iPad

[Chris H]

Good evening all again.
Well finally had chance to look at an iPad today at the group!
A member of staff has one, an iPad 4 3G model.
All I can say is wow! I like the bigger screen very much! I was able to 
tap around with two hands, something I can't do with an iPhone.
She is not a VoiceOver user so couldn't really get to play with it. But 
least I now have an idea and can see myself using one in the future.

Just got to look at an iPad mini now for comparison.
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iPad

[Chris H]

Hello everyone
thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear 
it too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 
inches, and the sound quality is great.

So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
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New iPad

[Chris H]

Hi all
well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet, 
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not 
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose 
silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can 
store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should 
be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.

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New iPad

[Chris H]

Good evening all
well i finally got my iPad mini wifi 128 gb in silver over an hour ago.
The setup was painless, but lol! I had to turn everything on in iCloud 
settings just to get my contacts for example!
Now I'm currently downloading the free apps that Apple now offers when 
you purchase a new iDevice, such as Pages. This is why I'm not sending 
this from my iPad at this time.
Well my impressions overall? Very good! Feels nice and shiny, sound 
quality is just amazing, and the on-screen keyboard is very nice 
actually! Reminds me of a laptop keyboard because of the placement of 
the comma and period keys to the right of m for example. Just need some 
more practice though but I am getting there. But lol! earlier on, could 
I find the at key as part of signing into my Apple Id? Could I heck! 
Turned out it was to the right of the m key!
Anyway will keep you updated but those are my feelings so far. Can't 
wait to test the sound out with music I synced to my iPad earlier on. 
Speaking of which going to forget iTunes Match altogether, because it 
won't let me sync my music for offline listening otherwise.

You take care and hope we can get something going on this!


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Fwd: ipad

[william lomas]

fleksy as you can see not ipad compatible yet


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ioannis Verdelis 
> Subject: Re: ipad
> Date: 13 July 2012 08:03:00 BST
> To: william lomas 
> 
> William
> 
> Fleksy will currently work with iPhones. I believe it can be installed on an 
> iPad but will only work on the iPhone emulation mode (in 1x and 2x).
> 
> We plan an iPad version soon.
> 
> Thanks for getting in touch.
> 
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> On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:44 PM, william lomas wrote:
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>> hi does the newly release fleksy app work ipad 3?
>> 
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Re: ipad

[krystal watson]

sorry i thaught it did i will wait till it works on i pad then before i buy it 
On 13/07/2012, at 5:24 PM, william lomas wrote:

>   fleksy as you can see not ipad compatible yet
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Ioannis Verdelis 
>> Subject: Re: ipad
>> Date: 13 July 2012 08:03:00 BST
>> To: william lomas 
>> 
>> William
>> 
>> Fleksy will currently work with iPhones. I believe it can be installed on an 
>> iPad but will only work on the iPhone emulation mode (in 1x and 2x).
>> 
>> We plan an iPad version soon.
>> 
>> Thanks for getting in touch.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> +1 (415) 513-0212
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>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:44 PM, william lomas wrote:
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>>> hi does the newly release fleksy app work ipad 3?
>>> 
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Re: ipad

[krystal watson]

sorry i was only going by what it said in the requirments 
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>   fleksy as you can see not ipad compatible yet
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Ioannis Verdelis 
>> Subject: Re: ipad
>> Date: 13 July 2012 08:03:00 BST
>> To: william lomas 
>> 
>> William
>> 
>> Fleksy will currently work with iPhones. I believe it can be installed on an 
>> iPad but will only work on the iPhone emulation mode (in 1x and 2x).
>> 
>> We plan an iPad version soon.
>> 
>> Thanks for getting in touch.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Ioannis VerdelisCo-Founder and COOwww.syntellia.com
>> 
>> reply://ioan...@syntellia.com
>> +1 (415) 513-0212
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:44 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>> hi does the newly release fleksy app work ipad 3?
>>> 
>> 
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ipad mini

[william lomas]

hi all i have my ipad mini i like the design seems snappy.
still can't get rid of daniel on my iphone 4s a a premium voice just hope if i 
set to US i get samamtha, though a reset on the phone with ios six did not get 
this result so hope ipad mini does
will

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Latest iPad

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

My iPad 64GB was delivered earlier on today, so what are we up to now iPad IV 
or is it iPad V, I've lost track somewhere .

Anyway I cannot say that I'm suitably impressed with this tablet except for one 
thing.

Perhaps I'm dreaming here or perhaps I have to get used to it but I don't think 
the internal iPad speaker of this generation is quite as good as that found on 
the first generation of iPad I just rid myself of and believe me! I wouldn't 
have done that had I been able to update to the latest IOS version but I 
couldn't which was very unfortunate.

However its just "One Of Those Things" and nothing can be done about it, the 
only thing that can be done is to enjoy my new iPad and I'll do that to the 
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iPad mini

[Chris H]

Hello everyone
just a quick message to say there might be an iPad mini owner in the 
family at Christmas as I'm hoping my half brothers get one for Christmas 
from our parents. Father rung me and asked what one can do with a wifi 
tablet and tole them. I then gave a sort of a hint to consider the iPad 
or iPad mini for two reasons.
1. They have an iPod Touch already so makes sense to get a tablet 
running on the same platform.
2. Since I am a devoted Apple user and helper I will be able to offer 
help for an iPad or iPad mini instead of what they liked the look of; a 
Samsung tablet. Sorry to sneak that in there grin.
Keep you posted as if they do get the mini I am hoping to feel and have 
a brief play with it. Note they are not VoiceOver users but I am.

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Re: iPad

[Phil Halton]

I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that isn't 
available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?


On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Hello everyone
> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear it 
> too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, and 
> the sound quality is great.
> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
> Kind regards
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Re: iPad

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi,
I have both an i phone and an i pad 2.

I love the portability of the i phone, obviously.

I mainly use the i pad at home or in places like Starbuck’s.  for longer 
sessions of reading and writing, it’s more comfortable for me, ergonomically.  
I am totally blind, so screen size doesn’t mean anything visually, but the 
larger real estate does make a difference for typing and gestures.

It really does come down to personal preference and also, of course, finances.  
Also, with the i pad, of course, you can only make calls from a wifi spot, with 
things like Skype.

hth,
Cait

On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
> iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that 
> isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone
>> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear it 
>> too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, 
>> and the sound quality is great.
>> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
>> Kind regards
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Re: iPad

[Dane Trethowan]

I use my iPad as there are situations where an iPhone is inpractical to 
use with some Apps because of its small screen.


Mostly I use the iPad as an Internet radio or music player as the 
speaker in my iPad III sounded damn good, I also prefer this device for 
when I'm reading iBooks.


I just sold my iPad III and will be upgrading to an iPad Air shortly 
where the sound is supposed to be better again, the iPad Air has stereo 
speakers, is 30% lighter than the iPad III so it will be even more 
comfortable to use etc.



On 6/12/2013 10:03 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:

Hi,
I have both an i phone and an i pad 2.

I love the portability of the i phone, obviously.

I mainly use the i pad at home or in places like Starbuck’s.  for longer 
sessions of reading and writing, it’s more comfortable for me, ergonomically.  
I am totally blind, so screen size doesn’t mean anything visually, but the 
larger real estate does make a difference for typing and gestures.

It really does come down to personal preference and also, of course, finances.  
Also, with the i pad, of course, you can only make calls from a wifi spot, with 
things like Skype.

hth,
Cait

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I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that isn't 
available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?


