Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Waluyo Adi Siswanto
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:56 +, Graham Smith wrote:
> Has anyone installed 1.6 on Ubuntu 8.04?  Its available for Jaunty (as 
> pointed out elsewhere on this forum), but not sure of the risks that may 
> be involved.
> 
Yes I did successfully install 1.6 from source. I just follow from this
thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg65444.html

> I currently have 1.5.5 installed via the Ubuntu repository, should I 
> uninstall this before installing 1.6, or is it a bad idea to install 1.6 
> before its officially available for 8.04.

No i did not uninstall the version 1.5.5 as I am still using it for a
reason. It works parallel with version 1.6

I use the following commands after downloading the source 1.6
./configure --with-version-suffix=-1.6.0
make
sudo make install

> 
> I am new to Linux, and still finding my feet with it.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> Graham
> 



Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-17 Thread Graham Smith

Waluyo


On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 17:56 +, Graham Smith wrote:
Has anyone installed 1.6 on Ubuntu 8.04?  Its available for Jaunty (as 
pointed out elsewhere on this forum), but not sure of the risks that may 
be involved.



Yes I did successfully install 1.6 from source. I just follow from this
thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg65444.html


Thanks, that is really useful.

Graham


Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-18 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Graham Smith wrote:
Has anyone installed 1.6 on Ubuntu 8.04?  Its available for Jaunty (as 
pointed out elsewhere on this forum), but not sure of the risks that may 
be involved.


I currently have 1.5.5 installed via the Ubuntu repository, should I 
uninstall this before installing 1.6, or is it a bad idea to install 1.6 
before its officially available for 8.04.


I am new to Linux, and still finding my feet with it.



Don't know about 8.04, but I installed LyX 1.6.0-1 on Ubuntu 8.10 
(Intrepid), and so far so good (in limited use).  Rather than building 
it myself, I installed a couple of .deb archives.  The steps are:


1.  Go to http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and pick a secondary mirror 
"near" you.


2.  In Ubuntu, go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources -> 
Third-Party Software, click Add, and add the mirror you chose.  The 
entry line will look like 'deb http://ftp.someserver.somedomain sid main'.


3.  After entering it, click 'Close' and then, when prompted, click 
'Reload' to update the package list.  Click through any messages you 
get, then wait until the sources window closes on its own.


3a.  I've had some odd results with mirrors not being accepted because 
certificates are out of date or something else goes splat.  So you might 
have to repeat 1-3 with a different mirror.  FWIW, the mirror at 
Michigan State is working for me.


4.  Now run System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager and 
search for 'lyx'.  Among other things, it should turn up packages 'lyx' 
and 'lyx-common' (both at version 1.6.0-1).  Click 'lyx' and mark for 
installation.  That should also mark 'lyx-common' for installation, I 
think, but if not mark it yourself.  Then click 'Apply' and sit back 
while it installs.


/Paul



Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-18 Thread Graham Smith

Paul,

Thanks, but I have a a question below.

Don't know about 8.04, but I installed LyX 1.6.0-1 on Ubuntu 8.10 
(Intrepid), and so far so good (in limited use).  Rather than building 
it myself, I installed a couple of .deb archives.  The steps are:


1.  Go to http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and pick a secondary mirror 
"near" you.


2.  In Ubuntu, go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources -> 
Third-Party Software, click Add, and add the mirror you chose.  The 
entry line will look like 'deb http://ftp.someserver.somedomain sid main'.


Will this result in all packages being updated through the deb 
repository rather than the Ubuntu repository?


Or does the "sid" bit restrict it to the Lyx files.

You also talk about adding a "couple" of repositories. but only list 
one. Or, by a couple do you mean lyx and lyx-common ?


Sorry for basic questions :-(

Graham




Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-18 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Graham Smith wrote:

Paul,

Thanks, but I have a a question below.

Don't know about 8.04, but I installed LyX 1.6.0-1 on Ubuntu 8.10 
(Intrepid), and so far so good (in limited use).  Rather than building 
it myself, I installed a couple of .deb archives.  The steps are:


1.  Go to http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and pick a secondary 
mirror "near" you.


2.  In Ubuntu, go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources -> 
Third-Party Software, click Add, and add the mirror you chose.  The 
entry line will look like 'deb http://ftp.someserver.somedomain sid 
main'.


