Re: Accumulating desktops

[Sarah Alawami]

You can disable them in the keyboard prefs I believe. It's been a bit long 
since I did this so I might need a refresher course as well lol!
On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Catherine Golding wrote:

> I seem to be collecting desktops numbered 1 through 4. How am I doing that?
> And secondly, is there a way to get rid of dashboard and/or mission
> control?
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Accumulating desktops

[Catherine Golding]

I seem to be collecting desktops numbered 1 through 4. How am I doing that?
And secondly, is there a way to get rid of dashboard and/or mission
control?

 

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Re: misión contro

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You stop them by going to system prefs and then to keyboard and unchecking all 
of the mission control check boxes under the short cuts tab I believe..

Take care.
On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:15 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

> Hi there. I am finding hat as I use curser keys to read things that the 
> mission control keeps coming up. DOes anyone have ideas how to stop this?
> Thanks.
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Re: uploading to youtube.

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello. click the final choose files button with vo shift space and then cmd tab 
away from and back to safari after you hear choose file. what about 5 seconds 
between the cmd tabs. Now choose your movie and make your edits. The category 
thing is not accessible with safari anymore as far as I can tell. I dunno what 
they did to change that and I hope they fixed it in today's maintenance.

Take care.
On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:55 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> Hi all what's the easyest way to upload to youtube with the mac bare in mind 
> i've got no vission so need to be able to do it with voice over smiley.
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> thanks very much.
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Navigon accessibility -> was bad-Elf.

[Geoff Waaler]

  Well, thanks much for the insight into the source of your information if 
nothing else.  Generally, if I'm walking in the rain and others tell me the sun 
is shining, I will go with what I can share from personal experience, and 
accordingly suggest a rain coat.  Now I know that when you say JMT, you are in 
reality sharing what you read on other lists from people who may or may not 
have conducted their own investigation.

  For the benefit of those who may have recently joined, or just became 
interested in Navigon, I will repost  my initial findings after installing 
version 2, since I for one would not have understood the instructions below 
unless I already knew what the person was attempting to convey.

  On Nov 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

  Greetings y'all,

  This afternoon I took a trip via Para transit.  I pulled the 
  destination up in favorites, set the route type to "car" and started 
  navigation.

  There were a couple other pick-ups/drop-offs along the way, resulting in 
  the need for a lot of rerouting.  Throughout the nearly 50 minute trip, 
  Navigon continuously gave directions even though I was concurrently 
  streaming Audio, reading eMail and playing with Ariadne GPS just for good 
  measure.  Navigon was rarely ever in the foreground.

  While in the foreground, however, I discovered that double tapping the 
  speed indicator, located in the top center of the main Navigon routing 
  Window just below the status line consistently presented a dialog where I 
  have the option of quitting the route, adding an interim destination, and 
  several other choices.

  It was only a matter of time, but while Navigon 2.0 includes current 
  maps, it now requires a $15 in-app purchase in order to receive quarterly 
  updates (the duration was unspecified, but I would presume it's yearly?).

  Best regards.
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Sarah Alawami" 
  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
  Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:02 PM
  Subject: Re: My results using Navigon NorthAmerica v2 on a 4S.


  > Hmm interesting. I still don't like it. I have a live journal finding at 
  > http://marrie12.livejournal.com and voice over still slows to a crawl 
  > after about 4 or 5 minutes of use. This to me is not acceptable. I also 
  > hacve an audio boo posting at http://audioboo.fm/marrie1 showing this as 
  > well. I wish they would  fix this.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Geoff Waaler 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:36 PM
  Subject: Re: My results using Navigon NorthAmerica v2 on a 4S.


  Hi Sarah and list,

  Your LiveJournal post was very well done and may serve as an excellent 
  resource for anyone who is having trouble getting started.

  I listened to your Audio demo several times, and followed along, even to the 
  point of adding my nearest Subway to my favorites.  First of all, there is a 
  huge disparity in our load times.  I counted about 13 seconds until Navigon 
  loaded for you.  On mine I hear two double beeps instead of one.  The first 
  occurs after about four seconds and the second is emitted two seconds later 
  when Navigon is completely launched.  I would therefore conclude that my 
  load time is about 44% of what you're seeing.  Perhaps this accounts for my 
  lack of sluggishness.  I am not observing any crashes or slowdowns 
  whatsoever.  I will continue to watch this because if a memory leak accounts 
  for this, I too should be bitten by that bug eventually regardless of the 
  faster processor.

