virtual audio for the mac?

2009-09-16 Thread hank smith
hello I know for windows there is a virtual audio sound card what program does 
this on the mac side?
Hank
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Re: Spanish Braille tables

2009-09-16 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Lindsay,

My husband has started work on Spanish Braille tables. We already have  
the Spanish tables from WindowEyes but the JAWS tables would be very  
useful should yu have them.

Cheers,

Anne

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Sep 2009, at 00:36, Lindsay Yazzolino   
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am taking a Spanish course and am wondering if the Mac supports the
> use of Spanish Braille tables so that I can read documents with a
> Braille display. Thanks.
>
> >

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Re: moving items to doc

2009-09-16 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey May,
when text edit is running, it will show up in the dock as running. to  
keep it there, go to your dock, find it and do VO shift m to bring up  
the contextual menu.. in there you'll find keep in dock. click that  
and text edit will always be in your dock.
On 2009-09-16, at 10:59 PM, May and Wynter wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>
> How do I move things to the doc?  I would like to move text edit  
> there, thanks.
>
> May and Wynter with a y
>
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Typing Spanish characters

2009-09-16 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino

Hi,

Is there a way to quickly type Spanish symbols using the Mac? Also, is
it possible to change the writing language of TextEdit to Spanish?
Thanks.

Lindsay

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moving items to doc

2009-09-16 Thread May and Wynter
Hi everyone.

How do I move things to the doc?  I would like to move text edit there, thanks.

May and Wynter with a y
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RE: a few questions about Iphone OS 3.1

2009-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin

Hi all,

When in the mailbox on the iphone, there's an edit button to the far right,
toward the top.  If you activate this button, you can simply split tap any
message you want to delete.  Then at the bottom of the screen, you'll see a
button that says "delete" followed by the number of messages selected for
deletion.  Split or double tap this button, then your messages are gone.
Best,
Donna

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Harford
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a few questions about Iphone OS 3.1
> 
> 
> I would say its a bug.  I just tried it on my iPhone and I didn't even
> get three items when I tried to flick down through headers, but I
> looked at it with my mac first and I certainly know as well as you do
> that there are quite a few headings on the page.
> 
> What are other people finding?
> 
> Justin
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 6:05 PM, John J Herzog wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi listers,
> > I am currently using a new Ipod touch with voiceover, and I have
> > several questions.
> > First, in the mailbox, is there a way to delete messages without
> first
> > clicking on each one? If I decide that I do not want the message
> based
> > on the subject alone, how can I remove it? Second, and somewhat
> > related, is there a way to select multiple messages at once and get
> > rid of them at the same time?
> > Finally, I have a question about Safari. Sometimes, when pages load,
> > and I swipe down with two fingers to get to the next heading, not all
> > headings are displayed on the page. In some rare instances, it only
> > takes  me to the first three headings, when I know there is more
> > information on the page separated by further headers. For an example
> > of this, go to www.engadget.com. Notice that even when you do a read
> > all in safari, it somehow doesn't show the whole site, as doing a
> read
> > all with the mac shows substantially more content. What's going on
> > here?
> > Thank you for any help you can provide to these inquiries.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> > 
> 
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unable to log in to account in itunes 9

2009-09-16 Thread hank smith
hello in itunes 9 I can't log in to my account
it prompts me to select what type of account eg apple id or aol id
I select aol id
log in
it claims it can't access the account until I aggree to terms
I aggree to terms
hit sign in to my account button and it throws me back to step 1 when I hit 
continue it goes to create account
did they break this feature again in v9?
Hank
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Re: skype on the iphone

2009-09-16 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

I don't think you have to worry about syncing Skype contacts. When you  
sign in to a skype account, you get all your Skype contacts. That's  
the way it's always worked for me, and I've run Skype on a PC, a Mac,  
and a PAC Mate.

HTH,
Anna


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Re: Applescript Editor help

2009-09-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux

Hi James,

You can go to the following for a full guide on applescripting

http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/AppleScript/Conceptual/AppleScriptLangGuide/introduction/ASLR_intro.html

If you want to dabble a bit on some scripting with a tutorial starting  
from the basics:

http://mac.appstorm.net/how-to/applescript/the-ultimate-beginners-guide-to-applescript/

Applescript editor is automatically installed on your system normally,  
it just changed places in the finder. . Go to your applications folder  
and go to the utility folder. There you will find the applescript  
editor. To access the dictionaries from there press command shift l.

Good hunting

best

Yuma

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Re: a few questions about Iphone OS 3.1

2009-09-16 Thread Justin Harford

I would say its a bug.  I just tried it on my iPhone and I didn't even  
get three items when I tried to flick down through headers, but I  
looked at it with my mac first and I certainly know as well as you do  
that there are quite a few headings on the page.

What are other people finding?

