PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread John Pye
Hi there,

I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
fine.

This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
send screenshots if you need.

Cheers
JP

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Re: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Søren O'Neill
Hi John,
I've found that many pdfs created in LyX on my Linux box look jagged and are 
hard to read on-screen on windows boxes, but look just fine when printed. 

I suspect this is because the windows box doesnt have the fonts used, but the 
printer does. 

As far as I understand though, the fonts should be included with the pdf, but 
I might have gotten that wrong. You migth try to attach the fonts manually 
using pdftk and see if it makes a difference.

Kind regard
Soren, Denmark

On Wednesday 07 December 2005 10:53, John Pye wrote:
 Hi there,

 I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
 When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
 4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
 slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
 the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
 screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
 document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

 I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
 fine.

 This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
 are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
 to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
 send screenshots if you need.

 Cheers
 JP

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Rygambulatoriet, Sygehus Fyn
Lindevej 5, 5750 Ringe

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tlf. 6362 1906 (arb.)


Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Andres Becerra Sandoval
It really is a latex default fonts issue, see:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/PDF

for the question The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?


--
  Andres


On 12/7/05, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,

 I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
 When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
 4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
 slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
 the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
 screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
 document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

 I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
 fine.

 This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
 are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
 to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
 send screenshots if you need.

 Cheers
 JP

 --
 John Pye
 School of Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering
 The University of New South Wales
 Sydney  NSW 2052  Australia
 t +61 2 9385 5127
 f +61 2 9663 1222
 mailto:john.pye_AT_student_DOT_unsw.edu.au
 http://pye.dyndns.org/




Re: Textclass Loading Error!

2005-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Martin == Martin A Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Martin Encountered one unknown token When reading lyx file

Martin the above happens when i try to open my lyxfile.

Martin an errorbox in the document contains this:

Martin Unknown token: \screen_font_roman \author Martin A. Hansen

This \author thing only appears with change tracking enabled. Did you
apply the c.t. patch to 1.3.6?

JMarc


Re: Textclass Loading Error!

2005-12-07 Thread Martin A. Hansen
i did compile with the change-bars patch. i am aware of a lot of bugs with
change-bars, and i am so much looking forward to lyx 1.4 which natively
includes change-bars (hopefully with a lot of bugs crushed).

so this falls back on yet another bug in change-bars ...

martin

On 07/12/05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Martin == Martin A Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Martin Encountered one unknown token When reading lyx file

 Martin the above happens when i try to open my lyxfile.

 Martin an errorbox in the document contains this:

 Martin Unknown token: \screen_font_roman \author Martin A. Hansen

 This \author thing only appears with change tracking enabled. Did you
 apply the c.t. patch to 1.3.6?

 JMarc



Re: Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Roy Schestowitz
_/ On Wed 07 Dec 2005 10:12:24 GMT, [Andres Becerra Sandoval] wrote 
: \_



On 12/7/05, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there,

I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
fine.

This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
send screenshots if you need.


It really is a latex default fonts issue, see:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/PDF

for the question The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?


Another suggestion:

Install  Acrobat  Reader 7 on your Fedora workstation. Version 5  was  the
latest available until a few months ago, which was a pain and an eye sore.
Adobe stopped the negligence though.

I am using KGhostView on under SuSE 8.1 and the fonts /always/ look coarse
when I view PDF's. Why KGhostView? It was there by default. I still use it
because PDF's can be opened almost instantly. I don't know evince 4 unfor-
tunately, but I imagine that the problem could be similar.

When I need a clearer picture (not just fonts are coarse), I open the same
file  using  Acrobat Reader, which is the secondary application among  the
file associations. Oddly enough, yesterday I discovered that if I SSH from
a  Ubuntu  box  to this very same computer, the issue is gone.  If  I  use
KGhostView  to view PDF-formatted documents remotely, all fonts are crisp.
Therefore, I can only assume that fonts which are installed with your dis-
tribution play a role.

Hope it helps,

Roy

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Fwd: [Mac OS X] Problems with pdfTeX, DVI and images (EPS, PDF, PNG, whatever)

2005-12-07 Thread Alexander Gahr

Hi i had the same problem too. And it seemed to me
that this is because of the 2005 latex install from the i installer  
it seems broke.
Because in this install latex can't find the path of the converted  
pictures in in the lyx temp
directory. It seems that pdflatex of the 2005 version could not  
handle the relative paths

lyx is using.

Going back to a latex 2004 i installer fixed this problem for me.





Hello list,

I recently picked up LyX after getting some warm recommendations  
from a few friends. I'm using a PowerBook with Mac OS X 10.4.3.


Thus, I picked up the i-Installer distribution at http:// 
ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html, which seems to be the most  
popular for my platform, and followed install instructions from  
http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/installing.html. I selected  
the 2005 TeX distribution (i-Installer offers 2003, 2004 and  
2005, with 2005 being the default).


Then, I grabbed a copy of LyX 1.3.6 for Mac OS X, copied the  
program to my Applications folder, and ran the install script. So  
far, so good. But from there, it goes a little bit wrong.


Indeed, I cannot seem to include any graphics (images) in my  
documents. Or rather, documents that are typeset perfectly fine on  
Linux won't hear a thing on my computer. However, this only occurs  
when I use the pdflatex, DVI or dvipdfm options of the View menu.  
For a reason I cannot explain, the ps to pdf option works just  
fine.


Graphics are included by adding a float:figure element and  
including within that an ERT block, with the following commands


\center{\includegraphics[scale=0.9,angle=0]{graphics/myimage.pdf  
or myimage.png}}


graphics is a folder that sits next to the main lyx file.

The main document author (this is part of a team project) also added

\usepackage{graphicx}

to the document preamble.

The errors I get seem to be typical of EPS files with no bounding  
boxes, but why the heck does it happen with PDFs and PNG files as  
well, when those very same files work perfectly fine on Linux...  
An example error:


LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in /Users/bahamut/ 
Documents/Sch

...cale=0.9,angle=0]{graphics/Processus.pdf}
  }
Try typing  return  to proceed.
If that doesn't work, type  X return  to quit.

In addition to that, if I export the document to latex, and  
typeset the document from say TeXShop, everything works fine (as  
far as images go, some other things get lost like cross- 
references, which makes this option unpractical).


I'm basically at a standstill now. I've done my share of research  
on the web and came up with nothing. Maybe I'm overreacting (since  
ps to pdf does work), but the issue still annoys me and I'd like  
to see it resolved (or at least understand what's causing it).


Any assistance will be appreciated.

Regards,
Jean-Francois Roy

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Programmer at MacStorm

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Re: Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Andres Becerra Sandoval
On 12/7/05, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wouldn't it make sense to make this the default setting in the standard
 Lyx templates?

  The best solution is to use the /cm-super/ or /latin modern
  (lm)/-fonts. (The LaTeX community plans to replace /ec/ by /lm/.)
  Every LaTeX distribution offers to install these fonts.
  To use lm in LyX documents, add to the preamble
 
\usepackage{lmodern}
 
  and set the document font to standard.
 

I think developers are using the standard latex defaults with work
very well with dvi and postscript  output (and printers) for the
majority of users. If you want pdf output then you change your font
manually.

Maybe what the developers could do is add more fonts to the Layout
-Document-Font  Size dialog


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote?
 Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
 spanning several paragraphs?

 I've enabled footnotes now, see
   http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
 for an illustration/example.

Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)

My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
have the markup:

blah blah blah
: : some quote
blah blah blah

However, the : : quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Regards,
Angus




Re: Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Voss
Andres Becerra Sandoval wrote:

 It really is a latex default fonts issue, see:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/PDF
 
 for the question The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?

it has _nothing_ to do with LaTeX, it is a problem of acroread

Herbert




Re: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Helge Hafting

Søren O'Neill wrote:


Hi John,
I've found that many pdfs created in LyX on my Linux box look jagged and are 
hard to read on-screen on windows boxes, but look just fine when printed. 

I suspect this is because the windows box doesnt have the fonts used, but the 
printer does. 
 


Nope.  The font really is included in the pdf, but acrobat does a
poor job when using it.  The problem is only in acrobat, that's why
the printout is fine.

The easy solution is to stick
\usepackage{lmodern}
in the document preamble.  That embeds a vector font instead of a
bitmap font, and then you don't get trouble with acrobat.  The document
should look the same.

