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the projector
especially the math fonts. 
So what can I do, I know there was a lengthy discussion on Type1 fonts here
lately but I dont understand the whole issue 
Can anyone clue me in on this or give me pointer where to find
__comprehensive__ (Remember I am under time pressure big time :-) information?
Are there fonts optimized for the screen, i.e. 75dpi ?
Are there better math fonts than the default? And most importantly how would I
use these? 
Any clues on how to get figures (gif png whatever) into the presentation
without scaling these, i.e. in there original resolution so they dont look
crappy? 

I very much appreciate any help on this. Yes, I will start earlier next
time but some things never change

PS: If anybody is interested in how to use these graded backgrounds in
combination with foiltex and the foils layout I'll be happy to write a
mini-howto and summarize the process of making presentations for scientific
purposes with LyX after this is over.

Thanks a lot

Roland
-- 
Roland Krause
Visiting Research Associate - Center for Computational Mechanics
Washington University, Saint Louis



Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Torsten Mueller


My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the projector
especially the math fonts. 

you could try:
\usepackage{times}
\usepackage{mathptm}

in the preamble.


Torsten




Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien


From: Roland Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Presentation
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:21:15 -0500

Hi, 
I am a long time LyX user and I am kind of in trouble. I am giving a
presentation on Friday and I kinda bet on that I can do it with LyX/pstricks
just as good as with Powerpoint. The presentation has lots and lots of 
formulas
and some screenshots too. 

I am using foiltex with a modified layout file that lets me put graded
background behind the slides. Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can
not get pdflatex to work with  pstricks. 
My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the 
projector
especially the math fonts.

Don't know for math, but helvetica adobe should be used for text fonts:
\usepackage{times}
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault}

So what can I do, I know there was a lengthy discussion on Type1 fonts here
lately but I dont understand the whole issue 
Can anyone clue me in on this or give me pointer where to find
__comprehensive__ (Remember I am under time pressure big time :-) information?
Are there fonts optimized for the screen, i.e. 75dpi ?
Are there better math fonts than the default? And most importantly how would I
use these? 
Any clues on how to get figures (gif png whatever) into the presentation
without scaling these, i.e. in there original resolution so they dont look
crappy?

scale the graphs to the final size using convert, like
convert -geometry 50% foo.png foo.eps
IM gurus should know better perhaps about how to improve resolution.

I very much appreciate any help on this. Yes, I will start earlier next
time but some things never change

I suppose you need pdf to have it full screen, I have a perl script here
which rewrites the viewgraphs as 4/3 (i.e. 29x21 PORTRAIT).
If you need it let me know.


-- 
Jean-Pierre




Re: numbering lines...

2000-05-30 Thread Herbert Voss

Jacobo Myerston wrote:
 
 knows somebody how to number lines in the style "verse"?

use the package lineno.sty
in latex preamble: 

\usepackage[]{lineno}

in LyX-file:

\begin{linenumbers}
 .
bla bla bla the text
 .
\end{linenumbers}

e.g. for options: [switch*,modulo]
linenumbers allways on the inner margin and modulo 5. 

the package is availabe at TeX Archive Network (CTAN) or 
http://www.desy.de/%7Estephan/tex/lineno/ 

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/voss



Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Roger Williams

 Roland Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   ... Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can not get
   pdflatex to work with pstricks.  My problem is of course the
   fonts... They just look crappy on the projector  especially
   the math fonts.

For now, I'd suggest using pstill instead of ps2pdf (sorry, Peter).  

http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html

I generate 40 - 100 foils every week, and this has always worked very
well for me.

I've never had any problem using our standard T1 font set (Sabon, Gill
Sans, mathptm) with this approach either.  If you want more help with
my approach to T1 fonts under LaTeX, drop me a private email.

-- 
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Coelacanth Engineering Incconsulting  turnkey product development
Middleborough, Massachusetts   wireless * datacomm * DSP * ATE
tel +1 508 947-5585 * fax +1 508 861-0278 * http://www.coelacanth.com/



Using pybliographic with LyX

2000-05-30 Thread Bruce Veidt

I am trying to get pybliographic 1.0 to work with LyX 1.1.4fix3
on a Redhat 6.2 system but without success.  Here is what I have done:

I have added this line to ~/.lyx/lyxrc:

  \serverpipe "~/.lyx/lyxpipe"

Started lyx.
Started pybliographic.
Selected reference in pybliographic and clicked on cite.
Nothing appears in the lyx window.
What I get is a pybliographic message box that says:

  "Can't connect to LyX: no input pipe `~/.lyx/lyxpipe.in'"

Checking ~/.lyx/ I can see lyxpipe.in  lyxpipe.out being created
and destroyed.  (Lyx seems to be grabbing lots of cpu cycles when
lyxserver is turned on.)

