Re: Merging duplicate contacts in Address Book

[David Hole]

Thanks so very much guys.
This helped a lot!
Having many devices in sync isn't that easy.
Btw, can one find duplicate events in iCal?
Kind regards David
A-Pro Studio skrev:
> Hi David,
> 
> There is both a "Look for Duplicates" and "Merge Selected Cards"  
> option under the Card menu in Address book, that you might want to  
> play around with. Merge Selected Cards works just fine, but you need  
> to select each couple of cards that you would like to merge. Also, if  
> you have a backup of both the data on Address Book and your N82 from  
> right before you did the merge, you might do it again and make sure  
> Address Book merges the data from your sources. Most likely, you will  
> not get duplicates this way, as long as the names are all written the  
> same way.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Take care,
> John André
> 
> 
> On 23. juli. 2009, at 20.20, David Hole wrote:
> 
>> Hello folks.
>> Have anyone of you found an application that merges duplicate contacts
>> in Address Book on the Mac?
>> Hope someone have...My addressbook is full of duplicates that I have  
>> to
>> remove :(
>> They were added when I synced my Nokia N82 with the Mac. :(
>>
>> Kind regards David
>>
> 
> 
> > 


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Re: Merging duplicate contacts in Address Book

[A-Pro Studio]

Hi David,

Everything is possible on the Mac, you know ;-) take a look here:

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=ical+duplicate+event&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Have a great weekend!

John André


On 24. juli. 2009, at 09.59, David Hole wrote:

>
> Thanks so very much guys.
> This helped a lot!
> Having many devices in sync isn't that easy.
> Btw, can one find duplicate events in iCal?
> Kind regards David
> A-Pro Studio skrev:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> There is both a "Look for Duplicates" and "Merge Selected Cards"
>> option under the Card menu in Address book, that you might want to
>> play around with. Merge Selected Cards works just fine, but you need
>> to select each couple of cards that you would like to merge. Also, if
>> you have a backup of both the data on Address Book and your N82 from
>> right before you did the merge, you might do it again and make sure
>> Address Book merges the data from your sources. Most likely, you will
>> not get duplicates this way, as long as the names are all written the
>> same way.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Take care,
>> John André
>>
>>
>> On 23. juli. 2009, at 20.20, David Hole wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks.
>>> Have anyone of you found an application that merges duplicate  
>>> contacts
>>> in Address Book on the Mac?
>>> Hope someone have...My addressbook is full of duplicates that I have
>>> to
>>> remove :(
>>> They were added when I synced my Nokia N82 with the Mac. :(
>>>
>>> Kind regards David
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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RE: Setting up three or four-way conversations with the Mac and Skype

[Michael Busboom]

Darcy, thanks a million! I can't believe that I didn't have the foresight to
try something like that.  It worked beautifully and for that I am grateful
to you.

 

I believe that in many situations, we automatically assume that something
can't be done when, in all actuality, there is a simple solution.  Thanks so
much once again!

 

Mike

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Burnard
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 20:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up three or four-way conversations with the Mac and
Skype

 

Hi Michael.  When recording podcasts, most of us do infact use skype.  It's
actually really easy to set up a conference.  When you're talking to
someone, switch back to the main skype window.  Find the third person of
your conference in your contacts list, do a VO shift M on their name to
bring up a context menu, and select add to conference.

Repeat this to add additional people.

I don't know if there's a limit to how many people you can have, or if it's
a matter of bandwidth.  The largest conference I've been in had 6
participants.

HTH

Darcy

 

On 22-Jul-09, at 7:44 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:





Hello listers,

 

In a few days, I will need to start planning an important blindness-related
conference that will take place here in Vienna, Austria next year.  We have
decided to use Skype as our communications platform as we plan the event.  I
know that people like Josh, Cara and the screenless switchers use some sort
of voice chat client when they do their roundtable discussions, so I know
that what I wish to do can be accomplished in some way.

 

My preference would be to use Skype but if it doesn't work or the Skype
conferencing features can't be accessed through Voice Over, then I am open
to any alternatives.  Ideally, however, setting this up on Skype would be
best since all of us already have this program.

 

My sincerest appreciation in advance for any and all input on this subject,

 

Mike





 



 


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Where might i find a plugin for isync?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi good people.
I'm about to sell my Nokia E66 and want to sync my contacts and such  
to my Mac so that i can get it onto my Iphone when i finally get it. I  
tried just using isync with my phone but that didn't work so now i  
wonder if anyone knows about a plugin for syncing the Nokia E66 via  
Isync and where i might obtain it. If anyone could provide a direct  
link to the plugin i would be greatful since the nokia site is very  
messy to say the least.
Thankful for any and all help.
/Krister

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audio high jack and effects

[Marie Howarth]

I was wondering if anyone is using the audio high jack pro with Voice  
over and if there is a way to add mutiple affects to an audio stream.  
I can click on the scroll area but as soon as I do it again, the  
pervious affect goes away. am I doing something wrong with voice over  
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is os x 64-bit?

[a radix]

Hello, Well the question is as the title says. I was wondering this since they 
all use core 2 duos in all the macs.
Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: is os x 64-bit?

[ben mustill-rose]

Since it can see and utilise over 4 gb of ram, i would guess the answer is yes.

On 24/07/2009, a radix  wrote:
> Hello, Well the question is as the title says. I was wondering this since
> they all use core 2 duos in all the macs.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> >
>


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Re: is os x 64-bit?

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, the way I understood it, OS leppard is only partly 64 bit, the  
drivers and some of the software that ships with it being 32 bit and  
running in compadibility mode.  Everything is supposed to be true 64  
bit in Snowleppard.  I could be way off base, but I'm pretty sure  
that's what I read right around the time we had all the furror over  
screen readers for windows not supporting 64 bit opperating systems.

Best,

erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com

On 24-Jul-09, at 7:40 AM, a radix wrote:

> Hello, Well the question is as the title says. I was wondering this  
> since they all use core 2 duos in all the macs.
> Greetings, Anouk,
>
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Re: Question about downloading audio files linked from web pages in safari

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

I tried the suggestions in this message for forcing an mp3 to download  
and found on my system that the only one that works is to press and  
hold option and pressing enter while sitting on the link. This works  
like a charm.

Thanks Esther.

Robert Carter
On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi James,
>
> You asked:
>
>> Is there a way to configure things so that when you click on a link  
>> on
>> a page such as blindcooltech.com or serotalk.com as examples that  
>> have
>> links that are http://www and have an mp3 file at the end of the link
>> so that it will download the mp3 instead of just launching into
>> quicktime or whatever it is that just streams and plays it at that
>> point?
>
> You can force any linked file to download in Safari instead of being  
> displayed (in the case of PDF files) or played (in the case of MP3  
> files) by having your mouse cursor routed to the link and issuing an  
> Option-Click.  If you're on a link, use VO-Command-F5 to route your  
> mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor, if you don't have the box for  
> "Mouse cursor tracks VoiceOver cursor" checked in your VoiceOver  
> Utility Navigation settings.  Then, press the option key and click  
> with either the trackpad (on a laptop) or by pressing a mouse button  
> (with an attached mouse).  If you have a numeric keypad with  
> Leopard's NumPad Commander turned on, you can do the click by  
> pressing the "5" key on the numeric keypad while pressing the option  
> key.  If you want to force a download after clicking a linked mp3 or  
> PDF file that loaded into the Safari browser, press Command-L to go  
> to the Address bar, then press option followed by the enter (or  
> carriage return) key.  That action effectively issues an Option- 
> Click to download these linked files that loaded into the browser.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> >


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Re: Question about downloading audio files linked from web pages in safari

[Peggy Fleischer]

I always use the option enter method. It works best for me and has  
never failed me.

Peggy Fleischer
peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net

Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to  
present you
faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty,  
Dominion
and power, Both now and forever. Amen.