On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:


Hello everyone
thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear it too. 
She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, and the 
sound quality is great.
So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
Kind regards
Chris.
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Re: iPad

[Mary Otten]

Hi Phil,
Aside from the different layout that you get on the iPad with some apps, which 
some folks like and others don't, there are advantages to having more than one 
device. It's sort of depends on how much you use your phone every day. I know 
that I could not do everything on my phone that I do on my phone plus my iPad, 
simply because the battery would run out. And I do like the sound of the larger 
speaker or bigger cabinet or whatever it is on the iPad. So I do most of my 
reading an radio listening on the pad.
Mary


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On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
> iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that 
> isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone
>> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear it 
>> too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, 
>> and the sound quality is great.
>> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
>> Kind regards
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Re: iPad

[Glenn]

Its processor is not as good, and camera is significantly lesser, and it is 
bulky in comparison.  And I don't know if they have GPS in them.
The speakers are much better, but heck, with decent bluetooth speakers that 
are affordable, I see its speaker as a non-issue.
Glenn
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To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: iPad


I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that 
isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?


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> too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, 
> and the sound quality is great.
> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to 
> go.
> Kind regards
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Re: iPad

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Keep in mind that the cameras on the iPads and the iPods don't come close to 
the resolution of the cameras on iPhones.
This means you will have trouble scanning for OCR and scanning barcodes.
My wife has an iPad, and it cannot read barcodes, but she has no problem 
with her iPhone.
Glenn
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Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: iPad


Hello everyone
thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear
it too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8
inches, and the sound quality is great.
So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
Kind regards
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Re: iPad

[Mary Otten]

Glenn, the new iPad has the exact same processor as the newest iPhone. Same for 
the new mini. So how can you say it's processor is any worse? Plus it gets 
excellent battery life, better than the iPhone. Yes it is larger. But 
especially for the mini, it's not that big a deal. If you use your device a lot 
a single iPhone won't cut it. That is, unless you want to carry around some 
kind of external battery. Talk about the hassle. I love the iPhone. But since I 
use my iOS devices for so much, I'm very grateful to have the iPad mini. If I 
didn't want a phone, I would probably just have a mini if I can only have one 
device.
Mary


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On Dec 5, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> Its processor is not as good, and camera is significantly lesser, and it is 
> bulky in comparison.  And I don't know if they have GPS in them.
> The speakers are much better, but heck, with decent bluetooth speakers that 
> are affordable, I see its speaker as a non-issue.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: iPad
> 
> 
> I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
> iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that 
> isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone
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>> too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, 
>> and the sound quality is great.
>> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to 
>> go.
>> Kind regards
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Re: iPad

[Chris H]

Not particularly bothered about that as I hardly use the camera. 
However, does Looktel Money Reader and Tap Tap See work on the iPad and 
if so how well?


On 06/12/2013 02:27, Glenn wrote:

Keep in mind that the cameras on the iPads and the iPods don't come close to
the resolution of the cameras on iPhones.
This means you will have trouble scanning for OCR and scanning barcodes.
My wife has an iPad, and it cannot read barcodes, but she has no problem
with her iPhone.
Glenn
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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: iPad


Hello everyone
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So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
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Re: iPad

[Chris H]

Not Phil but ok, I currently use my phone every day, therefore only 
getting two to three days battery life at a push. With the pad and this 
is just an example I could receive a notification on the phone but 
actually deal with it on the pad, therefore saving battery life on the 
phone.


On 06/12/2013 01:12, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Phil,
Aside from the different layout that you get on the iPad with some apps, which 
some folks like and others don't, there are advantages to having more than one 
device. It's sort of depends on how much you use your phone every day. I know 
that I could not do everything on my phone that I do on my phone plus my iPad, 
simply because the battery would run out. And I do like the sound of the larger 
speaker or bigger cabinet or whatever it is on the iPad. So I do most of my 
reading an radio listening on the pad.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:


I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that isn't 
available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?


On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:


Hello everyone
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She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, and the 
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So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
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Re: iPad

[Glenn]

An extra battery pack on the phone is still much smaller than lugging an 
iPad.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: iPad


Not Phil but ok, I currently use my phone every day, therefore only
getting two to three days battery life at a push. With the pad and this
is just an example I could receive a notification on the phone but
actually deal with it on the pad, therefore saving battery life on the
phone.

On 06/12/2013 01:12, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> Aside from the different layout that you get on the iPad with some apps, 
> which some folks like and others don't, there are advantages to having 
> more than one device. It's sort of depends on how much you use your phone 
> every day. I know that I could not do everything on my phone that I do on 
> my phone plus my iPad, simply because the battery would run out. And I do 
> like the sound of the larger speaker or bigger cabinet or whatever it is 
> on the iPad. So I do most of my reading an radio listening on the pad.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>
>> I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over 
>> an iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does 
>> that isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?
>>
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone
>>> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear 
>>> it too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 
>>> inches, and the sound quality is great.
>>> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to 
>>> go.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Chris.
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Re: iPad

[Glenn]

I used it on an iPod, which has the same camera specs as an iPad, and it was 
slow when it did recognize the bills.
My wife is sighted and  even pointing her camera directly at a barcode does 
not get recognized, but it works well with her iPhone.
I haven't tried an iPad with TapTapSee, I only know that the resolution is 
poor on the iPads.
Glenn
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Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: iPad


Not particularly bothered about that as I hardly use the camera.
However, does Looktel Money Reader and Tap Tap See work on the iPad and
if so how well?

On 06/12/2013 02:27, Glenn wrote:
> Keep in mind that the cameras on the iPads and the iPods don't come close 
> to
> the resolution of the cameras on iPhones.
> This means you will have trouble scanning for OCR and scanning barcodes.
> My wife has an iPad, and it cannot read barcodes, but she has no problem
> with her iPhone.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
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> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:10 PM
> Subject: iPad
>
>
> Hello everyone
> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear
> it too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8
> inches, and the sound quality is great.
> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to 
> go.
> Kind regards
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Re: iPad

[Matthew Carello]

Me and my wife recently upgraded to the iPhone 5s. We each got a Mophie air 
juice pack\. These are awesome. They do not make the phone to big and I 
actually like the style. With my normal use I started it on the charging part 
at 5:30 yesterday morning. After the charger part died it went to phone battery 
and is still going as I write this email. I used some gps, read, and did some 
social stuff on it. So far this battery pack looks really worth it.
On Dec 6, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> An extra battery pack on the phone is still much smaller than lugging an 
> iPad.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris H" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: iPad
> 
> 
> Not Phil but ok, I currently use my phone every day, therefore only
> getting two to three days battery life at a push. With the pad and this
> is just an example I could receive a notification on the phone but
> actually deal with it on the pad, therefore saving battery life on the
> phone.
> 
> On 06/12/2013 01:12, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Phil,
>> Aside from the different layout that you get on the iPad with some apps, 
>> which some folks like and others don't, there are advantages to having 
>> more than one device. It's sort of depends on how much you use your phone 
>> every day. I know that I could not do everything on my phone that I do on 
>> my phone plus my iPad, simply because the battery would run out. And I do 
>> like the sound of the larger speaker or bigger cabinet or whatever it is 
>> on the iPad. So I do most of my reading an radio listening on the pad.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over 
>>> an iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does 
>>> that isn't available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear 
>>>> it too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 
>>>> inches, and the sound quality is great.
>>>> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to 
>>>> go.
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Chris.
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IPad 2

[Sadam Ahmed]

The iPad does indeed speak out of the box. All Apple products that ship out of  
Apple after the release of I o s 5 should be preloaded with the new  OS. Kind 
regards, Sadam. 

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iPad help

[Glenn]

Hi All,
I have been working with a client on using his iPad, a new model, based on 
my use of my iPhone 5 with VoiceOver.
Something strange that I have found while in "settings", is when I open an 
area like "general", and I swipe right-to-left, to move up the screen, I 
cannot find any "back" buttons.  So for example, in general, I should be 
able to swipe back until I hear:
"settings back button"
And that will close out that section and place me in the main settings 
window.
Also, another strange thing I have found is that when I open something like 
general, I have to swipe ahead for the actual general options, it seems to 
have elements of the main window between "general" and any of the items that 
are within that area.
So far, the iPad does not seem as easy to use as my iPhone or the iPod.
Glenn

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new ipad

[william lomas]

new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint broke, 
don't fix it


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iPad & GPS

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello everybody

Does anybody happen to know whether the iPad third generation has GPS? I would 
doubt it, and could well understand the reasons why it wouldn't. Just thought 
I'd ask.

