Re: Siri and Orthography
Hello Esther, Your posting below causes me to wonder something else: Is it possible to peruse iBooks stores or other App stores on your Mac and have the item you purchased download to your iPhone when you go into the App store? I find that I am far more proficient on my Mac, in terms of web surfing than on my iPhone. If the answer to this question is in the affirmative, then how do I indicate that the item purchased is intended for use on the iPhone as opposed to on the Mac? Thanks and kindest regards, Mike to On 7,Feb,2012, at 10:37 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, Zack has already answered your question about using the free iBooks app to both purchase and read ePub books. (There's both a store for purchasing books and a library for holding ePub books or PDF books that you read in this app. Your library can include both books you purchase from the iBooks store, and any DRM-free eBooks that you load into the iBooks app, either by emailing them to yourself as an attachment, or downloading them from a linked version from a web page or Dropbox file, then opening the file in iBooks, or exporting to iBooks.) Talking to Siri is available in the Austrian iBooks store. On the main iTunes Store home page, there's a link for Change Country. I just checked by changing my iTunes Store country to Österreich and clicking on the link in my earlier post for Talking to Siri. The link worked, which means that the title is available in your store, and the price came up as 3.99 Euros. The easy way to change back to your country's iTunes Store is to sign into your account, since when you change countries you are immediately signed out. On my Mac I just press Command-Option-F to go to the search field, then VO-Down arrow to the sign in link and activate it with VO-Space. When I enter my login and password, I'll get a dialog window telling me that my Apple ID is only valid for the US iTunes Store, and that I will be switched there, so that I can try my purchase again (even though I'm not purchasing anything). I VO-Space on the OK button, and I'm switched to my account, which in my case is in the US iTunes Store. I think that the restrictions on iBooks titles to German language titles may apply to eBook versions of printed titles that are released and subject to copyright licensing distribution agreements by country -- for example, a popular novel for which different publishing groups in each country will bid on, for distribution sales rights. But titles like Talking to Siri exist only in electronic distributable form, and the authors make the distribution arrangements directly with Apple's iBookstore. There is no print copy of Talking to Siri distributed, as far as I know. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: This is helpful information indeed, Zack. My only concern thus far is that to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store. I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when I fly to the States. Best regards, Mike . On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mike, Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Esther, Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? Cheers, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, snip However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting Talking to Siri from the iBooks Store: • Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
Automatic Downloads of iTunes Purchases on iOS devices [was Re: Siri and Orthography]
Hi Mike, I've changed the subject line to reflect your question about automatically downloading iTunes purchases you make on your Mac to your iPhone. Yes, it's possible to browse for iBooks and Apps on your Mac using iTunes, purchase these items from iTunes on your computer, and have the item you purchased automatically download onto your iPhone or other iOS device. This also works for music purchases. On your iOS device, go to Settings Store. If you have a new iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, this is the last of the settings items for the options that are built into your device, just before the individual settings that may be present for apps that you purchase. On my iPhone I have to do a three finger flick up to scroll to the second page in order to access the Store setting. You can also use the four finger tap in the bottom half of the screen to go to the last element of the screen. (Note: I have far too many apps with settings loaded onto my iPhone to navigate to the Store s etting by going to the last element on my screen, so I just scroll to the second page, touch the bottom of the screen above the home button, and flick left to get to the Store setting.) Double tap on the Store button. On the Store screen you can set up Automatic Downloads, so that new iTunes Store purchases made for your account will automatically download to your device. This includes free apps, books, or music, and applies to purchases made from any location, such as your computer or another iOS device that shares the same Apple ID for your iTunes account. There are separate switches for Music, Apps, and Books, and you can double tap any of these to toggle the switch to On or back to Off. So you might want to have your new app and book purchases automatically download to your iPhone, but not your music purchases, if you buy a lot. There's also a switch that allows you to use cellular data to download these new purchases when not connected to Wi-Fi. I usually leave this turned off, so that large items don't download until I have a Wi-Fi connection in order to avoid having this add to my cellular data usage. There is a similar setting to activate automatic downloads for books, apps, and music under your iTunes Preferences menu on the Mac under the Store tab. On your computer, press command-comma, then navigate to the Store tab (Command-4). I leave these unchecked -- especially the option for apps, in case a later version of an app loses accessibility, since I don't want my working versions to be replaced. However, you might want to automatically download music purchases made on your iPhone to your home iTunes library. When iBooks was first released, it was not possible to browse or purchase books through iTunes. This is a relatively recent feature -- meaning that it has been around for some months, but some users may not be aware of it. You may find that book browsing, in particular, is easier to do from iTunes on your Mac. List users who have both an iPhone and an iPad will recognize that more iBooks browsing options are available from their iPads than from their iPhones because of the larger screen real estate. If I want to view options for items like Popular Pre-Orders or Best of the Month on my iPhone, I can copy and paste the link from iTunes and mail it to myself. If I double tap on that link from my iPhone, I'll be able to access that special page, but I may not find some of those link options under the Store screen in the iBooks app, simply because it would make the screen too cluttered. From iTunes on your Mac, you can go directly to browse the Books section. I'm going to assume that you have QuickNav turned on (by simultaneously pressing the right and left arrow keys to toggle this on or off), so that I can type (and you can press) Left arrow, instead of VO-Left arrow (or Control-Option-Left arrow) to navigate, and so that when I tell you to press the button you'll simultaneously press the up and down arrow keys instead of using VO-Space. For those readers who are using TrackPad commander and the touch interface that is similar to the iPhone screen, it's even faster to just flick left, right, up, or down and double tap to press buttons or activate links. Mac Mini, iMac users, and users with Mac Laptops made before 2009 will need to get a Magic Trackpad for this experience. 1. To browse the iBooks Store from iTunes on your Mac, select the iTunes Store in your sources table. Pressing Command-Shift-H will automatically select the iTunes Store, or you can choose Home under the Store menu of your iTunes menu bar, or else simply navigate to your sources table, interact, and navigate to iTunes Store 2. Navigate using your right or left arrow key to Books. I usually do this by pressing right arrow from the sources table to navigate through the buttons for Home, Music, Movies, TV Show, App Store and Books. When you right arrow from each