On Jul 24, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Robert Carter wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I tried the suggestions in this message for forcing an mp3 to download
> and found on my system that the only one that works is to press and
> hold option and pressing enter while sitting on the link. This works
> like a charm.
>
> Thanks Esther.
>
> Robert Carter
> On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Esther wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> You asked:
>>
>>> Is there a way to configure things so that when you click on a link
>>> on
>>> a page such as blindcooltech.com or serotalk.com as examples that
>>> have
>>> links that are http://www and have an mp3 file at the end of the  
>>> link
>>> so that it will download the mp3 instead of just launching into
>>> quicktime or whatever it is that just streams and plays it at that
>>> point?
>>
>> You can force any linked file to download in Safari instead of being
>> displayed (in the case of PDF files) or played (in the case of MP3
>> files) by having your mouse cursor routed to the link and issuing an
>> Option-Click.  If you're on a link, use VO-Command-F5 to route your
>> mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor, if you don't have the box for
>> "Mouse cursor tracks VoiceOver cursor" checked in your VoiceOver
>> Utility Navigation settings.  Then, press the option key and click
>> with either the trackpad (on a laptop) or by pressing a mouse button
>> (with an attached mouse).  If you have a numeric keypad with
>> Leopard's NumPad Commander turned on, you can do the click by
>> pressing the "5" key on the numeric keypad while pressing the option
>> key.  If you want to force a download after clicking a linked mp3 or
>> PDF file that loaded into the Safari browser, press Command-L to go
>> to the Address bar, then press option followed by the enter (or
>> carriage return) key.  That action effectively issues an Option-
>> Click to download these linked files that loaded into the browser.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Question about downloading audio files linked from web pages in safari

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I did a little digging and I believe I found the solution.  Open  
system preferences.
Go to Quicktime tab. (let me know if you need help navigating to this.)

Under the "Advanced" tab there is a section on plugin preferences. In  
there is a "MIME types" button. Hit that button.

There is  table. You will have to navigate down to "Audio - Audio only  
file formats Expand this and uncheck any formats you want to download  
instead of play.

Jon

On Jul 23, 2009, at 9:15 PM, James Mannion wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Is there a way to configure things so that when you click on a link on
> a page such as blindcooltech.com or serotalk.com as examples that have
> links that are http://www and have an mp3 file at the end of the link
> so that it will download the mp3 instead of just launching into
> quicktime or whatever it is that just streams and plays it at that
> point?  Some of them you can do the control options shift m and pick
> the download file from the menu and that is fine, but sometimes when
> you do that it does not give you that specific of an option.  To
> explain what I am talking about when I go to exactly those same links
> on the windows side it says do you want to open or save this file.
> Now I want to prefer to use the mac more and more til I don't care
> about the PC practically, but I really wonder if I can configure it to
> give me that option with those links to download the file without
> having to hope there is and go to some other page such as the podcast
> page just to do it.  A little thing, but it is really pissing me off
> actually when it is an issue.  Ok, of course I keep it in perspective,
> but you know it is annoying.  Is it something in quicktime or ITunes
> or safari that you configure differently if it is possible?  I looked
> through the options in safari and didn't find anything.  I haven't
> looked yet through ITunes honestly, but thought maybe somebody here
> already "invented the wheel" and knows the simple answer.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> >


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Re: Question about downloading audio files linked from web pages in safari

[Bob Hill]

Another way to do this with the blindcooltech site is when you get to  
a header, interact with it by pressing vo-shift-downarrow, then you  
will hear the name of the link.
Then I press vo-shift-m to bring up a context menu, and there will be  
an item to download the link.

That's what's great about the Mac, there are many ways to accomplish  
things.

Bob Hill

On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:

>
> I always use the option enter method. It works best for me and has
> never failed me.
>
> Peggy Fleischer
> peggyfleisc...@bellsouth.net
>
> Jude 1:24  Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to
> present you
> faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
> 1:25  To God our Savior, Who alone is wise, Be glory and majesty,
> Dominion
> and power, Both now and forever. Amen.
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Robert Carter wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried the suggestions in this message for forcing an mp3 to  
>> download
>> and found on my system that the only one that works is to press and
>> hold option and pressing enter while sitting on the link. This works
>> like a charm.
>>
>> Thanks Esther.
>>
>> Robert Carter
>> On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Esther wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi James,
>>>
>>> You asked:
>>>
 Is there a way to configure things so that when you click on a link
 on
 a page such as blindcooltech.com or serotalk.com as examples that
 have
 links that are http://www and have an mp3 file at the end of the
 link
 so that it will download the mp3 instead of just launching into
 quicktime or whatever it is that just streams and plays it at that
 point?
>>>
>>> You can force any linked file to download in Safari instead of being
>>> displayed (in the case of PDF files) or played (in the case of MP3
>>> files) by having your mouse cursor routed to the link and issuing an
>>> Option-Click.  If you're on a link, use VO-Command-F5 to route your
>>> mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor, if you don't have the box for
>>> "Mouse cursor tracks VoiceOver cursor" checked in your VoiceOver
>>> Utility Navigation settings.  Then, press the option key and click
>>> with either the trackpad (on a laptop) or by pressing a mouse button
>>> (with an attached mouse).  If you have a numeric keypad with
>>> Leopard's NumPad Commander turned on, you can do the click by
>>> pressing the "5" key on the numeric keypad while pressing the option
>>> key.  If you want to force a download after clicking a linked mp3 or
>>> PDF file that loaded into the Safari browser, press Command-L to go
>>> to the Address bar, then press option followed by the enter (or
>>> carriage return) key.  That action effectively issues an Option-
>>> Click to download these linked files that loaded into the browser.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Logic 9

[David Hole]

Hello folks!
Does anyone of you know if Logic 9 is out now?
If so, have someone tested it?
If not, have anyone here been in contact with Apple about the 
accessibility part?

Regards David

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selecting text you are interacting with

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Is there any way to select text you are interacting with, such as on a  
web page or in an e-mail message? I know I can click on links in e- 
mail messages or add addresses to address books; I just wondered about  
grabbing information to use in other programs.

Thanks,
Anna


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tables on websites

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in  
tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.  
There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I  
can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I  
can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such  
tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?

Thanks,
Anna


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Re: tables on websites

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

This is one place where "group navigation" really works well. Even if  
you use "dom navigation" for most web pages, I would suggest switching  
to group navigation for this site. (too bad there is not a way to  
customize this on a per a site basis).

Jon

On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in
> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
> >


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Re: tables on websites

[Barry Hadder]

Hi,

Usually you can just put the VO cursor on the column you want to read  
and VO-down will read the next item in the column.  That being said,  
VO will recognize tables in snow leopard.

On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in
> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
> >


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Re: Where might i find a plugin for isync?

[Abdul Kamara]

Greetings,

I sympathize...  Much of the site appears to be festooned with flash  
animation-- which they do provide the option of deactivating...

Here is the page you are looking for...
http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-software/product-support/isync/compatibility-and-download

When you get to the page, use the item chooser menu (VO-Key + I) and  
type E66.  It will narrow down to the only entry on that page.  Select  
it, and move the VO cursor to the right which should read "Download".   
It will not read as a link, but don't be fooled, it is.

On the page that follows, select the "Accept and Start Download"  
link-- as I'm certain you would have no issue with the software  
license agreement.  The linkbutton should be about the third or forth  
object from the start of the page..

I hope this helps.

Best,

Abdul



On 24 Jul 2009, at 12:31, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

>
> Hi good people.
> I'm about to sell my Nokia E66 and want to sync my contacts and such
> to my Mac so that i can get it onto my Iphone when i finally get it. I
> tried just using isync with my phone but that didn't work so now i
> wonder if anyone knows about a plugin for syncing the Nokia E66 via
> Isync and where i might obtain it. If anyone could provide a direct
> link to the plugin i would be greatful since the nokia site is very
> messy to say the least.
> Thankful for any and all help.
> /Krister
>
> >


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Re: selecting text you are interacting with

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Anna, what you'll need to do to select text on web pages, is  
interact with it of course, and then hit VO-enter to turn selection  
on, and then VO arrow around, until you've heard the end of whatever  
it is you want selected, hit VO-enter again  to turn selection off,  
and then you can take that text,hit command-c to copy it, and paaste  
it wherever you want, be it into an email, text edit document, pages  
document, or whatever it may be, with command-v
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> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to select text you are interacting with, such as on a
> web page or in an e-mail message? I know I can click on links in e-
> mail messages or add addresses to address books; I just wondered about
> grabbing information to use in other programs.
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
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Re: tables on websites

[Barry Hadder]

I should have mentioned that in my prior post.  I didn't think about  
it as I always have group turned on.

What I said above about reading individual columns only works when  
group is on.


On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> This is one place where "group navigation" really works well. Even if
> you use "dom navigation" for most web pages, I would suggest switching
> to group navigation for this site. (too bad there is not a way to
> customize this on a per a site basis).
>
> Jon
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information  
>> in
>> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
>> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
>> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
>> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
>> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: selecting text you are interacting with

[Mark Baxter]

Selecting text from a web page doesn't seem to work this way, however,  
if in an E-mail, pressing VO Enter turns on selecting, and pressing it  
again toggles it of.  This works similar to the "block," function in  
older word processors like wp5.1.  Remember you still have to copy in  
order to get the selected text to the clipboard.