  Upon further testing, I need to correct one of my observations from my prior 
  post in this thread.  Though I can reliably cancel a route, this will place 
  me into a navigation window where I can display GPS data.  I can not enter 
  another destination without first relaunching Navigon.

  Best regards.
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bubba 
  To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:18 AM
  Subject: RE: Bad-Elf


  Well, there is a way to close it and get to the options without closing
  Navigan and the the running of it slower and more slugfest than on the
  iphone4s is due to the fact that the iphone4s has a much better processer
  and other hardware. I use it on my iphone3gs and it runs just fine if I only
  run navigan and nothing else in the background. This is because nothing else
  is really using processer and memory other than normal phone operation and
  Vo. Yes accessibility is sort of in the beholder of the device or whatever!
  But for most there is a accessibility problem with navigon  I use it just
  fine myself and really have no difficulty with it ! But I know of lots of
  other that is having terrible problems with it and accessibility ! I would
  say this is because of their ability to use technology and having a short
  fuse! But there is some accessibility problems. This is my thoughts and
  opinion and that only! No

Re: the i-phone 4 s

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Glenn,

The diameter of the 4S lends was increased along with a nearly tripling in 
resolution (8MP vs 5MP).  To help explain why 8 is nearly three times greater 
than 5, remember your exponents and consider a square inch with five dots per 
inch.  You would need 25 dots (5*5) to fill that space.  Now, if you wanna 
increase the resolution to 8 DPI you'd need to come up with 64 pixels instead.

Because of this change in specs, a case designed for use with an iPhone 4 will 
not work for a 4S unless you don't mind black edges around your pics.  
Conversely, a 4 will fit a 4S case since the only difference would be a larger 
aperture hole.

HTH.
Geoff



  - Original Message - 
  From: G.E. 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:53 PM
  Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s


  Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel 
  camera, like my 4G?
  If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring.
  Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Terry Clasper" 
  To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM
  Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s


  HI Michael yes indeed it does!

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  [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver
  Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01
  To: mac-access@mac-access.net
  Subject: the i-phone 4 s

  does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone
  4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the
  volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is
  facing up at the top?
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uploading to youtube.

[Ian McNamara]

Hi all what's the easyest way to upload to youtube with the mac bare in mind 
i've got no vission so need to be able to do it with voice over smiley.

thanks very much.

Ian McNamara
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misión contro

[Lovette Yewchan]

Hi there. I am finding hat as I use curser keys to read things that the mission 
control keeps coming up. DOes anyone have ideas how to stop this?
Thanks.
Lovette

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Re: Cable needed for dock connection

[Eric Caron]

Esther, John and others,

I just wanted to follow up with all those who sent me in the right 
direction to get the cable Jive dock extender cable.  I did get it from Amazon 
US and got the premium as Esther suggested.  It works great with the Otter box. 
 It also works well with not only my Sony dock but also it turns out I need it 
to use my car charger as that did not fit my case as well.

The cable seems well made and sturdy.  I actually prefer using the cable even 
with my old 3GS and the doc even though the 3GS can go directly onto the doc.  
I like to just hold it in my hand to use rather then poking at it sitting in 
the dock tray.

Thanks again to everyone for this tip and I highly recommend it for anyone who 
has a otter box or who wants to use a doc without setting the phone in the 
often delicate trey. 