Switching to another font (like pslatex) also does the trick, but of course
you may have your reasons for not doing that.  It will vertainly look
different, not all the other fonts have a supporting math font as well,
and so on.  (In those cases, any math stuff stands out as mismatched.)

Helge Hafting


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...


Hello Christian, I just realized that all my changes in the wiki of the 
last days are lost!!


Could you please
actualize the following pages:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
to
http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
to
http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

I'll change to the new markup when you did this.

These pages are completely lost in the new wiki:
- http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.BibTeX
- http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview
- http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.XY-pic

I also lost these uploaded files:

uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

Please Please have a look at it as soon as you can. I wanted to publish 
my installer to a wider audience today and I need these wiki-pages for this.


regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely except for Instant Preview. 
I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll 
to a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely 
except for Instant Preview. I have checked for all the files and the 
preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll to 
a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps







Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bo Peng wrote:


1. uninstall 0.5.0. I notice that miktex and aspell are still there
and I removed them through add/remove program.


This wasn't necessary.


Question: If lyx installs miktex/aspell, should it be responsible for
removing them? I think an option during uninstall should suffice.


Concerning aspell you are right. The problem is here the dictionaries 
that a user might have installed later, but I think I have now a 
solution for this.
MiKTeX and GSview are installed using their own installer so that I 
thaught it is OK when the user deinstalls them using the original 
uninstaller. But the next version of my (un)installer will ask you if 
you also want to uninstall MiKTeX and GSview when they were installed 
together with LyX.



2. download 0.5.1, use all default settings, even for miktex. During
configuration, I am not asked to install additional packages. This is
different from yesterday. I guess miktex is not fully uninstalled!


No this is the case because you use a fresh MiKTeX istallation and have 
admin permissions. It's too complicated to explain this :-), MiKTeX is 
sometimes a bit unintuitive.



Question: Will there be compatibility problem with the embedded aspell
and the online dictionary (may have newer version)?


What do you mean with online dictionary? I only install the 
spellchecker program. The webpage you are guided to while the 
installation is for the dictionaries.



Problem: when I compile a beamer file, and pgf is not there, miktex
does not fetch the package automatically (The option is on). I think
this is still related to the uninstall problem of miktex.


No, MiKTeX is indeed not fully uninstalled when you are using its 
uninstaller. But there are only some registry entries left. I reported 
these problems to the MiKTeX-developer and he surely will fix this for 
the next MiKTeX-version.
But anyway, as I wrote you in previous emails, you need to syncronize 
MiKTeX's package list with a MiKTeX-mirror on the web before MiKTeX can 
fetch missing packages automatically.


regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without preamble 
stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine so I am not 
convinced it is a problem with MikTex as I have not changed my MikTex 
installation. 



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote?
  Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
  spanning several paragraphs?
 
  I've enabled footnotes now, see
  http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
  for an illustration/example.
 
 Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)
 
 My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
 have the markup:
 
 blah blah blah
 : : some quote
 blah blah blah

If we continue this way you're going to want a complete mini-page in 
the footnote eventually ;-)

 However, the : : quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
 of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Seriously speaking though, you're approaching the limit of what's 
currently feasible now. I don't think this can be enabled, pmwiki isn't 
recursive enough.

It might be possible, but I suggest you try a hack instead. I.e. something
that sort of looks what you want. One such hack would be something like 
this:

[^Bla bla bla  \\\nbsp; nbsp;indented...  \\New line^]

Another way is to use 'custom markup' to introduce styling. It's possible 
to use lots of different CSS stuff (span/div) but I'm not familiar 
with it. Have a look here:

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyles
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyleExamples

A third solution is to simply not use footnote markup.. If you only have 
one or two footnotes, you could simply use a normal link like this.

Bla bla bla'^[[{$Name}#note1 - 1]]^' bla bla

:Note 1 [[#anchor1]]: Bla bla bla bla

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Stephen Harris wrote:


There is a new Aspell 6.0 available for Windows


Where? I found only
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/w32/
and
http://aspell.net/win32/


SH: Installing LyX to c:\LyX worked fine with 1.3.6. Starting with
1.3.7, installing to c:\lyx would produce an error message at the
end of the install about textclass.lst and failed.


If you use my installer version 0.51?

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the 0lyxpreview.ps? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)


For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) 
and installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder LyX from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.


Thanks in advance
Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the 0lyxpreview.ps? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)




I have sent this off list

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


It was AFPL GhostScript 8.51 but I did a full uninstall before I began with 
your installer.




Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder LyX from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.




It didn't work.

Thanks in advance
Uwe


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


I am not sure whether this is important - it appears each time before the

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

error message.

Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


Geoff



Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Helge _Editing_ with lyx 1.4 is fine, except from the occational bug.
Helge The startup time is not - it has definitely regressed, and I
Helge wonder if it has to be that way. What could lyx be up to
Helge _before_ l�oading documents?

Helge,

I tried to profile the startup time and guess where the time goes, but
did not see anything notable. It is weird.

JMarc


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I also lost these uploaded files:
 
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
 uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
 ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
InstantPrevScreen-small.png
libnetpbm10.dll
MTF.bib
pnmcrop.exe

so try something like:
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll

Btw, in the new wiki, links should preferably written like one of these
examples:

[[uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]
[[some link text bla bla - uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]

To make a link that is shown as an image, write something like this:

[[uploads:/image.png - http://somesite.org]]

It's a good idea to use [[...]] for all links (but not strictly necessary
for a prefix such as uploads:, or for http:).

See here for how you find your links.
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

sincere regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Could you please actualize the following pages:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

Just to be clear (and so that everybody knows):

From now on we are all supposed to edit and create new pages in
the new wiki (using the new markup). The old wiki pages (i.e.
0.6.15) are just there in case some conversion didn't go properly,
and you want to check exactly what the old page looked like.

To put it another way, the old pages (0.6.15) are just supposed to be a
static backup. Unfortunately, I managed to lose (some of?) the pages you
mentioned in the transition. (Conclusion: Don't do upgrades when you're
tired in the middle of the night...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


You can ignore this. This messafe wil always be printed in the console 
also when Instant preview works.



Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.

Could you search the whole c:\ drive for the file gswin32c.exe? Does 
it exist twice? Are there perhpas paths in the PATH environment variable 
left?


If nothing else helps, reinstll LyX again with my installer (my 
uninstaller cleans up the registry better than the original uninstallers).


regards Uwe


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Seriously speaking though, you're approaching the limit of what's 
 currently feasible now. I don't think this can be enabled, pmwiki isn't 
 recursive enough.

Greedy ol' me, huh? ;-)

 A third solution is to simply not use footnote markup.. If you only have 
 one or two footnotes, you could simply use a normal link like this.
 
   Bla bla bla'^[[{$Name}#note1 - 1]]^' bla bla
 
   :Note 1 [[#anchor1]]: Bla bla bla bla

I went with this one in the end. Not very pretty, but seems to do the job.

Thanks,
Angus






Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Another message I do seem to get is this-
   Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're
   irritated by windows appearing briefly
 I am not sure whether this is important

This is a message produced by the preview generation script itself which uses
some external Windows (as opposed to Console) apps to perform one or more steps
in the conversion chain. Windows apps have a window. This window may appear on
screen briefly whilst the conversion is being performed, which may annoy you a
little.

There's a work around that makes use of the PyWin Python modules. Hence the
message...

Angus
 





Re: c++2tex

2005-12-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Nusret BALCI wrote:
|  I couldn't find how to get to that dialog. Under which
|  menu is it? Do one need to install a plugin, or is it
|  a standard dialog?
| 
| no, it is an extension to my personal LyX ... and
| shows how it could be for all ...

Yes... and if you were interested in getting it into LyX it would have
been there by now...

-- 
Lgb



Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|  Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| 
| Helge _Editing_ with lyx 1.4 is fine, except from the occational bug.
| Helge The startup time is not - it has definitely regressed, and I
| Helge wonder if it has to be that way. What could lyx be up to
| Helge _before_ l�oading documents?
| 
| Helge,
| 
| I tried to profile the startup time and guess where the time goes, but
| did not see anything notable. It is weird.

I also tried to do some profiling on this, but failed to get anything
to pinpoint. Also on my box startup times are not bad at all...
(sub-second)

-- 
Lgb



Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


You can ignore this. This messafe wil always be printed in the console 
also when Instant preview works.



Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


And on mine if i put 0lyxpreview.ps in the same folder as gswin32c.exe or 
tell it where to find it. This suggests it cant find the .ps file maybe?