Lynne

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Differences between the iPad and the iPad 2?

[Desi Noller]

My sighted husband has been making noises about wanting an iPad.  Other family 
members and I want to get him one for Christmas.  He isn't particularly 
technologically inclined, but does have his own iMac and has used my iPod touch 
some.  His main reason for wanting an iPad instead of an iPod Touch, is so that 
he can have access to a larger screen.  I know he doesn't want to have to pay 
extra for a data plan right now.  besides the price, what are the differences 
between the classic iPad and the iPad 2?  I know this isn't list related, so if 
any of you can shed some light on this for me, I would be most appreciative if 
you would reply to me privately.  Thanks so much!  My e-mail address is:

desiandca...@q.com

Desi
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RE: Differences between the ipad and the ipad 2?

[Bubba]

It has two camera as the ipad1 don't have any, it has a faster processer and
more ram and it has that sentive touch screen that theipad1 don't have I
forget what the techno name they call it.  This is where GB app will work on
the Ipad2 but not on the Ipad1 . These is the main difference as well as the
Ipad2 is thinner and lighter. HTH 


Bubba
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My sighted husband has been making noises about wanting an iPad.  Other
family members and I want to get him one for Christmas.  He isn't
particularly technologically inclined, but does have his own iMac and has
used my iPod touch some.  His main reason for wanting an iPad instead of an
iPod Touch, is so that he can have access to a larger screen.  I know he
doesn't want to have to pay extra for a data plan right now.  besides the
price, what are the differences between the classic iPad and the iPad 2?  I
know this isn't list related, so if any of you can shed some light on this
for me, I would be most appreciative if you would reply to me privately.
Thanks so much!  My e-mail address is:

desiandca...@q.com

Desi
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Re: iPad Third Generation] & iPad Original Generation; [Comparatively Speaking]

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Mary, Brian, William and all others who have contributed to this 
discussion.

Mary; at your tolerance, I'm going to correct all of the spelling errors in 
your below post, from which I want to take sections and respond to comments. 
Please don't take this as a snub or anything; it just makes it easier for 
VoiceOver users who have spell checking enabled.

On 19 Jun 2012, at 23:45, Mary Otten  wrote:

• I too was rather surprised about the dropping of support for the original 
iPad i iOS6, given that they will continue support for the aged 3GS.

I agree with this comment, and I am trying to get a little more insight on this 
issue because I don't quite see the logic. However, what I will say is that the 
performance of the iPad 3 in comparison to the iPad 1, (as I'll call the 
original iPad here), is mind-blowing. I'm comparing like with like; our iPad 1 
is a 64GB model with 3G and WiFi compatibility. The new iPad does have one very 
big advantage.  It's Wi-fi is Wireless-N rather than the slower Wireless-G 
which the original iPad is. The new model operates in the 5.2 GHZ band although 
it does appear to have fallback should the router not support Wireless-N.

I am fortunate in this comparison because I can actually see both iPads working 
side-by-side and performing the same tasks. I couldn't believe it when I saw 
the difference! The iPad 1 is noticeably slower when, for instance, opening a 
Pages document. On the new iPad it's there in the blink of an eye. On the iPad 
1, it takes 2 to 3 seconds to open the same document.

Alright; you may say what is 2 to 3 seconds. That is fair comment. But when you 
are looking to have spontaneously accessed information, there is no doubt about 
it, the iPad 3 wins hands-down.

Mary wrote:

• Then again, Apple have never been known to give much of a fig for legacy 
anything. So I suppose the surprise should be that they're still supporting the 
3GS, not that they're dropping support for the iPad. I own an original iPad, 
and I certainly would think twice about sinking big bucks in to another one if 
this 2-year product cycle is going to be Apple's norm for iPads. Admittedly, I 
bought my IPad after the 2 was already out and prices on the original had 
dropped a lot. But even at that, I'd have expected to get another year out of 
my original iPad before being tossed off the upgrade bus completely.

I absolutely agree with your comment. It really is a very strange decision on 
Apple's part, and I do think that they have short-changed their customers here. 
After all, one can hardly expect to have to replace their devices quite as 
frequently as that. It is true that not long after the iPhone 4 was released 
came the iPhone 4S. Many people who had bought the iPhone 4 were extremely 
miffed because they weren't aware of the enhancements in the iPhone 4S when 
they spent their money. These things are not cheap, nor can one justify simply 
ditching their old models at the drop of a hat. I can tell you that, although I 
bought an iPad 3 for Gordon, we most definitely will not be ditching the iPad 1 
because it still has a lot of life left in it yet.

True: Gordon opted to upgrade his iPhone 3GS because an attractive offer came 
along which meant that he didn't need to pay the full price, or to change his 
phone number. His old 3GS went as trade-in so it didn't mean a redundant iPhone 
sitting in the cupboard.

Actually, I believe that Apple is offering customers a 10% upgrade trade-in for 
their old iPad. Our only problem with that was that we'd have had to spend time 
and money getting the old one back to Apple before claiming our new iPad. We're 
off to Wimbledon soon; so I opted to buy it outright. Also there is no Apple 
retail store close to us, so that wasn't an option either.

But in conclusion, I can only say that the iPad 3 is blisteringly fast in 
comparison to the original models. I have not yet discovered how you start the 
dictation features, so haven't tried them.

Just one more little point, not that it really matters, but it is just for 
reference. When people write the word "iPad", it should really be done with a 
small letter i as the first letter, and a capital P, small a and small d. The 
same is true for the word "iPhone" the I=i should be lower case and the P 
upper. Again not that it really matters; it's just a small point. :)

Lynne

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Re: New iPad

[meadowlark77]

That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy the 
excitement with ya!
\
Take care,

Brenda

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- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: New iPad


Hi all
well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
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be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.
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Re: New iPad

[Chris H]

Hi Brenda
please do, smile.

Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 28/12/2013 17:00, meadowlark77 wrote:

That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy the
excitement with ya!
\
Take care,

Brenda

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From: "Chris H" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:16 AM
Subject: New iPad


Hi all
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Re: New iPad

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It's fantastic! Thinking of it at some point.

Take care,

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From: "Chris H" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: New iPad


Hi Brenda
please do, smile.

Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 28/12/2013 17:00, meadowlark77 wrote:
> That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy 
> the
> excitement with ya!
> \
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris H" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:16 AM
> Subject: New iPad
>
>
> Hi all
> well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
> iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
> get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
> silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can
> store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should
> be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.
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Re: New iPad

[john gallagher]

hi there well now at least we have the choice i have just upgraded to a new 
iphone where i can connect my new device to the  mac. sadly though i cannot 
seem to do this with my new braille sense u 2 mini as when i try to connect to 
the mac it says cannot find drivers. never mind maybe there is a way to acquire 
the drivers. i have the mac book pro and am still learning 

- Original Message -
From: meadowlark77 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Date: Sunday, 29 December 2013 3.02 am
Subject: Re: New iPad

>
>
> It's fantastic! Thinking of it at some point.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
> 
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
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> From: "beChris H" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11.04 AM
> Subject: Re: New iPad
> 
> 
> Hi Brenda
> please do, smile.
> 
> Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris
> 
> On 28/12/2013 17.00, meadowlark77 wrote:
> > That sounds like an awesome iPad. Phew! Alright, then! Just had to enjoy 
> > the
> > excitement with ya!
> > "still
> > Take care,
> >
> > Brenda
> >
> > mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
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> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
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> > Subject: New iPad
> >
> >
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> > well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first tablet,
> > iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since did not
> > get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i chose
> > silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i can
> > store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, should
> > be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, thanks.
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re: New iPad

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 Hi Chris
 If you've used an iPhone, which I know you have, you'll have no 
trouble adapting to the iPan Mini.  The procedures for using it 
with VO are very much the same.  I personally really like the new 
Mini, although I cannot currently justify the upgrade, as my 3rd 
generation iPad still works very well.


