LyX presentation editing-

2008-07-01 Thread Ed Gatzke


LyX does fairly well editing traditional article / book type documents, 
but I think it could be improved for presentations using beamer or 
powerdot.  Maybe these things can be done currently from LyX:


Single frame view.  Now LyX continuously puts the text in slide after 
slide.  When I hit PgDn I want to see the next slide with the title at 
the top and just the stuff for that slide, not the next.


Slide sorter view.  You often need to easily cut and paste sections of a 
talk or move slides around.  Seeing all your slides rendered at 33% or 
50% size where you can drag them around would be great.  Currently, you 
have to be very careful to cut and past w whole slide due to the way LyX 
handles sections (losing frame type, changing text to some other type, etc)


Animation editor.  Beamer and powerdot require a goodly amount of ERT or 
hacks to get animations.  There has to be a better way than ERT for 
this.  Maybe just a special section type like Itemize (Animate)?


Additional graphics overlay.  Maybe you want to add a circle around 
something important.  Or have text appear and an arrow to highlight 
something.  You can do this with lots of ERT, but presentations for most 
people are not a coding exercise. 

Outline / section editing.  The sectioning is great for beamer and 
powerdot to have organized presentations, but you get these odball 
section and subsection titles hanging out between frames.


I have thought about trying to hack something together that would 
emulate this.  Maybe crop the lyx file into individual slides per page 
and put each one in a tab, export each slide and convert to jpg for a 
slide sorter window, use that jpg for some simple graphics editor to 
help get code for drawing simple shapes or text or arrows at arbitrary 
positions? 


Am I nuts?

I have used LyX for years and finally I think am starting to move to 
using it for presentations.  I have templates for both beamer and 
powerdot working (but not eps movie animations, waiting on a animate 
fix).  I can deal with limitations, but some of these things would make 
it a better package. 

Or maybe I should try out OO Impress?  I am moving away from ppt since 
they still can't support eps properly and the new interface is 
horrendous.  All I really need is vector graphics, decent equations, 
simple animations and a decent editor.




--
Ed Gatzke, Associate Professor 
Department of Chemical Engineering, University of South Carolina

Swearingen Engineering Center, Office 3C19, Columbia, SC 29208
NOTE: On sabbatical in Germany until July, 2009



LyX presentation editing-

2008-07-01 Thread Ed Gatzke


LyX does fairly well editing traditional article / book type documents, 
but I think it could be improved for presentations using beamer or 
powerdot.  Maybe these things can be done currently from LyX:


Single frame view.  Now LyX continuously puts the text in slide after 
slide.  When I hit PgDn I want to see the next slide with the title at 
the top and just the stuff for that slide, not the next.


Slide sorter view.  You often need to easily cut and paste sections of a 
talk or move slides around.  Seeing all your slides rendered at 33% or 
50% size where you can drag them around would be great.  Currently, you 
have to be very careful to cut and past w whole slide due to the way LyX 
handles sections (losing frame type, changing text to some other type, etc)


Animation editor.  Beamer and powerdot require a goodly amount of ERT or 
hacks to get animations.  There has to be a better way than ERT for 
this.  Maybe just a special section type like Itemize (Animate)?


Additional graphics overlay.  Maybe you want to add a circle around 
something important.  Or have text appear and an arrow to highlight 
something.  You can do this with lots of ERT, but presentations for most 
people are not a coding exercise. 

Outline / section editing.  The sectioning is great for beamer and 
powerdot to have organized presentations, but you get these odball 
section and subsection titles hanging out between frames.


I have thought about trying to hack something together that would 
emulate this.  Maybe crop the lyx file into individual slides per page 
and put each one in a tab, export each slide and convert to jpg for a 
slide sorter window, use that jpg for some simple graphics editor to 
help get code for drawing simple shapes or text or arrows at arbitrary 
positions? 


Am I nuts?

I have used LyX for years and finally I think am starting to move to 
using it for presentations.  I have templates for both beamer and 
powerdot working (but not eps movie animations, waiting on a animate 
fix).  I can deal with limitations, but some of these things would make 
it a better package. 

Or maybe I should try out OO Impress?  I am moving away from ppt since 
they still can't support eps properly and the new interface is 
horrendous.  All I really need is vector graphics, decent equations, 
simple animations and a decent editor.




--
Ed Gatzke, Associate Professor 
Department of Chemical Engineering, University of South Carolina

Swearingen Engineering Center, Office 3C19, Columbia, SC 29208
NOTE: On sabbatical in Germany until July, 2009



LyX presentation editing-

2008-07-01 Thread Ed Gatzke


LyX does fairly well editing traditional article / book type documents, 
but I think it could be improved for presentations using beamer or 
powerdot.  Maybe these things can be done currently from LyX:


Single frame view.  Now LyX continuously puts the text in slide after 
slide.  When I hit PgDn I want to see the next slide with the title at 
the top and just the stuff for that slide, not the next.


Slide sorter view.  You often need to easily cut and paste sections of a 
talk or move slides around.  Seeing all your slides rendered at 33% or 
50% size where you can drag them around would be great.  Currently, you 
have to be very careful to cut and past w whole slide due to the way LyX 
handles sections (losing frame type, changing text to some other type, etc)


Animation editor.  Beamer and powerdot require a goodly amount of ERT or 
hacks to get animations.  There has to be a better way than ERT for 
this.  Maybe just a special section type like "Itemize (Animate)"?


Additional graphics overlay.  Maybe you want to add a circle around 
something important.  Or have text appear and an arrow to highlight 
something.  You can do this with lots of ERT, but presentations for most 
people are not a coding exercise. 

Outline / section editing.  The sectioning is great for beamer and 
powerdot to have organized presentations, but you get these odball 
section and subsection titles hanging out between frames.


I have thought about trying to hack something together that would 
emulate this.  Maybe crop the lyx file into individual slides per page 
and put each one in a tab, export each slide and convert to jpg for a 
slide sorter window, use that jpg for some simple graphics editor to 
help get code for drawing simple shapes or text or arrows at arbitrary 
positions? 


Am I nuts?

I have used LyX for years and finally I think am starting to move to 
using it for presentations.  I have templates for both beamer and 
powerdot working (but not eps movie animations, waiting on a animate 
fix).  I can deal with limitations, but some of these things would make 
it a better package. 

Or maybe I should try out OO Impress?  I am moving away from ppt since 
they still can't support eps properly and the new interface is 
horrendous.  All I really need is vector graphics, decent equations, 
simple animations and a decent editor.




--
Ed Gatzke, Associate Professor 
Department of Chemical Engineering, University of South Carolina

Swearingen Engineering Center, Office 3C19, Columbia, SC 29208
NOTE: On sabbatical in Germany until July, 2009



Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Ed Gatzke

Terrrifc!  Thanks to all the developers.  Easy access on windows will be huge.

Anybody report success installing over a 1.4.2 system on Windows?  Any known
issues?

I assume you should back up your Documents and Setting/userid/Application
Data/LyX1.4.x directory, just to make sure...

Ed





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Ed Gatzke

Terrrifc!  Thanks to all the developers.  Easy access on windows will be huge.

Anybody report success installing over a 1.4.2 system on Windows?  Any known
issues?

I assume you should back up your Documents and Setting/userid/Application
Data/LyX1.4.x directory, just to make sure...

Ed





Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.4.3 is relelased

2006-09-21 Thread Ed Gatzke

Terrrifc!  Thanks to all the developers.  Easy access on windows will be huge.

Anybody report success installing over a 1.4.2 system on Windows?  Any known
issues?

I assume you should back up your "Documents and Setting/userid/Application
Data/LyX1.4.x directory, just to make sure...

Ed





Re: Anyone with experience in pdf2rtf conversion?

2006-09-01 Thread Ed Gatzke
Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 I am still so disappointed by lyx-word conversion so I was looking at
 pdf2rtf converters. There appear to be several commercial ones and some open
 source ones.
 


Have you tried tex2word?  It works great for math and citations and labels, not 
so much for figures and tables.

It costs like $40 and you need mathtype, but it has saved me hours and hours.

Ed








Re: Anyone with experience in pdf2rtf conversion?

2006-09-01 Thread Ed Gatzke
Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 I am still so disappointed by lyx-word conversion so I was looking at
 pdf2rtf converters. There appear to be several commercial ones and some open
 source ones.
 