eric Caron

On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> Yes, the term you are looking for is "Dock extension or extender cable".  
> Cable Jive makes these specifically for all the people who have Otterbox 
> cases, and for whom other dock extension cables don't work because of the 
> narrow opening of the Otterbox cases. (If you read the fine print, they'll 
> often say that their  cables work for all cases except the Otterbox cases.)  
> Geoff Waaler ordered one of these directly from CableJive when he had to be 
> on a waiting list before the first batch was produced well over a year ago.  
> In addition to the dockXtender product that came out in May 2010 in two 
> lengths, they have a new product introduced this September called the 
> CableJive dockBoss+ that is designed to let you use Docks with Android and 
> other non-iPhone players as well.  It has both a 30-pin connecter for 
> iPhone/iPod/iPad docks, and also a standard micro USB plug and 3.5mm audio 
> plug for Android and other phones. The dockBoss+ is mostly likely to be of 
> interest for people who h
 av
> e Android and other devicess that they also want to use with iPhone speaker 
> docks. 
> 
> CableJive also sells other specially long (or short) dock cables.  Geoff 
> mentioned that he had to negotiate a CAPTCHA to buy his dock eXtender cables 
> from the site over a year ago.  I don't know whether that is still true. You 
> can also buy these from Amazon (U.S.), but make sure the product is named 
> something like "CableJive dockXtender Premium Extension Cable for iPhone, 
> iPod, iPad (Black, 2ft.)" or similar title with the 6 ft. length, so you get 
> the cable that is compatible with the Otterbox, and not the older cables that 
> are compatible with every case except for the Otterbox.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 16:35, John Gunn wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Go to cablejive.com and you'll find your cable.
>> 
>> You have 2 lengths to choose from, 2 foot or 6 foot.
>> 
>> Let me know if you aren't unable to locate it.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Erick:
>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how to google this question so I'm going to start with you 
>>> good folks and see if anyone has a suggestion.  I have a sony dock and have 
>>> had problems connecting my iPhone 3GS and now can't connect my 4S because 
>>> it is in a Otter Box case.  Is there such a thing as a cable that connects 
>>> to the apple connector on the dock and then to the phone?  I'd be perfectly 
>>> happy to set the phone near the dock rather then in the somewhat fragile 
>>> holder.  Also I can't be bothered to take the phone out of the Otter box 
>>> case. 
>>> 
>>> So does such a cable exist?  Any one have a suggestion as the name it 
>>> is called so I can find it? 
>>> 
>>> tips appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Oh! one other comment, my 3GS has a crack in the case near the connector.  
>>> I'm pretty sure this happened in the dock despite my efforts to be careful. 
>>>  I think the cable connector would be a better option for me.  Also, I 
>>> don't want to just use the aux input as that won't give me the ability to 
>>> charge the phone while connected. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks for your ideas.
>>> 
>>> eric Caron
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Re: the i-phone 4 s

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Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel 
camera, like my 4G?
If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring.
Glenn
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To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s


HI Michael yes indeed it does!

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver
Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: the i-phone 4 s

does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone
4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the
volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is
facing up at the top?
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Re: Bad-Elf

[Desi Noller]

Thanks so much Bubba!  I'm now working with the Bad-Elf people to see if there 
is a solution, so I'll let you know if I find one!

Desi


On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Bubba wrote:

> I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from
> accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to
> be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your
> preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to
> access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do is
> close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher.  HTH and JMT 
> 
> 
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bad-Elf
> 
> Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully
> someone  one else will like the app.
> 
> good luck with using your gps cradel.
> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote:
> 
>> Thanks so much Sarah!  I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but
> I'll definitely check again.  It has to be an App that stores its maps on
> the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi.
>> 
>> Desi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I am, and i use  it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but all
> in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get
> the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it
> is on that list of apps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon?  That's the one I
> heard people were having problems with.
 
 Desi
 
 
 On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It
> take ssome getting used to and I  use it every day for my travels.
> 
> Take care.
> On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod
> Touch?  It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the
> most accessible with VoiceOver.  I had originally thought I would use
> Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, and
> I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work!  Any help
> with this would be most appreciated!  The Bad-Elf web site has a list of
> Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one
> would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed since
> Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use.
>> 
>> Desi
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Re: Facebook chat instructions wasReading Chat HIstory in adium

[Deb Lewis]

Excellent. I already had the short name for facebook so was able to
skip down to setting it up in Adium. Works like a charm.

On 12/6/11, Red.Falcon  wrote:
> Hi Deb!
> This should be what you need to do to get Facebook chatting!
> hth Colin
> Qapla!
> 1. go to facebook.com and go to your account!
> 2. open account settings and select change user name [ even if you do not
> have one]
> 3. Facebook should give you some options and just after them will be a more
> link select it!
> 4. Now after the options Facebook gives you [I did not  like the suggestions
> for me] there is a edit box where you can put your own name!
> There is a see if name is available button after you put your choice, if it
> is available you can have it!
> If not try another or add a number to the end! [ it might help]
> 5. When your happy come out of Facebook and open Adium!
> 6. In Adium on your contacts window open vo+m and go to the file menu!
> 7. Scroll down to add new account sub menu and arrow right, go down to
> Jabber and select it!
> 8. In the new account window is where you'll find those tabs, the first one
> should be selected just scroll past until you get to where you put your new
> user name!
> When you've entered it the next field is your Facebook password!
> 9. After filling those in go back to the options tab select and scroll to
> where you put the server name [ as you correctly said ] chat.facebook.com
> and enter it!
> 10. go to register new account button and press it!
> And you should be done! :]
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:11, Deb Lewis wrote:
>
>> based on the time stamp, I think I discovered this at just about the time
>> you were writing. Never occurred to me to click on that Unknown button.
>> It's absolutely fabulous.
>> Thanks so much!!
>>
>> deb
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Deb,
>>>
>>> As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as
>>> HTML.  After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire
>>> history.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>>> Geoff
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Deb Lewis
>>> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>> Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is
>>> working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if
>>> i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live
>>> chat is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the
>>> menus including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If
>>> anyone could unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Deb
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Watch subject lines (was: YoruFukurou: don't update.+

