Re: Playing MP3 and other audio in Safari.

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
Yeah there's a way to just download, press option enter on the link of the file 
that you want to download and it will just download and not play. If you want 
to confirm that it is downloading, You may go to your home folder with command 
shift H and tab to Downloads and press command o. If the file says the name and 
then .download, It is still downloading, but if it says the actual extension, 
you're good. You can also interact with the group of each individual file, as 
each download Has its own group, by going to the downloads window in Safari, I 
don't remember the command offhand, I think it is command option l, And 
interacting with the group. This will only work for large files, but when you 
do this, a progress bar will be displayed indicating the percent that the file 
is downloading at. As for the timeline thing, I think it's another bug with 
voiceover.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 At the minute my setup is configured to download and play MP3 and other 
 supported media inside the Safari browser.  Is there a way to stop this and 
 have the files just download?
 
 A second thing I'm noticing is that for some reason when I play music in 
 Safari and interact with the timeline to scroll through an MP3 or other audio 
 quite quickly, changing the timeline with VO doesn't result in the 
 appropriate skipping forward or backwards through the file.  Has anyone else 
 encountered this?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dónal
 Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing, 
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin, 
 Dublin 9, Ireland
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Re: Playing MP3 and other audio in Safari.

2013-05-01 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
That's the one JOsh I knew I'd done the option-enter thing before just couldn't 
remember it.

Cheers.
On 1 May 2013, at 11:58, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah there's a way to just download, press option enter on the link of the 
 file that you want to download and it will just download and not play. If you 
 want to confirm that it is downloading, You may go to your home folder with 
 command shift H and tab to Downloads and press command o. If the file says 
 the name and then .download, It is still downloading, but if it says the 
 actual extension, you're good. You can also interact with the group of each 
 individual file, as each download Has its own group, by going to the 
 downloads window in Safari, I don't remember the command offhand, I think it 
 is command option l, And interacting with the group. This will only work for 
 large files, but when you do this, a progress bar will be displayed 
 indicating the percent that the file is downloading at. As for the timeline 
 thing, I think it's another bug with voiceover.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 At the minute my setup is configured to download and play MP3 and other 
 supported media inside the Safari browser.  Is there a way to stop this and 
 have the files just download?
 
 A second thing I'm noticing is that for some reason when I play music in 
 Safari and interact with the timeline to scroll through an MP3 or other 
 audio quite quickly, changing the timeline with VO doesn't result in the 
 appropriate skipping forward or backwards through the file.  Has anyone else 
 encountered this?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dónal
 Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing, 
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin, 
 Dublin 9, Ireland
 Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929
 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
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using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread William Lomas
hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need the 
add on, chrome box?
thanks to all, Will

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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
I used to use it, but it tends to mess up voiceover so I just disabled it.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 6:58 AM, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need the 
 add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Re: Playing MP3 and other audio in Safari.

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
No problem glad I could help :)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 7:01 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:

 That's the one JOsh I knew I'd done the option-enter thing before just 
 couldn't remember it.
 
 Cheers.
 On 1 May 2013, at 11:58, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah there's a way to just download, press option enter on the link of the 
 file that you want to download and it will just download and not play. If 
 you want to confirm that it is downloading, You may go to your home folder 
 with command shift H and tab to Downloads and press command o. If the file 
 says the name and then .download, It is still downloading, but if it says 
 the actual extension, you're good. You can also interact with the group of 
 each individual file, as each download Has its own group, by going to the 
 downloads window in Safari, I don't remember the command offhand, I think it 
 is command option l, And interacting with the group. This will only work for 
 large files, but when you do this, a progress bar will be displayed 
 indicating the percent that the file is downloading at. As for the timeline 
 thing, I think it's another bug with voiceover.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 At the minute my setup is configured to download and play MP3 and other 
 supported media inside the Safari browser.  Is there a way to stop this and 
 have the files just download?
 
 A second thing I'm noticing is that for some reason when I play music in 
 Safari and interact with the timeline to scroll through an MP3 or other 
 audio quite quickly, changing the timeline with VO doesn't result in the 
 appropriate skipping forward or backwards through the file.  Has anyone 
 else encountered this?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dónal
 Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing, 
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin, 
 Dublin 9, Ireland
 Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929
 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie
 
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RE: Help selecting text on websites

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari announcing
text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines and
words selected from the Web rota.
There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it is
not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue not
confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered this
problem.
Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.

I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have  not
altered anything else in verbosity.

David Griffith.



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 01 May 2013 11:01
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Help selecting text on websites

Ok.
The reason you did not have to use option is probably I think because you
have quick nav turned on. This is fine but it limits the flexibility of the
text you select to words. I sometimes want to select characters using the
arrow keys, and more importantly as I am hearing impaired carefully and
slowly review  the text.
Quick nav is great but I think you would get even more single hand
functionality with numpad commander which I use all the time. You need a
keyboard with a numpad keypad for this though. I think it is possible to
transform a laptop keyboard to emulate a numpad keyboard but I think you are
probably better off sticking to Quick nav on laptops.
Re sticky keys announcement have you tried adjusting Voiceover verbosity? I
have found Voiceover far less annoying with its announcements since I
reduced verbosity from high to medium. As far as I can see Voiceover still
announces everything critical but stops making annoying and unnecessary
announcements like new line doing say all read out and so on. It might be
worth a try if you have not adjusted this setting.

