Automatic Downloads of iTunes Purchases on iOS devices [was Re: Siri and Orthography]

[Esther]

Hi Mike,

I've changed the subject line to reflect your question about automatically 
downloading iTunes purchases you make on your Mac to your iPhone. Yes, it's 
possible to browse for iBooks and Apps on your Mac using iTunes, purchase these 
items from iTunes on your computer, and have the item you purchased 
automatically download onto your iPhone or other iOS device. This also works 
for music purchases. On your iOS device, go to Settings >  Store.  If you have 
a new iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, this is the last of the settings items for 
the options that are built into your device, just before the individual 
settings that may be present for apps that you purchase.  On my iPhone I have 
to do a three finger flick up to scroll to the second page in order to access 
the "Store" setting. You can also use the four finger tap in the bottom half of 
the screen to go to the last element of the screen.  (Note: I have far too many 
apps with settings loaded onto my iPhone to navigate to the "Store" s
 etting by going to the last element on my screen, so I just scroll to the 
second page, touch the bottom of the screen above the home button, and flick 
left to get to the "Store" setting.)

Double tap on the "Store" button.  On the "Store" screen you can set up 
Automatic Downloads, so that new iTunes Store purchases made for your account 
will automatically download to your device.  This includes "free" apps, books, 
or music, and applies to purchases made from any location, such as your 
computer or another iOS device that shares the same Apple ID for your iTunes  
account.  There are separate switches for Music, Apps, and Books, and you can 
double tap any of these to toggle the switch to "On" or back to "Off".  So you 
might want to have your new app and book purchases automatically download to 
your iPhone, but not your music purchases, if you buy a lot.  There's also a 
switch that allows you to use cellular data to download these new purchases 
when not connected to Wi-Fi.  I usually leave this turned off, so that large 
items don't download until I have a Wi-Fi connection in order to avoid having 
this add to my cellular data usage.

There is a similar setting to activate automatic downloads for books, apps, and 
music under your iTunes Preferences menu on the Mac under the Store tab.  On 
your computer, press command-comma, then navigate to the "Store" tab 
(Command-4).  I leave these unchecked -- especially the option for apps, in 
case a later version of an app loses accessibility, since I don't want my 
working versions to be replaced. However, you might want to automatically 
download music purchases made on your iPhone to your home iTunes library.  

When iBooks was first released, it was not possible to browse or purchase books 
through iTunes.  This is a relatively recent feature -- meaning that it has 
been around for some months, but some users may not be aware of it.  

You may find that book browsing, in particular, is easier to do from iTunes on 
your Mac.  List users who have both an iPhone and an iPad will recognize that 
more iBooks browsing options are available from their iPads than from their 
iPhones because of the larger screen real estate.  If I want to view options 
for items like "Popular Pre-Orders" or "Best of the Month" on my iPhone, I can 
copy and paste the link from iTunes and mail it to myself.  If I double tap on 
that link from my iPhone, I'll be able to access that special page, but I may 
not find some of those link options under the Store screen in the iBooks app, 
simply because it would make the screen too cluttered.

>From iTunes on your Mac, you can go directly to browse the Books section.  I'm 
>going to assume that you have QuickNav turned on (by simultaneously pressing 
>the right and left arrow keys to toggle this on or off), so that I can type 
>(and you can press) "Left arrow", instead of "VO-Left arrow" (or 
>"Control-Option-Left arrow") to navigate, and so that when I tell you to 
>"press the button" you'll simultaneously press the up and down arrow keys 
>instead of using VO-Space.  For those readers who are using TrackPad commander 
>and the touch interface that is similar to the iPhone screen, it's even faster 
>to just flick left, right, up, or down and double tap to press buttons or 
>activate links.  Mac Mini, iMac  users, and users with Mac Laptops made before 
>2009 will need to get a Magic Trackpad for this experience.

1. To browse the iBooks Store from iTunes on your Mac, select the "iTunes 
Store" in your sources table.  Pressing Command-Shift-H will automatically 
select the iTunes Store, or you can choose "Home" under the "Store" menu of 
your iTunes menu bar, or else simply navigate to your sources table, interact, 
and navigate to "iTunes Store"

2. Navigate using your right or left arrow key to "Books".  I usually do this 
by pressing right arrow from the sources table  to navigate through the buttons 
for "Home", "Music", "Movies", "TV Sh

Re: Siri and Orthography

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Esther,

Your posting below causes me to wonder something else:

Is it possible to peruse iBooks stores or other App stores on your Mac and have 
the item you purchased download to your iPhone when you go into the App store?  
I find that I am far more proficient on my Mac, in terms of web surfing than on 
my iPhone.  If the answer to this question is in the affirmative, then how do I 
indicate that the item purchased is intended for use on the iPhone as opposed 
to on the Mac?

