Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes is Buggy?
Hey, I'd like to hear about everyone's experience of iTunes 9. I've been having some problems with some bugs, and am wondering if these are actual bugs, or I'm just doing something wrong. First off, I cannot arrow through the songs as I could in Leopard with the older iTunes. When I am in list mode and have the browser active, I am unable to get Voice Over to announce anything while I arrow through the lists. It actually doesn't even move the cursor. In addition to this, I am unable to type any letters to have the cursor move to a particular artist or album title. I wrote to Apple, and they said they weren't encountering this problem. I'd like to see if anyone is experiencing this? I am a big fan of iTunes, and am a bit frustrated with these bugs. Thanks for any feedback. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
great question and suggestion. tell apple through their accessibility section. Take care, Max On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in VO help. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: arrowing through songs
Hey, I am definitely experiencing the same thing, and haven't seen any improvements with this in iTunes 9. has anyone gotten this to work? This is starting to bug the heck out of me! Howard Dupuis wrote: I'll betcha that this -- and many other iTunes problems -- will be fixed later today with the release of iTunes 9. Here's hoping ... On Sep 9, 9:53 am, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all has anyone else noted under snowleopard one can't arrow through their songs as they are playing in iTunes with left arrow and right arrow? Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
i downloaded a ten meg file off software update - Original Message - From: James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in VO help. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications
I'm having difficulty figuring out how to place applications on the Desktop and on the Dock. I've read and reread the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide and cannot figure out how to do this. AT the very least, I'd like the Hard Drive on my desktop. I also was playing with TextEdit, but could only access that app using Spotlight. Any assistance appreciated with this. Les __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4415 (20090910) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
leopard security update 5 out
Yep, for those still lagging behind :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Oh okay. I read that the 10.6.1 update would be about 75 MB. So I don't know what that is? Ay improvements? - Original Message - From: will lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it i downloaded a ten meg file off software update - Original Message - From: James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in VO help. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
10.6.1
It seems that it was released yesterday. As per usual, there is no mention of VO but fixes in Mail are mentioned as is the Flash issue. Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications
Hi Les, To access your applications folder, press command shift A, then go down to text edit, then open it. To place it in the dock, press VO D as in control option D, then find the open text edit icon. once there, just press the down arrow and a contextual menu will come up, from which you have the option to leave the application on the dock. If you're using snow leopard, i think you can bring up the contextual menu with VO shift M. For having applications on the desktop, you can chose a file or application you want on the desktop, then control enter to make an alias, then copy that alias to the desktp, which you can access through command shift c which stands for computer. look for desktp, then paste your alias which is shortcut for mac into the desktop folder. As for the harddisk, i'm not sure as i had them on by default but perhaps you can look in the system preferences, which you can access with control F2 then arrowing down the apple menu to system preferences. Hope that helps somewhat best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
It's very much that hard though if you don't happen to have a copy of iTunes handy, I'm thinking people who want to test run the iPhone in a shop or borrow their buddy's iPhone to demonstrate an app or perhaps just show off. You might say it's an unlikely scenario and you'd probably be right, but it's the principal of how cool being able to walk up to any Mac anytime and know you can load VO is, surely that should apply to the iPhone too. Chris, definitely write to accessibil...@apple.com man, I've done the same. I'm amazed they didn't think of this. Unless I'm missing something a tripple hit on home doesn't clash with anything a sighty might want to do, so it shouldn't be a biggy for them to implement surely. Scott On 9/11/09, william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com wrote: you just check the box in itunes to set it up yourself anyway it not that hard On 11 Sep 2009, at 05:59, Chris Blouch wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications
If yo go to the Finder menu, you'll find what your looking for in Finder's Preferences - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications Hi Les, To access your applications folder, press command shift A, then go down to text edit, then open it. To place it in the dock, press VO D as in control option D, then find the open text edit icon. once there, just press the down arrow and a contextual menu will come up, from which you have the option to leave the application on the dock. If you're using snow leopard, i think you can bring up the contextual menu with VO shift M. For having applications on the desktop, you can chose a file or application you want on the desktop, then control enter to make an alias, then copy that alias to the desktp, which you can access through command shift c which stands for computer. look for desktp, then paste your alias which is shortcut for mac into the desktop folder. As for the harddisk, i'm not sure as i had them on by default but perhaps you can look in the system preferences, which you can access with control F2 then arrowing down the apple menu to system preferences. Hope that helps somewhat best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications
Hello Les, First of all, you can select what appears on your Desktop by opening Finder Preferences (Command-comma) and checking the items under the General tab. Secondly, keeping applications on the Desktop is not the Mac way of doing things. We have the Dock for that. When an application is running, it will always appear in the Dock. At that point, you can choose to keep it there by going to it in the Dock, pressing Control- Option-Shift-m to open a contextual menu and selecting Keep in Dock. Cheers, Anne On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: I'm having difficulty figuring out how to place applications on the Desktop and on the Dock. I've read and reread the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide and cannot figure out how to do this. AT the very least, I'd like the Hard Drive on my desktop. I also was playing with TextEdit, but could only access that app using Spotlight. Any assistance appreciated with this. Les __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4415 (20090910) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Multi-language spell checking in Snow Leopard [was Re: About nisus writer and spell checking]
Hi again. I have found out how to choose language. It worked after a restart. Best regards Annie. 2009/9/11, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi again. Thank you to all. I have a few more questions. I have only used mac for about a month, so I still have a lot to learn. Yesterday I found out, that it is possible to use multiple languages in snow leopard, but I didn't find out how to check more languages, and how is it possible to know which languages you have selected. I know that I need to set the dictionary to danish, but how can I do that. Yesterday i found a sort of a tabel, but to me it seems a bit difficult to use that tabel. I tried to chose danish and the row beside i chose danish again, but I am not sure, that I have done it quite right. Best regards Annie. 2009/9/10, Justin Harford blindst...@gmail.com: So that's what it is. I love being able to write in Spanish and English now without having to change languages for spell check. If anything, SL has been an improvement for bilingual people. J On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Esther wrote: Hello James and Annie, I don't use Nisus Writer Pro, but I've read that there are a few bugs in the spell checking under Snow Leopard that will be sorted in the next beta release, in case Annie is using Snow Leopard. I've also read that Snow Leopard itself supports multiple language spell checking, based on the languages you check to have it check under System Preferences in Language Text. Danish is one of the languages. This doesn't work for all applications, but it works in TextEdit and Safari, for example. Here's the link to the TUAW article on Unsung Snow Leopard feature: multiple language spell-checker: http://www.tuaw.com/2009/09/04/unsung-snow-leopard-feature-multiple-language-spell-checker/ This seems like a great feature for people who work with multiple languages in the same document. Cheers, Esther James Nash wrote: Hi Annie, Yes there is a Danish localization. It should be possible to spell in check in Danish but you ay need to set the dictionary to Danish. HTH Take care James - Original Message - From: Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: About nisus writer and spell checking Hi. I have downloaded a trial of nisus writer. I really like that program. But I can not find out how to spell check in danish. It works fine in english. Do anybody know if it is possible to spell check in danish, and how I can do it. Best regards Annie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: iPhone VO home button oddity
True, but I agree with Chris, here. If you could just turn it on with the tripple press of Home,, every blind/vi user could walk out of the store with their iphone speaking. I think this would be a very nice feature. Donna -Original Message- From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity you just check the box in itunes to set it up yourself anyway it not that hard On 11 Sep 2009, at 05:59, Chris Blouch wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: iPhone VO home button oddity
Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed. It wouldn't impact their useage in any way. Donna -Original Message- From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
Good point Donna. I never looked at it from that position. Maybe Apple will get enough feedback and add this feature to their next update. The steps Apple has taken have been great for blind and low vision folks, but you have to remeber that Rome wasn't built in a day and baby steps are far better then no steps at all. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed. It wouldn't impact their useage in any way. Donna From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
Out off the boox you turrn VO on in iTunes I have some sight and love the new feature. Camera now works great. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:08, Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com wrote: Good point Donna. I never looked at it from that position. Maybe Apple will get enough feedback and add this feature to their next update. The steps Apple has taken have been great for blind and low vision folks, but you have to remeber that Rome wasn't built in a day and baby steps are far better then no steps at all. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed. It wouldn't impact their useage in any way. Donna From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self- service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Navigating and opening applications on your Mac [was Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications]