Justin
On Sep 16, 2009, at 6:05 PM, John J Herzog wrote:

>
> Hi listers,
> I am currently using a new Ipod touch with voiceover, and I have
> several questions.
> First, in the mailbox, is there a way to delete messages without first
> clicking on each one? If I decide that I do not want the message based
> on the subject alone, how can I remove it? Second, and somewhat
> related, is there a way to select multiple messages at once and get
> rid of them at the same time?
> Finally, I have a question about Safari. Sometimes, when pages load,
> and I swipe down with two fingers to get to the next heading, not all
> headings are displayed on the page. In some rare instances, it only
> takes  me to the first three headings, when I know there is more
> information on the page separated by further headers. For an example
> of this, go to www.engadget.com. Notice that even when you do a read
> all in safari, it somehow doesn't show the whole site, as doing a read
> all with the mac shows substantially more content. What's going on  
> here?
> Thank you for any help you can provide to these inquiries.
>
> John
>
> >


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Re: PeachPit press and training.

2009-09-16 Thread igor_kaplan



On Sep 16, 7:20 pm, "hank smith"  wrote:
> what is the phone number for them

Hi,

  Please go to the following page:
http://my.safaribooksonline.com/contactus
  It has all contact information such as phone numbers, email
addresses and so on.

Regards,

   Igor.

> - Original Message -
> From: "igor_kaplan" 
> To: "MacVisionaries" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:23 AM
> Subject: Re: PeachPit press and training.
>
> > Hi Darcy and all,
>
> > Regarding SafariBooksOnline, you have to call or write them and ask
> > for 5008 compliant access. I just subscribed to them and they gave me
> > the html-only access. Works pritty fine and all Apple training books
> > are accessible.
>
> > I also bought the book some time ago directly from Peach Pit Press
> > and was very disappoint to find out that I spent $39 for nothing.
> > Writing to them did not give anything, they said, that at most they
> > could return me the book price, however finally they did not do even
> > that. I found the way around, I was able to print from Adobe digital
> > using Office image as a printer, then used the OCR program to convert
> > image into text. Actually I got a pritty good text, however I
> > definitely will not buy anything anymore from them. SafariBooksOnline
> > actually contain all there titles and now it is accessible so I am
> > fine.
>
> >  All the best.
> >   Igor.
>
> > Darcy Burnard wrote:
> >> Hi Jonathan.  Personally I've not had much luck with Peach Pit Press
> >> titles.  I tried to get their apple script book.  I bought it, but it
> >> was in adobe digital editions format, which is not accessible as far
> >> as I know.
> >> The book is also on safari books, but it isn't readable there either.
> >> It's only available in their print fidelity mode, which is not
> >> accessible either.  This may not be the case with all peach pit
> >> titles, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
> >> Darcy
>
> >> On 2009-09-14, at 5:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>
> >> > Does anybody know if the PeachPit books used for Apple certifications
> >> > are available in a Daisy or audible format?  I have been thinking
> >> > about getting some official training, and I saw that Apple uses books
> >> > from the PeachPit press. A few years ago, I would have just gone out
> >> > and bought the book and struggled with it page every 1/2 hour. But I
> >> > don't think I could even accomplish that now.
>
> >> > Jonathan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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a few questions about Iphone OS 3.1

2009-09-16 Thread John J Herzog

Hi listers,
I am currently using a new Ipod touch with voiceover, and I have  
several questions.
First, in the mailbox, is there a way to delete messages without first  
clicking on each one? If I decide that I do not want the message based  
on the subject alone, how can I remove it? Second, and somewhat  
related, is there a way to select multiple messages at once and get  
rid of them at the same time?
Finally, I have a question about Safari. Sometimes, when pages load,  
and I swipe down with two fingers to get to the next heading, not all  
headings are displayed on the page. In some rare instances, it only  
takes  me to the first three headings, when I know there is more  
information on the page separated by further headers. For an example  
of this, go to www.engadget.com. Notice that even when you do a read  
all in safari, it somehow doesn't show the whole site, as doing a read  
all with the mac shows substantially more content. What's going on here?
Thank you for any help you can provide to these inquiries.

John 

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Re: Spanish Braille tables

2009-09-16 Thread Justin Harford

Hi Lindsay

If you can find any Spanish braille tables that show the different  
symbols for Spanish braille, there is a couple on this list who can  
make Spanish braille tables available.  For example, you could find  
the tables in JAWS and send them out to Anne Robertson, who is on this  
list.  Here is the address Anne Robertson 

Regards
J




On Sep 16, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am taking a Spanish course and am wondering if the Mac supports the
> use of Spanish Braille tables so that I can read documents with a
> Braille display. Thanks.
>
> >


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Re: PeachPit press and training.

2009-09-16 Thread hank smith

what is the phone number for them/?
- Original Message - 
From: "igor_kaplan" 
To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: PeachPit press and training.