David Griffith



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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
Sent: 01 May 2013 10:14
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites

Hi David,

Thanks for this.  I added lines to the rotor.  When I tried Shift down this
selected the line but VO didn't announce anything so I'm not keen on that
method.

I tried the interact with text, press VO Enter thing and this worked fine
but I found I could select stuff with just the arrow keys and don't have to
press Option and Command with it.

I'd really like to use theVO Shift C thing because I think that would be the
most efficient way but I have a problem with that at the moment.  Because
I'm using Sticky Keys, whenever I press VO Shift C the last phrase VO said
is sticky key x off.  I wonder if I can stop VO announcing the status of
the sticky keys?  Their status is indicated by sounds which I'm used to so
would like to stop VO announcing them if possible but I don't know if this
is possible?  Any ideas?

THanks,
Catherine
On 4/30/13, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Firstly I would, as suggested on this list a couple of weeks ago, 
 amend your Voiceover settings in Voiceover Utility  to include lines 
 under your web rota.
 You will find this under Web and Web rota. Just check the lines 
 element in the table of elements to include in the rota.
 This will add the capacity to select lines of text in Safari.
 As far as I recall this is announced correctly by Voiceover but I am 
 on my windows laptop at the moment so will have to check later.

 An alternative method of selecting words is slightly more convoluted 
 but definitely works and is read appropriately.
 1,. Interact with Text.
 2. Press VO enter.
 3. Then select the words with shift option and cursor keys.
 4. Press VO enter again to end selection. Press Command C to copy.
 5.  Uninteract with Text to return to normal web page reading.


 Also remember the standby VO Shit C to copy the last phrase spoken to 
 the clipboard. This is a rapid and efficient way of copying a 
 paragraph of text or other page element.

 David Griffith



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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.

Original message:
hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
need the add on, chrome box?

thanks to all, Will



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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
yes you should get crome vox.

On 5/1/13, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few
 outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an
 unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so
 there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will

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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At least 
from what I have seen of it.

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 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
 issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
 voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to tell 
 what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
 the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Verbosity Re: Help selecting text on websites

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
What are the differences in the verbosity settings? I've had the Mac a while 
now but never been able to figure that.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I was on my Mac this afternoon and I had no problem with Safari announcing
 text that I had selected no matter what method I used including lines and
 words selected from the Web rota.
 There appears to be a problem then with some Voiceover settings where it is
 not announcing all selected text. This appears however to be an issue not
 confined to you as others on this list appear also to have encountered this
 problem.
 Very peculiar as I cannot reproduce this difficulty at all.
 
 I am using voiceover with medium verbosity. As far as I am aware I have  not
 altered anything else in verbosity.
 
 David Griffith.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 01 May 2013 11:01
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: Help selecting text on websites
 
 Ok.
 The reason you did not have to use option is probably I think because you
 have quick nav turned on. This is fine but it limits the flexibility of the
 text you select to words. I sometimes want to select characters using the
 arrow keys, and more importantly as I am hearing impaired carefully and
 slowly review  the text.
 Quick nav is great but I think you would get even more single hand
 functionality with numpad commander which I use all the time. You need a
 keyboard with a numpad keypad for this though. I think it is possible to
 transform a laptop keyboard to emulate a numpad keyboard but I think you are
 probably better off sticking to Quick nav on laptops.
 Re sticky keys announcement have you tried adjusting Voiceover verbosity? I
 have found Voiceover far less annoying with its announcements since I
 reduced verbosity from high to medium. As far as I can see Voiceover still
 announces everything critical but stops making annoying and unnecessary
 announcements like new line doing say all read out and so on. It might be
 worth a try if you have not adjusted this setting.
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
 Sent: 01 May 2013 10:14
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Help selecting text on websites
 
 Hi David,
 
 Thanks for this.  I added lines to the rotor.  When I tried Shift down this
 selected the line but VO didn't announce anything so I'm not keen on that
 method.
 
 I tried the interact with text, press VO Enter thing and this worked fine
 but I found I could select stuff with just the arrow keys and don't have to
 press Option and Command with it.
 
 I'd really like to use theVO Shift C thing because I think that would be the
 most efficient way but I have a problem with that at the moment.  Because
 I'm using Sticky Keys, whenever I press VO Shift C the last phrase VO said
 is sticky key x off.  I wonder if I can stop VO announcing the status of
 the sticky keys?  Their status is indicated by sounds which I'm used to so
 would like to stop VO announcing them if possible but I don't know if this
 is possible?  Any ideas?
 
 THanks,
 Catherine
 On 4/30/13, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Firstly I would, as suggested on this list a couple of weeks ago, 
 amend your Voiceover settings in Voiceover Utility  to include lines 
 under your web rota.
 You will find this under Web and Web rota. Just check the lines 
 element in the table of elements to include in the rota.
 This will add the capacity to select lines of text in Safari.
 As far as I recall this is announced correctly by Voiceover but I am 
 on my windows laptop at the moment so will have to check later.
 
 An alternative method of selecting words is slightly more convoluted 
 but definitely works and is read appropriately.
 1,. Interact with Text.
 2. Press VO enter.
 3. Then select the words with shift option and cursor keys.
 4. Press VO enter again to end selection. Press Command C to copy.
 5.  Uninteract with Text to return to normal web page reading.
 