Hi Les, You've already had a number of good replies on this topic, so I'll add my comments to Yuma's instructions. The basic tool for accessing files and applications on the Mac is Finder, and when you start up your computer, Finder will be running. It will be the only application running until you launch another application, and you will be at your Desktop. Under the default settings, your hard drive will show up on your Desktop as Macintosh HD. While you can adjust what items will appear on your Desktop by opening your Finder preferences file, as James and Anne outlined, you probably don't want to do that yet. As Anne stated, it's a good idea to keep the Desktop uncluttered, since having really large numbers of files on your Desktop will eventually slow down your system performance, so it helps to at least organize them into a folder. The most commonly used applications will be in the Dock, and all applications can be launched from either the Applications folder or the Utilities folder under applications. In addition, any application you launch can be set to be kept in the Dock, as Yuma noted, so you don't really need to keep Applications on your Desktop. In Finder, there are a number of useful shortcuts for navigating to key directories and folders: Command-Shift-H your Home directory (the top level of your user account) Command-Shift-D your Desktop Command-Shift-A your Applications folder Command-Shift-U your Utilities folder Command-Shift-C your Computer (lets you see attached drives and devices) To launch an application that isn't already in the Dock, from Finder, navigate to the Applications folder with Command-Shift-A and type the first few letters of the application's name (e.g. t e x t for TextEdit), or use your arrow keys to navigate to and highlight applications. Open applications with Command-O (or, I prefer to use Command-Down arrow, which keeps my fingers closer to the arrow navigation keys). Your method of finding and launching applications with Spotlight by typing in the name of the application (or enough of the first few letters to uniquely identify the app) is also fine, but you may find these other techniques easier to use as you get more familiar with your Mac. All active applications appear in the Dock, and one of the menu items for apps in the Dock is Keep in Dock. So once you have launched TextEdit, or any other application that you want to keep in the dock, use VO-D, or Control-Option-D (where I'll use VO to indicate the VoiceOver Control and Option key combination) to navigate to the Dock, and move to the app using your arrow keys or by typing the first few letters of the application's name. Then, you can use either the general command for a contextual menu (VO-Shift-M), or the shortcut of simply pressing the down arrow, to bring up a menu and select Keep in Dock. VO-Shift-M may be easier to learn, since you'll use it in many situations. Pressing the Down arrow works as a fast alternative for accessing menus from the Dock, but is less standard, since it assume the Dock is in its default position at the bottom of the screen. If someone decides to position their Dock on the right side of the screen, you'll have to press Right arrow to bring up a menu, and if the Dock is positioned at the left, you'll have to press Left arrow. (You're unlikely to encounter these differences, but if you use a Mac that a sighted person has set up with the Dock in another location, VO-Shift-M will always work, but Down arrow may need to be replaced with Right arrow or Left arrow.) The other thing to know about using Finder is that issuing shortcut commands like Command-Shift A brings up a Finder window. The basic structure of the Finder window is a Toolbar, Sidebar, and Scroll area. The Sidebar contains devices, such as your Macintosh HD, external connected drives, attached USB memory keys, CDs or DVDs that you insert, and specific folders such as your Desktop, Home, Applications, and Documents folder, Music folder, etc. The Scroll area lists individual files and folders. When you pressed Command-Shift-A in Finder, you brought up a window with the Applications folder highlighted in the sidebar, and with the Scroll area showing files in the Applications folder. The Scroll area can display files and folders in a number of Views, and you can switch between these views at your convenience. Command-1 is icon view, Command-2 is list view, and Command-3 is column view. List view is good to use if I want to check things like the file size or creation date, or if I want to reorder my list of files in the date they were created. Column view is useful to easily navigate up and down directory trees, since each column shows you the structure of folders above and below your selected file level. You can navigate through folders and disk by highlighting
Re: language switcher.
Hi Jonathan, If I change my shell from bash to one that supports environment variables like tcsh, then issuing a setenv command in terminal shows there is a LANG environment variable: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 Mac OS X lets you launch applications with a switch for the language localization -AppleLanguages this takes a 2 letter argument enclosed in parentheses which are in turn enclosed in single quotation marks. Earlier this year a 4G iPod Nano user reported that he could not access the music and podcast tabs for his device when the iPod was connected (to check or uncheck entries) to his computer, although it synced fine, and all the Nano spoken menus (in German) worked correctly. I launched iTunes with a German language localization with a terminal command: /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunes -AppleLanguages '(de)' and found that when I connected my iPod Nano 4G I could no longer access these tabs with VoiceOver, although they were perfectly accessible to me in the English language version of iTunes. A quick experiment showed that when the list member forced his version of iTunes to launch with an English localization from the terminal, he had no problems accessing the tabs with VoiceOver and checking or unchecking his selections: /Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunes -AppleLanguages '(en)' So his solution was to report the problem to the accessibility team and use iTunes in German for his regular use, but launch it in English for the purposes of changing the synced content by accessing the checkboxes on the music and podcasts tabs when he connected his iPod Nano 4G. (The problem was fixed in iTunes 8.2.1, so he no longer has to do this!). There's an easier way for people to set the language localization of an app (in Leopard) through the GUI. If you do a Get Info (Command- I) on a selected application file, the Get Info window has an area that VoiceOver announces as Languages: expanded disclosure triangle. If you navigate past this, there is a table of available language localizations preceded by checkboxes. Unchecking all but one of the boxes and saving your changes means that the next time the app is opened, it will have to open in the only checked language localization -- even if that is not the default language for the account. This language localization information and selection feature that shows up under Get Info for apps appears to have been removed in Snow Leopard. One language feature that went away from Tiger to Leopard, and appears to be restored in Snow Leopard, is the ability to have multiple windows up for an app with a different input keyboard for each window. So, if I am using TextEdit to compose one message in French with a French input keyboard, and want to open another TextEdit window to compose a message in Russian with a Russian input keyboard, I should be able to do that in Snow Leopard. Cheers, Esther Jonathan Cohn wrote: Hmm, in my Solaris machines, setting the LANG environment variable in the shell before launch will set the localization. I wonder if that would work in Leopard? Something like a shell script LANG=UK/English launch mail :0) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
Hi Donna, I think the problem is that sighted users also use the triple click of the home button. It just does something else for them on the iPhone. (Not sure about this though) Cheers, Esther Donna Goodin wrote: Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed. It wouldn't impact their useage in any way. Donna From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self-service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: apple ii emulator for sl?
I did try that one as I recall and it didn't fly. That was a long time ago though, maybe it has improved. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 10-Sep-09, at 4:34 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: This one seems interesting. http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/VirtualII/ Wonder how accessible it is. UI is probably ok but then the display is going to be just a bitmap so it will be hard to tell what's going on. CB erik burggraaf wrote: I did try several, but they stunk. That was almost a year ago though, so there might be something better now... hopefully. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 8-Sep-09, at 7:59 PM, anouk radix wrote: Hey Erik, i will have to do a good google search on this one tomorrow. I mean it owuld b elogical that htere would be an emulator for the apple ii that runs on leopard and then it might run on sl. I will have to check into this and will get back tot he list later, i myself too enjoyed the eamon games especially the more complex ones. Greetings, Anouk On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:40 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Anouk, I bug about this once every three to six months or so. Somewhere around my house and two storage locations there is a disk with 250 eamon adventures on apple Ii floppy disk images. It would be finominal to play them again. I have about 20 adventures for dos, but playing them in dos, in my windows vm, on my mac, is well just a bit of silly overkill. I would love to have a nice apple emulater to load up these old disk images and get all the games. Then I might never leave my house again, only just sit rivitted to my mac playing text adventures, grins. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 5-Sep-09, at 7:57 AM, anouk radix wrote: Hello, I remember playing eamon games in my dos days about 10 years ago. Are there any apple ii emulators for snow leopard? Greetings, Anouk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
Oh, definitely! I just figure it's probably worth writing to accessibility to suggest it for a future update. Cheers, Donna On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Charlie Doremus wrote: Good point Donna. I never looked at it from that position. Maybe Apple will get enough feedback and add this feature to their next update. The steps Apple has taken have been great for blind and low vision folks, but you have to remeber that Rome wasn't built in a day and baby steps are far better then no steps at all. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu wrote: Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed. It wouldn't impact their useage in any way. Donna From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self- service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
Hi Esther, From the info that went out re the update, it didn't sound like they did. If so, that of course changes the issue. Cheers, Donna On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Donna, I think the problem is that sighted users also use the triple click of the home button. It just does something else for them on the iPhone. (Not sure about this though) Cheers, Esther Donna Goodin wrote: Yeah, but sighted customers would never even have to know this feature existed. It wouldn't impact their useage in any way. Donna From: Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone VO home button oddity The market audience for the iPhone is 99% sighted and sadly they have more clout. I understand your point, it is a big step in the right direction. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self- service experience? CB -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: iTunes is Buggy?