>
> Hi Darcy and all,
>
> Regarding SafariBooksOnline, you have to call or write them and ask
> for 5008 compliant access. I just subscribed to them and they gave me
> the html-only access. Works pritty fine and all Apple training books
> are accessible.
>
> I also bought the book some time ago directly from Peach Pit Press
> and was very disappoint to find out that I spent $39 for nothing.
> Writing to them did not give anything, they said, that at most they
> could return me the book price, however finally they did not do even
> that. I found the way around, I was able to print from Adobe digital
> using Office image as a printer, then used the OCR program to convert
> image into text. Actually I got a pritty good text, however I
> definitely will not buy anything anymore from them. SafariBooksOnline
> actually contain all there titles and now it is accessible so I am
> fine.
>
>  All the best.
>   Igor.
>
> Darcy Burnard wrote:
>> Hi Jonathan.  Personally I've not had much luck with Peach Pit Press
>> titles.  I tried to get their apple script book.  I bought it, but it
>> was in adobe digital editions format, which is not accessible as far
>> as I know.
>> The book is also on safari books, but it isn't readable there either.
>> It's only available in their print fidelity mode, which is not
>> accessible either.  This may not be the case with all peach pit
>> titles, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
>> Darcy
>>
>> On 2009-09-14, at 5:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Does anybody know if the PeachPit books used for Apple certifications
>> > are available in a Daisy or audible format?  I have been thinking
>> > about getting some official training, and I saw that Apple uses books
>> > from the PeachPit press. A few years ago, I would have just gone out
>> > and bought the book and struggled with it page every 1/2 hour. But I
>> > don't think I could even accomplish that now.
>> >
>> > Jonathan
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
> > 


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skype on the iphone

2009-09-16 Thread Rebecca Redmile

Is there a particular skype ap that's accessible? The one I downloaded  
is not as accessible as it might be, or I'm doing it wrong. It says I  
have three contact requests but no matter how I try and access what  
they are, it won't read them. Now it's reading a list of presumably  
the letters of the alphabet under which heading I might have contacts,  
so for instance it says A C D E F  H L etc. but that's the extent of it.
The other thing that's causing me problems is how to sync skype  
contacts between IPhone and Mac? I thought they would sync if you  
checked that box in the cell phone settings scroll area in ITunes, but  
it seems it only works one way, if at all. Any help would be  
appreciated.
Rebecca

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Spanish Braille tables

2009-09-16 Thread Lindsay Yazzolino

Hi,

I am taking a Spanish course and am wondering if the Mac supports the
use of Spanish Braille tables so that I can read documents with a
Braille display. Thanks.

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Re: Two Questions - VO reading unread messages and ability to skip past text

2009-09-16 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi James,

If Keyboard Commander is on, the Unread Messages command is Option-U,  
using whichever Option key you selected. I believe you can do this  
from anywhere if mail is open. I always have to press control after  
using this command to get speech to work, and if that doesn't work, VO- 
F1 does the trick.

I wish there was a Skip Text command and a command for going to the  
end of lists, but I don't think there is. However, depending on the  
site, moving to the next heading (VO-Command-H) or the next auto web  
spot (VO-Command-N) often does the trick.

Best,
Anna


On Sep 16, 2009, at 3:39 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> Hi list,
>
> 1. Can someone please remind me of the command to get VO to read
> unread messages and in what context to use it please? I mean can it be
> used when Mail is open but no windows are open?
>
> 2. Is there a way to skip past text with VO please? For example when
> you are on the BBC website, is there a command to jump past all of
> that unnecessary stuff before you get to the headlines?
>
> Thank you
>
> Take care
>
> James
>
> >


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Re: 32 bit versus 64 bit

2009-09-16 Thread kaare dehard

at boot-up hold the 6 and 4 keys down. Be prepared however, some   
stuff may have 32 bit plugins that will cause some strange behavior.
On 2009-09-16, at 7:35 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was wondering if any of you felt any change when booting SL with 64
> bit. I can feel a slight increase in performance with sl in default
> mode, and strangely, voice over gets better and better as i use the
> computer, in terms of lag after hitting a key. go figure why.
>
> I wanted to know if there is a way to boot up in 64 by default at each
> boot. Or is that in the works?
>
> Best
>
> Yuma
>
> >


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lowering the verbosity of the finder column view

2009-09-16 Thread Justin Harford

Hi all

I wanted to know if anyone else on here uses column view in finder,  
and if anyone else has found a way to cut down on the verbosity of  
voiceover in this view?  It seems to want to announce a list view  
everytime I right arrow into a foler, but I really don't care to hear  
this since I already know that I'm in a list.  That's all the column  
view is.  Could anyone direct me to the correct verbosity settings  
that need to be tampered with to get rid of this?

Regards
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Re: Snow Leopard and mail preview pane

2009-09-16 Thread Brett Campbell

I prefer to turn off preview pane when I'm going through the junk  
folder.  This way the message isn't triggered as read before I  
delete.  I don't even know for sure if this is necessary.  I've just  
read posts that you will receive more spam if it appears read.  I have  
no personal knowledge of this.