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 Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss:  
Advice On Accessible Information Technologies And Braille 
Transcription Services.



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From: Chris H well i've bit the bullet and placed my order for my very first 
tablet,
iPad mini with Retina Display, this is a treat for myself since 
did not
get one for the holidays, also as they say new year new start, i 
chose
silver for colour and a wopping 128 gb for capacity, this is so i 
can
store my ever expanding music collection and other data on there, 
should
be fantastic! Please be gentle as new to tablet computing, 
thanks.

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Re: New iPad

[Chris H]

Hi
thanks, yes i know what you mean, if you have an iPad already then 
probably not worth the upgrade, as for me it's my first iPad as quoted 
in the original thread.


Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 30/12/2013 00:08, Gordon Smith wrote:

  Hi Chris
  If you've used an iPhone, which I know you have, you'll have no
trouble adapting to the iPan Mini.  The procedures for using it with VO
are very much the same.  I personally really like the new Mini, although
I cannot currently justify the upgrade, as my 3rd generation iPad still
works very well.

  Kind Regards
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  Information Technology Accessibility consultant
  Providing Support For Young People Living With Sight Loss: Advice On
Accessible Information Technologies And Braille Transcription Services.


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Bookmarks on iPad

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am setting up an iPad for a friend. I am familiar with the iPhone but not the 
iPad. 

the iPad has a bookmark in Safari which gives access to the iPad User Guide. I 
have created a Books folder on the iPad home screen containing ibooks. I would 
like to move the Safari bookmark for the iPad User Guide into my Books folder 
so that my friend sees it just like another book. Is that possible? 

I can foresee other cases where it would be useful to move selected Safari 
bookmarks into folders on the home screen. Is that possible?

Many thanks. 

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The new iPad.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all, 

What are the new features in the new iPad apart from the retina display? 

Is it worth upgrading from iPad 2? 

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the ipad mini

[william lomas]

hi all ok so the ipad mini is up for preorder on 26 october and 
available november 2nd
does that mean through my mailbox i will get the mini on taht date?
or would ia hve to wait weeks here in the UK to get it?
also does anyone know is it only LTE i.e. 4g or 3g as well?
only the wifi model is up for preorder at this time 
sixteen gig is 329

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Re: ipad mini

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Hi Will,
For those that have a mini and have also used an iPad with a full sized screen, 
do you find the screen on the mini easier to navigate?  I currently have an 
iPad 2.  It seems that a mini could be an intriguing consideration for that 
reason.
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hi all i have my ipad mini i like the design seems snappy.
still can't get rid of daniel on my iphone 4s a a premium voice just hope if i 
set to US i get samamtha, though a reset on the phone with ios six did not get 
this result so hope ipad mini does
will

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Re: ipad mini

[Glenn]

How much does the iPad mini cost?
Thanks.
Glenn
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Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:37 PM
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hi all i have my ipad mini i like the design seems snappy.
still can't get rid of daniel on my iphone 4s a a premium voice just hope if 
i set to US i get samamtha, though a reset on the phone with ios six did not 
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Re: ipad mini

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According to CNet I think it's $329. for me though it would be too small. I 
need the screen space for stuff like gb and school stuff. if i were to get an 
iPad that is. lol!

Be blessed.
On Nov 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Glenn  wrote:

> How much does the iPad mini cost?
> Thanks.
> Glenn
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> For those that have a mini and have also used an iPad with a full sized 
> screen, do you find the screen on the mini easier to navigate?  I currently 
> have an iPad 2.  It seems that a mini could be an intriguing consideration 
> for that reason.
> T.J.
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> hi all i have my ipad mini i like the design seems snappy.
> still can't get rid of daniel on my iphone 4s a a premium voice just hope if 
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ipad mini screen

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hi how do others find the screen on the ipad mini. does it feel cheap 
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it does not seem to ahve the same smooth response when tapping and  nd 
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i like the performance though of the mini very responsive at least for me

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iPad Help Required

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Hi all

OK, this one might be a bit of a challenge.  I've been enlisted to assist a 
teacher who has a pupil aged four, with dexterity issues, who she wants to try 
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are not exactly functional as most people would understand it.  Any thoughts 
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iPad mini questions

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Hi All

I'm thinking of getting an iPad mini and I'd like to know, can the external
speaker produce as louder audio as the iPad 2? Also is the overall
performance as good?

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iPad and powerpoint

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Hello everyone,
I have a friend whose interested in purchasing an iPad mini.  But she reads a 
lot of powerpoint presentations for school, and one of her chief purposes for 
getting an iPad would be to read powerpoint presentations.  Is there a way to 
accessibily read powerpoint presentations on the iPad?  I know Key Note is 
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appreciated.
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RE: Latest iPad

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Is this the large iPad or the Mini. Cause the speakers on the mini are a
little bit softer. Also make sure that the voice over volume is set to 100
per cent.

Debbie

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Hi!

My iPad 64GB was delivered earlier on today, so what are we up to now iPad
IV or is it iPad V, I've lost track somewhere .

Anyway I cannot say that I'm suitably impressed with this tablet except for
one thing.

Perhaps I'm dreaming here or perhaps I have to get used to it but I don't
think the internal iPad speaker of this generation is quite as good as that
found on the first generation of iPad I just rid myself of and believe me! I
wouldn't have done that had I been able to update to the latest IOS version
but I couldn't which was very unfortunate.

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Re: Latest iPad

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The larger iPad, didn't want the iPad Mini as the Specs and Processor aren't as 
good, I know its the larger iPad as it has the speaker grill at the bottom of 
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> Is this the large iPad or the Mini. Cause the speakers on the mini are a
> little bit softer. Also make sure that the voice over volume is set to 100
> per cent.
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> Debbie
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> Hi!
> 
> My iPad 64GB was delivered earlier on today, so what are we up to now iPad
> IV or is it iPad V, I've lost track somewhere .
> 
> Anyway I cannot say that I'm suitably impressed with this tablet except for
> one thing.
> 
> Perhaps I'm dreaming here or perhaps I have to get used to it but I don't
> think the internal iPad speaker of this generation is quite as good as that
> found on the first generation of iPad I just rid myself of and believe me! I
> wouldn't have done that had I been able to update to the latest IOS version
> but I couldn't which was very unfortunate.
> 
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> best of my ability .
> 
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Re: iPad mini

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i'd get one for yourself too; if you like media content, podcasts etc. it is a 
great little tablet to use. i don't like the web navigation much now on safari 

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> tablet. Sorry to sneak that in there grin.
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Re: iPad mini

[Chris H]

Speaking of media content I currently use headphones which I plug into 
my laptop for listening to music as I do not like the sound of music, no 
pung intended, using the internal speakers. On the mac it's really good. 
Is it the same on the iPad?


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On 15/11/2013 12:37, William Lomas wrote:

i'd get one for yourself too; if you like media content, podcasts etc. it is a 
great little tablet to use. i don't like the web navigation much now on safari

On 15 Nov 2013, at 12:26, Chris H  wrote:


Hello everyone
just a quick message to say there might be an iPad mini owner in the family at 
Christmas as I'm hoping my half brothers get one for Christmas from our 
parents. Father rung me and asked what one can do with a wifi tablet and tole 
them. I then gave a sort of a hint to consider the iPad or iPad mini for two 
reasons.
1. They have an iPod Touch already so makes sense to get a tablet running on 
the same platform.
2. Since I am a devoted Apple user and helper I will be able to offer help for 
an iPad or iPad mini instead of what they liked the look of; a Samsung tablet. 
Sorry to sneak that in there grin.
Keep you posted as if they do get the mini I am hoping to feel and have a brief 
play with it. Note they are not VoiceOver users but I am.
Any comments welcome.