Could you search the whole c:\ drive for the file gswin32c.exe? Does it 
exist twice? Are there perhpas paths in the PATH environment variable 
left?


No other copies of gswin32 and nothing left in the PATH environment variable


If nothing else helps, reinstll LyX again with my installer (my 
uninstaller cleans up the registry better than the original uninstallers).



Still doesnt work after this


regards Uwe





Re: c++2tex

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Nusret BALCI wrote:
|  I couldn't find how to get to that dialog. Under which
|  menu is it? Do one need to install a plugin, or is it
|  a standard dialog?
| 
| no, it is an extension to my personal LyX ... and

| shows how it could be for all ...

Yes... and if you were interested in getting it into LyX it would have
been there by now...


you are kidding ...
search in the mail archive of devel for the patch. And for
the hero who says no ...

Herbert



Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lars I also tried to do some profiling on this, but failed to get
Lars anything to pinpoint. Also on my box startup times are not bad
Lars at all... (sub-second)

I clearly see a difference between 1.3.x and 1.4.x, but the times are
reasonably short.

JMarc


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Could you please actualize the following pages:


I've now updated all pages and created the ones that were lost new.

There's now only one thing left:
The page
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/InstantPreview
looks completely diferent to
http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

What needs to be included to get the old markup?
the old version has the line
[[include: Site.DefineWikiStyles]]
that I changed to
(:include Site.DefineWikiStyles:)

thanks and regards
Uwe


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try something like this...
(:include Site#styles#stylesend:)


This inserts the pagelist of the group LyX and don't fix the problem.

regards
Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)



Another thing would be write permissions. Please assure that LyX's temp 
directory and output/working directory has write permissions.


The temp directory constantly resets itself to read-only but it must have 
write permissions as all the preview files appear there.




Please also send me a small example LyX-file that you used to test Instant 
preview.



I will send one off list but it even fails for something simple like a=b



regards Uwe





Re: c++2tex

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:

Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
|  Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  | Nusret BALCI wrote:
|  |  I couldn't find how to get to that dialog. Under which
|  |  menu is it? Do one need to install a plugin, or is it
|  |  a standard dialog?
|  | | no, it is an extension to my personal LyX ... and
|  | shows how it could be for all ...
|  Yes... and if you were interested in getting it into LyX it would
|  have
|  been there by now...
| 
| you are kidding ...

| search in the mail archive of devel for the patch. And for
| the hero who says no ...

You are funny. I said no to include it right before 1.3.x was
released.

If you had been there with the patch when 1.4.x development opened it
would have got in.


maybe that you have some problems with dates and version numbers ...
The patch was sent just after the release  of 1.2

Herbert



Re: c++2tex

2005-12-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
|  Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:
|  |  Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  |  | Nusret BALCI wrote:
|  |  |  I couldn't find how to get to that dialog. Under which
|  |  |  menu is it? Do one need to install a plugin, or is it
|  |  |  a standard dialog?
|  |  | | no, it is an extension to my personal LyX ... and
|  |  | shows how it could be for all ...
|  |  Yes... and if you were interested in getting it into LyX it would
|  |  have
|  |  been there by now...
|  | | you are kidding ...
|  | search in the mail archive of devel for the patch. And for
|  | the hero who says no ...
|  You are funny. I said no to include it right before 1.3.x was
|  released.
|  If you had been there with the patch when 1.4.x development opened it
|  would have got in.
| 
| maybe that you have some problems with dates and version numbers ...
| The patch was sent just after the release  of 1.2

I know that I said No when the patch was first put forward, that was
just before a release.

If you posted it later and received no comments just a blatant No
then I am sorry. But I cannot remember that happening either...

I know that I commented on a floats in .sty files patch that also
had some listings stuff in it. (or perhaps the listings was the the
main part) If the comments to that patch seemed like denial to include
the feature, then I am sorry. That was never the intention.

We (I) wanted listings support then, and do now (but not for 1.4.0
mind you!)

I know that Christian tried to pick up your old patch, but was never
successful with that. Any help to get this in would surely be
appreciated.

-- 
Lgb



Re: c++2tex

2005-12-07 Thread Georg Baum
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:

 We (I) wanted listings support then, and do now (but not for 1.4.0
 mind you!)
 
 I know that Christian tried to pick up your old patch, but was never
 successful with that. Any help to get this in would surely be
 appreciated.

Last year I had a look at the patch and integrated it in the include inset,
because I needed to include some listings. This is sitting half finished on
my disk, I'll look at that again when the next development cycle begins.


Georg



pictures and collaboration

2005-12-07 Thread Gunnar
Hi.
If one would like to send a LyX file that contains many pictures to another 
person, one has to send all files to that person. When we are talking about 
users with moderate experience of compressed files/creating archives etc. I 
can only see problem ahead, unfortunatly.

One idea then would be to create a new kind of LyX files: LyX-zip files that 
contains all files,  expands to a temp directory when opened, and goes back 
to a LyX-zip file when closing LyX.

One problem is that the pictures can be updated, for example by external 
programs, and one shouldn't have to include the pictures again.


Gunnar
X-mas is soon here, where is 1.4? :-)


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Another thing would be write permissions. Please assure that LyX's 
temp directory and output/working directory has write permissions.


The temp directory constantly resets itself to read-only but it must 
have write permissions as all the preview files appear there.


Really? I've never heard this before. But anyway, you can also create a 
new directory and use it as LyX's temp directory (Change the settings in 
LyX's path preferences.


Your LyX-testfile works perfectly with my setup.

So this is the last try:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl? Could you please send me the PATH-prefix that you can find in 
LyX's preferences dialog under Paths.


regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


regards uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


Yes sorry. I uninstalled everything associated with Lyx and as such none of 
the above were present on the system.


Very odd



regards uwe





Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


regards uwe


Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx to 
F:\lyx


Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\

Interestingly InstantPreview now works.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces in 
path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


Also - unrelated I am sure - the startup time in the non-default locations 
is much quicker.


Geoff








Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Very odd


Indeed! I give up now.
Please try out the installer on another machine.

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed 
to C:\Program Files\Lyx ?


many many thanks for your patience and regards
Uwe


Having a number list not restart after titles?

2005-12-07 Thread Stacia Hartleben
I have a numbered list and would like to put in titles over parts of
the list. However, whenever I insert a title, the numbered list
restarts at 1. How can I put in titles over parts of the list and have
the numbers not reset?


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?


Not sure why I didnt try a different nonspaced path before but I think 
Instnat Preview is the only problem. It certainly compiles my 120 page 
thesis no problem in all locations via Export-blah


I think the installer is very good. I want my research group to use lyx but 
the IT guy said no after he watched me install, fiddle, hack and general 
force my way through 1.3.5 for Windows. Now with this one package I can see 
it on all machines next week!


Thanks for your hard work.

Geoff



Re: Having a number list not restart after titles?

2005-12-07 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Stacia Hartleben wrote:

I have a numbered list and would like to put in titles over parts of
the list. However, whenever I insert a title, the numbered list
restarts at 1. How can I put in titles over parts of the list and have
the numbers not reset?



The mdwtools package contains mdwlist.sty, which lets you interrupt and 
resume lists.


Paul




Re[2]: [LyX] translation of ... [again]

2005-12-07 Thread Alex
Dear Jean-Marc,

Alex Dear list, I doing some correcting in the introduction. Once, I
Alex found that I cannot render the document anymore.
 What error do you get?

I get the following 5 error in boxes, afterward comes the latex.log file.

I think that maybe I have some latex incompatibility problem.

BOX#1:
Illegal parameter number in definition of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 \end{document}

You meant to type ## instead of #, right?
Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things
are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.


BOX#2:
Missing number, treated as zero.
 \end{document}

A number should have been here; I inserted `0'.
(If you can't figure out why I needed to see a number,
look up `weird error' in the index to The TeXbook.)


BOX#3:
Illegal parameter number in definition of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 \end{document}

You meant to type ## instead of #, right?
Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things
are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##.


BOX#4:
Missing number, treated as zero.
 \end{document}

A number should have been here; I inserted `0'.
(If you can't figure out why I needed to see a number,
look up `weird error' in the index to The TeXbook.)


BOX#5:
Missing number, treated as zero.
 \end{document}

A number should have been here; I inserted `0'.
(If you can't figure out why I needed to see a number,
look up `weird error' in the index to The TeXbook.)