Brett

On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote:

>
> I am curious to know, what advantages are there to turning off the
> preview pane?  Does the mail program behave differently in any way?
> Thanks for your observations.
>
>
>
> On 9/16/09, Simon Cavendish  wrote:
>>
>> Try to do it with the physical mouse click by routing your mouse
>> cursor to voiceover cursor with vo+command+f5. I think that is how I
>> had switched the preview pane as it was driving me crazy.
>>
>> Best, Simon
>> On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:42, Bob Hill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I received and installed my copy of Snow Leopard last week, and now
>>> want to turn off the preview pane in mail.
>>>
>>> Is there a different procedure for doing this in mail now?
>>> clicking on the horizontal splitters doesn't seem to work.
>>> I have mouse cursor ignores VO cursor set in navigation
>>>
>>> Any suggestions ire appreciated.
>>>
>>> Bob Hill
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
> >


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Re: Pronounciations

2009-09-16 Thread Brett Campbell

Go to the VoiceOver utility with VO F8 and go to verbosity.  Select  
the text tab.  VO right arrow until you reach speak numbers as.  If  
you select as words, it will pronounce the way you desire.

Brett

On Sep 16, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Mike wrote:

>
> Hi List:
>
> How do I change VO to pronounce 100 as 1 hundred instead of one zero
> zero?
> I'm running SL.
>
> Thanks:
>
> Mike
>
> >


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Pronounciations

2009-09-16 Thread Mike

Hi List:

How do I change VO to pronounce 100 as 1 hundred instead of one zero
zero?
I'm running SL.

Thanks:

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Applescript Editor help

2009-09-16 Thread James & Nash

Hi list,

Is there an Apple Script language guide built into Mac OS X and do we  
have to have the developer tools installed as I chose not to install  
them during installation? Can anyone help please?

Thank you
Take care
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Two Questions - VO reading unread messages and ability to skip past text

2009-09-16 Thread James & Nash

Hi list,

1. Can someone please remind me of the command to get VO to read  
unread messages and in what context to use it please? I mean can it be  
used when Mail is open but no windows are open?

2. Is there a way to skip past text with VO please? For example when  
you are on the BBC website, is there a command to jump past all of  
that unnecessary stuff before you get to the headlines?

Thank you

Take care

James 

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Re: Snow Leopard and mail preview pane

2009-09-16 Thread Jim Fettgather

I am curious to know, what advantages are there to turning off the
preview pane?  Does the mail program behave differently in any way?
Thanks for your observations.



On 9/16/09, Simon Cavendish  wrote:
>
> Try to do it with the physical mouse click by routing your mouse
> cursor to voiceover cursor with vo+command+f5. I think that is how I
> had switched the preview pane as it was driving me crazy.
>
> Best, Simon
> On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:42, Bob Hill wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I received and installed my copy of Snow Leopard last week, and now
>> want to turn off the preview pane in mail.
>>
>> Is there a different procedure for doing this in mail now?
>> clicking on the horizontal splitters doesn't seem to work.
>> I have mouse cursor ignores VO cursor set in navigation
>>
>> Any suggestions ire appreciated.
>>
>> Bob Hill
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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Re: sluggish composng of mail

2009-09-16 Thread Pete Nalda

Do you have zoom activated?  I've noticed that sometimes when used  
together in mail, either one will act up a little.  If one is acting  
up then turn it off and then back on.  That is if you're using both  
features of UA at the same time.  HTH
On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Christina wrote:

>
> Hello list,
>
> I've been experiencing sluggish typing  while typing an e-mail.  When
> I'm composing a message voiceover speaks very slowly.  So, I don't
> know if it's actually typing slowly on the screen or if it's just
> voiceover speaking very sluggishly. It's weird because I have this
> sensation as though I'm typing in mud.  This doesn't always occur
> while typing a new message.  It definitely happens every time I reply
> to a message.  It is very frustrating.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this or does anyone have any ideas as to
> why this has been happening since I upgraded to SL?  I love my mac and
> SL so I don't want to sound as though I'm complaining.  :)
>
> Thanks so very much,
> Christina
>
>
> >

Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
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Re: Snow Leopard and mail preview pane

2009-09-16 Thread Simon Cavendish

Try to do it with the physical mouse click by routing your mouse  
cursor to voiceover cursor with vo+command+f5. I think that is how I  
had switched the preview pane as it was driving me crazy.

Best, Simon
On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:42, Bob Hill wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I received and installed my copy of Snow Leopard last week, and now
> want to turn off the preview pane in mail.
>
> Is there a different procedure for doing this in mail now?
> clicking on the horizontal splitters doesn't seem to work.
> I have mouse cursor ignores VO cursor set in navigation
>
> Any suggestions ire appreciated.
>
> Bob Hill
>
>
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Re: sluggish composng of mail

2009-09-16 Thread Simon Cavendish

Dear Christina,

I haven't noticed any of the issues you mention. Have you repaired  
permissions after installing Snow Leopard? To repair permissions, go  
to application then utilities and open disk utility. You should find  
an option there udner maintenance. There are other programmes that can  
do it, like Onnyx but you may not have it. it's free-ware.

Again, I'm not an IT expert but others may suggest something else.

With best wishes, Simon
On 16 Sep 2009, at 20:41, Christina wrote:

>
> Hello list,
>
> I've been experiencing sluggish typing  while typing an e-mail.  When
> I'm composing a message voiceover speaks very slowly.  So, I don't
> know if it's actually typing slowly on the screen or if it's just
> voiceover speaking very sluggishly. It's weird because I have this
> sensation as though I'm typing in mud.  This doesn't always occur
> while typing a new message.  It definitely happens every time I reply
> to a message.  It is very frustrating.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this or does anyone have any ideas as to
> why this has been happening since I upgraded to SL?  I love my mac and
> SL so I don't want to sound as though I'm complaining.  :)
>
> Thanks so very much,
> Christina
>
>
> >


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Re: Just upgraded to Snow Leopard!

