Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi:
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net 
wrote:
   And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
  
  The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
  than 10 years ago.
 
 Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
 dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
 old!). I defended in 1997...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano

The history of LyX
This first description of the history of LyX was taken from LyX's wikipedia 
entry: Wikipedia:LyX 
Matthias Ettrich started developing the shareware programm Lyrix in 
1995(?). 
Soon after this it was announced on USENET [wikipedia.org] where it 
received great attention during the subsequent years. 
Shortly after the initial release Lyrix was renamed to Lyx due to a name-
clash with some commercial software. In this course it was also GPL'd, 
which opened the project to the open-source community. 
Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. 
by the way, in Tübingen, my home town

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  by the way, in Tübingen, my home town
 
 Cool! :)
 
 Scott

More to Matthias Ettrich:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 The history of LyX

http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/

Pavel

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following:
 LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995.

That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back
and put on the page posted in my previous mail.

BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre 0.7 source code
or announcement messages?

Pavel

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Bieniasz]

Paul A. Rubin Rubin at MSU.edu writes:

 
 Definition environment?
Sorry, I don't grasp.
Leslaw 

Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Dear List

I need the following formating in the references:
Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and 
Weitzman, E. D. (1982)
Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting 
oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.

I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx
document class book (KOMA script) 
class options: authoryear
in Bibliography Citation Style: natbib style: author-year

and get the following:
R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E. D. 
Weitzman. Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two 
interacting oscillators. AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.

Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important

Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the document 
Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
and
as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).

what I get is
Menaker et al. [1997] 
and
as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]

The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to figure 
out myself.
The most urgent question is, how could I fix it. 

Should it be done in the 
document class and class options
and/or in Bibliography Citation Style
or in the preamble?
Do I have to use makebst, or can I avoid it?

How difficult is it nowadays to use biblatex. I tried before but failed.

Wolfgang

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
 at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called LyriX,
 but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.

According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
came from David Johnson.

Was it so? :)

Liviu

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu 
wrote:
  at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called
  LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he
  changed the name.
 
 According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
 came from David Johnson.
 
 Was it so? :)
 
 Liviu

I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write 
Lyx instead of Lyrix?

Wolfgang

Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hi,

How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write
 Lyx instead of Lyrix?

What about the frustration from having to write LyX  instead of Lyx,
or even worse the following monstrosity: LyX/LaTeX, complete with the
mental tick to correctly pronounce [latek]? MiKTeX still gives me
shivers..

Liviu

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

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 Hi,

 How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?

By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.

Günter

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
  
  Hi,
  
  How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
 
 By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.


Thanks, Günter, 

but where and how?

Wolfgang

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
  On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
   [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
   
   Hi,
   
   How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
  
  By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.
 
 Thanks, Günter,
 
 but where and how?
 
 Wolfgang

using perl install -tl in the install folder?

Wolfgang

Re: Citation and reference style

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:

Dear List

I need the following formating in the references:

Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and 
Weitzman, E. D.
(1982) Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting
oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.

I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx document class book (KOMA script)
class options: authoryear
in Bibliography Citation style: natbib style: author-year

and get the following:
R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E. D. 
Weitzman.
Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting 
oscillators.
AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.

Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important

Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the document
Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
and
as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).
what I get is
Menaker et al. [1997]
and
as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]

The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to figure 
out myself.
The most urgent question is, how could I fix it.
Should it be done in the document class and class options and/or in 
Bibliography Citation
style or in the preamble? Do I have to use makebst, or can I avoid it?
How difficult is it nowadays to use biblatex. I tried before but failed.

Wolfgang


Hello:

1. I can't help you regarding biblatex as I don't have experience with it.
I like to tweak bibliography styles according to my like/need, and I found that 
it is more
difficult in biblatex than in bibtex with natbib.

2. Using bibtex, the natbib package can do what you want.
The look/style of bibliography and citations mostly will depend on 3 things:
  a. The bibliography style (.bst file).
  b. The citation command for a given citation.
  c. The content of the bibtex database (.bib file).

3. Let's go through it how to get the styles you want.

In LyX go to Document-Settings. Do not apply the class option 'authoryear'
you mentioned. Go to 'Bibliography' and select 'Natbib' and 'Natbib-style:
Author-Year. This loads natbib package automatically. Click OK or Apply.

In the document where you want to insert your reference list, do:
Insert-List/TOC-BibTeX bibliography. Select a style file (e.g. plainnat) and
your bibtex database (.bib) file. Click OK.

Next insert a citation into your document by Insert-Citation or clicking the
insert citation icon. Select the citations, click 'Add'. Look at the 
'Formatting:
Citation style' pulldown menu in the window. Here you can select the style of
the citation; 'Menaker et al. (1997)' or '(Lamprey et al. 1997)'.

By default you will get [ ] limiters, but you need ( ) instead.
Write in your document preamble (Document-Settings-LaTeX Preamble):

\setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

The aysep={} defines the separator between author and name in the citations.

Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
You can also try the different style files which come with latex
installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
or bib-it. See this message:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html

I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.

bcsikos



authdate.bst
Description: Binary data

Re: Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 13:34:33 schrieb Csikos Bela:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
 Dear List
 
 I need the following formating in the references:
 
 Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and
 Weitzman, E. D. (1982) Mathematical model of the human circadian
 system with two interacting oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.
 
 I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx document class book (KOMA script)
 class options: authoryear
 in Bibliography Citation style: natbib style: author-year
 
 and get the following:
 R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E.
 D. Weitzman. Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two
 interacting oscillators. AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.
 
 Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important
 
 Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the
 document Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
 and
 as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).
 what I get is
 Menaker et al. [1997]
 and
 as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]
 
 The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to
 figure out myself. The most urgent question is, how could I fix it.
 Should it be done in the document class and class options and/or in
 Bibliography Citation style or in the preamble? Do I have to use
 makebst, or can I avoid it? How difficult is it nowadays to use
 biblatex. I tried before but failed.
 
 Wolfgang

Thanks, Csikos
for your comprehensive explanation. Unfortunately, I have still questions.
 
 Hello:
 
 1. I can't help you regarding biblatex as I don't have experience with
 it. I like to tweak bibliography styles according to my like/need, and
 I found that it is more difficult in biblatex than in bibtex with
 natbib.

So I select under toolsoutputlatex Bibliography Processor  bibtex 
(or custom? or bibtex8?)
 
 2. Using bibtex, the natbib package can do what you want.
 The look/style of bibliography and citations mostly will depend on 3
 things: a. The bibliography style (.bst file).
   b. The citation command for a given citation.
   c. The content of the bibtex database (.bib file).
 
 3. Let's go through it how to get the styles you want.
 
 In LyX go to Document-Settings. Do not apply the class option
 'authoryear' you mentioned. Go to 'Bibliography' and select 'Natbib'
 and 'Natbib-style: Author-Year. This loads natbib package
 automatically. Click OK or Apply.

done

 
 In the document where you want to insert your reference list, do:
 Insert-List/TOC-BibTeX bibliography. Select a style file (e.g.
 plainnat) and your bibtex database (.bib) file. Click OK.
 