Let me just say on the Windows side of things, the problem you describe with the list view not reading has been present sense 8.2. I dono what the deal is, but Apple's really starting to piss? me off! They told me the same? garbage, that o, we aren't having thiws problem either. Go get someone sighted to hold your hand, change your dighppie, and show you how to spoonfeed yourself, sota speak. It's like, look, idiots? We're not stupid. We're not gonna tell you about a bug, if it's not really there. Now Cara, before you say anything, and to quit downing Apple on list, allow me to defend myself. I by far! am not! the first person who had this issue. I spoke to a product specialist named Steve Whyte, who worked with me for about half a week, on this, said he would escolate things, then apparently never did. Every time I'd call him to check the status, I'd leave message after message. He never e-mailed me back, never called me back, never had anyone else! contact me on his behalf, I was left unknown. I finally just totally gave up. I pretty much have almost ditched ITunes and went back to WinAmp. I'm sorry, but, if that's how Apple wants to be regarding this, then screw it! I got an mp3 player on my T-Mobile dash 3G which doesn't require ITunes, and I got a subscription to Napster, so it's not like I can't buy music. I'm just totally saddened though that Apple's not working any better to fix some a these bugs, especially when they've promised for now about 2 builds plus one version, that they'd do so. I pretty well put my Nano 4th gen in a drore, and hardly use it now for this reason. I do use it some, but not much. Chris. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Dupuis Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:37 AM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: iTunes is Buggy? Yes, I've had exactly the same experience, and it's really frustrating. It's especially annoying when I'm trying to get to an artist (or album) near the middle of the alphabet! Also, if you insert a CD to import and more than one match is found online, you can no longer access the list of choices as in the past. Instead, you encounter the dread unknown and are stuck in never-never land. I was hoping these would be fixed in last night's update. Maybe next time? On Sep 11, 2:41 am, Justin Kauflin justin.kauf...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'd like to hear about everyone's experience of iTunes 9. I've been having some problems with some bugs, and am wondering if these are actual bugs, or I'm just doing something wrong. First off, I cannot arrow through the songs as I could in Leopard with the older iTunes. When I am in list mode and have the browser active, I am unable to get Voice Over to announce anything while I arrow through the lists. It actually doesn't even move the cursor. In addition to this, I am unable to type any letters to have the cursor move to a particular artist or album title. I wrote to Apple, and they said they weren't encountering this problem. I'd like to see if anyone is experiencing this? I am a big fan of iTunes, and am a bit frustrated with these bugs. Thanks for any feedback. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
restoring phone to default in itunes?
Hi all, Sorry to have to ask this. I've done it on my PC, but not on my Mac. How do I tell itunes to restore my phone to factory defaults. I'm trying to get it to sync only with my Mac. I've VOed around, and don't see a tab for it, I've also looked in the menus. Appreciate any help. Best, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
I agree with you. i personally don't like ITunes, and although Apple have done a fantastic job there are other issues which they have not yet fixed which I feel should be addressed However, in their defense, the Accessibility team at Apple is very small and we are not after all Apple's majority market concern. Take care James - Original Message - From: Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 1:59 PM Subject: RE: iTunes is Buggy? Let me just say on the Windows side of things, the problem you describe with the list view not reading has been present sense 8.2. I dono what the deal is, but Apple's really starting to piss? me off! They told me the same? garbage, that o, we aren't having thiws problem either. Go get someone sighted to hold your hand, change your dighppie, and show you how to spoonfeed yourself, sota speak. It's like, look, idiots? We're not stupid. We're not gonna tell you about a bug, if it's not really there. Now Cara, before you say anything, and to quit downing Apple on list, allow me to defend myself. I by far! am not! the first person who had this issue. I spoke to a product specialist named Steve Whyte, who worked with me for about half a week, on this, said he would escolate things, then apparently never did. Every time I'd call him to check the status, I'd leave message after message. He never e-mailed me back, never called me back, never had anyone else! contact me on his behalf, I was left unknown. I finally just totally gave up. I pretty much have almost ditched ITunes and went back to WinAmp. I'm sorry, but, if that's how Apple wants to be regarding this, then screw it! I got an mp3 player on my T-Mobile dash 3G which doesn't require ITunes, and I got a subscription to Napster, so it's not like I can't buy music. I'm just totally saddened though that Apple's not working any better to fix some a these bugs, especially when they've promised for now about 2 builds plus one version, that they'd do so. I pretty well put my Nano 4th gen in a drore, and hardly use it now for this reason. I do use it some, but not much. Chris. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Howard Dupuis Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:37 AM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: iTunes is Buggy? Yes, I've had exactly the same experience, and it's really frustrating. It's especially annoying when I'm trying to get to an artist (or album) near the middle of the alphabet! Also, if you insert a CD to import and more than one match is found online, you can no longer access the list of choices as in the past. Instead, you encounter the dread unknown and are stuck in never-never land. I was hoping these would be fixed in last night's update. Maybe next time? On Sep 11, 2:41 am, Justin Kauflin justin.kauf...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'd like to hear about everyone's experience of iTunes 9. I've been having some problems with some bugs, and am wondering if these are actual bugs, or I'm just doing something wrong. First off, I cannot arrow through the songs as I could in Leopard with the older iTunes. When I am in list mode and have the browser active, I am unable to get Voice Over to announce anything while I arrow through the lists. It actually doesn't even move the cursor. In addition to this, I am unable to type any letters to have the cursor move to a particular artist or album title. I wrote to Apple, and they said they weren't encountering this problem. I'd like to see if anyone is experiencing this? I am a big fan of iTunes, and am a bit frustrated with these bugs. Thanks for any feedback. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: iTunes playlist browser and keyboard shortcuts
The songs list don't work in windows either, and as I said, when I wrote them, they were not very helpful. One rep even went as far as to say, why should we help you if you're not using our product. I'm like egg, ***ing skeuze me? I'm using ITunes, that's? your product! Thank you very greatly? It's like, you're using Windows. Why should we support so a junky OS. those were there exact words, and when I asked for a supervisor, he said, well, though I don't agree with how the rep worded it, I agree totally with her concept. We're not fixing something that isn't for our OS. Can I feel a petition.com coming on? Chris. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Kauflin Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:26 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: iTunes playlist browser and keyboard shortcuts Just to update, it seems that the playlist broser bug with VO has not been resolved with iTunes 9. What a bummer. I will definitely be writing to Apple about this. It is extremely annoying not to be able to do this... I have found that you can't tab into the playlist browser like you used to either... I'd really like to get this back. Scott Howell wrote: Justin, the f7 etc. keys is not new and if you were to change your function keys to be software function keys, you'd have to add fn to get the same results. It is a very handy feature indeed. As far as the browser issue, this is without a doubt something that got broken and not sure how/reason, but it is quite broken and I encourage folks to let the iTunes crew know and accessibil...@apple.com folks know as well. This was working and is still working fine under Leopard, so don't know what happen. Thanks for the clarification Justin. On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote: Scott, I am also talking about the browser list. The sources list works fine. I have found that I have to use VO commands to get anything to be read aloud. The interesting thing is that when I stop interacting with the browser list and type the letter of the desired artist or album, it will go to it when I interact with the list again. Its a very buggy way to do things I think, but I've found that it works. Also, I don't know if this is a new thing, but I've noticed that if I just press F8, it acts as a play/pause button for iTunes no matter where I am on the computer. The F7 and F9 keys act as a previous and next button respectively. Just something new for me I guess. Hope you have luck with the browser lists. Justin Scott Howell wrote: Justin are you referring to the browser or the sources list. I've not had a problem with the sources list where the music library, podcasts, etc. are located. The browser that will let you select genre, album, or artist, is giving me some real headaches in that it no longer speaks. On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:49 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote: I will second this problem. Whenever I interact with the playlist browser and press a key like r for radiohead, it actually forces the cursor to the albums list. Very strange and a bit annoying, as the way it worked in Leopard was just fine. Its also a bit annoying that I have to interact with each list in order to move the cursor down the list. I used to be able to tab to the list and scroll through it with the arrow keys... Ah well, still think the update is quite nice. There will always be bugs with new things. Just figured I'd chime in as well. And actually, I have found that if you are in the list you want to navigate through, you can stop interacting and type the key you'd like to get to and then re-interact with the list, it will take you to that item. Annoying, but works. Justin Howard Dupuis wrote: It's possible, of course, that I'm doing something wrong, but I've not been able to use the playlist browser in iTunes in the way that I used to before Snow Leopard. The browser is a list -- genres, artists, albums. Before SL, I could just interact with the list and then hit a key that would take me to the artist or album that began with that letter. Looking for Talking Heads? Interact with the browser, arrow over to artists, hit the t key, and there you are. But not so under Snow Leopard. Hit the t key -- or any other, for that matter -- and nothing happens. Anyone else notice this? Is there an easy way around it? (Or a difficult way, even?) Thanks, all. Howard (a very new member) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
I would have to disagree. The I phone is designed for the general population. by removing one of the gestures you are there by removing some of the sighted users accessability. we are a limited population and by making voiceover available by means of I tunes it maximizes accessability with out anoying the majority of their sales. could you picture a sighted person haveing all of their gestures respond differently? WTF would probably be the first words out of their mouths. On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: great question and suggestion. tell apple through their accessibility section. Take care, Max On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self- service experience? CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPhone VO home button oddity