 
 Also remember the standby VO Shit C to copy the last phrase spoken to 
 the clipboard. This is a rapid and efficient way of copying a 
 paragraph of text or other page element.
 
 David Griffith
 
 
 
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Re: Playing MP3 and other audio in Safari.

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
Yes the time line problem it is a bug in voiceover.

On 5/1/13, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 No problem glad I could help :)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 1, 2013, at 7:01 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 wrote:

 That's the one JOsh I knew I'd done the option-enter thing before just
 couldn't remember it.

 Cheers.
 On 1 May 2013, at 11:58, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah there's a way to just download, press option enter on the link of
 the file that you want to download and it will just download and not
 play. If you want to confirm that it is downloading, You may go to your
 home folder with command shift H and tab to Downloads and press command
 o. If the file says the name and then .download, It is still downloading,
 but if it says the actual extension, you're good. You can also interact
 with the group of each individual file, as each download Has its own
 group, by going to the downloads window in Safari, I don't remember the
 command offhand, I think it is command option l, And interacting with the
 group. This will only work for large files, but when you do this, a
 progress bar will be displayed indicating the percent that the file is
 downloading at. As for the timeline thing, I think it's another bug with
 voiceover.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 1, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 At the minute my setup is configured to download and play MP3 and other
 supported media inside the Safari browser.  Is there a way to stop this
 and have the files just download?

 A second thing I'm noticing is that for some reason when I play music in
 Safari and interact with the timeline to scroll through an MP3 or other
 audio quite quickly, changing the timeline with VO doesn't result in the
 appropriate skipping forward or backwards through the file.  Has anyone
 else encountered this?

 Cheers,

 Dónal
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 School of Computing,
 Dublin City University,
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  just 
need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as the 
combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine shortly.

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At least 
 from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
 issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
 voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to tell 
 what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
 the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
I use crome vox too with google crome it works.

On 5/1/13, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you
 just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as
 the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine
 shortly.

 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At
 least from what I have seen of it.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding
 issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link,
 voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to
 tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will

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Re: App store on the mac

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
Yes if the mac is refurbished that could be the problem and the apps
thatare on their were not purchased with you're account.

On 5/1/13, Matthew C mcarell...@comcast.net wrote:
 Did you get it refurbished? I ask this because I got mine that way. It had
 a
 couple apps on it like garage band. I am not able to update those because
 they were not purchased with my Id. Just a thought.

 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Cathy
 Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:48 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: App store on the mac

 hello,

 I have been getting messages telling me that updates are available. when I
 click on update it says that updates are available for another account and
 I
 should sign in to that account. however I see no way to do this? I have
 gone
 to the apple store using safari but still can not find a log on field.
 why I would not get an automatic update is confusing to me. it sounds as
 though the mac is saying that I have two accounts, but when I check my
 users
 and groups it only has one user?

 any ideas out there as to what is going on?

 thanks, Cathy

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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  
 just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as 
 the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At least 
 from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
 issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
 voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to tell 
 what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
 the add on, chrome box?
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess with 
it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a dialogue to 
update chrome vox. 

There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in general. 
I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.

Tae care. 
On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  
 just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as 
 the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
 least from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
 issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
 voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to 
 tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
 the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
Can you send me the info off list? Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess with 
 it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a dialogue to 
 update chrome vox. 
 
 There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
 general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
 
 Tae care. 
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you  
 just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode as 
 the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine 
 shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
 least from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few outstanding 
 issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an unlabeled link, 
 voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so there is no way to 
 tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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disappointed kindle

2013-05-01 Thread William Lomas
hi all the new kindle app supposedly fully accessible to the blind? yet 
when i go in to it and swipe down 2 fingers i get the before you go menu come 
up and not the book reading as advertised
1 star rating from me at this point
sorely disappointed
double tapping brings up the menu but this is not the before you go menu where 
you rate a novel etc. but sounds amazing at least an alternative to ibooks 

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Re: disappointed kindle

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
I will have to test out this new update and then see what improvements
they made.

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   hi all the new kindle app supposedly fully accessible to the blind? yet
 when i go in to it and swipe down 2 fingers i get the before you go menu
 come up and not the book reading as advertised
 1 star rating from me at this point
 sorely disappointed
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Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.

I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
celebration.
It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
advance.
In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
exiting the book reading window within the App.
A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
Screen. b

It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
merited.
If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
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Re: disappointed kindle

2013-05-01 Thread cait furness
I just went and got the app myself as I'm curious and am an avid reader too.  I 
also don't mind fiddling with things a bit to make them work.
We'll see what happens.
Cait

On 2013-05-01, at 10:58 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will have to test out this new update and then see what improvements
 they made.
 
 On 5/1/13, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi all the new kindle app supposedly fully accessible to the blind? yet
 when i go in to it and swipe down 2 fingers i get the before you go menu
 come up and not the book reading as advertised
 1 star rating from me at this point
 sorely disappointed
 double tapping brings up the menu but this is not the before you go menu
 where you rate a novel etc. but sounds amazing at least an alternative to
 ibooks
 
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Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for
menu.
It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You
simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
I now think that the app is very good.
The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has
not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It
appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the
Kindle iOS app.


David Griffith 

-Original Message-
From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.

