Re: safari right click problem

[Bryan Jones]

This is a known bug. I am sometimes able to work around it by interacting with 
the bogus link or by bringing the mouse pointer and performing an actual 
Control+Click.

HTH,
Bryan

On Oct 9, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:
> In safari, using both mountain lion and mavericks I keep coming across this 
> problem. When landing on a link, especially in google search results, a right 
> click on the link sometimes allows me to do extended actions such as open in 
> new page and sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't it only gives me the 
> option to look up or refresh. It's as if the cursor has not focused on the 
> link but is staying on the whole web page. Is this a known bug and is there 
> any work around?

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Re: Safari Reader help

[Sarah k Alawami]

To access your reading list it's I believe cmd shift l. This is a toggle and  
if it is on there will be 2 html areas.  One is your reading list and one is 
your regular safari window. I hope that helps get your started.
On May 28, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Gordon Keen  wrote:

> 
> On 28 May 2014, at 15:57, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> It is not available 100% of the time on any web site…
> (snipped for brevity )
> 
>> 
> On those that fail to read I use v+o u and arrow across to headers, select 
> the article you want to read using v+o space bar and then v+o a to read all 
> of the article, it ain’t pretty but it works for me.
> 
> 
> hth
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Re: Safari Reader help

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On 28 May 2014, at 15:57, David Griffith  wrote:

> It is not available 100% of the time on any web site…
(snipped for brevity )

>  
On those that fail to read I use v+o u and arrow across to headers, select the 
article you want to read using v+o space bar and then v+o a to read all of the 
article, it ain’t pretty but it works for me.


hth

G

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RE: Safari Reader help

[David Griffith]

It is not available 100% of the time on any web site but some sites appear
to work better than others.
Go to www.bbc.co.uk/news 

And then navigate down to one of the headings linking to a news story. Hit
the link and when the page opens simply hit command shift R. Nearly all of
the time Safari Reader  will simply start reading the important text from
the opened page without you having to navigate all the junk links etc.

The same function is available in iOS Safari but you have to hit the reader
button there. 
David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
Sent: 28 May 2014 15:26
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Safari Reader help

Hi,

I'm a bit confused actually.  In a previous conversation someone said
they liked to add articles from Vienna to "Safari Reader".  So I
carried on using that phrase.  Now I notice Vienna actually calls that
option "add to Safari reading list".  So now looking at it yes this is
where my articles are listed.  It seems useful but I seem to get stuck
in it sometimes and not be able to get focused back on other tabs/bits
of the window.

Would like to try and get the Safari Reader working as well though but
every time I look at it in the menu it's dimmed.  Does this just
depend on the website or is there something I need to do to enable it
or something?  Could anyone send me an url which should work with the
Reader so I can see if it's working?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/28/14, David Griffith  wrote:
> I think Safari Reader is something different from the Reading List.
>
> The Reader with Command shift R is a brilliant feature where Safari will
> strip aloud all the extraneous links etc. and simply read the important
> contents of say a news article to you.
>
> So if I go to say a BBC News Page story  I routinely just hit command
shift
> R on that page and Voiceover will read out the important text of that page
> to me without me having to take any further action.
>
> This is instant and is completely different, as far as I am aware, of
> saving
> content to a reading list.
>
> Safari will not always have the ability to provide Reader functions on all
> pages as it depends on how the page is constructed.
>
>
> David Griffith
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
> Sent: 28 May 2014 00:13
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Safari Reader help
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering how to use Safari reader.  .  In Vienna I did "add to safari
> reading list" for one article , now I wonder how I get to
> that article in Safari?  I can find the "toggle reader" item in the
> toolbar, and I can find select previous/next items in reading list
> from the bookmarks menu but these items are dimmed.  Does that mean
> the article hasn't been added to the reading list?  Or is there
> something else I need to do?
>
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: Safari Reader help

[Catherine Turner]

Hi,

I'm a bit confused actually.  In a previous conversation someone said
they liked to add articles from Vienna to "Safari Reader".  So I
carried on using that phrase.  Now I notice Vienna actually calls that
option "add to Safari reading list".  So now looking at it yes this is
where my articles are listed.  It seems useful but I seem to get stuck
in it sometimes and not be able to get focused back on other tabs/bits
of the window.

Would like to try and get the Safari Reader working as well though but
every time I look at it in the menu it's dimmed.  Does this just
depend on the website or is there something I need to do to enable it
or something?  Could anyone send me an url which should work with the
Reader so I can see if it's working?

Thanks,
Catherine

On 5/28/14, David Griffith  wrote:
> I think Safari Reader is something different from the Reading List.
>
> The Reader with Command shift R is a brilliant feature where Safari will
> strip aloud all the extraneous links etc. and simply read the important
> contents of say a news article to you.
>
> So if I go to say a BBC News Page story  I routinely just hit command shift
> R on that page and Voiceover will read out the important text of that page
> to me without me having to take any further action.
>
> This is instant and is completely different, as far as I am aware, of
> saving
> content to a reading list.
>
> Safari will not always have the ability to provide Reader functions on all
> pages as it depends on how the page is constructed.
>
>
> David Griffith
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
> Sent: 28 May 2014 00:13
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Safari Reader help
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering how to use Safari reader.  .  In Vienna I did "add to safari
> reading list" for one article , now I wonder how I get to
> that article in Safari?  I can find the "toggle reader" item in the
> toolbar, and I can find select previous/next items in reading list
> from the bookmarks menu but these items are dimmed.  Does that mean
> the article hasn't been added to the reading list?  Or is there
> something else I need to do?
>
> Thanks,
> Catherine
>
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RE: Safari Reader help

[David Griffith]

I think Safari Reader is something different from the Reading List.

The Reader with Command shift R is a brilliant feature where Safari will
strip aloud all the extraneous links etc. and simply read the important
contents of say a news article to you.

So if I go to say a BBC News Page story  I routinely just hit command shift
R on that page and Voiceover will read out the important text of that page
to me without me having to take any further action.

This is instant and is completely different, as far as I am aware, of saving
content to a reading list.

Safari will not always have the ability to provide Reader functions on all
pages as it depends on how the page is constructed.


David Griffith



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Turner
Sent: 28 May 2014 00:13
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Safari Reader help

Hi,

I'm wondering how to use Safari reader.  .  In Vienna I did "add to safari
reading list" for one article , now I wonder how I get to
that article in Safari?  I can find the "toggle reader" item in the
toolbar, and I can find select previous/next items in reading list
from the bookmarks menu but these items are dimmed.  Does that mean
the article hasn't been added to the reading list?  Or is there
something else I need to do?

Thanks,
Catherine

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Re: Safari Reader help

[Sarah k Alawami]

The safari reader actually stripps  out the adds and junk on the page to make 
it easier to, well, read.  I have never relyed on the off line safari reader as 
I have had articles disappear on me even on my ios device where they are 
supsoed to be synced as  well.

I think this question was asked on the list a few years ago but I don't think 
the person ever got an answer.

Btw do you mean the safari reader you accessed with cmd shift r?

Take care.
On May 27, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Catherine Turner 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering how to use Safari reader.  .  In Vienna I did "add to safari
> reading list" for one article , now I wonder how I get to
> that article in Safari?  I can find the "toggle reader" item in the
> toolbar, and I can find select previous/next items in reading list
> from the bookmarks menu but these items are dimmed.  Does that mean
> the article hasn't been added to the reading list?  Or is there
> something else I need to do?
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: Safari And Chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello. got an answer from the chrome access list.  Apparentl there rare some 
extensions.

Here is the guy's response.

>> Never tested these, but try : 
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tweet-button-for-chrome-b/homldgnlpldcmdflhnabedgkgpmeanhd
>> 
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-%2B1-button/jgoepmocgafhnchmokaimcmlojpnlkhp
>> 
>> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/send-from-gmail-by-google/pgphcomnlaojlmmcjmiddhdapjpbgeoc
>> 
>> These all look pretty cool. Will definitely try these out and let you know 
>> how they work a11y wise.


Take care

On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Ask away!
> On 10 Mar 2014, at 8:18 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> I can't find it either, but that does not mean it's there. I can ask on the 
>> chrome list I'm on if need be.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> One feature I really like in Safari is the "Share" menu item available in 
>>> the File Menu and from the toolbar, the feature lets you share the current 
>>> page via Facebook, Twitter, Message and so on.
>>> 
>>> I can't seem to find a similar function in Google Chrome, does such a 
>>> function exist?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
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Re: Safari And Chrome

[Sean Murphy]

Sarah, 

What is the chrome mail list?

On 10 Mar 2014, at 8:18 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I can't find it either, but that does not mean it's there. I can ask on the 
> chrome list I'm on if need be.
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> One feature I really like in Safari is the "Share" menu item available in 
>> the File Menu and from the toolbar, the feature lets you share the current 
>> page via Facebook, Twitter, Message and so on.
>> 
>> I can't seem to find a similar function in Google Chrome, does such a 
>> function exist?
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
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Re: Safari And Chrome

[Dane Trethowan]

Ask away!
On 10 Mar 2014, at 8:18 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I can't find it either, but that does not mean it's there. I can ask on the 
> chrome list I'm on if need be.
> 
> Take care.
> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> One feature I really like in Safari is the "Share" menu item available in 
>> the File Menu and from the toolbar, the feature lets you share the current 
>> page via Facebook, Twitter, Message and so on.
>> 
>> I can't seem to find a similar function in Google Chrome, does such a 
>> function exist?
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
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Re: Safari And Chrome

[Sarah k Alawami]

I can't find it either, but that does not mean it's there. I can ask on the 
chrome list I'm on if need be.

