Re: Voice Dream and Drop Box

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Open it option or save option in Dropbox and then you get options for the 
different places one of which hopefully is Voice Dream.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Harrison" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:31 AM
Subject: Voice Dream and Drop Box




Hi listers,
Many thanks to those who responded to my initial question.
I now have a folder of a daisy audio book in my drop box folder, but 
stupid me cannot work out how to get it from there into voice dream.


Can someone kindly supply me with step by step?

Ian
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Connecting a Mobile Broadband to Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have my home broadband connected to my Mac Book Air.  However, when I am 
out and about I want to avail of a mobile wi-fi which I carry around with 
me.  As a beginner, I cannot remember how I inserted my home broadband.  I 
can find this if I go in to Apple Menue and then the Menu Extras but what do 
I do to get the mac recognising the wi-fi and then I want to put in my new 
broadband.  In other words I am lookingfor all the wi-fis around me and then 
my mobile one will be there as I will have it turned on. 


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Re: Connecting a Mobile Broadband to Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Yes put you all out of your misery and state that you have answered my 
question just fine.  I am now sorted.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Connecting a Mobile Broadband to Mac


I think it's a mobile hotspot, hence the instructions. I guess we'll see if 
that helped, or not


Take care to all and be blessed.
On Apr 11, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Chris Apple boy  
wrote:


I was going to answer this one but wasn't sure if they were asking about 
connecting to mobile broadband via a dongle.


Regards Chris

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On 11/04/2014 19:43, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Find the wifi signle name if it is set to show up.  under the network 
part of the extras menu, then enter in your info when it asks for it. I 
do this so few times I forget as well.
On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


I have my home broadband connected to my Mac Book Air.  However, when I 
am out and about I want to avail of a mobile wi-fi which I carry around 
with me.  As a beginner, I cannot remember how I inserted my home 
broadband.  I can find this if I go in to Apple Menue and then the Menu 
Extras but what do I do to get the mac recognising the wi-fi and then I 
want to put in my new broadband.  In other words I am lookingfor all 
the wi-fis around me and then my mobile one will be there as I will 
have it turned on.

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Re: Dock oddities

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Chris, not everyone has your knowledge, hence the list.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Apple boy" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: Dock oddities


I'm confused.com. If I want an app in the dock all I do is highlight it in 
the applications folder and press command-control-shift-t.


Regards Chris

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On 12/04/2014 13:44, William Lomas wrote:

hi to all

in mac osx 10.9 we cannot seem to simply put an app on the dock directly 
from the apps folder, without having to open it first, to right click it, 
to tell it to stay on dock.

are we missing something?
regards
William


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Re: bbc iplayer radio app

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I continue to get to BBC radio four fired the iPlayer when I find Radio and 
double tap and then get a message it has its own new app I then double tap on 
that and the app opens it is unfortunate that the way the radio channels are 
arranged there are near the bottom and are in the shape of an upward arc our 
bridge radio four is way over to the right and the only way I can access this 
is by pushing the screen search speak towards the left so when you are on radio 
three if you do just a two finger movement towards the left and that pushes 
that part of the screen over to the left I have to say it's a bit fiddly and 
having a little revision does help however as a great archers lover it's worth 
the bother

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> On 23 Apr 2014, at 10:14, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> Have any of you had success with the new bbc iplayer radio app for IOS 
> devices? I used to use the standard bbc iplayer app which supported both 
> radio and TV and that worked fine with VoiceOver. However when I tried that a 
> couple of days ago to access a radio 4 show it told me that radio is now 
> accessed via the new bbc iplayer radio app, and is no longer supported by the 
> standard bbc iplayer app. 
> 
> SO I installed the bbc iplayer radio app on my iPhone 3GS running the latest 
> IOS 6 but could not work out how to access radio 4. The app displayed several 
> buttons for different radio stations, which did not include radio 4, plus a 
> message to scroll for more stations. I tried all the gestures to do the 
> scroll I could think of but none of them worked. 
> 
> Many thanks for any tips. For me the new app is much worse than the old app! 
> 
> Best regards
> 
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RE: bbc iplayer radio app

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Well Paul, glad I could be of some help.  It is far from ideal I agree but
at least until the BBC decides to make it more accessable at least you can
get Radio 4, I love Radio 4.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hopewell
Sent: 23 April 2014 19:11
To: mac-access
Subject: Re: bbc iplayer radio app

Hello Eleanor, 
Many thanks for the below. What you describe works OK for me. As you say it
is rather tricky and non-obvious but as a fellow Archers enthusiast it will
be worth the trouble!
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell
On 23 Apr 2014, at 10:19, Eleanor Martha Burke
 wrote:

> I continue to get to BBC radio four fired the iPlayer when I find Radio
and double tap and then get a message it has its own new app I then double
tap on that and the app opens it is unfortunate that the way the radio
channels are arranged there are near the bottom and are in the shape of an
upward arc our bridge radio four is way over to the right and the only way I
can access this is by pushing the screen search speak towards the left so
when you are on radio three if you do just a two finger movement towards the
left and that pushes that part of the screen over to the left I have to say
it's a bit fiddly and having a little revision does help however as a great
archers lover it's worth the bother
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Apr 2014, at 10:14, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> Have any of you had success with the new bbc iplayer radio app for IOS
devices? I used to use the standard bbc iplayer app which supported both
radio and TV and that worked fine with VoiceOver. However when I tried that
a couple of days ago to access a radio 4 show it told me that radio is now
accessed via the new bbc iplayer radio app, and is no longer supported by
the standard bbc iplayer app. 
>> 
>> SO I installed the bbc iplayer radio app on my iPhone 3GS running the
latest IOS 6 but could not work out how to access radio 4. The app displayed
several buttons for different radio stations, which did not include radio 4,
plus a message to scroll for more stations. I tried all the gestures to do
the scroll I could think of but none of them worked. 
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips. For me the new app is much worse than the old
app! 
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
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Re: Nicecast and Voiceover.

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

what is it does it do

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Apr 2014, at 21:54, Chris Apple boy  wrote:
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> Knowing Rogue Amoeba a resounding yes. They have a pleasant reputation for 
> making all their Mac applications totally accessible.
> 
> Regards Chris
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>> On 23/04/2014 21:37, Jim Noseworthy wrote:
>> Hi Gang:
>> 
>> Is Nicecast compatible with Voiceover?
>> 
>> Thanks all over the place.
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Re: siri

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I did not manage to pair my phone with it

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> On 26 Apr 2014, at 11:29, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> I have Type 2 go on my Mac.  I seem to be having problems getting it to work. 
>  I paired my phone to it but it keeps disconnecting.I am not sure how to use 
> the AP. Can you only use it for typing, can you navigate round the iPhone 
> screen and select things.   Judy  
>> On 26 Apr 2014, at 00:25, Juaanita Marttin  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have a Mac, you can purchase the Type2phone app and use it to enter 
>> text into your phone.  It is about $5 so it’s much more cost effective than 
>> an external keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks for your help will try tomorrow if I can get some help putting in 
>>> the password.  Am finding typing on iPhone hard, think I need an external 
>>> keyboard.
>>> Judy
 On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:42, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
 
 First we will reset you're network settings. Here is how we are going to 
 do it. First we will go to settings general reset and then choose reset 
 network to reset the network settings. Now we are going to reconnect 
 you're phone to the wifi network. To do this first go to settings general 
 wifi and then select you're wifi network. Next after selecting the network 
 if there is a password you have to enter enter it here. After entering the 
 password then double tap join and then you're phone will be connected to 
 you're network.
 
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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Judy Pryor  
> wrote:
> 
> the cell data is turned on.  the data roaming and hotspots are turned 
> off. EE said something about resetting but would have to put in the wifi 
> settings again. Will need help there as am very new to using an iPhone.  
> Judy   
>> On 25 Apr 2014, at 21:42, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried turning on cell data?
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Judy Pryor  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> if I turn wifi off Siri does not seem to work on my EE server.  I want 
>>> to be able to use Siri when I am away from home.  
>>> thank you Judy
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RE: Type2Go was siri

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I did but will try again.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Juanita Martin
Sent: 26 April 2014 14:40
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Type2Go was siri

Make sure that blue tooth is on under system preferences.  Also  make sure
it is connected under blue tooth under settings on the phone.  Turn Vo off
on the Mac and 
turn Quick nav on or off on the keyboard just to make sure the app is
working.  To click on something, you press the up and down arrows together
on the keyboard.  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Judy Pryor 
wrote:
> 
> I have Type 2 go on my Mac.  I seem to be having problems getting it to
work.  I paired my phone to it but it keeps disconnecting.I am not sure how
to use the AP. Can you only use it for typing, can you navigate round the
iPhone screen and select things.   Judy  
>> On 26 Apr 2014, at 00:25, Juaanita Marttin 
wrote:
>> 
>> If you have a Mac, you can purchase the Type2phone app and use it to
enter text into your phone.  It is about $5 so it's much more cost effective
than an external keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Judy Pryor 
wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks for your help will try tomorrow if I can get some help putting in
the password.  Am finding typing on iPhone hard, think I need an external
keyboard.
>>> Judy
 On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:42, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
 
 First we will reset you're network settings. Here is how we are going
to do it. First we will go to settings general reset and then choose reset
network to reset the network settings. Now we are going to reconnect you're
phone to the wifi network. To do this first go to settings general wifi and
then select you're wifi network. Next after selecting the network if there
is a password you have to enter enter it here. After entering the password
then double tap join and then you're phone will be connected to you're
network.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Judy Pryor 
wrote:
> I have Type 2 go on my Mac.  I seem to be having problems getting it
to work.  I paired my phone to it but it keeps disconnecting.I am not sure
how to use the AP. Can you only use it for typing, can you navigate round
the iPhone screen and select things.   Judy  
> On 26 Apr 2014, at 00:25, Juaanita Marttin 
wrote:
> 
>> If you have a Mac, you can purchase the Type2phone app and use it to
enter text into your phone.  It is about $5 so it's much more cost effective
than an external keyboard.
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Judy Pryor 
wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks for your help will try tomorrow if I can get some help putting in
the password.  Am finding typing on iPhone hard, think I need an external
keyboard.
>>> Judy
 On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:42, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
 
 First we will reset you're network settings. Here is how we are going
to do it. First we will go to settings general reset and then choose reset
network to reset the network settings. Now we are going to reconnect you're
phone to the wifi network. To do this first go to settings general wifi and
then select you're wifi network. Next after selecting the network if there
is a password you have to enter enter it here. After entering the password
then double tap join and then you're phone will be connected to you're
network.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Judy Pryor 
wrote:
> 
> the cell data is turned on.  the data roaming and hotspots are turned
off. EE said something about resetting but would have to put in the wifi
settings again. Will need help there as am very new to using an iPhone.
Judy   
>> On 25 Apr 2014, at 21:42, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried turning on cell data?
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Judy Pryor
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> if I turn wifi off Siri does not seem to work on my EE server.  I
want to be able to use Siri when I am away from home.  
>>> thank you Judy
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RE: Skype is audio only

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

It is there Chris, just explore the window.

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Sent: 29 April 2014 21:52
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Subject: Skype is audio only

Hi all,

I can't seem to get my Skype on my iPhone to work with video.  I only ever
get the option to have an audio call.

At some point in the past I've definitely had video so don't know why it
isn't working now.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chris 
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Re: prizmo

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

you could consider getting the jarrah off reader from Sam Jewell it costs 
around £30

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> On 3 May 2014, at 14:25, Glenn  wrote:
> 
> Judy,
> In Prysmo, you first swipe to "quick capture" and double-tap the screen.
> Then you swipe until you get to "take picture button".
> Then make sure you are about 8 to 12 inches above the text, and double-tap 
> the screen.
> This is the only problem with Prysmo, you have to double-tap the screen.
> But the good thing is that it does not instantly take a picture, it will 
> give a series of increasing tones and when it gets to a certain pitch, it 
> snaps a picture of the text, so you have a moment to steady your camera.
> You should have it unmuted to hear the tones.
> I usually have both elbows on the table, and hold the phone with both hands 
> to keep it steady.
> HTH.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:35 AM
> Subject: Re: prizmo
> 
> 
> I don't use prismo, in fact I don't use any ocr apps on ios as of yet, but 
> can you not tell it to take a picture of the documetn once ocr is on in the 
> app and see if the camera works?
> 
> Take care.c
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 19:35, Glenn  wrote:
>> 
>> Judy,
>> The camera will tell you when you are pointing at a face.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>> 
>> 
>> I am totally blind so would not know if the camera had worked or not.
>> Judy
>>> On 2 May 2014, at 22:25, Juanita Martin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You could check out the camera by taking a selfie
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 2, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Judy Pryor 
 wrote:
 
 I am using an iPhone and the OCR text orientation  is on.  I am 
 wondering
 if the camera is alright its a second hand phone and have had a few
 problems with it.  Judy
> On 2 May 2014, at 14:19, Juanita Martin 
> wrote:
> 
> If you're using it on the IPhone, make sure that text orientation is on
> under OCR.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Judy Pryor 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I cannot get Prizmo to recognise any text.  A friend downloaded it for
>> me and took a photo and it was blank. I tried to day but no luck. 
>> Are
>> there settings in Prizmo and camera that should be checked or
>> unchecked.  Can anyone give me advice on how to use Prizmo correctly.
>> Many thanks
>> Judy
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Re: prizmo

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

what the phone are facing you and the home button at the bottom of that lever 
on top left side forward towards you and it will unmute to test to put it into 
new to push it away from you and you will feel the phone vibrates then bullied 
to talk to you again