2009-09-16 Thread matthew Dyer

Hi,  I do not get the typing sound in password field eather in the os  
or on the web.  I could not find a way to fix this.

Matthew


On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Angel Dockham wrote:

>
> mm when I am in a password field for say authorizing an installation
> for something to do with operating system it will make the sounds to
> inform you that you entered a charcter however when i am online say
> like facebook or myspace it does not not make a sound when I type a
> character. I can't find anything in Utility to edit the settings for
> this feature or found it mentioned anywhere. Does anyone have a
> solution for this or encountering the same issue?
>
> On Sep 15, 8:26 pm, Angel  wrote:
>> Hey Guys!
>>
>> I just installed SL on both my laptop and my iMac and so far have a
>> few questions about VO. I read somewhere that the new version has
>> features like shortcut keys to switch from dom to group mode and
>> sounds when entering a password. it does enter the sound when  
>> typing a
>> password on some stuff but not on others. Is there a way to fix it?
>> also I read about quick nav but don't see any options in the VO
>> utility to even switch to that mode.
>>
>> Is there anywhere I can find a list of the  new shortcut keys and
>> things? Thanks
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Re: navigation questions

2009-09-16 Thread Simon Cavendish

Dear Christina,

you shouldn't feel embarrassed about not knowing these things. It took  
me an inordinate amount of time to work the navigation in text  
shortcut keys. Somehow they didn't seem to register in my mind. I came  
to mac from Windows and Jaws two years ago but it took me a long time  
to learn the key combinations you are asking for. Here is what I can  
do and remember. Others will surely chip in.

1. To jump to the beginning and end of line, press control + left  
arrow and right arrow respectively. Voiceover will helpfully say the  
word which is at the beginning or end of line and remember that when  
voiceover has said the word, it has just passed it. It's very reliable  
and with time you will learn to trust it.

2. To jump to the top row and bottom row of a table once you are  
interacting with it, press vo+shift+left or right arrow respectively.  
I hope I'm not getting it wrong. I don't do it that often but I  
remember Esther had helped me with that one. So try it and if it is  
wrong, please ask the list again.

3. To jump to the beginning or end of a document either in TextEdit or  
in the body of a mail message with which you need to interact, press  
command+up arrow or down arrow.

I've never successfully managed to find and execute a way of jumping  
up and down the document by page although others on the list have  
suggested key strokes for that. So I hope that someone else will  
provide those.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Simon
On 16 Sep 2009, at 20:53, Christina wrote:

>
> Hi List,
>
> I've had my macbook for a year and a half.  However there are a few
> things I have not been able to figure out how to do.  I'm kind of
> embarrassed because I'm sure they're simple.  :)  I would love it if
> someone can help me out.  I've read the help pages but somehow I still
> cannot figure out a few navigations as my keyboard does not have home
> and end  keys.  I believe I'm supposed to use the arrows in
> conjunction with the fn key but still have not been able to figure out
> how to do the following.
>
> 1.  How do I jump to the beginning and end of a line?
> 2.  While in a table how do I jump to the top row and the bottom row?
> 3.  How do I jump to the beginning of a document, such as a mail
> message, or how do I jump to the end of a document?
> 4.  How do I go up or down a page?
>
> Thanks so much and I greatly appreciate it,
>
> Christina
>
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navigation questions

2009-09-16 Thread Christina

Hi List,

I've had my macbook for a year and a half.  However there are a few  
things I have not been able to figure out how to do.  I'm kind of  
embarrassed because I'm sure they're simple.  :)  I would love it if  
someone can help me out.  I've read the help pages but somehow I still  
cannot figure out a few navigations as my keyboard does not have home  
and end  keys.  I believe I'm supposed to use the arrows in  
conjunction with the fn key but still have not been able to figure out  
how to do the following.

1.  How do I jump to the beginning and end of a line?
2.  While in a table how do I jump to the top row and the bottom row?
3.  How do I jump to the beginning of a document, such as a mail  
message, or how do I jump to the end of a document?
4.  How do I go up or down a page?

Thanks so much and I greatly appreciate it,

Christina

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sluggish composng of mail

2009-09-16 Thread Christina

Hello list,

I've been experiencing sluggish typing  while typing an e-mail.  When  
I'm composing a message voiceover speaks very slowly.  So, I don't  
know if it's actually typing slowly on the screen or if it's just  
voiceover speaking very sluggishly. It's weird because I have this  
sensation as though I'm typing in mud.  This doesn't always occur  
while typing a new message.  It definitely happens every time I reply  
to a message.  It is very frustrating.