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Bento for IPad

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

Just bought this and I also saw a Tutor For Bento app, has anyone tried this to 
see if its of any use to those without vision? I suppose at the price I may as 
well buy it and try it myself .


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Re: iPad Trouble

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Jame

Press and hold the sleep/home buttons at the same time for about 10 seconds. 
Then release the sleep button but keep the home button pressed.  Plug the iPad 
into the machine with the home button pressed.  After a few seconds release the 
home button.

iTunes should tell you that it has found an iPad in recovery mode and offer you 
the chance to restore it.

Gordon

On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:41, Jane wrote:

It's stuck in this recovery lop. How do I fix it?

JaneTried to restore my iPad to default settings and got this error:

The iPad “iPad” could not be restored. An unknown error occurred (1).


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Re: iPad Trouble

[Jane]

Hi, Gordon.

I did as you suggested, and I still get the same error. Worse, I can't figure 
out what a (1) means.

Jane




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> Jame
> 
> Press and hold the sleep/home buttons at the same time for about 10 seconds. 
> Then release the sleep button but keep the home button pressed.  Plug the 
> iPad into the machine with the home button pressed.  After a few seconds 
> release the home button.
> 
> iTunes should tell you that it has found an iPad in recovery mode and offer 
> you the chance to restore it.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:41, Jane wrote:
> 
> It's stuck in this recovery lop. How do I fix it?
> 
> JaneTried to restore my iPad to default settings and got this error:
> 
> The iPad “iPad” could not be restored. An unknown error occurred (1).
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Re: iPad Trouble

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Hi Jane

Do you have anybody locally with vision who could tell you what is happening on 
the iPad display?

Gordon

On 13 Oct 2011, at 16:16, Jane wrote:

Hi, Gordon.

I did as you suggested, and I still get the same error. Worse, I can't figure 
out what a (1) means.

Jane




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> Jame
> 
> Press and hold the sleep/home buttons at the same time for about 10 seconds. 
> Then release the sleep button but keep the home button pressed.  Plug the 
> iPad into the machine with the home button pressed.  After a few seconds 
> release the home button.
> 
> iTunes should tell you that it has found an iPad in recovery mode and offer 
> you the chance to restore it.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:41, Jane wrote:
> 
> It's stuck in this recovery lop. How do I fix it?
> 
> JaneTried to restore my iPad to default settings and got this error:
> 
> The iPad “iPad” could not be restored. An unknown error occurred (1).
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iPad is updating!!!

[Jane]

So, I checked the support Communities and did a search for Error (a).  The 
general consensus was to keep trying and it would eventually restore.  Well I'd 
already tried it once today, but I decided, what the heck?  I plugged it in, 
told it to restore, and it is right now restoring my iPad apps. Thank God!

How long will this restore thing take, anyhow, and what *is* this new voice?

Jane


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IPAD tutorials/books

[Niamh]

I now have my Ipad2 and so excited.
It has IOS5 and I need a simple guide, I think there are some e_books and 
tutorials.
So excited I can't find them.
Will have to read them on windows and Jaws for the moment.

Niamh
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iPad 2 question.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hi Gang:

Does a new iPad 2 start speaking out of the box or does it have to be 
configured from iTunes?

thanks gang.

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RE: iPad help

[Matthew C]

Hello Glenn. This is normal behavior. I believe I remember hearing it is
called containers. There is no back button. It just opens the folder you
want under the main settings list. There should be something in the roter
that says containers that can help in switching. I usually just flick into
it like you have been.

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Subject: iPad help

Hi All,
I have been working with a client on using his iPad, a new model, based on 
my use of my iPhone 5 with VoiceOver.
Something strange that I have found while in "settings", is when I open an 
area like "general", and I swipe right-to-left, to move up the screen, I 
cannot find any "back" buttons.  So for example, in general, I should be 
able to swipe back until I hear:
"settings back button"
And that will close out that section and place me in the main settings 
window.
Also, another strange thing I have found is that when I open something like 
general, I have to swipe ahead for the actual general options, it seems to 
have elements of the main window between "general" and any of the items that

are within that area.
So far, the iPad does not seem as easy to use as my iPhone or the iPod.
Glenn

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the new ipad

[william lomas]

hi this article on the new ipad it all speculation at the moment may be 
of interest. you can feel the screen?

http://news.sky.com/home/technology/article/16184131


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Re: new ipad

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So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime market 
is for people with vision. 
What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?  

On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:

>   new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
> all about colors etc
> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint 
> broke, don't fix it
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Re: new ipad

[Gordon Keen]

Also it should be remembered that developers might be able to add functionality 
to existing software because of improved hardware for example the higher 
quality camera might improve o.c.r apps and other scanning software for 
voiceover to work with.

Far to early to rush to judgement imho.

Regards

G

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> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime market 
> is for people with vision. 
> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?  
> 

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Re: new ipad

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   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like this.  
People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for the 
blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.  Thus, the 
bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

 However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the improvements 
to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a vast improvement 
overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the improvements are never 
apparent from the presentation and don't seem to get fully realized until the 
device is being sold and third party developers really start taking advantage 
of its new specs.

 So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have, that 
is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap reactions 
simply from a presentation that was not geared towards accessibility and go 
assuming anything.

Take Care
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> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime market 
> is for people with vision. 
> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?  
> 
> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
> 
>>  new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>> all about colors etc
>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint 
>> broke, don't fix it
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Re: new ipad

[Glenn]

A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a 
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

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   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like this. 
People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for 
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.  Thus, 
the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

 However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the 
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a 
vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the 
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to get 
fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers 
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

 So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have, 
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap 
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards 
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



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> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime 
> market is for people with vision.
> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>
> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>> all about colors etc
>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint 
>> broke, don't fix it
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Re: new ipad

[Geoff Waaler]

And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one 
better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed 
with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application? 
After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?


My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people 
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an 
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access 
technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect 
most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad



A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: "John Panarese" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: new ipad


  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like 
this.

People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks. 
Thus,

the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to 
get

fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:


So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
market is for people with vision.
What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?

On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:


new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
broke, don't fix it


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Re: new ipad

[Glenn]

That is not a big demand!
Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
access to that level of the source code.
There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
never typed on a computer keyboard.
Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?

My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!

Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Panarese" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
>   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
> this.
> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
> Thus,
> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>
> However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
> get
> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>
> So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>
>> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
>> market is for people with vision.
>> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>>
>> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>
>>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>>> all about colors etc
>>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
>>> broke, don't fix it
>>>
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Re: new ipad

[1smart...@cox.net]

If only you could see the look on my face! Although I do know some folks, 
both sighted and blind who could use two-handed instructions on said toilet 
paper.


I absolutely do not want my IOS devices to look like a piece of adaptive 
equipment. My very nice never used beautiful Perkins braille writer has dust 
all over the cover and my Braille keyboard Voice Note has a dead battery and 
is in a drawer somewhere.


Karen

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you 
one better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be 
embossed with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of 
application? After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it 
otherwise?


My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people 
demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an 
indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the 
access technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I 
suspect most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Glenn" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad



A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
Glenn

- Original Message - 
From: "John Panarese" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: new ipad


  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like 
this.

People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks. 
Thus,

the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.

However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is 
a

vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to 
get

fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
really start taking advantage of its new specs.

So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
accessibility and go assuming anything.

Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net



On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:


So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
market is for people with vision.
What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?

On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:


new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
all about colors etc
stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
broke, don't fix it


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Re: new ipad

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Just to correct you here. Yes, Apple does allow it, and yes they do exist, but 
experimentally so. However, the companies haven't made it into a regular 
keyboard such as the ones you can set under Keyboard preferences in Settings, 
which is also possible to do without any particular access to any source code. 
You don't need any low-level access in iOS to do this, so if the company can 
make it a workable solution, it's perfectly able to be worthwhile. I admit it'd 
be interesting to try, but it wouldn't make me faster.