Is there a tripple click cmd for non VO users? I have a sighted friend who uses VO while driving. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:36, peter apgar pap...@gmavt.net wrote: I would have to disagree. The I phone is designed for the general population. by removing one of the gestures you are there by removing some of the sighted users accessability. we are a limited population and by making voiceover available by means of I tunes it maximizes accessability with out anoying the majority of their sales. could you picture a sighted person haveing all of their gestures respond differently? WTF would probably be the first words out of their mouths. On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: great question and suggestion. tell apple through their accessibility section. Take care, Max On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: So I upgraded my iPhone to the 3.1 OS which now has the option to have a triple click of the home button toggle VO on or off. Great if you want to quick set an iPhone back to the regular gesture system for somebody else to use and then get VO back on again. What seems odd to me is that this feature isn't enabled by default. So that means the out of the box experience still requires sighted assistance to turn on VO the first time. From there the triple home click preference can be set to toggle VO. Why not ship it that way from the factory for a truly self- service experience? CB --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Navigating and opening applications on your Mac [was Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications]
Hi, Just to add my two cents worth, my favorite way of navigating in Finder is to press the shortcut key that gets me closest to what I want, such as Command-Shift-C for Computer or Command-Shift-H for Home, interacting with the scroll area in list view, and using Command and Up or Down Arrow. Command-Down Arrow opens whatever folder you're focused on, and Command-Up Arrow backs you out a level. If I'm going to move between different places frequently, such as when copying material from several folders onto a victor Stream, I open a new Finder window for one of the folders with Command-N and switch between the windows with Command-Accent. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Hi, I installed the update last night. There were two, one for the OS and one for printer drivers. The total was around 120 MB if I remember right. I just checked out the What's New section of VO help, but didn't see anything specific to this update. It looks to me like the documentation that was written for Snow Leopard. I just changed the mouse setting so that the mouse follows the VO cursor and was able to navigate some menus, so that problem may be fixed. Spell checking in Mail by typing VO-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M doesn't work, however. I see no improvements to itunes navigation either. I've only been working with this for an hour though, so I could certainly have missed things. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, James Nash wrote: I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in VO help. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
Wait a minute here. What I was referring to -- and I think this is what the original poster meant, too -- are things that used to work but now do not. Before Snow Leopard, I could go to the playlist browser, interact with it, and then just use the down arrow *or* hit a key to take me down the list. Looking for albums by an artist whose name starts with L? Just type the letter l and there'd you'd be, right on the first. If you wanted Lyle Lovett instead of Led Zeppelin, you'd just down arrow a few times to get what you wanted. Under Snow Leopard, this has stopped working. I've got more than 250 artists, so trying to get to the middle of that list without that feature is something of a drag. I'm not asking for something new; I just want what we used to have. Also, and for whatever it's worth, in general, I'm absolutely loving Snow Leopard. Not seeking alternatives; just looking for a tweak or three. On Sep 11, 2:41 am, Justin Kauflin justin.kauf...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'd like to hear about everyone's experience of iTunes 9. I've been having some problems with some bugs, and am wondering if these are actual bugs, or I'm just doing something wrong. First off, I cannot arrow through the songs as I could in Leopard with the older iTunes. When I am in list mode and have the browser active, I am unable to get Voice Over to announce anything while I arrow through the lists. It actually doesn't even move the cursor. In addition to this, I am unable to type any letters to have the cursor move to a particular artist or album title. I wrote to Apple, and they said they weren't encountering this problem. I'd like to see if anyone is experiencing this? I am a big fan of iTunes, and am a bit frustrated with these bugs. Thanks for any feedback. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Thanks for the clarification Anna. Nice ot see that the ouse cursor issue might be fixed. How is the reading of messages with VO now? Take care James - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it Hi, I installed the update last night. There were two, one for the OS and one for printer drivers. The total was around 120 MB if I remember right. I just checked out the What's New section of VO help, but didn't see anything specific to this update. It looks to me like the documentation that was written for Snow Leopard. I just changed the mouse setting so that the mouse follows the VO cursor and was able to navigate some menus, so that problem may be fixed. Spell checking in Mail by typing VO-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M doesn't work, however. I see no improvements to itunes navigation either. I've only been working with this for an hour though, so I could certainly have missed things. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, James Nash wrote: I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in VO help. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
Hi, I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the column browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to interact again. iTunes 9 seems really shaky; sometimes something works, and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks to Google, I did figure out how to get albums to show as well as artists in the new Column browser, the iTunes 9 successor to the playlist browser. Once you turn on the browser with Command-B, go to the View menu. There's a Column Browser submenu where you can check or uncheck columns such as artist, album, and genre. You can also change the location of the browser; it can be on the top or on the left of the screen. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on accessibility. Another area for serious concern is that there appears to be no way to move between different sections of the iTunes window. Ironically, navigation is better in Windows in this area; in Windows F6 takes you between the Source list, the search box, and the track list. With itunes 8, Tab served some of this function; at least it usually took me to the Source list and search box. Tab sometimes does something with iTunes 9, but often it has no effect at all. It's tedious and time-consuming to have to VO-arrow through every control to get to what you want. Finally, while access to the store is certainly better on the Mac than in Windows, it leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone figured out a way to get around in a long list of songs and preview the ones they want? I searched for the Essential Michael Jackson and got a table which, if I VO-Right Arrow through it, shows one song after another, with preview images, song titles, and buy buttons. However, if I try to interact with the table so I can move up and down a column to see quickly what the tracks are, it doesn't work. The table is reported as containing only three rows, which is obviously ridiculous, and all I see is the preview for the first track and the buy button for the last. I've tried the regular VO interact command and also VO-Equals, but neither works. Furthermore, pressing Enter on a Preview image results in unpredictable behavior. sometimes I am asked if I want to buy a track, and sometimes a different page entirely loads. I plan to write all this to accessibil...@apple.com, but I'd like confirmation of the problems first. It's ironic that Apple improved the accessibility of the Mac and iPhone but decreased it significantly in iTunes. I think the more constructive comments they hear from the more people, the better. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
garbage in address book
Hi all, When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards. Now, as I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines of XML junk characters presumably inserted By Windows. Anyone know how I can get rid of this stuff? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Hi James, Messages are reading automatically when I press VO-J so far. We'll see what happens when I run Fusion and Windows. Seems like that function usually broke when I switched between Windows and Mac programs. Not always, but more consistently than any other correlation I could find. best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:37 AM, James Nash wrote: Thanks for the clarification Anna. Nice ot see that the ouse cursor issue might be fixed. How is the reading of messages with VO now? Take care James - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it Hi, I installed the update last night. There were two, one for the OS and one for printer drivers. The total was around 120 MB if I remember right. I just checked out the What's New section of VO help, but didn't see anything specific to this update. It looks to me like the documentation that was written for Snow Leopard. I just changed the mouse setting so that the mouse follows the VO cursor and was able to navigate some menus, so that problem may be fixed. Spell checking in Mail by typing VO-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M doesn't work, however. I see no improvements to itunes navigation either. I've only been working with this for an hour though, so I could certainly have missed things. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, James Nash wrote: I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I read from articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. Apple have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's New in VO help. Take care James - Original Message - From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
creating folders
Hi everyone. Can someone please tell me how I go about creating folders on my mac? I want to move all my school stuff to my mac machine but can't figure out how to make folders and for that matter where they are, smile. Also, how do I delete a file I created? I tried pressing delete on the file but it doesn't do anything, thanks. May, now using my MacBook --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: creating folders
Hi May, To create a new folder, open the folder in which you want your new one and press Command-Shift-N, type a folder name, and press Return. To delete a file or folder, focus on it and press Command-Delete. Remember that the key the mac calls Delete is called Backspace in Windows. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: creating folders
Yes, that part I do remember, thanks. Is a little confusing still for me at the moment, but I'm getting there. May, now using my MacBook - Original Message - From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:18 AM Subject: Re: creating folders Hi May, To create a new folder, open the folder in which you want your new one and press Command-Shift-N, type a folder name, and press Return. To delete a file or folder, focus on it and press Command-Delete. Remember that the key the mac calls Delete is called Backspace in Windows. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