Does anyone else have these versions of lyx  pybliographic working
together?  What is the problem?

Thanks,

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Veidt 
National Research Council   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Box 248 (250)493-2277
Penticton, BC  V2A 6K3  fax: 493-7767
Canada



Re: Using pybliographic with LyX

2000-05-30 Thread Staffan Ringbom

Bruce Veidt wrote:

 I am trying to get pybliographic 1.0 to work with LyX 1.1.4fix3
 on a Redhat 6.2 system but without success.  Here is what I have done:

 I have added this line to ~/.lyx/lyxrc:

   \serverpipe "~/.lyx/lyxpipe"

 Started lyx.
 Started pybliographic.


HERE did you select Insert -List  TOC-bibtex reference
Did you install the bibtex with the entire path.
Unless you have done it here, Pybliographer does not know what to do.

 Selected reference in pybliographic and clicked on cite.
 Nothing appears in the lyx window.
 What I get is a pybliographic message box that says:

   "Can't connect to LyX: no input pipe `~/.lyx/lyxpipe.in'"

 Checking ~/.lyx/ I can see lyxpipe.in  lyxpipe.out being created
 and destroyed.  (Lyx seems to be grabbing lots of cpu cycles when
 lyxserver is turned on.)

 Does anyone else have these versions of lyx  pybliographic working
 together?  What is the problem?

 Thanks,

 Bruce
 --
 Bruce Veidt
 National Research Council   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Box 248 (250)493-2277
 Penticton, BC  V2A 6K3  fax: 493-7767
 Canada

--

Staffan Ringbom
Assistant Professor in Economics
Department of Economics
Swedish School of Economics and Business Administration
PO Box 479
FIN-00101 Helsinki
Finland

Visiting adress: Arkadiagatan 22

Phone: +358-9-4313 3416
Fax:   +358-9-4313 3382
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Nested includes

2000-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Michael Zapf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Hello,
| 
| I'm about to start writing my thesis and considered using LyX. Before, I try to
| find out if I can do everything with LyX I actually planned to do using LaTeX.
| One of the most important things is to create a main document that imports
| subdocuments. However, I found that documents that are included by a document
| which is included in the main document seem to stay unprocessed, giving the
| error "LaTeX error: File 'tex' not found".
| 
| I took a look in the archive and actually found similar questions, but no good
| hint whether this feature is intended to work or not.
| 
| LaTeX itself actually supports nested \inputs. What about LyX? (I'm using LyX
| 1.1.4fix3.)

Nested inputs are allowed, but not nested includes.

You can use include on the first level, but have to use input to get
deeper than that.

Lgb




help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread richard fell

I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
correctly installed on your system.


Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
files. Thanks for any and all help,
Dick Fell



Re: lyx 1.5.1 pre3 crash

2000-05-30 Thread Shawn Koons

Hello:

Can I safely update ver1.1.5pre3.rpm with the cvs version listed on the
developers page? I have never attempted this and do not want to lose
anything I have in place. 

Shawn Koons


 2. loading my
 Herbert actual lyx-file and clicking on TOC or Refs lyx always
 Herbert crashs.
 
 I _think_ it is fixed in latest cvs version.
 
 JMarc

-- 
Mitakuye Oyasin



Re: help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 01:40:31PM -0400, richard fell wrote:
 I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
 error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
 ** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
 correctly installed on your system.
 
 Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
 redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
 directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
 files. Thanks for any and all help,
 Dick Fell

Can you give me the results of ``rpm -qil xforms''?

You can try just installing the RPMs on my machine:

ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx

There is an xforms RPM there that works for Intel-based Redhat 6.X systems.

If you have problems, Email me.

---Kayvan
-- 
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Sylvan Associates, Inc.| Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena
http://www.successlinks.com/kayvan | Reach your goals now! | Robin Gregory



Re: help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread thomas schönhoff


Hello Richard,



richard fell wrote:
 
 I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
 error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
 ** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
 correctly installed on your system.
 
 Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
 redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
 directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
 files. Thanks for any and all help,
 Dick Fell

I've installed the libs at /usr/lib and
usr/X11R6/include/X11/xforms/FORMS;
recently I encountered the same problem and
desperately installed Lyx with

rpm -nodeps blabla (have look at the rpm manpage
if nescessary !)
Now it works fine with me !

Greetings Thomas




Problems with 1.1.5pre3

2000-05-30 Thread Olof Liungman

Hi!

I'm a TeX/LyX newbie who's been using 1.1.4 without problems (great freeware :D! 
I'm now writing all my papers in LyX and feeling sorry for my poor colleagues 
who use Word under Windoze...). However, upon installing and using 1.1.5pre3 I 
encountered the following problems (Solaris 2.6, SPARCstation 5, GCC 2.8.1).