Has anyone else experienced this or does anyone have any ideas as to  
why this has been happening since I upgraded to SL?  I love my mac and  
SL so I don't want to sound as though I'm complaining.  :)

Thanks so very much,
Christina


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ITV player

2009-09-16 Thread william lomas

hi has anyone in the UK noted that on ITV the catchup service 
no  
longer works for mac users like ourselves?
When I click a program it does not play


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Re: reccomendation for menu planning software

2009-09-16 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

I just took a look at my wife's copy of Yummy soup and it appears to  
be 90% accessible in Leopard. It has a drag and drop functionality,  
that allows you to drop web addresses from a cooking web site into the  
application and have the application automatically import the recipe.  
I did not try this as a blind user.  It also does not appear to have a  
shopping list extension.  There was a review of recipe management  
software in Tidbits about a year ago. Some of them did have shopping  
list managers either directly or as a plugin to the iPhone.

Jonathan

On Sep 10, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Christina wrote:

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> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone knew of voiceover accessible software where
> maybe I can enter our family recipes, plan menus, and have it create a
> grocery list.  I used to have one like six years ago back when my
> vision was better and back when I was using windows and zoom text.  It
> was a Betty Crocker program with tons of Betty Crocker recipes and I
> could enter my own recipes as well and do menu planning.  Also, I
> would be interested if it was a website that was voiceover
> accessible.  Either a website or a software I purchase would be
> helpful.  I really cannot see much at all so I would need it to be
> "read" by voiceover and cannot use anything where I would be required
> to use vision.
>
> Thanks so much,
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Re: Barcode Experiment Audio Webcast

2009-09-16 Thread michael A. Babcock
ryan;
I can't find your email and i wanted to talk to you regarding getting  
the sh script. Could you by any chance send it to me via email:
michael.babc...@gwhosting.net
as this would be very nice. I like the idea of a bar code reader, and  
trust me, that would help, a, lot!
thanks
mike

On Sep 15, 2009, at 7:51 PM, John Weir wrote:

> Ryan, I have the Metrologic Voyager Bt.  It scans well but on bar  
> codes it reads the leading character (prefix) and then tries to look  
> it up in the UPS table as if it had 12 characters but the table only  
> has 11, which does not have the prefix.  How do I tell the BT to  
> mask or leave off the prefix on the 12 digit upc A bar code? I have  
> the Metrologic single line configuration guide but dont know what  
> bar code to scan to configure the scanner to not transmit the  
> prefix.  Vickie Weir
>
> Ryan Dour wrote:
>>
>> I'm using the WASP wws500. I'm going to return it and get the  
>> MetroLogic Voyager BT.
>>
>> I used the Voyager BT at work, and on the same physical objects I  
>> had much better accuracy.
>>
>> RYan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2009, at 1:00 AM, John Weir wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan, Just listened.  IT is great!!  What bar code reader were you  
>>> using and what is thename of the laser one so I can look eachup.   
>>> I didnt get the script you mentioned. Certainly worth going  
>>> further, maybe a small program on a disk we could enter into the  
>>> mac to run with Alex  and VO. and eventually an IPHONE app that we  
>>> could download from tunes.  Vickie Weir
>>>
>>> Ryan Dour wrote:
 Hello,

 I borrowed a neat condenser mic from work called the Blue Bird.  
 Blue
 makes really interesting mics. So, I thought, what a great  
 opportunity
 to make a quickie demo of my use of the barcode reader? It should  
 help
 explain this a bit more for those of you who may have been  
 wondering
 what exactly we were getting at here on the list with the crazy UPC
 talk.

 http://ryandour.com/audio/other/barcode-experiment.mp3

 Click the link above, if you're using Safari the file should just
 play. Send me your feedback and let me know if this clears up any
 confusion the thread may have introduced. Also, let me know if you
 think this is as exciting a possibility as I think it may be. The
 first time I scanned a barcode into google I knew this was going  
 to be
 a life changing thing for me.

 Thanks,
 Ryan





>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >


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Re: music distorting in vlc.

2009-09-16 Thread Søren Jensen

Hi.

The music destortion happens when you set the volume in VLC to  
maximum. If you turn the volume down so it's the same as voiceover it  
shouldn't happen.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:38 PM, anouk radix wrote:

>
> Hello, first of all I want to confirm what others hve already said,
> vlc works fine in sl. It crashes on me on occasion if i leave it open
> for hours on end without using it but if i keep it in active use when
> working on the mac everything is fine.
> There is a strange thing happening though. Because I have my computer
> connected to an external dac/preamp i have my computers volume set at
> 100percent and i have the vlc volume to max as well. This approach
> worked fine in winbdows with foobar and i could control the voolume of
> my headphones on my external dac. Here though the sound is distorting
> a lot while the volume is not high at all. Is vlc applying extra gain
> or something? I use command-up arrow to set volume in vlc to maximum
> but as i said even though the osund is not high at all and the volume
> on my external usb dac/amp is uite low, still a lot of distorting is
> going on.
> Can someone explain?
> I know that the system volume is not to blaim because voicover alex is
> fine, alex is set to max volume and so is system volume and still no
> problems, so i know the problem is with vlc.
> Greetings, Anouk
>
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Re: scripting voiceover

2009-09-16 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn

Did you make any progress with this? I was remembering that there is  
an "encoding" header in e-mails that might suggest the language the  
message was sent in. I don't know enough about internationalization to  
know if ISO 8859-1  is just for English or for all Latin based  
languages.