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Re: Logic 9

[A-Pro Studio]

Hello again David,

Logic 9 is being sent out now, and I will be able to report more on VO  
compatibility next week. The update from V8 is NOK 1.790,- or $199.
Thanks,
John André


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>
> Hello folks!
> Does anyone of you know if Logic 9 is out now?
> If so, have someone tested it?
> If not, have anyone here been in contact with Apple about the
> accessibility part?
>
> Regards David
>
> >


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Re: Logic 9

[Pierre Heim]

Hi, Logic 9 (Express/Studio) was presented yesterday. I think the  
English version is already available, e.g. the German localized  
version comes later (4-5 weeks at the moment).

Greetings, Pierre

Am 24.07.2009 um 17:24 schrieb David Hole:

>
> Hello folks!
> Does anyone of you know if Logic 9 is out now?
> If so, have someone tested it?
> If not, have anyone here been in contact with Apple about the
> accessibility part?
>
> Regards David
>
> >
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Re: tables on websites

[erik burggraaf]

What we really need is a key to switch quickly back and fourth between  
the two modes.  People will have been harping on the apple  
accessibility team about this for ages.  I'll be shocked and horrified  
if it isn't implemented in snow leppard.


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On 24-Jul-09, at 11:40 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> This is one place where "group navigation" really works well. Even if
> you use "dom navigation" for most web pages, I would suggest switching
> to group navigation for this site. (too bad there is not a way to
> customize this on a per a site basis).
>
> Jon
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information  
>> in
>> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
>> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
>> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
>> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
>> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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MacBook Pro Speakers

[Keith Bucher]

Hello,

I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.

I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
it.

I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
information.


Keith

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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Chris Polk]

i have the 13 inch mbp, and love it,
when i was upgrading the ram, i found a surprise, there in addition to  
the 2 speakers faceing up, is a small speaker under the bottom facing  
down. i believe this is intended to give a fuller sound.
i didn't notice any differences from the 13 and 15 inch mbps.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
>I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
> inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.
>
>I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
> model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
> model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
> it.
>
>I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
> volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
> MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
> would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
> price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
> the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
> fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
> similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
> information.
>
>
> Keith
>
> >


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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Marshall Scott]

Hi Keith,
I own the new 13 inch MBP and I cannot tell any differench MBP and an  
older 15 inch MBP.  I cannot tell any difference between the volume  
levels of the two machines.  Your second question about quality of the  
sound is too subjective for me to give you an answer.  If you are  
worried about sound queality; I'd use external speakers.
HTMS
Marsh
On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
>I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
> inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.
>
>I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
> model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
> model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
> it.
>
>I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
> volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
> MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
> would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
> price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
> the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
> fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
> similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
> information.
>
>
> Keith
>
> >



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Re: Logic 9

[Slau]

I've received confirmation from Apple that there are no improvements in this 
release of Logic. However, I would strongly encourage anyone interested in 
Logic accessibility to email the following people who are either responsible 
for audio in OS X or on the Logic team:
Xander Soren 
Andreas Dedring 
Bob Hunt 

I've spoken with Bob Hunt who is definitely on the Logic team. Several years 
ago at a trade show, he had indicated that they were working on 
accessibility and we've certainly seen a dramatic improvement from version 7 
to 8 in Logic Studio. Although I'm also frustrated by the news, I'm still 
hopeful that we'll see full accessibility in a future release. If anyone 
does decide to email these people, please remember not to antagonize or 
criticize harshly but instead, express your concerns along with your support 
of Apple's work on the accessibility front for the operating system. What is 
it they say about bees and honey?

Cheers!


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From: "A-Pro Studio" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Logic 9



Hello again David,

Logic 9 is being sent out now, and I will be able to report more on VO
compatibility next week. The update from V8 is NOK 1.790,- or $199.
Thanks,
John André


On 24. juli. 2009, at 17.24, David Hole wrote:

>
> Hello folks!
> Does anyone of you know if Logic 9 is out now?
> If so, have someone tested it?
> If not, have anyone here been in contact with Apple about the
> accessibility part?
>
> Regards David
>
> >




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Re: is os x 64-bit?

[Chris Blouch]

Many parts of osx 10.5 are 64 bit but Snow Leopard completes the job 
making it all 64-bit. I guess when OSX first came out there was a whole 
legacy transition which involved emulators and support for older APIs. 
Each new version moved further away from that such as discontinuing the 
OS9 emulator and now dropping support for non-Intel processors. Note 
that the PowerMac G5 was marketed as the first 64-bit PCs so there are 
other factors besides 64-bit that is driving SnowLeopard to be Intel-only.

CB

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> Hi, the way I understood it, OS leppard is only partly 64 bit, the 
> drivers and some of the software that ships with it being 32 bit and 
> running in compadibility mode.  Everything is supposed to be true 64 
> bit in Snowleppard.  I could be way off base, but I'm pretty sure 
> that's what I read right around the time we had all the furror over 
> screen readers for windows not supporting 64 bit opperating systems.
>
> Best,
>
> erik burggraaf
> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
> Phone: 888-255-5194
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>
> On 24-Jul-09, at 7:40 AM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, Well the question is as the title says. I was wondering this 
>> since they all use core 2 duos in all the macs.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >

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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Abdul Kamara]

Hi Keith,

I agree with much of what has been said on the topic so far...  The  
output seems to be the same and quality is too subjective a thing on  
which to make a definitive claim.

What I can say is there are possibly other considerations you should  
take more onboard, assuming you haven't already.  I don't know about  
you, but there are only a few times I travel without my macbook, and I  
am on the road a lot.  It is my source of entertainment,  
communications and the means through which much of my work is done.   
In my case, size really does matter-- the smaller the better.  Weight  
is a moot issue, as much of it is on my back.

It is possible that you are looking at spending $200 for an additional  
2 inches you may not need, and (if you're as persnikity as I am about  
these things) the 15 inch may agitate some space issues when on the  
road.

If it's simply that you are low vision, and would benefit from a  
larger screen, then get the 15 inch.  Otherwise, less is more.

Best,

Abdul

On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:34, Keith Bucher wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
>I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
> inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.
>
>I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
> model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
> model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
> it.
>
>I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
> volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
> MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
> would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
> price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
> the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
> fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
> similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
> information.
>
>
> Keith
>
> >


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Re: Logic 9

[A-Pro Studio]

Hi Slau,

I fully agree with you, and I will write some nice lines for these  
guys. I ordered Logic Studio 8 when it was launched,even though I knew  
it was not very compatible, and I have just ordered the Logic 9  
upgrade. This might seem to be a silly thing to do, but I think it  
will have some impact both on how well I will know the product when it  
is fully VO compatible, and also show that I am having some trust in  
their efforts to make this VO compatibility thing happen in the near  
future. I know there are several other VO users that have done the  
same thing. Also, just like with GarageBand; the better we know the  
accessible part of the product, the better we are able to give  
constructive feedback on the parts that are not accessible.

Take care,
John André







On 24. juli. 2009, at 19.36, Slau wrote:

>
> I've received confirmation from Apple that there are no improvements  
> in this
> release of Logic. However, I would strongly encourage anyone  
> interested in
> Logic accessibility to email the following people who are either  
> responsible
> for audio in OS X or on the Logic team:
> Xander Soren 
> Andreas Dedring 
> Bob Hunt 
>
> I've spoken with Bob Hunt who is definitely on the Logic team.  
> Several years
> ago at a trade show, he had indicated that they were working on
> accessibility and we've certainly seen a dramatic improvement from  
> version 7
> to 8 in Logic Studio. Although I'm also frustrated by the news, I'm  
> still
> hopeful that we'll see full accessibility in a future release. If  
> anyone
> does decide to email these people, please remember not to antagonize  
> or
> criticize harshly but instead, express your concerns along with your  
> support
> of Apple's work on the accessibility front for the operating system.  
> What is
> it they say about bees and honey?
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "A-Pro Studio" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Logic 9
>
>
>
> Hello again David,
>
> Logic 9 is being sent out now, and I will be able to report more on VO
> compatibility next week. The update from V8 is NOK 1.790,- or $199.
> Thanks,
> John André
>
>
> On 24. juli. 2009, at 17.24, David Hole wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello folks!
>> Does anyone of you know if Logic 9 is out now?
>> If so, have someone tested it?
>> If not, have anyone here been in contact with Apple about the
>> accessibility part?
>>
>> Regards David
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> >


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Re: iTunes tracks out of order was Re: itunes something very annoying

[gene]

