Re: I need workaround of encoding problem - SOLVED!
> >I get a new hard disk, and I installed suse 9.3, > with > >this I installed lyx 1.3.5. I make several > >installations with different options, (english US, > >spanish, english UK, for default language, etc.) > >Spellchecker no work in any case. I make trial with > >export LANG=es_ES, I get that lyx appears with > menu, > >but spellchecker no work. > >Marcelo > > > Did you install dictionaries for aspell as well? > Installing aspell only installs the executable > program. It does not install any dictionaries, you > must do that too before you can spellcheck. > > What happens if you create a short plaintext file > with some spelling errors and run > aspell test.txt > on the command line? > If this doesn't work, then aspell cannot possibly > work with lyx either. If this works but lyx > spellchecking doesn't, then the problem is in lyx > somehow. > > Helge Hafting > Helge, Stephen, aspell and ispell are correctly installed. >From Lyx 1.4.0pre5, and for first time, keyboard work OK. Until four day early I was using 1.3.7 and testing 1.4.0pre3. Now, with pre5, I not need keymap and not need strange key for accented characters. With this I discovered that an option of Preferences that in any 1.3.x no work for me ---Use Input Encoding--- now, and only with ispell ---not with aspell---, work correctly. With (aspell or lyx 1.3.x) and (Use Input Encoding) I get word cuted or stranges characters by acented characters. Thanks to all. I am very happy. Marcelo __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I get a new hard disk, and I installed suse 9.3, with this I installed lyx 1.3.5. I make several installations with different options, (english US, spanish, english UK, for default language, etc.) Spellchecker no work in any case. I make trial with export LANG=es_ES, I get that lyx appears with menu, but spellchecker no work. Marcelo Did you install dictionaries for aspell as well? Installing aspell only installs the executable program. It does not install any dictionaries, you must do that too before you can spellcheck. What happens if you create a short plaintext file with some spelling errors and run aspell test.txt on the command line? If this doesn't work, then aspell cannot possibly work with lyx either. If this works but lyx spellchecking doesn't, then the problem is in lyx somehow. Helge Hafting
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
- Original Message - From: "Marcelo Acuña" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Re: I need workaround of encoding problem >>>>>I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters >>>>>and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. >>>>> I get a new hard disk, and I installed suse 9.3, with this I installed lyx 1.3.5. I make several installations with different options, (english US, spanish, english UK, for default language, etc.) Spellchecker no work in any case. I make trial with export LANG=es_ES, I get that lyx appears with menu, but spellchecker no work. Marcelo I forgot to mention something. You have a new hard disk. You need to install your LyX helper programs (Aspell etc.) before installing LyX. Otherwise LyX can't incorporate them. If you installed Aspell after LyX, then Lyx doesn't know about it. You would need to go to LyX->Edit->Reconfigure in order to update LyX's awareness that Aspell (or other apps) is now installed. You should still manually (not in LyX) check that Aspell works. I'll bet you a dollar to a donut* that you have a dictionary problem, Stephen *In the olden days in the US a dollar used to be worth more than the cost of a donut so I would be laying favorable odds to you.