Here is the Latex.log:


This is e-TeX, Version 3.141592-2.1 (MiKTeX 2.4) (preloaded format=latex 
2000.11.28)  7 DEC 2005 20:37
entering extended mode
**hu_Intro_new.tex
(hu_Intro_new.tex
LaTeX2e 2001/06/01
Babel v3.7j and hyphenation patterns for hungarian, ukenglish, dumylang, nohy
phenation, loaded.

(C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\book.cls
Document Class: book 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\bk10.clo
File: bk10.clo 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\abovecaptionskip=\skip41
\belowcaptionskip=\skip42
\bibindent=\dimen102
) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\fontenc.sty
Package: fontenc 2001/06/05 v1.94 Standard LaTeX package
(C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\t1enc.def
File: t1enc.def 2001/06/05 v1.94 Standard LaTeX file
LaTeX Font Info:Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 38.
)) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\inputenc.sty
Package: inputenc 2001/07/10 v0.99a Input encoding file 
(C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\latin2.def
File: latin2.def 2001/07/10 v0.99a Input encoding file 
)) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\ltxmisc\url.sty
\Urlmuskip=\muskip10
Package: url 1999/03/28  ver 1.5x  Verb mode for urls, etc.
) (C:\texmf\tex\latex\tools\indentfirst.sty
Package: indentfirst 1995/11/23 v1.03 Indent first paragraph (DPC)
) (C:\texmf\tex\generic\Babel\babel.sty
Package: babel 2003/09/15 v3.7j The Babel package
(C:\texmf\tex\generic\magyar\magyar.ldf
Language: magyar 2003/09/18 v1.4d Magyar support from the babel system
(C:\texmf\tex\generic\Babel\babel.def
File: babel.def 2003/09/15 v3.7j Babel common definitions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Package babel Info: Making ` an active character on input line 576.
))
No file hu_Intro_new.aux.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:... okay on input line 50.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  12 on input line 63.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  8 on input line 63.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  6 on input line 63.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  9 on input line 63.
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  5 on input line 63.
LaTeX Font Info:Try loading font information for T1+cmtt on input line 63.
(C:\texmf\tex\latex\base\t1cmtt.fd
File: t1cmtt.fd 1999/05/25 v2.5h Standard LaTeX font definitions
) [1


]
No file hu_Intro_new.toc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[1

]
1. fejezet.
[2

]
LaTeX Font Info:External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font)  7 on input line 116.
LaTeX Font Info:Try loading font information 

Re: WinInstaller 0.51 - works

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Not sure why I didnt try a different nonspaced path before but I think 
Instant Preview is the only problem. It certainly compiles my 120 page 
thesis no problem in all locations via Export-blah


The problem is a bug in Ghostscript. I reported it:
http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688424
I added a hint in the Instant preview page:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/InstantPreview

I think the installer is very good. I want my research group to use lyx 
but the IT guy said no after he watched me install, fiddle, hack and 
general force my way through 1.3.5 for Windows. Now with this one 
package I can see it on all machines next week!


Then it was worth to invest so much time.

regards Uwe


Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller



Stephen Harris wrote:


There is a new Aspell 6.0 available for Windows


Where? I found only
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/w32/
and
http://aspell.net/win32/



http://aspell.net/
* Latest Version: GNU Aspell 0.60.4 (Released October, 2005)

I belong to the Aspell mailing list and heard about .60 awhile ago.
There was a reference to contacting someone for a .exe copy rather
than general repository availability. So I downloaded it and built
with Win XP and Cygwin. Also the dictionary, which addresses
some of Bo's concerns in the README, is partially quoted below.

My remark was informational, not intended to recommend including
it for use in your full package, and directed towards different .exe and
dict versions. I compiled the dictionary first. Aspell .64 worked from
the command line, but I am not sure it works from LyX. I did the full
install of .51 (without problems) except that it did not recognize
the .64 version located in C:\Aspell and said I needed Aspell. So it
installed Aspell .053 I suppose and prompted me for a dictionary
download. Spellchecking works in LyX but I tend to think it is .053


From the README:

All data, by default, is now included in `LIBDIR/aspell-0.60' so
that multiple versions of Aspell can more peacefully coexist.  This
included both the dictionaries and the language data files which were
stored in `SHAREDIR/aspell' before Aspell 0.60.

  The format of the character data files has changed.  The new
character data files are installed with Aspell so you should not have
to worry about it unless you made a custom one.

  The dictionary option `strip-accents' has been removed.  For this
reason the old English dictionary (up to 0.51) will no longer work.  A
new English dictionary is now available which avoids using this option.
In addition the `ignore-accents' option is currently unimplemented.

Regards,
Stephen 





Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
 ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
InstantPrevScreen-small.png


These two are really lost.

I've

[[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot-small.png - 
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen.png]]


in my page and get nothing. I swear that they were there earlier today.
Could you please restore them?

BTW. how could I upload a file and wehere is the really useful upload 
manager gone?


regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51 - works

2005-12-07 Thread Bo Peng
  I think the installer is very good.

I agree so.

 I want my research group to use lyx
  but the IT guy said no after he watched me install, fiddle, hack and
  general force my way through 1.3.5 for Windows. Now with this one
  package I can see it on all machines next week!

The same situation here. My advisor said that he would like to install
lyx on his home machine by himself and I replied no in panic. :-)

 Then it was worth to invest so much time.

Thank you very much for your wonderful work.

Bo


Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris wrote:
 http://aspell.net/
 * Latest Version: GNU Aspell 0.60.4 (Released October, 2005)

 I belong to the Aspell mailing list and heard about .60 awhile ago.
 There was a reference to contacting someone for a .exe copy rather
 than general repository availability. So I downloaded it and built
 with Win XP and Cygwin. Also the dictionary, which addresses
 some of Bo's concerns in the README, is partially quoted below.

Stephen, just to clear up any confusion: LyX/Win doesn't use aspell.exe at
all. It is linked statically against libaspell.a

-- 
Angus



Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.

Using the Angus installer, I have not been able to install to C:\LyX
for 1.3.7pre without the install failing. I suppose though, that if using
Instant preview doesn't work with the Angus installer, installing to
C:\program files\LyX, then that would have been reported. Sometimes
eccentric computer behavior is so subtly causal that it seems like magic.

TeXnocratically speaking without the e,
Stephen 





Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Try something like this...
  (:include Site#styles#stylesend:)

My mistake, a typo. It should be:

(:include Site.WikiStyles#styles#stylesend:)

What is happening here is that the styles are defined on the page 
Site.WikiStyles, in between the anchors #styles and #stylesend. The idea 
is that the rest of that page should illustrate and examplify the styles.

However, I'm a bit surprised that these styles aren't already defined. But 
fixing LyX.InstantPreview, I recognize that at least the style %menu% is 
working. When I test it on this page, the styles are defined.

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/SiteWikiStyles

Is there something else I'm missing?

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Helge Hafting
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:58:51PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Lars I also tried to do some profiling on this, but failed to get
 Lars anything to pinpoint. Also on my box startup times are not bad
 Lars at all... (sub-second)
 
 I clearly see a difference between 1.3.x and 1.4.x, but the times are
 reasonably short.

Evereybody except me get sub-second startup times?
That is good, lyx is probably ok with me making a mistake then.
It'd sure be interesting if anyone have an idea what I do wrong.

My configure command, using optimizations and disabling
some costly debugging.  Are there perhaps other things that impact speed?


$ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-frontend=qt --with-gnu-ld 
--with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --disable-stdlib-debug 
--disable-concept-checks --enable-assertions CFLAGS=-O2 CPPFLAGS=-O2

gcc and g++ are version 4.0.2 from debian testing


Libraries I use, all from debian testing:
$ ldd `which lyx`
libqt-mt.so.3 = /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0x2abc3000)
libaudio.so.2 = /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x2b6aa000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x2b7d4000)
libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x2b935000)
libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x2ba56000)
libXi.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x2bb7b000)
libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x2bc83000)
libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x2bd86000)
libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2be91000)
libXft.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x2bf93000)
libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x2c0a7000)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x2c1b1000)
libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x2c33f000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x2c47e000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x2c59)
libaspell.so.15 = /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x2c6a5000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x2c89a000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x2c99e000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x2caa8000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2cbc3000)
libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x2cda3000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x2ceb9000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x2d0b4000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2d23a000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x2d477000)
libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x2d585000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x2aaab000)

Helge Hafting


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
   ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
  InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
  InstantPrevScreen-small.png
 
 These two are really lost.
 