Hi try going into the info dialog on the actual alvum, make sure the info 
tab is selected, and then make sure the alvum artest checkbox is checked, 
and then in the alvum artest edit box type in the name of the artest.  I had 
a patsy cline duets alvum where a number of other people dubbed in with her 
and all the songs were out of order in fact, some of them weren't even in 
the alvum because itunes seperated them into there own catigory.  Sometimes 
this works and sometimes it doesn't.  I have the michael jackson's thriller 
remaster edition that has a few extra songs and a lot of enterviews from 
quincy jones and rod temperton and a voice over with vencen price, and some 
of the enterviews and spoken word tracks are out of order and I'm not really 
sure what to do about that but see if this fixes your problem in this case! 
That is so strange why sometimes filling in the alvum artest sometimes fixes 
the problem completely and sometimes it doesn't.  Heck, Even for the 
thriller alvum, even when I put michael jackson as both the alvum artest and 
the song artest some of the spoken tracks were still out of order so I don't 
know.
Gene
- Original Message - 
From: "Jenny Kennedy (Howard)" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: iTunes tracks out of order was Re: itunes something very annoying


>
> Hey,
> This sounds like a problem I have noticed.
> I got Paul Simon's "Still Crazy After All These Years" I had this on
> tape when I was a kid and I knew what songs were meant to be there but
> on the iTunes version if you pull up just that album, track 2 or what
> is meant to be track 2 on the old version is missing but when I search
> that track directly it shows up...  Also have this problem with Ben
> Folds iTunes Orignials.  It shows up twice as one is  all ben folds
> but there is one he did with William Shatner and it shows up apart
> from the rest.
>
> Also can somebody explain why some tracks don't number right?
>
> Okay this is on the same Ben Folds album I was just talking about.
>
> If you all don't know what an iTunes Orignal is. It is a person or
> band commenting on a hand full of songs and explaining how they did
> the song or came up with the shong or whatever.
> Well Ben goes for a track talking then the matching song goes, then
> Ben goes again and then a matching song.
> It goes on like this til near the end.  Then the tracks get all messed
> up and you've got Ben going about songs but the songs don't go, it
> just goes to the next Ben talking track. then a whole glob of songs
> after, the ones he was talking about.  Is rather annoying.
>
> I know what order the tracks are meant to go in by context plus when
> you look it up on the iTunes store it shows the proper order. So what
> gives?
>
>
>
> ###
>
>
>
> Best Wishes
> Jenny Kennedy (Howard)
> blueskyes9112...@gmail.com
> Olathe, Kansas USA
>
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selecting specific tracks in itunes

[gene]

Hi I have a sijmular question, and I know this has been asked before, but 
let's say I want to select a few songs from an alvum but not everything else 
in betwene, How can I do that, it doesn't seem to matter whither I do shift 
up arrow or down arrow it just keeps selecting more stuff and of course it 
doesn't tell you exactly what I've selected but I can't seem to find a way 
to select just the songs I want as well as everything else.
Gene 


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Re: audio high jack and effects

[Darcy Burnard]

Hi Marie.  Unfortunately the effects window in audio hijack pro does  
not work with VoiceOver.  From what I've heard, Rogue Amoeba is  
planning on completely re-writing this aspect of the program, so they  
have no plans to make it accessible as it is now.  I'm not sure when  
the new effects system will be released.
Darcy

On 24-Jul-09, at 7:04 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:

>
> I was wondering if anyone is using the audio high jack pro with Voice
> over and if there is a way to add mutiple affects to an audio stream.
> I can click on the scroll area but as soon as I do it again, the
> pervious affect goes away. am I doing something wrong with voice over
> here?
>
>
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Re: selecting specific tracks in itunes

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

1. Turn off cursor tracking. (VO-shift-F3)
2. Go to first item to select and select it  (VO-Return)
3. Go to additional rows and select with (VO-shift-space)
4. Turn Cursor tracking back on (VO-shift-F3)

You can hear the selected items with vo-shift-F6. I was on the USAJOBS  
web site yesterday picking out local job locations in 3 states, oh boy  
was that fun, but the same principles worked there.

Jon

On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:40 PM, gene wrote:

>
> Hi I have a similar question, and I know this has been asked before,  
> but
> let's say I want to select a few songs from an alvum but not  
> everything else
> in between, How can I do that, it doesn't seem to matter whither I  
> do shift
> up arrow or down arrow it just keeps selecting more stuff and of  
> course it
> doesn't tell you exactly what I've selected but I can't seem to find  
> a way
> to select just the songs I want as well as everything else.
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Re: audio high jack and effects

[Marie Howarth]

thanks for that. using some spare eyes for now then. :)

On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

>
> Hi Marie.  Unfortunately the effects window in audio hijack pro does
> not work with VoiceOver.  From what I've heard, Rogue Amoeba is
> planning on completely re-writing this aspect of the program, so they
> have no plans to make it accessible as it is now.  I'm not sure when
> the new effects system will be released.
> Darcy
>
> On 24-Jul-09, at 7:04 AM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone is using the audio high jack pro with Voice
>> over and if there is a way to add mutiple affects to an audio stream.
>> I can click on the scroll area but as soon as I do it again, the
>> pervious affect goes away. am I doing something wrong with voice over
>> here?
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,  
for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear to  
me what to purchase.

Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?

Thanks,

Robert Carter

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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Scott Howell]

That speaker facing down is a subwoofer believe it or not. Honestly I  
didn't notice a really massive difference in sound. THe 15-inch does  
seem a little louder, but then the speakers might be spaced a bit  
further out and I believe they are more under the keyboard on the 13- 
inch. However, I purchased the 15-inch not for sound, but difference  
in processor performance etc. Btw, can you tell me where the ram is on  
the MBP once you remove the bottom cover? I haven't poked about in a  
laptop much and might just be missing it. I'm pretty sure they are  
generally laid out the same.

THanks,
On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chris Polk wrote:

>
> i have the 13 inch mbp, and love it,
> when i was upgrading the ram, i found a surprise, there in addition to
> the 2 speakers faceing up, is a small speaker under the bottom facing
> down. i believe this is intended to give a fuller sound.
> i didn't notice any differences from the 13 and 15 inch mbps.
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>   I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
>> inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.
>>
>>   I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
>> model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
>> model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
>> it.
>>
>>   I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
>> volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
>> MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
>> would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
>> price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
>> the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
>> fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
>> similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
>> information.
>>
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Chris Polk]

if you remove the screws, and the laptop is upsidedown, the hinges for  
the display towards you, the ram is on the left hand side about 2  
thirds of the way up.
the ram is stacked, so you will only see one chip, the other one is  
below the first.
hope that makes sense.

Chris

On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> That speaker facing down is a subwoofer believe it or not. Honestly I
> didn't notice a really massive difference in sound. THe 15-inch does
> seem a little louder, but then the speakers might be spaced a bit
> further out and I believe they are more under the keyboard on the 13-
> inch. However, I purchased the 15-inch not for sound, but difference
> in processor performance etc. Btw, can you tell me where the ram is on
> the MBP once you remove the bottom cover? I haven't poked about in a
> laptop much and might just be missing it. I'm pretty sure they are
> generally laid out the same.
>
> THanks,
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>
>>
>> i have the 13 inch mbp, and love it,
>> when i was upgrading the ram, i found a surprise, there in addition  
>> to
>> the 2 speakers faceing up, is a small speaker under the bottom facing
>> down. i believe this is intended to give a fuller sound.
>> i didn't notice any differences from the 13 and 15 inch mbps.
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>  I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
>>> inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.
>>>
>>>  I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
>>> model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
>>> model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
>>> it.
>>>
>>>  I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
>>> volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
>>> MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
>>> would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
>>> price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
>>> the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
>>> fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
>>> similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
>>> information.
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Dave Wright]

I'm in the process of saving for an MBP myself. Just out of curiosity, what 
is the difference in processor performance between the 13 VS the 15? From 
what I've noticed online, it's possible to get the same processor 
configurations for both? Any advice would be much appreciated.