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
- Original Message - From: "Marcelo Acuña" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Re: I need workaround of encoding problem >>>>>I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters >>>>>and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. >>>>> >>>>> >>export LANG=es_ES >>>>Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the >>>>modified language. You should still get the lyx >>>>GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. >>>>And now the spellchecker works too. :-) >>>> >>>> >>No work for me :-( >What can I do? I need run spellcheck. > > Your lyx installation is clearly broken, perhaps a reinstall is in place. What operating system do you use, how did you install lyx? If you get lyx itself working fine (with menu) but still have trouble with the spellchecker, ask again. Helge Hafting I get a new hard disk, and I installed suse 9.3, with this I installed lyx 1.3.5. I make several installations with different options, (english US, spanish, english UK, for default language, etc.) Spellchecker no work in any case. I make trial with export LANG=es_ES, I get that lyx appears with menu, but spellchecker no work. Marcelo Be systematic with your troubleshooting. Make a small file of misspelled words. Test that Aspell works all by itself. From the command line in your Aspell directory containing mispelled.txt type: aspell -c misspelled.txt If you have the Aspell program and a dictionary installed, this should start checking that file for spelling errors. LyX can't use Aspell unless Aspell works first, all by itself. This way you can tell if the spellchecker itself is not working or if it is a problem with LyX. Does your spellchecker recognize the tilde over ene? Misspell anos in your misspelled.txt list of words and see if the missing tilde is recognized. If not the problem is probably your dictionary. That does not eliminate the possibility that there might be a problem later with LyX. But if not standalone, then not with LyX. With Linux you can have multiple dicts but there is probably a config file for that covered in Aspell docs. Regards, Stephen
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
> >I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters > >and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. > > > > > >>export LANG=es_ES > Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the > modified language. You should still get the > lyx > GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. > And now the spellchecker works too. :-) > > > >>No work for me :-( > >What can I do? I need run spellcheck. > > > > > Your lyx installation is clearly broken, perhaps a > reinstall > is in place. What operating system do you use, how > did > you install lyx? > > If you get lyx itself working fine (with menu) but > still > have trouble with the spellchecker, ask again. > > Helge Hafting > I get a new hard disk, and I installed suse 9.3, with this I installed lyx 1.3.5. I make several installations with different options, (english US, spanish, english UK, for default language, etc.) Spellchecker no work in any case. I make trial with export LANG=es_ES, I get that lyx appears with menu, but spellchecker no work. Marcelo ___ A tu celular ¿no le falta algo? Usá Yahoo! Messenger y Correo Yahoo! en tu teléfono celular. Más información en http://movil.yahoo.com.ar
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. Common problem for unicode users, because lyx doesn't support unicode. That cause trouble when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx gives it iso8859 encoded text. echo $LANG with this nothing is show. export LANG=es_ES Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the modified language. You should still get the lyx GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. And now the spellchecker works too. :-) No work for me :-( Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only Strange. If the menu isn't translated, then you should get it in english instead. This looks like a broken installation. a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre) and I get error in conversion. Then I open with lyx (from icon), deleted list of fig, repeat process and when I open the file lyx go out (aborted) with an error message. Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be released? I can only guess - a year or two. The spellchecker and rest of lyx is supposed to work fine when LANG doesn't contain the UTF-8 part though. no work for me. What can I do? I need run spellcheck. Your lyx installation is clearly broken, perhaps a reinstall is in place. What operating system do you use, how did you install lyx? The menu should never ever disappear. Get that working, then look at the spellchecker. What version of lyx is this? You may get in trouble if you mix lyx-1.4pre and earlier versions, as they may want to use the same directories. Particularly .lyx/ in your home directory, assuming that you're on linux (or other unix). Things to try: 1. rename .lyx to .lyx-old rename the .lyx directory in your home directory to something like .lyx-old. Then run lyx, and see if things gets better. This may work as running lyx-1.4 may overwrite some stuff in the .lyx directory, so it don't work too well with lyx-1.3 anymore. Note that any customization will be lost this way, but you can find all customized stuff in .lyx-old/ and copy items over one by one. 2. reinstall lyx If you tried lyx 1.4 briefly and now wants to use lyx 1.3 again, do reinstall lyx 1.3 even if it seems to exist on your pc. This because the test install of lyx 1.4 may have overwritten some of lyx-1.3's files. If your package manager don't want to reinstall, remove lyx and then reinstall it. The latest lyx 1.3 is now lyx 1.3.7. This version works better with files from lyx-1.4 than the older versions of lyx-1.3 do. If you get lyx itself working fine (with menu) but still have trouble with the spellchecker, ask again. Helge Hafting
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