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 May 2014, at 18:22, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> I thought I did that, it kept saying left or right a bit or away.  Could feel 
> the phone vibrate but no other noise as such so how do you unmute it as I 
> thought it was unmuted as I am running voiceover. Judy
>> On 3 May 2014, at 14:25, Glenn  wrote:
>> 
>> Judy,
>> In Prysmo, you first swipe to "quick capture" and double-tap the screen.
>> Then you swipe until you get to "take picture button".
>> Then make sure you are about 8 to 12 inches above the text, and double-tap 
>> the screen.
>> This is the only problem with Prysmo, you have to double-tap the screen.
>> But the good thing is that it does not instantly take a picture, it will 
>> give a series of increasing tones and when it gets to a certain pitch, it 
>> snaps a picture of the text, so you have a moment to steady your camera.
>> You should have it unmuted to hear the tones.
>> I usually have both elbows on the table, and hold the phone with both hands 
>> to keep it steady.
>> HTH.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 1:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>> 
>> 
>> I don't use prismo, in fact I don't use any ocr apps on ios as of yet, but 
>> can you not tell it to take a picture of the documetn once ocr is on in the 
>> app and see if the camera works?
>> 
>> Take care.c
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 19:35, Glenn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Judy,
>>> The camera will tell you when you are pointing at a face.
>>> Glenn
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Judy Pryor" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: prizmo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am totally blind so would not know if the camera had worked or not.
>>> Judy
 On 2 May 2014, at 22:25, Juanita Martin 
 wrote:
 
 You could check out the camera by taking a selfie
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 2, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Judy Pryor 
> wrote:
> 
> I am using an iPhone and the OCR text orientation  is on.  I am 
> wondering
> if the camera is alright its a second hand phone and have had a few
> problems with it.  Judy
>> On 2 May 2014, at 14:19, Juanita Martin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you're using it on the IPhone, make sure that text orientation is on
>> under OCR.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Judy Pryor 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I cannot get Prizmo to recognise any text.  A friend downloaded it for
>>> me and took a photo and it was blank. I tried to day but no luck. 
>>> Are
>>> there settings in Prizmo and camera that should be checked or
>>> unchecked.  Can anyone give me advice on how to use Prizmo correctly.
>>> Many thanks
>>> Judy
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RE: how to view direct messages in night owl'

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I thought  might have a look at night owl but I would not have the time to
go through everything here on your blog, is it under podcasts perhaps?

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 03 May 2014 01:21
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: how to view direct messages in night owl'

Hello. Just cmd right arrow until you get to the dms tab. YOu will need to
use vo f2 to read the tab you are in. I did a detailed podcast on night owl
at http://tffppodcast.com/listen how ever I'm not sure if I called nit night
owl, nightowl or yorufukurou so search for all 3.

Take care and hope this and the podcast both helps.

> On May 2, 2014, at 16:36, Michael Marshall 
wrote:
> 
> hey,
> I received a direct message but I'm having trouble finding where to go to
Buick in NightOwl.
> can anyone help me out on this?
> thanks for any help
> 
> Michael
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Re: Be ware of the Tune-in update.

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

what does the app do

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 May 2014, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Tim, I really agree with you about Radium. I also have a Mac, and I enjoy the 
> fact that I have my favorites on my Mac, iPad, and my iPhone. Radium is a 
> great app, and they really do pay attention to accessibility related feedback.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> Radium is another radio app made by Catpig Studios. it's a paid app for the 
>> iPhone that you can also get for the Mac  (a paid app there as well but your 
>> stations can sync across) that does online radio, as well as Sirius Xm and 
>> other subscription services. They're really good about adding stations and 
>> paying attention to their user base as far as accessibility with their app 
>> goes. I love OOTunes, but the developer hasn't updated it in a while, so not 
>> sure what's up there but I'm liking Radum more and more because I can use it 
>> on both my desktop and my phone and all my favorites are right there. Not 
>> sure if you use a mac or not but the phone app is nice Take a look. Hope 
>> that helps. 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim, what is Radium? I use Tune In almost every day, so I'm sad to see that 
>>> I can't use the latest update.
>>> Laurel
 On May 7, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
 
 Looks like Radium more and more on this end, Lol. I hate they broke it. 
 Maybe they'll get it fixed but I think I'll use Radium more and more, Lol. 
> On May 7, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> 'm not surprised. Tune in seems to brake things more then they fix. Looks 
> like it's time to discuss this on applevis, again. Tune in will probably 
> have this fixed in about 4 or so months. Not hat's not an exaduration.
> 
> Take care.
>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings y'all,
>> 
>> Not sure whether this is applicable to the free version, but today's 
>> upgrade to TuneInRadio Pro 6.0 succeeded in rendering this app 
>> completely unusable on my 5S running IOS 7.1.1.  It will open and play 
>> the last station that I had on, but I can not play any other stations.  
>> I tried selecting from my list of favorites and browsing them with the 
>> same result (or lack there of).  The pass-through (doubleTapHold 
>> gesture) does not appear to expose a menu.  If there is a way to play a 
>> different station i've not yet discovered it.  I haven't tried 
>> reinstalling TuneIn because I don't want to trash my favorites.  If 
>> others are having more success with version 6, that will be my next step.
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
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Re: Screen curtain on iPhone

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how do I activate the Mac screen curtain

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> On 10 May 2014, at 15:27, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
> Last I heard, the official word from Apple Accessibility was that the IOS 
> screen curtain has no effect on battery life. BTW, though I’ve done no 
> official testing, my personal experience leads me to believe this also holds 
> true for the MacOS screen curtain on Macbooks.
> 
> Bryan
> 
>> On May 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Glenn  wrote:
>> I would think that screen curtain being on would save more battery life, as 
>> I'm sure that even when it is set to zero, display processes are still being 
>> sent to the screen, and when screen curtain is on, I'm guessing that the 
>> processes are not calculated by the processor.
>> Glenn
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Re: Need some help with iTuens libraries

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have purchased music in the UK and Ireland iStores so is there any way I can 
have music from both stores show up on my devices?

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> On 13 May 2014, at 20:22, Leedy Diane Bomar  wrote:
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> Glad your problem was solved. But, a simple solution, in future, would be: 
> open the iTunes store on your iPhone, 
> double tap More, on the bottom right of the screen, choose Purchases, then 
> Music. There will be a list of all purchases you have made. Choose the one 
> you want, double-tap and at the top of the screen, choose download all, or 
> select the specific track and download it. In the screen, with the list of 
> music, there is also a tab for "all" or "not on this iPhone"
> HTH,Diane Bomar
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> On May 12, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
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> Hi all -
> 
> I have 2 different iTunes libraries, one on my old Windows machine that I use 
> with my iPod touch, and one on this Mac that I use with my iPhone. I've just 
> bought and downloaded an album from the iTunes store on to my iPod Touch, but 
> now want to get it on to my iPhone as well. I'm not sure I'm going to be able 
> to do this very easily, but thought I'd just check to see if anybody can help 
> me out.
> 
> I'm thinking if I hook up my iPod Touch to this Mac's iTunes library, they 
> won't recognise each other, and I don't want to sync the iPod to this 
> particular library, as I will lose all the albums on there that are only on 
> the Windows computer's iTunes library. 
> 
> Unlike with purchased apps that can be downloaded over and over, it seems 
> like an album can only be downloaded once to a device, and then has to be 
> synced with an iTunes library before being able to sync it to other devices 
> already synced to that same library.
> 
> Is there anyway round this, or am I stuck? -
> 
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RE: Need some help with iTuens libraries

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Thanks Isaac.

Eleanor

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Sent: 13 May 2014 21:08
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Subject: Re: Need some help with iTuens libraries

No you are not able to do that.
isaac
isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 

On May 13, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 wrote:

> I have purchased music in the UK and Ireland iStores so is there any way I
can have music from both stores show up on my devices?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 May 2014, at 20:22, Leedy Diane Bomar 
wrote:
>> 
>> Glad your problem was solved. But, a simple solution, in future, would
be: open the iTunes store on your iPhone, 
>> double tap More, on the bottom right of the screen, choose Purchases,
then Music. There will be a list of all purchases you have made. Choose the
one you want, double-tap and at the top of the screen, choose download all,
or select the specific track and download it. In the screen, with the list
of music, there is also a tab for "all" or "not on this iPhone"
>> HTH,Diane Bomar
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 12, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Andy Collins 
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>> Hi all -
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>> I have 2 different iTunes libraries, one on my old Windows machine that I
use with my iPod touch, and one on this Mac that I use with my iPhone. I've
just bought and downloaded an album from the iTunes store on to my iPod
Touch, but now want to get it on to my iPhone as well. I'm not sure I'm
going to be able to do this very easily, but thought I'd just check to see
if anybody can help me out.
>> 
>> I'm thinking if I hook up my iPod Touch to this Mac's iTunes library,
they won't recognise each other, and I don't want to sync the iPod to this
particular library, as I will lose all the albums on there that are only on
the Windows computer's iTunes library. 
>> 
>> Unlike with purchased apps that can be downloaded over and over, it seems
like an album can only be downloaded once to a device, and then has to be
synced with an iTunes library before being able to sync it to other devices
already synced to that same library.
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>> Is there anyway round this, or am I stuck? -
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Re: An excellent audio demonstration of RiVO

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have listened also and it sounds like a lot to learn think the hand gestures 
has so much easier

> On 18 May 2014, at 23:29, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
> have just listened to the podcast in iTunes
> just googled David Woodbridge RIVO and it came up.  It was very good.  Judy
>> On 18 May 2014, at 18:33, Mark  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> Wanted to go to Podcasts and download this information that you provided.
>> When I go to podcast, I and are icy David, I get the following message.dot
>> Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
>> 
>> 
>> Any ideas on what it means?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 16, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Ein Lee  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Listen to excellent audio demonstrations of useful products from a podcast,
>> called iSee - How to use Apple Products from an Accessibility Perspective,
>> created by David Woodbridge.
>> 
>> Search for iSee David in the Podcasts app from iPhone.
>> Or visit the following link: davidwoodbr.podbean.com.
>> 
>> FYI, RiVO demonstration is posted in his podcast on May 7, 2014.
>> Thanks.
>> 
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RE: adding and removing apps from dock in maverick.

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Maybe it would have worked if you had executed the command and shift with
the right hand.  

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Ian McNamara
Sent: 22 May 2014 04:33
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: adding and removing apps from dock in maverick.

Hi all, thanks for that smiley, i've managed to do it now. Have to say in
apple's wisdom that is an odd command as all of them keys are on the left
side of the keyboard, holding control command and shift down together then
pressing the t was difficult but I sort of found the t with my write hand
and did the rest with my left.

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RE: adding and removing apps from dock in maverick.

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Actually I have given that advice as it was given to me recently by an
experienced Mac user.

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Sent: 22 May 2014 04:38
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Subject: Re: adding and removing apps from dock in maverick.

Actually i hit cmd and shift with my right and the control and t with my
left. It feels better that way. Lol 

Remember, you have 2 sets of keys with which to do the command   set with.

Take care.

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> Hi all, thanks for that smiley, i've managed to do it now. Have to say in
apple's wisdom that is an odd command as all of them keys are on the left
side of the keyboard, holding control command and shift down together then
pressing the t was difficult but I sort of found the t with my write hand
and did the rest with my left.
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RE: Olearia Daisy Book Reader

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I think it was Andy Colins actually but doubtless if it was he will post the
error message.  

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 22 May 2014 12:11
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Olearia Daisy Book Reader 

I know that somebody I think Andrew, has had problems installing the free
Olearia Daisy Book Reader.

I rarely use this on the Mac as I have various physical Daisy Readers but I
tested  Olearia   this morning on my iMac running the latest version of
Mavericks and as far as I could tell it is working perfectly well. It opened
fine and loaded a book without problem and all the normal functions seemed
unproblematic.

This is a version which had travelled through 2upgrades from my Lion to
Mavericks so may not be the latest install.

Can I suggest that (Andrew?) give more details on how they are trying to
install Olearia and detailed accounts of what error messages you are getting
and when.

An easy way to do this is to use the shift VO C  function to copy the last
phrase spoken by Voiceover to the clipboard so you can paste any error
messages directly into an email after explaining what step you have taken
just before getting this message.

>From memory there was no complicated install needed for the version of this
app I used. As far as I recall  I simply copied the Olearia.app from the dmg
file into the OS Application  folder and simply ran it from there. Is this
what you have tried to do?
Basically opening a dmg file will normally mount it on the desktop. Simply
open the virtual disc on the desktop. Select and copy the Olearia.app file.
Hit command shift A to bring up your applications folder and paste it into
there with command V.   You can then close all windows and eject the Olearia
virtual disc from your desktop with command E. That should be pretty much
all that is involved.

You can copy any daisy book onto your Mac drive to test it out. Olearia will
recognise folders with daisy books contents in them as daisy books.

A quick google search found several sources of free daisy Books to test
with.
For example.
https://code.google.com/p/android-daisy-epub-reader/wiki/SampleDAISYBooks

Regards

David Griffith


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RE: Olearia Daisy Book Reader

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

What is the best DAISY Book reader for RNIB DAISY books which works on the
Mac?

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 22 May 2014 12:11
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Olearia Daisy Book Reader 

I know that somebody I think Andrew, has had problems installing the free
Olearia Daisy Book Reader.

I rarely use this on the Mac as I have various physical Daisy Readers but I
tested  Olearia   this morning on my iMac running the latest version of
Mavericks and as far as I could tell it is working perfectly well. It opened
fine and loaded a book without problem and all the normal functions seemed
unproblematic.

This is a version which had travelled through 2upgrades from my Lion to
Mavericks so may not be the latest install.

Can I suggest that (Andrew?) give more details on how they are trying to
install Olearia and detailed accounts of what error messages you are getting
and when.

An easy way to do this is to use the shift VO C  function to copy the last
phrase spoken by Voiceover to the clipboard so you can paste any error
messages directly into an email after explaining what step you have taken
just before getting this message.