Have you tried tex2word?  It works great for math and citations and labels, not 
so much for figures and tables.

It costs like $40 and you need mathtype, but it has saved me hours and hours.

Ed








Re: Anyone with experience in pdf2rtf conversion?

2006-09-01 Thread Ed Gatzke
Martin A. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> I am still so disappointed by lyx->word conversion so I was looking at
> pdf2rtf converters. There appear to be several commercial ones and some open
> source ones.
> 


Have you tried tex2word?  It works great for math and citations and labels, not 
so much for figures and tables.

It costs like $40 and you need mathtype, but it has saved me hours and hours.

Ed








Re: Continuous numbering of list items

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Gatzke
 is there any possibilities to prevent lyx from resetting the counter of
 enumerated lists when several enumerated lists appear in different
 sections? What I am looking for is the possibility to have a
 continuously numerated list separated with section titles, i.e.:
 
 a) Section a
 1. List item #1
 2. List item #2
 3. List item #3
 b) Section b
 4. List item #4
 5. List item #5
 c) Section c
 6. List item #6
 7. List item #7
 8. List item #8
 ...
 

If you just have a few items, you can use ERT LaTeX commands.

Put the following in ERT right after each enumeration and it will 
overwrite the current number and keep the correct formatting:   [4.]

No curly braces {}, just square brackets and the number in ERT.

Ed




Re: Wish, suggestion about templates

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Gatzke

 Lyx preferences allow to modify the default templates directory.
 Problem: I use 2 templates directories (zs I guess some people)
 1 system wide (/usr/share/lyx/templates/)

The whole template thing is a problem for me.  I wish lyx had a nice way of
adding class files and templates.  I know latex has to do some magic for cls
files, but it can be a pain, especially if you have multiple latex installs (as
may be common on an XP box running lyx bundle and cygwin).  

A wizard or something to help with the overall template cls install may be nice,
something more user friendly than the help files...






Re: Continuous numbering of list items

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Gatzke
 is there any possibilities to prevent lyx from resetting the counter of
 enumerated lists when several enumerated lists appear in different
 sections? What I am looking for is the possibility to have a
 continuously numerated list separated with section titles, i.e.:
 
 a) Section a
 1. List item #1
 2. List item #2
 3. List item #3
 b) Section b
 4. List item #4
 5. List item #5
 c) Section c
 6. List item #6
 7. List item #7
 8. List item #8
 ...
 

If you just have a few items, you can use ERT LaTeX commands.

Put the following in ERT right after each enumeration and it will 
overwrite the current number and keep the correct formatting:   [4.]

No curly braces {}, just square brackets and the number in ERT.

Ed




Re: Wish, suggestion about templates

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Gatzke

 Lyx preferences allow to modify the default templates directory.
 Problem: I use 2 templates directories (zs I guess some people)
 1 system wide (/usr/share/lyx/templates/)

The whole template thing is a problem for me.  I wish lyx had a nice way of
adding class files and templates.  I know latex has to do some magic for cls
files, but it can be a pain, especially if you have multiple latex installs (as
may be common on an XP box running lyx bundle and cygwin).  

A wizard or something to help with the overall template cls install may be nice,
something more user friendly than the help files...






Re: Continuous numbering of list items

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Gatzke
> is there any possibilities to prevent lyx from resetting the counter of
> enumerated lists when several enumerated lists appear in different
> sections? What I am looking for is the possibility to have a
> continuously numerated list separated with section titles, i.e.:
> 
> a) Section a
> 1. List item #1
> 2. List item #2
> 3. List item #3
> b) Section b
> 4. List item #4
> 5. List item #5
> c) Section c
> 6. List item #6
> 7. List item #7
> 8. List item #8
> ...
> 

If you just have a few items, you can use ERT LaTeX commands.

Put the following in ERT right after each enumeration and it will 
overwrite the current number and keep the correct formatting:   [4.]

No curly braces {}, just square brackets and the number in ERT.

Ed




Re: Wish, suggestion about templates

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Gatzke

> Lyx preferences allow to modify the default templates directory.
> Problem: I use 2 templates directories (zs I guess some people)
> 1 system wide (/usr/share/lyx/templates/)

The whole template thing is a problem for me.  I wish lyx had a nice way of
adding class files and templates.  I know latex has to do some magic for cls
files, but it can be a pain, especially if you have multiple latex installs (as
may be common on an XP box running lyx bundle and cygwin).  

A wizard or something to help with the overall template cls install may be nice,
something more user friendly than the help files...






Re: Overwrite existing files

2006-08-02 Thread Ed Gatzke

 Can you click the Show Desktop icon (or type Win-D, where Win is the 
 Windows key) to minimize everything, then click the LyX button in the 
 task bar and get to the dialog?
 


I can just as easily  Alt-Tab to the Lyx window or click on the taskbar.

It is an odd behavior to lose the error dialog under a window.

It gets buried because I tell Lyx to export pdf then switch to another
application.  The error dialog takes a while to pop up and ends up under 
the other application.


I tried putting something like
rm -f $$o; ps2pdf $$i $$o
in my lyxrc.defaults for ps conversion to pdf.  This does not get executed 
like a normal bash command for me so it does not act like two separate 
commands.

I tried writing a single shell script that would remove the pdf before 
calling ps2pdf but I now realize lyx is calling stuff in a sandbox /tmp 
directory and then movinig the file to the working directory.  I see my 
script executing, but the pdf in the working directory never gets erased 
and I get the silly error dialog.






Re: Overwrite existing files

2006-08-02 Thread Ed Gatzke

 Can you click the Show Desktop icon (or type Win-D, where Win is the 
 Windows key) to minimize everything, then click the LyX button in the 
 task bar and get to the dialog?
 


I can just as easily  Alt-Tab to the Lyx window or click on the taskbar.

It is an odd behavior to lose the error dialog under a window.

It gets buried because I tell Lyx to export pdf then switch to another
application.  The error dialog takes a while to pop up and ends up under 
the other application.


I tried putting something like
rm -f $$o; ps2pdf $$i $$o
in my lyxrc.defaults for ps conversion to pdf.  This does not get executed 
like a normal bash command for me so it does not act like two separate 
commands.

I tried writing a single shell script that would remove the pdf before 
calling ps2pdf but I now realize lyx is calling stuff in a sandbox /tmp 
directory and then movinig the file to the working directory.  I see my 
script executing, but the pdf in the working directory never gets erased 
and I get the silly error dialog.






Re: Overwrite existing files

2006-08-02 Thread Ed Gatzke

> Can you click the "Show Desktop" icon (or type Win-D, where Win is the 
> Windows key) to minimize everything, then click the LyX button in the 
> task bar and get to the dialog?
> 


I can just as easily  Alt-Tab to the Lyx window or click on the taskbar.

It is an odd behavior to lose the error dialog under a window.

It gets buried because I tell Lyx to export pdf then switch to another
application.  The error dialog takes a while to pop up and ends up under 
the other application.


I tried putting something like
"rm -f $$o; ps2pdf $$i $$o"
in my lyxrc.defaults for ps conversion to pdf.  This does not get executed 
like a normal bash command for me so it does not act like two separate 
commands.

I tried writing a single shell script that would remove the pdf before 
calling ps2pdf but I now realize lyx is calling stuff in a sandbox /tmp 
directory and then movinig the file to the working directory.  I see my 
script executing, but the pdf in the working directory never gets erased 
and I get the silly error dialog.






Overwrite existing files

2006-08-01 Thread Ed Gatzke

Is there any way to turn off the dialog for export errors, for The file already
exists, Overwrite?

I select export and switch to another application, a few second later the error
dialog get buried (on XP), and I can't even click the LyX window to get back to
the application (you have to click the dialog or click in explorer.)

Thanks!

Ed






Overwrite existing files

2006-08-01 Thread Ed Gatzke

Is there any way to turn off the dialog for export errors, for The file already
exists, Overwrite?

I select export and switch to another application, a few second later the error
dialog get buried (on XP), and I can't even click the LyX window to get back to
the application (you have to click the dialog or click in explorer.)

Thanks!

Ed






Overwrite existing files

2006-08-01 Thread Ed Gatzke

Is there any way to turn off the dialog for export errors, for "The file already
exists, Overwrite?"

I select export and switch to another application, a few second later the error
dialog get buried (on XP), and I can't even click the LyX window to get back to
the application (you have to click the dialog or click in explorer.)