Hello One thing I can say is that the tab key sort of works under the mac. The thing about it is that it is not disabled, but that it is just not working with vo. This goes back to the issue of the broken cursor tracking in iTunes. The keyboard cursor is moving through the lists, its just that vo is not reading what is under it. Justin On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the column browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to interact again. iTunes 9 seems really shaky; sometimes something works, and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks to Google, I did figure out how to get albums to show as well as artists in the new Column browser, the iTunes 9 successor to the playlist browser. Once you turn on the browser with Command-B, go to the View menu. There's a Column Browser submenu where you can check or uncheck columns such as artist, album, and genre. You can also change the location of the browser; it can be on the top or on the left of the screen. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on accessibility. Another area for serious concern is that there appears to be no way to move between different sections of the iTunes window. Ironically, navigation is better in Windows in this area; in Windows F6 takes you between the Source list, the search box, and the track list. With itunes 8, Tab served some of this function; at least it usually took me to the Source list and search box. Tab sometimes does something with iTunes 9, but often it has no effect at all. It's tedious and time-consuming to have to VO-arrow through every control to get to what you want. Finally, while access to the store is certainly better on the Mac than in Windows, it leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone figured out a way to get around in a long list of songs and preview the ones they want? I searched for the Essential Michael Jackson and got a table which, if I VO-Right Arrow through it, shows one song after another, with preview images, song titles, and buy buttons. However, if I try to interact with the table so I can move up and down a column to see quickly what the tracks are, it doesn't work. The table is reported as containing only three rows, which is obviously ridiculous, and all I see is the preview for the first track and the buy button for the last. I've tried the regular VO interact command and also VO-Equals, but neither works. Furthermore, pressing Enter on a Preview image results in unpredictable behavior. sometimes I am asked if I want to buy a track, and sometimes a different page entirely loads. I plan to write all this to accessibil...@apple.com, but I'd like confirmation of the problems first. It's ironic that Apple improved the accessibility of the Mac and iPhone but decreased it significantly in iTunes. I think the more constructive comments they hear from the more people, the better. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
Thanks, Justin. This will make it easier to explain what's going on when I send my note to accessibil...@apple.com. It probably also explains why sometimes the arrows and tab key seem to do something and sometimes they don't. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: Hello One thing I can say is that the tab key sort of works under the mac. The thing about it is that it is not disabled, but that it is just not working with vo. This goes back to the issue of the broken cursor tracking in iTunes. The keyboard cursor is moving through the lists, its just that vo is not reading what is under it. Justin On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the column browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to interact again. iTunes 9 seems really shaky; sometimes something works, and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks to Google, I did figure out how to get albums to show as well as artists in the new Column browser, the iTunes 9 successor to the playlist browser. Once you turn on the browser with Command-B, go to the View menu. There's a Column Browser submenu where you can check or uncheck columns such as artist, album, and genre. You can also change the location of the browser; it can be on the top or on the left of the screen. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on accessibility. Another area for serious concern is that there appears to be no way to move between different sections of the iTunes window. Ironically, navigation is better in Windows in this area; in Windows F6 takes you between the Source list, the search box, and the track list. With itunes 8, Tab served some of this function; at least it usually took me to the Source list and search box. Tab sometimes does something with iTunes 9, but often it has no effect at all. It's tedious and time-consuming to have to VO-arrow through every control to get to what you want. Finally, while access to the store is certainly better on the Mac than in Windows, it leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone figured out a way to get around in a long list of songs and preview the ones they want? I searched for the Essential Michael Jackson and got a table which, if I VO-Right Arrow through it, shows one song after another, with preview images, song titles, and buy buttons. However, if I try to interact with the table so I can move up and down a column to see quickly what the tracks are, it doesn't work. The table is reported as containing only three rows, which is obviously ridiculous, and all I see is the preview for the first track and the buy button for the last. I've tried the regular VO interact command and also VO-Equals, but neither works. Furthermore, pressing Enter on a Preview image results in unpredictable behavior. sometimes I am asked if I want to buy a track, and sometimes a different page entirely loads. I plan to write all this to accessibil...@apple.com, but I'd like confirmation of the problems first. It's ironic that Apple improved the accessibility of the Mac and iPhone but decreased it significantly in iTunes. I think the more constructive comments they hear from the more people, the better. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
speeding up podcasts
Hi all, Is there a way in itunes to here podcasts faster? I've searched and have not found a way to speed them up. Thanks, C;hristina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
showing all tweets in Syrinx
Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: showing all tweets in Syrinx
hi; use escape mike On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: showing all tweets in Syrinx
Hi Mike, It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; use escape mike On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: showing all tweets in Syrinx
hi; no problem mike On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi Mike, It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; use escape mike On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: iTunes is Buggy?
You just tought me! something! I didn't know f6 would jump me between the fields in Itunes 9 on windows. God, that's gonna make my life easier, if it works! Chris. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes is Buggy? Hi, I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the column browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to interact again. iTunes 9 seems really shaky; sometimes something works, and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks to Google, I did figure out how to get albums to show as well as artists in the new Column browser, the iTunes 9 successor to the playlist browser. Once you turn on the browser with Command-B, go to the View menu. There's a Column Browser submenu where you can check or uncheck columns such as artist, album, and genre. You can also change the location of the browser; it can be on the top or on the left of the screen. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on accessibility. Another area for serious concern is that there appears to be no way to move between different sections of the iTunes window. Ironically, navigation is better in Windows in this area; in Windows F6 takes you between the Source list, the search box, and the track list. With itunes 8, Tab served some of this function; at least it usually took me to the Source list and search box. Tab sometimes does something with iTunes 9, but often it has no effect at all. It's tedious and time-consuming to have to VO-arrow through every control to get to what you want. Finally, while access to the store is certainly better on the Mac than in Windows, it leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone figured out a way to get around in a long list of songs and preview the ones they want? I searched for the Essential Michael Jackson and got a table which, if I VO-Right Arrow through it, shows one song after another, with preview images, song titles, and buy buttons. However, if I try to interact with the table so I can move up and down a column to see quickly what the tracks are, it doesn't work. The table is reported as containing only three rows, which is obviously ridiculous, and all I see is the preview for the first track and the buy button for the last. I've tried the regular VO interact command and also VO-Equals, but neither works. Furthermore, pressing Enter on a Preview image results in unpredictable behavior. sometimes I am asked if I want to buy a track, and sometimes a different page entirely loads. I plan to write all this to accessibil...@apple.com, but I'd like confirmation of the problems first. It's ironic that Apple improved the accessibility of the Mac and iPhone but decreased it significantly in iTunes. I think the more constructive comments they hear from the more people, the better. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Help with outgoing mail please
Hello all, For some reason I cannot send email from the mac on either of my mail accounts. I have checked the settings for both accounts several times, and they both appear to be correct. The error message I am getting is something to the effect of: Cannot send email address from server X. User Y was rejected by the server. Select another server or save message to retry later. If anyone could help, I'd be really grateful Thanks, Donna -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: showing all tweets in Syrinx Hi Mike, It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; use escape mike On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help with outgoing mail please
Have you upgraded to 0.6.1? There was a bug in outgoing mail that Apple fixed with this update. Go to the apple menu and find software update. Jon On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hello all, For some reason I cannot send email from the mac on either of my mail accounts. I have checked the settings for both accounts several times, and they both appear to be correct. The error message I am getting is something to the effect of: Cannot send email address from server X. User Y was rejected by the server. Select another server or save message to retry later. If anyone could help, I'd be really grateful Thanks, Donna -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: showing all tweets in Syrinx Hi Mike, It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; use escape mike On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garbage in address book
how did you import your contacts over? I'm still trying to figure that out lol. On 2009-09-11, at 12:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards. Now, as I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines of XML junk characters presumably inserted By Windows. Anyone know how I can get rid of this stuff? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help with mail please, reply to John C.
Hi John, Yes I did the upgrade and that didn't help. I've had one account that has never worked. Unfortunately, that's my work account, which puts a real big crimp in my ability to use the Mac for work stuff. The problem with the other account started this afternoon when I accidentally deleted my servers from my server list. I have put them back, but now they don't work. Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: garbage in address book
Well, I'm not sure I'd recommend doing it the way I did. :) After a lot of mucking around in Outlook--I'm using Outlook 2007--I found a way to export as VCard. It's kind of hidden, and I'm not sure I could recreate it. But like I said, I got all this XML in my address book. I would try just exporting them as txt with Comma separators, and see if you can import them that way. Good luck! Donna -Original Message- From: Jessi and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:51 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: garbage in address book how did you import your contacts over? I'm still trying to figure that out lol. On 2009-09-11, at 12:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards. Now, as I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines of XML junk characters presumably inserted By Windows. Anyone know how I can get rid of this stuff? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Am I still On This LIst?