 Next insert a citation into your document by Insert-Citation or
 clicking the insert citation icon. Select the citations, click 'Add'.

ok

 Look at the 'Formatting: Citation style' pulldown menu in the window.
 Here you can select the style of the citation; 'Menaker et al. (1997)'
 or '(Lamprey et al. 1997)'.

Since I have over 700 citations, I used Jabref for my bibliography and 
clicked the references via the lyx-export of jabref to the corresponding 
places of my document. If I use \setcitestyle{aysep={}} instead of your 
proposed \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}, and if I put () around the 
citation, I get what I need. But what about eg: 
(Praschak-Rieder and Willeit 2012)
and in case of three authors and more 
(Crosthwait et al. 1997)?
 
 By default you will get [ ] limiters, but you need ( ) instead.
 Write in your document preamble (Document-Settings-LaTeX Preamble):
 
 \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

 
 The aysep={} defines the separator between author and name in the
 citations.
 
 Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
 You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
 You can also try the different style files which come with latex
 installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
 Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
 or bib-it. See this message:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html
 
 I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.
 
 bcsikos

will try your style, thanks a lot

Wolfgang

Re: Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 13:34:33 schrieb Csikos Bela:

snip
 Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
 You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
 You can also try the different style files which come with latex
 installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
 Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
 or bib-it. See this message:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html
 
 I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.
 
 bcsikos

Where in the .lyx file (or elsewhere) would I place the authdate.bst file you 
kindly supplied?
Under layouts? Which is empty so far.

Wolfgang

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:20:42 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
  Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
   On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
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Hi,

How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
   
   By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.
  
  Thanks, Günter,
  
  but where and how?
  
  Wolfgang
 
 using perl install -tl in the install folder?
 
 Wolfgang

 
I get with which tex 
/mnt/sda/home/wolfgang/texlive/2012/bin/i386-linux/tex

although I did perl install and texhash and made a file  zzz-texlive.sh in 
/etc/profile.d/ 
providing the paths

Any idea what I did wrong?

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following:
 LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995.

That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back
and put on the page posted in my previous mail.

BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre 0.7 source code
or announcement messages?

Not that I can find at the moment.  I can look on an older computer 
tonight (but it probably isn't old enough).  Of course, the 
announcements that were posted to usenet might still be findable.


I'll let you know if I find anything.

--

David L. Johnson

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnsond...@lehigh.edu  wrote:

at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called LyriX,
but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.


According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
came from David Johnson.

Was it so? :)




If Matthais says so.  I remember the discussion --- between the two of 
us at the time, as I recall.  I did point out that the extension was 
already .lyx.  He came up with the original name somehow wanting to 
link in a musical reference, which I suggested would also apply to LyX.


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200
Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:

 Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
  
  engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
   by the way, in Tübingen, my home town
  
  Cool! :)
  
  Scott
 
 More to Matthias Ettrich:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich
 
 Wolfgang

I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My
business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake.
Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact Qt built apps seem easier to
configure, from my point of view, than Gtk built apps.

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?


Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Citation and reference style

[Csikos Bela]

So I select under toolsoutputlatex Bibliography Processor  bibtex
(or custom? or bibtex8?)

It seems you are using an older lyx version. It should work with it, still I 
suggest
upgrading lyx to version 2.x.

Set bibliography processor to bibtex. bibtex8 might work as well, I never tried 
it.
If you select bibtex, make sure those fields in the bib database file that will 
be in
the output do have only ASCII or latin-1 encoded characters. Special characters
should be replaced by latex commands (eg. ö is \{o} etc.).

Since I have over 700 citations, I used Jabref for my bibliography and
clicked the references via the lyx-export of jabref to the corresponding
places of my document. If I use \setcitestyle{aysep={}} instead of your
proposed \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}, and if I put () around the
citation, I get what I need.

Do not add manually '(' and ')' around citations. The opening and closing
braces (rounded, square, or other) are part of the citation.
And it is better to add the citations within lyx.

I don't know if jabref can handle the two different types of citations:
 ' and 'text (Author year) text'. Can it make a
difference? If you insert the citations within lyx you can select which
type you want. If you look at the source you can see that the latex
command for the two types are different, \citet and \citep.

Also, if you have several citations in a group, lyx can handle it.
Can jabref handle that?

Unfortunately you have to go through all the citations and adjust them
manually. Or you can work on the .lyx source file directly using a text
editor and replacing all cite* command with citep. (Make a backup
of the original file before editing!) After this open your edited file
in lyx, find the few (I suppose) occasions of 'text Author (year) text'
type citations and adjust them manually.

The  \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} and  \setcitestyle{aysep={}}
commands in the preamble have the same effect, as round is the
default option in case of author-year citation. Removing or adding it
does not make any difference.

But what about eg: (Praschak-Rieder and Willeit 2012) and in case
of three authors and more (Crosthwait et al. 1997)?

I don't understand what your question is.
Unfortunately latex handles citations in goups. One group is all
the citations selected and added at the same time. All these citations
will be between the same pair of parentheses. If you add neighboring
citations separately, they will be within different parentheses pairs.

The source also shows the difference. For example.

3 citations in one group:

\citep{citation1,citation2,citaton3}

The output will be:

(author1 year1, author2 year2, author3 year3)

However if you add them separately, like this:

\citep{citation1} \citep{citation2} \cite{citaton3}

the output will be:

(author1 year1) (author2 year2) (author3 year3)

You can adjust the opening and closing braces and the seperators
between authors etc using \setcitestyle.

Read the natbib manual (available at CTAN) section 2.9 Selecting
citation punctuation.

Where in the .lyx file (or elsewhere) would I place the authdate.bst
file you kindly supplied?

You can put it anywhere you want, but the best place is the directory
where your .lyx file is. You select the bst file by clicking 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' and browse for it.

If you still have questions don't hesitate to ask, but be specific, please.

bcsikos

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:19:04 + (UTC)
Bieniasz nbbie...@cyf-kr.edu.pl wrote:

 Paul A. Rubin Rubin at MSU.edu writes:
 
  
  Definition environment?
 Sorry, I don't grasp.
 Leslaw 

I don't grasp either. Perhaps he meant the Description environment,
but that doesn't bring you much closer to your desired alignment than
anything else.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit :

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?


This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we 
won in the end :)


JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:

 Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit :
  In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app,
  and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?
 
 This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we 
 won in the end :)
 
 JMarc

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you,
THANK YOU for winning that battle!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Paul A . Rubin]

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com writes:


 I don't grasp either. Perhaps he meant the Description environment,
 but that doesn't bring you much closer to your desired alignment than
 anything else.
 

Yes, sorry, I did mean Description (the analogous environment in HTML is
definition). I'm not near a copy of LyX at the moment, but doesn't
Description set the space between first word and descriptive text so that
left borders of consecutive descriptions align?

Another option wood be to use a table, but that introduces additional space.