1) When running 'configure' I used --with-lyxname="lyx-1.1.5". The compilation 
worked fine, but when I ran 'make install' my old lyx binary in /usr/local/bin 
was overwritten (?) with the new binary using the same name as my old version, 
'lyx'. However, the directory /usr/local/share/lyx-1.1.5 was created, and when 
starting LyX ~/.lyx-1.1.5 was created. Is this a bug?

2) When opening a document written in 1.1.4 everything looks fine. However, when 
I want to view the dvi or postscript file (File - View dvi) the LaTeX run 
produces the following errors and fails (from the LaTeX log):

Illegal parameter number in definition of \reserved@a.

Fig.~8).}

You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere 
earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.

The piece of text is from the end of a figure caption in a figure float. 
According to the coding in the lyx-file there is no excess '}'. Below follows 
the caption text extracted using cut-and-paste:

Entrainment rate E as a function of s=\sin \varphi . The simple formula 
([eq:E_bope80_simple]) is compared to ([eq:E_bope80]), as tabulated in Table 5.4 
of \citeN{bope80} for the lower values of C_{D}, and the results of 
\citeN{eltu59} (determined from the fitted curve in their Fig. 8).

Now, the interesting part is that if I remove the citations everything works 
(?)! Putting them back produces the same errors again. Is this a bug in 
1.1.5pre3, that one cannot have citations in figure captions?

Cheers,

Olof




Nested includes

2000-05-30 Thread Michael Zapf

Hello,

I'm about to start writing my thesis and considered using LyX. Before, I try to
find out if I can do everything with LyX I actually planned to do using LaTeX.
One of the most important things is to create a main document that imports
subdocuments. However, I found that documents that are included by a document
which is included in the main document seem to stay unprocessed, giving the
error "LaTeX error: File 'tex' not found".

I took a look in the archive and actually found similar questions, but no good
hint whether this feature is intended to work or not.

LaTeX itself actually supports nested \inputs. What about LyX? (I'm using LyX
1.1.4fix3.)

Michael
--
* Michael Zapf  ---  http://www.vsb.cs.uni-frankfurt.de/~zapf/
* Fachbereich Informatik, Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme
* (Dept. of Comp.Science, Distributed Systems and Operating Systems)
* Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main





Viewing a file

2000-05-30 Thread thomas schönhoff

Hello to all,
recently I tired to view a lyx-file with "gv" in
Lyx1.1.5pre3 and got two errors:

1. Paragraph ended before\@item was complete
(LaTex error)

2.LaTex error: \beginn{list} on inputline 91 ended
by \end{document}.
\end{document}

When loading the same file into Lyx1.1.4 and
viewing it under "gv" no errors occure, everything
is fine...!?
Any comments ???  :-))


Greetings Thomas



Re: Viewing a file

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "thomas" == thomas schönhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

thomas Hello to all, recently I tired to view a lyx-file with "gv" in
thomas Lyx1.1.5pre3 and got two errors:

thomas 1. Paragraph ended before\@item was complete (LaTex error)

thomas 2.LaTex error: \beginn{list} on inputline 91 ended by
thomas \end{document}. \end{document}

thomas When loading the same file into Lyx1.1.4 and viewing it under
thomas "gv" no errors occure, everything is fine...!? Any comments
thomas ??? :-))

One thing to consider is that, since LyX 1.1.4fix2, the parsing of
LaTeX errors has much improved. This may mean that your document is
indeed wrong, but LyX did not notice it before.

We'd have to see an actual document to tell what is wrong.

JMarc



Re: math delimiters too big

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

 "Ralph" == Ralph Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ralph This allows me use use math delimiters very convieniently.
Ralph Unfortunately I find the delimiters to be too large. Is there a
Ralph way to force them to be slightly smaller?

Not really, since the \left...\right constructs used are built into
TeX. Another solution is to use \bigl(...\bigr) constructs by hand
(where you get to specify the actual size of delimiters you want), as
explained in amsmath documentation (these exist in plain latex too).

This is however not supported natively by mathed.

Ralph P.S. Does anybody besides me find the math delimiters to be too
Ralph large?

Do you mean on screen or on paper? My answer was to the later, of
course. 

JMarc



numbering lines...

2000-05-30 Thread Jacobo Myerston

knows somebody how to number lines in the style "verse"?





Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Roland Krause

Hi, 
I am a long time LyX user and I am kind of in trouble. I am giving a
presentation on Friday and I kinda bet on that I can do it with LyX/pstricks
just as good as with Powerpoint. The presentation has lots and lots of formulas
and some screenshots too. 