 I've
 
 [[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot-small.png - 
 uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen.png]]
 
 in my page and get nothing. 

The names have been flipped around, try this:
[[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen-small.png - 
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot.png]]


as illustrated here now:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

(I never removed or modified any files in uploads/, so I'm pretty sure I 
didn't cause this at least).

 BTW. how could I upload a file and wehere is the really useful upload 
 manager gone?

Oh, is it gone?  No... it's just that the link is moved to the sidebar. 
It's there rather hight up on the sidebar and says File manager.

Here's a direct link:
http://wiki.lyx.org/ipfm/index.php/

Should I change File manager to Upload manager or something else?

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Bo Peng
Just to confirm here that instant preview is not working with lyx
installed under c:'\program files\lyx

Bo


Re: Having a number list not restart after titles?

2005-12-07 Thread Helge Hafting
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:29:27PM -0600, Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 I have a numbered list and would like to put in titles over parts of
 the list. However, whenever I insert a title, the numbered list
 restarts at 1. How can I put in titles over parts of the list and have
 the numbers not reset?

I know of two ways.
The first is to explicitly setting the enumeration counter.

Wherever you want the list to continue (instead of starting
at 1., insert a TEX box in the front of the text of the
first continuing enumerate.

If you want to continue with that item as nr. 7, insert this
in the tex box:

[7.]\setcounter{enumi}{7}

For other numbers, just substitute the two sevens with what you want.

This solution is quick, but the obvious problem is that you have to
set the numbers right. If you add an extra item to the beginning of such a 
list, then you need to update your tex code. Also, it doesn't look right in
lyx even though it looks correct in print.


The other way I know have no problems with the numbers when you
add more items, and it looks right in lyx too. It changes the appearance 
of the document a bit, as the headings get indented to match the
itemized text.  This may actually look better, or it might not be
what you want.

Write your list and stick a title in the middle of it.
By title, I assume you use a paragraph type like
section, subsection* or perhaps standard with
a font change. Whatever the paragraph type for your heading is,
put the cursor somewhere in the heading and press ALT+SHIFT+RIGHT ARROW
on the keyboard.  This increases the environment depth, that is, your
heading gets nested into the list. Notice how the numbers in the list
becomes correct as you do this.

You should also do a view-dvi to see how this affects the output.

Tip: If you want several paragraphs in a single item, then 
write the additional paragraphs as type standard and
increase their environment depths.  If you want an example,
try help-userguide and read the section on nesting environments

Helge Hafting




Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The names have been flipped around, try this:
	[[uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPrevScreen-small.png - 
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot.png]]


Hm, I tried
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
and get the message that the file doesn't exist. Now it does - enough 
for today.



Should I change File manager to Upload manager or something else?


Yes please rename it to Upload manager.

regards Uwe


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, I'm a bit surprised that these styles aren't already defined. But 
fixing LyX.InstantPreview, I recognize that at least the style %menu% is 
working. When I test it on this page, the styles are defined.


http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/SiteWikiStyles

Is there something else I'm missing?


I don't know. [[include:Site/DefineWikiStyles]] is the only thing that 
is included in the old LyX.InstantPreview. You are the Wiki guru ;-)


regards Uwe


Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller



Stephen Harris wrote:

http://aspell.net/
* Latest Version: GNU Aspell 0.60.4 (Released October, 2005)



I belong to the Aspell mailing list and heard about .60 awhile ago.
There was a reference to contacting someone for a .exe copy rather
than general repository availability. So I downloaded it and built
with Win XP and Cygwin. Also the dictionary, which addresses
some of Bo's concerns in the README, is partially quoted below.


Stephen, just to clear up any confusion: LyX/Win doesn't use aspell.exe at
all. It is linked statically against libaspell.a

--
Angus



Now I am confused. I have a Aspell053Setup.exe and a en dictionary
.exe. I thought these were required by LyX? There is no libaspell* on
this #1 computer. Did it come with LyX? I have two computers.

On my other computer #2, I download Aspell .064 tar.gz. And unpacked
it, ran configure, make and make install (did the dictionary first like 
this).


I am pretty sure I saw libaspell.a on the screen during the build. Do you
mean I didn't have to compile this? This #2 computer where I did the
build has a libaspell.la , libaspell.lai , libaspell.dll.a , but no 
libaspell.a ,

after doing a search with the build completed (has an aspell.exe now).

If my first computer which has no libaspell* doesn't use aspell.exe at
all, how come I can't find a libaspell* file somewhere on the #1 computer.
Maybe I don't understand statically linked. I thought that meant the
file must exist on my computer. But I only finished one semester of Perl.

Regards,
Stephen





Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller



Stephen Harris wrote:

http://aspell.net/
* Latest Version: GNU Aspell 0.60.4 (Released October, 2005)



I belong to the Aspell mailing list and heard about .60 awhile ago.
There was a reference to contacting someone for a .exe copy rather
than general repository availability. So I downloaded it and built
with Win XP and Cygwin. Also the dictionary, which addresses
some of Bo's concerns in the README, is partially quoted below.


Stephen, just to clear up any confusion: LyX/Win doesn't use aspell.exe at
all. It is linked statically against libaspell.a

--
Angus




Addendum. I did find a libpspell.a in .libs on the computer #2 where I
did the compile. And I saw a .lnk which I'm not sure what it linked to.

But on the other #1 computer, there is no .libs directory containing
any lib*spell* , nor a (.)libs directory. LyX spellchecking works on #1.

Regards,
Stephen




Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 22:05, Stephen Harris wrote:
  Stephen, just to clear up any confusion: LyX/Win doesn't use aspell.exe
  at all. It is linked statically against libaspell.a

 Now I am confused. I have a Aspell053Setup.exe and a en dictionary
 .exe. I thought these were required by LyX? There is no libaspell* on
 this #1 computer. Did it come with LyX?

LyX/Win doesn't use aspell.exe at all. It is linked statically against 
libaspell.a

That is, when I compile LyX, I bundle the contents of libaspell.a on my 
machine into lyx.exe. That's part of the reason why Aspell must be installed 
at C:\Aspell on *your* machine because, whilst the library and all its 
functions are parcelled up inside of lyx.exe, so are the hard-coded paths to 
the external resource files that this library needs to actually operate 
successfully. Things like the dictionary, for example.

It *is* possible to overcome this C:\Aspell requirement with the current 
lyx.exe, but it's not straightforward. You need to define an environment 
variable that informs Aspell where to find its resource files. Google on 
'aspell environment variable' for the hairy details.

Longer term, we (the LyX devels) should aim to do this (define the location of 
Aspell resource files) programmatically by passing the path to these resource 
files to some Aspell function that we can call from the main lyx routines. 
(Presumably, this path would be stored in your preferences file.)

Once we achieve this passing the path solution we can probably investigate 
whether we need to link lyx.exe statically with libaspell or whether we can 
use an aspell.dll that lives separately to lyx.exe and which can, therefore, 
be upgraded on your machine independently to any lyx.exe upgrade.

As for your question, did I need to compile Aspell?, I think that the answer 
is no. I *think that you just need the contents of C:\Aspell\data and C:
\Aspell\dict which, on my machine, contain:

/mnt/windowsC/Aspell/data:
ASCII.dat   cp1256.dat  iso8859-13.dat  iso8859-5.dat  koi8-r.dat
cp1250.dat  cp1257.dat  iso8859-14.dat  iso8859-6.dat  koi8-u.dat
cp1251.dat  cp1258.dat  iso8859-15.dat  iso8859-7.dat  spell
cp1252.dat  dvorak.kbd  iso8859-1.dat   iso8859-8.dat  split.kbd
cp1253.dat  en.dat  iso8859-2.dat   iso8859-9.dat  standard.kbd
cp1254.dat  en_phonet.dat   iso8859-3.dat   ispell viscii.dat
cp1255.dat  iso8859-10.dat  iso8859-4.dat   koi8-f.dat

/mnt/windowsC/Aspell/dict:
american.aliasen_CA.multienglish.alias
american-w-accents.alias  en_CA-only.rws en.multi
british.alias en_CA-w-accents.multi  en-only.rws
british-w-accents.alias   en_GB.multien_US.multi
canadian.aliasen_GB-only.rws en_US-only.rws
canadian-w-accents.alias  en_GB-w-accents.multi  en_US-w-accents.multi

Are things clearer now?

If they are, and if you discover that what I've written is actually correct, 
perhaps you might like to shove the contents of this mail onto the wiki to 
help head off any future confusions.