I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
celebration.
It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
advance.
In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
exiting the book reading window within the App.
A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
Screen. b

It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
merited.
If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
David Griffith

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Re: disappointed kindle

2013-05-01 Thread Mary Otten
The kindle app works really well on my iPhone. two finger flick down when 
you're in a book reads continuously and flawlessly from one page to the next. 
Haven't checked personally, but I understand from somebody else that it also 
works well with braille displays. It is certainly late in coming. But thanks, 
Amazon, for finally doing the right thing. 
Mary

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
yes it is accessible you just have to flick two fingers down and then
it will read the book.

On 5/1/13, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I access the store to buy books from within the application instructions
 tell me to flick down not up to comments reading

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 1 May 2013, at 04:03 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to
 voiceover.

 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a
 major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle
 App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are
 reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover
 which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b

 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading
 pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread matthew stubbs
when in the  book  tap two  times  and  a menu appears  if  you  go  to  the 
far left  by swipping  left  theres  a  home  button 
On 1 May 2013, at 16:03, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Will
When flick down I get before you go screen 

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 May 2013, at 04:27 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for
 menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You
 simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has
 not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It
 appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the
 Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] 
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Mary Otten
No, you can't access the kindle store from the app. Apple does not allow that. 
Mary

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Jane
No, but that's Apple's fault. No one except Apple's own iBooks is allowed to 
let you acess their store from within their app You have to go to the Amazon 
web site and by the book, then tell the Kindle app to sync the book. Like I 
say, don't blame Amazon for this, blame Apple and get them to change their 
policy. :)

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can I access the store to buy books from within the application instructions 
 tell me to flick down not up to comments reading
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 1 May 2013, at 04:03 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I wonder if book bub will work now.  this is a way of getting free books, most 
of which work via kindle. some of thick are in the epub format.  I guess I'll 
have to try it.

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, but that's Apple's fault. No one except Apple's own iBooks is allowed to 
 let you acess their store from within their app You have to go to the Amazon 
 web site and by the book, then tell the Kindle app to sync the book. Like I 
 say, don't blame Amazon for this, blame Apple and get them to change their 
 policy. :)
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can I access the store to buy books from within the application instructions 
 tell me to flick down not up to comments reading
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 1 May 2013, at 04:03 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
lol. it is my replacement screen reader if you will for chrome. I only use 
voice over if chrome vox choaks, which is rare. 

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bryan Jones openses...@me.com wrote:

 You do not need to have the Chromevox extension installed in order to use 
 Chrome, but I find it useful as a fallback screen reader when I encounter 
 something that causes VO to choke.
 
 Bryan
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 6:58 AM, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i need 
 the add on, chrome box?
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Will
so how can i read samples this way

On 1 May 2013, at 16:34, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, but that's Apple's fault. No one except Apple's own iBooks is allowed to 
 let you acess their store from within their app You have to go to the Amazon 
 web site and by the book, then tell the Kindle app to sync the book. Like I 
 say, don't blame Amazon for this, blame Apple and get them to change their 
 policy. :)
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can I access the store to buy books from within the application instructions 
 tell me to flick down not up to comments reading
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 1 May 2013, at 04:03 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Will
so what site do i go to 

On 1 May 2013, at 16:33, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, you can't access the kindle store from the app. Apple does not allow 
 that. 
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
If you need more info contact me off list as this list is not for google from 
but for mac questions, at least that's how I read and interpret the rules, but 
here's more info on the google access group.

http://groups.google.com/group/axs-chrome-discuss

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
 
 - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: using google chrome
 
 
 Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
 with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
 dialogue to update chrome vox.
 
 There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
 general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
 
 Tae care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you 
  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode 
 as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine 
 shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
 least from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
 outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
 unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
 there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Esther
Hi David,

I was able to do a few really hard double tap and hold pass-thru gestures on 
the center of the screen.  Then I heard VoiceOver say menu on. At that  point 
you get access to the controls at the top and bottom of the screen that you 
describe.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On May 1, 2013, at 5:03 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Mary Otten
You go to the amazon website and search in the Kindle store for whatever 
book(s) you want just like you'd do other amazon searches in whatever other 
departments. You have an amazon account, right?

Mary

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Will
yeh can i use the amazon app 
or would i have to go to safari?
ibooks store so convenient so i may to be honest just stay with i books as like 
the store access direct from the app 

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 You go to the amazon website and search in the Kindle store for whatever 
 book(s) you want just like you'd do other amazon searches in whatever other 
 departments. You have an amazon account, right?
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Jane
That's one flaw, yes. There's no tutorial with accessibility features for the 
app. There's a guide out there, and I am trying to get it to download. I just 
have to remember how to buy it. It's free, at least.

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 11:27 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for
 menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You
 simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has
 not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It
 appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the
 Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] 
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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RE: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
The problem with that strategy is that the amount of books available from
iBooks or even any other Ebook supplier is tiny compared to the Kindle which
continues to dominate the EBook market.

David Griffith 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Will
Sent: 01 May 2013 16:56
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

yeh can i use the amazon app
or would i have to go to safari?
ibooks store so convenient so i may to be honest just stay with i books as
like the store access direct from the app 

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 You go to the amazon website and search in the Kindle store for whatever
book(s) you want just like you'd do other amazon searches in whatever other
departments. You have an amazon account, right?
 