I am using foiltex with a modified layout file that lets me put graded
background behind the slides. Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can
not get pdflatex to work with  pstricks. 
My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the projector
especially the math fonts. 
So what can I do, I know there was a lengthy discussion on Type1 fonts here
lately but I dont understand the whole issue 
Can anyone clue me in on this or give me pointer where to find
__comprehensive__ (Remember I am under time pressure big time :-) information?
Are there fonts optimized for the screen, i.e. 75dpi ?
Are there better math fonts than the default? And most importantly how would I
use these? 
Any clues on how to get figures (gif png whatever) into the presentation
without scaling these, i.e. in there original resolution so they dont look
crappy? 

I very much appreciate any help on this. Yes, I will start earlier next
time but some things never change

PS: If anybody is interested in how to use these graded backgrounds in
combination with foiltex and the foils layout I'll be happy to write a
mini-howto and summarize the process of making presentations for scientific
purposes with LyX after this is over.

Thanks a lot

Roland
-- 
Roland Krause
Visiting Research Associate - Center for Computational Mechanics
Washington University, Saint Louis



Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Torsten Mueller


My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the projector
especially the math fonts. 

you could try:
\usepackage{times}
\usepackage{mathptm}

in the preamble.


Torsten




Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien


From: Roland Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Presentation
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:21:15 -0500

Hi, 
I am a long time LyX user and I am kind of in trouble. I am giving a
presentation on Friday and I kinda bet on that I can do it with LyX/pstricks
just as good as with Powerpoint. The presentation has lots and lots of 
formulas
and some screenshots too. 

I am using foiltex with a modified layout file that lets me put graded
background behind the slides. Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can
not get pdflatex to work with  pstricks. 
My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the 
projector
especially the math fonts.

Don't know for math, but helvetica adobe should be used for text fonts:
\usepackage{times}
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault}

So what can I do, I know there was a lengthy discussion on Type1 fonts here
lately but I dont understand the whole issue 
Can anyone clue me in on this or give me pointer where to find
__comprehensive__ (Remember I am under time pressure big time :-) information?
Are there fonts optimized for the screen, i.e. 75dpi ?
Are there better math fonts than the default? And most importantly how would I
use these? 
Any clues on how to get figures (gif png whatever) into the presentation
without scaling these, i.e. in there original resolution so they dont look
crappy?

scale the graphs to the final size using convert, like
convert -geometry 50% foo.png foo.eps
IM gurus should know better perhaps about how to improve resolution.

I very much appreciate any help on this. Yes, I will start earlier next
time but some things never change

I suppose you need pdf to have it full screen, I have a perl script here
which rewrites the viewgraphs as 4/3 (i.e. 29x21 PORTRAIT).
If you need it let me know.


-- 
Jean-Pierre




Re: numbering lines...

2000-05-30 Thread Herbert Voss

Jacobo Myerston wrote:
 
 knows somebody how to number lines in the style "verse"?

use the package lineno.sty
in latex preamble: 

\usepackage[]{lineno}

in LyX-file:

\begin{linenumbers}
 .
bla bla bla the text
 .
\end{linenumbers}

e.g. for options: [switch*,modulo]
linenumbers allways on the inner margin and modulo 5. 

the package is availabe at TeX Archive Network (CTAN) or 
http://www.desy.de/%7Estephan/tex/lineno/ 

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/voss



Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Roger Williams

 Roland Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   ... Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can not get
   pdflatex to work with pstricks.  My problem is of course the
   fonts... They just look crappy on the projector  especially
   the math fonts.

For now, I'd suggest using pstill instead of ps2pdf (sorry, Peter).  

http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html

I generate 40 - 100 foils every week, and this has always worked very
well for me.

I've never had any problem using our standard T1 font set (Sabon, Gill
Sans, mathptm) with this approach either.  If you want more help with
my approach to T1 fonts under LaTeX, drop me a private email.

-- 
Roger Williams finger me for my PGP public key
Coelacanth Engineering Incconsulting  turnkey product development
Middleborough, Massachusetts   wireless * datacomm * DSP * ATE
tel +1 508 947-5585 * fax +1 508 861-0278 * http://www.coelacanth.com/



Using pybliographic with LyX

2000-05-30 Thread Bruce Veidt

I am trying to get pybliographic 1.0 to work with LyX 1.1.4fix3
on a Redhat 6.2 system but without success.  Here is what I have done:

I have added this line to ~/.lyx/lyxrc:

  \serverpipe "~/.lyx/lyxpipe"

Started lyx.
Started pybliographic.
Selected reference in pybliographic and clicked on cite.
Nothing appears in the lyx window.
What I get is a pybliographic message box that says:

  "Can't connect to LyX: no input pipe `~/.lyx/lyxpipe.in'"

Checking ~/.lyx/ I can see lyxpipe.in  lyxpipe.out being created
and destroyed.  (Lyx seems to be grabbing lots of cpu cycles when
lyxserver is turned on.)

Does anyone else have these versions of lyx  pybliographic working
together?  What is the problem?