Even so, though, the fact it is a small demand makes Apple less likely to do 
it. Most companies probably wouldn't go for small-demand features, at least, 
not often I'd think.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn wrote:

> That is not a big demand!
> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
> access to that level of the source code.
> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
> never typed on a computer keyboard.
> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Geoff Waaler" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
> 
> 
> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
> 
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
> 
> 
>> A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John Panarese" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>> 
>> 
>>  I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
>> this.
>> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
>> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
>> Thus,
>> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>> 
>>However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
>> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
>> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
>> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
>> get
>> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
>> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>> 
>>So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
>> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
>> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
>> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>> 
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>> 
>>> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
>>> market is for people with vision.
>>> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>>> 
>>> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>> 
>>>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>>>> all about colors etc
>>>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
>>>> broke, don't fix it
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: new ipad

[Sean Murphy]

One thing about the new IPAD. The 4g selling point is an USA mobile (cellular) 
standard. I do not know if it is something available in Europe. I believe it 
use's a 1800 frequency. So countries like Australia cannot use the 4g component.


I wish the hell the Telco industry would standardise mobile technology so 
everyone uses the same frequency. But licences and governments like to screw 
people around.

Sean  
On 09/03/2012, at 6:55 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just to correct you here. Yes, Apple does allow it, and yes they do exist, 
> but experimentally so. However, the companies haven't made it into a regular 
> keyboard such as the ones you can set under Keyboard preferences in Settings, 
> which is also possible to do without any particular access to any source 
> code. You don't need any low-level access in iOS to do this, so if the 
> company can make it a workable solution, it's perfectly able to be 
> worthwhile. I admit it'd be interesting to try, but it wouldn't make me 
> faster.
> 
> Even so, though, the fact it is a small demand makes Apple less likely to do 
> it. Most companies probably wouldn't go for small-demand features, at least, 
> not often I'd think.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn wrote:
> 
>> That is not a big demand!
>> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
>> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow 
>> access to that level of the source code.
>> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have 
>> never typed on a computer keyboard.
>> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I meant 
>> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message - 
>> From: "Geoff Waaler" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>> 
>> 
>> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you one
>> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
>> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of application?
>> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
>> 
>> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
>> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
>> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the access
>> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
>> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Glenn" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>> 
>> 
>>> A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>>> Glenn
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "John Panarese" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
>>> this.
>>> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
>>> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
>>> Thus,
>>> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>>> 
>>>   However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
>>> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is a
>>> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
>>> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
>>> get
>>> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
>>> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>>> 
>>>   So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
>>> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
>>> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
>>> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> John Panarese
>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 

Re: new ipad

[Glenn]

It would not look different, it would be an on-screen keyboard.
Just software.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "1smart...@cox.net" <1smart...@cox.net>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


If only you could see the look on my face! Although I do know some folks,
both sighted and blind who could use two-handed instructions on said toilet
paper.

I absolutely do not want my IOS devices to look like a piece of adaptive
equipment. My very nice never used beautiful Perkins braille writer has dust
all over the cover and my Braille keyboard Voice Note has a dead battery and
is in a drawer somewhere.

Karen

- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you
> one better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be
> embossed with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of
> application? After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it
> otherwise?
>
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the
> access technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I
> suspect most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
>
> Best regards.
> Geoff
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
>>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "John Panarese" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: new ipad
>>
>>
>>   I can tell you how many times I read these knee jerk reactions like
>> this.
>> People seem to foget that the iPad and other devices are not marketed for
>> the blind.  The vast majority of the market share are sighted folks.
>> Thus,
>> the bells and whistles are going to be orientated for that population.
>>
>> However, as pointed out, that does not at all mean that the
>> improvements to the processor and camera won't benefit the blind.  It is
>> a
>> vast improvement overall, and as with any new iDevice, the extent of the
>> improvements are never apparent from the presentation and don't seem to
>> get
>> fully realized until the device is being sold and third party developers
>> really start taking advantage of its new specs.
>>
>> So, if you don't need a new iPad or you are happy with what you have,
>> that is fine.  The new iPad may not be for you.  However, don't make snap
>> reactions simply from a presentation that was not geared towards
>> accessibility and go assuming anything.
>>
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> So, why are you so upset about it. The IPad and all like devices prime
>>> market is for people with vision.
>>> What would have you like to seen in the product specifically for VI's?
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2012, at 7:20 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> new ipad waste money for us what was all that about touch and feel?
>>>> all about colors etc
>>>> stickw tih ipad 2 if you have it lol i would it does the job if it aint
>>>> broke, don't fix it
>>>>
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considering ipad 2

[william lomas]

hi all, 

i am considering instead of an ipod touch, getting an ipad 2 for all of my IOS 
aps as use android for phone now. 
do people find the battery on an ipad will last me a lot longer?
don't need the ipad 3 as it only display that makes difference may as wellg et 
refurbished ipad 2

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recording on ipad

[william lomas]

hi all if i wish to record an audio source directly in to my 
ipad what software can i use on the ipad to do this without activating the ipad 
microphone and picking up myself moving around?
thanks, will

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basics of ipad

[william lomas]

hi to all,

I got the chance today to look at my family members ipad 2. i must say i am 
lost :)
i guess it is because i am so used to the iphone screen and how limited ones 
hand movements can be so I have a few questions please
1. when ins settings and i click a category it seems that everything is shown. 
for example on iphone when i clicked general accessibility i would then only 
see the accessibility settings, whereas on an ipad it seems as though all of 
settings are still displayed is this right?
2. what are all the different sounds?
i know my gestures but am confused. how do we know where things are on the 
screen now as it is so big?
3. what are "containers"?
i hope someone can help me before i purchase an ipad but it seems as though 
given my previous misconceptions that an ipad let's you"feel" the layout of the 
screen as my dad would see it as it were

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ordering my ipad

[william lomas]

hi all, 

do people find the ipad 2 performance of a good quality with voiceover?
i can get a refurbished apple certified ipad 2 here in the UK 32 gig wifi only 
for 359 gbp, saving 120 gbp on an ipad 3 equivalent, apart from the screen and 
dictation what really would i need it for?
to pay 120 pounds extra for the screen that i can't see anyway and i hear more 
ram, do people feel the ipad 3 is worth it? or does the 2nd generation suit us 
as blind users fine?
interested in opinions?

Also I assume apple certified would be as new doul it? after having  passed 
stringent tests?

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have the ipad

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hi all i  have  the ipad, but as mys stepdad  thought it was xmas all 
over again :) he thought to help me set it up. he clicked "new ipad" and when i 
signed in  with  ID from apple does this mean i have  none of my icloud data?
all this will take some getting used to now. do people find it easier to use in 
portrait or landscape?

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initial comments ipad

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hi all, i have restored now from an iphone icloud backup i have a few 
comments please. i note that the keyboard only takes up the very bottom of the 
screen in portrait mode is this correct?
thought th keyboard  would be bigger?
like the speed it is really quick as said before just need to get used to 
screen layouts the new sounds confuse me a little


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panes in ipad

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hi all, from reading the take control ipad book 
it seems that a lot of the work is carried out in Windows or "panes" as theya 
re known. 
1. how does a voiceover user know they are int he pane relating to the area 
they just clicked in to?
2. how can i move between panes?
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facebook on ipad

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hi all do people use facely hd or something else on an ipad?
when u se facely hd i keep getting thrown back to the search box when going 
through my friends information on the home tab

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iPad Third Generation

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello everybody

Is there anybody on list who previously owned an iPad 1 and has now upgraded to 
an iPad 2 or iPad 3? I'm asking because we're planning to upgrade and I want to 
know that it's worth while. I'm given to understand that 4G mobile connectivity 
is only supported in the US and Canada. if that's true, then is there any other 
noticeable advantage?