 Mary
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Will
can't get books read though david smile it just brings up the before you go 
heading and a page to rate the book i am on. vo says menu off double tap to use 
menu and two finger flick down to read continuously i do that and nothing 
happened try a reinstall as well

On 1 May 2013, at 17:11, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 The problem with that strategy is that the amount of books available from
 iBooks or even any other Ebook supplier is tiny compared to the Kindle which
 continues to dominate the EBook market.
 
 David Griffith 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Will
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:56
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 yeh can i use the amazon app
 or would i have to go to safari?
 ibooks store so convenient so i may to be honest just stay with i books as
 like the store access direct from the app 
 
 On 1 May 2013, at 16:54, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You go to the amazon website and search in the Kindle store for whatever
 book(s) you want just like you'd do other amazon searches in whatever other
 departments. You have an amazon account, right?
 
 Mary
 
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 motte...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: disappointed kindle

2013-05-01 Thread Jane
It always says menu off--which doesn't take long at all. Then the two-finger 
swipe-down works perfectly for me.

To get out of a book and into another one, you double-tap with one finger. 
VoiceOver will say Menu On, and then you flick left or right and double-tap on 
what you want.

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just went and got the app myself as I'm curious and am an avid reader too.  
 I also don't mind fiddling with things a bit to make them work.
 We'll see what happens.
 Cait
 
 On 2013-05-01, at 10:58 AM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I will have to test out this new update and then see what improvements
 they made.
 
 On 5/1/13, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all the new kindle app supposedly fully accessible to the blind? yet
 when i go in to it and swipe down 2 fingers i get the before you go menu
 come up and not the book reading as advertised
 1 star rating from me at this point
 sorely disappointed
 double tapping brings up the menu but this is not the before you go menu
 where you rate a novel etc. but sounds amazing at least an alternative to
 ibooks
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Esther
Did you try the dictionary?  I had a little bit of difficulty selecting the 
word with a double tap and hold, because the focus seemed to select an adjacent 
word.  But you can hear leftmost selection edge, adjustable and rightmost 
selection edge, adjustable. If you set your rotor to words, you can move these 
to the word that you want.  I had to wait for the dictionary to download the 
first time I used this, but the definitions show up at the bottom of the screen 
for the selected word.

Esther

On May 1, 2013, at 5:35 AM, Jane wrote:

 That's one flaw, yes. There's no tutorial with accessibility features for the 
 app. There's a guide out there, and I am trying to get it to download. I just 
 have to remember how to buy it. It's free, at least.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:27 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for
 menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You
 simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has
 not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It
 appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the
 Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com] 
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Jane
Hi.

To get out of a book, double-tap with one finger. VoiceOver will say Menu 
on.then flick left and right with one finger through the menu choices and tap 
on the one you want.

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 11:03 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Zachary Kline
To be more specific, double tap on home, and you will leave the book

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 To get out of a book, double-tap with one finger. VoiceOver will say Menu 
 on.then flick left and right with one finger through the menu choices and tap 
 on the one you want.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:03 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
 start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
 advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
 exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
 from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
 window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
 by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
 Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
 could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
 Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
 merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
 to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Guides to purchasing, downloading and reading with VO in the new Kindle IOS App

2013-05-01 Thread Bryan Jones
Here is a link to the free Kindle book titled Kindle for IOS Accessibility 
Gestures: Quick Reference Guide.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CL5NIGU/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk

Here is a link to Amazon's webpage explaining how to purchase Kindle titles and 
how to get those titles into your Kindle IOS App:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200298480

HTH,
Bryan

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Mary Otten
You can buy kindle books using the amazon mobile app. Or you can use the amazon 
site from Safari or whatever browser you use on your Mac or pc. I prefer the 
main site, because I like to see more reviews at once, and I don't find the 
main site problematic after years and years of using it. 

Mary

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Daniela Rubio
It is indeed a good news. I just found out about it this morning. I have not 
tested it, but I will certainly will!
Thanks!
Best

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El 01/05/2013, a las 17:03, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com escribió:

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread chris h (sky)

Hello all
great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I 
can try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an 
avid reader anyway. Cheers!


On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:

As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for
menu.
It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You
simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
I now think that the app is very good.
The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has
not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It
appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the
Kindle iOS app.


David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.

I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
celebration.
It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
In this sense it resembles ibooks.
  The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
advance.
In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
exiting the book reading window within the App.
A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
Screen. b

It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
merited.
If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
David Griffith

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RE: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as Sherlock
Holmes etc. 
Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

Hello all
great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I can
try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an avid
reader anyway. Cheers!

On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:
 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap 
 for menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. 
 You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which 
 speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine 
 under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access 
 to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app.


 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.

 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for 
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have 
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards
swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
   The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a 
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way 
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the 
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to 
 be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the 
 Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return 
 to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you
can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover 
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the 
 iOS Home Screen. b

 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration 
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the 
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Wonder if they are working on accessibility for other platforms as 
well, in particular android. I hope so.

Original message:

As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap for
menu.
It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. You
simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
I now think that the app is very good.
The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which speech has
not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine under voiceover. It
appears therefore that there is universal access to Text to Speech under the
Kindle iOS app.




David Griffith



-Original Message-
From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.



Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.