Paul

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Csikos Bela]

Bieniasz nbbie...@cyf-kr.edu.pl írta:

Hello,

I am using the Springer svmono class under LyX, to write a monograph.
The class has a template for acronyms, which allows authors to make
explanations in the following way:

XXX  {blablabla}
  {blablablabla}
ZZ  {blabla}

This means, that an acronym to be explained is followed
by an explanation in braces. The problem seems to be that the
explanations are not aligned to any vertical line, but occur in
various places, depending on the length of the explained symbol.
This looks rather ugly (as is shown above). 

My question is: can one do anything to force the alignment of
all left braces at the same distance from the left margin?

I would like to have something like in following list:

XXX   {blablabla}
  {blablablabla}
ZZ{blabla}

  Leslaw


Hello:

I don't know about the class you mention, but lyx has a 'Labeling'
environment in article (possibly other) class. It does what you
described.

bcsikos

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:

Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My
business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake.
Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact Qt built apps seem easier to
configure, from my point of view, than Gtk built apps.

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?
Well, Matthais, as you know, started KDE, so this gets to be a delicate 
discussion.  IIRC, at that time LyX depended on the Xforms widgets 
(which was a step up from the original Motif in terms of programming, if 
not appearance).  Matthias did port LyX to the KDE project, as klyx, but 
that died out when lyx went with Qt.  KDE does still seem to be alive.


But LyX has now grown beyond the linux/unix base, and so these 
widget-set/desktop-environment distinctions are no longer important.


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Paul Rubin]

Just checked, and Description does not justify the left edges of the
description texts the way I thought it did. Sorry for the noise. There's a
solution to a related question at
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/46458/how-to-align-description-item-labels-on-the-right
that might be adapted to this purpose.

Paul

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Jerry]

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700
 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:
 
 My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is
 to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into
 LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.
 
 How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreOffice? When I try
 it, I see only raw text; it is not rendered. I let the file dialog
 display all files and assumed that the .xhtml file extension would
 tell LO what to do but obviously this did not happen.
 
 Jerry,
 
 One of the inevitable problems. Try changing the .xhtml file extension
 to .html. I think you can also delve into the advanced settings of
 LibreOffice to tell it to treat .xhtml files as HTML.
 
 Les

Les, thanks for that tip, but it didn't change anything--still raw text, either 
with a document with a few equations (and thus MathML in the XHTML file) or 
just a simple file containing only the word Hello.

FWIW, when I do open the (x)html file, I get a dialog asking for Character set 
(default = UTF-8), Default fonts (default = Times New Roman), Language (default 
= English (US)) and Paragraph break (default = LF). I accepted all the 
defaults. So it looks at that point like something is about to happen, but then 
I see only raw text. 

I also looked at Tools - Options - Load/Save - HTML Compatibility but didn't 
see anything relevant.

Jerry

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Alan L Tyree]

On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote:

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:


On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700
Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:


On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:


My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is
to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into
LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.

How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreOffice? When I try
it, I see only raw text; it is not rendered. I let the file dialog
display all files and assumed that the .xhtml file extension would
tell LO what to do but obviously this did not happen.


Jerry,

One of the inevitable problems. Try changing the .xhtml file extension
to .html. I think you can also delve into the advanced settings of
LibreOffice to tell it to treat .xhtml files as HTML.

Les

Les, thanks for that tip, but it didn't change anything--still raw text, either with a 
document with a few equations (and thus MathML in the XHTML file) or just a simple file 
containing only the word Hello.

FWIW, when I do open the (x)html file, I get a dialog asking for Character set 
(default = UTF-8), Default fonts (default = Times New Roman), Language (default 
= English (US)) and Paragraph break (default = LF). I accepted all the 
defaults. So it looks at that point like something is about to happen, but then 
I see only raw text.

I also looked at Tools - Options - Load/Save - HTML Compatibility but didn't 
see anything relevant.

Jerry
Open the HTML file in a text editor and remove the first line, ie, ?xml 
version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?


It should then open in LibreOffice.

Cheers,
Alan

--
Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206  sip:typh...@iptel.org

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi:
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net 
wrote:
   And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
  
  The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
  than 10 years ago.
 
 Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
 dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
 old!). I defended in 1997...
 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano

The history of LyX
This first description of the history of LyX was taken from LyX's wikipedia 
entry: Wikipedia:LyX 
Matthias Ettrich started developing the shareware programm Lyrix in 
1995(?). 
Soon after this it was announced on USENET [wikipedia.org] where it 
received great attention during the subsequent years. 
Shortly after the initial release Lyrix was renamed to Lyx due to a name-
clash with some commercial software. In this course it was also GPL'd, 
which opened the project to the open-source community. 
Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. 
by the way, in Tübingen, my home town

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  by the way, in Tübingen, my home town
 
 Cool! :)
 
 Scott

More to Matthias Ettrich:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 The history of LyX

http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/

Pavel

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following:
 LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995.

That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back
and put on the page posted in my previous mail.

BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre 0.7 source code
or announcement messages?

Pavel

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Bieniasz]

Paul A. Rubin Rubin at MSU.edu writes:

 
 Definition environment?
Sorry, I don't grasp.
Leslaw 

Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Dear List

I need the following formating in the references:
Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and 
Weitzman, E. D. (1982)
Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting 
oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.

I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx
document class book (KOMA script) 
class options: authoryear
in Bibliography Citation Style: natbib style: author-year

and get the following:
R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E. D. 
Weitzman. Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two 
interacting oscillators. AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.

Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important

Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the document 
Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
and
as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).

what I get is
Menaker et al. [1997] 
and
as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]

The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to figure 
out myself.
The most urgent question is, how could I fix it. 

Should it be done in the 
document class and class options
and/or in Bibliography Citation Style
or in the preamble?
Do I have to use makebst, or can I avoid it?

How difficult is it nowadays to use biblatex. I tried before but failed.

Wolfgang

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu wrote:
 at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called LyriX,
 but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.

According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
came from David Johnson.

Was it so? :)

Liviu

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson d...@lehigh.edu 
wrote:
  at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called
  LyriX, but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he
  changed the name.
 
 According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
 came from David Johnson.
 
 Was it so? :)
 
 Liviu

I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write 
Lyx instead of Lyrix?

Wolfgang

Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hi,

How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
 I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write
 Lyx instead of Lyrix?

What about the frustration from having to write LyX  instead of Lyx,
or even worse the following monstrosity: LyX/LaTeX, complete with the
mental tick to correctly pronounce [latek]? MiKTeX still gives me
shivers..

Liviu

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]

 Hi,

 How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?

By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.

Günter

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
  
  Hi,
  
  How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
 
 By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.


Thanks, Günter, 

but where and how?

Wolfgang

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
  On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
   [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
   
   Hi,
   
   How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
  
  By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.
 
 Thanks, Günter,
 
 but where and how?
 
 Wolfgang

using perl install -tl in the install folder?

Wolfgang

Re: Citation and reference style

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:

Dear List

I need the following formating in the references:

Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and 
Weitzman, E. D.
(1982) Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting
oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.

I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx document class book (KOMA script)
class options: authoryear
in Bibliography Citation style: natbib style: author-year

and get the following:
R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E. D. 
Weitzman.
Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting 
oscillators.
AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.

Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important

Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the document
Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
and
as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).
what I get is
Menaker et al. [1997]
and
as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]

The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to figure 
out myself.
The most urgent question is, how could I fix it.
Should it be done in the document class and class options and/or in 
Bibliography Citation
style or in the preamble? Do I have to use makebst, or can I avoid it?
How difficult is it nowadays to use biblatex. I tried before but failed.

Wolfgang


Hello:

1. I can't help you regarding biblatex as I don't have experience with it.
I like to tweak bibliography styles according to my like/need, and I found that 
it is more
difficult in biblatex than in bibtex with natbib.

2. Using bibtex, the natbib package can do what you want.
The look/style of bibliography and citations mostly will depend on 3 things:
  a. The bibliography style (.bst file).
  b. The citation command for a given citation.
  c. The content of the bibtex database (.bib file).

3. Let's go through it how to get the styles you want.

In LyX go to Document-Settings. Do not apply the class option 'authoryear'
you mentioned. Go to 'Bibliography' and select 'Natbib' and 'Natbib-style:
Author-Year. This loads natbib package automatically. Click OK or Apply.

In the document where you want to insert your reference list, do:
Insert-List/TOC-BibTeX bibliography. Select a style file (e.g. plainnat) and
your bibtex database (.bib) file. Click OK.

Next insert a citation into your document by Insert-Citation or clicking the
insert citation icon. Select the citations, click 'Add'. Look at the 
'Formatting:
Citation style' pulldown menu in the window. Here you can select the style of
the citation; 'Menaker et al. (1997)' or '(Lamprey et al. 1997)'.

By default you will get [ ] limiters, but you need ( ) instead.
Write in your document preamble (Document-Settings-LaTeX Preamble):

\setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

The aysep={} defines the separator between author and name in the citations.

Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
You can also try the different style files which come with latex
installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
or bib-it. See this message:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html

I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.

bcsikos



authdate.bst
Description: Binary data

Re: Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 13:34:33 schrieb Csikos Bela:
 Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de írta:
 Dear List
 
 I need the following formating in the references:
 
 Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and
 Weitzman, E. D. (1982) Mathematical model of the human circadian
 system with two interacting oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.
 
 I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx document class book (KOMA script)
 class options: authoryear
 in Bibliography Citation style: natbib style: author-year
 
 and get the following:
 R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E.
 D. Weitzman. Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two
 interacting oscillators. AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.
 
 Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important
 
 Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the
 document Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
 and
 as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).
 what I get is
 Menaker et al. [1997]
 and
 as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]
 
 The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to
 figure out myself. The most urgent question is, how could I fix it.
 Should it be done in the document class and class options and/or in
 Bibliography Citation style or in the preamble? Do I have to use
 makebst, or can I avoid it? How difficult is it nowadays to use
 biblatex. I tried before but failed.
 
 Wolfgang

Thanks, Csikos
for your comprehensive explanation. Unfortunately, I have still questions.
 
 Hello:
 
 1. I can't help you regarding biblatex as I don't have experience with
 it. I like to tweak bibliography styles according to my like/need, and
 I found that it is more difficult in biblatex than in bibtex with
 natbib.

So I select under toolsoutputlatex Bibliography Processor  bibtex 
(or custom? or bibtex8?)
 
 2. Using bibtex, the natbib package can do what you want.
 The look/style of bibliography and citations mostly will depend on 3
 things: a. The bibliography style (.bst file).
   b. The citation command for a given citation.
   c. The content of the bibtex database (.bib file).
 
 3. Let's go through it how to get the styles you want.
 
 In LyX go to Document-Settings. Do not apply the class option
 'authoryear' you mentioned. Go to 'Bibliography' and select 'Natbib'
 and 'Natbib-style: Author-Year. This loads natbib package
 automatically. Click OK or Apply.

done

 
 In the document where you want to insert your reference list, do:
 Insert-List/TOC-BibTeX bibliography. Select a style file (e.g.
 plainnat) and your bibtex database (.bib) file. Click OK.
 
 Next insert a citation into your document by Insert-Citation or
 clicking the insert citation icon. Select the citations, click 'Add'.

ok

 Look at the 'Formatting: Citation style' pulldown menu in the window.
 Here you can select the style of the citation; 'Menaker et al. (1997)'
 or '(Lamprey et al. 1997)'.

Since I have over 700 citations, I used Jabref for my bibliography and 
clicked the references via the lyx-export of jabref to the corresponding 
places of my document. If I use \setcitestyle{aysep={}} instead of your 
proposed \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}, and if I put () around the 
citation, I get what I need. But what about eg: 
(Praschak-Rieder and Willeit 2012)
and in case of three authors and more 
(Crosthwait et al. 1997)?
 
 By default you will get [ ] limiters, but you need ( ) instead.
 Write in your document preamble (Document-Settings-LaTeX Preamble):
 
 \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

 
 The aysep={} defines the separator between author and name in the
 citations.
 
 Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
 You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
 You can also try the different style files which come with latex
 installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
 Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
 or bib-it. See this message:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html
 
 I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.
 
 bcsikos

will try your style, thanks a lot

Wolfgang

Re: Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 13:34:33 schrieb Csikos Bela:

snip
 Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
 You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
 You can also try the different style files which come with latex
 installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
 Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
 or bib-it. See this message:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html
 
 I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.
 
 bcsikos

Where in the .lyx file (or elsewhere) would I place the authdate.bst file you 
kindly supplied?
Under layouts? Which is empty so far.

Wolfgang

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:20:42 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
  Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
   On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
[-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]

Hi,

How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
   
   By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.
  
  Thanks, Günter,
  
  but where and how?
  
  Wolfgang
 
 using perl install -tl in the install folder?
 
 Wolfgang

 
I get with which tex 
/mnt/sda/home/wolfgang/texlive/2012/bin/i386-linux/tex

although I did perl install and texhash and made a file  zzz-texlive.sh in 
/etc/profile.d/ 
providing the paths

Any idea what I did wrong?

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following:
 LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995.

That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back
and put on the page posted in my previous mail.

BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre 0.7 source code
or announcement messages?

Not that I can find at the moment.  I can look on an older computer 
tonight (but it probably isn't old enough).  Of course, the 
announcements that were posted to usenet might still be findable.


I'll let you know if I find anything.

--

David L. Johnson

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnsond...@lehigh.edu  wrote:

at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called LyriX,
but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.


According to Matthias: The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
came from David Johnson.

Was it so? :)




If Matthais says so.  I remember the discussion --- between the two of 
us at the time, as I recall.  I did point out that the extension was 
already .lyx.  He came up with the original name somehow wanting to 
link in a musical reference, which I suggested would also apply to LyX.


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200
Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:

 Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
  
  engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
   by the way, in Tübingen, my home town
  
  Cool! :)
  
  Scott
 
 More to Matthias Ettrich:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich
 
 Wolfgang

I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My
business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake.
Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact Qt built apps seem easier to
configure, from my point of view, than Gtk built apps.