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hello Esther, Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? Cheers, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on macfortheblind prizmo tips to find the link -- just because prizmo is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices John has also put a .rtf file on What can you say to Siri? on his documentation page: http://macfortheblind.com/documentation However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting Talking to Siri from the iBooks Store: • Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. Have fun! Geoff - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hi Mike, Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Esther, Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? Cheers, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on macfortheblind prizmo tips to find the link -- just because prizmo is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices John has also put a .rtf file on What can you say to Siri? on his documentation page: http://macfortheblind.com/documentation However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting Talking to Siri from the iBooks Store: • Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. Have fun! Geoff - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hello Ian, Zack, Geoff and Esther, It works! Per your suggestions, I just announced the punctuation marks as I went, and it worked perfectly. Then, I switched my keyboard to German, spoke German (including punctuation marks) and Siri performed flawlessly. The only downside, when I switched to German, was that my phone still spoke English. I wonder if there is a way to tie the VO output language to the keyboard one has in use. At any rate, per Esther's suggestion, I will buy the book in the App Store in order to refine my approach to speech input. Since my iPhone has 64GB of RAM, it might be possible to compose longer texts using Siri. I also downloaded the Dragon Dictation app, but I haven't tried it out yet. You guys are great; thanks for your help! Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 7:13 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words comma and question mark and it will incert them for you. Ian McNamara --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
This is helpful information indeed, Zack. My only concern thus far is that to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store. I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when I fly to the States. Best regards, Mike . On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mike, Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Esther, Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? Cheers, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on macfortheblind prizmo tips to find the link -- just because prizmo is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices John has also put a .rtf file on What can you say to Siri? on his documentation page: http://macfortheblind.com/documentation However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting Talking to Siri from the iBooks Store: • Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. Have fun! Geoff - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hi Michael, Ibooks is a good app if it is available in the Ibooks store. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hi Mike, Zack has already answered your question about using the free iBooks app to both purchase and read ePub books. (There's both a store for purchasing books and a library for holding ePub books or PDF books that you read in this app. Your library can include both books you purchase from the iBooks store, and any DRM-free eBooks that you load into the iBooks app, either by emailing them to yourself as an attachment, or downloading them from a linked version from a web page or Dropbox file, then opening the file in iBooks, or exporting to iBooks.) Talking to Siri is available in the Austrian iBooks store. On the main iTunes Store home page, there's a link for Change Country. I just checked by changing my iTunes Store country to Österreich and clicking on the link in my earlier post for Talking to Siri. The link worked, which means that the title is available in your store, and the price came up as 3.99 Euros. The easy way to change back to your country's iTunes Store is to sign into your account, since when you change countries you are immediately signed out. On my Mac I just press Command-Option-F to go to the search field, then VO-Down arrow to the sign in link and activate it with VO-Space. When I enter my login and password, I'll get a dialog window telling me that my Apple ID is only valid for the US iTunes Store, and that I will be switched there, so that I can try my purchase again (even though I'm not purchasing anything). I VO-Space on the OK button, and I'm switched to my account, which in my case is in the US iTunes Store. I think that the restrictions on iBooks titles to German language titles may apply to eBook versions of printed titles that are released and subject to copyright licensing distribution agreements by country -- for example, a popular novel for which different publishing groups in each country will bid on, for distribution sales rights. But titles like Talking to Siri exist only in electronic distributable form, and the authors make the distribution arrangements directly with Apple's iBookstore. There is no print copy of Talking to Siri distributed, as far as I know. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: This is helpful information indeed, Zack. My only concern thus far is that to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store. I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when I fly to the States. Best regards, Mike . On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Mike, Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other device you can use iBooks with the vast majority of them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hello Esther, Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for everyone else who has taken the time to assist me. In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone. If I purchase the book, which app should I use to read it? Cheers, Mike On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, snip However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting Talking to Siri from the iBooks Store: • Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Siri and Orthography
Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words comma and question mark and it will incert them for you. Ian McNamara --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. Have fun! Geoff - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Siri and Orthography
Hi Mike, John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri. This is on the same page he keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on macfortheblind prizmo tips to find the link -- just because prizmo is pretty uncommon. Here's the link to the page: http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices John has also put a .rtf file on What can you say to Siri? on his documentation page: http://macfortheblind.com/documentation However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting Talking to Siri from the iBooks Store: • Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11 This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri. (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri punctuation dictation refinements is here. Have fun! Geoff - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography Hi Mike, Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, period, comma, and the like. Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this information. Hope this helps, Zack. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Hi, Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri. I was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in sentences. Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation marks in sentences? How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly? Thanks in advance, Mike --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