We're thinking of getting the reciprocal model to that which we have now; a 4G 
+ WiFi model, 64GB storage. So if anybody has experience I'd appreciate 
comment. I can only think of 1 good reason at the moment to upgrade, and I 
cannot discuss that. But if there are others I'd like to know what they may be.

Thank you.



Lynne

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hi Lynne,

If you bought a 4G+Wi-Fi iPad third generation, then it has built-in GPS and 
compass, etc. This is true whether or not you ever activate a data plan. If you 
bought a Wi-Fi only iPad, then you don't have GPS.  And I've discovered that 
the Sendero LookAround app will work with this iPad, even though it did not 
with the first generation iPad.  (The web page claims that the app won't work 
with any iPod Touch, and that it is not "iPad optimized".)

Incidentally, I believe that the support of iOS 6 on the iPhone 3GS and not on 
the first generation iPad probably has to do with the expanded plans for 
interactive textbook use on the iPad.  This is only a guess, but the processor 
on the first generation iPad is probably not up to handling extensive 
interaction with large format graphics.  This could be the difference between 
why the iPhone 3GS might still be supported, but perhaps at a reduced level, 
but the first generation iPad not under iOS 6.  I'm not sure that all these 
interactive textbook functions can be supported on the smaller screens.  The 
main reason for the push in using the iPad in classrooms and for teaching is 
that it is capable of this kind of flexible use.  While I may not be a medical 
student who has to study anatomical diagrams in their textbooks, I can 
understand why textbook publishers are going to embrace the iPad platform.  If 
the iPad can accommodate all your textbook requirements, and the iPhone is 
 better suited to pure text content, which are you going to develop for?  It's 
simpler to provide the texts with accessible image descriptions on the iPad 
than to only release a fraction of your books for the iPhone.

Again, just my thoughts and speculation. YMMV.

Cheers,

Esther 


On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> Does anybody happen to know whether the iPad third generation has GPS? I 
> would doubt it, and could well understand the reasons why it wouldn't. Just 
> thought I'd ask.
> 
> Lynne
> 

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Re: iPad & GPS

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Esther

On 20 Jun 2012, at 19:00, Esther  wrote:

• If you bought a 4G+Wi-Fi iPad third generation, then it has built-in GPS and 
compass, etc. This is true whether or not you ever activate a data plan. If you 
bought a Wi-Fi only iPad, then you don't have GPS.  And I've discovered that 
the Sendero LookAround app will work with this iPad, even though it did not 
with the first generation iPad.  (The web page claims that the app won't work 
with any iPod Touch, and that it is not "iPad optimized".)

Thank you; this is a pleasant surprise to me. I did buy Gordon a 
top-of-the-range iPad, 64GB storage and cellular communications; although 
apparently 4G is not yet supported in Europe I am told. That said, I'm not so 
sure about that because judging by the speed of data transfer we're getting on 
the iPhone 4S and iPad 3rd generation, it is infinitely faster than the older 
iPad and Gordon's former iPhone 3GS.

• Incidentally, I believe that the support of iOS 6 on the iPhone 3GS and not 
on the first generation iPad probably has to do with the expanded plans for 
interactive textbook use on the iPad.  This is only a guess, but the processor 
on the first generation iPad is probably not up to handling extensive 
interaction with large format graphics.  This could be the difference between 
why the iPhone 3GS might still be supported, but perhaps at a reduced level, 
but the first generation iPad not under iOS 6.  I'm not sure that all these 
interactive textbook functions can be supported on the smaller screens.  The 
main reason for the push in using the iPad in classrooms and for teaching is 
that it is capable of this kind of flexible use.  While I may not be a medical 
student who has to study anatomical diagrams in their textbooks, I can 
understand why textbook publishers are going to embrace the iPad platform.  If 
the iPad can accommodate all your textbook requirements, and the iPhone is 
better suited to pure text content, which are you going to develop for?  It's 
simpler to provide the texts with accessible image descriptions on the iPad 
than to only release a fraction of your books for the iPhone.

That is a very workable hypothesis I think. There must be a reason; and I 
believe that on the iPad 3rd generation both of the cores of the A5 dual core 
processor are enabled. On the Apple TV, for instance, I gather that is not the 
case. In fact the only differences between 2nd and 3rd generation Apple TV are, 
so I am told, that the 3G has 512MB of RAM whereas the 2nd has 256MB. This is 
to support the HD video compatibility only. That's what I'm told but it's not 
sufficient reason for us personally to upgrade since I believe our 2nd 
generation model will stay upgradable for a while yet. :)

Lynne

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Lynne,

The other thing that you might enjoy about the third generation iPad is its 
camera: the camera on the iPad is as good as the one on the iPhone 4.  (Note 
that the iPhone 4S has higher resolution, but the iPhone 4 camera is pretty 
good).  

Cheers,

Esther
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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Esther

On 20 Jun 2012, at 20:03, Esther  wrote:

• The other thing that you might enjoy about the third generation iPad is its 
camera: the camera on the iPad is as good as the one on the iPhone 4.  (Note 
that the iPhone 4S has higher resolution, but the iPhone 4 camera is pretty 
good).  

yes, I've already had a play with that and some of the pictures it has taken 
are quite stunning in terms of quality and resolution. I'm still trying to find 
out which app I need to record video on the iPad. Hopefully, (and Gordon thinks 
it will be), the iPad is able to record audio and video at the same time.

Thanks as always for your input.

Lynne

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hi Lynne,

• yes, I've already had a play with that and some of the pictures it has taken 
are quite stunning in terms of quality and resolution. I'm still trying to find 
out which app I need to record video on the iPad. Hopefully, (and Gordon thinks 
it will be), the iPad is able to record audio and video at the same time.

I think that you just use the camera app on the iPad to record video.  There 
should be a button in the bottom right corner to switch the mode between photo 
and video.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
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Re: iPad & GPS

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Esther

May I first say a big thank you for bullet listing your quoted text; it makes a 
world of difference to somebody like me with vision.

On 20 Jun 2012, at 20:29, Esther  wrote:

• I think that you just use the camera app on the iPad to record video.  There 
should be a button in the bottom right corner to switch the mode between photo 
and video.

Ah, thank you very much. I was thinking along the lines of iMovie or something 
like that. I will have a proper play with that application.

Many thanks as always.

Lynne

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Lynne,

• Ah, thank you very much. I was thinking along the lines of iMovie or 
something like that. I will have a proper play with that application.

If you want to use editing functions on the videos you take, then you can 
certainly get iMovie for your iPad.  I haven't used this myself, but there is 
Apple's documentation page on iMovie for iOS:

http://www.apple.com/support/ios/imovie/

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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Re: iPad & GPS

[Glenn]

The camera resolution of the iPhone 4 is not that good for OCR.
It is an 5MP camera, but not all the power of the camera is released to 
developers for use with the OCR resolution.
It is for this reason that I will not even get the 4S, as I will wait for 
the iPhone 5 , as maybe it will have better than the 4S, as the 4S is 8MP, I 
suspect that not all the resolution is there for apps as well.
I think Apple would do well to put an even higher MP camera on the iPad as 
well.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: iPad & GPS


Hello Lynne,

The other thing that you might enjoy about the third generation iPad is its 
camera: the camera on the iPad is as good as the one on the iPhone 4.  (Note 
that the iPhone 4S has higher resolution, but the iPhone 4 camera is pretty 
good).