>From memory there was no complicated install needed for the version of this
app I used. As far as I recall  I simply copied the Olearia.app from the dmg
file into the OS Application  folder and simply ran it from there. Is this
what you have tried to do?
Basically opening a dmg file will normally mount it on the desktop. Simply
open the virtual disc on the desktop. Select and copy the Olearia.app file.
Hit command shift A to bring up your applications folder and paste it into
there with command V.   You can then close all windows and eject the Olearia
virtual disc from your desktop with command E. That should be pretty much
all that is involved.

You can copy any daisy book onto your Mac drive to test it out. Olearia will
recognise folders with daisy books contents in them as daisy books.

A quick google search found several sources of free daisy Books to test
with.
For example.
https://code.google.com/p/android-daisy-epub-reader/wiki/SampleDAISYBooks

Regards

David Griffith


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RE: Olearia Daisy Book Reader

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

This app is only in development then!  Is there not a version which works
and has been tested?

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: 22 May 2014 18:11
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Olearia Daisy Book Reader

Hi Andy,

I think you can also download Olearia using the public beta link from Curtin
University:
http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/
This comes as a zip file.  The code,google.com location lets you get the
source code if you want to compile it from scratch for yourself.

HTH.  Cheers,
Esther


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> Hi David and all -
> 
> David, I downloaded Olearia again just now, from code.google.com; even
though it said it was a zipped download, when I looked for Olearia in my
downloads folder, it was just there as an application, so I pasted it in to
my applications folder, and opened it. I firstly got the message that Safari
downloaded the app from code.google.com, and was asked if I wanted to open
it, so clicked on yes. The first window that comes up asks if I want Olearia
to automatically check for updates, and regardless of if I  click yes or no,
I keep getting the message:
> 
> application alert system dialog Olearia quit unexpectedly.
> 
> I can't get past this issue, so can't even test the app.
> 
> I don't understand why I don't get a dmg download, obviously if I did,
then I would follow your guidance for installing the app.
> 
> Any more ideas? -
> 
> Andy
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RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Andy I have used Audasity and Sound Flower.  There is a podcast on this on
Apple Vis and if you don't find it, I think I might have it and could put it
in my dropbox.  Another thing I did was to install a plug-in for Audasity
which allowed me to convert to MP3 files.

Eleanor

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 22 May 2014 19:31
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Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

You can use audio hijack or amadeus both of which will do what you want.

Take care.
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> Hi all -
> 
> Anybody suggest an app to create mp3 files that will use the built-in mic
on this Mac? I can use quick Time of course, but this doesn't record in mp3
-
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RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Andy, I know you are a much more experienced Mac user than me and have your
Mac a few months longer but I am wondering also as you are now having
problems with more than one app, if there is something else going on that
you are not aware of and that needs sorting.

Eleanor

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 22 May 2014 22:04
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Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

Thanks to Eleanor, I installed, or perhaps not, Audacity on this Mac, but it
doesn't open, it freezes every time I try.

All I did was open the dmg, and drop the Audacity app in my applications
folder, but when I click on it, it just stays there in the finder window,
and I have to use 'force quit' to shut it down again. I'll search out any
podcasts I can find on applevis tomorrow, but for now, I seem to be getting
stuck with all things audio! -

Andy
On 22 May 2014, at 19:34, Eleanor Martha Burke
 wrote:

> Andy I have used Audasity and Sound Flower.  There is a podcast on this on
> Apple Vis and if you don't find it, I think I might have it and could put
it
> in my dropbox.  Another thing I did was to install a plug-in for Audasity
> which allowed me to convert to MP3 files.
> 
> Eleanor
> 
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> Sent: 22 May 2014 19:31
> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac
> 
> You can use audio hijack or amadeus both of which will do what you want.
> 
> Take care.
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wrote:
> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Anybody suggest an app to create mp3 files that will use the built-in mic
> on this Mac? I can use quick Time of course, but this doesn't record in
mp3
> -
>> 
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RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have looked for the utility Clean My Mac but have not found it.

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 22 May 2014 23:12
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

I agree . I would start with having a look at repairing disk permissions and
possibly running a utility like Clean My Mac.

David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 22 May 2014 22:20
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

Andy, I know you are a much more experienced Mac user than me and have your
Mac a few months longer but I am wondering also as you are now having
problems with more than one app, if there is something else going on that
you are not aware of and that needs sorting.

Eleanor

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 22 May 2014 22:04
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

Thanks to Eleanor, I installed, or perhaps not, Audacity on this Mac, but it
doesn't open, it freezes every time I try.

All I did was open the dmg, and drop the Audacity app in my applications
folder, but when I click on it, it just stays there in the finder window,
and I have to use 'force quit' to shut it down again. I'll search out any
podcasts I can find on applevis tomorrow, but for now, I seem to be getting
stuck with all things audio! -

Andy
On 22 May 2014, at 19:34, Eleanor Martha Burke
 wrote:

> Andy I have used Audasity and Sound Flower.  There is a podcast on this on
> Apple Vis and if you don't find it, I think I might have it and could put
it
> in my dropbox.  Another thing I did was to install a plug-in for Audasity
> which allowed me to convert to MP3 files.
> 
> Eleanor
> 
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: 22 May 2014 19:31
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> Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac
> 
> You can use audio hijack or amadeus both of which will do what you want.
> 
> Take care.
> On May 22, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Andy Collins 
wrote:
> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Anybody suggest an app to create mp3 files that will use the built-in mic
> on this Mac? I can use quick Time of course, but this doesn't record in
mp3
> -
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RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

As a beginner, this question may sound stupid.  In Windows there is System
Restore which would bring you back to an earlier point.  Is there anything
similar in Mac?

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 23 May 2014 10:35
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

Sarah - I put Audio Hijack in to a Google search, and it took me to the NCH
swift website, where I didn't find Audio Hijack, but another editing app
called Soundtap; I installed this as I understand NCH to be well respected.
When I opened the app, I was asked to change the output sound device under
system sounds to the sound tap device, but when I went there to do this, and
interacted with the device table, where headphones was selected by default,
I lost Voice Over, but not actual machine sounds. Afer trying this a couple
of times, and getting the same results, I removed sound tap from my
application folder, and deleted it from the downloads folder. I have since
installed Audacity, but it freezes every time I open it, and I  have to do a
force quit to get rid of it. I also find now, that when Google chrome opens,
I can't shut it down, and have to force quit that too. This all started when
I installed Olearia to read DAISY files. All a bit frustrating, all I want
to do is rea
 d DAISY titles, and make some short audio mp3 recordings -

Andy
On 22 May 2014, at 19:30, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> You can use audio hijack or amadeus both of which will do what you want.
> 
> Take care.
> On May 22, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Andy Collins 
wrote:
> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Anybody suggest an app to create mp3 files that will use the built-in mic
on this Mac? I can use quick Time of course, but this doesn't record in mp3
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RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Not Chris but around sixty pounds sterling.

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 23 May 2014 11:59
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

Chris - Have just installed Amadeus, the lite version, and it seems to be
doing what I want, i.e. just making gsome short mp3 audio recordings.
However, the lite version only allows 7 saved recordings, so how much is it
if you know, for the pro version? -


Andy
On 22 May 2014, at 19:32, Christopher Hallsworth 
wrote:

> Try Amadeus either the Lite or Pro versions.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 22/05/2014 19:16, Andy Collins wrote:
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Anybody suggest an app to create mp3 files that will use the built-in mic
on this Mac? I can use quick Time of course, but this doesn't record in mp3
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RE: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Unfortunately, this was why I went for Audasity and the Mac plug-in to save
as MP3 files.  I think I recall you have very good IT skills so I am sure
once you sort out what is freezing your Mac you will do this.  Did uyou
listen to that podcast on the Audasity and Sound Flower?  I could send you a
link to it from my dropbox.

Eleanor

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:04
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac

Hmmm! Being that I don't need it to do much for me, that's a bit pricey -

Andy
On 23 May 2014, at 12:01, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
 wrote:

> Not Chris but around sixty pounds sterling.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 23 May 2014 11:59
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Creating mp3 files on a Mac
> 
> Chris - Have just installed Amadeus, the lite version, and it seems to be
> doing what I want, i.e. just making gsome short mp3 audio recordings.
> However, the lite version only allows 7 saved recordings, so how much is
it
> if you know, for the pro version? -
> 
> 
> Andy
> On 22 May 2014, at 19:32, Christopher Hallsworth

> wrote:
> 
>> Try Amadeus either the Lite or Pro versions.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 22/05/2014 19:16, Andy Collins wrote:
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> Anybody suggest an app to create mp3 files that will use the built-in
mic
> on this Mac? I can use quick Time of course, but this doesn't record in
mp3
> -
>>> 
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RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Like I say David, I have looked for that app unsuccessfully.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:37
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

I agree with this.  Whilst in theory just deleting the app should do the job
some companies are not behaving well in the way they are installing stuff. I
thought I had uninstalled some apps but clean my Mac found considerable
amounts of stuff left over. A particular culprit in my case was Infovox
which left loads of junk on my Mac which needed cleaning up not just in
terms of files but start up stuff which was no longer necessary.

David Griffith.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Maggie
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:09
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

Hi andy,

I think that in general, macs do a better job when uninstalling apps then
other operating systems do.

Having said this, however, it pays to get an app such as  
 app trap to remove all the parts and bits of an app, just in case.  There
are quite a few of these out there to choose from.  When you install this
app, it's a preference pane within system prefs, and when you uninstall an
app, it makes sure the entire thing is gone from your mac.

hth,
Caitlyn
ps-I can't remember whether I got this from the mac app store or googled
it..
On May 23, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> I've been installing and uninstalling some audio software from my Mac, and
I realised that I didn't know for sure if just deleting an app from the apps
folder, fully removed it from my machine, under windows, there was an
uninstaller, and even then in many cases, it was necessary to manually
remove extra components that the app had also installed. Do Macs do a better
more thorough job of uninstalling apps?-
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RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I even had someone in the Apple store in London look for me and not find it.
Maybe it is that it is not available in the app store for Mac.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 23 May 2014 14:45
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

What was the problem?
I typed clean my Mac into Google and the first search result was 

http://macpaw.com/cleanmymac

David 
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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:40
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

Like I say David, I have looked for that app unsuccessfully.

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:37
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

I agree with this.  Whilst in theory just deleting the app should do the job
some companies are not behaving well in the way they are installing stuff. I
thought I had uninstalled some apps but clean my Mac found considerable
amounts of stuff left over. A particular culprit in my case was Infovox
which left loads of junk on my Mac which needed cleaning up not just in
terms of files but start up stuff which was no longer necessary.

David Griffith.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Maggie
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:09
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

Hi andy,

I think that in general, macs do a better job when uninstalling apps then
other operating systems do.

Having said this, however, it pays to get an app such as  
 app trap to remove all the parts and bits of an app, just in case.  There
are quite a few of these out there to choose from.  When you install this
app, it's a preference pane within system prefs, and when you uninstall an
app, it makes sure the entire thing is gone from your mac.

hth,
Caitlyn
ps-I can't remember whether I got this from the mac app store or googled
it..
On May 23, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> I've been installing and uninstalling some audio software from my Mac, and
I realised that I didn't know for sure if just deleting an app from the apps
folder, fully removed it from my machine, under windows, there was an
uninstaller, and even then in many cases, it was necessary to manually
remove extra components that the app had also installed. Do Macs do a better
more thorough job of uninstalling apps?-
> 
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RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

OK thanks, is the free option good?  I just see where it says download free.
Maybe that is a trial?  How long did you have your Mac before you had to
start using this app?

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 23 May 2014 14:45
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

What was the problem?
I typed clean my Mac into Google and the first search result was 

http://macpaw.com/cleanmymac

David 
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 23 May 2014 12:40
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

Like I say David, I have looked for that app unsuccessfully.

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Sent: 23 May 2014 12:37
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

I agree with this.  Whilst in theory just deleting the app should do the job
some companies are not behaving well in the way they are installing stuff. I
thought I had uninstalled some apps but clean my Mac found considerable
amounts of stuff left over. A particular culprit in my case was Infovox
which left loads of junk on my Mac which needed cleaning up not just in
terms of files but start up stuff which was no longer necessary.

David Griffith.

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Subject: Re: Uninstalling apps from the Mac

Hi andy,

I think that in general, macs do a better job when uninstalling apps then
other operating systems do.

Having said this, however, it pays to get an app such as  
 app trap to remove all the parts and bits of an app, just in case.  There
are quite a few of these out there to choose from.  When you install this
app, it's a preference pane within system prefs, and when you uninstall an
app, it makes sure the entire thing is gone from your mac.

hth,
Caitlyn
ps-I can't remember whether I got this from the mac app store or googled
it..
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> 
> I've been installing and uninstalling some audio software from my Mac, and
I realised that I didn't know for sure if just deleting an app from the apps
folder, fully removed it from my machine, under windows, there was an
uninstaller, and even then in many cases, it was necessary to manually
remove extra components that the app had also installed. Do Macs do a better
more thorough job of uninstalling apps?-
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RE: iTunes & FLAC

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I for one do not know the significance of flac format but glad it is good.
What I would like to know is if I can burn to CD albums I purchase in the
iTunes store.

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Subject: iTunes & FLAC

Hello everybody

It would appear, and I discovered this quite by accident, that iTunes can
now play .FLAC format tracks directly, without any form of plug-in
whatsoever. This, for us at least, is a huge huge break-through, as it's our
format of choice and has been for several years.

I've just tried playing an uncompressed FLAC track, and it worked perfectly.
Oh, Wow! Now we can have our entire album collection in our iTunes library,
and do away with the horrible old MP3 and even the M4B versions with the
exception of purchases.

The next logical thing, therefore, would be for us to join some or one of
the growing number of commercial websites now selling music legally in .FLAC
format. I need to see whether iTunes can be persuaded to treat a cue sheet
as a playlist. But, if it can, that would be even better as it would allow
us to use our album files, rather than having everything in individual
tracks.