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Folks,

Wearing another hat for a second, can we watch the subject line on this one 
please?  In the interests of maintaining nice, searchable archives can we bring 
this thread back to whether or not to update the software in question, or 
change the subject line to reflect the content now under discussion.

Thanks a lot,

Dónal
On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:14, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Now I have a question about this software, how do you "Follow" a user from 
> within the software?
> 
> 
> On 07/12/2011, at 3:58 AM, Ian McNamara wrote:
> 
>> ianmcnamara
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Re: finding ways around

[Lewis Alexander]

OK let's see what can be done here.

you say that when you try to make system changes and need to lock or unlock and 
it asks for a password. stupid question but did you try just hitting enter on 
the password. there's a chance there's no password but it always asks for one 
as normal, no matter whether you log in or anything else. if your system wasn't 
set up with a password then you are ok. if there is a system password, then 
it's time to break out the big guns...

Ladies Shall we dance?

let the password testing begin.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 18:24, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

> Unfortunately I do not have any softwre or backup. He apparently did 
> reformate and rreinstall things. I wish I knew now what I did not when I got 
> the lap top. I love the mac now but feel awkward about this password thing.
> Lovette
> 
> On 2011-12-06, at 12:58 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
> 
>> Hi, lovette,
>> 
>> I'd advise a system restore. if the seller has provided you with the 
>> recovery software for the machine (OS X and the ilife system, etc) then 
>> you're good to go.
>> 
>> I advise this for two reasons. 1: data protection 2: a clean installation is 
>> much better than an nstall where settings have been changed. I'd be happy to 
>> advise.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:17, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He 
>>> said he cleared it all.  
>>> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I 
>>> cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't 
>>> know.
>>> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the 
>>> neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine.
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Lovette
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>> Mr. L. Alexander.
>> Free Macs For The Blind.
>> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
>> Direct line: 07936 877500
>> 
>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working 
>> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
>> 
>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
>> 
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Re: finding ways around

[Lovette Yewchan]

Unfortunately I do not have any softwre or backup. He apparently did reformate 
and rreinstall things. I wish I knew now what I did not when I got the lap top. 
I love the mac now but feel awkward about this password thing.
Lovette

On 2011-12-06, at 12:58 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> Hi, lovette,
> 
> I'd advise a system restore. if the seller has provided you with the recovery 
> software for the machine (OS X and the ilife system, etc) then you're good to 
> go.
> 
> I advise this for two reasons. 1: data protection 2: a clean installation is 
> much better than an nstall where settings have been changed. I'd be happy to 
> advise.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:17, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He 
>> said he cleared it all.  
>> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I 
>> cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't 
>> know.
>> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the 
>> neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine.
>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Lovette
>> 
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> 
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> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
> 
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> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
> 
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Re: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes

[Sarah Alawami]

What happens when you connect the phone to the mac and iTunes? it should just 
come up with no problems.
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:

> No problem.  Then, I need to work it from the Mac side.  Any ideas as to how 
> to get the iPhone to communicate with the Mac?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 
> At 09:25 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:
>> Hello Sarah & everybody
>> 
>> That's totally correct. Discussing the Apple Windows apps is off topic for 
>> this group. Sorry Matthew, but we have to be strict on this.
>> 
>> Lynne
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:14, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>> I would write to the techno chat list as we only discuss mac operation 
>> systems here.
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

[Lewis Alexander]

sarah you're an angel. bless you.

just the person to put a smile on my face lol.