Thanks!

Ed






More class files by default

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have run into problems adding extra class files into my latex installation and
getting them to work with lyx.  (I know, install, run something to reconfigure
latex, reconfigure lyx, but it is never smooth sailing for me)

It may be nice to have a boatload installed by default or as an option.

Some to consider include things like prosper (for pretty powerpoint slides) or
some widely used professional styles (IEEE, IFAC, others).

1.4.2 already has .layout files for a lot of things that apparently did not get
installed in the latex default package (or maybe 1.42 added more layouts that
were not included in the 1.4.1 latex I am using).  Why not have a install option
for extended latex.  

I know originally they limited the extra stuff in LaTeX distributions, but the
way HD space and bandwidth is now days, how much does an extra few MB cost 
us... 



Re: More class files by default

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Gatzke
 You've probably done this already, but when you add a style or layout or 
 anything to the  /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ tree, run  the texhash 
 program.
 

The couple of times I have done this, my latex'ing time quadrupled for some
strange reason, so the performance hit was frustrating.  One time dvis and 
fonts got fouled up as well.

There are like three different ways listed to get classes added to latex,
one involves setting a bunch of environment vars as well.   There are two
or three programs that can fix your paths when you make mods, so it is a 
bit screwy having option.

There must be a crapload of cls files for journals and theses out there, 
but I can't see a large portion of them adding up to more than 5 - 10 MB,
especially if you zip the text files initially.  Give the user an option 
to pick the ones they want to install early on, then download them from 
a contrib site if you want.  

It is much easier to have the well-written installer handle it as opposed
to idiot users like me mucking it all up later...




More class files by default

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have run into problems adding extra class files into my latex installation and
getting them to work with lyx.  (I know, install, run something to reconfigure
latex, reconfigure lyx, but it is never smooth sailing for me)

It may be nice to have a boatload installed by default or as an option.

Some to consider include things like prosper (for pretty powerpoint slides) or
some widely used professional styles (IEEE, IFAC, others).

1.4.2 already has .layout files for a lot of things that apparently did not get
installed in the latex default package (or maybe 1.42 added more layouts that
were not included in the 1.4.1 latex I am using).  Why not have a install option
for extended latex.  

I know originally they limited the extra stuff in LaTeX distributions, but the
way HD space and bandwidth is now days, how much does an extra few MB cost 
us... 



Re: More class files by default

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Gatzke
 You've probably done this already, but when you add a style or layout or 
 anything to the  /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ tree, run  the texhash 
 program.
 

The couple of times I have done this, my latex'ing time quadrupled for some
strange reason, so the performance hit was frustrating.  One time dvis and 
fonts got fouled up as well.

There are like three different ways listed to get classes added to latex,
one involves setting a bunch of environment vars as well.   There are two
or three programs that can fix your paths when you make mods, so it is a 
bit screwy having option.

There must be a crapload of cls files for journals and theses out there, 
but I can't see a large portion of them adding up to more than 5 - 10 MB,
especially if you zip the text files initially.  Give the user an option 
to pick the ones they want to install early on, then download them from 
a contrib site if you want.  

It is much easier to have the well-written installer handle it as opposed
to idiot users like me mucking it all up later...




More class files by default

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have run into problems adding extra class files into my latex installation and
getting them to work with lyx.  (I know, install, run something to reconfigure
latex, reconfigure lyx, but it is never smooth sailing for me)

It may be nice to have a boatload installed by default or as an option.

Some to consider include things like prosper (for pretty powerpoint slides) or
some widely used professional styles (IEEE, IFAC, others).

1.4.2 already has .layout files for a lot of things that apparently did not get
installed in the latex default package (or maybe 1.42 added more layouts that
were not included in the 1.4.1 latex I am using).  Why not have a install option
for "extended latex".  

I know originally they limited the extra stuff in LaTeX distributions, but the
way HD space and bandwidth is now days, how much does an extra few MB cost 
us... 



Re: More class files by default

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Gatzke
> You've probably done this already, but when you add a style or layout or 
> anything to the  /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ tree, run  the texhash 
> program.
> 

The couple of times I have done this, my latex'ing time quadrupled for some
strange reason, so the performance hit was frustrating.  One time dvis and 
fonts got fouled up as well.

There are like three different ways listed to get classes added to latex,
one involves setting a bunch of environment vars as well.   There are two
or three programs that can fix your paths when you make mods, so it is a 
bit screwy having option.

There must be a crapload of cls files for journals and theses out there, 
but I can't see a large portion of them adding up to more than 5 - 10 MB,
especially if you zip the text files initially.  Give the user an option 
to pick the ones they want to install early on, then download them from 
a contrib site if you want.  

It is much easier to have the well-written installer handle it as opposed
to idiot users like me mucking it all up later...




Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-23 Thread Ed Gatzke
   I figured that would be a configurable parameter since you can
   modify anything else in lyx...
 
  No, it is not. 10 lines is simply the qt default for combo boxes. Do
 
 Since QComboBox is not resizable (with the mouse) you'd have to subclass 
 it. I don't think it's worth the effort. If anything then I'd make the 
 setting changeable by editting some config file. (Changing the number 

That sounds like the best way.  Put some obscure parameter deep in a ui file
somewhere, and those of us that care will use it.

UI does not need to be configurable on the fly.  LyX will probably never replace
Word, so LyX will stay as a great front end for technical stuff, so the users
will generally be savvy enough to modify things in the ui config files.

Thanks!








Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-23 Thread Ed Gatzke
   I figured that would be a configurable parameter since you can
   modify anything else in lyx...
 
  No, it is not. 10 lines is simply the qt default for combo boxes. Do
 
 Since QComboBox is not resizable (with the mouse) you'd have to subclass 
 it. I don't think it's worth the effort. If anything then I'd make the 
 setting changeable by editting some config file. (Changing the number 

That sounds like the best way.  Put some obscure parameter deep in a ui file
somewhere, and those of us that care will use it.

UI does not need to be configurable on the fly.  LyX will probably never replace
Word, so LyX will stay as a great front end for technical stuff, so the users
will generally be savvy enough to modify things in the ui config files.

Thanks!








Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-23 Thread Ed Gatzke
> > > I figured that would be a configurable parameter since you can
> > > modify anything else in lyx...
> >
> > No, it is not. 10 lines is simply the qt default for combo boxes. Do
> 
> Since QComboBox is not resizable (with the mouse) you'd have to subclass 
> it. I don't think it's worth the effort. If anything then I'd make the 
> setting changeable by editting some config file. (Changing the number 

That sounds like the best way.  Put some obscure parameter deep in a ui file
somewhere, and those of us that care will use it.

UI does not need to be configurable on the fly.  LyX will probably never replace
Word, so LyX will stay as a great front end for technical stuff, so the users
will generally be savvy enough to modify things in the ui config files.

Thanks!








Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-21 Thread Ed Gatzke
 how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?
 guess it is more convinent.
 
 Michael


Here is a question along the same lines:  How can I modify the number 
of environments shown by default?

By default, it shows 10 different types and you have to scroll up or down.

Ideally, I would like all the environments shown with the current 
one highlighted.

This has always bugged me, as I find myself scrolling up and down 
for some environments.

Thanks!

Ed






Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-21 Thread Ed Gatzke
  
  Note that M-p 1,2,3,4,5 etc are already assigned to chapter, section,
  subsection etc.
  
  Bo
  
 
 Or M-p space to drop the list down, then repeatedly hit the first 
 letter of the environment you want (for instance, 'A' to get author) 
 until you get it.
 
 /Paul
 
 

The keyboard shortcuts are still nice, but some people still use a mouse 
on occasion.  

The limited drop down is similar to those context sensitve menus on MS 
Office where you have to navigate to expand a menu.  

Click-Click is better than Click-scroll-click.

People have plenty of screen real estate, with 1600x1200 and bigger screens 
coming out.  Limiting to ten selections is silly.

I figured that would be a configurable parameter since you can modify anything
else in lyx...

Thanks again!




Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-21 Thread Ed Gatzke
 how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?
 guess it is more convinent.
 
 Michael


Here is a question along the same lines:  How can I modify the number 
of environments shown by default?

By default, it shows 10 different types and you have to scroll up or down.

Ideally, I would like all the environments shown with the current 
one highlighted.

This has always bugged me, as I find myself scrolling up and down 
for some environments.