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Work Phone: 347-422-7085
Email:
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WebPage:
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- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: MacBook Pro Speakers


>
> That speaker facing down is a subwoofer believe it or not. Honestly I
> didn't notice a really massive difference in sound. THe 15-inch does
> seem a little louder, but then the speakers might be spaced a bit
> further out and I believe they are more under the keyboard on the 13-
> inch. However, I purchased the 15-inch not for sound, but difference
> in processor performance etc. Btw, can you tell me where the ram is on
> the MBP once you remove the bottom cover? I haven't poked about in a
> laptop much and might just be missing it. I'm pretty sure they are
> generally laid out the same.
>
> THanks,
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>
>>
>> i have the 13 inch mbp, and love it,
>> when i was upgrading the ram, i found a surprise, there in addition to
>> the 2 speakers faceing up, is a small speaker under the bottom facing
>> down. i believe this is intended to give a fuller sound.
>> i didn't notice any differences from the 13 and 15 inch mbps.
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>   I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
>>> inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.
>>>
>>>   I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
>>> model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
>>> model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
>>> it.
>>>
>>>   I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
>>> volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15 inch
>>> MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if it
>>> would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
>>> price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
>>> the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in that
>>> fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
>>> similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
>>> information.
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> > 


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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Scott Howell]

Thanks Chris. I don't know why I couldn't find it, but then there is  
this cover on something on the left side. I of course am not sure if I  
mentioned this is the model with the battery you cannot replace. with  
the cover off my MBP, the hard drive is on the left and the battery is  
on the right and there are two fans almost in the middle a bit more  
toward the rear or where the screen attaches. So, I'm not sure, but  
imagine these machines are similar. THanks and I'll have another look  
and it may be that I was looking for something a little larger than I  
was expecting.

On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Chris Polk wrote:

>
> if you remove the screws, and the laptop is upsidedown, the hinges for
> the display towards you, the ram is on the left hand side about 2
> thirds of the way up.
> the ram is stacked, so you will only see one chip, the other one is
> below the first.
> hope that makes sense.
>
> Chris
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>
>> That speaker facing down is a subwoofer believe it or not. Honestly I
>> didn't notice a really massive difference in sound. THe 15-inch does
>> seem a little louder, but then the speakers might be spaced a bit
>> further out and I believe they are more under the keyboard on the 13-
>> inch. However, I purchased the 15-inch not for sound, but difference
>> in processor performance etc. Btw, can you tell me where the ram is  
>> on
>> the MBP once you remove the bottom cover? I haven't poked about in a
>> laptop much and might just be missing it. I'm pretty sure they are
>> generally laid out the same.
>>
>> THanks,
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i have the 13 inch mbp, and love it,
>>> when i was upgrading the ram, i found a surprise, there in addition
>>> to
>>> the 2 speakers faceing up, is a small speaker under the bottom  
>>> facing
>>> down. i believe this is intended to give a fuller sound.
>>> i didn't notice any differences from the 13 and 15 inch mbps.
>>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:
>>>

 Hello,

 I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and 15
 inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.

 I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
 model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
 model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
 it.

 I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
 volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15  
 inch
 MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if  
 it
 would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
 price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
 the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in  
 that
 fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
 similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
 information.


 Keith

>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Fwd: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year

[Scott Howell]

Folks there has been a lot of talk about a tablet computer from Apple.  
I consider this a reliable resource and so feel sharing this article  
will shed some light and history on the upcoming product.


Begin forwarded message:

> Date: July 24, 2009 11:55:00 AM EDT
> Subject: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year
> Source: AppleInsider
>
> Exclusive: After four years of meticulous of developmental riddled  
> with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 launch of a  
> device that may see the electronics maker redefine the portable  
> computing market for the second time in twice as many years.
> Read more…
>


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Re: MacBook Pro Speakers

[Scott Howell]

The MBP 13-inch tops out at 2.53Ghz I believe and the 15-inch stock  
tops out at 2.8Ghz, but I think you can get a 3.06Ghz chip. I can't  
recall all the particulars, but for me it came down to three things.  
FIrst my wife's machine which was a first generation Intel iMac was  
having some issues, so I made the decision that if I was going to  
replace the machine, I'd get a notebook and give her my 20-inch iMac.  
Secondly I wanted to replace my iMac with a machine with similar  
specs, and finally third, I didn't want to wait and I quite frankly  
can't go into that, but there was a need. Point is if you can get the  
machine via the Apple store online and order it the way you want,  
great. If not, the 15-inch does offer more in terms of cpu speeds etc.  
when your talking stock. I'd love to have gotten the same MBP in a 13- 
inch box, but I didn't have that option. Of course just get a system  
you can live with for a while because I like to try and keep them for  
as long as possible. :)
Good luck, you'll be happy with whichever machine you purchase.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Dave Wright wrote:

>
> I'm in the process of saving for an MBP myself. Just out of  
> curiosity, what
> is the difference in processor performance between the 13 VS the 15?  
> From
> what I've noticed online, it's possible to get the same processor
> configurations for both? Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
>
> Best Regards:
> Dave Wright
> Work Phone: 347-422-7085
> Email:
> dwri...@gmail.com
> WebPage:
> http://www.knfbreader.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: MacBook Pro Speakers
>
>
>>
>> That speaker facing down is a subwoofer believe it or not. Honestly I
>> didn't notice a really massive difference in sound. THe 15-inch does
>> seem a little louder, but then the speakers might be spaced a bit
>> further out and I believe they are more under the keyboard on the 13-
>> inch. However, I purchased the 15-inch not for sound, but difference
>> in processor performance etc. Btw, can you tell me where the ram is  
>> on
>> the MBP once you remove the bottom cover? I haven't poked about in a
>> laptop much and might just be missing it. I'm pretty sure they are
>> generally laid out the same.
>>
>> THanks,
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chris Polk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i have the 13 inch mbp, and love it,
>>> when i was upgrading the ram, i found a surprise, there in  
>>> addition to
>>> the 2 speakers faceing up, is a small speaker under the bottom  
>>> facing
>>> down. i believe this is intended to give a fuller sound.
>>> i didn't notice any differences from the 13 and 15 inch mbps.
>>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Keith Bucher wrote:
>>>

 Hello,

  I would like to hear from anyone who owns or has seen the 13 and  
 15
 inch MacBook Pro models MB991ll/a or the MC118ll/a.

  I saw them in a Best Buy, but it was fairly noisy.  The 15 inch
 model had speakers on each side of the keyboard, while the 13 inch
 model's speakers seemed to be either in the screen or just beneath
 it.

  I'd like any opinions on any difference anyone has heard in the
 volume of the speakers between these two models.  To me, the 15  
 inch
 MC118ll/a sounded a bit louder, but I wasn't able to determine if  
 it
 would be loud enough to justify the approximate $200 increase in
 price.  I have been unable to find specifications on the size of
 the speakers used in each model.  But from what I could tell in  
 that
 fairly noisy environment, the quality of the sound sounded fairly
 similar when comparing these two computers.  Thanks for any
 information.


 Keith

>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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mike for a Mac Mini

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I would like to buy a microphone/earphones combination that will work  
with my Mac Mini. I bought a USB headset mike last week, but it turned  
out that it only works with Windows. What do I need to look for to be  
sure it will work?

Thanks a lot,
Anna


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Re: mike for a Mac Mini

[Robert Carter]

Hi Anna,

How do you know that it only works with Windows. Have you gone in to  
preferences on the Mac to see if it shows up under sounds? If it does  
show up,
you just need to select it to get it started working.

Robert CarterOn Jul 24, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to buy a microphone/earphones combination that will work
> with my Mac Mini. I bought a USB headset mike last week, but it turned
> out that it only works with Windows. What do I need to look for to be
> sure it will work?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Anna
>
>
> >


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Re: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year

[Abdul Kamara]

Gosh,

I guess I should be thrilled about this.  But it's a bit  
anticlimactic.  My sense is, the article is sourced from a  calculated  
leak on the part of Apple, to stoke a bit of excitement about a  
rollout most people saw coming.

That said, I'd be very interested to see the difference in design  
approach of the much speculated Netbook/tablet to that of the iPhone/ 
iPod Touch.