wading my way through a parts list lol.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Set it up at http://twitter.com. and use yorufukurou. It should be straight 
> forward from there. Read the tips and set up your notifications from 
> http://twitter.com.
> 
> I have 3 twitter accounts, actually 4 and I use them all.
> 
> Sarah Alawami
> 
> If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
> http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. 
> If you need to contact me my info is below.
> MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com
> website: http://music.marrie.org
> Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast
> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
> 
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
> 
>> OK this is a very stupid question from an IT technician who has never used 
>> twitter...
>> 
>> How does one go about "Twittering"?
>> 
>> does one need a bird or something like that in order to do so? lol
>> 
>> no seriously. what would be a decent, accessible app for OS X and where best 
>> to set up a twitter account? anything I need to know which might cause a 
>> problem voiceover wise?
>> 
>> as I say, I've not done this before. I tend to avoid social media as it's 
>> not my cup of tea but it would help to raise the profile of this project, 
>> etc.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Ian McNamara wrote:
>> 
>>> go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space 
>>> then the username of the person then press enter.
>>> 
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>> Mr. L. Alexander.
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>> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
>> Direct line: 07936 877500
>> 
>> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working 
>> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
>> 
>> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
>> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
>> 
>> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to 
>> help anybody disabled with anything Apple!
>> http://www.mac-access.net
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Re: contacting YoruFukurou devs.

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah.

akihiro@gmail.com yoru.fuku...@gmail.com

Take care.
On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Anyone have a contact address?  only thing I can find is their twitter feed.
> Dónal Fitzpatrick
> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
> 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

[Sarah Alawami]

Set it up at http://twitter.com. and use yorufukurou. It should be straight 
forward from there. Read the tips and set up your notifications from 
http://twitter.com.

I have 3 twitter accounts, actually 4 and I use them all.

Sarah Alawami

If you  need an edit  done on a small project go to 
http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. 
If you need to contact me my info is below.
MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com
website: http://music.marrie.org
Podcast: http://tffp.marrie.org/podcast
youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125

On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> OK this is a very stupid question from an IT technician who has never used 
> twitter...
> 
> How does one go about "Twittering"?
> 
> does one need a bird or something like that in order to do so? lol
> 
> no seriously. what would be a decent, accessible app for OS X and where best 
> to set up a twitter account? anything I need to know which might cause a 
> problem voiceover wise?
> 
> as I say, I've not done this before. I tend to avoid social media as it's not 
> my cup of tea but it would help to raise the profile of this project, etc.
> 
> lew
> 
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Ian McNamara wrote:
> 
>> go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space 
>> then the username of the person then press enter.
>> 
>> Ian McNamara
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> Mr. L. Alexander.
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> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net
> Direct line: 07936 877500
> 
> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working 
> apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE!
> 
> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a 
> copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch.
> 
> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help 
> anybody disabled with anything Apple!
> http://www.mac-access.net
> 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

[Sarah Alawami]

go to the drawer and hit following status once you find the user that is. Now 
just hit follow.

or start a new tweet and type follow @username

for example follow @marrie1
On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Now I have a question about this software, how do you "Follow" a user from 
> within the software?
> 
> 
> On 07/12/2011, at 3:58 AM, Ian McNamara wrote:
> 
>> ianmcnamara
> 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

[Lewis Alexander]

OK this is a very stupid question from an IT technician who has never used 
twitter...

How does one go about "Twittering"?

does one need a bird or something like that in order to do so? lol

no seriously. what would be a decent, accessible app for OS X and where best to 
set up a twitter account? anything I need to know which might cause a problem 
voiceover wise?

as I say, I've not done this before. I tend to avoid social media as it's not 
my cup of tea but it would help to raise the profile of this project, etc.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 17:31, Ian McNamara wrote:

> go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space then 
> the username of the person then press enter.
> 
> Ian McNamara
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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go as if your sending a new tweet then type the word follow then a space then 
the username of the person then press enter.

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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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Now I have a question about this software, how do you "Follow" a user from 
within the software?