Thanks,

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Veidt 
National Research Council   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Box 248 (250)493-2277
Penticton, BC  V2A 6K3  fax: 493-7767
Canada



Re: Using pybliographic with LyX

2000-05-30 Thread Staffan Ringbom

Bruce Veidt wrote:

 I am trying to get pybliographic 1.0 to work with LyX 1.1.4fix3
 on a Redhat 6.2 system but without success.  Here is what I have done:

 I have added this line to ~/.lyx/lyxrc:

   \serverpipe "~/.lyx/lyxpipe"

 Started lyx.
 Started pybliographic.


HERE did you select Insert -List  TOC-bibtex reference
Did you install the bibtex with the entire path.
Unless you have done it here, Pybliographer does not know what to do.

 Selected reference in pybliographic and clicked on cite.
 Nothing appears in the lyx window.
 What I get is a pybliographic message box that says:

   "Can't connect to LyX: no input pipe `~/.lyx/lyxpipe.in'"

 Checking ~/.lyx/ I can see lyxpipe.in  lyxpipe.out being created
 and destroyed.  (Lyx seems to be grabbing lots of cpu cycles when
 lyxserver is turned on.)

 Does anyone else have these versions of lyx  pybliographic working
 together?  What is the problem?

 Thanks,

 Bruce
 --
 Bruce Veidt
 National Research Council   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Box 248 (250)493-2277
 Penticton, BC  V2A 6K3  fax: 493-7767
 Canada

--

Staffan Ringbom
Assistant Professor in Economics
Department of Economics
Swedish School of Economics and Business Administration
PO Box 479
FIN-00101 Helsinki
Finland

Visiting adress: Arkadiagatan 22

Phone: +358-9-4313 3416
Fax:   +358-9-4313 3382
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Nested includes

2000-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Michael Zapf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Hello,
| 
| I'm about to start writing my thesis and considered using LyX. Before, I try to
| find out if I can do everything with LyX I actually planned to do using LaTeX.
| One of the most important things is to create a main document that imports
| subdocuments. However, I found that documents that are included by a document
| which is included in the main document seem to stay unprocessed, giving the
| error "LaTeX error: File 'tex' not found".
| 
| I took a look in the archive and actually found similar questions, but no good
| hint whether this feature is intended to work or not.
| 
| LaTeX itself actually supports nested \inputs. What about LyX? (I'm using LyX
| 1.1.4fix3.)

Nested inputs are allowed, but not nested includes.

You can use include on the first level, but have to use input to get
deeper than that.

Lgb




help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread richard fell

I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
correctly installed on your system.


Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
files. Thanks for any and all help,
Dick Fell



Re: lyx 1.5.1 pre3 crash

2000-05-30 Thread Shawn Koons

Hello:

Can I safely update ver1.1.5pre3.rpm with the cvs version listed on the
developers page? I have never attempted this and do not want to lose
anything I have in place. 

Shawn Koons


 2. loading my
 Herbert actual lyx-file and clicking on TOC or Refs lyx always
 Herbert crashs.
 
 I _think_ it is fixed in latest cvs version.
 
 JMarc

-- 
Mitakuye Oyasin



Re: help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 01:40:31PM -0400, richard fell wrote:
 I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
 error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
 ** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
 correctly installed on your system.
 
 Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
 redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
 directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
 files. Thanks for any and all help,
 Dick Fell

Can you give me the results of ``rpm -qil xforms''?

You can try just installing the RPMs on my machine:

ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx

There is an xforms RPM there that works for Intel-based Redhat 6.X systems.

If you have problems, Email me.

---Kayvan
-- 
Kayvan A. Sylvan   | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.| Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena
http://www.successlinks.com/kayvan | Reach your goals now! | Robin Gregory



Re: help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread thomas schönhoff


Hello Richard,



richard fell wrote:
 
 I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
 error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
 ** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
 correctly installed on your system.
 
 Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
 redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
 directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
 files. Thanks for any and all help,
 Dick Fell

I've installed the libs at /usr/lib and
usr/X11R6/include/X11/xforms/FORMS;
recently I encountered the same problem and
desperately installed Lyx with

rpm -nodeps blabla (have look at the rpm manpage
if nescessary !)
Now it works fine with me !

Greetings Thomas




Problems with 1.1.5pre3

2000-05-30 Thread Olof Liungman

Hi!

I'm a TeX/LyX newbie who's been using 1.1.4 without problems (great freeware :D! 
I'm now writing all my papers in LyX and feeling sorry for my poor colleagues 
who use Word under Windoze...). However, upon installing and using 1.1.5pre3 I 
encountered the following problems (Solaris 2.6, SPARCstation 5, GCC 2.8.1).