Take care.
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Re: Safari quitting

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Juanita,

When I encounter similar problems I often try a different web browser such as 
the nightly build of Webkit available here: http://nightly.webkit.org

HTH,
Bryan

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> shut down, and nothing fixed the problem.

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Re: Safari quitting

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No, it kept crashing in about the same place.  I did a force quit, restarted, 
shut down, and nothing fixed the problem.

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> I'm thinking it's a bad script.  I've had these issues wen I took  surveys 
> from my college.  the page did not crash and I was able to complete it 
> though, in your case were you able to do the same?
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> Take care. 
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Re: Safari quitting

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I'm thinking it's a bad script.  I've had these issues wen I took  surveys from 
my college.  the page did not crash and I was able to complete it though, in 
your case were you able to do the same?

Take care. 
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Re: Safari Power Saver

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On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Okay, what about today's SSD drives? I suspect the whole process  
would be pretty much instant.




SSd drives are disk storage, they have nothing more to do with memory  
than a standard harddrive does.  They're storage media, nothing more.
Sure, writing to and reading from them is extremely fast, compared to  
most other types of drives, but regardless, they're not memory such as  
what the computer uses to run your programs, and so wouldn't play into  
the whole compressing memory thing.


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Re: Safari Power Saver

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Okay, what about today's SSD drives? I suspect the whole process would be 
pretty much instant.


On 13 Jan 2014, at 8:37 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> 
> On Jan 8, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> 
>> One of the things the Power Saver does is to compress memory on the fly when 
>> memory starts getting low thus providing more memory for other applications.
> 
> This is a terrible idea.  This was tried many years ago in the dos era, and 
> it failed miserably.  I expect it will do the same here.  IMO, compressing 
> data in memory is *not* the way to go.  most unix oses already swap out 
> unused programs, which is sometimes why when you switch back to a program 
> you've not been using for a while, it takes a short time before it comes up, 
> because it needs to swap the program back into memory before it can run.  
> This truly is the best way to handle memory management.  It's a proven and 
> reliable technology, and has been used for almost as many years as unix has 
> been around.  Compressing existing memory is just asking for trouble, because 
> of the multiple methods of accessing memory, if a program asks for a segment 
> of memory that is compressed, and it doesn't ask in a way the compressor 
> understands, then it's going to fail fantastically, and nobody's going to be 
> able to figure out why (for a while at least).  These sorts of things are 
> what make 
 neat ideas on paper, but have horrible results in practice.
> If it works for you, be happy, but I'd not expect it to work all the time for 
> everything, and eventually, one of those times it isn't going to work is when 
> you'll need it the most *not* to fail.
> I'd personally stay away from this feature, but that's just me.  I'm sure 
> apple tested this feature, and feel it's ready for primetime use, but when I 
> manage to upgrade to mavericks, That's one feature I won't be activating.
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Re: Safari Power Saver

[Travis Siegel]

On Jan 8, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:


One of the things the Power Saver does is to compress memory on the  
fly when memory starts getting low thus providing more memory for  
other applications.


This is a terrible idea.  This was tried many years ago in the dos  
era, and it failed miserably.  I expect it will do the same here.   
IMO, compressing data in memory is *not* the way to go.  most unix  
oses already swap out unused programs, which is sometimes why when you  
switch back to a program you've not been using for a while, it takes a  
short time before it comes up, because it needs to swap the program  
back into memory before it can run.  This truly is the best way to  
handle memory management.  It's a proven and reliable technology, and  
has been used for almost as many years as unix has been around.   
Compressing existing memory is just asking for trouble, because of the  
multiple methods of accessing memory, if a program asks for a segment  
of memory that is compressed, and it doesn't ask in a way the  
compressor understands, then it's going to fail fantastically, and  
nobody's going to be able to figure out why (for a while at least).   
These sorts of things are what make neat ideas on paper, but have  
horrible results in practice.
If it works for you, be happy, but I'd not expect it to work all the  
time for everything, and eventually, one of those times it isn't going  
to work is when you'll need it the most *not* to fail.
I'd personally stay away from this feature, but that's just me.  I'm  
sure apple tested this feature, and feel it's ready for primetime use,  
but when I manage to upgrade to mavericks, That's one feature I won't  
be activating.


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Re: Safari Power Saver

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I did suspect that but wasn't entirely sure as the article I read - though it 
mentioned the new Macbook Air - didn't say that this feature was specific to 
those machines so thanks for clearing that up.

On 9 Jan 2014, at 9:34 am, Haghighi,Amin  wrote:

> This is for the new mac books only.
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> Hi!
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> Hope I recalled the name of this feature correctly .
> 
> Was wondering if anyone knew about this feature which has been introduced 
> into OSX Mavericks, I looked it up on the Apple OSX Knowledge base and its 
> fascinating the way its supposed to work to say the least.
> 
> The article I read talks about the function working with Macbook Air 
> computers so I'm wondering if it would work at all with a 2011 model iMac 
> machine?
> 
> One of the things the Power Saver does is to compress memory on the fly when 
> memory starts getting low thus providing more memory for other applications.
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RE: Safari Power Saver

[Haghighi,Amin]

This is for the new mac books only.

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Subject: Safari Power Saver

Hi!

Hope I recalled the name of this feature correctly .

Was wondering if anyone knew about this feature which has been introduced into 
OSX Mavericks, I looked it up on the Apple OSX Knowledge base and its 
fascinating the way its supposed to work to say the least.

The article I read talks about the function working with Macbook Air computers 
so I'm wondering if it would work at all with a 2011 model iMac machine?

One of the things the Power Saver does is to compress memory on the fly when 
memory starts getting low thus providing more memory for other applications.



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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

[Bryan Jones]

An update to my note about Webkit versions: After installing today's Webkit 
Nightly builds, the headings issues *appear* to be resolved for me on both ML & 
Mavericks. With this current version I am not experiencing the following 
headings issues, though they still exist in Safari & Chrome Canary: Google 
search results were showing just a few items under headings; Comments in 
Applevis postings were displaying the comment number with no associated heading 
text; Amazon search results were displaying just a small part of each heading.

YMMV, use at your own risk, etc. Other things might be broken in these versions.

The version numbers reported are:

On ML:
Version 6.1 (8537.71, 538+)

On Mavericks:
Version 7.0 (9537.71, 538+)

HTH,
Bryan

On Nov 3, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In 
> fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based 
> browsers Chrome & Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current 
> webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped 
> into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar 
> behavior under Mavericks.
> 
> I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
> installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
> find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1

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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

[Esther]

Hi All,

I'm not sure whether it's possible to downgrade from Safari 6.1 if you're 
running Mavericks, where this is Safari 7.0, but people who have been running 
Mountain Lion who want to revert to Safari 6.0.5 have been able to reinstall 
the operating system from the recovery partition by pressing Command+R on 
startup.  This boots up from the recovery partition, and replaces the stock Mac 
apps with the versions in the recovery partition, and does not affect your 
third party apps.  I don't remember how accessible this process was, since I 
made a bootable USB drive for both Lion and Mountain Lion.  Apparently, Time 
Machine backups may not easily work here, since you'd have to also fix the 
bookkeeping of your currently installed apps.  And I don't know what happens if 
you try this under Lion.

This is one of the reasons that I like to make full bootable clone backups 
periodically.

Apparently, quite a lot of people don't like Safari 6.1, since there are many 
posts in the Apple Support forums from people trying to roll back.

Cheers,

Esther

> 
> On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In 
>> fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based 
>> browsers Chrome & Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current 
>> webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped 
>> into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing 
>> similar behavior under Mavericks.
>> 
>> I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
>> installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
>> find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
>>> same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
>>> headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know 
>>> there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces 
>>> only two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.
>> 
> 
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[Zachary Kline]

Hi Brian,
Interesting. I don’t listen to web page summaries, so never noticed this 
behavior. I always just start navigating with quicknav or vo-cmd keys, and it 
works. That’s definitely a weird bug.
Best,
Zack.
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> Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In 
> fact, I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based 
> browsers Chrome & Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current 
> webkit code. It wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped 
> into webkit. As I reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar 
> behavior under Mavericks.
> 
> I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
> installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
> find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1
> 
> Bryan
> 
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:
> 
>> I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
>> same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
>> headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know 
>> there are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only 
>> two headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.
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[Bryan Jones]

Yes, I can confirm this behavior is happening on my 2011 MBA under ML. In fact, 
I can replicate it with the latest versions of other Webkit-based browsers 
Chrome & Webkit Nightly, so perhaps it is a flaw in the current webkit code. It 
wouldn’t be the first time this particular bug has slipped into webkit. As I 
reported previously on this list, I am experiencing similar behavior under 
Mavericks.