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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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Hi done it thanks for that yep it's working a treat for me now like normal.

my twitter username is ianmcnamara if any one wants to follow me.
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Facebook chat instructions wasReading Chat HIstory in adium

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Deb!
This should be what you need to do to get Facebook chatting!
hth Colin
Qapla!
1. go to facebook.com and go to your account!
2. open account settings and select change user name [ even if you do not have 
one]
3. Facebook should give you some options and just after them will be a more 
link select it!
4. Now after the options Facebook gives you [I did not  like the suggestions 
for me] there is a edit box where you can put your own name!
There is a see if name is available button after you put your choice, if it is 
available you can have it!
If not try another or add a number to the end! [ it might help]
5. When your happy come out of Facebook and open Adium!
6. In Adium on your contacts window open vo+m and go to the file menu!
7. Scroll down to add new account sub menu and arrow right, go down to Jabber 
and select it!
8. In the new account window is where you'll find those tabs, the first one 
should be selected just scroll past until you get to where you put your new 
user name!
When you've entered it the next field is your Facebook password!
9. After filling those in go back to the options tab select and scroll to where 
you put the server name [ as you correctly said ] chat.facebook.com and enter 
it!
10. go to register new account button and press it!
And you should be done! :]
On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:11, Deb Lewis wrote:

> based on the time stamp, I think I discovered this at just about the time you 
> were writing. Never occurred to me to click on that Unknown button. It's 
> absolutely fabulous. 
> Thanks so much!!
> 
> deb
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Deb,
>> 
>> As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as 
>> HTML.  After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire history.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Deb Lewis 
>> To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>> Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium
>> 
>> 
>> Hello:
>> Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is 
>> working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if 
>> i've missed something important. It's not in the window where the live chat 
>> is occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the menus 
>> including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If anyone could 
>> unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!!
>> 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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Hi Ian:

1.  Open the application;
2.  go to preferences;
3.  In the toolbar select "notifications"
4.  ensure the "enable growl notification" tickbox is unchecked.

cheers.

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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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so what do we need to disable and where do we go?"
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RE: the I-phone 4 s

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Yes, they changed nothing but the size of the camera lens on the iphone4s
Everything else is the same as for as the shell is concerned.


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Subject: the i-phone 4 s

does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Sorry Deb, I hit send there before I'd finished the message.  what I was trying 
to say was that I hadn't got Growl installed, but would disable the 
notification anyway.  Seems to have done the trick so cheers.
On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:10, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> I don't have growl installed..
> On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:07, Deb Lewis wrote:
> 
>> There was a tech support note from Yoru about disabling growl notifications 
>> if you hadn't updated both programs. 
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Dónal and all,
>>> I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets 
>>> and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App 
>>> Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version 
>>> recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly 
>>> over here.
>>> Best,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 Just updated to the latest 2.67 build.  I'm noticing that when I'm working 
 on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to 
 the YoruFukurou application.  In other words, whilst sending this message, 
 several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou 
 several times.  
 
 Cheers. 
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Re: Reading Chat HIstory in adium

[Deb Lewis]

based on the time stamp, I think I discovered this at just about the time you 
were writing. Never occurred to me to click on that Unknown button. It's 
absolutely fabulous. 
Thanks so much!!

deb
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> Hi Deb,
> 
> As you explore the live chat window you'll notice an item identified as HTML. 
>  After interacting with that item, you can peruse the entire history.
> 
> HTH.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Deb Lewis 
>  To: mac-access@mac-access.net 
>  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>  Subject: Reading Chat HIstory in adium
> 
> 
>  Hello:
>  Would appreciate some help with adium and VO. I'm doing IRC and all is 
> working well except that I occasionally need to read the chat history if i've 
> missed something important. It's not in the window where the live chat is 
> occurring and i can't find it anywhere. Have looked through the menus 
> including all the events and I can find no evidence of it. If anyone could 
> unravel this mystery I'd be so appreciative. Thanks!!
> 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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I don't have growl installed..
On 6 Dec 2011, at 14:07, Deb Lewis wrote:

> There was a tech support note from Yoru about disabling growl notifications 
> if you hadn't updated both programs. 
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
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>> Hi Dónal and all,
>> I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets 
>> and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App 
>> Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version 
>> recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly 
>> over here.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just updated to the latest 2.67 build.  I'm noticing that when I'm working 
>>> on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the 
>>> YoruFukurou application.  In other words, whilst sending this message, 
>>> several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou 
>>> several times.  
>>> 
>>> Cheers. 
>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

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There was a tech support note from Yoru about disabling growl notifications if 
you hadn't updated both programs. 
On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:01 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Dónal and all,
> I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets 
> and DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App 
> Store to make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version 
> recently as well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly 
> over here.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just updated to the latest 2.67 build.  I'm noticing that when I'm working 
>> on something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the 
>> YoruFukurou application.  In other words, whilst sending this message, 
>> several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou 
>> several times.  
>> 
>> Cheers. 
>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
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RE: the i-phone 4 s

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HI Michael yes indeed it does!