Thanks and kindest regards,

Mike
 to  
On 7,Feb,2012, at 10:37 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> Zack has already answered your question about using the free  iBooks app to 
> both purchase and read ePub books. (There's both a "store" for purchasing 
> books and a "library" for holding ePub books or PDF books that you read in 
> this app.  Your library can include both books you purchase from the iBooks 
> store, and any DRM-free eBooks that you load into the iBooks app, either by 
> emailing them to yourself as an attachment, or downloading them from a linked 
> version from a web page or Dropbox file, then opening the file in iBooks, or 
> exporting to iBooks.)  "Talking to Siri" is available in the Austrian iBooks 
> store. On the main iTunes Store home page, there's a link for "Change 
> Country". I just checked by changing my iTunes Store country to "Österreich" 
> and clicking on the link in my earlier post for "Talking to Siri".  The link 
> worked, which means that the title is available in your store, and the price 
> came up as 3.99 Euros.  
> 
> The easy way to change back to your country's iTunes Store is to sign into 
> your account, since when you change countries you are immediately signed out. 
> On my Mac I just press Command-Option-F to go to the search field, then 
> VO-Down arrow to the sign in link and activate it with VO-Space.  When I 
> enter my login and password, I'll get a dialog window telling me that my 
> Apple ID is only valid for the US iTunes Store, and that I will be switched 
> there, so that I can try my purchase again (even though I'm not purchasing 
> anything). I VO-Space on the "OK" button, and I'm switched to my account, 
> which in my case is in the US iTunes Store.
> 
> I think that the restrictions on iBooks titles to German language titles may 
> apply to eBook versions of printed titles that are released and subject to 
> copyright licensing distribution agreements by country -- for example, a 
> popular novel for which different publishing groups in each country will bid 
> on, for distribution sales rights.  But titles like "Talking to Siri" exist 
> only in electronic distributable form, and the authors make the distribution 
> arrangements directly with Apple's iBookstore.  There is no print copy of 
> "Talking to Siri" distributed, as far as I know.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> This is helpful information indeed, Zack.  My only concern thus far is that 
>> to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria 
>> that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store.  
>> I sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app 
>> store when I fly to the States.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Mike
>> .
>> On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester 
>>> mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you 
>>> can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, 
>>> and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, 
>>> at least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the 
>>> books on any other device you can use iBooks  with the vast majority of 
>>> them, excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical 
>>> multimedia.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Esther,
 
 Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for 
 everyone else who has taken the time to assist me.
 
 In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the 
 Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun. 
  It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone.  If I 
 purchase the book, which app should I use to read it?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Mike
 
 On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote:
 Hi Mike,
> 
> 
> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking 
> to Siri" from the iBooks Store:
> • "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent 
> Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Esther]

Hi Mike,

Zack has already answered your question about using the free  iBooks app to 
both purchase and read ePub books. (There's both a "store" for purchasing books 
and a "library" for holding ePub books or PDF books that you read in this app.  
Your library can include both books you purchase from the iBooks store, and any 
DRM-free eBooks that you load into the iBooks app, either by emailing them to 
yourself as an attachment, or downloading them from a linked version from a web 
page or Dropbox file, then opening the file in iBooks, or exporting to iBooks.) 
 "Talking to Siri" is available in the Austrian iBooks store. On the main 
iTunes Store home page, there's a link for "Change Country". I just checked by 
changing my iTunes Store country to "Österreich" and clicking on the link in my 
earlier post for "Talking to Siri".  The link worked, which means that the 
title is available in your store, and the price came up as 3.99 Euros.  

The easy way to change back to your country's iTunes Store is to sign into your 
account, since when you change countries you are immediately signed out. On my 
Mac I just press Command-Option-F to go to the search field, then VO-Down arrow 
to the sign in link and activate it with VO-Space.  When I enter my login and 
password, I'll get a dialog window telling me that my Apple ID is only valid 
for the US iTunes Store, and that I will be switched there, so that I can try 
my purchase again (even though I'm not purchasing anything). I VO-Space on the 
"OK" button, and I'm switched to my account, which in my case is in the US 
iTunes Store.