Thanks!

Ed






Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-21 Thread Ed Gatzke
  
  Note that M-p 1,2,3,4,5 etc are already assigned to chapter, section,
  subsection etc.
  
  Bo
  
 
 Or M-p space to drop the list down, then repeatedly hit the first 
 letter of the environment you want (for instance, 'A' to get author) 
 until you get it.
 
 /Paul
 
 

The keyboard shortcuts are still nice, but some people still use a mouse 
on occasion.  

The limited drop down is similar to those context sensitve menus on MS 
Office where you have to navigate to expand a menu.  

Click-Click is better than Click-scroll-click.

People have plenty of screen real estate, with 1600x1200 and bigger screens 
coming out.  Limiting to ten selections is silly.

I figured that would be a configurable parameter since you can modify anything
else in lyx...

Thanks again!




Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-21 Thread Ed Gatzke
> how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?
> guess it is more convinent.
> 
> Michael


Here is a question along the same lines:  How can I modify the number 
of environments shown by default?

By default, it shows 10 different types and you have to scroll up or down.

Ideally, I would like all the environments shown with the current 
one highlighted.

This has always bugged me, as I find myself scrolling up and down 
for some environments.

Thanks!

Ed






Re: how to sort the environments in the upper left corner pull down menu?

2006-07-21 Thread Ed Gatzke
> > 
> > Note that M-p 1,2,3,4,5 etc are already assigned to chapter, section,
> > subsection etc.
> > 
> > Bo
> > 
> 
> Or M-p  to drop the list down, then repeatedly hit the first 
> letter of the environment you want (for instance, 'A' to get author) 
> until you get it.
> 
> /Paul
> 
> 

The keyboard shortcuts are still nice, but some people still use a mouse 
on occasion.  

The limited drop down is similar to those "context sensitve" menus on MS 
Office where you have to navigate to expand a menu.  

Click-Click is better than Click-scroll-click.

People have plenty of screen real estate, with 1600x1200 and bigger screens 
coming out.  Limiting to ten selections is silly.

I figured that would be a configurable parameter since you can modify anything
else in lyx...

Thanks again!




Re: bib to bbl

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke

You may need to run the latex and bibtex commands two or three times to make
sure labels take as well.  

I usually run something like:

latex file.tex
latex file.tex
latex file.tex

bibtex file
bibtex file

!!! Make modifiation to file.tex here using file.bbl

latex file.tex
latex file.tex
latex file.tex

dvips -t letter -Ppdf -o file.ps file.dvi

ps2pdf file.ps


LyX is such a godsend, people don't know how terrible the old school ways are.






Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
 But you don't have tgif in the windows system PATH, right?
 

I copied tgif.exe to the windows/system32 directory, but that was not enough.
I also needed some dll files in there and to set my DISPLAY in XP 
to 127.0.0.1:0.0  

You need X running in the background, but that is always running for me.

I kept working until tgif fired up normally from a cmd.exe window.  

 
 
 It works perfectly for me. I can include .obj files in the graphics inset
 and they get displayed in LyX. Remember to start the X server as tgif needs
 it even for simply converting .obj files to other formats.
 
 If tgif is in your PATH, after reconfiguring you should see converters
 from TGIF to EPS, PPM, PNG and PDF in Preferences-Coverters.
 

I had trouble with the tgif png converter, but once I removed that line 
from lyxrc.defaults, it was fairly smooth sailing.  Editing and using 
obj files works great.

It might be nice to have an option to bundle everything into a single 
tar file, all your obj, eps, bib files into a single tgz file, but it 
is not much for me to do that myself when needed.


My crazy tgif file that calls lyx for equation editing in figures does not work,
but that is to be expected.  The equaiton objects need unix flavored calls like
/usr/bin/lyx and pstoepsi,  and lyx / tgif are running in a traditional shell.

Thanks!









Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke
My crazy tgif file that calls lyx for equation editing in figures does not 
work,
but that is to be expected.  The equaiton objects need unix flavored calls like
/usr/bin/lyx and pstoepsi,  and lyx / tgif are running in a traditional shell.

I straightened out some of the path problems, adding
c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin and the path to lyx.exe in my XP path.

Now lyx opens tgif just fine for editing and converting.

Tgif can be started from cmd.exe, and it will even correctly call lyx to 
write equations and convert the ps to eps for insertion back into the 
tgif file.  The commands it executes are:

xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e /usr/bin/lyx $(file_name).tex;)])
xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e /usr/bin/lyx $(file_name).tex --export ps;)])
xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e pstoepsi $(file_name).ps $(file_name).eps)])

My current problem is now that when lyx opens tgif to edit an obj, then 
tgif calls lyx to edit an equation in the figure the paths are munged and 
pstoepsi does not correctly convert the resulting eps and you get a big 
bounding box around the eps, but it is close enough for now...






Re: bib to bbl

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke

You may need to run the latex and bibtex commands two or three times to make
sure labels take as well.  

I usually run something like:

latex file.tex
latex file.tex
latex file.tex

bibtex file
bibtex file

!!! Make modifiation to file.tex here using file.bbl

latex file.tex
latex file.tex
latex file.tex

dvips -t letter -Ppdf -o file.ps file.dvi

ps2pdf file.ps


LyX is such a godsend, people don't know how terrible the old school ways are.






Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
 But you don't have tgif in the windows system PATH, right?
 

I copied tgif.exe to the windows/system32 directory, but that was not enough.
I also needed some dll files in there and to set my DISPLAY in XP 
to 127.0.0.1:0.0  

You need X running in the background, but that is always running for me.

I kept working until tgif fired up normally from a cmd.exe window.  

 
 
 It works perfectly for me. I can include .obj files in the graphics inset
 and they get displayed in LyX. Remember to start the X server as tgif needs
 it even for simply converting .obj files to other formats.
 
 If tgif is in your PATH, after reconfiguring you should see converters
 from TGIF to EPS, PPM, PNG and PDF in Preferences-Coverters.
 

I had trouble with the tgif png converter, but once I removed that line 
from lyxrc.defaults, it was fairly smooth sailing.  Editing and using 
obj files works great.

It might be nice to have an option to bundle everything into a single 
tar file, all your obj, eps, bib files into a single tgz file, but it 
is not much for me to do that myself when needed.


My crazy tgif file that calls lyx for equation editing in figures does not work,
but that is to be expected.  The equaiton objects need unix flavored calls like
/usr/bin/lyx and pstoepsi,  and lyx / tgif are running in a traditional shell.

Thanks!









Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke
My crazy tgif file that calls lyx for equation editing in figures does not 
work,
but that is to be expected.  The equaiton objects need unix flavored calls like
/usr/bin/lyx and pstoepsi,  and lyx / tgif are running in a traditional shell.

I straightened out some of the path problems, adding
c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin and the path to lyx.exe in my XP path.

Now lyx opens tgif just fine for editing and converting.

Tgif can be started from cmd.exe, and it will even correctly call lyx to 
write equations and convert the ps to eps for insertion back into the 
tgif file.  The commands it executes are:

xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e /usr/bin/lyx $(file_name).tex;)])
xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e /usr/bin/lyx $(file_name).tex --export ps;)])
xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e pstoepsi $(file_name).ps $(file_name).eps)])

My current problem is now that when lyx opens tgif to edit an obj, then 
tgif calls lyx to edit an equation in the figure the paths are munged and 
pstoepsi does not correctly convert the resulting eps and you get a big 
bounding box around the eps, but it is close enough for now...






Re: bib to bbl

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke

You may need to run the latex and bibtex commands two or three times to make
sure labels take as well.  

I usually run something like:

latex file.tex
latex file.tex
latex file.tex

bibtex file
bibtex file

!!! Make modifiation to file.tex here using file.bbl

latex file.tex
latex file.tex
latex file.tex

dvips -t letter -Ppdf -o file.ps file.dvi

ps2pdf file.ps


LyX is such a godsend, people don't know how terrible the old school ways are.






Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke
> 
> But you don't have tgif in the windows system PATH, right?
> 

I copied tgif.exe to the windows/system32 directory, but that was not enough.
I also needed some dll files in there and to set my DISPLAY in XP 
to 127.0.0.1:0.0  

You need X running in the background, but that is always running for me.

I kept working until tgif fired up normally from a cmd.exe window.  