1) When running 'configure' I used --with-lyxname="lyx-1.1.5". The compilation 
worked fine, but when I ran 'make install' my old lyx binary in /usr/local/bin 
was overwritten (?) with the new binary using the same name as my old version, 
'lyx'. However, the directory /usr/local/share/lyx-1.1.5 was created, and when 
starting LyX ~/.lyx-1.1.5 was created. Is this a bug?

2) When opening a document written in 1.1.4 everything looks fine. However, when 
I want to view the dvi or postscript file (File -> View dvi) the LaTeX run 
produces the following errors and fails (from the LaTeX log):

Illegal parameter number in definition of \reserved@a.

Fig.~8).}

You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere 
earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.

The piece of text is from the end of a figure caption in a figure float. 
According to the coding in the lyx-file there is no excess '}'. Below follows 
the caption text extracted using cut-and-paste:

Entrainment rate E as a function of s=\sin \varphi . The simple formula 
([eq:E_bope80_simple]) is compared to ([eq:E_bope80]), as tabulated in Table 5.4 
of \citeN{bope80} for the lower values of C_{D}, and the results of 
\citeN{eltu59} (determined from the fitted curve in their Fig. 8).

Now, the interesting part is that if I remove the citations everything works 
(?)! Putting them back produces the same errors again. Is this a bug in 
1.1.5pre3, that one cannot have citations in figure captions?

Cheers,

Olof




Nested includes

2000-05-30 Thread Michael Zapf

Hello,

I'm about to start writing my thesis and considered using LyX. Before, I try to
find out if I can do everything with LyX I actually planned to do using LaTeX.
One of the most important things is to create a main document that imports
subdocuments. However, I found that documents that are included by a document
which is included in the main document seem to stay unprocessed, giving the
error "LaTeX error: File 'tex' not found".

I took a look in the archive and actually found similar questions, but no good
hint whether this feature is intended to work or not.

LaTeX itself actually supports nested \inputs. What about LyX? (I'm using LyX
1.1.4fix3.)

Michael
--
* Michael Zapf  ---  http://www.vsb.cs.uni-frankfurt.de/~zapf/
* Fachbereich Informatik, Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme
* (Dept. of Comp.Science, Distributed Systems and Operating Systems)
* Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main





Viewing a file

2000-05-30 Thread thomas schönhoff

Hello to all,
recently I tired to view a lyx-file with "gv" in
Lyx1.1.5pre3 and got two errors:

1. Paragraph ended before\@item was complete
(LaTex error)

2.LaTex error: \beginn{list} on inputline 91 ended
by \end{document}.
\end{document}

When loading the same file into Lyx1.1.4 and
viewing it under "gv" no errors occure, everything
is fine...!?
Any comments ???  :-))


Greetings Thomas



Re: Viewing a file

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "thomas" == thomas schönhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

thomas> Hello to all, recently I tired to view a lyx-file with "gv" in
thomas> Lyx1.1.5pre3 and got two errors:

thomas> 1. Paragraph ended before\@item was complete (LaTex error)

thomas> 2.LaTex error: \beginn{list} on inputline 91 ended by
thomas> \end{document}. \end{document}

thomas> When loading the same file into Lyx1.1.4 and viewing it under
thomas> "gv" no errors occure, everything is fine...!? Any comments
thomas> ??? :-))

One thing to consider is that, since LyX 1.1.4fix2, the parsing of
LaTeX errors has much improved. This may mean that your document is
indeed wrong, but LyX did not notice it before.

We'd have to see an actual document to tell what is wrong.

JMarc



Re: math delimiters too big

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

> "Ralph" == Ralph Boland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ralph> This allows me use use math delimiters very convieniently.
Ralph> Unfortunately I find the delimiters to be too large. Is there a
Ralph> way to force them to be slightly smaller?

Not really, since the \left...\right constructs used are built into
TeX. Another solution is to use \bigl(...\bigr) constructs by hand
(where you get to specify the actual size of delimiters you want), as
explained in amsmath documentation (these exist in plain latex too).

This is however not supported natively by mathed.

Ralph> P.S. Does anybody besides me find the math delimiters to be too
Ralph> large?

Do you mean on screen or on paper? My answer was to the later, of
course. 

JMarc



numbering lines...

2000-05-30 Thread Jacobo Myerston

knows somebody how to number lines in the style "verse"?





Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Roland Krause

Hi, 
I am a long time LyX user and I am kind of in trouble. I am giving a
presentation on Friday and I kinda bet on that I can do it with LyX/pstricks
just as good as with Powerpoint. The presentation has lots and lots of formulas
and some screenshots too. 

I am using foiltex with a modified layout file that lets me put graded
background behind the slides. Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can
not get pdflatex to work with  pstricks. 
My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the projector
especially the math fonts. 
So what can I do, I know there was a lengthy discussion on Type1 fonts here
lately but I dont understand the whole issue 
Can anyone clue me in on this or give me pointer where to find
__comprehensive__ (Remember I am under time pressure big time :-) information?
Are there fonts optimized for the screen, i.e. 75dpi ?
Are there better math fonts than the default? And most importantly how would I
use these? 
Any clues on how to get figures (gif png whatever) into the presentation
without scaling these, i.e. in there original resolution so they dont look
crappy? 