I think that the restrictions on iBooks titles to German language titles may 
apply to eBook versions of printed titles that are released and subject to 
copyright licensing distribution agreements by country -- for example, a 
popular novel for which different publishing groups in each country will bid 
on, for distribution sales rights.  But titles like "Talking to Siri" exist 
only in electronic distributable form, and the authors make the distribution 
arrangements directly with Apple's iBookstore.  There is no print copy of 
"Talking to Siri" distributed, as far as I know.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 6, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> This is helpful information indeed, Zack.  My only concern thus far is that 
> to date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria 
> that only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store.  I 
> sure hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app 
> store when I fly to the States.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mike
> .
> On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester 
>> mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you 
>> can also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, 
>> and free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at 
>> least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books 
>> on any other device you can use iBooks  with the vast majority of them, 
>> excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Zack.
>> On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Esther,
>>> 
>>> Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for 
>>> everyone else who has taken the time to assist me.
>>> 
>>> In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the 
>>> Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun.  
>>> It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone.  If I 
>>> purchase the book, which app should I use to read it?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
 
 
 However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking 
 to Siri" from the iBooks Store:
 • "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent 
 Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
 
 

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Re: Siri and Orthography

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Hi Michael, Ibooks is a good app if it is available in the Ibooks store.
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Michael Busboom]

This is helpful information indeed, Zack.  My only concern thus far is that to 
date, I keep hearing from English-speaking iPhone users here in Austria that 
only German language titles can be purchased from the Austrian store.  I sure 
hope that I can purchase and enjoy books in English from the US app store when 
I fly to the States.

Best regards,

Mike
.
On 7,Feb,2012, at 9:05 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester 
> mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can 
> also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and 
> free, so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at 
> least in the US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on 
> any other device you can use iBooks  with the vast majority of them, 
> excluding some which contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia.
> Hope this helps,
> Zack.
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hello Esther,
>> 
>> Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for 
>> everyone else who has taken the time to assist me.
>> 
>> In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the 
>> Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun.  
>> It has been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone.  If I 
>> purchase the book, which app should I use to read it?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that 
>>> you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for 
>>> Dragon Dictation, that also apply to Siri.  This is on the same page he 
>>> keeps for third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search 
>>> on "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" 
>>> is pretty uncommon.  Here's the link to the page:
>>> <http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices>
>>> 
>>> John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his 
>>> documentation page:
>>> <http://macfortheblind.com/documentation>
>>> 
>>> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking 
>>> to Siri" from the iBooks Store:
>>> • "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" 
>>> by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11
>>> This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of 
>>> what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition 
>>> of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue 
>>> twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can 
>>> find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also 
>>> discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, 
>>> such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with 
>>> Siri.  (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices 
>>> that don't support Siri.)
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
>>>> punctuation dictation refinements is here.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Have fun!
>>>> Geoff
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Zachary Kline 
>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>> Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," 
>>>> "comma," and the like.
>>>> Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
>>>> there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some 
>>>> use of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other 
>>>> places, in any good boo

Re: Siri and Orthography

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Ian, Zack, Geoff and Esther,

It works! Per your suggestions, I just announced the punctuation marks as I 
went, and it worked perfectly.  Then, I switched my keyboard to German, spoke 
German (including punctuation marks) and Siri performed flawlessly.  The only 
downside, when I switched to German, was that my phone still spoke English.  I 
wonder if there is a way to tie the VO output language to the keyboard one has 
in use.  At any rate, per Esther's suggestion, I will buy the book in the App 
Store in order to refine my approach to speech input.  Since my iPhone has 64GB 
of RAM, it might be possible to compose longer texts using Siri.  I also 
downloaded the Dragon Dictation app, but I haven't tried it out yet.

You guys are great; thanks for your help!