Regards,
-- 
Angus


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



Using the Angus installer, I have not been able to install to C:\LyX
for 1.3.7pre without the install failing. I suppose though, that if using
Instant preview doesn't work with the Angus installer, installing to
C:\program files\LyX, then that would have been reported. Sometimes
eccentric computer behavior is so subtly causal that it seems like magic.


From my experience Instant Preview will work with the Uwe installer if Lyx 

is put in a path without spaces such as C:\Lyx

Everything else appears to work fine wherever you put Lyx.

Like I said this is a Ghostscript not Lyx/Latex issue and they have been 
informed.




TeXnocratically speaking without the e,
Stephen






Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


Evereybody except me get sub-second startup times?
That is good, lyx is probably ok with me making a mistake then.
It'd sure be interesting if anyone have an idea what I do wrong.


Helge,

  If I've not invoked LyX before, then it takes about 1-2 seconds to come up
on my Slackware-10.2 box (AMD Athlon XP/2200+. 1G RAM, 5400 rpm hard drive).
Once it's been opened, re-invoking it brings it up in less than a second.
Something must be cached somewhere.

Rich

--
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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
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Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed 
lyx to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a 
spaces in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed 
to C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

I'm under the impression that the same ghostscript was used in both
cases, C:\Lyx which worked and C:\program files\lyx which did not.

The difference is in the path. Miktex and Aspell say to install in paths
without spaces. If Miktex or Aspell failed because of a space in the
path one would not say there is a Miktex or Aspell problem but a
Path problem (due to Linux/Windows porting). The Path appears to
be the problem with ghostscript not working. This seems to be my
day to learn things, so could you provide a little more clarity? I don't
mean repeat Uwe's evaluation, but explain why his diagnosis is correct.


Uwe wrote:
Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


GL wrote: It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)

Regards,
Stephen




Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed 
lyx to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a 
spaces in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed 
to C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

I'm under the impression that the same ghostscript was used in both
cases, C:\Lyx which worked and C:\program files\lyx which did not.

The difference is in the path. Miktex and Aspell say to install in paths
without spaces. If Miktex or Aspell failed because of a space in the
path one would not say there is a Miktex or Aspell problem but a
Path problem (due to Linux/Windows porting). The Path appears to
be the problem with ghostscript not working. This seems to be my
day to learn things, so could you provide a little more clarity? I don't
mean repeat Uwe's evaluation, but explain why his diagnosis is correct.


Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with 
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.


Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this case 
but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not related.


I honestly couldnt say.












Uwe wrote:
Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


GL wrote: It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)

Regards,
Stephen







Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:
 Stephen Harris wrote:
 If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
 LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
 used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

 Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with
 spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.
 
 Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this
 case but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not
 related.
 
 I honestly couldnt say.

Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py script
when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you could see if
the attached patch fixes things?

-- 
AngusIndex: lib/scripts/lyxpreview2ppm.py
===
RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/lib/scripts/Attic/lyxpreview2ppm.py,v
retrieving revision 1.1.2.7
diff -u -p -r1.1.2.7 lyxpreview2ppm.py
--- lib/scripts/lyxpreview2ppm.py	16 Jun 2005 13:15:11 -	1.1.2.7
+++ lib/scripts/lyxpreview2ppm.py	8 Dec 2005 00:24:45 -
@@ -93,7 +93,11 @@ def find_exe(candidates, path):
 full_path = os.path.join(directory, prog)
 
 if os.access(full_path, os.X_OK):
-return full_path
+# The thing is in the PATH already (or we wouldn't
+# have found it). Return just the basename to avoid
+# problems when the path to the executable contains
+# spaces.
+return os.path.basename(full_path)
 
 return None
 


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Stephen Harris wrote:

If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?



Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.

Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this
case but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not
related.

I honestly couldnt say.


Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py 
script

when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you could see if
the attached patch fixes things?

I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, to 
compile from scratch - sorry.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.

Geoff



--
Angus 




Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:58:51PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
|   Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  
|  Lars I also tried to do some profiling on this, but failed to get
|  Lars anything to pinpoint. Also on my box startup times are not bad
|  Lars at all... (sub-second)
|  
|  I clearly see a difference between 1.3.x and 1.4.x, but the times are
|  reasonably short.
| 
| Evereybody except me get sub-second startup times?
| That is good, lyx is probably ok with me making a mistake then.
| It'd sure be interesting if anyone have an idea what I do wrong.
| 
| My configure command, using optimizations and disabling
| some costly debugging.  Are there perhaps other things that impact speed?
| 
| 
| $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-frontend=qt --with-gnu-ld 
| --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --disable-stdlib-debug 
| --disable-concept-checks --enable-assertions CFLAGS=-O2 CPPFLAGS=-O2

Even on a build with this:

./configure --with-frontend=qt --disable-debug

And when starting I get sub-2-second startup. (cached, no disk read needed)
This in on a AMD XP 2400

The only thing I see with your configure line that could be changed in
the last two variables that you set... (btw. does it work to set them
last on the command line?)

To set optimization level you should use --enable-optimization='-O2'


| gcc and g++ are version 4.0.2 from debian testing
| 
| 
| Libraries I use, all from debian testing:
| $ ldd `which lyx`
| libqt-mt.so.3 = /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0x2abc3000)
| libaudio.so.2 = /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x2b6aa000)
| libXt.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x2b7d4000)
| libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x2b935000)
| libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x2ba56000)
| libXi.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x2bb7b000)
| libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x2bc83000)
| libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x2bd86000)
| libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 
(0x2be91000)
| libXft.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x2bf93000)
| libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x2c0a7000)
| libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x2c1b1000)
| libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x2c33f000)
| libXext.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x2c47e000)
| libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x2c59)
| libaspell.so.15 = /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x2c6a5000)
| libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x2c89a000)
| libSM.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x2c99e000)
| libICE.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x2caa8000)
| libX11.so.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2cbc3000)
| libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x2cda3000)
| libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x2ceb9000)
| libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x2d0b4000)
| libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2d23a000)
| libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x2d477000)
| libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x2d585000)
| /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x2aaab000)

Hmm are these 64bit binaries or 32bit? (does that matter?)

On my FC4 running on an AMD64 XP3500 all the above libraries point
into some lib64 dir. (might very well be one of the differenced
between debian and fedora)

-- 
Lgb



Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Harris


- Original Message - 
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51







Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

I'm under the impression that the same ghostscript was used in both
cases, C:\Lyx which worked and C:\program files\lyx which did not.

The difference is in the path. Miktex and Aspell say to install in paths
without spaces. If Miktex or Aspell failed because of a space in the
path one would not say there is a Miktex or Aspell problem but a
Path problem (due to Linux/Windows porting). The Path appears to
be the problem with ghostscript not working. This seems to be my
day to learn things, so could you provide a little more clarity? I don't
mean repeat Uwe's evaluation, but explain why his diagnosis is correct.




Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with 
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.


Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this case 
but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not related.


I honestly couldnt say.



uwe: Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's 
temp directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command



The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


GL: And on mine if i put 0lyxpreview.ps in the same folder as gswin32c.exe
or tell it where to find it. This suggests it cant find the .ps file maybe?

SH: When you put the object file into the same directory as the
executable file, as when copying 0lyxpreview.psinto Ghostscript/bin
that is going to eliminate a problem with Paths with spaces since there
is no directory with spaces in them to be traversed. Sometimes an issue
of using relative paths versus absolute paths arise because a quirky file
with the same name as the executable may exist earlier in the Path 
statement.




gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


GL wrote: It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)





Indent on every 1st paragraph after different environment

2005-12-07 Thread Adinda Praditya
Hi list,...

I used book class and would like to have an ident (TAB) on every first 
paragraph after changing environment (chapter, section, enumerate, itemize 
etc.) I couldn't found how to do it in http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi Can 
anyone help?

Thanks,

Adinda P


Re: Indent on every 1st paragraph after different environment

2005-12-07 Thread Alex
Hello Adinda,

You must add the following line into the preamble of the document.
in 1.3.x-s Layout-Document menu choose preamble and type:

\usepackage{indentfirst}

That's all.

-- 
 Alexmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



AP Hi list,...

AP I used book class and would like to have an ident (TAB) on every first 
AP paragraph after changing environment (chapter, section, enumerate, itemize
AP etc.) I couldn't found how to do it in
AP http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi Can 
AP anyone help?