Will this result in all packages being updated through the deb 
repository rather than the Ubuntu repository?


Or does the "sid" bit restrict it to the Lyx files.


No, SID doesn't restrict it to LyX, and you're right in not wanting to 
update other stuff from there.  The trick is to enable the Debian SID 
repository (it will automatically be enabled when you first enter it), 
use Synaptic to install LyX (ignoring any messages to the effect that 
you have updates for 2,387 packages available), then go back into 
Sources (or Settings -> Repositories from within Synaptic) and disable 
the mirror (but leave it defined, in case you need it again).  If the 
"you have updates" bug is still displaying, use the Reload button in 
Synaptic to refresh the package list.


When I did this, Ubuntu did indeed think it found updates in the Debian 
mirror, but as long as you don't install them, no harm done.


You also talk about adding a "couple" of repositories. but only list 
one. Or, by a couple do you mean lyx and lyx-common ?


Can I just answer 'yes'?  :-)  There are two packages, lyx and 
lyx-common.  I happen to have two Debian SID mirrors set up; I first 
tried the one on my campus, but I got an error message about a missing 
public certificate (which I get again today), so I tried a second one. 
I don't remember which one I installed from, but I think the 
installation works even with the missing certificate glitch.




Sorry for basic questions :-(


Not to worry.  I'm still finding my way around Ubuntu myself.

And thanks to the kind folks who put together the .debs and added them 
to the repository.


/Paul



Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-18 Thread Graham Smith

Paul
Will this result in all packages being updated through the deb 
repository rather than the Ubuntu repository?


Or does the "sid" bit restrict it to the Lyx files.


No, SID doesn't restrict it to LyX, and you're right in not wanting to 
update other stuff from there.  The trick is to enable the Debian SID 
repository (it will automatically be enabled when you first enter it), 
use Synaptic to install LyX (ignoring any messages to the effect that 
you have updates for 2,387 packages available), then go back into 
Sources (or Settings -> Repositories from within Synaptic) and disable 
the mirror (but leave it defined, in case you need it again).  If the 
"you have updates" bug is still displaying, use the Reload button in 
Synaptic to refresh the package list.


Thanks again :-)

Graham


Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-26 Thread lyx
 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:14:35 +
> Von: Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Betreff: Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

> Paul
> >> Will this result in all packages being updated through the deb 
> >> repository rather than the Ubuntu repository?
> >>
> >> Or does the "sid" bit restrict it to the Lyx files.
> > 
> > No, SID doesn't restrict it to LyX, and you're right in not wanting to 
> > update other stuff from there.  The trick is to enable the Debian SID 
> > repository (it will automatically be enabled when you first enter it), 
> > use Synaptic to install LyX (ignoring any messages to the effect that 
> > you have updates for 2,387 packages available), then go back into 
> > Sources (or Settings -> Repositories from within Synaptic) and disable 
> > the mirror (but leave it defined, in case you need it again).  If the 
> > "you have updates" bug is still displaying, use the Reload button in 
> > Synaptic to refresh the package list.
> 
> Thanks again :-)
> 
> Graham


Hm, I don't think it's a good idea to use a sid repository in ubuntu, 
especially not in the older 8.04. There happen to be backports for LyX at 
getdeb: http://www.getdeb.net/app/LyX However, it's still rc3 for hardy there. 

Well, if you like them you could also use the packages I have been building and 
linking in the LyX Wiki for some time now. They are not checkinstall packages 
but packaged "by hand" and they also pull in a reasonable set of dependencies: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download (feel free to comment on those here anyway)

Phil


Re: Lyx 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04

2008-11-26 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:12:53AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well, if you like them you could also use the packages I have been building 
> and linking in the LyX Wiki for some time now. They are not checkinstall 
> packages but packaged "by hand" and they also pull in a reasonable set of 
> dependencies: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Download (feel free to comment on those 
> here anyway)

I'm pretty sure I ranted about it before - when you don't use external
boost libs you should not depend on them. I'm not sure if pulling in useless
libs is something 'reasonable'.

What's so hard about simply using the latest /debian/ directory provided in
Debian and Ubuntu and just tweak where needed? Using pbuilder to build the
package as plus. And consider publishing sources for GPL'ed stuff.

Sven