I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
celebration.
It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have Voiceover
start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards swipe.
In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a major
advance.
In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way of
exiting the book reading window within the App.
A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the Kindle App
from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to be put into a
window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the Book you are reading
by percentage. There is also a button to return to reading the book and a
Home button to return to your library where you can download your books.
It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover which
could return you to this screen without having to exit to the iOS Home
Screen. b



It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration seems
merited.
If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the reading pane
to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
David Griffith



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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread cait furness
Do you have to go to the store on the amazon site, or can you download the 
books from the app itself?  and, if you do have to go to the store on the 
amazon site, will your books show up in the app?
thanks,
Cait

On 2013-05-01, at 2:08 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as Sherlock
 Holmes etc. 
 Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
 Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Hello all
 great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I can
 try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an avid
 reader anyway. Cheers!
 
 On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:
 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap 
 for menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. 
 You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which 
 speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine 
 under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access 
 to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for 
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have 
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards
 swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
  The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a 
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way 
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the 
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to 
 be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the 
 Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return 
 to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you
 can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover 
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the 
 iOS Home Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration 
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the 
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Anne Robertson
This is great! As soon as I logged in, I saw all the books we've bought in 
Kindle format.

By the way, Bad Science has been available from Kobo for some time so I've 
already been able to read it.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Arrigo
Most likely, at least for purchasing the books, you will have to go to 
the site. Apple's policy is, if you want to sell something within your 
application, you have to go through our system so we get our 30 percent 
of the purchase. If you decide you don't want to do that, you cannot 
provide a way to direct users to another place to make in app purchases 
within the app itself.

Original message:
Do you have to go to the store on the amazon site, or can you download 
the books from the app itself?  and, if you do have to go to the store 
on the amazon site, will your books show up in the app?

thanks,
Cait



On 2013-05-01, at 2:08 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:



There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as Sherlock
Holmes etc.
Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site.



David Griffith



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.



Hello all
great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I can
try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an avid
reader anyway. Cheers!



On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:

As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap
for menu.
It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls.
You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
I now think that the app is very good.
The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which
speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine
under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access
to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app.




David Griffith



-Original Message-
From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.



Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.



I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
celebration.
It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have
Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards

swipe.

In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a
major advance.
In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way
of exiting the book reading window within the App.
A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the
Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to
be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the
Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return
to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you

can download your books.

It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover
which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the
iOS Home Screen. b



It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration
seems merited.
If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the
reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
David Griffith



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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Jane
You have to go to the Amazon site, but it's easy to search for books It's also 
easy to just want to buy them. Not so good when you are on a tight budget. I 
firmly make myself add paid books to my wishlist for eventual buying--like The 
Hunger Games trilogy which is $18 and some change.

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 2:42 PM, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have to go to the store on the amazon site, or can you download the 
 books from the app itself?  and, if you do have to go to the store on the 
 amazon site, will your books show up in the app?
 thanks,
 Cait
 
 On 2013-05-01, at 2:08 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as Sherlock
 Holmes etc. 
 Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
 Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Hello all
 great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I can
 try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an avid
 reader anyway. Cheers!
 
 On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:
 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap 
 for menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. 
 You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which 
 speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine 
 under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access 
 to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for 
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have 
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards
 swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a 
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way 
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the 
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to 
 be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the 
 Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return 
 to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you
 can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover 
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the 
 iOS Home Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration 
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the 
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread William Lomas
hi to all why please can i not read the text of a book with a 2 finger 
swipe down on the screen? i get the go to menu up 
this is frustrating me 

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kindle newspapers

2013-05-01 Thread William Lomas
hi to all can i use then this kindle for IOS to read newspapers?

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Re: why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread Zachary Kline
I don't know, the two finger swipe works for me. I am confused, the app seems 
fine here.

Sent from my iPhone

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 swipe down on the screen? i get the go to menu up 
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Re: why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread Will
I uninstalled it from the iPhone running latest ios 6 and reinstalled it. maybe 
works better on iPad 
i have a mini 

On 1 May 2013, at 21:27, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

 I don't know, the two finger swipe works for me. I am confused, the app seems 
 fine here.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 1:18 PM, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   hi to all why please can i not read the text of a book with a 2 finger 
 swipe down on the screen? i get the go to menu up 
 this is frustrating me 
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Danny Noonan
The other point that stops in app linking to products is that apple take their 
30% but you have to sell at the same price through the app. Apple greed 
punishes the user yet again. 
Danny. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 02/05/2013, at 5:41 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 Most likely, at least for purchasing the books, you will have to go to the 
 site. Apple's policy is, if you want to sell something within your 
 application, you have to go through our system so we get our 30 percent of 
 the purchase. If you decide you don't want to do that, you cannot provide a 
 way to direct users to another place to make in app purchases within the app 
 itself.
 Original message:
 Do you have to go to the store on the amazon site, or can you download the 
 books from the app itself?  and, if you do have to go to the store on the 
 amazon site, will your books show up in the app?
 thanks,
 Cait
 
 On 2013-05-01, at 2:08 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as Sherlock
 Holmes etc.
 Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
 Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Hello all
 great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out there I can
 try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I am not an avid
 reader anyway. Cheers!
 
 On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:
 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double tap
 for menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls.
 You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which
 speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine
 under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access
 to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards
 swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear to
 be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of the
 Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to return
 to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library where you
 can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the
 iOS Home Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread Phil Halton
bring up the menu with a one finger double tap, and then choose return to 
book.