> 
> 
> It works perfectly for me. I can include .obj files in the graphics inset
> and they get displayed in LyX. Remember to start the X server as tgif needs
> it even for simply converting .obj files to other formats.
> 
> If tgif is in your PATH, after reconfiguring you should see converters
> from TGIF to EPS, PPM, PNG and PDF in Preferences->Coverters.
> 

I had trouble with the tgif png converter, but once I removed that line 
from lyxrc.defaults, it was fairly smooth sailing.  Editing and using 
obj files works great.

It might be nice to have an option to bundle everything into a single 
tar file, all your obj, eps, bib files into a single tgz file, but it 
is not much for me to do that myself when needed.


My crazy tgif file that calls lyx for equation editing in figures does not work,
but that is to be expected.  The equaiton objects need unix flavored calls like
/usr/bin/lyx and pstoepsi,  and lyx / tgif are running in a traditional shell.

Thanks!









Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gatzke
>My crazy tgif file that calls lyx for equation editing in figures does not 
>work,
>but that is to be expected.  The equaiton objects need unix flavored calls like
>/usr/bin/lyx and pstoepsi,  and lyx / tgif are running in a traditional shell.

I straightened out some of the path problems, adding
c:\cygwin\bin;c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin and the path to lyx.exe in my XP path.

Now lyx opens tgif just fine for editing and converting.

Tgif can be started from cmd.exe, and it will even correctly call lyx to 
write equations and convert the ps to eps for insertion back into the 
tgif file.  The commands it executes are:

"xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e /usr/bin/lyx $(file_name).tex;")])
"xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e /usr/bin/lyx $(file_name).tex --export ps;")])
"xterm -geom 40x8+200+400 -e pstoepsi $(file_name).ps $(file_name).eps")])

My current problem is now that when lyx opens tgif to edit an obj, then 
tgif calls lyx to edit an equation in the figure the paths are munged and 
pstoepsi does not correctly convert the resulting eps and you get a big 
bounding box around the eps, but it is close enough for now...






Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Ed Gatzke wrote:
  Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.
  my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!
 Another thing to add to the mystery of alt-F4.

I did not see alt-F4 listed as a bug fix in the release notes, but who cares!

  My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
  instant preview files loaded.
 
 Works out of the box for me.

I wish I had a clean box to test the new installer on.  I never 
installed all the tools, it seemed to detect the current 
installs, but everything works amazingly.

  Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
  installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 
 That's slightly dated. LyX 1.4.2 (the small installer) installs them 
 automatically in the latextools folder under the LyX root folder.  Do 
 you not have them there?

It may have been a previous install problem, or some other problem.  
The preview works great now.

They also fixed some annoying navigation bugs (at least on XP) where 
you could get stuck in a view and never navigate to a new window. 

Should we post thank-yous on the dev list?  Do they read over here?  





Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have been using tgif to do vector graphics for a few years and I have been
happy with it for simple things.

I hacked their equation object code to call lyx for equation editing.  

You double click an equation image in tgif and it should open a lyx editor with
the equation in it.  You can modify the equation in lyx (and preview it in pdf
or ps) then save and close the lyx file.  Tgif should then automatically convert
the .lyx file to ps then convert the ps to eps and load it with a preview back
into tgif.  You can see your equations and edit them in a nice lyx environment!
  Example file available at:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/tgif.obj

You may need pstoepsi somewhere in your path:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/pstoepsi

I had to modify my previous version for use on XP, since I had the scripts copy
everything into /tmp but that gets horked on XP.


Also, I saw recently that lyx added native tgif support for the image converter.
 I have been using tgif forever, exporting to eps for use in lyx. My ImageMagick
/ convert does not appear to work on my new XP install for converting tgif .obj
files to .ppm, but that is ok, I am fine with the eps right now and I don't have
a 1.4.2 install on linux to try out yet.







Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
  Also, I saw recently that lyx added native tgif support for the image
  converter.
   I have been using tgif forever, exporting to eps for use in lyx. My
   ImageMagick
  / convert does not appear to work on my new XP install for converting tgif
  .obj files to .ppm, but that is ok, I am fine with the eps right now and I
  don't have a 1.4.2 install on linux to try out yet.

 The imagemagick problem was the reason to include an explicit converter.
 If you include the .obj instead of the .eps files in LyX you will be able to
 fire up tgif from within LyX (the edit button of the graphics dialog).


On my XP box, I get garbage.  Output at console from lyx:

convert.exe: unable to open image `tgif:c:/gatzke/test.obj': Invalid argument.
convert.exe: missing an image filename `ppm:c:/Documents and
Settings/gatzke/Local Settings/Temp/lyx_tmpdir2724a03164/test2724a03164.ppm'.
c:/Program Files/LyX142/Resources/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.

And when I try to convert an obj file to ppm:

convert test.obj  test.ppm
convert: unable to open module file
`/usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.0.4/modules-Q16/coders/obj.la'.
convert: missing an image filename `test.ppm'.

Maybe it is due to me not reinstalling all the peripheral software with the new
version update?






Re: interactive viewing of math symbols

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
  feature extensively. In the windows version, this doesn't work. So, in
  LyX 1.4.2, is it a feature or a bug? Any ideas or work arounds ?
 
 Strange. It works fine here. Repeat after me slowly 
 1. insert-math-whatever
 2. type \alpha followed by blank
 
 Do you see the real alpha?
 
 Bo
 
Works for me on XP.

I love the equation image preview, but the equation image is not nearly centered
when you have a numbered (labeled) equation.  

Instead of:

  math stuff
 text text
  numbered eqn  1

You get
  math stuff
 text text
 numbered eqn   1


Any ideas on how to get a little white space on the RHS?






Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke

 Are you using a native windows version of LyX? Are you using cygwin tools?
 Specifically, is your imagemagick a cygwin version?


I am using the new 1.4.2 version on Windows.  I am not sure how they compiled
it, but I assume they used cygwin.  

I am running lyx.exe from a cygwin shell (which has tgif in the path).  

Same error occurs if I use the desktop shortcut, but I don't get the error
message in the terminal:

convert.exe: unable to open image `tgif:c:/gatzke/test.obj': Invalid argument.
convert.exe: missing an image filename `ppm:c:/Documents and
Settings/gatzke/Local Settings/Temp/lyx_tmpdir2752a01764/test2752a01764.ppm'.
c:/Program Files/LyX142/Resources/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.

So it looks like it is calling the convertDefaul.sh in the new Lyx 1.4.2
/Resources/scripts directory.  That convert script appears to just call
convert.exe, not tgif.

tgif itself generates ppm etc called from my command line just fine.  tgif is
never getting called.
















Re: please consolidate the documentation

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
 agreed!
 
 one file would be so nice, because then you could search for a particular
 keyword you are looking for without having to open all the different help
 files. and since lyx/latex is so good at sectioning, it would be straight
 forward to combine them all.
 

It does not take much to convert the documentation to one lyx file.

Change the titles to Parts and copy paste the rest in.  With some minor mods
you should be good to go.  

Not to bad, easy to do.  Gotta copy preambles too... Here you go!

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/overall.lyx
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/overall.pdf


Ed





Re: please consolidate the documentation

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
  Change the titles to Parts and copy paste the rest in.
 
Use Insert-Insert File-LyX file.
 
 Rich


I think you miss out on some formatting, and you may have trouble with multiple
titles/authors and different preambles.  

To make one super document, the title of the individual files should be a 
Part.

I just tried the insert method to combine a couple of files (tutorial and user
guide) and nothing came out due to a preamble problem.

You probably could pull some latex magick with if and include, but it would not
be very clean in lyx.





Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Ed Gatzke wrote:
  Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.
  my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!
 Another thing to add to the mystery of alt-F4.

I did not see alt-F4 listed as a bug fix in the release notes, but who cares!

  My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
  instant preview files loaded.
 
 Works out of the box for me.

I wish I had a clean box to test the new installer on.  I never 
installed all the tools, it seemed to detect the current 
installs, but everything works amazingly.

  Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
  installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 
 That's slightly dated. LyX 1.4.2 (the small installer) installs them 
 automatically in the latextools folder under the LyX root folder.  Do 
 you not have them there?

It may have been a previous install problem, or some other problem.  
The preview works great now.

They also fixed some annoying navigation bugs (at least on XP) where 
you could get stuck in a view and never navigate to a new window. 

Should we post thank-yous on the dev list?  Do they read over here?  





Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have been using tgif to do vector graphics for a few years and I have been
happy with it for simple things.

I hacked their equation object code to call lyx for equation editing.  

You double click an equation image in tgif and it should open a lyx editor with
the equation in it.  You can modify the equation in lyx (and preview it in pdf
or ps) then save and close the lyx file.  Tgif should then automatically convert
the .lyx file to ps then convert the ps to eps and load it with a preview back
into tgif.  You can see your equations and edit them in a nice lyx environment!
  Example file available at:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/tgif.obj

You may need pstoepsi somewhere in your path:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/pstoepsi

I had to modify my previous version for use on XP, since I had the scripts copy
everything into /tmp but that gets horked on XP.


Also, I saw recently that lyx added native tgif support for the image converter.
 I have been using tgif forever, exporting to eps for use in lyx. My ImageMagick
/ convert does not appear to work on my new XP install for converting tgif .obj
files to .ppm, but that is ok, I am fine with the eps right now and I don't have
a 1.4.2 install on linux to try out yet.







Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
  Also, I saw recently that lyx added native tgif support for the image
  converter.
   I have been using tgif forever, exporting to eps for use in lyx. My
   ImageMagick
  / convert does not appear to work on my new XP install for converting tgif
  .obj files to .ppm, but that is ok, I am fine with the eps right now and I
  don't have a 1.4.2 install on linux to try out yet.

 The imagemagick problem was the reason to include an explicit converter.
 If you include the .obj instead of the .eps files in LyX you will be able to
 fire up tgif from within LyX (the edit button of the graphics dialog).


On my XP box, I get garbage.  Output at console from lyx:

convert.exe: unable to open image `tgif:c:/gatzke/test.obj': Invalid argument.
convert.exe: missing an image filename `ppm:c:/Documents and
Settings/gatzke/Local Settings/Temp/lyx_tmpdir2724a03164/test2724a03164.ppm'.
c:/Program Files/LyX142/Resources/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.

And when I try to convert an obj file to ppm:

convert test.obj  test.ppm
convert: unable to open module file
`/usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.0.4/modules-Q16/coders/obj.la'.
convert: missing an image filename `test.ppm'.

Maybe it is due to me not reinstalling all the peripheral software with the new
version update?






Re: interactive viewing of math symbols

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
  feature extensively. In the windows version, this doesn't work. So, in
  LyX 1.4.2, is it a feature or a bug? Any ideas or work arounds ?
 
 Strange. It works fine here. Repeat after me slowly 
 1. insert-math-whatever
 2. type \alpha followed by blank
 
 Do you see the real alpha?
 
 Bo
 
Works for me on XP.

I love the equation image preview, but the equation image is not nearly centered
when you have a numbered (labeled) equation.  

Instead of:

  math stuff
 text text
  numbered eqn  1

You get
  math stuff
 text text
 numbered eqn   1


Any ideas on how to get a little white space on the RHS?






Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke

 Are you using a native windows version of LyX? Are you using cygwin tools?
 Specifically, is your imagemagick a cygwin version?


I am using the new 1.4.2 version on Windows.  I am not sure how they compiled
it, but I assume they used cygwin.  

I am running lyx.exe from a cygwin shell (which has tgif in the path).  

Same error occurs if I use the desktop shortcut, but I don't get the error
message in the terminal:

convert.exe: unable to open image `tgif:c:/gatzke/test.obj': Invalid argument.
convert.exe: missing an image filename `ppm:c:/Documents and
Settings/gatzke/Local Settings/Temp/lyx_tmpdir2752a01764/test2752a01764.ppm'.
c:/Program Files/LyX142/Resources/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.

So it looks like it is calling the convertDefaul.sh in the new Lyx 1.4.2
/Resources/scripts directory.  That convert script appears to just call
convert.exe, not tgif.

tgif itself generates ppm etc called from my command line just fine.  tgif is
never getting called.
















Re: please consolidate the documentation

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
 agreed!
 
 one file would be so nice, because then you could search for a particular
 keyword you are looking for without having to open all the different help
 files. and since lyx/latex is so good at sectioning, it would be straight
 forward to combine them all.
 

It does not take much to convert the documentation to one lyx file.

Change the titles to Parts and copy paste the rest in.  With some minor mods
you should be good to go.  

Not to bad, easy to do.  Gotta copy preambles too... Here you go!

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/overall.lyx
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/overall.pdf


Ed





Re: please consolidate the documentation

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
  Change the titles to Parts and copy paste the rest in.
 
Use Insert-Insert File-LyX file.
 
 Rich


I think you miss out on some formatting, and you may have trouble with multiple
titles/authors and different preambles.  

To make one super document, the title of the individual files should be a 
Part.

I just tried the insert method to combine a couple of files (tutorial and user
guide) and nothing came out due to a preamble problem.

You probably could pull some latex magick with if and include, but it would not
be very clean in lyx.





Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ed Gatzke wrote:
> > Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.
> > my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!
> Another thing to add to the "mystery of alt-F4".

I did not see alt-F4 listed as a bug fix in the release notes, but who cares!

> > My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
> > instant preview files loaded.
> 
> Works out of the box for me.

I wish I had a clean box to test the new installer on.  I never 
installed all the tools, it seemed to detect the current 
installs, but everything works amazingly.

> >> Besides the LaTeX-package "preview" you need these two files in LyX's
> >> installation subfolder "\bin": libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 
> That's slightly dated. LyX 1.4.2 (the small installer) installs them 
> automatically in the "latextools" folder under the LyX root folder.  Do 
> you not have them there?

It may have been a previous install problem, or some other problem.  
The preview works great now.

They also fixed some annoying navigation bugs (at least on XP) where 
you could get stuck in a view and never navigate to a new window. 

Should we post thank-yous on the dev list?  Do they read over here?  





Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have been using tgif to do vector graphics for a few years and I have been
happy with it for simple things.

I hacked their equation object code to call lyx for equation editing.  

You double click an equation image in tgif and it should open a lyx editor with
the equation in it.  You can modify the equation in lyx (and preview it in pdf
or ps) then save and close the lyx file.  Tgif should then automatically convert
the .lyx file to ps then convert the ps to eps and load it with a preview back
into tgif.  You can see your equations and edit them in a nice lyx environment!
  Example file available at:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/tgif.obj

You may need pstoepsi somewhere in your path:

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/pstoepsi

I had to modify my previous version for use on XP, since I had the scripts copy
everything into /tmp but that gets horked on XP.


Also, I saw recently that lyx added native tgif support for the image converter.
 I have been using tgif forever, exporting to eps for use in lyx. My ImageMagick
/ convert does not appear to work on my new XP install for converting tgif .obj
files to .ppm, but that is ok, I am fine with the eps right now and I don't have
a 1.4.2 install on linux to try out yet.







Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
> > Also, I saw recently that lyx added native tgif support for the image
> > converter.
> >  I have been using tgif forever, exporting to eps for use in lyx. My
> >  ImageMagick
> > / convert does not appear to work on my new XP install for converting tgif
> > .obj files to .ppm, but that is ok, I am fine with the eps right now and I
> > don't have a 1.4.2 install on linux to try out yet.
>
> The imagemagick problem was the reason to include an explicit converter.
> If you include the .obj instead of the .eps files in LyX you will be able to
> fire up tgif from within LyX (the edit button of the graphics dialog).


On my XP box, I get garbage.  Output at console from lyx:

convert.exe: unable to open image `tgif:c:/gatzke/test.obj': Invalid argument.
convert.exe: missing an image filename `ppm:c:/Documents and
Settings/gatzke/Local Settings/Temp/lyx_tmpdir2724a03164/test2724a03164.ppm'.
c:/Program Files/LyX142/Resources/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of "convert" failed.

And when I try to convert an obj file to ppm:

convert test.obj  test.ppm
convert: unable to open module file
`/usr/lib/ImageMagick-6.0.4/modules-Q16/coders/obj.la'.
convert: missing an image filename `test.ppm'.

Maybe it is due to me not reinstalling all the peripheral software with the new
version update?






Re: interactive viewing of math symbols

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
> > feature extensively. In the windows version, this doesn't work. So, in
> > LyX 1.4.2, is it a feature or a bug? Any ideas or work arounds ?
> 
> Strange. It works fine here. Repeat after me slowly 
> 1. insert->math->whatever
> 2. type \alpha followed by blank
> 
> Do you see the real alpha?
> 
> Bo
> 
Works for me on XP.