I very much appreciate any help on this. Yes, I will start earlier next
time but some things never change

PS: If anybody is interested in how to use these graded backgrounds in
combination with foiltex and the foils layout I'll be happy to write a
mini-howto and summarize the process of making presentations for scientific
purposes with LyX after this is over.

Thanks a lot

Roland
-- 
Roland Krause
Visiting Research Associate - Center for Computational Mechanics
Washington University, Saint Louis



Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Torsten Mueller


>My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the projector
>especially the math fonts. 

you could try:
\usepackage{times}
\usepackage{mathptm}

in the preamble.


Torsten




Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien


>>From: Roland Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Presentation
>>Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:21:15 -0500
>>
>>Hi, 
>>I am a long time LyX user and I am kind of in trouble. I am giving a
>>presentation on Friday and I kinda bet on that I can do it with LyX/pstricks
>>just as good as with Powerpoint. The presentation has lots and lots of 
formulas
>>and some screenshots too. 
>>
>>I am using foiltex with a modified layout file that lets me put graded
>>background behind the slides. Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can
>>not get pdflatex to work with  pstricks. 
>>My problem is of course the fonts... They just look crappy on the 
projector
>>especially the math fonts.

Don't know for math, but helvetica adobe should be used for text fonts:
\usepackage{times}
\renewcommand{\familydefault}{\sfdefault}

>>So what can I do, I know there was a lengthy discussion on Type1 fonts here
>>lately but I dont understand the whole issue 
>>Can anyone clue me in on this or give me pointer where to find
>>__comprehensive__ (Remember I am under time pressure big time :-) information?
>>Are there fonts optimized for the screen, i.e. 75dpi ?
>>Are there better math fonts than the default? And most importantly how would I
>>use these? 
>>Any clues on how to get figures (gif png whatever) into the presentation
>>without scaling these, i.e. in there original resolution so they dont look
>>crappy?

scale the graphs to the final size using convert, like
convert -geometry 50% foo.png foo.eps
IM gurus should know better perhaps about how to improve resolution.

>>I very much appreciate any help on this. Yes, I will start earlier next
>>time but some things never change

I suppose you need pdf to have it full screen, I have a perl script here
which rewrites the viewgraphs as 4/3 (i.e. 29x21 PORTRAIT).
If you need it let me know.


-- 
Jean-Pierre




Re: numbering lines...

2000-05-30 Thread Herbert Voss

Jacobo Myerston wrote:
> 
> knows somebody how to number lines in the style "verse"?

use the package lineno.sty
in latex preamble: 

\usepackage[]{lineno}

in LyX-file:

\begin{linenumbers}
 .
bla bla bla the text
 .
\end{linenumbers}

e.g. for options: [switch*,modulo]
linenumbers allways on the inner margin and modulo 5. 

the package is availabe at TeX Archive Network (CTAN) or 
http://www.desy.de/%7Estephan/tex/lineno/ 

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://perce.de/voss



Re: Presentation

2000-05-30 Thread Roger Williams

> Roland Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  > ... Then I convert to pdf with ps2pdf because I can not get
  > pdflatex to work with pstricks.  My problem is of course the
  > fonts... They just look crappy on the projector  especially
  > the math fonts.

For now, I'd suggest using pstill instead of ps2pdf (sorry, Peter).  

http://www.this.net/~frank/pstill.html

I generate 40 - 100 foils every week, and this has always worked very
well for me.

I've never had any problem using our standard T1 font set (Sabon, Gill
Sans, mathptm) with this approach either.  If you want more help with
my approach to T1 fonts under LaTeX, drop me a private email.

-- 
Roger Williams finger me for my PGP public key
Coelacanth Engineering Incconsulting & turnkey product development
Middleborough, Massachusetts   wireless * datacomm * DSP * ATE
tel +1 508 947-5585 * fax +1 508 861-0278 * http://www.coelacanth.com/



Using pybliographic with LyX

2000-05-30 Thread Bruce Veidt

I am trying to get pybliographic 1.0 to work with LyX 1.1.4fix3
on a Redhat 6.2 system but without success.  Here is what I have done:

I have added this line to ~/.lyx/lyxrc:

  \serverpipe "~/.lyx/lyxpipe"

Started lyx.
Started pybliographic.
Selected reference in pybliographic and clicked on cite.
Nothing appears in the lyx window.
What I get is a pybliographic message box that says:

  "Can't connect to LyX: no input pipe `~/.lyx/lyxpipe.in'"

Checking ~/.lyx/ I can see lyxpipe.in & lyxpipe.out being created
and destroyed.  (Lyx seems to be grabbing lots of cpu cycles when
lyxserver is turned on.)