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Subject: Re: why this not work please for reading books


I don't know, the two finger swipe works for me. I am confused, the app 
seems fine here.


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   hi to all why please can i not read the text of a book with a 2 finger 
swipe down on the screen? i get the go to menu up

this is frustrating me

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RE: why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
Try a two finger up swipe  from the centre of the screen - this also worked
for me.

David Griffith 

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Sent: 01 May 2013 21:19
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: why this not work please for reading books

hi to all why please can i not read the text of a book with a 2
finger swipe down on the screen? i get the go to menu up this is frustrating
me 

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Re: why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread Will
i had to drag my 2 fingers down so working now smile a simple quick flick down 
not work. also if you double tap and click go to you can get to table contents 
or beginning

On 1 May 2013, at 21:44, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Try a two finger up swipe  from the centre of the screen - this also worked
 for me.
 
 David Griffith 
 
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas
 Sent: 01 May 2013 21:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: why this not work please for reading books
 
   hi to all why please can i not read the text of a book with a 2
 finger swipe down on the screen? i get the go to menu up this is frustrating
 me 
 
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Re: why this not work please for reading books

2013-05-01 Thread Mary Otten
It doesn't work because your two finger swipe is being interpreted by the app 
as a sinble finger double tap.

Mary
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Selecting text on a web page in safari

2013-05-01 Thread Margaret
Can someone tell me the best way to select a block of text on a web page using 
safari   I've got a mac book pro using lion. 



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RE: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Paula Hobley
Haha Jane, I totally agree. I can at least now read all of my myriod of
kindle books on my I devices.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Jane
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 5:39 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

You have to go to the Amazon site, but it's easy to search for books It's
also easy to just want to buy them. Not so good when you are on a tight
budget. I firmly make myself add paid books to my wishlist for eventual
buying--like The Hunger Games trilogy which is $18 and some change.

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 2:42 PM, cait furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have to go to the store on the amazon site, or can you download the
books from the app itself?  and, if you do have to go to the store on the
amazon site, will your books show up in the app?
 thanks,
 Cait
 
 On 2013-05-01, at 2:08 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:
 
 There are loads of free Kindle books. The usual classic such as 
 Sherlock Holmes etc.
 Just go to the Kindle store on the Amazon web site.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
 Sent: 01 May 2013 19:00
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Hello all
 great news about the Kindle iOS app but is there a free book out 
 there I can try? Don't want to buy a Kindle book to start with plus I 
 am not an avid reader anyway. Cheers!
 
 On 01/05/2013 16:27, David Griffith wrote:
 As an update on my last post I did not hear the prompt for double 
 tap for menu.
 It is not then necessary to go to the Home screen to get to controls. 
 You simply double tap anywhere on the reading pane to bring up the menu.
 I now think that the app is very good.
 The even better news is that I loaded Bad Science - book in which 
 speech has not been enabled on the physical Kindle and it read fine 
 under voiceover. It appears therefore that there is universal access 
 to Text to Speech under the Kindle iOS app.
 
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Griffith [mailto:d.griff...@btinternet.com]
 Sent: 01 May 2013 16:04
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to
voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for 
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have 
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger 
 upwards
 swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a 
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way 
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the 
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear 
 to be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of 
 the Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to 
 return to reading the book and a Home button to return to your 
 library where you
 can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover 
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the 
 iOS Home Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration 
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the 
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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Re: kindle newspapers

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
Yes you can you just have to buy them from amazon.

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   hi to all can i use then this kindle for IOS to read newspapers?

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RE: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Paula Hobley
You can actually get Book Bub to email you the deals of the day.

Hope this helps

Paula


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 1:42 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

I wonder if book bub will work now.  this is a way of getting free books,
most of which work via kindle. some of thick are in the epub format.  I
guess I'll have to try it.

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, but that's Apple's fault. No one except Apple's own iBooks is 
 allowed to let you acess their store from within their app You have to 
 go to the Amazon web site and by the book, then tell the Kindle app to 
 sync the book. Like I say, don't blame Amazon for this, blame Apple 
 and get them to change their policy. :)
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can I access the store to buy books from within the application 
 instructions tell me to flick down not up to comments reading
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 1 May 2013, at 04:03 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to
voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for 
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have 
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards
swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a 
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way 
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the 
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear 
 to be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of 
 the Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to 
 return to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library
where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover 
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the 
 iOS Home Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration 
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the 
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
 David Griffith
 
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RE: Selecting text on a web page in safari

2013-05-01 Thread David Griffith
There has been a lot of discussion on this over the last few weeks.
You may want to check the archive.
Basically  there are various methods including 

1. Shift VO C will copy the last phrase spoken to clipboard. This is often
the easiest way.

2  If you  Add lines to your web rota in Voiceover Utility under Web and web
rota, then You can , using quick nav with the rota turned to lines just
press shift and down arrow to select lines of text ready for copying and
pasting.

3. You can do something similar with words selected in your web rota.
4.  Another method involves interacting with text - press Vo enter and start
selecting the text you want to copy. Press VO enter at end to mark the end
of selected text press command c to copy ,  and then un-interact to return
to normal web browsing. 
5. Press command  A and command c to copy all the content of the web page to
Text edit where you can edit the page with normal commands.