Re: Indent on every 1st paragraph after different environment

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Voss

Adinda Praditya wrote:

I used book class and would like to have an ident (TAB) on every first 
paragraph after changing environment (chapter, section, enumerate, itemize 
etc.) I couldn't found how to do it in http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi Can 
anyone help?


\usepackage{indentfirst}

Herbert



PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread John Pye
Hi there,

I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
fine.

This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
send screenshots if you need.

Cheers
JP

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The University of New South Wales
Sydney  NSW 2052  Australia
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Re: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Søren O'Neill
Hi John,
I've found that many pdfs created in LyX on my Linux box look jagged and are 
hard to read on-screen on windows boxes, but look just fine when printed. 

I suspect this is because the windows box doesnt have the fonts used, but the 
printer does. 

As far as I understand though, the fonts should be included with the pdf, but 
I might have gotten that wrong. You migth try to attach the fonts manually 
using pdftk and see if it makes a difference.

Kind regard
Soren, Denmark

On Wednesday 07 December 2005 10:53, John Pye wrote:
 Hi there,

 I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
 When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
 4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
 slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
 the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
 screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
 document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

 I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
 fine.

 This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
 are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
 to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
 send screenshots if you need.

 Cheers
 JP

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Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Andres Becerra Sandoval
It really is a latex default fonts issue, see:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/PDF

for the question The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?


--
  Andres


On 12/7/05, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,

 I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
 When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
 4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
 slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
 the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
 screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
 document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

 I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
 fine.

 This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
 are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
 to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
 send screenshots if you need.

 Cheers
 JP

 --
 John Pye
 School of Mechanical and Manufacturing Engineering
 The University of New South Wales
 Sydney  NSW 2052  Australia
 t +61 2 9385 5127
 f +61 2 9663 1222
 mailto:john.pye_AT_student_DOT_unsw.edu.au
 http://pye.dyndns.org/




Re: Textclass Loading Error!

2005-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Martin == Martin A Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Martin Encountered one unknown token When reading lyx file

Martin the above happens when i try to open my lyxfile.

Martin an errorbox in the document contains this:

Martin Unknown token: \screen_font_roman \author Martin A. Hansen

This \author thing only appears with change tracking enabled. Did you
apply the c.t. patch to 1.3.6?

JMarc


Re: Textclass Loading Error!

2005-12-07 Thread Martin A. Hansen
i did compile with the change-bars patch. i am aware of a lot of bugs with
change-bars, and i am so much looking forward to lyx 1.4 which natively
includes change-bars (hopefully with a lot of bugs crushed).

so this falls back on yet another bug in change-bars ...

martin

On 07/12/05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Martin == Martin A Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Martin Encountered one unknown token When reading lyx file

 Martin the above happens when i try to open my lyxfile.

 Martin an errorbox in the document contains this:

 Martin Unknown token: \screen_font_roman \author Martin A. Hansen

 This \author thing only appears with change tracking enabled. Did you
 apply the c.t. patch to 1.3.6?

 JMarc



Re: Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Roy Schestowitz
_/ On Wed 07 Dec 2005 10:12:24 GMT, [Andres Becerra Sandoval] wrote 
: \_



On 12/7/05, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there,

I use the Lyx pdflatex option to produce a PDF of my thesis-in-progress.
When I view the PDF in Linux (I'm using standard FC4 packages, evince
4.0.0 is the PDF viewer) the characters in the (standard) font looks
slightly bunched up. When I view the same PDF in Windows (Acrobat 4.0)
the fonts look OK at high levels of zoom, but at normal two-pages-on-a
screen zoom, the fonts are almost illegible. And when I print out the
document from Windows, the fonts look rather jagged.

I've got PDFs from other Linux / Latex users which have fonts that look
fine.

This seems to be a very common problem with PDFs produced on Linux which
are then used by Windows people. Is there a known solution? I've tried
to find information on this but haven't seen anything relevant. I can
send screenshots if you need.


It really is a latex default fonts issue, see:
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/PDF

for the question The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?


Another suggestion:

Install  Acrobat  Reader 7 on your Fedora workstation. Version 5  was  the
latest available until a few months ago, which was a pain and an eye sore.
Adobe stopped the negligence though.

I am using KGhostView on under SuSE 8.1 and the fonts /always/ look coarse
when I view PDF's. Why KGhostView? It was there by default. I still use it
because PDF's can be opened almost instantly. I don't know evince 4 unfor-
tunately, but I imagine that the problem could be similar.

When I need a clearer picture (not just fonts are coarse), I open the same
file  using  Acrobat Reader, which is the secondary application among  the
file associations. Oddly enough, yesterday I discovered that if I SSH from
a  Ubuntu  box  to this very same computer, the issue is gone.  If  I  use
KGhostView  to view PDF-formatted documents remotely, all fonts are crisp.
Therefore, I can only assume that fonts which are installed with your dis-
tribution play a role.

Hope it helps,

Roy

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10:20am  up   7:31,  4 users,  load average: 0.64, 0.68, 0.64



Fwd: [Mac OS X] Problems with pdfTeX, DVI and images (EPS, PDF, PNG, whatever)

2005-12-07 Thread Alexander Gahr

Hi i had the same problem too. And it seemed to me
that this is because of the 2005 latex install from the i installer  
it seems broke.
Because in this install latex can't find the path of the converted  
pictures in in the lyx temp
directory. It seems that pdflatex of the 2005 version could not  
handle the relative paths

lyx is using.

Going back to a latex 2004 i installer fixed this problem for me.





Hello list,

I recently picked up LyX after getting some warm recommendations  
from a few friends. I'm using a PowerBook with Mac OS X 10.4.3.


Thus, I picked up the i-Installer distribution at http:// 
ii2.sourceforge.net/tex-index.html, which seems to be the most  
popular for my platform, and followed install instructions from  
http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/installing.html. I selected  
the 2005 TeX distribution (i-Installer offers 2003, 2004 and  
2005, with 2005 being the default).


Then, I grabbed a copy of LyX 1.3.6 for Mac OS X, copied the  
program to my Applications folder, and ran the install script. So  
far, so good. But from there, it goes a little bit wrong.


Indeed, I cannot seem to include any graphics (images) in my  
documents. Or rather, documents that are typeset perfectly fine on  
Linux won't hear a thing on my computer. However, this only occurs  
when I use the pdflatex, DVI or dvipdfm options of the View menu.  
For a reason I cannot explain, the ps to pdf option works just  
fine.


Graphics are included by adding a float:figure element and  
including within that an ERT block, with the following commands


\center{\includegraphics[scale=0.9,angle=0]{graphics/myimage.pdf  
or myimage.png}}


graphics is a folder that sits next to the main lyx file.

The main document author (this is part of a team project) also added

\usepackage{graphicx}

to the document preamble.

The errors I get seem to be typical of EPS files with no bounding  
boxes, but why the heck does it happen with PDFs and PNG files as  
well, when those very same files work perfectly fine on Linux...  
An example error:


LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in /Users/bahamut/ 
Documents/Sch

...cale=0.9,angle=0]{graphics/Processus.pdf}
  }
Try typing  return  to proceed.
If that doesn't work, type  X return  to quit.

In addition to that, if I export the document to latex, and  
typeset the document from say TeXShop, everything works fine (as  
far as images go, some other things get lost like cross- 
references, which makes this option unpractical).


I'm basically at a standstill now. I've done my share of research  
on the web and came up with nothing. Maybe I'm overreacting (since  
ps to pdf does work), but the issue still annoys me and I'd like  
to see it resolved (or at least understand what's causing it).


Any assistance will be appreciated.

Regards,
Jean-Francois Roy

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Programmer at MacStorm

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Re: Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Andres Becerra Sandoval
On 12/7/05, John Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wouldn't it make sense to make this the default setting in the standard
 Lyx templates?

  The best solution is to use the /cm-super/ or /latin modern
  (lm)/-fonts. (The LaTeX community plans to replace /ec/ by /lm/.)
  Every LaTeX distribution offers to install these fonts.
  To use lm in LyX documents, add to the preamble
 
\usepackage{lmodern}
 
  and set the document font to standard.
 

I think developers are using the standard latex defaults with work
very well with dvi and postscript  output (and printers) for the
majority of users. If you want pdf output then you change your font
manually.

Maybe what the developers could do is add more fonts to the Layout
-Document-Font  Size dialog


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread Angus Leeming
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote?
 Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
 spanning several paragraphs?

 I've enabled footnotes now, see
   http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
 for an illustration/example.

Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)

My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
have the markup:

blah blah blah
: : some quote
blah blah blah

However, the : : quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Regards,
Angus




Re: Fwd: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Herbert Voss
Andres Becerra Sandoval wrote:

 It really is a latex default fonts issue, see:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/FAQ/PDF
 
 for the question The fonts are bad in the exported PDF, what can I do?

it has _nothing_ to do with LaTeX, it is a problem of acroread

Herbert




Re: PDfs from Linux have nasty fonts

2005-12-07 Thread Helge Hafting

Søren O'Neill wrote:


Hi John,
I've found that many pdfs created in LyX on my Linux box look jagged and are 
hard to read on-screen on windows boxes, but look just fine when printed. 

I suspect this is because the windows box doesnt have the fonts used, but the 
printer does. 
 


Nope.  The font really is included in the pdf, but acrobat does a
poor job when using it.  The problem is only in acrobat, that's why
the printout is fine.

The easy solution is to stick
\usepackage{lmodern}
in the document preamble.  That embeds a vector font instead of a
bitmap font, and then you don't get trouble with acrobat.  The document
should look the same.

Switching to another font (like pslatex) also does the trick, but of course
you may have your reasons for not doing that.  It will vertainly look
different, not all the other fonts have a supporting math font as well,
and so on.  (In those cases, any math stuff stands out as mismatched.)

Helge Hafting


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:


This is a warning^H^H^H^H^H^H^H blurb that I just finally upgraded the
wiki to the new wiki engine. I've eventually realised that I'm unable to
guarantee a perfectly smooth transition, so instead I'll just plunge in
and deal with any problems as they occur and get the thing over with...


Hello Christian, I just realized that all my changes in the wiki of the 
last days are lost!!


Could you please
actualize the following pages:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
to
http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller

http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
to
http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

I'll change to the new markup when you did this.

These pages are completely lost in the new wiki:
- http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.BibTeX
- http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview
- http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.XY-pic

I also lost these uploaded files:

uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

Please Please have a look at it as soon as you can. I wanted to publish 
my installer to a wider audience today and I need these wiki-pages for this.


regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely except for Instant Preview. 
I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll 
to a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely 
except for Instant Preview. I have checked for all the files and the 
preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll to 
a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps







Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bo Peng wrote:


1. uninstall 0.5.0. I notice that miktex and aspell are still there
and I removed them through add/remove program.


This wasn't necessary.


Question: If lyx installs miktex/aspell, should it be responsible for
removing them? I think an option during uninstall should suffice.


Concerning aspell you are right. The problem is here the dictionaries 
that a user might have installed later, but I think I have now a 
solution for this.
MiKTeX and GSview are installed using their own installer so that I 
thaught it is OK when the user deinstalls them using the original 
uninstaller. But the next version of my (un)installer will ask you if 
you also want to uninstall MiKTeX and GSview when they were installed 
together with LyX.



2. download 0.5.1, use all default settings, even for miktex. During
configuration, I am not asked to install additional packages. This is
different from yesterday. I guess miktex is not fully uninstalled!


No this is the case because you use a fresh MiKTeX istallation and have 
admin permissions. It's too complicated to explain this :-), MiKTeX is 
sometimes a bit unintuitive.



Question: Will there be compatibility problem with the embedded aspell
and the online dictionary (may have newer version)?


What do you mean with online dictionary? I only install the 
spellchecker program. The webpage you are guided to while the 
installation is for the dictionaries.



Problem: when I compile a beamer file, and pgf is not there, miktex
does not fetch the package automatically (The option is on). I think
this is still related to the uninstall problem of miktex.


No, MiKTeX is indeed not fully uninstalled when you are using its 
uninstaller. But there are only some registry entries left. I reported 
these problems to the MiKTeX-developer and he surely will fix this for 
the next MiKTeX-version.
But anyway, as I wrote you in previous emails, you need to syncronize 
MiKTeX's package list with a MiKTeX-mirror on the web before MiKTeX can 
fetch missing packages automatically.


regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd


- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without preamble 
stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine so I am not 
convinced it is a problem with MikTex as I have not changed my MikTex 
installation. 



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Angus Leeming wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Also in Note for users of Windows 98, how do I make the footnote?
  Indeed, is there a clean and elegant way to make a footnote
  spanning several paragraphs?
 
  I've enabled footnotes now, see
  http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/Footnote
  for an illustration/example.
 
 Thanks, Christian. One more request ;-)
 
 My footnote on http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137pre would ideally
 have the markup:
 
 blah blah blah
 : : some quote
 blah blah blah

If we continue this way you're going to want a complete mini-page in 
the footnote eventually ;-)

 However, the : : quoting markup appears to be disabled inside
 of footnotes. Could you enable it?

Seriously speaking though, you're approaching the limit of what's 
currently feasible now. I don't think this can be enabled, pmwiki isn't 
recursive enough.

It might be possible, but I suggest you try a hack instead. I.e. something
that sort of looks what you want. One such hack would be something like 
this:

[^Bla bla bla  \\\nbsp; nbsp;indented...  \\New line^]

Another way is to use 'custom markup' to introduce styling. It's possible 
to use lots of different CSS stuff (span/div) but I'm not familiar 
with it. Have a look here:

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyles
http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/WikiStyleExamples

A third solution is to simply not use footnote markup.. If you only have 
one or two footnotes, you could simply use a normal link like this.

Bla bla bla'^[[{$Name}#note1 - 1]]^' bla bla

:Note 1 [[#anchor1]]: Bla bla bla bla

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: [announce] fifth release of the LyXWinInstaller

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Stephen Harris wrote:


There is a new Aspell 6.0 available for Windows


Where? I found only
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/w32/
and
http://aspell.net/win32/


SH: Installing LyX to c:\LyX worked fine with 1.3.6. Starting with
1.3.7, installing to c:\lyx would produce an error message at the
end of the install about textclass.lst and failed.


If you use my installer version 0.51?

regards Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the 0lyxpreview.ps? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)


For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) 
and installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder LyX from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.


Thanks in advance
Uwe


Re: WinInstaller 0.51

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd
- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the 0lyxpreview.ps? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)




I have sent this off list

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


It was AFPL GhostScript 8.51 but I did a full uninstall before I began with 
your installer.




Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder LyX from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.




It didn't work.

Thanks in advance
Uwe


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


I am not sure whether this is important - it appears each time before the

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

error message.

Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


Geoff



Re: Forget Windows

2005-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Helge _Editing_ with lyx 1.4 is fine, except from the occational bug.
Helge The startup time is not - it has definitely regressed, and I
Helge wonder if it has to be that way. What could lyx be up to
Helge _before_ l�oading documents?

Helge,

I tried to profile the startup time and guess where the time goes, but
did not see anything notable. It is weird.

JMarc


Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I also lost these uploaded files:
 
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll
 uploads:/LyXWinInstaller/pnmcrop.exe
 uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure.png uploads:/LyX/Manuals/xyfigure-small.png

These I haven't lost at least, the links are not correct, that's all:
 ls -1 uploads/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/
InstantPreviewScreenshot.png
InstantPrevScreen-small.png
libnetpbm10.dll
MTF.bib
pnmcrop.exe

so try something like:
uploads:/Windows/LyXWinInstaller/libnetpbm10.dll

Btw, in the new wiki, links should preferably written like one of these
examples:

[[uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]
[[some link text bla bla - uploads:/Windows/LyX/file.txt]]

To make a link that is shown as an image, write something like this:

[[uploads:/image.png - http://somesite.org]]

It's a good idea to use [[...]] for all links (but not strictly necessary
for a prefix such as uploads:, or for http:).

See here for how you find your links.
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Test/UweLinks

sincere regards
/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



Re: LyX wiki has been upgraded - Help, I need Hepl!!!

2005-12-07 Thread chr
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 Could you please actualize the following pages:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.LyXWinInstaller
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/InstantPreview
 to
 http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/LyX.InstantPreview

Just to be clear (and so that everybody knows):

From now on we are all supposed to edit and create new pages in
the new wiki (using the new markup). The old wiki pages (i.e.
0.6.15) are just there in case some conversion didn't go properly,
and you want to check exactly what the old page looked like.

To put it another way, the old pages (0.6.15) are just supposed to be a
static backup. Unfortunately, I managed to lose (some of?) the pages you
mentioned in the transition. (Conclusion: Don't do upgrades when you're
tired in the middle of the night...)

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr



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