On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Scott Howell wrote:

> Folks there has been a lot of talk about a tablet computer from  
> Apple. I consider this a reliable resource and so feel sharing this  
> article will shed some light and history on the upcoming product.
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> Date: July 24, 2009 11:55:00 AM EDT
>> Subject: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next  
>> year
>> Source: AppleInsider
>>
>> Exclusive: After four years of meticulous of developmental riddled  
>> with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 launch of a  
>> device that may see the electronics maker redefine the portable  
>> computing market for the second time in twice as many years.
>> Read more…
>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year

[Scott Howell]

Yes, I've ben reading a good deal on this as well and so it really is  
not much of a surprise. There was some interesting bits tossed into  
the article, but in any event, I will be curious as well. I gather it  
will have at least one or two usb ports, be capable of video  
conferencing, and well generally it will be targeting I get the  
impression that perhaps it will have more horsepower and perhaps ram,  
but the overall interface apparently will be the same or mighty close  
to the iPhone and iPod Touch. Now what I find interesting is if this  
thing is to be another iPhone if you will, I wonder how it will work  
as far as no one is going to hold this monster up to their head and I  
imagine a bluetooth earphone will be a must or some headphone.
So, it will be interesting to learn as this progresses. Of course one  
other thing that is interesting is the keyboard will certainly be  
larger.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Abdul Kamara wrote:

> Gosh,
>
> I guess I should be thrilled about this.  But it's a bit  
> anticlimactic.  My sense is, the article is sourced from a   
> calculated leak on the part of Apple, to stoke a bit of excitement  
> about a rollout most people saw coming.
>
> That said, I'd be very interested to see the difference in design  
> approach of the much speculated Netbook/tablet to that of the iPhone/ 
> iPod Touch.
>
> On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>> Folks there has been a lot of talk about a tablet computer from  
>> Apple. I consider this a reliable resource and so feel sharing this  
>> article will shed some light and history on the upcoming product.
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> Date: July 24, 2009 11:55:00 AM EDT
>>> Subject: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next  
>>> year
>>> Source: AppleInsider
>>>
>>> Exclusive: After four years of meticulous of developmental riddled  
>>> with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 launch of  
>>> a device that may see the electronics maker redefine the portable  
>>> computing market for the second time in twice as many years.
>>> Read more…
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[william lomas]

you ahve to buy i think the whole US Infovox package i think

On 24 Jul 2009, at 20:20, Robert Carter wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
> for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear to
> me what to purchase.
>
> Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: tables on websites

[william lomas]

is snow leopard out do we know in september?

On 24 Jul 2009, at 16:40, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> This is one place where "group navigation" really works well. Even if
> you use "dom navigation" for most web pages, I would suggest switching
> to group navigation for this site. (too bad there is not a way to
> customize this on a per a site basis).
>
> Jon
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information  
>> in
>> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
>> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
>> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
>> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
>> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: mike for a Mac Mini

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Robert,

Thanks so very much! When I plugged the mike in this morning and  
nothing happened, and it came with a CD with Windows drivers and  
nothing for the Mac, I figured I was out of luck. But when I opened  
Sounds as you suggested, I found out the Mac did see it, and it works  
just fine.

All the best,
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Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Robert,

On Jul 24, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Robert Carter wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
> for my Mac.
Heather comes as part of every package of voices from Acapela. You can  
purchase the American voices, the British voices, or voices in any  
other language and you will have Heather as part of the deal.

Cheers,

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keyboard shortcuts for Skype

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Now that I have a working microphone for Skype, are there any keyboard  
shortcuts for answering calls, hanging up, etc.? I tried Skype help,  
but couldn't find anything. I also don't see global options for  
setting up keyboard commands in Skype preferences the way I did in the  
Windows version.

Thanks,
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Re: mike for a Mac Mini

[Robert Carter]

Hi Anna,

I was hoping that you would get it going? You will soon have the hang  
of this mac environment. It is awesome just different from Windows.

Robert Carter
On Jul 24, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

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> Hi Robert,
>
> Thanks so very much! When I plugged the mike in this morning and
> nothing happened, and it came with a CD with Windows drivers and
> nothing for the Mac, I figured I was out of luck. But when I opened
> Sounds as you suggested, I found out the Mac did see it, and it works
> just fine.
>
> All the best,
> Anna
>
>
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Tips on Non-Contiguous Selection [was Re: selecting specific tracks in itunes]

[Esther]

HI Gene, Jonathan, and Others,

I select non-contiguous items in a different fashion, and use VO- 
Command-Space to choose tracks after turning off cursor tracking.   
This method works for selecting items in Finder and other lists,  
columns, etc.  If you're in iTunes, and have already interacted with  
the songs table and are positioned at your first selection, start at  
step 3:

1. Interact with the table, column, etc. (VO-Shift-Down Arrow)
2. Navigate to the first item you want to select
3. Turn off cursor tracking (VO-Shift-F3)
4. Navigate to each additional item you want and select with VO- 
Command-Space
5. Turn cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3)
6. Perform your selected action (Copy, Add to Playlist, etc.)

Here are some other tips:
•  You can check your selection at any time with VO-F6
•  VO-Command-Space is a toggle action that can be used to de-select  
as well as to select, and the item you have selected or deselected  
will get announced each time you perform the command.  So, if you  
checked your selection with VO-F6 and discovered there was an item you  
didn't mean to select, just navigate to it and use VO-Command-Space  
again to de-select the item.
•  If you are going through a long list of items, I find it easiest to  
lock my VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon); then I typically just go up  
and down the list with my arrow keys and press Command-Space to select  
or de-select items and press F6 to check selections.  I unlock my  
VoiceOver keys by pressing Semi-Colon when I'm done.  Of course, other  
navigation commands, such as moving to the top or bottom of a list  
with VO-Home or VO-End (VO-Fn-Shift-Left arrow and VO-Fn-Shift-RIght  
arrow) also work.

So for Gene, if I were in the iTunes songs table and wanted to move  
through a long list tracks to make selections, I'd start out in the  
song name column, after having first winnowed down the list by using  
the File Browser (toggled on or off with Command-B) or the search text  
field to shorten the list of interest by matching to a specific album,  
artist, or other search term, and move to my first selection.  Then I  
would do:

1. Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3)
2. Lock VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-colon)
3. Arrow up or down to items of interest and select with Command-Space
3a. Optionally check selections with F6; modify selections by arrowing  
to the desired item and deselect with Command-Space
4. Unlock VoiceOver keys by pressing Semi-colon
5. Turn cursor tracking on (VO-Shift-F3)
6. Perform the action you want, e.g. New playlist from selection with  
Command-Shift-N; Add to Playlist with VO-Shift-M and select from the  
contextual menu, etc.

You can also bookmark the quick tip about this from the lioncourt.com  
site:

http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/04/09/mac-cessibility-quick-tip-12/

This is, indeed discussed in the archives, and you can also read my  
post:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg36686.html
(Selecting non-contiguous items)

I couldn't quite use Jonathan's commands in iTunes.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther



On Jul 24, 2009, at 08:52, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

>
> 1. Turn off cursor tracking. (VO-shift-F3)
> 2. Go to first item to select and select it  (VO-Return)
> 3. Go to additional rows and select with (VO-shift-space)
> 4. Turn Cursor tracking back on (VO-shift-F3)
>
> You can hear the selected items with vo-shift-F6. I was on the USAJOBS
> web site yesterday picking out local job locations in 3 states, oh boy
> was that fun, but the same principles worked there.
>
> Jon
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:40 PM, gene wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi I have a similar question, and I know this has been asked before,
>> but
>> let's say I want to select a few songs from an alvum but not
>> everything else
>> in between, How can I do that, it doesn't seem to matter whither I
>> do shift
>> up arrow or down arrow it just keeps selecting more stuff and of
>> course it
>> doesn't tell you exactly what I've selected but I can't seem to find
>> a way
>> to select just the songs I want as well as everything else.
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: keyboard shortcuts for Skype

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

You should be able to set this up in the system preferences.

Under Keyboard and mouse there is a tab called keyboard shortcuts.

By default there are no skype shortcuts, but below the table are two  
buttons  the first is add and the second is remove.

I did not actually try this myself, but when you click that first  
button it gives instructions. Give it a wirl and let us know.

Jon

On Jul 24, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Now that I have a working microphone for Skype, are there any keyboard
> shortcuts for answering calls, hanging up, etc.? I tried Skype help,
> but couldn't find anything. I also don't see global options for
> setting up keyboard commands in Skype preferences the way I did in the
> Windows version.
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next year

[Abdul Kamara]

I'm more inclined to think it will be more web focused, not telephony.

I'd be impressed if unlike the iPhone or iPod Touch, it would provide  
for more choice of input devices be it via USB or BlueTooth.

But again, we speculate.

Until then, back I go to scheming on the purchase of an iPhone.