Sorry folks, just checking, seems all of a sudden I'm not getting messages from this list. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Am I still On This LIst?
your coming threw loud and clear smiles - Original Message - From: Dave McLean To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: Am I still On This LIst? Sorry folks, just checking, seems all of a sudden I'm not getting messages from this list. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Making playlists in iTunes 9
Hi all: Another bug in the new iTunes. When creating a new playlist, the Songs list table isn't shown and there's a line of text that tells you to drag your selections. Any work arounds to this? In previous versions of iTunes, you could go command A to select the songs you want to add, command C to copy and then command V to paste them in to the newly created pl. All previously version playlists I have came across fine, can see the songs tables. Maybe the new VO features in SL takes care of that! (LOL) Better get to it. (LOL) Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garbage in address book
Hi, I installed Thunderbird on my Windows machine, imported all my mail into it, then copied the folder containing the mail to my Mac and used its import options to import from thunderbird. I did more or less the same thing with my address book, but there was an additional step of saving the address book to a different format before importing it into Mail. I can't remember what format it was, unfortunately. I followed the steps in David Pogue's Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual, available from Bookshare. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Security question about standard account
Hi folks, As I have said before, for my daily computing needs I use a standard account. however, I have a question. Is there a way of disabling the request by Mac OS X which brings up a dialogue to enter an admin username and password when wanting to effect system changes please? I'm asking because of course, i know my admin details and as i'm able to enter them in the dialogue to do what i want, it seems to negate the security measure of a standard acount? Is this making any sense? Thanks Take care James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
work-around for finding the artist you want
Hi, Thanks to the comment earlier about focus changing when you move around the Column Browser but VO not being aware of it, I found a way to locate an artist you want by typing a few letters. It's a bit tedious, but it works consistently. 1. Go to the View menu and ensure that at least two columns are checked in the column Browser submenu. I suggest Artist and Album. 2. Interact with the Artist column. 3. type the first few letters of the artist's name you want to move to. 4. Stop interacting with the browser, and immediately start interacting again. VO speaks the name of the first artist whose name begins with the letters you typed. 5. If you need to move down from there to a different artist, press Tab to move to the list of albums by the current artist, then Shift- Tab to the artists list. 6. Use VO-Down Arrow to move down from there. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] Screenless Switchers/Mac-cessibility Special Edition Podcast - Squeaky Dolphin Noises
Screenless Switchers/Mac-cessibility Special Edition Podcast - Squeaky Dolphin Noises In this special joint episode of the Screenless Switchers and Mac-cessibility Round Table podcasts, our knights discuss the Apple media event on 9/9/09, just after it ended, including VoiceOver on the new iPod Touch, the new iPod models, and iPhone OS 3.1. (We'll discuss the accessibility changes in the new iPhone OS in depth on [...] You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/09/11/screenless-switchersmac-cessibility-special-edition-podcast-squeaky-dolphin-noises/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
So it's not just me, and I'm not just crazy? In the version of Itunes before this, all I had to do was tab into the browser, to the field I wanted, hit the first few letters, use plain down or up arrows to do the fine tuning. I don't see this as being more VO friendly, and I want my old version back! :( Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
very odd
hi the 10.6.1 update was only ten megabytes for me and according to my system i up to date --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
I have not upgraded my itunes yet. I don't plan to at this time. So, this is just a thought and I do not know if this works. What about using the item chooser menu to find the son/artist you are looking for in the songs table. vo plus i Then type the first letters of the artist or song then hit enter when you find the one you want. Well, this is just a thought and I do not know if this item chooser works in itunes. Best of luck, Christina On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:46 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: Hi, Thanks to the comment earlier about focus changing when you move around the Column Browser but VO not being aware of it, I found a way to locate an artist you want by typing a few letters. It's a bit tedious, but it works consistently. 1. Go to the View menu and ensure that at least two columns are checked in the column Browser submenu. I suggest Artist and Album. 2. Interact with the Artist column. 3. type the first few letters of the artist's name you want to move to. 4. Stop interacting with the browser, and immediately start interacting again. VO speaks the name of the first artist whose name begins with the letters you typed. 5. If you need to move down from there to a different artist, press Tab to move to the list of albums by the current artist, then Shift- Tab to the artists list. 6. Use VO-Down Arrow to move down from there. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Security question about standard account
Hi James, You always have to authorize system changes from an admin user account. If you perform system updates, and are using an account with admin privileges, you'll be prompted to enter your password. If you perform maintenance tasks through commands issued from terminal (even from an account with admin privileges) you will be told that you don't have permission to execute these -- you need to prefix the command with sudo to log in with superuser (admin) privileges as in: sudo periodic weekly to manually run the weekly maintenance tasks. Then you'll be prompted for your admin password. James, if you weren't prompted for an admin user name and password, you would have to log out of your account entirely an log into an admin account to make system changes. The point of working from a standard user account is not to avoid having to avoid and admin log in, since these actions are encrypted. The main reason for working from a standard account is that you won't be able to inadvertently make major changes to your system using your power as an admin user. For example, you won't be able to delete fundamental system applications while you're learning to navigate the Mac for the first time and work with files -- just because your focus was on the wrong file when you pressed your delete key. It's actually standard practice in linux and unix that you don't log directly into the root account for the system. You set up user accounts with root privilege, and even then most users work from their regular accounts and only log in as superuser to their root accounts (by typing su instead of sudo) when they need to perform changes that require system privileges. Hope this helps. Cheers, Esther James Nash wrote: As I have said before, for my daily computing needs I use a standard account. however, I have a question. Is there a way of disabling the request by Mac OS X which brings up a dialogue to enter an admin username and password when wanting to effect system changes please? I'm asking because of course, i know my admin details and as i'm able to enter them in the dialogue to do what i want, it seems to negate the security measure of a standard acount? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
That was a great idea. Unfortunately, I just tried it and it doesn't produce intelligible results. VO just says Scroll area, and won't let me interact or find anything else out. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garbage in address book
Oh, gee, I didn't even think of an Apple Script. Yeah, it's always in Notes, and I've been editing it out manually. Thanks! Donna On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Is the XML in a consistent place? If so, an AppleScript could easily fix it... Jon On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, I'm not sure I'd recommend doing it the way I did. :) After a lot of mucking around in Outlook--I'm using Outlook 2007--I found a way to export as VCard. It's kind of hidden, and I'm not sure I could recreate it. But like I said, I got all this XML in my address book. I would try just exporting them as txt with Comma separators, and see if you can import them that way. Good luck! Donna -Original Message- From: Jessi and Goldina sanginsista3...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:51 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: garbage in address book how did you import your contacts over? I'm still trying to figure that out lol. On 2009-09-11, at 12:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, When I imported my contacts over from my PC, I used VCards. Now, as I'm looking in the address book, I noticed that there are these lines of XML junk characters presumably inserted By Windows. Anyone know how I can get rid of this stuff? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
Thanks for this. One point, if I may: This is an issue with Snow Leopard, not with iTunes. Note the following (my original post) begun fully nine days before the new iTunes became available. http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/browse_thread/thread/d1ad1102a4c44bdf/0001163b2674128a?lnk=gstq=playlist+browser#0001163b2674128a Not that this makes this any less of a problem, mind you, but I just wanted to try to keep the focus where it belongs. On Sep 11, 3:46 pm, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote: Hi, Thanks to the comment earlier about focus changing when you move around the Column Browser but VO not being aware of it, I found a way to locate an artist you want by typing a few letters. It's a bit tedious, but it works consistently. 1. Go to the View menu and ensure that at least two columns are checked in the column Browser submenu. I suggest Artist and Album. 2. Interact with the Artist column. 3. type the first few letters of the artist's name you want to move to. 4. Stop interacting with the browser, and immediately start interacting again. VO speaks the name of the first artist whose name begins with the letters you typed. 5. If you need to move down from there to a different artist, press Tab to move to the list of albums by the current artist, then Shift- Tab to the artists list. 6. Use VO-Down Arrow to move down from there. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
shoot! Being able to just start typing and having the cursor jump where I want to go has been a huge helper and so it's hard to imagine itunes without it. Hm On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: That was a great idea. Unfortunately, I just tried it and it doesn't produce intelligible results. VO just says Scroll area, and won't let me interact or find anything else out. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wondering about convertion of Aiff files to compressed files for ipod
You can have both flavors in your library other than taking up a pile of space. I have an iPhone, not an iPod, but I assume they handle the same stuff. I generally encode to MP3 instead of AAC since that is more portable outside the Apple ecosphere. You can pick a set of files and then choose Create XX version from the Advanced menu where XX will be whatever format you chose to encode to in preferences. If you imported everything as AIFF then you'll probably have to change the import settings. mp3s, even at high data rates, are about 10% the size of AIFF. AIFF is pretty much uncompressed short of the 44Khz 16bit limitations. I guess audiophiles would want 24 bit 192Khz but most of us couldn't spare that much disk space. CB Jesper Holten wrote: Hi everybody. With the release of Ipod touch, I now have to face the issue of converting my itunes library to something that is handled nicely on the Ipod. My itunes Library files are uncompressed Aiff files, and I will have to convert that into e.g. Aac compressed audio that plays on the ipod. Is that done automaticly when syncing the ipod with my Imac or do I have to do something to ease the process? Thanks for any help you can provide! /Jesper. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Time capsule
Hi, I have just bought Time Capsule and started setting up. Time machine has found TC and backs up no problem. However should I be seeing Time capsule in my finder as a volume so I can get in to it and go through its file structures etc. I also want to run my Itunes library from Time Capsule so as not to clutter up my hard drive with loads of music. I've went in to Itunes 9 preffs advanced and tried to get Itunes to put my library on TC. However when ever I click on to Time papsule in the list of places I can store my library once i tab away and come back again the selection has reverted back to my Mac HD. Can anyone offer me any advice/help? Best Graham --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ?