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does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 
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the i-phone 4 s

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does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 
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volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is 
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RE: Reading out characters

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Hi, it is in the rotor it needs to be set to char . If you need to know how
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Hello all,

Sometimes when reading an article I want toknow how a word is spelled. What
are the steps for getting voice over to read out each character, please?

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RE: iTether

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Well, what would be nice is to make it so you could download it if you JB
your device. I know they have other apps that will do the same but it would
not hurt! 


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Hello Saraah

Yes, so I gather. Sorry everybody; I was way behind on email.

Lynne

On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:13, Sarah Alawami wrote:

No it got pulled from all the apple app stores. We  even in the us don't
have access to it. I just contacted he app developer and he said there's no
way to download it anymore. What a shame.
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Re: contacting YoruFukurou devs.

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hi sent them a tweet and told them.

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Re: contacting YoruFukurou devs.

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Hi!

As far as I know, they've still got that one. Asking them a few days ago 
yielded the same address as I gave you for directly contacting them, so I hope 
you get a response.

regards,
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> Thanks Nick, I did try their twitter feed but got nothing back.  Will try the 
> gmail address. 
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Thanks Nick, I did try their twitter feed but got nothing back.  Will try the 
gmail address. 
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Hi Dónal

You can try using yoru.fuku...@gmail.com or contact them by Twitter using 
@YoruFukurou

I've found they're not always as responsive to either of these methods, but 
they usually tend to listen anyway.

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Re: update to yarror.

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ok that rules that out then might try the app store verssion.
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Re: update to yarror.

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Hi Ian,

NO I'm on Lion.

Dónal
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> Hi i'm having the same problem as donnol donol are you using lion because if 
> you are still on sno leperd like me that could be the issue.
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Hi i'm having the same problem as donnol donol are you using lion because if 
you are still on sno leperd like me that could be the issue.

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RE: Reading out characters

[David Griffith]

Pressing Vo w once will read a word.
Pressing Vo W twice will spell the word
Pressing VO W   three time will spell phonetically.

Of course in an edit field, providing you have quick nav turned off you can
simply use right and left cursor keys..

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Subject: Reading out characters

Hello all,

Sometimes when reading an article I want toknow how a word is spelled. What
are the steps for getting voice over to read out each character, please?

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RE: Bad-Elf

[Bubba]

Well, there is a way to close it and get to the options without closing
Navigan and the the running of it slower and more slugfest than on the
iphone4s is due to the fact that the iphone4s has a much better processer
and other hardware. I use it on my iphone3gs and it runs just fine if I only
run navigan and nothing else in the background. This is because nothing else
is really using processer and memory other than normal phone operation and
Vo. Yes accessibility is sort of in the beholder of the device or whatever!
But for most there is a accessibility problem with navigon  I use it just
fine myself and really have no difficulty with it ! But I know of lots of
other that is having terrible problems with it and accessibility ! I would
say this is because of their ability to use technology and having a short
fuse! But there is some accessibility problems. This is my thoughts and
opinion and that only! Now they say to get to the options is to click on the
speed dial on the device and it will bring up the options. I have not yet
tried this as I have not had to use the options during the navigation and
when I get to my destination I just hit the home key and then bring up the
app switcher and close it out this is not hard at all an my preferred way.
Yes you can do it your way you talked about and nothing wrong with that. I
prefer the other way myself. Also there is unable graphic at the top left
hand corner that looks like a window sort of my wife says and I can get to
it with a few tries it don't say anything or really make any sound other
than sort of a bonking sound and then you can double tap on it and it will
bring up some options and one of them is to exit. But it is just easier to
close the app totally out. Now since there is no easy way to get to options
this does make a accessibility problem but nothing that cannot be worked
around. But like I say this is my Opinion and my only. Other thinks like you
but not many that there is no accessibility problems and the majority of the
blind thinks it stinks and have reverted back to the old one if they still
had it till the accessibility problems are fixed, while a few are like me
and say there is accessibility problems but easily worked around. JMO !
 

Bubba
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Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Bad-Elf

Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior
post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0
is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version.  While its true
that its no longer possible to cancel a route or change the speed profile
while navigating without closing the app (a situation that I presume is
unique to voiceOver dependent users), the trade-off is that GPS data such as
velocity and coordinates have been rendered more easily readable.