Does anyone else have these versions of lyx & pybliographic working
together?  What is the problem?

Thanks,

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Veidt 
National Research Council   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Box 248 (250)493-2277
Penticton, BC  V2A 6K3  fax: 493-7767
Canada



Re: Using pybliographic with LyX

2000-05-30 Thread Staffan Ringbom

Bruce Veidt wrote:

> I am trying to get pybliographic 1.0 to work with LyX 1.1.4fix3
> on a Redhat 6.2 system but without success.  Here is what I have done:
>
> I have added this line to ~/.lyx/lyxrc:
>
>   \serverpipe "~/.lyx/lyxpipe"
>
> Started lyx.
> Started pybliographic.
>

HERE did you select Insert -List & TOC-bibtex reference
Did you install the bibtex with the entire path.
Unless you have done it here, Pybliographer does not know what to do.

> Selected reference in pybliographic and clicked on cite.
> Nothing appears in the lyx window.
> What I get is a pybliographic message box that says:
>
>   "Can't connect to LyX: no input pipe `~/.lyx/lyxpipe.in'"
>
> Checking ~/.lyx/ I can see lyxpipe.in & lyxpipe.out being created
> and destroyed.  (Lyx seems to be grabbing lots of cpu cycles when
> lyxserver is turned on.)
>
> Does anyone else have these versions of lyx & pybliographic working
> together?  What is the problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce
> --
> Bruce Veidt
> National Research Council   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Box 248 (250)493-2277
> Penticton, BC  V2A 6K3  fax: 493-7767
> Canada

--

Staffan Ringbom
Assistant Professor in Economics
Department of Economics
Swedish School of Economics and Business Administration
PO Box 479
FIN-00101 Helsinki
Finland

Visiting adress: Arkadiagatan 22

Phone: +358-9-4313 3416
Fax:   +358-9-4313 3382
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Nested includes

2000-05-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Michael Zapf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| Hello,
| 
| I'm about to start writing my thesis and considered using LyX. Before, I try to
| find out if I can do everything with LyX I actually planned to do using LaTeX.
| One of the most important things is to create a main document that imports
| subdocuments. However, I found that documents that are included by a document
| which is included in the main document seem to stay unprocessed, giving the
| error "LaTeX error: File 'tex' not found".
| 
| I took a look in the archive and actually found similar questions, but no good
| hint whether this feature is intended to work or not.
| 
| LaTeX itself actually supports nested \inputs. What about LyX? (I'm using LyX
| 1.1.4fix3.)

Nested inputs are allowed, but not nested includes.

You can use include on the first level, but have to use input to get
deeper than that.

Lgb




help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread richard fell

I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
correctly installed on your system.


Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
files. Thanks for any and all help,
Dick Fell



Re: lyx 1.5.1 pre3 crash

2000-05-30 Thread Shawn Koons

Hello:

Can I safely update ver1.1.5pre3.rpm with the cvs version listed on the
developers page? I have never attempted this and do not want to lose
anything I have in place. 

Shawn Koons


> 2. loading my
> Herbert> actual lyx-file and clicking on TOC or Refs lyx always
> Herbert> crashs.
> 
> I _think_ it is fixed in latest cvs version.
> 
> JMarc

-- 
Mitakuye Oyasin



Re: help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan

On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 01:40:31PM -0400, richard fell wrote:
> I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
> error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
> ** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
> correctly installed on your system.
> 
> Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
> redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
> directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
> files. Thanks for any and all help,
> Dick Fell

Can you give me the results of ``rpm -qil xforms''?

You can try just installing the RPMs on my machine:

ftp://ftp.sylvan.com/pub/lyx

There is an xforms RPM there that works for Intel-based Redhat 6.X systems.

If you have problems, Email me.

---Kayvan
-- 
Kayvan A. Sylvan   | Proud husband of  | Father to my kids:
Sylvan Associates, Inc.| Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena
http://www.successlinks.com/kayvan | Reach your goals now! | Robin Gregory



Re: help installing lyx on redhat 6.2

2000-05-30 Thread thomas schönhoff


Hello Richard,



richard fell wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install the lyx-1.1.4 on redhat linux 6.2 and get the following
> error message after issuing the ./configure commmand :
> ** Cannot find libforms or libxfomrs. Please check that the xforms library is
> correctly installed on your system.
> 
> Now, I installed the xforms rpm from the power tools cd that accompanies the
> redhat distribution, so I assume it is installed in the usual default
> directory. Am I correct? If so, where is lyx expecting to find the missing
> files. Thanks for any and all help,
> Dick Fell

I've installed the libs at /usr/lib and
usr/X11R6/include/X11/xforms/FORMS;
recently