I'll experiment with this and report back. Oh yes, and my apologies to those
for whom this information may not be new!

Warm regards

Lynne

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Re: Reinstall mac problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

There are usually clicks when typing a password however I sometimes find that 
each click is not heard i'd go ahead if your typing skills are good and type 
the password and see what happens

> On 26 May 2014, at 16:57, "David Griffith"  wrote:
> 
> I do not know for definite but in the early days I got my Mac there was often 
> no feedback when typing into secure edit fields.
> Have you tried just typing in Blind and pressing continue?
> 
> Of course you should try interacting with the field as well.
> 
> David Griffith
> .
> 
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> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Reinstall mac problem
> 
> Hi all. I'm trying to reinstall mac osx. Things are way to busy. So I do 
> command ® to get to the repair mode, turn on voiceover, then select install 
> Mac OS. I get to the Apple ID signin thing, and cannot type into the edit 
> field. The letters I type just aren't entered. What should i do?
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RE: Amadeus lite, and input devices

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Well I guess Andy it is a type of plug-in but is not part of Audasity.  

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Subject: Re: Amadeus lite, and input devices

My Limited understanding is that SoundFlower is some how part of Audacity,
and can be configured to record Voice Over at the same time as it records an
input source. Had I had more success with Audacity, I wouldn't be playing
with Amadeus, not that I'm getting much further with the latter! -

Andy
On 26 May 2014, at 19:06, Christopher Hallsworth 
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> Andy Amadeus can record what's coming through your sound card if you also
use an app like Sound Flower. I'll let others chime in as not used this.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
> On 26/05/2014 18:55, Andy Collins wrote:
>> But the iPod connects via USB, and is an input device to iTunes, so why
not for Amadeus? I know that Amadeus can see external turntables connected
via USB on it's input tab, so not sure why it should discriminate in this
way.
>> 
>> By the way Chris, do you know if Amadeus can record internet streams or
podcasts? If so, how?
>> 
>> Thanks -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 26 May 2014, at 12:21, Christopher Hallsworth
 wrote:
>> 
>>> Guess the iPod isn't an input device that Amadeus is expecting. It will
expect things like a microphone or a device with a line in/out connection.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
>>> On 26/05/2014 12:13, Andy Collins wrote:
 Hi all -
 
 Still trying to trial this app. I'm wondering how I can get the input
tab in the app to see my iPod, when I hook it up to this Mac. all that is
there in the input tab, is my built in mic. -
 
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RE: Amadeus lite, and input devices

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Yes with audacity.  Have you listened to the podcast Andy?  I said I can
give you a link to it from my dropbox if you have not.

Eleanor

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 27 May 2014 17:46
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Amadeus lite, and input devices

Eleanor - I'm a bit confused by it all! All I need to do is record a
streaming podcast or live feed; it seems that Amadeus can't do this, but if
I go for Sound flower, will I still need it to run with something else for
my purposes? -

Andy 
On 26 May 2014, at 23:45, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
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> Well I guess Andy it is a type of plug-in but is not part of Audasity.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 26 May 2014 21:24
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Amadeus lite, and input devices
> 
> My Limited understanding is that SoundFlower is some how part of Audacity,
> and can be configured to record Voice Over at the same time as it records
an
> input source. Had I had more success with Audacity, I wouldn't be playing
> with Amadeus, not that I'm getting much further with the latter! -
> 
> Andy
> On 26 May 2014, at 19:06, Christopher Hallsworth

> wrote:
> 
>> Andy Amadeus can record what's coming through your sound card if you also
> use an app like Sound Flower. I'll let others chime in as not used this.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>> On 26/05/2014 18:55, Andy Collins wrote:
>>> But the iPod connects via USB, and is an input device to iTunes, so why
> not for Amadeus? I know that Amadeus can see external turntables connected
> via USB on it's input tab, so not sure why it should discriminate in this
> way.
>>> 
>>> By the way Chris, do you know if Amadeus can record internet streams or
> podcasts? If so, how?
>>> 
>>> Thanks -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 26 May 2014, at 12:21, Christopher Hallsworth
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Guess the iPod isn't an input device that Amadeus is expecting. It will
> expect things like a microphone or a device with a line in/out connection.
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>>> www.hadley.edu
>>>> 
>>>> On 26/05/2014 12:13, Andy Collins wrote:
>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still trying to trial this app. I'm wondering how I can get the input
> tab in the app to see my iPod, when I hook it up to this Mac. all that is
> there in the input tab, is my built in mic. -
>>>>> 
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Mac App Store Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

All buttons are dimmed so nothing is active.  How can I sort this out?  Have 
closed the app and shut down the Mac but it is still the same. 


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Re: Mac App Store Problem

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I don't know how to do that, signing out and back in.
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To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Mac App Store Problem


Have you tried signing out and back  in? i've never seen or heard of this 
problem before.  This is an odd one.


good luck.
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All buttons are dimmed so nothing is active.  How can I sort this out? 
Have closed the app and shut down the Mac but it is still the same.

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Signing in to more than one app store

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi Sarah
That was excellent.  Now can you answer this one for me perhaps.  I have 
accounts in the Ireland and the UK app stores.  I was looking for an app 
Universal Translate which does not appear to be in the app store, at least 
not a free version.  Yet I am aware that 2 people in the UK downloaded the 
free app today.  Now last week I was in Ireland and I purchased an album in 
the Ireland app store.  Maybe this is why I got problems with the app store 
when all the buttons were dimmed.  Now I would just like to known about 
signing out of one app store and in to the other app store.


Eleanor
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Mac App Store Problem


1. go to the store menu after you go to the mac app store (from now on 
called the mas)

2. click sign out.

3. go back to the store menu

4. click sign in and enter yoru credentals.

I dunno if this will solve the probllem but it's worth a try.

Good luck.
On May 30, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:



I don't know how to do that, signing out and back in.
- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Mac App Store Problem


Have you tried signing out and back  in? i've never seen or heard of 
this problem before.  This is an odd one.


good luck.
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All buttons are dimmed so nothing is active.  How can I sort this out? 
Have closed the app and shut down the Mac but it is still the same.

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Re: Mac App Store Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Chris that is insufficient information for me as a beginner.  I am really 
pleased that you are on the list as I have had lots of help from you over 
many lists but as a beginner more information such as that given by Sarah is 
very helpful until I become more experienced.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Mac App Store Problem



Store menu.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 30/05/2014 20:37, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

I don't know how to do that, signing out and back in.
- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Mac App Store Problem



Have you tried signing out and back  in? i've never seen or heard of
this problem before.  This is an odd one.

good luck.
On May 30, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
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All buttons are dimmed so nothing is active.  How can I sort this
out? Have closed the app and shut down the Mac but it is still the 
same.

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Re: Can my mac manage a parallel port for embossing?

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have the Index Basic Braille Printer.  Where do I get the drivers for the 
Mac?  Up until now I have been using it on Windows.


Eleanor
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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Can my mac manage a parallel port for embossing?


  Why don't you use Louis combined with the Index Braille printer app for 
the Mac?  I do that successfully here.



Take Care

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On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:


Hello All,

I’m trying to get an old Index Basic working with my Mac Mini. I have an 
USB 2 Paralle. I have installed a USB 2 Serial driver to try the serial 
route. In the system report; That it sees an IEEE-1284 device and has this 
listing.


IEEE-1284 Controller:

 Product ID: 0x2305
 Vendor ID: 0x067b  (Prolific Technology, Inc.)
 Version: 2.00
 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec
 Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc.
 Location ID: 0x1440 / 2
 Current Available (mA): 500
 Current Required (mA): 100

In linux I would now echo something to the /dev listing but I don’t know 
if it is listed in /dev. The add printer tool doesn’t allow you to specify 
USB or Parallel connection. What on earth does it mean by offering fax, ip 
and window?


Does anyone use an old parallel or serial on a new Mac? If so, how did you 
configure it?


Gena
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Training and Coaching.
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Re: Bootcamp

[eleanor martha burke]

can you expand any more on that Chris?

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 5 Jun 2014, at 07:34, Christopher Hallsworth  
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> Fusion is an app.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
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>> On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote:
>> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, 
>> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
>> 
>> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
>> 
>> Orin
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas  wrote:
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>>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these 
>>> days?
>>> regards
>>> Wil
>>> 
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Re: Bootcamp

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sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going to 
take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation 
rather than one liners

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark  wrote:
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> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, 
> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Skype: orin1112
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> 
> 
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>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these 
>> days?
>> regards
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Burning to CD using NCH Burn

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called Burn. 
Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not sure that I 
went through the correct process to do this.  The only way I could find the 
Album which appeares in my iTunes (as purchased from the iTunes store) was 
to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn from there.  This way it 
turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted all 23 songs and then went 
to Burn.  However, the CD is not of listenable quality at the beginning of 
each track and there is a sort of thuding noise through some of the songs. 
There are areas where it is very clear sound.  I am new to Mac and am 
wondering first of all if I choose the right burning software and secondly 
if perhaps there is a setting on it for burning at a given speed which might 
help for more smooth burning to CD.  Hope someone can help. 


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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi Colin, just another problem I have, when I go in to iTunes and want to 
get to the Album, I have to vo right arrow across for absolutely ages 
through everything and particularly if it is near the bottom.  Is there no 
way of placing these albums in a list instead of a grid or of being able to 
hit a key whfich is the initial letter of the album.  Thanks for reply.


Eleanor
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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn



Hi!
OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD then 
when in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find playlist 
action menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff 
and when your happy just burn!

And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
HTH Colin

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
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Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called 
Burn. Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not sure 
that I went through the correct process to do this.  The only way I could 
find the Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from the iTunes 
store) was to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn from there. 
This way it turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted all 23 songs 
and then went to Burn.  However, the CD is not of listenable quality at 
the beginning of each track and there is a sort of thuding noise through 
some of the songs. There are areas where it is very clear sound.  I am 
new to Mac and am wondering first of all if I choose the right burning 
software and secondly if perhaps there is a setting on it for burning at 
a given speed which might help for more smooth burning to CD.  Hope 
someone can help.

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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Ah thanks Colin.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Red.Falcon" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn



Hi Eleanor!
OK I'm still on Mountain kitty and in my iTunes in grid mode if I pick a 
letter like [M] I'm put near the albums artist starting with that letter!
Also another option is if you know the name of the album just put that in 
the search field and arrow through the options given and press enter on 
the album then when you arrow across to the grid that should put you on 
that album!

Maybe someone else has a better method!
HTH Colin

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Its to late for the pebbles to vote!"
[Kosh Babylon 5 2258]

On 5 Jun 2014, at 11:11, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi Colin, just another problem I have, when I go in to iTunes and want to 
get to the Album, I have to vo right arrow across for absolutely ages 
through everything and particularly if it is near the bottom.  Is there 
no way of placing these albums in a list instead of a grid or of being 
able to hit a key which is the initial letter of the album.  Thanks for 
reply.


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: "Red.Falcon" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn



Hi!
OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD 
then when in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find 
playlist action menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff 
and when your happy just burn!

And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
HTH Colin

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called 
Burn. Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not 
sure that I went through the correct process to do this.  The only way 
I could find the Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from 
the iTunes store) was to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn 
from there. This way it turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted 
all 23 songs and then went to Burn.  However, the CD is not of 
listenable quality at the beginning of each track and there is a sort 
of thudding noise through some of the songs. There are areas where it 
is very clear sound.  I am new to Mac and am wondering first of all if 
I choose the right burning software and secondly if perhaps there is a 
setting on it for burning at a given speed which might help for more 
smooth burning to CD.  Hope someone can help.

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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

That worked for me Colin.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Red.Falcon" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn



Hi Eleanor!
OK I'm still on Mountain kitty and in my iTunes in grid mode if I pick a 
letter like [M] I'm put near the albums artist starting with that letter!
Also another option is if you know the name of the album just put that in 
the search field and arrow through the options given and press enter on 
the album then when you arrow across to the grid that should put you on 
that album!

Maybe someone else has a better method!
HTH Colin

"The Avalanche has started!
Its to late for the pebbles to vote!"
[Kosh Babylon 5 2258]

On 5 Jun 2014, at 11:11, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi Colin, just another problem I have, when I go in to iTunes and want to 
get to the Album, I have to vo right arrow across for absolutely ages 
through everything and particularly if it is near the bottom.  Is there 
no way of placing these albums in a list instead of a grid or of being 
able to hit a key which is the initial letter of the album.  Thanks for 
reply.


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: "Red.Falcon" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn



Hi!
OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD 
then when in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find 
playlist action menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff 
and when your happy just burn!

And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
HTH Colin

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called 
Burn. Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not 
sure that I went through the correct process to do this.  The only way 
I could find the Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from 
the iTunes store) was to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn 
from there. This way it turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted 
all 23 songs and then went to Burn.  However, the CD is not of 
listenable quality at the beginning of each track and there is a sort 
of thudding noise through some of the songs. There are areas where it 
is very clear sound.  I am new to Mac and am wondering first of all if 
I choose the right burning software and secondly if perhaps there is a 
setting on it for burning at a given speed which might help for more 
smooth burning to CD.  Hope someone can help.

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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi Colin, have done this and the CD is much better than the one I burned 
last night but still not perfect.  Now my next question is this, is it my 
CDs that are poor quality or my new Apple CD player faulty or finally maybe 
I need to make some alteration to burning speed or whatever?
- Original Message - 
From: "Red.Falcon" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn



Hi!
OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD then 
when in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find playlist 
action menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff 
and when your happy just burn!

And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
HTH Colin

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called 
Burn. Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not sure 
that I went through the correct process to do this.  The only way I could 
find the Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from the iTunes 
store) was to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn from there. 
This way it turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted all 23 songs 
and then went to Burn.  However, the CD is not of listenable quality at 
the beginning of each track and there is a sort of thuding noise through 
some of the songs. There are areas where it is very clear sound.  I am 
new to Mac and am wondering first of all if I choose the right burning 
software and secondly if perhaps there is a setting on it for burning at 
a given speed which might help for more smooth burning to CD.  Hope 
someone can help.