I love the equation image preview, but the equation image is not nearly centered
when you have a numbered (labeled) equation.  

Instead of:

  math stuff
 text text
  numbered eqn  1

You get
  math stuff
 text text
 numbered eqn   1


Any ideas on how to get a little white space on the RHS?






Re: Tgif with lyx as equation editor

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke

> Are you using a native windows version of LyX? Are you using cygwin tools?
> Specifically, is your imagemagick a cygwin version?


I am using the new 1.4.2 version on Windows.  I am not sure how they compiled
it, but I assume they used cygwin.  

I am running lyx.exe from a cygwin shell (which has tgif in the path).  

Same error occurs if I use the desktop shortcut, but I don't get the error
message in the terminal:

convert.exe: unable to open image `tgif:c:/gatzke/test.obj': Invalid argument.
convert.exe: missing an image filename `ppm:c:/Documents and
Settings/gatzke/Local Settings/Temp/lyx_tmpdir2752a01764/test2752a01764.ppm'.
c:/Program Files/LyX142/Resources/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of "convert" failed.

So it looks like it is calling the convertDefaul.sh in the new Lyx 1.4.2
/Resources/scripts directory.  That convert script appears to just call
convert.exe, not tgif.

tgif itself generates ppm etc called from my command line just fine.  tgif is
never getting called.
















Re: please consolidate the documentation

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
> agreed!
> 
> one file would be so nice, because then you could search for a particular
> keyword you are looking for without having to open all the different help
> files. and since lyx/latex is so good at sectioning, it would be straight
> forward to combine them all.
> 

It does not take much to convert the documentation to one lyx file.

Change the "titles" to "Parts" and copy paste the rest in.  With some minor mods
you should be good to go.  

Not to bad, easy to do.  Gotta copy preambles too... Here you go!

http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/overall.lyx
http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gatzke/overall.pdf


Ed





Re: please consolidate the documentation

2006-07-17 Thread Ed Gatzke
> > Change the "titles" to "Parts" and copy paste the rest in.
> 
>Use Insert->Insert File->LyX file.
> 
> Rich


I think you miss out on some formatting, and you may have trouble with multiple
titles/authors and different preambles.  

To make one super document, the title of the individual files should be a 
"Part".

I just tried the insert method to combine a couple of files (tutorial and user
guide) and nothing came out due to a preamble problem.

You probably could pull some latex magick with if and include, but it would not
be very clean in lyx.





Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Ed Gatzke

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!

My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.  From a wiki:
Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 



Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Hi all,
 
 First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
 installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
 

I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 

C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.




Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Ed Gatzke

Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!

My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.  From a wiki:
Besides the LaTeX-package preview you need these two files in LyX's
installation subfolder \bin: libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 



Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Hi all,
 
 First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
 installing it, I lost View-PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
 

I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 

C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.




Re: LyX 1.4.2 and pdflatex

2006-07-16 Thread Ed Gatzke
>
Yes, thanks for a great new version!  Things run terrrific for me overall.  Even
my silly Alt-F4 to close works in the new version on XP, thanks!

My only problem so far is the win installer still did not get the equation
instant preview files loaded.  From a wiki:
>Besides the LaTeX-package "preview" you need these two files in LyX's
>installation subfolder "\bin": libnetpbm10.dll pnmcrop.exe 



Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> First, thanks to the developers for another fine update.  The Windows 
> 1.4.2 installer ran error-free for me.  However, subsequent to 
> installing it, I lost View->PDF (pdflatex) in 1.4.1 (and presumably 
> 1.4.2, but I'm keeping 1.4.1 as my production version for the moment).
> 

I have seen this here as well.  You may want to keep separate folders for each
version of lyx.  I have seen oddness when running both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 on XP. 

C:/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/Lyx1.4.x is the working
directory on XP, so make a /Lyx1.4.1 and a /Lyx1.4.2 directory you copy over to
/Lyx1.4.x everytime you start.  You won't be able to run both side by side I
think, but it may help until you swap over to the new version.




Re: Fwd: aspell on XP

2006-07-09 Thread Ed Gatzke
Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  Steve Harris wrote:
  
 
  I have LyX 1.4.2 installed and alt-f4 kills lyx but not cmd.exe
  My keyboard requires using an F-lock key to enable standard features.
 
  
  Hmm.  I was going to ask John and Ed whether alt-F4 kills programs other 
  than LyX that are being run in shells (rather than as native Windows 
  apps) (if I'm expressing that distinction correctly).  My suspicion was 
  that maybe failure to kill cmd.exe implied inability to kill anything 
  running in a shell.  However, if alt-F4 kills LyX and not cmd.exe for 

So, cmd.exe and command.exe when started from Start-Run both do not respond to
Alt-F4 for me either.  Other things started from cmd.exe command prompt do
listen to Alt F4 c:\windows\system32\winmine.exe and dvdplay.exe both respond to
Alt-F4.

I run most of my stuff from a cygwin shell, but everything closes on Alt-F4
except cmd.exe and lyx.exe.  Even when I start lyx from the desktop shortcut, it
does not respond to Alt-F4.  Even when I double click on the cmd.exe in
windows/system32 it does not respond to F4.

I have tried cmd.exe on about 6 xp machines, Alt-F4 does nothing on any of them
for cmd.exe.

The exact lyx installer is the most recent, the 2.0 installer for 1.41

lyxwininstall/LyxWin141Complete-2.01.exe


Even just running lyx.exe (not lyx.bat) appears to open a shell for a second
before the application launches... Very odd, I wonder what is up.  Maybe the
shell is the root of all problems with Alt-F4.


 
 That is actually quite a good theory...because there are different
 versions of installers and the original port might not have had a
 hook(?) built into it. But it wouldn't explain a difference in
 behavior at an OS level, methinks. I just tried Alt-F4 on my Win98
 machine Dos-prompt and that doesn't affect it. I thought perhaps
 your system might have had an earlier compatibility mode enabled,
 which would produce a different result. I'll look into it.
 

This stuff is crazy.   I tried posting on some MS help pages, and the MS
experts suggested I use Alt-Space then C, which breaks the standard that Alt-F4
closes everything, like hitting the big red X.






Re: Fwd: aspell on XP

2006-07-09 Thread Ed Gatzke
Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
  Steve Harris wrote:
  
 
  I have LyX 1.4.2 installed and alt-f4 kills lyx but not cmd.exe
  My keyboard requires using an F-lock key to enable standard features.
 
  
  Hmm.  I was going to ask John and Ed whether alt-F4 kills programs other 
  than LyX that are being run in shells (rather than as native Windows 
  apps) (if I'm expressing that distinction correctly).  My suspicion was 
  that maybe failure to kill cmd.exe implied inability to kill anything 
  running in a shell.  However, if alt-F4 kills LyX and not cmd.exe for 

So, cmd.exe and command.exe when started from Start-Run both do not respond to
Alt-F4 for me either.  Other things started from cmd.exe command prompt do
listen to Alt F4 c:\windows\system32\winmine.exe and dvdplay.exe both respond to
Alt-F4.

I run most of my stuff from a cygwin shell, but everything closes on Alt-F4
except cmd.exe and lyx.exe.  Even when I start lyx from the desktop shortcut, it
does not respond to Alt-F4.  Even when I double click on the cmd.exe in
windows/system32 it does not respond to F4.

I have tried cmd.exe on about 6 xp machines, Alt-F4 does nothing on any of them
for cmd.exe.

The exact lyx installer is the most recent, the 2.0 installer for 1.41

lyxwininstall/LyxWin141Complete-2.01.exe


Even just running lyx.exe (not lyx.bat) appears to open a shell for a second
before the application launches... Very odd, I wonder what is up.  Maybe the
shell is the root of all problems with Alt-F4.


 
 That is actually quite a good theory...because there are different
 versions of installers and the original port might not have had a
 hook(?) built into it. But it wouldn't explain a difference in
 behavior at an OS level, methinks. I just tried Alt-F4 on my Win98
 machine Dos-prompt and that doesn't affect it. I thought perhaps
 your system might have had an earlier compatibility mode enabled,
 which would produce a different result. I'll look into it.
 

This stuff is crazy.   I tried posting on some MS help pages, and the MS
experts suggested I use Alt-Space then C, which breaks the standard that Alt-F4
closes everything, like hitting the big red X.