I’m not sure how to back-level Safari, but perhaps you might have some luck 
installing one of the archived webkit versions from August or Sept. You can 
find them here http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/trunk/mac/1

Bryan

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> I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
> same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
> headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there 
> are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two 
> headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.

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Re: Safari 6.1 bug?

[Brian Fischler]

Yes, I am having the same exact problem, and encounter this header bug when 
using the voiceover rotor but once I exit the rotor and use quick nag I can 
navigate down through the headers. This is yet another very pathetic bug on 
Apple's part and either Voiceover gets little to no testing before any releases 
or the testers testing voiceover are morons.
On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:

> I've just upgraded to Safari 6.1 and I wonder if anyone else has struck the 
> same problem I'm encountering. Now, when I open a web page and ask for 
> headings, Safari only announces one or two headings, even though I know there 
> are more. For example, a Google search results page now announces only two 
> headings, when I know there should be a dozen or so.
> 
> After encountering this poblem, I've tested by trying Safari on another 
> machine. Running the old version of Safari, headings announce fine. As soon 
> as I upgraded to version 6.1, they no longer announced properly.
> 
> Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem? And if not, how easy is it to 
> revert to the previous version of Safari? (I'm running OSX Lion, 10.7.5).
> 
> Thanks,
> Fred
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Re: safari

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Shannon, there is absolutely a way to go through links.  VO U, to access the 
web router, will allow you to not only go through links, it’ll do headings, and 
other things.  Left, and right arrowing, Will allow you to switch between 
links, headings, etc.  Hope this helps. 
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> Greetings, it's Shannon again, the new Mac user. Smile.
> I have heard there is no way of going through links on a safari page, as 
> there is in, say, JFW's links list in Windows. Firstly, is this true?
> and if so, what is the best way to handle a Safari page? I tend to use the 
> track pad or flick through using VO right or left arrows.
> An exampel of my struggle happened today on the New York Times Page. I saw a 
> link that said "single page", which puts the whole article on one page, and 
> this is how I like to read my articles inWindows because you avoid all the 
> junk.
> But in Safari, I could not stop VoiceOver in time and there seemed to be no 
> quick way to get back to the single page link. Any ideas? I turned on 
> keyboard navigation so now if I press h for example I get to headings, but 
> is there anything else I can do?
> And if I may, I also have a question about the reader command. In plowing 
> through Safari preferences, I saw that the reader command was hidden. SoI 
> showed it. So far none of the pages I visit have a reader option. Does VO 
> speak that reader is available like it does on the iPhone?
> There is much I like about Safari, how it comes up and instantaneously plays 
> a video or audio, but navigating through a page gives me a headache. Smile.
> Also my Mac is new, so it's got OS10 and all the latest updates.
> thanks for any help.
> I have been a quiet lurker here over the past month, trying to learn before 
> I made my purchase, and you all are very helpful.
> Shannon 
> 
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RE: safari

[David Griffith]

It is useful and remember it works everywhere  on the Mac and not just in
Safari.

David Griffith

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Subject: Re: safari

Ah, the item chooser. Thanks David, I have not had the need to use this much

on my iPhone, but I suspect it wil be my friend on the Mac.

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Ah, the item chooser. Thanks David, I have not had the need to use this much 
on my iPhone, but I suspect it wil be my friend on the Mac.

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Re: safari

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Thank you Sarah, this helps very much.
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RE: safari

[David Griffith]

You cannot use Reader on every page but many news pages will work fine.
The BBC news pages all work well with Reader and make reading a very good
experience.

David Griffith

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Subject: Re: safari

Hi Zack,
Yes I do know about the web roter and have used it with kind of weird 
results, but I shall keep on a-keepin' on.
Regarding the reader, are you saying that I can use command shift r on any 
page?
Because if that's what you're saying, I shall send you cyber chocolates my 
friend.
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Re: safari

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Shanon,
The reader doesn’t work on every page, sadly. It will work on most articles and 
similar content, and when it does is a huge timesaver. :) It’s also available 
on iOS, if you have an iPhone or similar.
About the web rotor, all I can say is keep fiddling with it. Takes some getting 
used to at first, but it really is the equivalent to insert-f7 and friends.
Best,
Zack.

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> Hi Zack,
> Yes I do know about the web roter and have used it with kind of weird 
> results, but I shall keep on a-keepin' on.
> Regarding the reader, are you saying that I can use command shift r on any 
> page?
> Because if that's what you're saying, I shall send you cyber chocolates my 
> friend.
> Shannon 
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Hi Zack,
Yes I do know about the web roter and have used it with kind of weird 
results, but I shall keep on a-keepin' on.
Regarding the reader, are you saying that I can use command shift r on any 
page?
Because if that's what you're saying, I shall send you cyber chocolates my 
friend.
Shannon 


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Re: safari

[Sarah Alawami]

sure. vo u will take you thorugh the web rotor. just left and right arrow 
through and then up and down arrow then you get to the web element.  Also vo 
cmd l and vo cmd shift l will take you through links on a web page. Ther are a 
lot of useful key strokes wiht voice over and it will take a while to learn but 
it can be done.

> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:43, "Shannon Reece"  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings, it's Shannon again, the new Mac user. Smile.
> I have heard there is no way of going through links on a safari page, as 
> there is in, say, JFW's links list in Windows. Firstly, is this true?
> and if so, what is the best way to handle a Safari page? I tend to use the 
> track pad or flick through using VO right or left arrows.
> An exampel of my struggle happened today on the New York Times Page. I saw a 
> link that said "single page", which puts the whole article on one page, and 
> this is how I like to read my articles inWindows because you avoid all the 
> junk.
> But in Safari, I could not stop VoiceOver in time and there seemed to be no 
> quick way to get back to the single page link. Any ideas? I turned on 
> keyboard navigation so now if I press h for example I get to headings, but 
> is there anything else I can do?
> And if I may, I also have a question about the reader command. In plowing 
> through Safari preferences, I saw that the reader command was hidden. SoI 
> showed it. So far none of the pages I visit have a reader option. Does VO 
> speak that reader is available like it does on the iPhone?
> There is much I like about Safari, how it comes up and instantaneously plays 
> a video or audio, but navigating through a page gives me a headache. Smile.
> Also my Mac is new, so it's got OS10 and all the latest updates.
> thanks for any help.
> I have been a quiet lurker here over the past month, trying to learn before 
> I made my purchase, and you all are very helpful.
> Shannon 
> 
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RE: safari

[David Griffith]

It is not true that there is no way of going through links.
There are multiple ways of navigating pages.
Use the web rota and quick nav to achieve a lot of this.
If you have quick nav turned on. Left and right keys together, you can cycle
through different presentations of link headings etc. by pressing left and
up key to cycle left and right and down cursor key to  cycle right.
Pressing the up and down arrow will now navigate you through the last list
you called up.
In addition you might use item chooser which is my favourite way of finding
anything on a page.

Item chooser will provide a list of all the page elements and typing for
example single will narrow the list to any elements  with that text in it.
This is a lot better than the JFW equivalent as it does not rely on you
finding the first letter of a link or heading or text. The item chooser will
preserve any element with, in this example, single in it,, wherever it
appears within that element, so it could be at the end of a line which says
for example "Its great to be single".

David Griffith

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Sent: 31 October 2013 14:43
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Subject: safari

Greetings, it's Shannon again, the new Mac user. Smile.
I have heard there is no way of going through links on a safari page, as 
there is in, say, JFW's links list in Windows. Firstly, is this true?
and if so, what is the best way to handle a Safari page? I tend to use the 
track pad or flick through using VO right or left arrows.
An exampel of my struggle happened today on the New York Times Page. I saw a

link that said "single page", which puts the whole article on one page, and 
this is how I like to read my articles inWindows because you avoid all the 
junk.
But in Safari, I could not stop VoiceOver in time and there seemed to be no 
quick way to get back to the single page link. Any ideas? I turned on 
keyboard navigation so now if I press h for example I get to headings, but 
is there anything else I can do?
And if I may, I also have a question about the reader command. In plowing 
through Safari preferences, I saw that the reader command was hidden. SoI 
showed it. So far none of the pages I visit have a reader option. Does VO 
speak that reader is available like it does on the iPhone?
There is much I like about Safari, how it comes up and instantaneously plays

a video or audio, but navigating through a page gives me a headache. Smile.
Also my Mac is new, so it's got OS10 and all the latest updates.
thanks for any help.
I have been a quiet lurker here over the past month, trying to learn before 
I made my purchase, and you all are very helpful.
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Re: safari

[Zachary Kline]