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Re: What Is Fusion?

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Excellent thank you for that explanation.  How much does it cost?
- Original Message - 
From: "richie Gardenhire" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 9:27 AM
Subject: What Is Fusion?


Somebody asked about Fusion a while ago, and there's a good chance he/ she 
got an answer before I encountered the message.  But just in case  no 
answer was given, Fusion is a program by which Windows can be  installed 
on a Mac without sighted assistance, and allows for  switching on the fly 
from the Mac OS to Windows.  HTH.


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
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Looking for An iPhone App to control iTunes on the Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, I was wondering if an app might exist which I could use to control 
playing of my music on the Mac. 


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Re: Looking for An iPhone App to control iTunes on the Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

OK I have that but thought it was just for the Apple TV.  Will investigate 
it.
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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for An iPhone App to control iTunes on the Mac


Hi, I believe Apple’s remote app, will do what you want.
On Jun 8, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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Hi All, I was wondering if an app might exist which I could use to control 
playing of my music on the Mac.

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Re: forwarding a text message

[eleanor martha burke]

Nice one Chris about the arrow pointing up it is good to know if assisting a 
sighted person what the icon looks like

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 11 Jun 2014, at 04:23, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Glenn,
> 
> So, open up the message thread in the messages app.  Find the part of the 
> thread you want to forward.  After each message you'll see a more info 
> button.  If you double tap on this, then down at the bottom center of the 
> screen, directly above your home key is a forward button.  Double tap this, 
> and you're on your way.  Just for your info, the icon doesn't visually say 
> forward.  It's a picture of a little arrow pointing up.
> 
> Chris.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:18 PM
> Subject: forwarding a text message
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> I got some picture attachments from someone, and I would like to forward
>> them on to someone else.
>> This is on my iPhone 5, using the latest IOS.
>> There is the edit, but forwarding was not an option.
>> Under actions, there was only delete or activate, which is basically opening
>> the message.
>> When the message is open, I don't find forward as an option.
>> 
>> Thanks for any ideas.
>> Glenn
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Reverse Colours On Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, I am wondering if I can have a hot key, or an Apple script for the 
above, to reverse colours as a toggle like I have on my iPad Mini and 
iPhone. 


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Re: A bug which I had thought was a setting!

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

What is the accessability phone number?  Presumably you refer to one in the 
US.  Is there a dedicated accessability phone number for the UK?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: A bug which I had thought was a setting!



Why not call the accessibility hot line, or email

accessibil...@apple.com

to let them know of what's up? also if you have a free dev account you can 
set up the bug yourself at bugreport.apple.com


Take care and I'll have to test weather this happens.


Tc.test


On Jun 17, 2014, at 23:10, Ben J Bloomgren  wrote:

Hello List,

I had thought that this bug was a setting, but upon absolutely scouring 
the Voiceover utility and Mavericks' System Preferences, I'm discovering 
that it's a very cool, but very annoying bug.


Before I go any further, I'm using OSX 10.9.3 Mavericks on a Mid 2010 
White Polycarbon stock Macbook. When I'm typing text, be it in Text Edit, 
iWorks Pages, Male, Safari, OSX dialog boxes, etc., with key echo set to 
words, it speaks the text which I've just typed even though I have not 
pressed the spacebar or a punctuation mark which would invoke the key 
echo. There's about a one second to a second and a half delay between the 
key press and VO speaking, and when I'm typing words, numbers, letters 
and numbers or whatever. It does not matter where in the OS I am or with 
which voice I'm using. I deal frequently with foreign languages, and it 
does it with those voices, in those keyboard layouts and in those 
languages. it doesn't matter whether it's Alex, Fiona, Ava, Allison, 
Aleksandros, Melina, Tingting or what. It does it everywhere. If I'm 
typing the word "hello" for example, if I pause after typing h, VO will 
say "h." After the e, it'll say "he." After both l's, it'll say

"h
ell." After the o, it'll say hello. The same is true for sets of numbers. 
I type a 5 and pause, and it says "5." Type a 0 thereafter, it'll say 
"50."


I'm not normally a thorough person, and I don't prefer to be such for 
various quirky reasons. I have literally looked through every tab and 
option in the Voiceover utility and OSX's System Preferences. The only 
thing I haven't done is to read the bloomin' VO user's guide. This only 
happens when the key echo is set to words under VO+v. A friend of mine 
who is thrice as thorough as I has also scoured the system prefs and VO 
utility, and he's come up empty too! If there are any Apple developers up 
here with access to the developers' bug reporter, please submit this as a 
bug to Apple on my behalf. It's something I've gotten used to and kind a 
like in a strange way, but it needs to be rectified so that blind and VI 
businessmen don't get outed when they type financial or other 
confidential data into their Macs.


Thanks,

Ben
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Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I think tagging can be done in m.facebook.com or at least when I went 
through it yesterday it could be done.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac


Hello Laurel & Sarah,

On my Macs I’m currently able to tag FB Friends from a popup list using the 
following steps:
1. This assumes the latest versions of MacOS and Safari are installed, 
QuickNav is turned off, and that javascript is enabled in Safari (Safari / 
Preferences / Security / Enable Javascript).
2. Go to the main Facebook site www.facebook.com. Note that this will not 
work on the mobile Facebook site, m.facebook.com.
3. On the main Facebook page, navigate to and activate the button labeled 
“Update Status.” VO now announces “What’s on your mind” and I can start 
typing my status update here.
4. When I want to tag someone in the body of the status, I type the “@“ 
symbol followed by the first few letters of their name, as you mentioned, 
and then I can use one of the following three methods to select and insert 
the desired name into the status. Note that all of these methods require 
Javascript to be enabled in Safari.
Method 1: Press the down arrow key with no modifier keys and VO 
automatically moves into the list of matching names and I can highlight the 
friend I want to tag and then press VO+Spacebar to insert the name into the 
status and resume typing.
Method 2: if your Mac has a mouse or trackpad and if you are comfortable 
using it and if you have your VO Verbosity set to "speak text under mouse 
after delay of zero seconds” you might be able to press VO+Command+F5 to 
bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and then move the mouse pointer 
down through the popup list of names and click once to insert the name.
Method 3: Open the Item Chooser menu (VO+I) and type the first few letters 
you typed in step 4 above. This narrows my item chooser down to the list of 
names in the popup list and I can then navigate and select the desired name 
using normal Item Chooser / VO commands.


BTW, On my Macs I normally use the FB mobile site, m.facebook.com, but I’m 
not able to tag friends using the mobile site, which is why I wrote my 
instructions using the standard FB site.


Also, I’ve not yet tried removing the last names from a tag, so I can’t 
speak to whether or not that works in Safari on the Mac.


Lastly, while the folks at FB are undeniably making great strides in terms 
of site accessibility, I have a sense that they are still prone to making 
random, unannounced back-end changes that alter the layout and behavior of 
the site. Thus, YMMV.


HTH, and please let us know if this works for you,
Bryan

On Jun 16, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
wrote:
Now, for the bad news. The process should be the same for the mac, hit the 
@ sign and then begin typing a name, and a drop down menu should appear 
and you should be able to select the person, hit backspace if you wanna 
get rid of the last name, etc. The part that we VO users can't get around 
is that once you start typing, no drop down menus seem to appear. I don't 
think Voiceover is recognizing the menu, assuming it's there. I'm not sure 
if it's fixable or not, but maybe somebody more knowledgable than I can 
take this info and do something with it.


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Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Another list member assisted me to do this so I will ask that person to 
contact you about it.  I am just a starter and the person talked me through 
it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Jones" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac


Hello Eleanor,

Would you mind sharing the steps you follow to successfully tag a friend in 
the body of a post using the m.facebook.com site? I’ve had no luck making 
this happen. While the popup list of Friends does present itself, I’ve found 
no way to reliably select and insert a name from that list. Attempting to 
arrow through the list just produces the standard keyboard dead-end tone, 
pointing and clicking the mouse has no effect, and the item chooser does not 
seem to see the items in this popup list.


Thank you,
Bryan


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:
I think tagging can be done in m.facebook.com or at least when I went 
through it yesterday it could be done.

- Original Message - From: "Bryan Jones" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: tagging somebody on Facebook using Safari on Mac


Hello Laurel & Sarah,

On my Macs I’m currently able to tag FB Friends from a popup list using 
the following steps:
1. This assumes the latest versions of MacOS and Safari are installed, 
QuickNav is turned off, and that javascript is enabled in Safari (Safari / 
Preferences / Security / Enable Javascript).
2. Go to the main Facebook site www.facebook.com. Note that this will not 
work on the mobile Facebook site, m.facebook.com.
3. On the main Facebook page, navigate to and activate the button labeled 
“Update Status.” VO now announces “What’s on your mind” and I can start 
typing my status update here.
4. When I want to tag someone in the body of the status, I type the “@“ 
symbol followed by the first few letters of their name, as you mentioned, 
and then I can use one of the following three methods to select and insert 
the desired name into the status. Note that all of these methods require 
Javascript to be enabled in Safari.
Method 1: Press the down arrow key with no modifier keys and VO 
automatically moves into the list of matching names and I can highlight 
the friend I want to tag and then press VO+Spacebar to insert the name 
into the status and resume typing.
Method 2: if your Mac has a mouse or trackpad and if you are comfortable 
using it and if you have your VO Verbosity set to "speak text under mouse 
after delay of zero seconds” you might be able to press VO+Command+F5 to 
bring the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and then move the mouse pointer 
down through the popup list of names and click once to insert the name.
Method 3: Open the Item Chooser menu (VO+I) and type the first few letters 
you typed in step 4 above. This narrows my item chooser down to the list 
of names in the popup list and I can then navigate and select the desired 
name using normal Item Chooser / VO commands.


BTW, On my Macs I normally use the FB mobile site, m.facebook.com, but I’m 
not able to tag friends using the mobile site, which is why I wrote my 
instructions using the standard FB site.


Also, I’ve not yet tried removing the last names from a tag, so I can’t 
speak to whether or not that works in Safari on the Mac.


Lastly, while the folks at FB are undeniably making great strides in terms 
of site accessibility, I have a sense that they are still prone to making 
random, unannounced back-end changes that alter the layout and behavior of 
the site. Thus, YMMV.


HTH, and please let us know if this works for you,
Bryan

On Jun 16, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
 wrote:
Now, for the bad news. The process should be the same for the mac, hit 
the @ sign and then begin typing a name, and a drop down menu should 
appear and you should be able to select the person, hit backspace if you 
wanna get rid of the last name, etc. The part that we VO users can't get 
around is that once you start typing, no drop down menus seem to appear. 
I don't think Voiceover is recognizing the menu, assuming it's there. I'm 
not sure if it's fixable or not, but maybe somebody more knowledgable 
than I can take this info and do something with it.


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Braille Blazer and Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Anyone using Braille Blazer with their Mac?

Eleanor- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Numbers


Try the right side of the screen. If it is layed out the same wya as pages 
you will sotp interacting and go to the right to the inspector and go from 
there.

On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Graham Smith  wrote:

ok, not sure where the formatter is, or the number pop up button.  I have 
no such options under format on the main menu.


Graham

On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

That’s done in the formatter. when you select “number” from the popup, 
then you can also set the decimal places and other things.
I usually do this by selecting an entire column that is going to be used 
to hold numeric data, and then format the entire column at once in the 
formatter.


On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Graham Smith  wrote:


How can I alter the number of decimal places showing in a cell please.

Regards
Graham

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Re: Text edit problem

[eleanor martha burke]

Is it better than text edit why do you use this in preference to text edit

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 21 Jun 2014, at 09:31, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> No. it's part of the mac. You cannot download text edit from the mac   
> store. you can however download iText express from the mac app store. I 
> actually use it in place of text edit some times. 
>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:45 PM, George Cham  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Sarah, 
>> Can I download text edit from the Mac app store? Or is it part of the 
>> operating system? 
>> 
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 21 Jun 2014, at 2:11 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Acutaly if you tab over you will see the new document button.
>>> 
>>> A work around is to just hit cmd w, then hit cmd n for a new document.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 7:38 PM, George Cham  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm having a problem with text edit on the Mac. 
>>>> 
>>>> When I open it, it seems to want to open the documents folder. 
>>>> 
>>>> How do I fix it, so that when I open it, it presemts  me with the option 
>>>> of creating a new document. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> George 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: how to copy text messages from iPhone to Mac

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Can't you see your text message in iMessage or are you referring to messages 
sent to you not composed on an iPhone?
- Original Message - 
From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" 

To: "mac access" 
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:39 PM
Subject: how to copy text messages from iPhone to Mac



Hello everyone,

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to copy text messages from the iPhone 
to the mac?  If so, what is the procedure and what are the necessary apps 
to install?

Thanks for your help and have a good one.

Lyn, Canelle & helios
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Re: My clean install so far

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Could be useful if Chris would post to the list so we could have it to refer 
to if required at a later date.
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From: "Jackie Brown" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: My clean install so far



Hi Chris

It would be appreciated if you could give me details of how you achieved
this.  I inadvertently deleted notes on the subject, so cannot refer back 
to

all the steps from memory.  I want to do this before updating to Mavericks
from Mountain Lion.

Many thanks.



Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
Skype: Thejackmate

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of john gallagher
Sent: 22 June 2014 12:14
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: Re: My clean install so far

hi chris that sounds very interesting indeed mist the first thread on this
so, can little then. you do this with out any sight at

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Hallsworth 
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility 
Date: Sunday, 22 June 2014 11.22 am
Subject: My clean install so far




Hello everybody
Well my clean install of Os X 10.9 Mavericks is going very well. My
startup time has been dramatically improved thanks to the clean install
from over a minute to about half that time maybe less. It certainly can
help to do a clean install if you have issues like that. And when I say
clean install I mean that. Restructure your disc and reinstall the
operating system from scratch. As you have seen from my note the other
day I used my USB flash drive with the Mavericks Installer created with
Diskmakerx rather than the recovery partition. I like to have my
installer on file in case my internet is out of action which would be
required if installing from the recovery partition since the installer
base image isn't actually stored on the partition.
--
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
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Re: email address

[eleanor martha burke]

could not find message in this email

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 22 Jun 2014, at 15:49, Elaine O Neill  wrote:
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> Sent from my iphonelain...@eircom.net.
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Re: PDf's

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Have you tried Skim from Source Forge, link below.
http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/
- Original Message - 
From: "Adi Kushnir" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: PDf's



Yes, that is true, but it looks like preview on the Mac does not do a
very good job with pdf's.

2014-06-23 12:42 GMT+03:00, David Griffith :

I will not answer your full question but just to point out that on all
platforms, including Windows, the ability to navigate by heading etc. in
PDF
documents depends on whether the PDF file has been tagged properly to 
allow

these accessibility features. In my experience only a small percentage of
PDF files have this tagging information included. If the heading or table
tags are not included no screenreader will be able to find them.

David Griffith
David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Adi Kushnir
Sent: 23 June 2014 09:54
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: PDf's

Hello,
What is the best way to read PDF's on a Mac with Vo including
navigation by headings, links, and so on like we are used with other
platforms screen readers?

Thanks,

Adi.
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Re: More On Our Plans

[eleanor martha burke]

I must admit I made my response privately also to the email address given

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 25 Jun 2014, at 13:07, Amber H  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I would really like to stay.  I thought we were supposed to be
> e-mailing privately the support address, but everyone else is just
> responding to the original messages, so I thought perhaps I should do
> that as well.
> 
> My e-mail address is:
> thetravele...@gmail.com
> 
> I do not require any particular settings, and wouldn't ask you to set
> them for me if I did, simply because it is not difficult for me to
> take the time to set them myself, and you both have so much else to
> do!!
> 
> Your list is very informative and I have learned a lot though I have
> not posted much.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Amber M
> 
>> On 6/25/14, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>> I hope this reply is sufficient to help with your transition. I have got a
>> bit muddled and wish I had ppicked up the original post. I really want to
>> stay connected as your service is massively valuable to me.
>> 
>> 
>> Keep up the great work.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Ian Harrison
>>> On 25 Jun 2014, at 00:24, Bryan Jones  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here's a link to Lynn's original message. For future reference, all
>>> Mac-Access emails are available from two message archives, both of which
>>> can be reached from links provided at the bottom of each Mac-Access List
>>> email.
>>> 
>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/2014-June/042492.html
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2014, at 6:45 PM, don bishop  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would also like to move to the new list location and misplaced the
>>>> original message. Please post again if
>>>> 
>>>> possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Don
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Margaret Booth 
>>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility 
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:41 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: More On Our Plans
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi! Lynn
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you please send me your original email about changing the email list
>>>>> or the email address so I can let you know that I want to move to the
>>>>> new list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Margaret
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25 Jun 2014, at 8:04 am, "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The responses are still flooding in with requests to remain subscribed.
>>>>>> That is just excellent, many thanks to all of you who have written to
>>>>>> us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This post is just to let you know what will happen when Gordon creates
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>>>>>> just as you were when you joined the group. Despite this, please don't
>>>>>> start posting to the new address until we tell you that it's
>>>>>> operational. Further, there will be a short outage of service. This is
>>>>>> inevitable as Gordon changes the DNS settings for the domains over to
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>>>>>> for it to happen with some of the most rigid providers whose DNS
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>>>>>> In the norm, however, it only takes a matter of minutes.
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>>>>>> your operat

Problem with Voices on Mac Book Air

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

When I wish to alter voices on the fly, I only have 2 voices, Karen and 
Junior.  However, I did download several voices both compact and uncompact. 
What is my problem?  I am fairly sure they have downloaded because while 
downloading vo told me they were being downloaded and then this message 
stopped once downloaded.  Why then are they not appearing on the fly?  What 
should I try next?  Are the voices stored in a particular place where I 
should go and see what ones out of the many I can choose from, have 
downloaded? 


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Re: Problem with Voices on Mac Book Air

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Ah yes thanks Sarah, the problem was that I was not associating them with 
the particular apps.  All sorted now.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
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To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Voices on Mac Book Air


You need to make sure they are checked under customise. at least I think 
that might be the first place to check.


Take care.
On Jun 26, 2014, at 2:09 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


When I wish to alter voices on the fly, I only have 2 voices, Karen and 
Junior.  However, I did download several voices both compact and 
uncompact. What is my problem?  I am fairly sure they have downloaded 
because while downloading vo told me they were being downloaded and then 
this message stopped once downloaded.  Why then are they not appearing on 
the fly?  What should I try next?  Are the voices stored in a particular 
place where I should go and see what ones out of the many I can choose 
from, have downloaded?

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Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. 
I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could 
assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 


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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[eleanor martha burke]

not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? 
> Tha'ts all I can give for now.
> 
> Good luck.
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
>> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
>> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
>> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
>> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I 
>> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could 
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start me 
off!  If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my 
login details for them to try.
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Collins" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
MacProblem



I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The 
play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted 
person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then 
click it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can 
get it back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I 
haven't found any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I 
think this is one area where VO is still behind JAWS -


Andy
On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to 
access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over 
off and a sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any 
suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if 
someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Andy, I have some vision.  Now what is happening is that when I click on the 
Accept button to start the recording Java kicks in as the programme requires 
Java and crashes and there is nothing visual on the screen except mouse 
pointer.  VO says Java busy.  Now if I turn off VO and then a sighted person 
clicks on the Accept button then the programme opens just fine and they can 
click on the listen button.  However I do not know how to manage the click 
on the accept button and then the play button myself.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Collins" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording 
withMacProblem



I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear how, if you do, you manage 
to resolve this; like I said, there are some situations where VO just 
doesn't see the button, and so far, as far as I know, there isn't a work 
around. Hope yo have success with it -


Andy
On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:07, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start 
me off!  If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and 
my login details for them to try.
- Original Message - From: "Andy Collins" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
MacProblem



I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The 
play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a 
sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play 
button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the 
broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left 
corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the 
play button in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is 
still behind JAWS -


Andy
On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My 
Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after 
the live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am 
unable to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take 
Voice Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. 
Any suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information 
if someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMacProblem

[eleanor martha burke]

I will certainly get in touch with them about it

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 22:34, Andy Collins  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I think I understand. I have tried a few ways of getting around similar 
> experiences, but with no success. I do hope that Apple address this one soon -
> 
> Andy 
>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:25, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andy, I have some vision.  Now what is happening is that when I click on the 
>> Accept button to start the recording Java kicks in as the programme requires 
>> Java and crashes and there is nothing visual on the screen except mouse 
>> pointer.  VO says Java busy.  Now if I turn off VO and then a sighted person 
>> clicks on the Accept button then the programme opens just fine and they can 
>> click on the listen button.  However I do not know how to manage the click 
>> on the accept button and then the play button myself.
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Collins" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording 
>> withMacProblem
>> 
>> 
>>> I'm sure many of us would be interested to hear how, if you do, you manage 
>>> to resolve this; like I said, there are some situations where VO just 
>>> doesn't see the button, and so far, as far as I know, there isn't a work 
>>> around. Hope yo have success with it -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 21:07, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Andy for your comment, unfortunately I don't have someone to start 
>>>> me off!  If anyone is prepared to give this a go I can provide link and my 
>>>> login details for them to try.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Andy Collins" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
>>>> MacProblem
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The 
>>>>> play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a 
>>>>> sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play 
>>>>> button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the 
>>>>> broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner 
>>>>> of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button 
>>>>> in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind 
>>>>> JAWS -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My 
>>>>>> Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the 
>>>>>> live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable 
>>>>>> to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice 
>>>>>> Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button. Any 
>>>>>> suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if 
>>>>>> someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to 
>>>>>> eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[eleanor martha burke]

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will change 
and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith"  wrote:
> 
> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant
> button. 
> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
> playing.
> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
> messages.
> 
> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
> 
> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is
> possible that they responded to my query.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
> Problem
> 
> not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
> mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open
> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access
> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I
> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with MacProblem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

No good sorry but thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
MacProblem



Actually what i meant was this.  route your curser then turn vo off. Now 
just hit space and you should be good to go.


Take care.
On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Andy Collins  
wrote:


I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The 
play link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a 
sighted person to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play 
button, and then click it. Once this has been done for me, if the 
broadcast drops out, I can get it back by pressing the bottom left corner 
of the track pad, but I haven't found any way of clicking the play button 
in the first place. I think this is one area where VO is still behind 
JAWS -


Andy
On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
 wrote:


Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My 
Open University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the 
live tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable 
to access them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice 
Over off and a sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any 
suggestions please. I could provide a link with other information if 
someone feels they could assist me off list so please write to 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

OK David, I do knot know what you mean by route mouse, I have some vision so 
with some magnification (zoom) I position the mouse on accept)   and before 
clicking I turn voice over off.  I am then thrown back to the file I want to 
open.  Sorry for my poor knowledge.


I have just had an e-mail back from the Open University as I explained I had 
this problem and would you believe, yes, they asked if I had been provided 
with this specilist software by the Office for Students with 
Disabilities
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac 
Problem




Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 

wrote:


Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the

relevant

button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the 
Video

playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window 
and

then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it

is

possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha

burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
Mac

Problem

not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the

mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.


Good luck.

On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke

 wrote:


Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My

Open

University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to

access

them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions 
please.

I

could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple 
Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there is 
software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice 
Over. Is this correct?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac 
Problem




Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 

wrote:


Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the

relevant

button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the 
Video

playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window 
and

then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it

is

possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha

burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
Mac

Problem

not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the

mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.


Good luck.

On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke

 wrote:


Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My

Open

University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to

access

them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions 
please.

I

could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com

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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac Problem

[eleanor martha burke]

Thank you David I would be of the same thinking as yourself as regards other 
speech applications for the Mac as you quite clearly state and I agree again 
there is so much experience here available to me I do not even think that a 
genius at Apple would have as much knowledge

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:24, "David Griffith"  wrote:
> 
> I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the quality
> of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
> You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.
> 
> I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
> The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
> Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be used
> instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
> This is a little bit of a learning curve.
> I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover on
> first to see if that replicates the problem.
> If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then install
> the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that makes
> the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using chrome
> and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome and
> is not a general screen reader.
> Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University are
> completely incorrect.
> There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.
> 
> There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
> Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general screen
> reading option for the Mac.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
> Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
> Problem
> 
> Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple 
> Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there is 
> software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice 
> Over. Is this correct?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac 
> Problem
> 
> 
>> Can you do a 2 stage process.
>> 
>> Locate accept button.
>> Then route mouse to accept.
>> Voiceover off.
>> Click Track pad
>> Turn on Voiceover
>> Locate play
>> Route mouse to the play button.
>> Turn voiceover off again.
>> Click Trackpad.
>> 
>> Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
>> burke
>> Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
>> Problem
>> 
>> not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
>> change and I then need to hit a play button
>> 
>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>> 
>>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
>>> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
>>> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the
>> relevant
>>> button.
>>> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
>>> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the 
>>> Video
>>> playing.
>>> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window 
>>> and
>>> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
>>> messages.
>>> 
>>> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
>>> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
>>> 
>>> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
>>> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it
>> is
>>> possible that they responded to my query.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>&g

Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac Problem

[eleanor martha burke]

I looked for Google Zhrome in the Mac App Store but it did not come up would 
you suggest

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:24, "David Griffith"  wrote:
> 
> I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the quality
> of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
> You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.
> 
> I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
> The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
> Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be used
> instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
> This is a little bit of a learning curve.
> I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover on
> first to see if that replicates the problem.
> If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then install
> the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that makes
> the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using chrome
> and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome and
> is not a general screen reader.
> Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University are
> completely incorrect.
> There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.
> 
> There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
> Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general screen
> reading option for the Mac.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
> Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
> Problem
> 
> Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple 
> Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there is 
> software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice 
> Over. Is this correct?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Griffith" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac 
> Problem
> 
> 
>> Can you do a 2 stage process.
>> 
>> Locate accept button.
>> Then route mouse to accept.
>> Voiceover off.
>> Click Track pad
>> Turn on Voiceover
>> Locate play
>> Route mouse to the play button.
>> Turn voiceover off again.
>> Click Trackpad.
>> 
>> Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
>> burke
>> Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
>> Problem
>> 
>> not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
>> change and I then need to hit a play button
>> 
>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>> 
>>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
>>> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
>>> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the
>> relevant
>>> button.
>>> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
>>> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the 
>>> Video
>>> playing.
>>> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window 
>>> and
>>> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
>>> messages.
>>> 
>>> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
>>> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
>>> 
>>> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
>>> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it
>> is
>>> possible that they responded to my query.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
>> burke
>>> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13

Re: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Apologies I did know the spelling but was using the dictation feature!
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac 
Problem



It is called Chrome and not Zhrome. I do not think It will be in the Mac 
App

Store
You can install Google Chrome from any Google Search Page. Just go to
www.google.co.uk and you should be able to find a link there.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
burke

Sent: 29 June 2014 13:42
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem

I looked for Google Zhrome in the Mac App Store but it did not come up 
would

you suggest

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:24, "David Griffith" 

wrote:


I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the

quality

of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.

I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be 
used

instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
This is a little bit of a learning curve.
I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover 
on

first to see if that replicates the problem.
If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then

install

the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that

makes
the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using 
chrome

and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome

and

is not a general screen reader.
Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University 
are

completely incorrect.
There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.