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?


Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Citation and reference style

[Csikos Bela]

So I select under toolsoutputlatex Bibliography Processor  bibtex
(or custom? or bibtex8?)

It seems you are using an older lyx version. It should work with it, still I 
suggest
upgrading lyx to version 2.x.

Set bibliography processor to bibtex. bibtex8 might work as well, I never tried 
it.
If you select bibtex, make sure those fields in the bib database file that will 
be in
the output do have only ASCII or latin-1 encoded characters. Special characters
should be replaced by latex commands (eg. ö is \{o} etc.).

Since I have over 700 citations, I used Jabref for my bibliography and
clicked the references via the lyx-export of jabref to the corresponding
places of my document. If I use \setcitestyle{aysep={}} instead of your
proposed \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}, and if I put () around the
citation, I get what I need.

Do not add manually '(' and ')' around citations. The opening and closing
braces (rounded, square, or other) are part of the citation.
And it is better to add the citations within lyx.

I don't know if jabref can handle the two different types of citations:
 ' and 'text (Author year) text'. Can it make a
difference? If you insert the citations within lyx you can select which
type you want. If you look at the source you can see that the latex
command for the two types are different, \citet and \citep.

Also, if you have several citations in a group, lyx can handle it.
Can jabref handle that?

Unfortunately you have to go through all the citations and adjust them
manually. Or you can work on the .lyx source file directly using a text
editor and replacing all cite* command with citep. (Make a backup
of the original file before editing!) After this open your edited file
in lyx, find the few (I suppose) occasions of 'text Author (year) text'
type citations and adjust them manually.

The  \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} and  \setcitestyle{aysep={}}
commands in the preamble have the same effect, as round is the
default option in case of author-year citation. Removing or adding it
does not make any difference.

But what about eg: (Praschak-Rieder and Willeit 2012) and in case
of three authors and more (Crosthwait et al. 1997)?

I don't understand what your question is.
Unfortunately latex handles citations in goups. One group is all
the citations selected and added at the same time. All these citations
will be between the same pair of parentheses. If you add neighboring
citations separately, they will be within different parentheses pairs.

The source also shows the difference. For example.

3 citations in one group:

\citep{citation1,citation2,citaton3}

The output will be:

(author1 year1, author2 year2, author3 year3)

However if you add them separately, like this:

\citep{citation1} \citep{citation2} \cite{citaton3}

the output will be:

(author1 year1) (author2 year2) (author3 year3)

You can adjust the opening and closing braces and the seperators
between authors etc using \setcitestyle.

Read the natbib manual (available at CTAN) section 2.9 Selecting
citation punctuation.

Where in the .lyx file (or elsewhere) would I place the authdate.bst
file you kindly supplied?

You can put it anywhere you want, but the best place is the directory
where your .lyx file is. You select the bst file by clicking 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' and browse for it.

If you still have questions don't hesitate to ask, but be specific, please.

bcsikos

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:19:04 + (UTC)
Bieniasz nbbie...@cyf-kr.edu.pl wrote:

 Paul A. Rubin Rubin at MSU.edu writes:
 
  
  Definition environment?
 Sorry, I don't grasp.
 Leslaw 

I don't grasp either. Perhaps he meant the Description environment,
but that doesn't bring you much closer to your desired alignment than
anything else.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit :

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?


This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we 
won in the end :)


JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:

 Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit :
  In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app,
  and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?
 
 This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we 
 won in the end :)
 
 JMarc

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you,
THANK YOU for winning that battle!

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Paul A . Rubin]

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com writes:


 I don't grasp either. Perhaps he meant the Description environment,
 but that doesn't bring you much closer to your desired alignment than
 anything else.
 

Yes, sorry, I did mean Description (the analogous environment in HTML is
definition). I'm not near a copy of LyX at the moment, but doesn't
Description set the space between first word and descriptive text so that
left borders of consecutive descriptions align?

Another option wood be to use a table, but that introduces additional space.

Paul

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Csikos Bela]

Bieniasz nbbie...@cyf-kr.edu.pl írta:

Hello,

I am using the Springer svmono class under LyX, to write a monograph.
The class has a template for acronyms, which allows authors to make
explanations in the following way:

XXX  {blablabla}
  {blablablabla}
ZZ  {blabla}

This means, that an acronym to be explained is followed
by an explanation in braces. The problem seems to be that the
explanations are not aligned to any vertical line, but occur in
various places, depending on the length of the explained symbol.
This looks rather ugly (as is shown above). 

My question is: can one do anything to force the alignment of
all left braces at the same distance from the left margin?

I would like to have something like in following list:

XXX   {blablabla}
  {blablablabla}
ZZ{blabla}

  Leslaw


Hello:

I don't know about the class you mention, but lyx has a 'Labeling'
environment in article (possibly other) class. It does what you
described.

bcsikos

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:

Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My
business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake.
Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact Qt built apps seem easier to
configure, from my point of view, than Gtk built apps.

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?
Well, Matthais, as you know, started KDE, so this gets to be a delicate 
discussion.  IIRC, at that time LyX depended on the Xforms widgets 
(which was a step up from the original Motif in terms of programming, if 
not appearance).  Matthias did port LyX to the KDE project, as klyx, but 
that died out when lyx went with Qt.  KDE does still seem to be alive.


But LyX has now grown beyond the linux/unix base, and so these 
widget-set/desktop-environment distinctions are no longer important.


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Paul Rubin]

Just checked, and Description does not justify the left edges of the
description texts the way I thought it did. Sorry for the noise. There's a
solution to a related question at
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/46458/how-to-align-description-item-labels-on-the-right
that might be adapted to this purpose.

Paul

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Jerry]

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700
 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:
 
 My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is
 to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into
 LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.
 
 How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreOffice? When I try
 it, I see only raw text; it is not rendered. I let the file dialog
 display all files and assumed that the .xhtml file extension would
 tell LO what to do but obviously this did not happen.
 
 Jerry,
 
 One of the inevitable problems. Try changing the .xhtml file extension
 to .html. I think you can also delve into the advanced settings of
 LibreOffice to tell it to treat .xhtml files as HTML.
 
 Les

Les, thanks for that tip, but it didn't change anything--still raw text, either 
with a document with a few equations (and thus MathML in the XHTML file) or 
just a simple file containing only the word Hello.

FWIW, when I do open the (x)html file, I get a dialog asking for Character set 
(default = UTF-8), Default fonts (default = Times New Roman), Language (default 
= English (US)) and Paragraph break (default = LF). I accepted all the 
defaults. So it looks at that point like something is about to happen, but then 
I see only raw text. 

I also looked at Tools - Options - Load/Save - HTML Compatibility but didn't 
see anything relevant.

Jerry

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Alan L Tyree]

On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote:

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:


On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700
Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:


On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham lden...@hal-pc.org wrote:


My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is
to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into
LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.

How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreOffice? When I try
it, I see only raw text; it is not rendered. I let the file dialog
display all files and assumed that the .xhtml file extension would
tell LO what to do but obviously this did not happen.