Shannon,
You might want to look into an item called the web rotor. The command you want 
is the O-u. This enables you to navigate by links, headings, or whatever, just 
as in more familiar programs. With this particular case, I might also suggest 
these Safari reader, command-shift-R. This declutters a lot of pages, and was 
intended for news articles in particular. :-)
All the best,
Zack.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:43 AM, "Shannon Reece"  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings, it's Shannon again, the new Mac user. Smile.
> I have heard there is no way of going through links on a safari page, as 
> there is in, say, JFW's links list in Windows. Firstly, is this true?
> and if so, what is the best way to handle a Safari page? I tend to use the 
> track pad or flick through using VO right or left arrows.
> An exampel of my struggle happened today on the New York Times Page. I saw a 
> link that said "single page", which puts the whole article on one page, and 
> this is how I like to read my articles inWindows because you avoid all the 
> junk.
> But in Safari, I could not stop VoiceOver in time and there seemed to be no 
> quick way to get back to the single page link. Any ideas? I turned on 
> keyboard navigation so now if I press h for example I get to headings, but 
> is there anything else I can do?
> And if I may, I also have a question about the reader command. In plowing 
> through Safari preferences, I saw that the reader command was hidden. SoI 
> showed it. So far none of the pages I visit have a reader option. Does VO 
> speak that reader is available like it does on the iPhone?
> There is much I like about Safari, how it comes up and instantaneously plays 
> a video or audio, but navigating through a page gives me a headache. Smile.
> Also my Mac is new, so it's got OS10 and all the latest updates.
> thanks for any help.
> I have been a quiet lurker here over the past month, trying to learn before 
> I made my purchase, and you all are very helpful.
> Shannon 
> 
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Re: ibooks was Re: safari 6.1

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

No, it's OK, seeing you did change the subject appropriately, I'll write on 
list.  To answer your question, yes, you most certainly can.  What you'll 
do, is to turn your rotor to which ever element you want to move by, be it 
words, headings, characters, links, etc. then you'll one finger flick up or 
down to move by that amount.


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- Original Message - 
From: "William Lomas" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: ibooks was Re: safari 6.1


with ibooks on ios though can i navigate through a book with lines words 
etc. reply off list if you wish please


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wrote:


Yeah, right now, IBooks has quite a few accessibility issues from what 
little I understand.  If that is your main reason, you’d be better off to 
probably stick for now with Mountain Lion, then just use IOS for IBooks, 
which is 100% accessible.


Chris.

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wrote:


many thanks for this. i am happy with mountain lion for now. my main 
update reason would be ibooks for studying but seems incompatible for now 
with VO

again thanks for this help

On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:52, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:


Honestly, I really don’t see any difference as of yet.  I think the main 
thing is that they updated it for Maverick compatibility, as well as 
added the ability to use ICloud keychain.


Aside from that though, I’m not really aware of anything.

Chris.

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, William Lomas  
wrote:



how is it different, please?

On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:



No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.

Chris.


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- Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:07 AM
Subject: safari 6.1



hello to all

if i install safari 6.1 is this the same version as in mac osx 10.9?
regards william

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Re: ibooks was Re: safari 6.1

[isaac]

Yes you can use lines words

-Original Message- 
From: William Lomas

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:20 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: ibooks was Re: safari 6.1

with ibooks on ios though can i navigate through a book with lines words 
etc. reply off list if you wish please


On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:08, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:


Yeah, right now, IBooks has quite a few accessibility issues from what 
little I understand.  If that is your main reason, you’d be better off to 
probably stick for now with Mountain Lion, then just use IOS for IBooks, 
which is 100% accessible.


Chris.

On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:02 AM, William Lomas  
wrote:


many thanks for this. i am happy with mountain lion for now. my main 
update reason would be ibooks for studying but seems incompatible for now 
with VO

again thanks for this help

On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:52, Christopher Gilland  
wrote:


Honestly, I really don’t see any difference as of yet.  I think the main 
thing is that they updated it for Maverick compatibility, as well as 
added the ability to use ICloud keychain.


Aside from that though, I’m not really aware of anything.

Chris.

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, William Lomas  
wrote:



how is it different, please?

On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:



No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.

Chris.


Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have 
recorded.


http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland

For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to 
follow me on Twitter.


http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic
- Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:07 AM
Subject: safari 6.1



hello to all

if i install safari 6.1 is this the same version as in mac osx 10.9?
regards william

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ibooks was Re: safari 6.1

[William Lomas]

with ibooks on ios though can i navigate through a book with lines words etc. 
reply off list if you wish please

On 23 Oct 2013, at 16:08, Christopher Gilland  wrote:

> Yeah, right now, IBooks has quite a few accessibility issues from what little 
> I understand.  If that is your main reason, you’d be better off to probably 
> stick for now with Mountain Lion, then just use IOS for IBooks, which is 100% 
> accessible.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:02 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
> 
>> many thanks for this. i am happy with mountain lion for now. my main update 
>> reason would be ibooks for studying but seems incompatible for now with VO 
>> again thanks for this help 
>> 
>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:52, Christopher Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Honestly, I really don’t see any difference as of yet.  I think the main 
>>> thing is that they updated it for Maverick compatibility, as well as added 
>>> the ability to use ICloud keychain.
>>> 
>>> Aside from that though, I’m not really aware of anything.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, William Lomas  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 how is it different, please?
 
 On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
> No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded.
> 
> http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland
> 
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> me on Twitter.
> 
> http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic
> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:07 AM
> Subject: safari 6.1
> 
> 
>> hello to all
>> 
>> if i install safari 6.1 is this the same version as in mac osx 10.9?
>> regards william
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Re: safari 6.1

[Christopher Gilland]

Yeah, right now, IBooks has quite a few accessibility issues from what little I 
understand.  If that is your main reason, you’d be better off to probably stick 
for now with Mountain Lion, then just use IOS for IBooks, which is 100% 
accessible.

Chris.

On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:02 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> many thanks for this. i am happy with mountain lion for now. my main update 
> reason would be ibooks for studying but seems incompatible for now with VO 
> again thanks for this help 
> 
> On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:52, Christopher Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
>> Honestly, I really don’t see any difference as of yet.  I think the main 
>> thing is that they updated it for Maverick compatibility, as well as added 
>> the ability to use ICloud keychain.
>> 
>> Aside from that though, I’m not really aware of anything.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>>> how is it different, please?
>>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.
 
 Chris.
 
 
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 http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland
 
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 - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:07 AM
 Subject: safari 6.1
 
 
> hello to all
> 
> if i install safari 6.1 is this the same version as in mac osx 10.9?
> regards william
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Re: safari 6.1

[William Lomas]

many thanks for this. i am happy with mountain lion for now. my main update 
reason would be ibooks for studying but seems incompatible for now with VO 
again thanks for this help 

On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:52, Christopher Gilland  wrote:

> Honestly, I really don’t see any difference as of yet.  I think the main 
> thing is that they updated it for Maverick compatibility, as well as added 
> the ability to use ICloud keychain.
> 
> Aside from that though, I’m not really aware of anything.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, William Lomas  wrote:
> 
>> how is it different, please?
>> 
>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded.
>>> 
>>> http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland
>>> 
>>> For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow 
>>> me on Twitter.
>>> 
>>> http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic
>>> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:07 AM
>>> Subject: safari 6.1
>>> 
>>> 
 hello to all
 
 if i install safari 6.1 is this the same version as in mac osx 10.9?
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Re: safari 6.1

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Honestly, I really don’t see any difference as of yet.  I think the main thing 
is that they updated it for Maverick compatibility, as well as added the 
ability to use ICloud keychain.

Aside from that though, I’m not really aware of anything.

Chris.

On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, William Lomas  wrote:

> how is it different, please?
> 
> On 23 Oct 2013, at 15:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
>> No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: safari 6.1

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how is it different, please?

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> - Original Message - From: "William Lomas" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:07 AM
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Re: safari 6.1

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No, it's not.  They have version 7 in Mavericks.

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hello to all

if i install safari 6.1 is this the same version as in mac osx 10.9?
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Re: Safari downloads on the Mac.

[Sarah k Alawami]

I think the open safe files after downloading will open it in the iTunes app, 
or what ever you have to open safe files such as text, mp3, what not. I think 
the person wanted to know how they would not play in the safari player. Option 
enter has so far worked for me.
On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Press option plus enter on the file to download it, and if that still doesn't 
> solve it, go into Safari preferences and uncheck the box that says open safe 
> files after downloading. Hope that helps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hi all, 
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>> Is there a way to stop MP3 files from playing when I click on them on a 
>> website? 
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Re: Safari downloads on the Mac.

[Sarah k Alawami]

Option enter will do the trick, except if the link is a java link. Other wise 
if it is a direct link to an mp3 then option enter will just force the dl of 
the file. no matter what it is mp3, zip, txt, what not.

Tc.
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> website? 
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> Thanks for any help provided. 
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Re: Safari downloads on the Mac.

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Press option plus enter on the file to download it, and if that still doesn't 
solve it, go into Safari preferences and uncheck the box that says open safe 
files after downloading. Hope that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Is there a way to stop MP3 files from playing when I click on them on a 
> website? 
> 
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> 
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Re: safari history on the mac?

[Sarah k Alawami]

cmd option numrow 2. and again to turn that off.  or cmd option b and interact 
with the table and arrow to history. I like the first option as it is a lot 
quicker. *smiles*

Take care.
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> could someone please tell me how to access my history of websites on the mac? 
>  thanks.
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah I looked at the html and it's all a mess. no link to the power point file. 
I'm guessing it's the same with you and the html code in the pdf file you are 
trying to grab?