There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general

screen

reading option for the Mac.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha

Burke

Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem

Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple
Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there 
is



software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice
Over. Is this correct?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem



Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with

Mac

Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 

wrote:

Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the 
whole

point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the

relevant

button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the
Video
playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window
and
then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of 
busy

messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so

it

is

possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha

burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: A

Re: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Looks like I am spoilt for choice on that link when I do a search, I would 
not know which one to choose.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac 
Problem



It is called Chrome and not Zhrome. I do not think It will be in the Mac 
App

Store
You can install Google Chrome from any Google Search Page. Just go to
www.google.co.uk and you should be able to find a link there.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha 
burke

Sent: 29 June 2014 13:42
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem

I looked for Google Zhrome in the Mac App Store but it did not come up 
would

you suggest

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 29 Jun 2014, at 11:24, "David Griffith" 

wrote:


I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the

quality

of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.

I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be 
used

instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
This is a little bit of a learning curve.
I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover 
on

first to see if that replicates the problem.
If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then

install

the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that

makes
the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using 
chrome

and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome

and

is not a general screen reader.
Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University 
are

completely incorrect.
There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.

There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general

screen

reading option for the Mac.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha

Burke

Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem

Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple
Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there 
is



software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice
Over. Is this correct?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem



Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with

Mac

Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 

wrote:

Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the 
whole

point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the

relevant

button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the
Video
playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window
and
then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of 
busy

messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so

it

is

possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha

burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X &

Re: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Dear David, I have now resolved my problem regarding my Open University 
tutorial recording.  To access it without Voice Over, I landed on the Accept 
button using VO and then lockedown the mouse, hope that is the correct term. 
Then turned off VO once the mouse was locked in position.  Finally and I am 
not sure why but I did the lockdown keyboard commands again, 
spacebar+command+VO+tab and immediately the tutorial started playing.  I was 
then able to turn on VO again and all was well. Thank you for all the 
suggestions.  Have downloaded the Chrome but not the add-on yet.  Did not 
need to use it but no harm in having it there as an additional browser.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac 
Problem




I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the quality
of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.

I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be used
instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
This is a little bit of a learning curve.
I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover on
first to see if that replicates the problem.
If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then 
install
the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that 
makes

the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using chrome
and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome 
and

is not a general screen reader.
Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University are
completely incorrect.
There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.

There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general 
screen

reading option for the Mac.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha 
Burke

Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem

Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple
Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there is
software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice
Over. Is this correct?
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem



Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
Mac

Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 

wrote:


Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the

relevant

button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the
Video
playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window
and
then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so 
it

is

possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha

burke

Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with
Mac
Problem

not really because when I click on play with 

Re: List Membership You need to find another method

[eleanor martha burke]

Actually the initial email though it is not necessarily my place to comment 
invited people to reply to a given dedicated email address members then took it 
upon themselves to start writing to the main list

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 1 Jul 2014, at 00:28, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Just an FYI for those of us you receive this list in an single email for 
> every message, I think it was wrong of you to ask everyone wishing to stay on 
> the list to email the list with their email as you have flooded my email with 
> a ton of messages that are of no concern to me. I understand you wanting to 
> keep people on your list but you have turned me off to the list and I can 
> care less if this causes you to remove me from the list, but asking everyone 
> to reply to an open thread with their email that the entire list is receiving 
> it wrong, and you need to find another way to run your list.
>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>> 
>> I am one of the guilty people.
>> I would like to stay on the Mac Access list. I would also like to know how 
>> to subscribe to technochat.
>> 
>> E-Mail address is:
>> khwi...@gmail.org.
>> 
>> Thank you for all that you help to do.
>> 
>> Kristeen
>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody
>>> 
>>> Firstly, the response to our recent request for confirmation from members 
>>> who wish us to remain on the service has been phenomenal, and we are very 
>>> grateful for that, thank you. However, there’s just one slight problem with 
>>> the responses we’ve received from some members. In the original request, I 
>>> did make it clear that we require the email addresses of those who wish to 
>>> remain on the list, and I asked for the address to be placed in the body of 
>>> the message.
>>> 
>>> In some cases, we have received mail with subject lines such as “Stay”, 
>>> “Yes”, and similar things. Also those messages and others besides didn’t 
>>> contain the address within the body of the message. If you think that you 
>>> may be one of those who omitted to place their address within the body of 
>>> their request, would you mind please repeating the exercise, this time 
>>> making sure to include your address within the main body of the message; 
>>> email address, I mean, not your geographical address. :) it would also be 
>>> helpful if you’d add a meaningful subject line such as “I’d Like to stay 
>>> on”, which ever list or lists you wish to remain with.
>>> 
>>> If you take more than one of our groups, such as Mac Access and 
>>> Techno-Chat, please feel free to include both in the same message if you 
>>> wish. Again, if you are one of those who did put their email address in the 
>>> body of your message, and if you made it clear which list or lists you wish 
>>> to remain a member of, then you may safely disregard this request.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your time, and my apologies for the repeated request to those 
>>> of you who either complied with the original address or who do not wish to 
>>> be ported over.
>>> 
>>> Finally, as I said, the response has been phenomenal and we appreciate 
>>> that. Please understand that we don’t have the time to respond to them all 
>>> individually. Be assured, however, that your request has been noted and 
>>> will be acted on shortly. When the new list is created, you may receive a 
>>> greeting message from the server. Please don’t respond to that message, and 
>>> please just wait for one of us to announce that the new list has gone live 
>>> before you post to it. Gordon is, as I speak, working on the project. We 
>>> have today acquired new hardware and he’s in the process of deploying and 
>>> configuring it all as I write.
>>> 
>>> Warmest regards
>>> 
>>> Lynne
>>> 
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Re: List Membership You need to find another method

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Me likewise Debbie.
- Original Message - 
From: "Debbie April Yuille" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:29 AM
Subject: RE: List Membership You need to find another method



I thought we were supposed to write to the support address, that's what I
did.

Debbie


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 9:28 AM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: List Membership You need to find another method

Just an FYI for those of us you receive this list in an single email for
every message, I think it was wrong of you to ask everyone wishing to stay
on the list to email the list with their email as you have flooded my 
email

with a ton of messages that are of no concern to me. I understand you
wanting to keep people on your list but you have turned me off to the list
and I can care less if this causes you to remove me from the list, but
asking everyone to reply to an open thread with their email that the 
entire

list is receiving it wrong, and you need to find another way to run your
list.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:


I am one of the guilty people.
I would like to stay on the Mac Access list. I would also like to know 
how

to subscribe to technochat.


E-Mail address is:
khwi...@gmail.org.

Thank you for all that you help to do.

Kristeen

On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy

 wrote:



Hello everybody

Firstly, the response to our recent request for confirmation from 
members

who wish us to remain on the service has been phenomenal, and we are very
grateful for that, thank you. However, there's just one slight problem 
with

the responses we've received from some members. In the original request, I
did make it clear that we require the email addresses of those who wish to
remain on the list, and I asked for the address to be placed in the body 
of

the message.


In some cases, we have received mail with subject lines such as "Stay",

"Yes", and similar things. Also those messages and others besides didn't
contain the address within the body of the message. If you think that you
may be one of those who omitted to place their address within the body of
their request, would you mind please repeating the exercise, this time
making sure to include your address within the main body of the message;
email address, I mean, not your geographical address. :) it would also be
helpful if you'd add a meaningful subject line such as "I'd Like to stay
on", which ever list or lists you wish to remain with.


If you take more than one of our groups, such as Mac Access and

Techno-Chat, please feel free to include both in the same message if you
wish. Again, if you are one of those who did put their email address in 
the
body of your message, and if you made it clear which list or lists you 
wish

to remain a member of, then you may safely disregard this request.


Thank you for your time, and my apologies for the repeated request to

those of you who either complied with the original address or who do not
wish to be ported over.


Finally, as I said, the response has been phenomenal and we appreciate

that. Please understand that we don't have the time to respond to them all
individually. Be assured, however, that your request has been noted and 
will

be acted on shortly. When the new list is created, you may receive a
greeting message from the server. Please don't respond to that message, 
and

please just wait for one of us to announce that the new list has gone live
before you post to it. Gordon is, as I speak, working on the project. We
have today acquired new hardware and he's in the process of deploying and
configuring it all as I write.


Warmest regards

Lynne

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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMacProblem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Thank you Sarah.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording 
withMacProblem



Cool I'm glad you got it working.  I wish you the very best in your 
semester regarding classes.


Be blessed.
On Jun 30, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Dear David, I have now resolved my problem regarding my Open University 
tutorial recording.  To access it without Voice Over, I landed on the 
Accept button using VO and then lockedown the mouse, hope that is the 
correct term. Then turned off VO once the mouse was locked in position. 
Finally and I am not sure why but I did the lockdown keyboard commands 
again, spacebar+command+VO+tab and immediately the tutorial started 
playing.  I was then able to turn on VO again and all was well. Thank you 
for all the suggestions.  Have downloaded the Chrome but not the add-on 
yet.  Did not need to use it but no harm in having it there as an 
additional browser.


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 


To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac 
Problem



I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the 
quality

of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility 
Team.


I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the 
Google
Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be 
used
instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to 
consider.

This is a little bit of a learning curve.
I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover 
on

first to see if that replicates the problem.
If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then 
install
the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that 
makes
the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using 
chrome
and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome 
and

is not a general screen reader.
Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University 
are

completely incorrect.
There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.

There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines 
for
Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general 
screen

reading option for the Mac.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha 
Burke

Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording 
withMac

Problem

Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an 
Apple
Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there 
is

software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice
Over. Is this correct?
- Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 


To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording 
withMac

Problem



Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with 
Mac

Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen 
will

change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 

wrote:


Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the 
whole

point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the

relevant

button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the
Video
playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window
and
then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of 
busy

messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem

Re: List Membership You need to find another method

[eleanor martha burke]

absolutely

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 1 Jul 2014, at 23:02, "wayne17a"  wrote:
> 
>Hi first of all the first email stated reply to support@mac-access
> not the list so that sounds professional to me if only people would read
> emails
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:22 AM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: List Membership You need to find another method
> 
> Me likewise Debbie.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Debbie April Yuille" 
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:29 AM
> Subject: RE: List Membership You need to find another method
> 
> 
>> I thought we were supposed to write to the support address, that's what I
>> did.
>> 
>> Debbie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
>> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 9:28 AM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: List Membership You need to find another method
>> 
>> Just an FYI for those of us you receive this list in an single email for
>> every message, I think it was wrong of you to ask everyone wishing to stay
>> on the list to email the list with their email as you have flooded my 
>> email
>> with a ton of messages that are of no concern to me. I understand you
>> wanting to keep people on your list but you have turned me off to the list
>> and I can care less if this causes you to remove me from the list, but
>> asking everyone to reply to an open thread with their email that the 
>> entire
>> list is receiving it wrong, and you need to find another way to run your
>> list.
>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am one of the guilty people.
>>> I would like to stay on the Mac Access list. I would also like to know 
>>> how
>> to subscribe to technochat.
>>> 
>>> E-Mail address is:
>>> khwi...@gmail.org.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for all that you help to do.
>>> 
>>> Kristeen
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everybody
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly, the response to our recent request for confirmation from 
>>>> members
>> who wish us to remain on the service has been phenomenal, and we are very
>> grateful for that, thank you. However, there's just one slight problem 
>> with
>> the responses we've received from some members. In the original request, I
>> did make it clear that we require the email addresses of those who wish to
>> remain on the list, and I asked for the address to be placed in the body 
>> of
>> the message.
>>>> 
>>>> In some cases, we have received mail with subject lines such as "Stay",
>> "Yes", and similar things. Also those messages and others besides didn't
>> contain the address within the body of the message. If you think that you
>> may be one of those who omitted to place their address within the body of
>> their request, would you mind please repeating the exercise, this time
>> making sure to include your address within the main body of the message;
>> email address, I mean, not your geographical address. :) it would also be
>> helpful if you'd add a meaningful subject line such as "I'd Like to stay
>> on", which ever list or lists you wish to remain with.
>>>> 
>>>> If you take more than one of our groups, such as Mac Access and
>> Techno-Chat, please feel free to include both in the same message if you
>> wish. Again, if you are one of those who did put their email address in 
>> the
>> body of your message, and if you made it clear which list or lists you 
>> wish
>> to remain a member of, then you may safely disregard this request.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your time, and my apologies for the repeated request to
>> those of you who either complied with the original address or who do not
>> wish to be ported over.
>>>> 
>>>> Finally, as I said, the response has been phenomenal and we appreciate
>> that. Please understand that we don't have the time to respond to them all
>> individually. Be assured, however, that your request has been noted and 
>> will
>> be 

Reading A Document in Pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, 2 questions here for you.
First off if I am reading in continuous mode and the document is long, say a 
chapter of a book, then after 40 minutes I press Ctrl to stop the reading. 
I am wondering if it is possible to put a marker at this point in the 
document so that next time I open it, I can go directly to where I stopped 
the reading.
Second question is about verbosity.  In a text book there are for example 
many bullett points and Tables too, now is there a way to reduce verbosity 
so as not to have all this additional information regarding formatting read 
out?  At present I have not made any alteration to my verbosity because as a 
beginner I have just left the setting on its default.


Eleanor 


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Re: Reading A Document in Pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Ah David I am smiling, I never knew someone had the same method of 
bookmarking as myself.  It works fine with my Supernova in Windows and Word. 
Now what I wanted was in my lazy manner having the document read to me and 
where I stop it in a chapter does it stop where I can insert my ***?  If so 
then that is brilliant and I would not move away from this method.  As for 
finding the bookmark in Pages, how do I execute the Find command?