I've only had snow leopard installed for a couple of days, so I'm still learning the ins and outs of it. Thus far, however, I haven't noticed any perceptible difference in features or the way it behaves. On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, claire amoroso wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there are any improvments made in Snow Leopard as regard to the application Zoom ? I would like to know if the keyboard focus was enhanced also. Thanks, Claire Vous cherchez l'intégrale des clips de Michael Jackson ? Bing ! Trouvez !http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Michael+JacksonFORM=MVDE6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: two more questions
Three ways I've found to get there. 1. The way I use most is apple-shift-a to open the applications folder and then type s a f which jumps focus to Safari and then apple-o to open it. You can do this with any application or use apple-shift-u to go to utilities. 2. VO-d to jump to the dock and then s a f to jump to Safari and then hit return to launch it. This assumes you have Safari in your dock, which is the default installed setup. 3. Apple-space to bring up spotlight and then type in Safari. Arrow down to the search results and it should be the top hit. Once focus in on Safari hit enter to activate it. There could be other ways but I pretty much stick to #1 as it is pretty fast and you can get to all the apps that way. CB May and Wynter wrote: Ok, I'm not doing to bad over here, smile. 1. Is there a quick way to start safari? 2. Can someone send me instructions on how to use IWorks? I need to do an assignment for class and I'd like to try doing it on my Mac. May, I finally have my MacBook, yay!! blog: www.true-friends2009.com http://www.true-friends2009.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ?
I have noticed a problem for me since I upgraded to SL. Maybe someone here has a fix. I used to be able to use command plus option plus control plus 8 to switch between white on black and black on white. Now I cannot get that keyboard shortcut to do a thing. I really can't see much but it's much easier on the eyes to have it on white on black for me even though I'm not reading the screen. However, I often need to switch it back to black on white and I can no longer easily do this on the fly. Christina On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote: I've only had snow leopard installed for a couple of days, so I'm still learning the ins and outs of it. Thus far, however, I haven't noticed any perceptible difference in features or the way it behaves. On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, claire amoroso wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there are any improvments made in Snow Leopard as regard to the application Zoom ? I would like to know if the keyboard focus was enhanced also. Thanks, Claire Vous cherchez l'intégrale des clips de Michael Jackson ? Bing ! Trouvez ! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
I am running Leopard, and have the same issue; doesn't this make it more an Itunes bug? Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Am I on This List
I also stopped getting mail some time yesterday afternoon. I also posted a question last evening which I assume went to the list, but again, I've gotten no mail for about a day. Advice, please. Les __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4417 (20090911) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Hi, I still get the problem of vo stoping at the end of each line rather then at the end of a sentencde. I have found some other things as well but that is cloming in another message. Matthew On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:01 AM, william lomas wrote: wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . pauses at the end of each line lol On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James Nash wrote: They've released 10.6.1 already? - Original Message - From: Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: don't you just hate it When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Security question about standard account
Hi Esther, Thank you for the confirmation. Yes, I know that about Unix/Linux, in fact, when I was in my regular account i wanted to test if it actually worked. When I entered sudo update, it informed me that I did not have the privillages to do that. I was very impressed when it did this. However, as i know my admin details, if I entered them into my standard account would they work? I gues I should put on some parental controls if thy do. Thanks again for confirming for me. Take care james - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Security question about standard account Hi James, You always have to authorize system changes from an admin user account. If you perform system updates, and are using an account with admin privileges, you'll be prompted to enter your password. If you perform maintenance tasks through commands issued from terminal (even from an account with admin privileges) you will be told that you don't have permission to execute these -- you need to prefix the command with sudo to log in with superuser (admin) privileges as in: sudo periodic weekly to manually run the weekly maintenance tasks. Then you'll be prompted for your admin password. James, if you weren't prompted for an admin user name and password, you would have to log out of your account entirely an log into an admin account to make system changes. The point of working from a standard user account is not to avoid having to avoid and admin log in, since these actions are encrypted. The main reason for working from a standard account is that you won't be able to inadvertently make major changes to your system using your power as an admin user. For example, you won't be able to delete fundamental system applications while you're learning to navigate the Mac for the first time and work with files -- just because your focus was on the wrong file when you pressed your delete key. It's actually standard practice in linux and unix that you don't log directly into the root account for the system. You set up user accounts with root privilege, and even then most users work from their regular accounts and only log in as superuser to their root accounts (by typing su instead of sudo) when they need to perform changes that require system privileges. Hope this helps. Cheers, Esther James Nash wrote: As I have said before, for my daily computing needs I use a standard account. however, I have a question. Is there a way of disabling the request by Mac OS X which brings up a dialogue to enter an admin username and password when wanting to effect system changes please? I'm asking because of course, i know my admin details and as i'm able to enter them in the dialogue to do what i want, it seems to negate the security measure of a standard acount? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Am I on This List
I've missed some e-mails. I get some and not others. The only reason I've noted them is because I'm getting the replies to the e-mails but did not get the original e-mail. On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: I also stopped getting mail some time yesterday afternoon. I also posted a question last evening which I assume went to the list, but again, I've gotten no mail for about a day. Advice, please. Les __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4417 (20090911) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speeding up podcasts
You can wind foard or backwards using command+option+right or left arrow keys. On 11 Sep 2009, at 18:41, Christina wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in itunes to here podcasts faster? I've searched and have not found a way to speed them up. Thanks, C;hristina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speeding up podcasts
Yes, thanks. I knew how to fast forward and rewind but is there a way to make the playback speed faster or slower? When I listen to audiobooks on my victor stream I can speed up the playback in order to get through books quicker, I was wondering if there was a way to do this in itunes. I get in a hurry sometimes and just want to hear long podcasts quickly. :) Christina On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: You can wind foard or backwards using command+option+right or left arrow keys. On 11 Sep 2009, at 18:41, Christina wrote: Hi all, Is there a way in itunes to here podcasts faster? I've searched and have not found a way to speed them up. Thanks, C;hristina --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Security question about standard account
Hi Esther, According to Mac oS X help, Standard users should only be able to install software for their own accounts. Having just tried to run my test with my admin details and found out that I am able to install Software Updates is concerning. This included a Mac OS X Combined update which must surely affect system changes. I was obviously wrong, but I thought that Standard users could not install software as in Windows and Ubuntu Linux I think. Perhaps I'll log into my Admin account and add some parental controls to make this as i feel it should be. Take care James - Original Message - From: Esther mori...@mac.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Security question about standard account Hi James, You always have to authorize system changes from an admin user account. If you perform system updates, and are using an account with admin privileges, you'll be prompted to enter your password. If you perform maintenance tasks through commands issued from terminal (even from an account with admin privileges) you will be told that you don't have permission to execute these -- you need to prefix the command with sudo to log in with superuser (admin) privileges as in: sudo periodic weekly to manually run the weekly maintenance tasks. Then you'll be prompted for your admin password. James, if you weren't prompted for an admin user name and password, you would have to log out of your account entirely an log into an admin account to make system changes. The point of working from a standard user account is not to avoid having to avoid and admin log in, since these actions are encrypted. The main reason for working from a standard account is that you won't be able to inadvertently make major changes to your system using your power as an admin user. For example, you won't be able to delete fundamental system applications while you're learning to navigate the Mac for the first time and work with files -- just because your focus was on the wrong file when you pressed your delete key. It's actually standard practice in linux and unix that you don't log directly into the root account for the system. You set up user accounts with root privilege, and even then most users work from their regular accounts and only log in as superuser to their root accounts (by typing su instead of sudo) when they need to perform changes that require system privileges. Hope this helps. Cheers, Esther James Nash wrote: As I have said before, for my daily computing needs I use a standard account. however, I have a question. Is there a way of disabling the request by Mac OS X which brings up a dialogue to enter an admin username and password when wanting to effect system changes please? I'm asking because of course, i know my admin details and as i'm able to enter them in the dialogue to do what i want, it seems to negate the security measure of a standard acount? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Convert Your Physical Windows PC Into A Virtual Machine For Use On Your Macintosh Computer With VM Ware Fusion
[As posted on the Candle Shore BLOG on Monday, September 14, 2009) Convert Your Physical Windows PC Into A Virtual Machine For Use On Your Macintosh Computer With VM Ware Fusion Hello, The title of this post states it best; now, using http://www.vmware.com/ VM Ware's Fusion, you can quickly convert the entire contents of your windows PC into a virtual PC that you can run as an application on the Macintosh. http://www.vmware.com/download/fusion/windows_to_mac.html Click Here to view a 5 minute video that details how this is done. This is going to blow your mind. Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ?