Take care.
On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:30 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:

> ya, i don't even have acrobat installed, I'm really not too sure whats going 
> on with this, because some things open others don't maybe ill have to take a 
> visit to my lovely IT department...
> On 2013-02-05, at 11:18 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
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>> There might be a setting withing Acrobat that someone needs to change which 
>> says "don't open this file in safari".  I remember that on the *cough* other 
>> side of the great computing divide, the one we don't mention, that was how 
>> it used to work.
>> 
>> Built into the mac is Preview though which usually works fine.  Failing that 
>> there is always Skim.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:13, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:
>> 
>>> well how it works is by default the university has their  files that are 
>>> posted online are programmed to default to open in acrobat reader.  and I 
>>> heard that acrobat reader is not accessible with vo, so is there something 
>>> i can use on the mac to default open pdf's, from within safari?
>>> 
>>> On 2013-02-05, at 11:09 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>>> wrote:
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 did I read an earlier post where you said acrobat reader was trying to 
 open those files?
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> that for myself is not possible, due to restrictions put in place by the 
> university of saskatchewan.
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>> Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
>> Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to 
>> the PDf inside.
>> 
>> Just a thought.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a 
>>> power point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the 
>>> instructor and see if they can email you the thing and you can read it.
>>> 
>>> good luck.
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, 
 they are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said 
 file, and clicking either download selected file or download selected 
 file as, no matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always 
 comes up in my downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the 
 work on my mac at all.. what do i do!
 thanks
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Rudolph, Douglas]

ya, i don't even have acrobat installed, I'm really not too sure whats going on 
with this, because some things open others don't maybe ill have to take a visit 
to my lovely IT department...
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> There might be a setting withing Acrobat that someone needs to change which 
> says "don't open this file in safari".  I remember that on the *cough* other 
> side of the great computing divide, the one we don't mention, that was how it 
> used to work.
> 
> Built into the mac is Preview though which usually works fine.  Failing that 
> there is always Skim.
> 
> Dónal
> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:13, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:
> 
>> well how it works is by default the university has their  files that are 
>> posted online are programmed to default to open in acrobat reader.  and I 
>> heard that acrobat reader is not accessible with vo, so is there something i 
>> can use on the mac to default open pdf's, from within safari?
>> 
>> On 2013-02-05, at 11:09 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> did I read an earlier post where you said acrobat reader was trying to open 
>>> those files?
>>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:07, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 that for myself is not possible, due to restrictions put in place by the 
 university of saskatchewan.
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 wrote:
 
> Hi Sarah and Douglas,
> 
> Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
> Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to 
> the PDf inside.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Dónal
> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a 
>> power point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor 
>> and see if they can email you the thing and you can read it.
>> 
>> good luck.
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, 
>>> they are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said 
>>> file, and clicking either download selected file or download selected 
>>> file as, no matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always 
>>> comes up in my downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the 
>>> work on my mac at all.. what do i do!
>>> thanks
>>> doug
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

There might be a setting withing Acrobat that someone needs to change which 
says "don't open this file in safari".  I remember that on the *cough* other 
side of the great computing divide, the one we don't mention, that was how it 
used to work.

Built into the mac is Preview though which usually works fine.  Failing that 
there is always Skim.

Dónal
On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:13, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:

> well how it works is by default the university has their  files that are 
> posted online are programmed to default to open in acrobat reader.  and I 
> heard that acrobat reader is not accessible with vo, so is there something i 
> can use on the mac to default open pdf's, from within safari?
> 
> On 2013-02-05, at 11:09 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
> 
>> did I read an earlier post where you said acrobat reader was trying to open 
>> those files?
>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:07, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:
>> 
>>> that for myself is not possible, due to restrictions put in place by the 
>>> university of saskatchewan.
>>> On 2013-02-05, at 11:03 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Sarah and Douglas,
 
 Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
 Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to the 
 PDf inside.
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Dónal
 On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
 
> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a 
> power point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor 
> and see if they can email you the thing and you can read it.
> 
> good luck.
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
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>> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, 
>> they are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said 
>> file, and clicking either download selected file or download selected 
>> file as, no matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always 
>> comes up in my downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the 
>> work on my mac at all.. what do i do!
>> thanks
>> doug
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Rudolph, Douglas]

well how it works is by default the university has their  files that are posted 
online are programmed to default to open in acrobat reader.  and I heard that 
acrobat reader is not accessible with vo, so is there something i can use on 
the mac to default open pdf's, from within safari?

On 2013-02-05, at 11:09 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
 wrote:

> did I read an earlier post where you said acrobat reader was trying to open 
> those files?
> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:07, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:
> 
>> that for myself is not possible, due to restrictions put in place by the 
>> university of saskatchewan.
>> On 2013-02-05, at 11:03 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah and Douglas,
>>> 
>>> Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
>>> Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to the 
>>> PDf inside.
>>> 
>>> Just a thought.
>>> 
>>> Dónal
>>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a power 
 point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor and see 
 if they can email you the thing and you can read it.
 
 good luck.
 On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
 wrote:
 
> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, they 
> are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said file, 
> and clicking either download selected file or download selected file as, 
> no matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always comes up in 
> my downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the work on my mac 
> at all.. what do i do!
> thanks
> doug
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

did I read an earlier post where you said acrobat reader was trying to open 
those files?
On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:07, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:

> that for myself is not possible, due to restrictions put in place by the 
> university of saskatchewan.
> On 2013-02-05, at 11:03 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah and Douglas,
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
>> Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to the 
>> PDf inside.
>> 
>> Just a thought.
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a power 
>>> point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor and see 
>>> if they can email you the thing and you can read it.
>>> 
>>> good luck.
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, they 
 are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said file, and 
 clicking either download selected file or download selected file as, no 
 matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always comes up in my 
 downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the work on my mac at 
 all.. what do i do!
 thanks
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Rudolph, Douglas]

that for myself is not possible, due to restrictions put in place by the 
university of saskatchewan.
On 2013-02-05, at 11:03 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick 
 wrote:

> Hi Sarah and Douglas,
> 
> Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
> Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to the 
> PDf inside.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Dónal
> On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a power 
>> point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor and see 
>> if they can email you the thing and you can read it.
>> 
>> good luck.
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, they 
>>> are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said file, and 
>>> clicking either download selected file or download selected file as, no 
>>> matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always comes up in my 
>>> downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the work on my mac at 
>>> all.. what do i do!
>>> thanks
>>> doug
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Hi Sarah and Douglas,

Just out of curiosity have you tried opening the HTML in something like 
Textedit and viewing the source?  There just might be a direct link to the PDf 
inside.

Just a thought.

Dónal
On 5 Feb 2013, at 17:00, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a power 
> point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor and see if 
> they can email you the thing and you can read it.
> 
> good luck.
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
> wrote:
> 
>> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, they 
>> are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said file, and 
>> clicking either download selected file or download selected file as, no 
>> matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always comes up in my 
>> downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the work on my mac at 
>> all.. what do i do!
>> thanks
>> doug
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Rudolph, Douglas]

yes, that would be fine and all, but it does this with all downloadable pdf's, 
even some journals that the university are subscribed to. i know it wants to 
open up adobe reader, is it possible to download something that will work with 
vo, tha replaces adobe?
doug
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 wrote:

> Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a power 
> point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor and see if 
> they can email you the thing and you can read it.
> 
> good luck.
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
> wrote:
> 
>> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, they 
>> are pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said file, and 
>> clicking either download selected file or download selected file as, no 
>> matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always comes up in my 
>> downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the work on my mac at 
>> all.. what do i do!
>> thanks
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Re: safari and downloading pdf

[Sarah k Alawami]

Some universities don't allow this. I'm having the same issue with a power 
point I"m trying to grab. My suggestions to contact the instructor and see if 
they can email you the thing and you can read it.

good luck.
On Feb 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:

> hey guys, I'm trying to download files from my universities website, they are 
> pdf documents, but they when i open the context menu on said file, and 
> clicking either download selected file or download selected file as, no 
> matter what, even though I'm downloading a pdf, it always comes up in my 
> downloads or documents is "file.html" i can't open the work on my mac at 
> all.. what do i do!
> thanks
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Re: safari reading list revisited

[Sarah k Alawami]

It never worked for me either. . I just though  hit was sort of a book mark 
thing for read later list. That was what I was told. it never cached articles 
off line.