Re: Fwd: aspell on XP

2006-07-09 Thread Ed Gatzke
Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > Steve Harris wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> I have LyX 1.4.2 installed and alt-f4 kills lyx but not cmd.exe
> >> My keyboard requires using an F-lock key to enable standard features.
> >>
> > 
> > Hmm.  I was going to ask John and Ed whether alt-F4 kills programs other 
> > than LyX that are being run in shells (rather than as native Windows 
> > apps) (if I'm expressing that distinction correctly).  My suspicion was 
> > that maybe failure to kill cmd.exe implied inability to kill anything 
> > running in a shell.  However, if alt-F4 kills LyX and not cmd.exe for 

So, cmd.exe and command.exe when started from Start->Run both do not respond to
Alt-F4 for me either.  Other things started from cmd.exe command prompt do
listen to Alt F4 c:\windows\system32\winmine.exe and dvdplay.exe both respond to
Alt-F4.

I run most of my stuff from a cygwin shell, but everything closes on Alt-F4
except cmd.exe and lyx.exe.  Even when I start lyx from the desktop shortcut, it
does not respond to Alt-F4.  Even when I double click on the cmd.exe in
windows/system32 it does not respond to F4.

I have tried cmd.exe on about 6 xp machines, Alt-F4 does nothing on any of them
for cmd.exe.

The exact lyx installer is the most recent, the 2.0 installer for 1.41

lyxwininstall/LyxWin141Complete-2.01.exe


Even just running lyx.exe (not lyx.bat) appears to open a shell for a second
before the application launches... Very odd, I wonder what is up.  Maybe the
shell is the root of all problems with Alt-F4.


> 
> That is actually quite a good theory...because there are different
> versions of installers and the original port might not have had a
> "hook"(?) built into it. But it wouldn't explain a difference in
> behavior at an OS level, methinks. I just tried Alt-F4 on my Win98
> machine Dos-prompt and that doesn't affect it. I thought perhaps
> your system might have had an earlier compatibility mode enabled,
> which would produce a different result. I'll look into it.
> 

This stuff is crazy.   I tried posting on some MS "help" pages, and the "MS
experts" suggested I use Alt-Space then C, which breaks the standard that Alt-F4
closes everything, like hitting the big red X.






Re: aspell on XP

2006-07-06 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
 Alt-F4 kills cmd.exe on my laptop, so I think there may be something 
 going on at the OS level.  There are keyboard macro programs for XP that 
   can remap function keys (I don't know if the Alt-F4 combination can be 
 remapped).  Could you have one installed?  (
 
 /Paul
 
 

Are you sure Alt-F4 kills cmd.exe?  I have tried on a couple of machines and
checked other groups, Alt-F4 does not kill cmd.exe for most.

As far as I know, I do not have ny sort of remapping or crazy application
running in the background.  All apps but cmd.exe and lyx.exe respond to Alt-F4. 
 

Using cua.bind, Alt-F3, F4, Alt-4 all can be mapped to kill lyx but not Alt-F4.
 crazy.

If you have any other ideas to try out, let me know.  Thanks!

Ed






Re: aspell on XP

2006-07-06 Thread Ed Gatzke
 
 Alt-F4 kills cmd.exe on my laptop, so I think there may be something 
 going on at the OS level.  There are keyboard macro programs for XP that 
   can remap function keys (I don't know if the Alt-F4 combination can be 
 remapped).  Could you have one installed?  (
 
 /Paul
 
 

Are you sure Alt-F4 kills cmd.exe?  I have tried on a couple of machines and
checked other groups, Alt-F4 does not kill cmd.exe for most.

As far as I know, I do not have ny sort of remapping or crazy application
running in the background.  All apps but cmd.exe and lyx.exe respond to Alt-F4. 
 

Using cua.bind, Alt-F3, F4, Alt-4 all can be mapped to kill lyx but not Alt-F4.
 crazy.

If you have any other ideas to try out, let me know.  Thanks!

Ed






Re: aspell on XP

2006-07-06 Thread Ed Gatzke
> 
> Alt-F4 kills cmd.exe on my laptop, so I think there may be something 
> going on at the OS level.  There are keyboard macro programs for XP that 
>   can remap function keys (I don't know if the Alt-F4 combination can be 
> remapped).  Could you have one installed?  (
> 
> /Paul
> 
> 

Are you sure Alt-F4 kills cmd.exe?  I have tried on a couple of machines and
checked other groups, Alt-F4 does not kill cmd.exe for most.

As far as I know, I do not have ny sort of remapping or crazy application
running in the background.  All apps but cmd.exe and lyx.exe respond to Alt-F4. 
 

Using cua.bind, Alt-F3, F4, Alt-4 all can be mapped to kill lyx but not Alt-F4.
 crazy.

If you have any other ideas to try out, let me know.  Thanks!

Ed






aspell on XP

2006-07-03 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have not been able to get spell checking to work on the 1.4.1 LyX build on
Windows XP.

I have installed Aspell-0-50-3-3-Setup.exe and told it to install in C:\Aspell

I have installed aspell6-en-6.0-0.exe in a variety of places, including
C:\Aspell  C:\Aspell\Dictionaries and C:\Aspell\lib

I have reconfigured LyX, and spellcheck is not grayed out.

I have tried to muck around with the preferences file to point directly to the
aspell.exe file.

I keep getting the error dialog, The spellchecker could not be started.  No
word lists can be found for the language en_US.

Any help would be appreciated


On another note, Alt-F4 does not close the lyx application window.  Meta
bindings work in other cases, and I can modify stuff in my cua.bind but M-F4
binding to lyx-quid does nothing, although C-F4 works.  All windows apps should
responding to alt-f4, so this is annoying to me...

Thanks!
Ed Gatzke



aspell on XP

2006-07-03 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have not been able to get spell checking to work on the 1.4.1 LyX build on
Windows XP.

I have installed Aspell-0-50-3-3-Setup.exe and told it to install in C:\Aspell

I have installed aspell6-en-6.0-0.exe in a variety of places, including
C:\Aspell  C:\Aspell\Dictionaries and C:\Aspell\lib

I have reconfigured LyX, and spellcheck is not grayed out.

I have tried to muck around with the preferences file to point directly to the
aspell.exe file.

I keep getting the error dialog, The spellchecker could not be started.  No
word lists can be found for the language en_US.

Any help would be appreciated


On another note, Alt-F4 does not close the lyx application window.  Meta
bindings work in other cases, and I can modify stuff in my cua.bind but M-F4
binding to lyx-quid does nothing, although C-F4 works.  All windows apps should
responding to alt-f4, so this is annoying to me...

Thanks!
Ed Gatzke



aspell on XP

2006-07-03 Thread Ed Gatzke

I have not been able to get spell checking to work on the 1.4.1 LyX build on
Windows XP.

I have installed Aspell-0-50-3-3-Setup.exe and told it to install in C:\Aspell

I have installed aspell6-en-6.0-0.exe in a variety of places, including
C:\Aspell  C:\Aspell\Dictionaries and C:\Aspell\lib

I have reconfigured LyX, and spellcheck is not grayed out.

I have tried to muck around with the preferences file to point directly to the
aspell.exe file.

I keep getting the error dialog, "The spellchecker could not be started.  No
word lists can be found for the language "en_US"."

Any help would be appreciated


On another note, Alt-F4 does not close the lyx application window.  Meta
bindings work in other cases, and I can modify stuff in my cua.bind but M-F4
binding to lyx-quid does nothing, although C-F4 works.  All windows apps should
responding to alt-f4, so this is annoying to me...

Thanks!
Ed Gatzke



Mandrake 8.1

2002-01-13 Thread Ed Gatzke

I saw in the archives that people are having problems with rendering in
LyX on new Mandrake 8.1 installs.

Has anyone found a reasonable fix?

Thanks for your help.

Ed Gatzke



Mandrake 8.1

2002-01-13 Thread Ed Gatzke

I saw in the archives that people are having problems with rendering in
LyX on new Mandrake 8.1 installs.

Has anyone found a reasonable fix?

Thanks for your help.

Ed Gatzke



Mandrake 8.1

2002-01-13 Thread Ed Gatzke

I saw in the archives that people are having problems with rendering in
LyX on new Mandrake 8.1 installs.

Has anyone found a reasonable fix?

Thanks for your help.

Ed Gatzke