Jerry,

One of the inevitable problems. Try changing the .xhtml file extension
to .html. I think you can also delve into the advanced settings of
LibreOffice to tell it to treat .xhtml files as HTML.

Les

Les, thanks for that tip, but it didn't change anything--still raw text, either with a 
document with a few equations (and thus MathML in the XHTML file) or just a simple file 
containing only the word Hello.

FWIW, when I do open the (x)html file, I get a dialog asking for Character set 
(default = UTF-8), Default fonts (default = Times New Roman), Language (default 
= English (US)) and Paragraph break (default = LF). I accepted all the 
defaults. So it looks at that point like something is about to happen, but then 
I see only raw text.

I also looked at Tools - Options - Load/Save - HTML Compatibility but didn't 
see anything relevant.

Jerry
Open the HTML file in a text editor and remove the first line, ie, ?xml 
version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?


It should then open in LibreOffice.

Cheers,
Alan

--
Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206  sip:typh...@iptel.org

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller  
wrote:
> > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so.
> > 
> > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer
> > than 10 years ago.
> 
> Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my
> dissertation (which I wrote in Framemaker, on a NeXt cube. Boy am I
> old!). I defended in 1997...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefano

The history of LyX
This first description of the history of LyX was taken from LyX's wikipedia 
entry: Wikipedia:LyX 
Matthias Ettrich started developing the shareware programm Lyrix in 
1995(?). 
Soon after this it was announced on USENET [wikipedia.org] where it 
received great attention during the subsequent years. 
Shortly after the initial release Lyrix was renamed to Lyx due to a name-
clash with some commercial software. In this course it was also GPL'd, 
which opened the project to the open-source community. 
Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. 
by the way, in Tübingen, my home town

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
> 
>  wrote:
> > by the way, in Tübingen, my home town
> 
> Cool! :)
> 
> Scott

More to Matthias Ettrich:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> The history of LyX

http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/

Pavel

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following:
> LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995.

That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back
and put on the page posted in my previous mail.

BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre 0.7 source code
or announcement messages?

Pavel

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Bieniasz]

Paul A. Rubin  MSU.edu> writes:

 
> Definition environment?
Sorry, I don't grasp.
Leslaw 

Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Dear List

I need the following formating in the references:
Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and 
Weitzman, E. D. (1982)
Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting 
oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.

I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx
document class> book (KOMA script) 
class options: authoryear
in Bibliography Citation Style: natbib style: author-year

and get the following:
R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E. D. 
Weitzman. Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two 
interacting oscillators. AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.

Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important

Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the document 
Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
and
as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).

what I get is
Menaker et al. [1997] 
and
as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]

The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to figure 
out myself.
The most urgent question is, how could I fix it. 

Should it be done in the 
document class and class options
and/or in Bibliography Citation Style
or in the preamble?
Do I have to use makebst, or can I avoid it?

How difficult is it nowadays to use biblatex. I tried before but failed.

Wolfgang

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson  wrote:
> at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called "LyriX",
> but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.
>
According to Matthias: "The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
came from David Johnson."

Was it so? :)

Liviu

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson  
wrote:
> > at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called
> > "LyriX", but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he
> > changed the name.
> 
> According to Matthias: "The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
> came from David Johnson."
> 
> Was it so? :)
> 
> Liviu

I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write 
Lyx instead of Lyrix?

Wolfgang

Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Hi,

How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Liviu Andronic]

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:
> I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write
> Lyx instead of Lyrix?
>
What about the frustration from having to write LyX  instead of Lyx,
or even worse the following monstrosity: LyX/LaTeX, complete with the
mental tick to correctly pronounce [latek]? MiKTeX still gives me
shivers..

Liviu

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Guenter Milde]

On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]

> Hi,

> How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?

By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.

Günter

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
> On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
> 
> By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.


Thanks, Günter, 

but where and how?

Wolfgang

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
> > On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
> > 
> > By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.
> 
> Thanks, Günter,
> 
> but where and how?
> 
> Wolfgang

using perl install -tl in the install folder?

Wolfgang

Re: Citation and reference style

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
>
>Dear List
>
>I need the following formating in the references:
>
>Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and 
>Weitzman, E. D.
>(1982) Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting
>oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.
>
>I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx document class> book (KOMA script)
>class options: authoryear
>in Bibliography Citation style: natbib style: author-year
>
>and get the following:
>R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E. D. 
>Weitzman.
>Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two interacting 
>oscillators.
>AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.
>
>Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important
>
>Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the document
>Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
>and
>as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).
>what I get is
>Menaker et al. [1997]
>and
>as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]
>
>The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to figure 
>out myself.
>The most urgent question is, how could I fix it.
>Should it be done in the document class and class options and/or in 
>Bibliography Citation
>style or in the preamble? Do I have to use makebst, or can I avoid it?
>How difficult is it nowadays to use biblatex. I tried before but failed.
>
>Wolfgang


Hello:

1. I can't help you regarding biblatex as I don't have experience with it.
I like to tweak bibliography styles according to my like/need, and I found that 
it is more
difficult in biblatex than in bibtex with natbib.

2. Using bibtex, the natbib package can do what you want.
The look/style of bibliography and citations mostly will depend on 3 things:
  a. The bibliography style (.bst file).
  b. The citation command for a given citation.
  c. The content of the bibtex database (.bib file).

3. Let's go through it how to get the styles you want.

In LyX go to Document->Settings. Do not apply the class option 'authoryear'
you mentioned. Go to 'Bibliography' and select 'Natbib' and 'Natbib-style:
Author-Year". This loads natbib package automatically. Click OK or Apply.

In the document where you want to insert your reference list, do:
Insert->List/TOC->BibTeX bibliography. Select a style file (e.g. plainnat) and
your bibtex database (.bib) file. Click OK.

Next insert a citation into your document by Insert->Citation or clicking the
insert citation icon. Select the citations, click 'Add'. Look at the 
'Formatting:
Citation style' pulldown menu in the window. Here you can select the style of
the citation; 'Menaker et al. (1997)' or '(Lamprey et al. 1997)'.

By default you will get [ ] limiters, but you need ( ) instead.
Write in your document preamble (Document->Settings->LaTeX Preamble):

\setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

The aysep={} defines the separator between author and name in the citations.

Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
You can also try the different style files which come with latex
installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
or bib-it. See this message:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html

I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.

bcsikos



authdate.bst
Description: Binary data

Re: Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 13:34:33 schrieb Csikos Bela:
> Wolfgang Engelmann  írta:
> >Dear List
> >
> >I need the following formating in the references:
> >
> >Kronauer, R. E., Czeisler, C. A., Pilato, S. F., Moore-Ede, M. C. and
> >Weitzman, E. D. (1982) Mathematical model of the human circadian
> >system with two interacting oscillators. Am. J. Physiol. 242, 3–17.
> >
> >I use under Debian squeeze in Lyx document class> book (KOMA script)
> >class options: authoryear
> >in Bibliography Citation style: natbib style: author-year
> >
> >and get the following:
> >R. E. Kronauer, C. A. Czeisler, S. F. Pilato, M. C. Moore-Ede, and E.
> >D. Weitzman. Mathematical model of the human circadian system with two
> >interacting oscillators. AmPhysiol, 242:3–17, 1982.
> >
> >Note: The abbreviation of the Journal name is not important
> >
> >Furthermore, I need the following formating of citations in the
> >document Menaker et al. (1997) says ..
> >and
> >as mentioned (Lamprey et al. 1997).
> >what I get is
> >Menaker et al. [1997]
> >and
> >as mentioned Lamprey et al. [1997]
> >
> >The main question is, where in the net could I find examples for it to
> >figure out myself. The most urgent question is, how could I fix it.
> >Should it be done in the document class and class options and/or in
> >Bibliography Citation style or in the preamble? Do I have to use
> >makebst, or can I avoid it? How difficult is it nowadays to use
> >biblatex. I tried before but failed.
> >
> >Wolfgang

Thanks, Csikos
for your comprehensive explanation. Unfortunately, I have still questions.
> 
> Hello:
> 
> 1. I can't help you regarding biblatex as I don't have experience with
> it. I like to tweak bibliography styles according to my like/need, and
> I found that it is more difficult in biblatex than in bibtex with
> natbib.

So I select under tools>output>latex> Bibliography Processor > bibtex 
(or custom? or bibtex8?)
> 
> 2. Using bibtex, the natbib package can do what you want.
> The look/style of bibliography and citations mostly will depend on 3
> things: a. The bibliography style (.bst file).
>   b. The citation command for a given citation.
>   c. The content of the bibtex database (.bib file).
> 
> 3. Let's go through it how to get the styles you want.
> 
> In LyX go to Document->Settings. Do not apply the class option
> 'authoryear' you mentioned. Go to 'Bibliography' and select 'Natbib'
> and 'Natbib-style: Author-Year". This loads natbib package
> automatically. Click OK or Apply.

done

> 
> In the document where you want to insert your reference list, do:
> Insert->List/TOC->BibTeX bibliography. Select a style file (e.g.
> plainnat) and your bibtex database (.bib) file. Click OK.
> 
> Next insert a citation into your document by Insert->Citation or
> clicking the insert citation icon. Select the citations, click 'Add'.

ok

> Look at the 'Formatting: Citation style' pulldown menu in the window.
> Here you can select the style of the citation; 'Menaker et al. (1997)'
> or '(Lamprey et al. 1997)'.

Since I have over 700 citations, I used Jabref for my bibliography and 
clicked the references via the lyx-export of jabref to the corresponding 
places of my document. If I use \setcitestyle{aysep={}} instead of your 
proposed \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}, and if I put () around the 
citation, I get what I need. But what about eg: 
(Praschak-Rieder and Willeit 2012)
and in case of three authors and more 
(Crosthwait et al. 1997)?
> 
> By default you will get [ ] limiters, but you need ( ) instead.
> Write in your document preamble (Document->Settings->LaTeX Preamble):
> 
> \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}

> 
> The aysep={} defines the separator between author and name in the
> citations.
> 
> Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
> You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
> You can also try the different style files which come with latex
> installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
> Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
> or bib-it. See this message:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html
> 
> I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.
> 
> bcsikos

will try your style, thanks a lot

Wolfgang

Re: Citation and reference style

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 13:34:33 schrieb Csikos Bela:

snip
> Now you have to adjust the references style according to your needs.
> You can try to find a .bst style file on the net and use it.
> You can also try the different style files which come with latex
> installations (plainnat, authordate, harvard etc.).
> Or you can make your own customized style by using custom-bib
> or bib-it. See this message:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg96191.html
> 
> I attach a .bst file (authdate.bst) that might fit your needs.
> 
> bcsikos

Where in the .lyx file (or elsewhere) would I place the authdate.bst file you 
kindly supplied?
Under layouts? Which is empty so far.

Wolfgang

Re: Texlive2013 and LyX

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:20:42 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 12:14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> > Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 11:36:59 schrieb Guenter Milde:
> > > On 2013-08-22, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --]
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > How do I make lyx aware of a new texlive2013 folder in my home?
> > > 
> > > By making TeX aware of it and reconfiguring, I suppose.
> > 
> > Thanks, Günter,
> > 
> > but where and how?
> > 
> > Wolfgang
> 
> using perl install -tl in the install folder?
> 
> Wolfgang

 
I get with which tex 
/mnt/sda/home/wolfgang/texlive/2012/bin/i386-linux/tex

although I did perl install and texhash and made a file  zzz-texlive.sh in 
/etc/profile.d/ 
providing the paths

Any idea what I did wrong?

Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following:
 LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995.

That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back
and put on the page posted in my previous mail.

BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre 0.7 source code
or announcement messages?

Not that I can find at the moment.  I can look on an older computer 
tonight (but it probably isn't old enough).  Of course, the 
announcements that were posted to usenet might still be findable.


I'll let you know if I find anything.

--

David L. Johnson

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,
and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove
mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [1 Corinth. 13:2]

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson  wrote:

at one time, and used Motif widgets).  It was originally called "LyriX",
but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name.


According to Matthias: "The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX
came from David Johnson."

Was it so? :)




If Matthais says so.  I remember the discussion --- between the two of 
us at the time, as I recall.  I did point out that the extension was 
already ".lyx".  He came up with the original name somehow wanting to 
link in a musical reference, which I suggested would also apply to LyX.


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
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Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200
Wolfgang Engelmann  wrote:

> Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
> > 
> >  wrote:
> > > by the way, in Tübingen, my home town
> > 
> > Cool! :)
> > 
> > Scott
> 
> More to Matthias Ettrich:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich
> 
> Wolfgang

I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My
business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake.
Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact Qt built apps seem easier to
configure, from my point of view, than Gtk built apps.

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?


Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: Citation and reference style

[Csikos Bela]

>So I select under tools>output>latex> Bibliography Processor > bibtex
>(or custom? or bibtex8?)

It seems you are using an older lyx version. It should work with it, still I 
suggest
upgrading lyx to version 2.x.

Set bibliography processor to bibtex. bibtex8 might work as well, I never tried 
it.
If you select bibtex, make sure those fields in the bib database file that will 
be in
the output do have only ASCII or latin-1 encoded characters. Special characters
should be replaced by latex commands (eg. ö is \"{o} etc.).

>Since I have over 700 citations, I used Jabref for my bibliography and
>clicked the references via the lyx-export of jabref to the corresponding
>places of my document. If I use \setcitestyle{aysep={}} instead of your
>proposed \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}}, and if I put () around the
>citation, I get what I need.

Do not add manually '(' and ')' around citations. The opening and closing
braces (rounded, square, or other) are part of the citation.
And it is better to add the citations within lyx.

I don't know if jabref can handle the two different types of citations:
 ' and 'text (Author year) text'. Can it make a
difference? If you insert the citations within lyx you can select which
type you want. If you look at the source you can see that the latex
command for the two types are different, \citet and \citep.

Also, if you have several citations in a group, lyx can handle it.
Can jabref handle that?