Hopefully one of these techniques will achieve what you want.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Margaret
Sent: 01 May 2013 22:16
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Selecting text on a web page in safari 

Can someone tell me the best way to select a block of text on a web page
using safari   I've got a mac book pro using lion. 



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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
I do apologize, I just figured that might be a bit…  off topic?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
 
 - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: using google chrome
 
 
 Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
 with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
 dialogue to update chrome vox.
 
 There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
 general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
 
 Tae care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. you 
  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky mode 
 as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update mine 
 shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
 least from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
 outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
 unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
 there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.

2013-05-01 Thread Jane
Right now it doesn't include Kindle deals. How do I add that to my subscription?

Jane




On May 1, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Paula Hobley paula.hob...@bigpond.com wrote:

 You can actually get Book Bub to email you the deals of the day.
 
 Hope this helps
 
 Paula
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2013 1:42 AM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Kindle now accessible on iOS.
 
 I wonder if book bub will work now.  this is a way of getting free books,
 most of which work via kindle. some of thick are in the epub format.  I
 guess I'll have to try it.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Jane juanitatig...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No, but that's Apple's fault. No one except Apple's own iBooks is 
 allowed to let you acess their store from within their app You have to 
 go to the Amazon web site and by the book, then tell the Kindle app to 
 sync the book. Like I say, don't blame Amazon for this, blame Apple 
 and get them to change their policy. :)
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can I access the store to buy books from within the application 
 instructions tell me to flick down not up to comments reading
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 1 May 2013, at 04:03 PM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 Kindle has announced that it has made the iOS app accessible to
 voiceover.
 
 I have just tried the app and I think there may be limited cause for 
 celebration.
 It is certainly possible to now download a kindle book and have 
 Voiceover start reading the text of the book with a  2 finger upwards
 swipe.
 In this sense it resembles ibooks.
 The fact that  Voiceover can read the Kindle text now is certainly a 
 major advance.
 In one sense the app appears clunky though. I could find no easy way 
 of exiting the book reading window within the App.
 A work around appears to press the Home Key and then re enter the 
 Kindle App from the Home Screen. On re-entering the app you appear 
 to be put into a window which allows bookmarking and navigation of 
 the Book you are reading by percentage. There is also a button to 
 return to reading the book and a Home button to return to your library
 where you can download your books.
 It would be far easier if there was a button accessible to Voiceover 
 which could return you to this screen without having to exit to the 
 iOS Home Screen. b
 
 It will need a little more experimentation but limited celebration 
 seems merited.
 If anybody else  finds a way around the awkward moving from the 
 reading pane to the app Home screen and book controls please post.
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Deleting on the Kindle app

2013-05-01 Thread Shelly
The Kindle app is wonderful as it is opened up a whole new world of 
periodicals. I do however, have one question. How can I delete?

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Re: Deleting on the Kindle app

2013-05-01 Thread Isaac Hebert
What do you want to delete books?

On 5/1/13, Shelly sblomst...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 The Kindle app is wonderful as it is opened up a whole new world of
 periodicals. I do however, have one question. How can I delete?

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Re: Deleting on the Kindle app

2013-05-01 Thread Mary Otten

To delete a book, just put focus on it with VO and then flick down like you 
would to delete a mail message and double tap.

Mary

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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It is.  according to the rules, and I follow the rules to the letter, and I 
mean to the letter.  That's why I was going to email info about the other list 
off list lol! Hehahah.  Oh well.

Take care.
On May 1, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do apologize, I just figured that might be a bit…  off topic?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
 
 - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: using google chrome
 
 
 Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
 with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
 dialogue to update chrome vox.
 
 There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
 general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
 
 Tae care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. 
 you  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky 
 mode as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update 
 mine shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
 least from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
 outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
 unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
 there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not 
 read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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Re: using google chrome

2013-05-01 Thread Josh Gregory
Figured as much. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is.  according to the rules, and I follow the rules to the letter, and I 
 mean to the letter.  That's why I was going to email info about the other 
 list off list lol! Hehahah.  Oh well.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I do apologize, I just figured that might be a bit…  off topic?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Please keep this info on list. Others want to know about it too.
 
 - Original Message - From: Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 10:49 AM
 Subject: Re: using google chrome
 
 
 Can you send me the info off list? Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would start by reading the very good interactive tutorial that comess 
 with it. . You simply just launch chrome and it should come up with a 
 dialogue to update chrome vox.
 
 There is a dedicated list serve for google chrome and google access in 
 general. I'm on it, and there are a ton of people who are happy to help.
 
 Tae care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I see, I apologize then. How does it work? And how do you update it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chromvox works quite well with google crome. I use it constantly on the 
 websites that never work with safari.  and combo boxes are supported. 
 you  just need to know how to use the from vox modifier. Stay in sticky 
 mode as the combos are much easier to enter.  I actually need to update 
 mine shortly.
 
 Take care.
 On May 1, 2013, at 7:02 AM, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's better than chromevox, which won't support combo boxes at all. At 
 least from what I have seen of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 1, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Chrome will work with voiceover pretty well. There are a few 
 outstanding issues, the main one I can think of is, if you come to an 
 unlabeled link, voiceover does not provide the URL for the link, so 
 there is no way to tell what it does. Also, some list boxes do not 
 read.
 Original message:
 hi i see google chrome works ok it seems under mountain lino so do i 
 need the add on, chrome box?
 thanks to all, Will
 
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