Has there been any progress on a active mailing list for development  
of blind friendly extensions to Macintosh systems?

Jonathan

On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Barry header wrote:

>
> There is an interactive tutorial at: 
> http://www.macosxautomation.com/applescript/firsttutorial/index.html
>
> You can also get to  the Apple script language guide from the script
> editor help menu.
>
> On Sep 7, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Randy Stegall wrote:
>
>>
>> Where can those of us who do not know apple script find a beginner's
>> guide?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Snow Leopard and mail preview pane

2009-09-16 Thread Bob Hill

Hi all,

I received and installed my copy of Snow Leopard last week, and now  
want to turn off the preview pane in mail.

Is there a different procedure for doing this in mail now?
clicking on the horizontal splitters doesn't seem to work.
I have mouse cursor ignores VO cursor set in navigation

Any suggestions ire appreciated.

Bob Hill


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Re: PeachPit press and training.

2009-09-16 Thread igor_kaplan

Hi Darcy and all,

Regarding SafariBooksOnline, you have to call or write them and ask
for 5008 compliant access. I just subscribed to them and they gave me
the html-only access. Works pritty fine and all Apple training books
are accessible.

I also bought the book some time ago directly from Peach Pit Press
and was very disappoint to find out that I spent $39 for nothing.
Writing to them did not give anything, they said, that at most they
could return me the book price, however finally they did not do even
that. I found the way around, I was able to print from Adobe digital
using Office image as a printer, then used the OCR program to convert
image into text. Actually I got a pritty good text, however I
definitely will not buy anything anymore from them. SafariBooksOnline
actually contain all there titles and now it is accessible so I am
fine.

  All the best.
   Igor.

Darcy Burnard wrote:
> Hi Jonathan.  Personally I've not had much luck with Peach Pit Press
> titles.  I tried to get their apple script book.  I bought it, but it
> was in adobe digital editions format, which is not accessible as far
> as I know.
> The book is also on safari books, but it isn't readable there either.
> It's only available in their print fidelity mode, which is not
> accessible either.  This may not be the case with all peach pit
> titles, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
> Darcy
>
> On 2009-09-14, at 5:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anybody know if the PeachPit books used for Apple certifications
> > are available in a Daisy or audible format?  I have been thinking
> > about getting some official training, and I saw that Apple uses books
> > from the PeachPit press. A few years ago, I would have just gone out
> > and bought the book and struggled with it page every 1/2 hour. But I
> > don't think I could even accomplish that now.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
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Re: interaction

2009-09-16 Thread william lomas

anne i don't use the tab key I mean in general when interacting with  
voiceover shift down arrow it is auto interacting

On 16 Sep 2009, at 13:03, Anne Robertson wrote:

>
> Hello Will,
>
> To turn off automatic interaction when tabbing around, go to VoiceOver
> Utility and uncheck that setting in the Navigation category.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:58 AM, william lomas wrote:
>
>>
>>  hi can i stop the auto interaction of items when in the 
>> finder?
>> every time i move over an item in my side bar it keeps interacting
>> without me doing anything in snowleopard
>> thanks will
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: interaction

2009-09-16 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Will,

To turn off automatic interaction when tabbing around, go to VoiceOver  
Utility and uncheck that setting in the Navigation category.

Cheers,

Anne

On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:58 AM, william lomas wrote:

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>   hi can i stop the auto interaction of items when in the 
> finder?
> every time i move over an item in my side bar it keeps interacting
> without me doing anything in snowleopard
> thanks will
>
>
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32 bit versus 64 bit

2009-09-16 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if any of you felt any change when booting SL with 64  
bit. I can feel a slight increase in performance with sl in default  
mode, and strangely, voice over gets better and better as i use the  
computer, in terms of lag after hitting a key. go figure why.

I wanted to know if there is a way to boot up in 64 by default at each  
boot. Or is that in the works?

Best

Yuma

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Re: a way to OCR images on wep pages

2009-09-16 Thread Matthew Campbell

If it was saved at a high resolution how then would I go about Running  
OCR on it accessibly?
On 2009-09-15, at 8:09 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:

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> Unless the image was saved at a very high resolution, over 300 dpi it
> is unlikely that you would be able to OCR it.
>
>
> Gregory Kearney
> Manager - Accessible Media
> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
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> On 16/09/2009, at 7:40 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello list members.
>> I'm wondering if there is a way to OCR text in an image on web pages.
>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>
>>>
>
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interaction

2009-09-16 Thread william lomas

hi can i stop the auto interaction of items when in the 
finder?  
every time i move over an item in my side bar it keeps interacting  
without me doing anything in snowleopard
thanks will


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Re: Using Voice Over with Web Roter in Safari

2009-09-16 Thread Krister Ekstrom

Hi,
The few times i've used the web rotor, i haven't noticed this problem.  
This doesn't mean it doesn't exist, only that i haven't seen it.
/Krister