Best,

Abdul


On 24 Jul 2009, at 23:30, Scott Howell wrote:

> Yes, I've ben reading a good deal on this as well and so it really  
> is not much of a surprise. There was some interesting bits tossed  
> into the article, but in any event, I will be curious as well. I  
> gather it will have at least one or two usb ports, be capable of  
> video conferencing, and well generally it will be targeting I get  
> the impression that perhaps it will have more horsepower and perhaps  
> ram, but the overall interface apparently will be the same or mighty  
> close to the iPhone and iPod Touch. Now what I find interesting is  
> if this thing is to be another iPhone if you will, I wonder how it  
> will work as far as no one is going to hold this monster up to their  
> head and I imagine a bluetooth earphone will be a must or some  
> headphone.
> So, it will be interesting to learn as this progresses. Of course  
> one other thing that is interesting is the keyboard will certainly  
> be larger.
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Abdul Kamara wrote:
>
>> Gosh,
>>
>> I guess I should be thrilled about this.  But it's a bit  
>> anticlimactic.  My sense is, the article is sourced from a   
>> calculated leak on the part of Apple, to stoke a bit of excitement  
>> about a rollout most people saw coming.
>>
>> That said, I'd be very interested to see the difference in design  
>> approach of the much speculated Netbook/tablet to that of the  
>> iPhone/iPod Touch.
>>
>> On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>> Folks there has been a lot of talk about a tablet computer from  
>>> Apple. I consider this a reliable resource and so feel sharing  
>>> this article will shed some light and history on the upcoming  
>>> product.
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
 Date: July 24, 2009 11:55:00 AM EDT
 Subject: Apple's much-anticipated tablet device coming early next  
 year
 Source: AppleInsider

 Exclusive: After four years of meticulous of developmental  
 riddled with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010  
 launch of a device that may see the electronics maker redefine  
 the portable computing market for the second time in twice as  
 many years.
 Read more…

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Question about downloading audio files linked from web pages in safari

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi, you can do this quite easily. Press control option shift m on the  
link, and choose download linked file from the menu.
On Jul 23, 2009, at 8:15 PM, James Mannion wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Is there a way to configure things so that when you click on a link on
> a page such as blindcooltech.com or serotalk.com as examples that have
> links that are http://www and have an mp3 file at the end of the link
> so that it will download the mp3 instead of just launching into
> quicktime or whatever it is that just streams and plays it at that
> point?  Some of them you can do the control options shift m and pick
> the download file from the menu and that is fine, but sometimes when
> you do that it does not give you that specific of an option.  To
> explain what I am talking about when I go to exactly those same links
> on the windows side it says do you want to open or save this file.
> Now I want to prefer to use the mac more and more til I don't care
> about the PC practically, but I really wonder if I can configure it to
> give me that option with those links to download the file without
> having to hope there is and go to some other page such as the podcast
> page just to do it.  A little thing, but it is really pissing me off
> actually when it is an issue.  Ok, of course I keep it in perspective,
> but you know it is annoying.  Is it something in quicktime or ITunes
> or safari that you configure differently if it is possible?  I looked
> through the options in safari and didn't find anything.  I haven't
> looked yet through ITunes honestly, but thought maybe somebody here
> already "invented the wheel" and knows the simple answer.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
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Re: selecting text you are interacting with

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi, yes. Move to the start of the text, then press control option  
enter. Now move to the end of the text you want to select and press  
control option enter again. The text should now be selected, you can  
confirm this by pressing control option f6. You can now press command  
c to copy it.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to select text you are interacting with, such as on a
> web page or in an e-mail message? I know I can click on links in e-
> mail messages or add addresses to address books; I just wondered about
> grabbing information to use in other programs.
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
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Re: tables on websites

[Mike Arrigo]

Voice over does not have a table navigation mode as the windows screen  
readers do, so you would simply navigate it item by item. Usually this  
works fine.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in
> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[Mike Arrigo]

She is actually part of the u.s. or u.k. english package. You would  
need to purchase infovox ivox, which includes one language, and you  
can add other languages if you want. I have the u.s. and U.K. voices,  
and they work great with voiceover.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Robert Carter wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
> for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear to
> me what to purchase.
>
> Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert Carter
>
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Re: mike for a Mac Mini

[Mike Arrigo]

Hi, this is surprising. Most usb headsets should work fine on the mac.  
Once you connect it to a usb port, are you able to select it under  
sound in system preferences? Also, be sure you are connecting it  
directly to the mac and not using a usb hub.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to buy a microphone/earphones combination that will work
> with my Mac Mini. I bought a USB headset mike last week, but it turned
> out that it only works with Windows. What do I need to look for to be
> sure it will work?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Anna
>
>
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Re: mike for a Mac Mini

[Mike Arrigo]

Usually, the mac does not need external drivers, like apple says,  
usually, it just works.
On Jul 24, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

>
> Hi Robert,
>
> Thanks so very much! When I plugged the mike in this morning and
> nothing happened, and it came with a CD with Windows drivers and
> nothing for the Mac, I figured I was out of luck. But when I opened
> Sounds as you suggested, I found out the Mac did see it, and it works
> just fine.
>
> All the best,
> Anna
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Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[Marie Howarth]

how much are these packages? :)

On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

>
> She is actually part of the u.s. or u.k. english package. You would
> need to purchase infovox ivox, which includes one language, and you
> can add other languages if you want. I have the u.s. and U.K. voices,
> and they work great with voiceover.
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
>> for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear to
>> me what to purchase.
>>
>> Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Robert Carter
>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

The Acapela package is $99.

Robert Carter
On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:

>
> how much are these packages? :)
>
> On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
>>
>> She is actually part of the u.s. or u.k. english package. You would
>> need to purchase infovox ivox, which includes one language, and you
>> can add other languages if you want. I have the u.s. and U.K. voices,
>> and they work great with voiceover.
>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
>>> for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear  
>>> to
>>> me what to purchase.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert Carter
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
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Summary Information on Heather and other Infovox voice purchase options from U.S. [was Re: Purchasing Acapela Heather Voice}

[Esther]

Hi Robert, Marie, and others,

In the U.S. you purchase the Acapela group's voices, which are sold for the Mac 
as Infovox/iVox voices distributed by Assistiveware, from Origin Instruments.   
When you navigate from the Assistiveware pages to do a purchase in the U.S., 
you're directed to the Origin Instruments page at this link:

http://orin.com/ec/infovox_ivox/

However, this page only has settings for the most popular language packages 
(like French and Spanish).  They sell all the products described on the 
Assistiveware site pages, but you have to email or call in for items that don't 
show up on their site, like languages such as Greek or Russian.  When you 
purchase from the Origin Instruments page you do not go through the Kagi 
payment pages that some list members have complained about, but you can just 
call Origin Instruments directly or send them an email.

Here's the contact information:

Origin Instruments Corporation
854 Greenview Drive
Grand Prairie, Texas 75050-2438
USA

Voice: 972-606-8740
FAX: 972-606-8741
email: supp...@orin.com

As Anne mentioned, the Heather voice is included in every Infovox/iVox language 
package, so you get this if you buy the British English voice pack, for 
example.  Additional language packs are $49.50.  You can also buy a household 
license that allows you to use the voice packs on up to 5 computers for $149 
(non-Scandinavian languages -- this is the price if you purchase one voice pack 
with the household license instead of a single user license).  If you purchased 
a single user license before, you can also buy something called a household 
extension license ($79 for non-Scandinavian languages).  You can also buy the 
GhostReader+Infovox/iVox bundle (apparently for any language, so you could get 
the French version of GhostReader, the French Infovox/iVox voices, and the 
Heather English voice and use all the French voices in GhostReader plus 
Heather, Alex, and any of your system voices).

GhostReader is not designed for the visually impaired market, but may be of 
special interest to low-vision users or users who work in multiple languages.  
The voices are compressed versions of the Acapela voices that can only be used 
within GhostReader to read web pages, mail, or documents while the Infovox/iVox 
voices can be used system-wide with VoiceOver. GhostReader can also use any of 
your system voices.  You can switch to different language voices on the fly 
with keyboard shortcuts, record spoken selections to sound files, and it has 
some nice features like skipping paragraphs or sentences or repeating text.  
However, you're using the GhostReader interface and not VoiceOver, so you don't 
have the same flexibility in navigating through web pages, interacting, 
selecting links, etc. and   it's a bit tricky to start working with this with 
no vision.  Anne may have more comments about this.  There's an undocumented 
feature that allows you switch voices in applications like TextEdit if a 
control sequence specific to GhostReader is inserted.

Since there is a "Value bundle" of Infovox/iVox + GhostReader for $109 
(non-Scandinavian language of your choice, single user license) I thought it 
was worth mentioning GhosReader.  I didn't find out about a lot of these 
options until after I had made purchases, and in some cases the options were 
not available at the time I purchased.  This composite information is the 
result of reading through the Assistiveware pages, the Origin Instrument pages, 
phone questions to Origin Instruments, and answers to queries on the list 
supplied by David Niemeijer of Assistiveware.   To search for more information 
in the archives, try using Infovox instead of Acapela.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther
 


Robert Carter wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>The Acapela package is $99.
>
>Robert Carter
>On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
>>
>> how much are these packages? :)
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:38 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> She is actually part of the u.s. or u.k. english package. You would
>>> need to purchase infovox ivox, which includes one language, and you
>>> can add other languages if you want. I have the u.s. and U.K. voices,
>>> and they work great with voiceover.
>>> On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>>>

 Hi,

 I am wanting to purchase the Acapela text to speech voice, Heather,
 for my Mac. I was looking at assistiveware.com and it wasn't clear  
 to
 me what to purchase.