> >>>I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters > >>>and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. >>Common problem for unicode users, because >>lyx doesn't support unicode. That cause trouble >>when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx >>gives it iso8859 encoded text. > >>echo $LANG >with this nothing is show. >export LANG=es_ES > >>Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the > >>modified language. You should still get the lyx > >>GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. > >>And now the spellchecker works too. :-) >No work for me :-( >Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only > > >> Strange. If the menu isn't translated, then you >> should get >> it in english instead. This looks like a broken >> installation. > >a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open >and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre) >and I get error in conversion. >Then I open with lyx (from icon), >deleted list of fig, >repeat process and when I open the file >lyx go out (aborted) with an error message. >Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be >released? > > I can only guess - a year or two. The spellchecker > and rest of lyx is supposed to work fine when LANG > doesn't contain the UTF-8 part though. > no work for me. What can I do? I need run spellcheck. Thanks Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
Marcelo Acuña wrote: I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. Common problem for unicode users, because lyx doesn't support unicode. That cause trouble when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx gives it iso8859 encoded text. Here's what I do: 1. Start an xterm or similiar command line 2. Figure out what LANG setting you have, like this: echo $LANG with this nothing is show. I get nb_NO.UTF-8, you probably have something else. Change to a LANG without the UTF-8 part. In my case: export LANG=nb_NO export LANG=es_ES Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the modified language. You should still get the lyx GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. And now the spellchecker works too. :-) No work for me :-( Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only Strange. If the menu isn't translated, then you should get it in english instead. This looks like a broken installation. a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre) and I get error in conversion. Then I open with lyx (from icon), deleted list of fig, repeat process and when I open the file lyx go out (aborted) with an error message. Fixing this is planned for lyx 1.5.0, which will have unicode support. Helge Hafting Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be released? I can only guess - a year or two. The spellchecker and rest of lyx is supposed to work fine when LANG doesn't contain the UTF-8 part though. The lack of unicode should not prevent you from using ñ, you merely have to use an encoding where the ñ exist. Unicode will allow all symbols in the same document, so it becomes possible to mix russian, lating and greek letters at the same time. Helge Hafting
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
> >I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters > >and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. > Common problem for unicode users, because > lyx doesn't support unicode. That cause trouble > when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx > gives it iso8859 encoded text. > Here's what I do: > 1. Start an xterm or similiar command line > 2. Figure out what LANG setting you have, like this: > echo $LANG with this nothing is show. > I get nb_NO.UTF-8, you probably have something else. > Change to a LANG without the UTF-8 part. In my case: > export LANG=nb_NO > export LANG=es_ES > Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the > modified language. You should still get the lyx > GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. > And now the spellchecker works too. :-) No work for me :-( Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre) and I get error in conversion. Then I open with lyx (from icon), deleted list of fig, repeat process and when I open the file lyx go out (aborted) with an error message. > Fixing this is planned for lyx 1.5.0, which will > have unicode support. > Helge Hafting Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be released? Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
> > I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters > > and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. > > I try to use ispell from command line but > > I can't said nothing to ispell about char > > enconding. > > aspell -c --encoding=iso8859-1 filename.lyx With this encoding are ok but this no work well for me. With aspell and ispell from command line word are read break in several times like this: En la mañana del 16 de dici embre de 1793 ... diciembre (December) appears break and is not recognized. Aspell, and ispell, read dici first, not in dictionary, then read embre, again not en dictionary. This, plus a lot of latex and lyx command make the work very dificult. Marcelo ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
Marcelo Acuña wrote: Hello, I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. I try to use ispell from command line but I can't said nothing to ispell about char enconding. How I can workaround and get spellcheck my lyx file? Thanks Marcelo Common problem for unicode users, because lyx doesn't support unicode. That cause trouble when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx gives it iso8859 encoded text. Here's what I do: 1. Start an xterm or similiar command line 2. Figure out what LANG setting you have, like this: echo $LANG I get nb_NO.UTF-8, you probably have something else. Change to a LANG without the UTF-8 part. In my case: export LANG=nb_NO Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the modified language. You should still get the lyx GUI in your language, assuming it is translated. And now the spellchecker works too. :-) Fixing this is planned for lyx 1.5.0, which will have unicode support. Helge Hafting
Re: I need workaround of encoding problem
Hi Marcelo, 2006-02-14 20:11 -0300, Marcelo Acuña: > Hello, > I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters > and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell. > I try to use ispell from command line but > I can't said nothing to ispell about char > enconding. > How I can workaround and get spellcheck > my lyx file? If you are a Linux user, you can try starting aspell in console-mode by entering at the command prompt: aspell -c --encoding=iso8859-1 filename.lyx whereby filename.lyx should be replaced by the name of the file to be spell-checked. This works for me with documents written in Finnish and containing special characters like ä and ö causing problems when spellchecking is made in LyX. If your special characters are still not recognised, you may try other encodings. Kind regards, Kimmo