Cheers,

Esther
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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Esther

On 20 Jun 2012, at 22:32, Esther  wrote:

• If you want to use editing functions on the videos you take, then you can 
certainly get iMovie for your iPad.  I haven't used this myself, but there is 
Apple's documentation page on iMovie for iOS:

http://www.apple.com/support/ios/imovie/

It kind of looks like iMovie for iOS is inaccessible. Although I can use it 
fine, Gordon wouldn't be able too; which is a pity. That's the case with iMovie 
on Mac OS X I believe, so we may need to be able to transfer the video content 
from device to device in order to edit it. But I will certainly report back to 
the list and let everybody know how this goes. I totally understand that the 
majority of people here wouldn't be interested in anything inaccessible. But 
there are some members who do have some vision who may be interested.

Again, many thanks.

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Glenn

On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:36, Glenn  wrote:

• The camera resolution of the iPhone 4 is not that good for OCR.
It is an 5MP camera, but not all the power of the camera is released to 
developers for use with the OCR resolution.
It is for this reason that I will not even get the 4S, as I will wait for 
the iPhone 5 , as maybe it will have better than the 4S, as the 4S is 8MP, I 
suspect that not all the resolution is there for apps as well.
I think Apple would do well to put an even higher MP camera on the iPad as 
well.

There may well be technical reasons for the design philosophy which went into 
both the iPhone 4/4S and the iPad 3. Personally, I look at it this way; both 
are mobile devices. It's not reasonable to expect MMS messages to have 
horrendously high attachments. If one requires super-high resolution video, 
it's possible to buy the iPad Camera Connection kit which will allow you to 
connect the webcam of your choice.

Therefore, I really don't think these issues are show-stopping issues, although 
yes I do agree that the option would be nice. The audio on the iPhone 4S is 
pretty good given the size of the device. And although I haven't yet heard 
music from the iPad 3, I have no reason to believe that the audio there won't 
be good also. Spoken audio I have heard and that is fine.

Lynne

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Glenn,

On 21 Jun 2012, at 01:36, Glenn wrote:

> The camera resolution of the iPhone 4 is not that good for OCR.

I've had excellent results using Prizmo for OCR on my iPhone 4 and so have many 
other people.

Cheers,

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Hello Anne

On 21 Jun 2012, at 06:58, Anne Robertson  wrote:

• I've had excellent results using Prizmo for OCR on my iPhone 4 and so have 
many other people.

Thank you for reminding me; I have been meaning to get hold of this. I will do 
so now!

Lynne

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Re: iPad & GPS

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Hello Glenn,

You wrote:

>> The camera resolution of the iPhone 4 is not that good for OCR.

I'll add my comments to Anne's that I've been successful using Prizmo with my 
iPhone 4 for this purpose.

Cheers,

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Re: iPad & GPS

[Glenn]

It does not compare to the KNFB reader, which has the same resolution as the 
iPhone 4, because of Apple not releasing the full resolution to developers.
In a perfect situation, I think that the iPhone 4 is okay, but give it 
anything challenging, and it is a disappointment, at least, that has been my 
experience.
I have used a KNFB, as I used to own one, and it does much better.
Glenn
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On 21 Jun 2012, at 01:36, Glenn wrote:

> The camera resolution of the iPhone 4 is not that good for OCR.

I've had excellent results using Prizmo for OCR on my iPhone 4 and so have 
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Cheers,

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Take Control of Your iPad; [Was Re: basics of iPad]

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Hello to everybody concerned

Have you considered the book "Take Control of your iPad", which we have 
available? If you are interested please feel free to contact the usual support 
address and we can tell you more.

Lynne

On 12 May 2012, at 14:18, william lomas  wrote:

so it is better to use an ipad in landscape mode?
so holding it sideways not portrait?

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Re: Take Control of Your iPad; [Was Re: basics of iPad]

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lyn i will email the support address but will that help  a VO user? or only 
those who are sighted?

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> Hello to everybody concerned
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> Have you considered the book "Take Control of your iPad", which we have 
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> support address and we can tell you more.
> 
> Lynne
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Re: Take Control of Your iPad; [Was Re: basics of iPad]

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello William

On 12 May 2012, at 15:00, william lomas  wrote:

• lyn i will email the support address but will that help  a VO user? or only 
those who are sighted?

Lots of VoiceOver users use these books. As to the specific, I can't answer 
that because it's entirely an individual thing. But others will confirm I am 
sure that VoiceOver users get a lot out of these books.

Lynne

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Re: Bookmarks on iPad

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you  need  to open  the  page you  want  to use  In this  case the ios user  
guide in Safari then  go  to the  share button  here you need  to swipe till 
you  come  to add bookmark to home screen click on it  and it  will put it  on  
the home  screen  then you  need  to just  drag it into  the  file you  want

On 10 Mar 2014, at 20:24, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> I am setting up an iPad for a friend. I am familiar with the iPhone but not 
> the iPad. 
> 
> the iPad has a bookmark in Safari which gives access to the iPad User Guide. 
> I have created a Books folder on the iPad home screen containing ibooks. I 
> would like to move the Safari bookmark for the iPad User Guide into my Books 
> folder so that my friend sees it just like another book. Is that possible? 
> 
> I can foresee other cases where it would be useful to move selected Safari 
> bookmarks into folders on the home screen. Is that possible?
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
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Dropbox on iPad Mini

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, I think the dropbox app has recently been updated.  I used to be 
able to have the full page open but now there is this left sidebar which is 
giving information about other files in Dropbox.  I have tried tapping on 
the actions button on the bottom right to see if I can get full page but I 
only get an option for thumbnails of all the pages in the article.  Any 
ideas how I can remove this left side bar.  Apologies if sidebar is not the 
correct term for it. Interestingly this is not an issue on the iPod Touch or 
on the iPhone.


Eleanor 


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iBooks on iPad question

[Timothy J. Meloy]

Hi all,
I am using an iPad mini retina display with iBooks. When I go under my 
purchases in iBooks on my iPad it shows that all of my books are downloaded. 
But when I go under the my books tab to choose a book to read voiceover says 
that there is an empty list. So I can't see any of the books that I have 
apparently already downloaded onto my iPad. Any suggestions?
Thank u,
TJ



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>> El 19/10/2014, a las 20:36, Anne Robertson  escribió:
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’ve installed Yosemite as I heard good things about it, and I got the iWork 
>> updates. Unfortunately, in Pages, the menu buttons to the right of the 
>> Paragraph styles is no longer accessible using VoiceOver. We now have to use 
>> the mouse or Mouse keys to get to it and click it. Fortunately, no counting 
>> is required as the word “Menu” is spoken if you have “Speak item under 
>> mouse” set with a delay of zero.
>> 
>> I’ve reported this regression to Apple.
>> 
>> I’ve also reported the fact that the VO-F4-F4 problem hasn’t been fixed yet. 
>> What’s more, they’ve taken the command out of the commands menus, but VO-k 
>> still recognises it and it still reports its fictitious coordinates.
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Re: The new iPad.

[william lomas]

you get dictation and siri when IOS six comes out
it is faster i believe, too but i think that's it
if the 2 is working it depends what yu'd get from a three

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Re: The new iPad.

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I doubt very much you'd notice much difference to be honest.  I'm not going to 
talk about iOS6 because Apple discourages speculation.  But your iPad 2 should 
be future-proof for a while yet.  It's only the original iPad which is being 
effectively dropped.  Of course, technical support and warranty services won't 
be affected if, for example, you have an AppleCare plan which includes your 
original iPad.

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Re: The new iPad.

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Hello Sadam

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• What are the new features in the new iPad apart from the retina display? 

I  believe that the only difference between iPad 2 and iPad 3 is the resolution 
of the camera. I think they both have the same technical specifications other 
than that.

I am aware that some on list have replied to you with reference to iOS6. 
However, I won't do that because it's against Apple's code of conduct to 
speculate; regardless of the rumour mill. Yes, I know that possibly there may 
be contributions to that rumour mill from Apple themselves and yes, I do agree 
that sometimes their weird logic and double standards are difficult to fathom.. 
Nevertheless, you'll find that it is future-proof so in all honesty my advice 
would be stick with what you have for the time being.

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