 Does anybody know how to get Heather and how much does she cost?

 Thanks,

 Robert Carter

>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> >
>
>
>>
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Re: tables on websites

[James Mannion]

I thought it might be useful to mention that if you are on a site and
you open up the voiceover utility and then go to the web settings, if
you switch modes it will switch the mode on the web site you are
currently on when you switch back to the safari window.  For now that
is the best for a "switch" to switch between them, but it is not that
bad as a work around for that.  If you know you might be switching
back and forth, just keep your voiceover window open so you can flip
over to it quickly and switch that check box.  One thing I do wonder
though if anyone knows anything I didn't catch on to, I was on a site
the other day and had groups mode on and was trying to read an article
listed under a heading.  Because groups mode was on and there were
things in other columns going down the page, the other columns broke
up the article when trying to read through it.  I guessed that was
just a site where groups mode didn't work out so well.  Then I see
someone here though that says they always have groups mode on and I
have heard others that use it pretty much exclusively.  Is there a
good way of handeling such situations in groups mode?

Jim


On 7/24/09, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>
> Voice over does not have a table navigation mode as the windows screen
> readers do, so you would simply navigate it item by item. Usually this
> works fine.
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in
>> tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows.
>> There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I
>> can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I
>> can move up and down a column. Is there any way to navigate such
>> tables with Safari other than one cell at a time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anna
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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Re: Question about downloading audio files linked from web pages in safari

[James Mannion]

Thank you all for all the answers you gave me to this.  I find that
the shift-control-options m to bring up that menu only sometimes
works.  On something like on the front age of serotalk.com for example
it does not give you the appropriate option in that menu.  That was
what made me realize it wasn't a usable anser for all cases and I
don't know about most or not.  Armed with these suggestions though
that issue should no longer be a problem.

Jim


On 7/24/09, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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> Hi, you can do this quite easily. Press control option shift m on the
> link, and choose download linked file from the menu.
> On Jul 23, 2009, at 8:15 PM, James Mannion wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Is there a way to configure things so that when you click on a link on
>> a page such as blindcooltech.com or serotalk.com as examples that have
>> links that are http://www and have an mp3 file at the end of the link
>> so that it will download the mp3 instead of just launching into
>> quicktime or whatever it is that just streams and plays it at that
>> point?  Some of them you can do the control options shift m and pick
>> the download file from the menu and that is fine, but sometimes when
>> you do that it does not give you that specific of an option.  To
>> explain what I am talking about when I go to exactly those same links
>> on the windows side it says do you want to open or save this file.
>> Now I want to prefer to use the mac more and more til I don't care
>> about the PC practically, but I really wonder if I can configure it to
>> give me that option with those links to download the file without
>> having to hope there is and go to some other page such as the podcast
>> page just to do it.  A little thing, but it is really pissing me off
>> actually when it is an issue.  Ok, of course I keep it in perspective,
>> but you know it is annoying.  Is it something in quicktime or ITunes
>> or safari that you configure differently if it is possible?  I looked
>> through the options in safari and didn't find anything.  I haven't
>> looked yet through ITunes honestly, but thought maybe somebody here
>> already "invented the wheel" and knows the simple answer.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
>

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Fwd: Verizon rumored to be fast-tracking 4G for launch by early 2010

[Scott Howell]

Folks, the question of whether VZW will offer the iPhone on their  
network and other such questions have come up. THis article may shed  
some light on the future of the iPhone and Apple's rumored tablet  
machine do out in 2010.


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> Date: July 24, 2009 7:00:00 PM EDT
> Subject: Verizon rumored to be fast-tracking 4G for launch by early  
> 2010
> Source: AppleInsider
>
> A new rumor suggests that Verizon could be scrambling to launch its  
> high-speed Long-Term Evolution data network in the first quarter of  
> 2010 -- just in time, perhaps, to accommodate an Apple-made tablet.
> Read more…
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Web links where VO-Shift-M does not give download menu options [was Re: Question about downloading audio files linked] from web pages in safari

[Esther]

Hi James,

I just checked the Serotalk web pages in both Safari and the latest WebKit, and 
you're correct that VO-Shift-M doesn't work on their podcast links to show you 
the option to download.  I tried both group and DOM navigation modes for both 
Safari and WebKit; I tried this with and without the cursor tracking option 
turned on and with cursor routed to the link.  Control-click doesn't bring up 
the menu with the option to download, either. It also doesn't matter whether 
I've tried to interact first. It's as though the focus is centered on an 
element box and not actually on the link so that VO-Shift M (or Control-Click) 
doesn't take effect.  Option+Enter will work on all these cases, though. Sounds 
like something to report to accessibil...@apple.com with this specific site 
(serotalk.com) as an example.

Cheers,

Esther

James Mannion wrote:
>
>Thank you all for all the answers you gave me to this.  I find that
>the shift-control-options m to bring up that menu only sometimes
>works.  On something like on the front age of serotalk.com for example
>it does not give you the appropriate option in that menu.  That was
>what made me realize it wasn't a usable anser for all cases and I
>don't know about most or not.  Armed with these suggestions though
>that issue should no longer be a problem.
>
>Jim
>

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Fwd: Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with "Guru Bars"

[Scott Howell]

WOw, maybe Microsoft is feeling a little pressured to try emulating  
Apple even more? This should prove quite fascinating and I assume with  
all these PCs they plan to sell, would mean third-party deals with  
Dell and other companies. What is interesting is if they will have  
demos of the windows-based screen readers. :)

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> Date: July 24, 2009 9:20:00 PM EDT
> Subject: Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with "Guru Bars"
> Source: AppleInsider
>
> A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentative plans for  
> its retail stores -- and the high degree to which they'll imitate  
> Apple stores, down to their layouts and even the presence of a  
> dedicated "Guru Bar" for help.
> Read more…
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running leopard on a pc?

[gene]

Hi, I have vmware for windows as well as my ibook, and some other people on 
another list I'm on are trying to run leopard on the pc under vmware and I 
was trying it to but I don't know if it is possible or not, I chose other as 
the os because there isn't an option for the mac os. 


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RE: running leopard on a pc?

[Blake Sinnett]

I really don't think that'll work. As far as I know there isn't a VM that 
emulates EFI (extensible firmware interface.) However, I could be wrong.
 
> From: gene5...@austin.rr.com
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: running leopard on a pc?
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:02:32 -0500
> 
> 
> Hi, I have vmware for windows as well as my ibook, and some other people on 
> another list I'm on are trying to run leopard on the pc under vmware and I 
> was trying it to but I don't know if it is possible or not, I chose other as 
> the os because there isn't an option for the mac os. 
> 
> 
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Re: running leopard on a pc?

[Barry Hadder]

I remember reading somewhere that vmware used to have something for  
the pc a few years ago that would run mac os.  They pulled it though  
due to threats they got from Apple.

On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> I really don't think that'll work. As far as I know there isn't a VM  
> that emulates EFI (extensible firmware interface.) However, I could  
> be wrong.
>
> > From: gene5...@austin.rr.com
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: running leopard on a pc?
> > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:02:32 -0500
> >
> >
> > Hi, I have vmware for windows as well as my ibook, and some other  
> people on
> > another list I'm on are trying to run leopard on the pc under  
> vmware and I
> > was trying it to but I don't know if it is possible or not, I  
> chose other as
> > the os because there isn't an option for the mac os.
> >
> >
> >
> >


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Re: Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with "Guru Bars"

[Abdul Kamara]

Oh how sad...

I bet the people at Microsoft were "squirting" all over each other  
Zoons in hand when they came up with that...

Yeah, this is one of few areas where I would criticize Apple.  It is  
problematic when Geniuses know nothing about the accessibility  
components of the operating system, or at least, not reliably so.. to  
the extent that they could demonstrate it in house.

Best,

Abdul

Best,

A


On 25 Jul 2009, at 04:20, Scott Howell wrote:

> WOw, maybe Microsoft is feeling a little pressured to try emulating  
> Apple even more? This should prove quite fascinating and I assume  
> with all these PCs they plan to sell, would mean third-party deals  
> with Dell and other companies. What is interesting is if they will  
> have demos of the windows-based screen readers. :)
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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>> Date: July 24, 2009 9:20:00 PM EDT
>> Subject: Microsoft stores to mimic Apple's with "Guru Bars"
>> Source: AppleInsider
>>
>> A leaked presentation has exposed Microsoft's tentative plans for  
>> its retail stores -- and the high degree to which they'll imitate  
>> Apple stores, down to their layouts and even the presence of a  
>> dedicated "Guru Bar" for help.
>> Read more…
>>
>
>
> >


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