Take care all.
On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:

> Sorry to come back to this, but I am not getting anywhere in resolving this 
> problem.
> 
> Despite everything I read telling me that safari on the mac and on the iphone 
> will cache articles for offline reading it doesn't seem to be working for me.
> 
> I am losing articles when they are deleted from the publishers' servers and I 
> can't access anything in my reading list when airline mode is on.
> 
> i have searched in vain on the web for answers and have triple checked all 
> the settings in my phone.
> 
> Any ideas out there?
> Thanks in advance
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Re: safari reading list

[Judy Pryor]

Of course you are right, it was just my ignorance, I have been downloading the 
web archive and reading it later.  This is  why I have joined this group to 
learn.
all the best Judy
On 17 Jan 2013, at 01:52, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Actually I thought th eperpos of the reading list is to bookmark the 
> site/page for further reading later. I did not think it downloaded on line.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 12:57, "Judy Pryor"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
>> know you could download and read off line.
>> Judy
>> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: safari reading list
>> 
>> 
>>> HI
>>> 
>>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>>> 
>>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer 
>>>> available. Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hello all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
>>>>> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. 
>>>>> I add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I 
>>>>> leave some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not 
>>>>> found message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not 
>>>>> cached on my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
>>>>> losing saved articles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>> 
>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should 
>>>>> something unpredictable happen.
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
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>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
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Re: safari reading list

[Judy Pryor]

thank you very much for the info.  I am glad TNAUK seem to be sorting out the 
problem.  Judy
On 17 Jan 2013, at 11:21, Ian Harrison  
wrote:

> If you look in safari settings the ones for reader indicate that reading 
> offline should be possible.
> 
> On the instapaper problem, I have been contacted by TNAUK to tell me they 
> think the problem is at their end and they are trying to fix.
> 
> Ian
> On 16 January 2013, at 20:57, Judy Pryor wrote:
> 
>> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
>> know you could download and read off line.
>> Judy
>> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: safari reading list
>> 
>> 
>>> HI
>>> 
>>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>>> 
>>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer 
>>>> available. Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hello all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
>>>>> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. 
>>>>> I add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I 
>>>>> leave some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not 
>>>>> found message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not 
>>>>> cached on my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
>>>>> losing saved articles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>> 
>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus 
>>>>> and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should 
>>>>> something unpredictable happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>>> 
>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>> 
>>&

Re: safari reading list

[Ian Harrison]

If you look in safari settings the ones for reader indicate that reading 
offline should be possible.

On the instapaper problem, I have been contacted by TNAUK to tell me they think 
the problem is at their end and they are trying to fix.

Ian
On 16 January 2013, at 20:57, Judy Pryor wrote:

> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
> know you could download and read off line.
> Judy
> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: safari reading list
> 
> 
>> HI
>> 
>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>> 
>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer available. 
>>> Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
>>>> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. I 
>>>> add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I leave 
>>>> some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not found 
>>>> message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not cached on 
>>>> my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
>>>> 
>>>> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
>>>> losing saved articles.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> Ian
>>>> 
>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>> 
>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>>>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>>>> unpredictable happen.
>>>> 
>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>>> 
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>> 
>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>>> unpredictable happen.
>>> 
>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>> visiting the list website a

Re: safari reading list

[Sarah Alawami]

Actually I thought th eperpos of the reading list is to bookmark the site/page 
for further reading later. I did not think it downloaded on line.

Take care.

On Jan 16, 2013, at 12:57, "Judy Pryor"  wrote:

> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
> know you could download and read off line.
> Judy
> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: safari reading list
> 
> 
>> HI
>> 
>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>> 
>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer available. 
>>> Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
>>>> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. I 
>>>> add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I leave 
>>>> some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not found 
>>>> message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not cached on 
>>>> my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
>>>> 
>>>> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
>>>> losing saved articles.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> Ian
>>>> 
>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>>> 
>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>>>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>>>> unpredictable happen.
>>>> 
>>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>>> visiting the list website at:
>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html>
>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>>> 
>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure 
>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>>> unpredictable happen.
>>> 
>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>>> visiting the list website at:
>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
>> 

Re: safari reading list

[Judy Pryor]

Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
know you could download and read off line.

Judy
- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Harrison" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: safari reading list



HI

I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that 
it downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the 
bookmark should not be taking me back to their server.


Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:

It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer 
available. Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:



hello all,

I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings 
wrong.


I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. 
I add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I 
leave some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not 
found message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not 
cached on my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.


I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
losing saved articles.


Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?

Many thanks
Ian

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To reply to this post, please address your message to 
mac-access@mac-access.net


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forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:

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and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
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To reply to this post, please address your message to 
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at either the list's own dedicated web archive:

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and worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
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Re: safari reading list

[Ian Harrison]

HI

I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark should 
not be taking me back to their server.

Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:

> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer available. 
> Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>  wrote:
> 
>> hello all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
>> 
>> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
>> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. I 
>> add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I leave 
>> some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not found message 
>> relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not cached on my phone 
>> or mac, but merely bookmarked.
>> 
>> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep losing 
>> saved articles.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> Ian
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>> 
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>> 
>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
>> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>> 
>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>> .
>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>> 
>> 
>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that 
>> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>> unpredictable happen.
>> 
>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>> visiting the list website at:
>> 
>> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> 
> or at the public Mail Archive:
> .
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
> 
> 
> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that 
> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
> unpredictable happen.
> 
> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
> visiting the list website at:
> 
> 

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.
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We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable 
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Re: safari reading list

[Judy Pryor]

I do not  know what is happening, I have saved loads of publications from TNALK 
into various folders on my macbook  and as yet have had no problems in 
retrieving them.  I hope somebody comes up with an answer. Perhaps they are 
having problems with their web site.
all the best Judy
On 16 Jan 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer available. 
> Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>  wrote:
> 
>> hello all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
>> 
>> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
>> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. I 
>> add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I leave 
>> some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not found message 
>> relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not cached on my phone 
>> or mac, but merely bookmarked.
>> 
>> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep losing 
>> saved articles.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> Ian
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>> 
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>> 
>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
>> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>> 
>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>> .
>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>> 
>> 
>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that 
>> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>> unpredictable happen.
>> 
>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>> visiting the list website at:
>> 
>> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> 
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> .
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
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> 
> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that 
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> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
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> 
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> 
> 

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Re: safari reading list

[Josh Gregory]

It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer available. 
Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:

> hello all,
> 
> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
> 
> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. I 
> add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I leave 
> some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not found message 
> relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not cached on my phone 
> or mac, but merely bookmarked.
> 
> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep losing 
> saved articles.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
> 
> Many thanks
> Ian
> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> 
> or at the public Mail Archive:
> .
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
> 
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Re: Safari and Bookmarks

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I save to a book mark collection called test and then move everything manually 
in the book marks list. Iv'e been having this problem for several months now 
where it would act like it would save then turns out it does not. 

Take care.
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> Hellow,
> I've been having a problem with safari on the mac saving every single we age 
> I visit to bookmarks.  I've been looking in fpreferences and in the menus and 
> everything and can't seem to find anything. Does anyone know how to stop 
> safari doing this?  If I wanted a age saved as a bookmark, I would save it as 
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Re: safari help

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What happens if you at least line up to the html and hit the tab once?  Does it 
then show up?  Had a couple of them do that to me last week too, but only a 
couple of them.  Then after a tab or two was able to move around the content 
okay.  

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> HI there. All of a sudden I cannot view websites with safari. I am told the 
> html is empty and cannot view anything new.
> What do I do?
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Re: Safari andMountain Lion questions

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I don't use tabs, but there is a configuration option in preferences  
(command-,) that will open new pages in a new tab.  I use open new  
pages in a new window, so I can just command-~ to cycle through all  
my open windows.

I don't like having my screen cluttered, which is why I don't use tabs.
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Re: safari and cash files

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That allows you to change the user agent string and more fro websites  that are 
not cooperative like at http://m.facebook.com. I I would go in to more detail 
but I'm recovering from a stomach bug and cannot type a lot at the moment.

Take care.

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>> Actually I just disabled caches in the develop menu. I don't use them 
>> anyway. lol!
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>>> T.J.
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 Sure, just turn on secure browsing, when that's on, safari doesn't save 
 cache pages at all, so that should solve your problem.
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Thanks Sarah.  What is the develop menu?
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>>> cache pages at all, so that should solve your problem.
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Actually I just disabled caches in the develop menu. I don't use them anyway. 
lol!

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Re: safari and cash files

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Ah so is that what that does? thanks for that.  I was kind of afraid to try 
stuff as I usually brake things lol!

Take care.  
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Re: safari and keyboard commander

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Wow can you tell me how to make the mute and umuting command? I often 
accidently mute and it doesn't always unmute that easily.
Thanks.
Loette]

On 2012-04-15, at 11:42 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> You can configure mute and unmuting of sound with the keyboard commander. I 
> have it set to option v to mute and unmute speach. and ther's also a mute 
> comand you can configure as well.
> On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
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>> Hello, 
>> Like Sarah I also find that restarting VO clears Safari problems like it 
>> being busy busy busy. It is annoying to have to do it but it nearly always 
>> works. I have Voxzkeys installed on my system and that offers a feature 
>> whereby pressing Control+Command+Backslash restarts VO. It would be good if 
>> Apple provided a hotkey to restart VO including unmuting the sound card if 
>> you had somehow accidentally muted the sound. 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
>> On 15 Apr 2012, at 00:58, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I really don't know. Usually restarting vo clears the busy busy thing up. 
>>> and it presents all the page enements including the auto wet spots or what 
>>> ever they are called to me once again. I cannot say weathe rit is or is not 
>>> the issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
>>> 
 so you think that vo is the problem?
 THanks.
 Lovette
 
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> I have not noticed that work in that situation how ever it is worth a 
> try. I think restarting vo is a lot quicker lol! but mabe both fixes will 
> work in this case.
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>> Hello:
>> 
>> Try this, command-option-e and VO right VO space on ok.  This will empty 
>> the cache.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
>> 
>>> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
>>> Lovette
>>> 
>>> On 2012-04-14, at 12:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
 