Yes then I will alter the verbosity to medium and see how I get on with 
that.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "David Griffith" 

To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Reading A Document in Pages


In relation to your first question the quick and dirty method of 
bookmarking

I use in all Word Processor programs  is to simply type in ***  as the
bookmark marker.  I delete this after use or save it if I want multiple
bookmarks. I simply use the find command to locate this string the next 
time

I want to jump straight there. I find this quicker and easier than any
inbuilt bookmark facility and even where these exist I prefer to use my 
***

method.

In relation to verbosity I would suggest experimenting with setting your
verbosity level to medium. You are a more experienced Mac User now. I do 
not

know if it will do what you want but I find it a more convenient and less
intrusive setting generally and it is easy to revert to high verbosity if 
it

does not suit you.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha 
Burke

Sent: 02 July 2014 18:46
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Reading A Document in Pages

Hi All, 2 questions here for you.
First off if I am reading in continuous mode and the document is long, say 
a


chapter of a book, then after 40 minutes I press Ctrl to stop the reading.
I am wondering if it is possible to put a marker at this point in the
document so that next time I open it, I can go directly to where I stopped
the reading.
Second question is about verbosity.  In a text book there are for example
many bullett points and Tables too, now is there a way to reduce verbosity
so as not to have all this additional information regarding formatting 
read
out?  At present I have not made any alteration to my verbosity because as 
a


beginner I have just left the setting on its default.

Eleanor

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Re: Reading A Document in Pages

[eleanor martha burke]

What a bad command F then

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 2 Jul 2014, at 22:01, "David Griffith"  wrote:
> 
> Yes for avoidance of doubt VO F generally works as find across multiple
> applications.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
> Sent: 02 July 2014 21:29
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Reading A Document in Pages
> 
> the voiceover+f might work. LOL, substitutions.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>  wrote:
> 
>> Ah David I am smiling, I never knew someone had the same method of
> bookmarking as myself.  It works fine with my Supernova in Windows and Word.
> Now what I wanted was in my lazy manner having the document read to me and
> where I stop it in a chapter does it stop where I can insert my ***?  If so
> then that is brilliant and I would not move away from this method.  As for
> finding the bookmark in Pages, how do I execute the Find command?
>> 
>> Yes then I will alter the verbosity to medium and see how I get on with
> that.
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith"
> 
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:52 PM
>> Subject: RE: Reading A Document in Pages
>> 
>> 
>>> In relation to your first question the quick and dirty method of
> bookmarking
>>> I use in all Word Processor programs  is to simply type in ***  as the
>>> bookmark marker.  I delete this after use or save it if I want multiple
>>> bookmarks. I simply use the find command to locate this string the next
> time
>>> I want to jump straight there. I find this quicker and easier than any
>>> inbuilt bookmark facility and even where these exist I prefer to use my
> ***
>>> method.
>>> 
>>> In relation to verbosity I would suggest experimenting with setting your
>>> verbosity level to medium. You are a more experienced Mac User now. I do
> not
>>> know if it will do what you want but I find it a more convenient and less
>>> intrusive setting generally and it is easy to revert to high verbosity if
> it
>>> does not suit you.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha
> Burke
>>> Sent: 02 July 2014 18:46
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Reading A Document in Pages
>>> 
>>> Hi All, 2 questions here for you.
>>> First off if I am reading in continuous mode and the document is long,
> say a
>>> 
>>> chapter of a book, then after 40 minutes I press Ctrl to stop the
> reading.
>>> I am wondering if it is possible to put a marker at this point in the
>>> document so that next time I open it, I can go directly to where I
> stopped
>>> the reading.
>>> Second question is about verbosity.  In a text book there are for example
>>> many bullett points and Tables too, now is there a way to reduce
> verbosity
>>> so as not to have all this additional information regarding formatting
> read
>>> out?  At present I have not made any alteration to my verbosity because
> as a
>>> 
>>> beginner I have just left the setting on its default.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
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Backing Up My Mac Book Air

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to back up 
my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo settings also. 
Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, would that be 
sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite drive.  At present I am 
more concerned with backing up my vo settings rather than having a lot of 
data on the Mac.



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Calandar Widget Annoying

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All for no reason at all, I must be touching something that activates the 
Calandar Widget and it pops up right in front of me when I don't want it. 
In fact I never use it as I do not keep my appointments that way.  I know 
before when I first got the Mac I did disable widgets but obviously not this 
one.  How do others resolve this problem?  I know an experienced Mac user 
and he says he gets the same but he did not know how I should resolve it. 


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Transferring Data and Settings from Mac Book Air to Mac Book Pro

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, rather than having to configure all over again! a Mac Book Pro, I am 
wondering if there is a way of transferring overything from Mac Book Air to 
the Pro? 


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Re: Calandar Widget Annoying

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Thank you for this and for the information regarding the backing-up.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Calandar Widget Annoying


You can disable wigits and the dash board completely in system prefs, 
keyboard, then shortcuts, then highlight the mission control tab. I'm 
doing this from memory so it might not be there, now just uncheck 
everything and you should be good to go.
On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi All for no reason at all, I must be touching something that activates 
the Calandar Widget and it pops up right in front of me when I don't want 
it. In fact I never use it as I do not keep my appointments that way.  I 
know before when I first got the Mac I did disable widgets but obviously 
not this one.  How do others resolve this problem?  I know an experienced 
Mac user and he says he gets the same but he did not know how I should 
resolve it.

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Re: Transferring Data and Settings from Mac Book Air to Mac Book Pro

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Thanks again Sarah.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Transferring Data and Settings from Mac Book Air to Mac Book 
Pro



You can use the migration assistent on your mac book pro to transfer 
everything from yoru mac book air. I'm not sure what kind of cable you 
need to do this with as I've never done it. Hopefully someone can give you 
instructions on how to do this.


Good luck.
On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi All, rather than having to configure all over again! a Mac Book Pro, I 
am wondering if there is a way of transferring overything from Mac Book 
Air to the Pro?

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Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air

[eleanor martha burke]

I am still not clear from your wristbands if all my voice-over setting back up 
also when you say about the disk being formatted do I have to format my 
external hard drive on a Mac currently it has some Windows files on it such as 
Word documents

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:48, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello.  To back up your mac, go to sysrem prefs, then to time machine. Now 
> choose your disk if it is formatted  properly, then  follow the prompts. I 
> normally just have it back up everything then taylor it later to my needs.
> 
> Good luck.
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to back up 
>> my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo settings also. 
>> Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, would that be 
>> sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite drive.  At present I am 
>> more concerned with backing up my vo settings rather than having a lot of 
>> data on the Mac.
>> 
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Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Great thanks Sarah.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air


When I say formatted I really do mean formatted correctly. It has to be 
formatted to ntfs mac osx extended journaled.. It is best to start off 
with a blank hard drive. everything will be backed up. vo settings, app 
and their settings, pics, everything.


You will if you format now loose everything so what I would do is copy 
everything you don't' want to loose off on to somewhere else then reformat 
the rive via disk utility and only use that drive for the time machine 
back up.


I have a 1 tb drive that's as loud as all get out that is used  for a time 
machine back up and it works well.


Hope  that helps.
On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 wrote:


I am still not clear from your wristbands if all my voice-over setting 
back up also when you say about the disk being formatted do I have to 
format my external hard drive on a Mac currently it has some Windows 
files on it such as Word documents


Eleanor Martha Burke


On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:48, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello.  To back up your mac, go to sysrem prefs, then to time machine. 
Now choose your disk if it is formatted  properly, then  follow the 
prompts. I normally just have it back up everything then taylor it later 
to my needs.


Good luck.
On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to 
back up my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo 
settings also. Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, 
would that be sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite drive. 
At present I am more concerned with backing up my vo settings rather 
than having a lot of data on the Mac.



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VO Announcing Page Numbers in Pages When Reading A Document

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Is there a setting where I can get VO to announce page numbers, for example 
if it is a 30 page document, I would just like to know it was moving from 
page one to two etc.
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Carello" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air


Hello Eleanor. here is an article from apple on how to migrate using 
mavericks. It shows how to do it several ways I think I hope this helps.


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5872
On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 wrote:


I am still not clear from your wristbands if all my voice-over setting 
back up also when you say about the disk being formatted do I have to 
format my external hard drive on a Mac currently it has some Windows 
files on it such as Word documents


Eleanor Martha Burke


On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:48, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello.  To back up your mac, go to sysrem prefs, then to time machine. 
Now choose your disk if it is formatted  properly, then  follow the 
prompts. I normally just have it back up everything then taylor it later 
to my needs.


Good luck.
On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to 
back up my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo 
settings also. Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, 
would that be sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite drive. 
At present I am more concerned with backing up my vo settings rather 
than having a lot of data on the Mac.



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Pages - Reading A document

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

When I am reading a document in Pages I have vo say things like exited list, 
page holder, I can understand the exited list but the place holder is 
something I could do without having to listen to from time to time.  Again 
when there are bullet points vo will announce bullett bullett etc and again 
something about place holder.  Now I did make an activity to put verbosity 
to minimum when reading a table but how can I cut down on this verbosity?
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: VO Announcing Page Numbers in Pages When Reading A Document


Hello Eleanor,

If you navigate through a Pages document by sentence or paragraph, VO wil 
announce the page number as you go on to a new page.


If you use VO-a to read continuously, you’ll hear the page change sound but 
no page number will be announce. However, if you pause the reading, VO-F3 
will tell you the page number.


Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Jul 2014, at 21:28, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:


Is there a setting where I can get VO to announce page numbers, for 
example if it is a 30 page document, I would just like to know it was 
moving from page one to two etc.
- Original Message - From: "Matthew Carello" 


To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Backing Up My Mac Book Air


Hello Eleanor. here is an article from apple on how to migrate using 
mavericks. It shows how to do it several ways I think I hope this helps.


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5872
On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:35 AM, eleanor martha burke 
 wrote:


I am still not clear from your wristbands if all my voice-over setting 
back up also when you say about the disk being formatted do I have to 
format my external hard drive on a Mac currently it has some Windows 
files on it such as Word documents


Eleanor Martha Burke


On 3 Jul 2014, at 16:48, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello.  To back up your mac, go to sysrem prefs, then to time machine. 
Now choose your disk if it is formatted  properly, then  follow the 
prompts. I normally just have it back up everything then taylor it 
later to my needs.


Good luck.
On Jul 3, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Hi All, would someone kindly go through the various steps for me to 
back up my Mac.  Presumably in backing-up this will retain all my vo 
settings also. Is this correct?  I have a 125GB external hard drive, 
would that be sufficient or alternatively I could use a Terabite 
drive. At present I am more concerned with backing up my vo settings 
rather than having a lot of data on the Mac.



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Re: Reading A Document in Pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

OK I have now got the Find to work but in order to get back to my text I 
have pressed the Escape button, is this correct?  I am referrring to the 
item I have found and continuing from there.  I presume if I find that in my 
first search it is not what I am looking for and I bring up the Find box 
again, I must execute the Cmd F command again.  Is this correct also?
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: Reading A Document in Pages


Cmd-f works fine, too. Also, why not create an activity with low verbosity 
and other tweaks to keep extra information to a minimum?


Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Reading A Document in Pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Thanks Anne.
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Reading A Document in Pages


Hello Eleanor,

When I use Cmd-f to find text, I click the Done button and I’m back in the 
text with the first result of the Find highlighted. To find the next 
occurrence, I press Cmd-g and the next one is highlighted. As far as I know, 
all Mac Find commands use the letter ‘g’ to go straight to the next 
occurrence.


Cheers,

Anne


On 5 Jul 2014, at 16:26, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:


OK I have now got the Find to work but in order to get back to my text I 
have pressed the Escape button, is this correct?  I am referrring to the 
item I have found and continuing from there.  I presume if I find that in 
my first search it is not what I am looking for and I bring up the Find 
box again, I must execute the Cmd F command again.  Is this correct also?
- 

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General Mac Query - A Clarification

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, I have been coming to terms with a Mac for over 6 weeks now on a 
daily basis and a little before that from time to time.  However there are 
some concepts I really cannot come to work out which by now should be fairly 
obvious to me.  Hope someone can clarify these for me.


At this point I would like to say I have good experience of Windows and it 
is because of this I am finding some of these Mac concepts difficult rather 
than them being intuitive.


Here goes then,

1. I think as a rule of thumb quic nav is mainly used for navagating the web 
but not otherwise.  Is this correct?
2. While I know that single key navagation can be used with the tab key, I 
cannot work out when I need to tab and when I need to vo right arrow.
3. Interacting and uninteracting, I just don't know when and when not to do 
this.  When someone has guided me they have said to interact and now 
uninteract, left to my own devices I cannot make a decision as to when to 
interact and when not to.


Sorry if these are silly questions but I think once I have clarification on 
these I will have moved forward quite a pace with my Mac. 


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Re: Opening K3000

[eleanor martha burke]

Is that something one has to set up in the trackpad commanders

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 6 Jul 2014, at 18:23, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I literally did mean click. I have a track pad on my laptop so I just clicked 
> the track pad whilst holding down the control key. 
>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Now I’m curious;  How do you do the click part of the command?
>> I opened it with the vo shift m.
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can either literely control  click or vo shift m on the app and hit 
>>> open.
>>> 
>>> This bypasses the gate keeper. 
>>> 
>>> Take care and hth some what. 
>>>> On Jul 5, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Juaanita Marttin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I downloaded the free trial of K3000 but I get a message saying that Apple 
>>>> doesn’t recognize it from the app store.  The work around says something 
>>>> about the control key and the group icon used to open the program.  Can 
>>>> someone translate what that means?
>>>> 
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Re: Opening K3000

[eleanor martha burke]

no problem sorry

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 6 Jul 2014, at 18:32, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Actually we are talkign of gate keeper and how to by pass it. This was her 
> original question as her gate keeper is set about as high as it can go. . 
>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone when opening any application, do the following:
>> You can press command oh, you can press control option space, alternatively, 
>> you can swipe until you reach the application, and double tap with one 
>> finger on the trackpad.  
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