Thanks to Sarah, I discovered that Navigon loads in less than half the time
on my 4S than on her iPhone 4.  Most likely related to the load time
disparity is the fact that in rather extensive testing now, I've observed no
voiceOver sluggishness whatsoever.

Note that it is not necessary to remove Navigon (or any app for that matter)
from the app switcher in order to close it.  This can also be accomplished
by holding down the power button until the shutdown dialog appears and then
pressing and holding home until a little beep is emitted.

Best regards.
Geoff


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>I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from
> accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to
> be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your
> preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to
> access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do 
> is
> close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher.  HTH and JMT
>
>
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> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bad-Elf
>
> Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully
> someone  one else will like the app.
>
> good luck with using your gps cradel.
> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much Sarah!  I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but
> I'll definitely check again.  It has to be an App that stores its maps on
> the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi.
>>
>> Desi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>
>>> I am, and i use  it. I hear they are aware of the vo s

Re: YoruFukurou: don't update.

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Dónal and all,
I haven't noticed this at all. I've updated to 2.67 and had many new tweets and 
DMs come in, with no unusual switches of focus. I'd also check the App Store to 
make sure Growl gets updated, as they just released a new version recently as 
well. I"m not sure what to suggest, but it's working perfectly over here.
Best,
Zack.
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> Hi all,
> 
> Just updated to the latest 2.67 build.  I'm noticing that when I'm working on 
> something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the 
> YoruFukurou application.  In other words, whilst sending this message, 
> several tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou 
> several times.  
> 
> Cheers. 
> Dónal Fitzpatrick
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[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Hi all,

Just updated to the latest 2.67 build.  I'm noticing that when I'm working on 
something else, as soon as a new tweet comes in focus is switched to the 
YoruFukurou application.  In other words, whilst sending this message, several 
tweets have come in and I've been switched back to YoruFukurou several times.  

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Re: Connecting iPhone to PC with iTunes

[Matthew Chao]

No problem.  Then, I need to work it from the Mac side.  Any ideas as 
to how to get the iPhone to communicate with the Mac?  Thannks.


Matthew Chao

At 09:25 PM 12/5/2011, you wrote:

Hello Sarah & everybody

That's totally correct. Discussing the Apple Windows apps is off 
topic for this group. Sorry Matthew, but we have to be strict on this.


Lynne

On 6 Dec 2011, at 01:14, Sarah Alawami wrote:

I would write to the techno chat list as we only discuss mac 
operation systems here.


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Re: finding ways around

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Hi, lovette,

I'd advise a system restore. if the seller has provided you with the recovery 
software for the machine (OS X and the ilife system, etc) then you're good to 
go.

I advise this for two reasons. 1: data protection 2: a clean installation is 
much better than an nstall where settings have been changed. I'd be happy to 
advise.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 05:17, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

> Hi there. The mac I have is one that was purchased from an acquaintance. He 
> said he cleared it all.  
> for me and reloaded what I needed but he says there is no password yet I 
> cannot make changes then lock to revent changes without a password I don't 
> know.
> I have trouble with my y fi sometimes going to another network in the 
> neighbourhood and I have to keep bringing it back to mine.
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance.
> Lovette
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Re: VMWare Fusion, anybody want help with download?

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As I said, please note... I am not fully versed in windows Virtual machine 
systems. only hard systems. so there will be a significant change in the way 
that accessibility could be available through voiceover. bearing in mind that 
installing windows itself on a hardware system does require either sighted 
assistance or technical knowledge to create an unattended instance.

Please don't feel I'm putting people off here on this nor put me down. that's 
not what I need this week.

sorry.

lew

On 6 Dec 2011, at 00:56, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

> Hello David
> 
> Setting up the VM is on topic. Where it goes off topic is once Windows is 
> running, and the configuration. I hope that helps. I also agree totally with 
> you; Lew's information is a little flawed. It's perfectly possible, even 
> simple, for a blind person to create and maintain a virtual machines. That 
> includes the installation of anything from 98 upwards.
> 
> Lynne
> 
> On 27 Nov 2011, at 21:12, David Griffith wrote:
> 
> I am not sure that it is on topic for this list but it is perfectly possible
> to install without sighted help windows 7  with vm fusion and get up and
> running with NVDA. Probably a  topic for the tech list though.
> 
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