It works fine for me when VoiceOver is not running. When it is, you just have to hit VO-Tab first to let the command pass through. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina [blindmaclo...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ? I have noticed a problem for me since I upgraded to SL. Maybe someone here has a fix. I used to be able to use command plus option plus control plus 8 to switch between white on black and black on white. Now I cannot get that keyboard shortcut to do a thing. I really can't see much but it's much easier on the eyes to have it on white on black for me even though I'm not reading the screen. However, I often need to switch it back to black on white and I can no longer easily do this on the fly. Christina On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote: I've only had snow leopard installed for a couple of days, so I'm still learning the ins and outs of it. Thus far, however, I haven't noticed any perceptible difference in features or the way it behaves. On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, claire amoroso wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there are any improvments made in Snow Leopard as regard to the application Zoom ? I would like to know if the keyboard focus was enhanced also. Thanks, Claire Vous cherchez l'intégrale des clips de Michael Jackson ? Bing ! Trouvez !http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Michael+JacksonFORM=MVDE6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ?
Awesome! Thanks, that worked. I'm so glad to be able to do that. :) How long does that vo plus tab stay in effect? Do I have to turn it off or anything? On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote: It works fine for me when VoiceOver is not running. When it is, you just have to hit VO-Tab first to let the command pass through. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina [blindmaclo...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ? I have noticed a problem for me since I upgraded to SL. Maybe someone here has a fix. I used to be able to use command plus option plus control plus 8 to switch between white on black and black on white. Now I cannot get that keyboard shortcut to do a thing. I really can't see much but it's much easier on the eyes to have it on white on black for me even though I'm not reading the screen. However, I often need to switch it back to black on white and I can no longer easily do this on the fly. Christina On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote: I've only had snow leopard installed for a couple of days, so I'm still learning the ins and outs of it. Thus far, however, I haven't noticed any perceptible difference in features or the way it behaves. On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, claire amoroso wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there are any improvments made in Snow Leopard as regard to the application Zoom ? I would like to know if the keyboard focus was enhanced also. Thanks, Claire Vous cherchez l'intégrale des clips de Michael Jackson ? Bing ! Trouvez !http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Michael+JacksonFORM=MVDE6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ?
It stays in effect only for the next keystroke (or keystroke combination if that is the case). VoiceOver ignores it and lets it go to the active app or the operating system. After that, it interprets them as usual. You don't have to turn it back off. On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Christina wrote: Awesome! Thanks, that worked. I'm so glad to be able to do that. :) How long does that vo plus tab stay in effect? Do I have to turn it off or anything? On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote: It works fine for me when VoiceOver is not running. When it is, you just have to hit VO-Tab first to let the command pass through. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christina [blindmaclo...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Features in Zoom under Snow Leopard ? I have noticed a problem for me since I upgraded to SL. Maybe someone here has a fix. I used to be able to use command plus option plus control plus 8 to switch between white on black and black on white. Now I cannot get that keyboard shortcut to do a thing. I really can't see much but it's much easier on the eyes to have it on white on black for me even though I'm not reading the screen. However, I often need to switch it back to black on white and I can no longer easily do this on the fly. Christina On Sep 11, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Mueller, Matt wrote: I've only had snow leopard installed for a couple of days, so I'm still learning the ins and outs of it. Thus far, however, I haven't noticed any perceptible difference in features or the way it behaves. On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, claire amoroso wrote: Hi, Does anyone know if there are any improvments made in Snow Leopard as regard to the application Zoom ? I would like to know if the keyboard focus was enhanced also. Thanks, Claire Vous cherchez l'intégrale des clips de Michael Jackson ? Bing ! Trouvez !http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Michael+JacksonFORM=MVDE6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: reading menu items
Hi Chris, settle on the menu item you'd like to read, and then do VO w twice quickly. HTH and have a great Fri eve! Smiles, CQ :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Sep 10, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Chris Polk wrote: Hi: I'm hoping I am just missing something here. I am trying to create shortcut keys in some programs like adium. I have one working that jumps right to set facebook status, but only because a friend told me how the menu item was written exactly. I am unable to read letter by letter in a menu so I can set these. Setting up things like this will make things quicker, example, answer a call in skype, or anything that requires you to go through a menu that doesn't have a hotkey allready. Any help would be appreciated! Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
upgrading.
Hi guys, I'm pretty sure I won't break anything heren but... Sighs when I went to install snowleppard today I got an install button much earlier in the process than I expected. I was hoping for a backup and install option so I could save my data and settings, but all I got was introduction screen, licence screen, and customization screen before the install button. This is my work computer, so I want some reassurance that if I hit this install button I won't lose my data. Is that the case? Thanks, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading.
That's right. It is set to automatically install as an upgrade to what you have. You won't lose anything. Justin On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi guys, I'm pretty sure I won't break anything heren but... Sighs when I went to install snowleppard today I got an install button much earlier in the process than I expected. I was hoping for a backup and install option so I could save my data and settings, but all I got was introduction screen, licence screen, and customization screen before the install button. This is my work computer, so I want some reassurance that if I hit this install button I won't lose my data. Is that the case? Thanks, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading.
Hi Eric, I hit that install button, Snow Leopard was installed, and all my data and programs were fine. The only thing that disappeared was Sound Source, presumably because that version doesn't work with Snow Leopard. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: snow leopard and fusion
Yes, perfectly! On Sep 9, 2009, at 4:20 AM, dannyboy wrote: Will vm ware's fusion work with snow leopard? There were some on a forum claiming it might not. VaShaun Jones (President) Cobb County Empowerment Chapter of the National Federation of the Blind of Georgia Inc. Office Phone: 678.603.4881 Cell:678.662.7481 Web URL: ccecnfb.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Mac-cessibility News] VoiceOver on iPhone 3GS Apple Video
VoiceOver on iPhone 3GS Apple Video Apple has posted a video showcasing the VoiceOver screen reader on the iPhone 3GS. Click here to watch or if you'd like to read more about iPhone 3GS access features, Click here Enjoy! You can read the rest of this news item at: http://www.lioncourt.com/2009/09/11/voiceover-on-iphone-3gs-apple-video/ The Mac-cessibility Network ...it's all within our reach... http://maccessibility.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
text edit
Hi everyone. I need some assistance. I'm using text edit with lepard and I would like to know if there's a way to have two different files open at once? I'm trying to read a document and take notes and don't want to have to keep closing one to get to the other. May, now using my MacBook --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: text edit
May, when you have the first doc open, simply then open the second. To navigate between them, use command ` (key to the left of the 1) Best and have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:25 PM, May and Wynter wrote: Hi everyone. I need some assistance. I'm using text edit with lepard and I would like to know if there's a way to have two different files open at once? I'm trying to read a document and take notes and don't want to have to keep closing one to get to the other. May, now using my MacBook --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: text edit
Ah, thank you so very much. That makes things a lot easier. May, now using my MacBook - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: Re: text edit May, when you have the first doc open, simply then open the second. To navigate between them, use command ` (key to the left of the 1) Best and have a great weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:25 PM, May and Wynter wrote: Hi everyone. I need some assistance. I'm using text edit with lepard and I would like to know if there's a way to have two different files open at once? I'm trying to read a document and take notes and don't want to have to keep closing one to get to the other. May, now using my MacBook --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: text edit
You can either open all the do documents one at a time with command O, which will open them all at once, then cycle through them with command Accent while in Textedit. Or you can open textedit first and use repeated instances of command O to do the same thing. Command Accent is your friend. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