Mike

On 6,Feb,2012, at 7:13 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words 
> comma and question mark and it will incert them for you.
> 
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Mike,
Apple's iBOoks app will read eBOoks quite handily, including the one Ester 
mentioned. It's also the way you purchase books via the phone, though you can 
also do this on a mac or PC with iTunes. The app is quite accessible, and free, 
so I recommend taking a look at it. The available book catalog, at least in the 
US, is extensive, and though you can't read most of the books on any other 
device you can use iBooks  with the vast majority of them, excluding some which 
contain bits of inaccessible graphical multimedia.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Hello Esther,
> 
> Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for 
> everyone else who has taken the time to assist me.
> 
> In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language 
> of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun.  It has 
> been my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone.  If I purchase 
> the book, which app should I use to read it?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that 
>> you might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon 
>> Dictation, that also apply to Siri.  This is on the same page he keeps for 
>> third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on 
>> "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is 
>> pretty uncommon.  Here's the link to the page:
>> <http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices>
>> 
>> John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his 
>> documentation page:
>> <http://macfortheblind.com/documentation>
>> 
>> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to 
>> Siri" from the iBooks Store:
>> • "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" 
>> by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11
>> This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of 
>> what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition 
>> of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue 
>> twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can 
>> find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also 
>> discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, 
>> such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with 
>> Siri.  (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices 
>> that don't support Siri.)
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
>>> punctuation dictation refinements is here.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have fun!
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Zachary Kline 
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," 
>>> "comma," and the like.
>>> Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
>>> there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use 
>>> of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other 
>>> places, in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up 
>>> this information.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I 
>>>> was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
>>>> sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
>>>> marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>> 
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Esther,

Firstly, I would like to thank you for responding, and the same goes for 
everyone else who has taken the time to assist me.

In your response,Esther, you mentioned Talking to Siri: Learning the Language 
of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun.  It has been 
my impression that ebooks can't be read on the iPhone.  If I purchase the book, 
which app should I use to read it?

Cheers,

Mike

 
On 6,Feb,2012, at 8:41 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you 
> might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon 
> Dictation, that also apply to Siri.  This is on the same page he keeps for 
> third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on 
> "macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is 
> pretty uncommon.  Here's the link to the page:
> <http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices>
> 
> John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his 
> documentation page:
> <http://macfortheblind.com/documentation>
> 
> However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to 
> Siri" from the iBooks Store:
> • "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" 
> by Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11
> This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of 
> what you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition 
> of your voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue 
> twisters to practice with), It basically assembles the information you can 
> find on the internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also 
> discusses a few items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, 
> such as MailShot for group email messaging, that are designed to work with 
> Siri.  (This app is accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices 
> that don't support Siri.)
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
>> punctuation dictation refinements is here.  
>> 
>> 
>> Have fun!
>> Geoff
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Zachary Kline 
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
>> and the like.
>> Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
>> there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use 
>> of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, 
>> in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
>> information.
>> Hope this helps,
>> Zack.
>> On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I 
>>> was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
>>> sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
>>> marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Esther]

Hi Mike,

John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you 
might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon 
Dictation, that also apply to Siri.  This is on the same page he keeps for 
third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on 
"macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is 
pretty uncommon.  Here's the link to the page:
<http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-Third-Party-Applications-on-iOS-Devices>

John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his 
documentation page:
<http://macfortheblind.com/documentation>

However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to 
Siri" from the iBooks Store:
• "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by 
Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11
This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what 
you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your 
voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to 
practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the 
internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few 
items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot 
for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri.  (This app is 
accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
> punctuation dictation refinements is here.  
> 
> 
> Have fun!
>  Geoff
> 
>  - Original Message ----- 
>  From: Zachary Kline 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
>  Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography
> 
> 
>  Hi Mike,
>  Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
> and the like.
>  Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
> there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use 
> of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, 
> in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
> information.
>  Hope this helps,
>  Zack.
>  On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I was 
>> wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
>> sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
>> marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 

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Re: Siri and Orthography

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I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
punctuation dictation refinements is here.  


Have fun!
  Geoff

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  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography


  Hi Mike,
  Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
and the like.
  Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of 
the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in 
any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
information.
  Hope this helps,
  Zack.
  On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

  > Hi,
  > 
  > Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I 
was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
  > 
  > Thanks in advance,
  > 
  > Mike
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Zachary Kline]

Hi Mike,
Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
and the like.
Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of 
the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in 
any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
information.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I was 
> wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
> sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
> marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Ian McNamara]

Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words 
comma and question mark and it will incert them for you.

Ian McNamara
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Siri and Orthography

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Hi,

Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I was 
wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?

Thanks in advance,

Mike
 
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