Unfortunately you have to go through all the citations and adjust them
manually. Or you can work on the .lyx source file directly using a text
editor and replacing all cite* command with citep. (Make a backup
of the original file before editing!) After this open your edited file
in lyx, find the few (I suppose) occasions of 'text Author (year) text'
type citations and adjust them manually.

The  \setcitestyle{round,aysep={}} and  \setcitestyle{aysep={}}
commands in the preamble have the same effect, as round is the
default option in case of author-year citation. Removing or adding it
does not make any difference.

>But what about eg: (Praschak-Rieder and Willeit 2012) and in case
>of three authors and more (Crosthwait et al. 1997)?

I don't understand what your question is.
Unfortunately latex handles citations in goups. One group is all
the citations selected and added at the same time. All these citations
will be between the same pair of parentheses. If you add neighboring
citations separately, they will be within different parentheses pairs.

The source also shows the difference. For example.

3 citations in one group:

\citep{citation1,citation2,citaton3}

The output will be:

(author1 year1, author2 year2, author3 year3)

However if you add them separately, like this:

\citep{citation1} \citep{citation2} \cite{citaton3}

the output will be:

(author1 year1) (author2 year2) (author3 year3)

You can adjust the opening and closing braces and the seperators
between authors etc using \setcitestyle.

Read the natbib manual (available at CTAN) section 2.9 Selecting
citation punctuation.

>Where in the .lyx file (or elsewhere) would I place the authdate.bst
>file you kindly supplied?

You can put it anywhere you want, but the best place is the directory
where your .lyx file is. You select the bst file by clicking 'BibTeX Generated
Bibliography' and browse for it.

If you still have questions don't hesitate to ask, but be specific, please.

bcsikos

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:19:04 + (UTC)
Bieniasz  wrote:

> Paul A. Rubin  MSU.edu> writes:
> 
>  
> > Definition environment?
> Sorry, I don't grasp.
> Leslaw 

I don't grasp either. Perhaps he meant the Description environment,
but that doesn't bring you much closer to your desired alignment than
anything else.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit :

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?


This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we 
won in the end :)


JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com]

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  wrote:

> Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit :
> > In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app,
> > and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?
> 
> This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we 
> won in the end :)
> 
> JMarc

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you,
THANK YOU for winning that battle!

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Paul A . Rubin]

Steve Litt  troubleshooters.com> writes:

>
> I don't grasp either. Perhaps he meant the Description environment,
> but that doesn't bring you much closer to your desired alignment than
> anything else.
> 

Yes, sorry, I did mean Description (the analogous environment in HTML is
definition). I'm not near a copy of LyX at the moment, but doesn't
Description set the space between first word and descriptive text so that
left borders of consecutive descriptions align?

Another option wood be to use a table, but that introduces additional space.

Paul

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Csikos Bela]

Bieniasz  írta:

>Hello,
>
>I am using the Springer svmono class under LyX, to write a monograph.
>The class has a template for "acronyms", which allows authors to make
>explanations in the following way:
>
>XXX  {blablabla}
>  {blablablabla}
>ZZ  {blabla}
>
>This means, that an acronym to be explained is followed
>by an explanation in braces. The problem seems to be that the
>explanations are not aligned to any vertical line, but occur in
>various places, depending on the length of the explained symbol.
>This looks rather ugly (as is shown above). 
>
>My question is: can one do anything to force the alignment of
>all left braces at the same distance from the left margin?
>
>I would like to have something like in following list:
>
>XXX   {blablabla}
>  {blablablabla}
>ZZ{blabla}
>
>  Leslaw
>

Hello:

I don't know about the class you mention, but lyx has a 'Labeling'
environment in article (possibly other) class. It does what you
described.

bcsikos

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[David L. Johnson]

On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:

Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My
business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake.
Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact Qt built apps seem easier to
configure, from my point of view, than Gtk built apps.

In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and
if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented?
Well, Matthais, as you know, started KDE, so this gets to be a delicate 
discussion.  IIRC, at that time LyX depended on the Xforms widgets 
(which was a step up from the original Motif in terms of programming, if 
not appearance).  Matthias did port LyX to the KDE project, as klyx, but 
that died out when lyx went with Qt.  KDE does still seem to be alive.


But LyX has now grown beyond the linux/unix base, and so these 
widget-set/desktop-environment distinctions are no longer important.


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Re: a problem with formatting acronyms in svmono class

[Paul Rubin]

Just checked, and Description does not justify the left edges of the
description texts the way I thought it did. Sorry for the noise. There's a
solution to a related question at
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/46458/how-to-align-description-item-labels-on-the-right
that might be adapted to this purpose.

Paul

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Jerry]

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham  wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700
> Jerry  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham  wrote:
>> 
>>> My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is
>>> to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into
>>> LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.
>> 
>> How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreOffice? When I try
>> it, I see only raw text; it is not rendered. I let the file dialog
>> display all files and assumed that the .xhtml file extension would
>> tell LO what to do but obviously this did not happen.
>> 
> Jerry,
> 
> One of the inevitable problems. Try changing the .xhtml file extension
> to .html. I think you can also delve into the advanced settings of
> LibreOffice to tell it to treat .xhtml files as HTML.
> 
> Les

Les, thanks for that tip, but it didn't change anything--still raw text, either 
with a document with a few equations (and thus MathML in the XHTML file) or 
just a simple file containing only the word "Hello".

FWIW, when I do open the (x)html file, I get a dialog asking for Character set 
(default = UTF-8), Default fonts (default = Times New Roman), Language (default 
= English (US)) and Paragraph break (default = LF). I accepted all the 
defaults. So it looks at that point like something is about to happen, but then 
I see only raw text. 

I also looked at Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> HTML Compatibility but didn't 
see anything relevant.

Jerry

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

[Alan L Tyree]

On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote:

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham  wrote:


On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700
Jerry  wrote:


On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham  wrote:


My general approach to  getting a LyX document into Word format is
to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into
LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format.

How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreOffice? When I try
it, I see only raw text; it is not rendered. I let the file dialog
display all files and assumed that the .xhtml file extension would
tell LO what to do but obviously this did not happen.


Jerry,

One of the inevitable problems. Try changing the .xhtml file extension
to .html. I think you can also delve into the advanced settings of
LibreOffice to tell it to treat .xhtml files as HTML.

Les

Les, thanks for that tip, but it didn't change anything--still raw text, either with a 
document with a few equations (and thus MathML in the XHTML file) or just a simple file 
containing only the word "Hello".

FWIW, when I do open the (x)html file, I get a dialog asking for Character set 
(default = UTF-8), Default fonts (default = Times New Roman), Language (default 
= English (US)) and Paragraph break (default = LF). I accepted all the 
defaults. So it looks at that point like something is about to happen, but then 
I see only raw text.

I also looked at Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> HTML Compatibility but didn't 
see anything relevant.

Jerry
Open the HTML file in a text editor and remove the first line, ie, version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>


It should then open in LibreOffice.

Cheers,
Alan

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