 Take care all.
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> Hi there. Safari is driving me crazy.  Sometimes it keep saying it is 
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Re: safari

[Sarah Alawami]

You can configure mute and unmuting of sound with the keyboard commander. I 
have it set to option v to mute and unmute speach. and ther's also a mute 
comand you can configure as well.
On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

> Hello, 
> Like Sarah I also find that restarting VO clears Safari problems like it 
> being busy busy busy. It is annoying to have to do it but it nearly always 
> works. I have Voxzkeys installed on my system and that offers a feature 
> whereby pressing Control+Command+Backslash restarts VO. It would be good if 
> Apple provided a hotkey to restart VO including unmuting the sound card if 
> you had somehow accidentally muted the sound. 
> Best wishes
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
> On 15 Apr 2012, at 00:58, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I really don't know. Usually restarting vo clears the busy busy thing up. 
>> and it presents all the page enements including the auto wet spots or what 
>> ever they are called to me once again. I cannot say weathe rit is or is not 
>> the issue.
>> 
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
>> 
>>> so you think that vo is the problem?
>>> THanks.
>>> Lovette
>>> 
>>> On 2012-04-14, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I have not noticed that work in that situation how ever it is worth a try. 
 I think restarting vo is a lot quicker lol! but mabe both fixes will work 
 in this case.
 On Apr 14, 2012, at 2:48 PM, John Gunn wrote:
 
> Hello:
> 
> Try this, command-option-e and VO right VO space on ok.  This will empty 
> the cache.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
>> Lovette
>> 
>> On 2012-04-14, at 12:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
>>> 
>>> Take care all.
>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there. Safari is driving me crazy.  Sometimes it keep saying it is 
 busy and I wonder if there is something one can do to make it work 
 better?
 Thanks.
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Re: safari

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I'll second or third that. The practice of pressing Command+F5 twice to restart 
VO has become a standard part of my web-surfing routine. Sometimes this does 
not clear up the issue. In those cases I usually assume there is a memory leak 
or some other issue happening that is going to crash the system anyway, so I'll 
save any open work and restart the computer just to be safe.

HTH,
Bryan

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Re: safari

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Hello, 
Like Sarah I also find that restarting VO clears Safari problems like it being 
busy busy busy. It is annoying to have to do it but it nearly always works. I 
have Voxzkeys installed on my system and that offers a feature whereby pressing 
Control+Command+Backslash restarts VO. It would be good if Apple provided a 
hotkey to restart VO including unmuting the sound card if you had somehow 
accidentally muted the sound. 
Best wishes

Paul Hopewell 
On 15 Apr 2012, at 00:58, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I really don't know. Usually restarting vo clears the busy busy thing up. and 
> it presents all the page enements including the auto wet spots or what ever 
> they are called to me once again. I cannot say weathe rit is or is not the 
> issue.
> 
> 
> Take care.
> On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> so you think that vo is the problem?
>> THanks.
>> Lovette
>> 
>> On 2012-04-14, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I have not noticed that work in that situation how ever it is worth a try. 
>>> I think restarting vo is a lot quicker lol! but mabe both fixes will work 
>>> in this case.
>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 2:48 PM, John Gunn wrote:
>>> 
 Hello:
 
 Try this, command-option-e and VO right VO space on ok.  This will empty 
 the cache.
 
 John
 
 
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> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
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>> Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
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>> Take care all.
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Re: safari

[Sarah Alawami]

I really don't know. Usually restarting vo clears the busy busy thing up. and 
it presents all the page enements including the auto wet spots or what ever 
they are called to me once again. I cannot say weathe rit is or is not the 
issue.


Take care.
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> so you think that vo is the problem?
> THanks.
> Lovette
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> On 2012-04-14, at 3:11 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
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>> I have not noticed that work in that situation how ever it is worth a try. I 
>> think restarting vo is a lot quicker lol! but mabe both fixes will work in 
>> this case.
>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 2:48 PM, John Gunn wrote:
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>>> Hello:
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>>> Try this, command-option-e and VO right VO space on ok.  This will empty 
>>> the cache.
>>> 
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>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
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 do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
 Lovette
 
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> Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
> 
> Take care all.
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so you think that vo is the problem?
THanks.
Lovette

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> I have not noticed that work in that situation how ever it is worth a try. I 
> think restarting vo is a lot quicker lol! but mabe both fixes will work in 
> this case.
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>> cache.
>> 
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>>> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
>>> Lovette
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>>> On 2012-04-14, at 12:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
 
 Take care all.
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I have not noticed that work in that situation how ever it is worth a try. I 
think restarting vo is a lot quicker lol! but mabe both fixes will work in this 
case.
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> cache.
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> John
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>> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
>> Lovette
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>>> Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
>>> 
>>> Take care all.
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 Hi there. Safari is driving me crazy.  Sometimes it keep saying it is busy 
 and I wonder if there is something one can do to make it work better?
 Thanks.
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Re: safari

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thanks Hopefully that will help.
Lovette

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>> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
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>> On 2012-04-14, at 12:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
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>>> Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
>>> 
>>> Take care all.
>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
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 Hi there. Safari is driving me crazy.  Sometimes it keep saying it is busy 
 and I wonder if there is something one can do to make it work better?
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Re: safari

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Hello:

Try this, command-option-e and VO right VO space on ok.  This will empty the 
cache.

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> do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
> Lovette
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> On 2012-04-14, at 12:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
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>> Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.
>> 
>> Take care all.
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Re: safari

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No I literally  mean restart vo. and safari should work.  Just hit cmd f5, wait 
for about 3 or 4 seconds then cmd f5 to turn it back on.
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do you mean reopening where you want to go? If so done that.
Lovette

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Re: safari

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Restart vo.  that's what usualy helps for me when safari does that.

Take care all.
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Re: Safari questions

[Kristeen Hughes]

To all,
I thank you so very much for all your help. I am indeed thankful, so can I ask 
some more questions? (grin)

To you, Esther, I agree with all who have said that your knowledge and 
willingness to share it are absolutely phenomenal. Thank you and thank you all.

kristeen

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> Well most of us have been in the same place, and will be so again at some 
> point if we are all honest with ourselves.  Might be matters of different 
> apps and problems, but we've all been where you are.  
> On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Margaret Booth wrote:
> 
>> I happen to agree with you all. Esther has been a great help to me as well
>> as others on this list like Sarah. I am very grateful that everyone is
>> patient and answers all of my questions. 
>> 
>> Margaret 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:56 PM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Safari questions
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> I entirely agree with Gordon.
>> 
>> As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products:  Esther has been a
>> God sent!
>> 
>> Thank  you Esther and all .
>> 
>> Christo
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote:
>> 
>>> Isn't she wonderful?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a
>> BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.
>>> 
>>> Heartfelt thanks
>>> 
>>> G
>>> 
>>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
>>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
>>>> 
>>>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for
>> both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A
>> nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an
>> item to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a
>> web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their
>> "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then
>> quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match
>> those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results
>> for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead
>> for the second match.  By then, there are only a few matches on the menu,
>> and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space
>> to be taken to my selection.  Remember that item chooser menu only navigates
>> you to an element.  If there's a link or button that you're trying to
>> activate yo
>>> u 
>>>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide
>> to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start
>> typing again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help
>> find things.
>>>> 
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Re: Safari questions

[Thomas McMahan]

Well most of us have been in the same place, and will be so again at some point 
if we are all honest with ourselves.  Might be matters of different apps and 
problems, but we've all been where you are.  
On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Margaret Booth wrote:

> I happen to agree with you all. Esther has been a great help to me as well
> as others on this list like Sarah. I am very grateful that everyone is
> patient and answers all of my questions. 
> 
> Margaret 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt
> Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:56 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Safari questions
> 
> Hello
> 
> I entirely agree with Gordon.
> 
> As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products:  Esther has been a
> God sent!
> 
> Thank  you Esther and all .
> 
> Christo
> 
> 
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote:
> 
>> Isn't she wonderful?
>> 
>> 
>> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a
> BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.
>> 
>> Heartfelt thanks
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
>>> 
>>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for
> both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A
> nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an
> item to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a
> web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their
> "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then
> quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match
> those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results
> for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead
> for the second match.  By then, there are only a few matches on the menu,
> and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space
> to be taken to my selection.  Remember that item chooser menu only navigates
> you to an element.  If there's a link or button that you're trying to
> activate yo
>> u 
>>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide
> to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start
> typing again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help
> find things.
>>> 
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RE: Safari questions

[Margaret Booth]

I happen to agree with you all. Esther has been a great help to me as well
as others on this list like Sarah. I am very grateful that everyone is
patient and answers all of my questions. 

Margaret 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christo Thiardt
Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012 7:56 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Safari questions

Hello

I entirely agree with Gordon.

As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products:  Esther has been a
God sent!

Thank  you Esther and all .

Christo


On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote:

> Isn't she wonderful?
> 
> 
> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a
BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.
> 
> Heartfelt thanks
> 
> G
> 
> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
>> 
>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for
both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A
nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an
item to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a
web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their
"Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then
quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match
those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results
for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead
for the second match.  By then, there are only a few matches on the menu,
and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space
to be taken to my selection.  Remember that item chooser menu only navigates
you to an element.  If there's a link or button that you're trying to
activate yo
> u 
>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide
to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start
typing again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help
find things.
>> 
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Re: Safari questions

[Thomas McMahan]

Even for those who aren't novices she is.  

On Feb 16, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Christo Thiardt wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I entirely agree with Gordon.
> 
> As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products:  Esther has been a 
> God sent!
> 
> Thank  you Esther and all …
> 
> Christo
> 
> 
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote:
> 
>> Isn't she wonderful?
>> 
>> 
>> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a 
>> BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.
>> 
>> Heartfelt thanks
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
>>> 
>>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for 
>>> both current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). 
>>> A nice feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for 
>>> an item to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu 
>>> on a web page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for 
>>> their "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser 
>>> menu, then quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements 
>>> that match those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter 
>>> those results for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type 
>>> "b u t" instead for the second match.  By then, there are only a few 
>>> matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the match and press either 
>>> "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection.  Remember that item 
>>> chooser menu only navigates you to an element.  If there's a link or button 
>>> that you're trying to activate yo
>> u 
>>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide 
>>> to amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start 
>>> typing again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help 
>>> find things.
>>> 
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Re: Safari questions

[Christo Thiardt]

Hello

I entirely agree with Gordon.

As a complete novice with Mac and other Apple products:  Esther has been a God 
sent!

Thank  you Esther and all …

Christo


On 15 Feb 2012, at 19:15, Gordon Keen wrote:

> Isn't she wonderful?
> 
> 
> I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a 
> BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.
> 
> Heartfelt thanks
> 
> G
> 
> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
>> 
>> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both 
>> current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice 
>> feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item 
>> to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web 
>> page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their 
>> "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then 
>> quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match 
>> those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results 
>> for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead 
>> for the second match.  By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, 
>> and I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space 
>> to be taken to my selection.  Remember that item chooser menu only navigates 
>> you to an element.  If there's a link or button that you're trying to 
>> activate yo
> u 
>> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide to 
>> amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start 
>> typing again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help 
>> find things.
>> 
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Re: Safari questions

[Gordon Keen]

Isn't she wonderful?


I've learnt so much from Esther's helpful posts, it's a pity there's not a 
BAFTA, Golden Globe or Oscar we can award her.

Heartfelt thanks

G

>From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
On 15 Feb 2012, at 17:20, Esther wrote:

> Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,
> 
> I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both 
> current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice 
> feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item 
> to include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web 
> page like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their 
> "Campaign of the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then 
> quickly type "c a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match 
> those letters, then quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results 
> for links.  If I'm looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead 
> for the second match.  By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and 
> I can arrow down to the match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be 
> taken to my selection.  Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to 
> an element.  If there's a link or button that you're trying to activate yo
 u 
> still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide to 
> amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing 
> again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find 
> things.
> 

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Re: Safari questions

[Travis Siegel]

To navigate letter-by-letter, use vo-shift-left/right arrow.  That  
will move you a character at a time, as long as you're already  
interacting with the item in question.

hth.
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Re: Safari questions

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Hi Geoff, Kristeen, Gordon, and Others,

I still use item chooser menu a lot, especially since it works well for both 
current and earlier versions of Mac OS X (all the way back to Tiger). A nice 
feature of item chooser menu is that you can refine your search for an item to 
include category.  For example, if I'm using item chooser menu on a web page 
like the one for Applevis, and I want to find the links for their "Campaign of 
the Month", I can type VO-I to bring up item chooser menu, then quickly type "c 
a m" to filter results in the menu for elements that match those letters, then 
quickly type "l i n k" to further filter those results for links.  If I'm 
looking for a button I might quickly type "b u t" instead for the second match. 
 By then, there are only a few matches on the menu, and I can arrow down to the 
match and press either "Return" or use VO-Space to be taken to my selection.  
Remember that item chooser menu only navigates you to an element.  If there's a 
link or button that you're trying to activate you 
 still need to do another VO-Space, etc. to actually press.  If you decide to 
amend your item chooser search terms, press the "Delete" key and start typing 
again.  Item chooser menu is a simple yet very powerful tool to help find 
things.

Geoff, in what regards do feel item chooser's functionality has been abated in 
Lion?  Also, which web item rotor settings do people find most helpful to 
use/add?  (From the experience on the iPhone, surprisingly, images are very 
useful for navigation on the iOS screens).

Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 15, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Kristeen,
> 
> One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i).  Its 
> functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to 
> quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kristeen Hughes 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM
>  Subject: Re: Safari questions
> 
> 
>  Thank you. It helped a lot.
> 
>  Kristeen
> 
>  On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:
> 
>> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
>> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
>> third press by phonetic spelling.
>> 
>> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with 
>> vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
>> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
>> 
>>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it 
>>> is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If 
>>> it's a link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it 
>>> over into a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar 
>>> itself, then by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the 
>>> other questions, don't know because I don't use the find very often simply 
>>> because I want to be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will 
>>> put up with navigating instead.
>> 

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Re: Safari questions

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Kristeen,

One tool that may help with searching is the item chooser (VO-i).  Its 
functionality seems to have been abated in Lion, but its remains a way to 
quickly skip to elements on the web and elsewhere.

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Safari questions


  Thank you. It helped a lot.

  Kristeen

  On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:

  > I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo 
plus w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character 
and third press by phonetic spelling.
  > 
  > It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with 
vo plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
  > 
  > Hope this helps
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  > On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
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  >> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it 
is is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a 
new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by 
interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, don't 
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Re: Safari questions

[Kristeen Hughes]

Thank you. It helped a lot.

Kristeen

On Feb 15, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:

> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
> third press by phonetic spelling.
> 
> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo 
> plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> G
> 
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> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> 
>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is 
>> is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
>> link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into 
>> a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then 
>> by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, 
>> don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to 
>> be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with 
>> navigating instead.
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Re: Safari questions

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That would do it, thanks for the reminder, had forgotten about do that, makes 
it a lot more simple huh?

On Feb 15, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Gordon Keen wrote:

> I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus 
> w toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and 
> third press by phonetic spelling.
> 
> It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo 
> plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> G
> 
> From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.  
> On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> 
>> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is 
>> is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
>> link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into 
>> a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then 
>> by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, 
>> don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to 
>> be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with 
>> navigating instead.
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Re: Safari questions

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I would also suggest that once interacting with the link you use the vo plus w 
toggle to read on the first press the word, second press by character and third 
press by phonetic spelling.

It is also very useful to explore the potential of the web item rotor with vo 
plus u then moving the options with vo plus right arrow.

Hope this helps

G

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On 15 Feb 2012, at 10:37, Thomas McMahan wrote:

> In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is 
> is text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a 
> link though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into 
> a new document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then 
> by interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, 
> don't know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to 
> be at where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating 
> instead.

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Re: Safari questions

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In answer to your first question, yes v o shift down thus interact, if it is is 
text then you can read letter by letter with v o right arrow.  If it's a link 
though, no, so if you want the letters of a link then copy it over into a new 
document or in a new mail, unless it's in the address bar itself, then by 
interacting you can get it letter by letter.  As for the other questions, don't 
know because I don't use the find very often simply because I want to be at 
where I am hearing what is spoken anyway so will put up with navigating 
instead.  
On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:

> I know I'm pestering all of you folks and making you think, but now that 
> there is no PC, I have to learn some of the things that I was putting off. I 
> do try and find the answers by looking, but sometimes it doesn't seem to work 
> for me.
> 
> If you are reading a link or any text for that matter, is there any way to 
> see what you are reading letter by letter or word by word?
> 
> Also, I am very frustrated by the find feature. When I use command+f it finds 
> what I want wonderfully, but then it won't let me go there. And, is there a 
> quick command for finding the next occurrence of something you've already 
> searched for?
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Re: safari help still.

[Sarah Alawami]

Try control tabbing to the edit boxes and seeing if that helps. If not turn 
that off in the prefs, Actually turn on tab between controls that way you can 
ctrl tab between edit fields.

Take care.
On Nov 20, 2011, at 7:11 PM, michael wrote:

> Hi guys I think it was David who told me to turn off the quick nav so I can 
> access the edit boxes on a web page so I can sign in to read my phone bill.
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> Well I ttryed turning of the quick nav and I still couold not read the edit 
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Re: safari help please.

[michael]

Yes I do have quick nav on all the time.
Thanks for hint i will try it.


cheers.
-Original Message- 
From: David Griffith

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:45 PM
To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: safari help please.

Do you have quick nav on? I find I have to turn quick nav off or
alternatively interact with the edit box.

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Subject: safari help please.

Hi guys can any one help me maybe It only happens on the mac and iphone not
windows.
Wen i go to sign in to check my home phone bill i go to the web page and go
down to the sign in heading.
But can not get to the edit boxes now to enter user and password.
I can not interact with that sign in heading.
But can on my windows computer.
I am running the latest lion and safari.
Is their a setting please help.
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