15 sep 2009 kl. 13.43 skrev James & Nash:

>
> Hi folks,
>
> Has anyone noticed that Voice over occasionally restarts at least the
> first time you use the Web Roter function? This happens regardless of
> whether you are in Group mode or DOM mode. Has anyone found a work
> around for this. I will report this to Apple but I just anted to know
> what others thought too.
>
> Thanks
>
> Take care
>
> James
>
> >


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Re: Spotify for iPhone

2009-09-16 Thread David Hole

Hello Thuy and rest of ye folks.
I don't see this as a big problem.
It's great that those who pay gets some privilegues (or what it's called 
in english) :)
This will also help the rest of the music industry to put more money 
into this concept.
By now there are lots of albums where one can't listen to some songs 
becoz the artist or label have said so.
Whith people paying more then they're doing right now, maybe they'll let 
people using spotify listen to this songs too.
If Spotify is accessible for the iPhone or iPod Touch, maybe then I'll 
go out get one...
-David

Thuy skrev:
> You have to have a premium account to be able to use the mobile
> version of spotify! Very annoying!
> 
> 
> On 14/09/2009, David Hole  wrote:
>> Well, John.
>> You can't try the free Spotify if you don't have an invite.
>>
>> John André Netland skrev:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I have not used this app on any platform, but I will check the free
>>> version on iPHone later today if you like. In many cases, an iPhone
>>> app can be fully accessible on the iPhone, even though the developer
>>> don't care about it at all, and even though it may be inaccessible on
>>> the Mac or Windows platform. That's the beauty of how Apple is
>>> implementing accessibility into their frameworks now. I have spoke
>>> with norwegian iPHone app developers that tells me they have not been
>>> aware about the accessibility with VoiceOver issue, but simply
>>> followed Apple's guidelines in programming, and created fully VO
>>> compatible apps.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John André
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14. sep. 2009, at 14.21, David Hole wrote:
>>>
 Hello Tony and rest of ye.
 I have Spotify on both Windows and Mac.
 On Windows, with jaws, you have to use the jaws-marker to brows
 around.
 On the Mac, it's only possible to search for something, and play the
 result without further browsing. :(
 I've also mailed them a half year ago, and then they said they're not
 gonna do something with accessibility in the near future :(
 But if enough people request accessibility, maybe they change their
 minds...
 So, for those who want to check it out, go to http://www.spotify.com
 and
 register for an account (With invite, it's free. 1 moth pass, 99 NOK.
 and 1 year subscription, 999 NOK. 1 day pass isn't possible for new
 subscribers. (NOK = Norwegian kroner))
 Regards David

 Tony Bernedal skrev:
> Hi.
> I don't think it worth trying. it is completely not accessible on the
> mac and windows so I think it is not accessible for iphone too. I
> have
> tried mailing them about it but no answer.
> Regards Tony
>
>
> 2009/9/14, Esther :
>> Hi,
>>
>> David Hole wrote:
>>
>>> Have anyone of you out there tried Spotify on iPhone?
>>> Note: You US users can't use Spotify as far as I know.
>> According to the Spotify web page, you're looking for someone from:
>> Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France or Spain.  Or else someone
>> who
>> has a jailbroken iPhone or iPod Touch and put on the Spot app from
>> Cydia.
>>
>> Here's the iTunes Store URL (for those countries for which it is
>> legal):
>>
>> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=324684580&mt=8
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>>
>>>
>>
> 
> > 


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Re: Spotify for iPhone

2009-09-16 Thread Thuy

You have to have a premium account to be able to use the mobile
version of spotify! Very annoying!


On 14/09/2009, David Hole  wrote:
>
> Well, John.
> You can't try the free Spotify if you don't have an invite.
>
> John André Netland skrev:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I have not used this app on any platform, but I will check the free
>> version on iPHone later today if you like. In many cases, an iPhone
>> app can be fully accessible on the iPhone, even though the developer
>> don't care about it at all, and even though it may be inaccessible on
>> the Mac or Windows platform. That's the beauty of how Apple is
>> implementing accessibility into their frameworks now. I have spoke
>> with norwegian iPHone app developers that tells me they have not been
>> aware about the accessibility with VoiceOver issue, but simply
>> followed Apple's guidelines in programming, and created fully VO
>> compatible apps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John André
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14. sep. 2009, at 14.21, David Hole wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Tony and rest of ye.
>>> I have Spotify on both Windows and Mac.
>>> On Windows, with jaws, you have to use the jaws-marker to brows
>>> around.
>>> On the Mac, it's only possible to search for something, and play the
>>> result without further browsing. :(
>>> I've also mailed them a half year ago, and then they said they're not
>>> gonna do something with accessibility in the near future :(
>>> But if enough people request accessibility, maybe they change their
>>> minds...
>>> So, for those who want to check it out, go to http://www.spotify.com
>>> and
>>> register for an account (With invite, it's free. 1 moth pass, 99 NOK.
>>> and 1 year subscription, 999 NOK. 1 day pass isn't possible for new
>>> subscribers. (NOK = Norwegian kroner))
>>> Regards David
>>>
>>> Tony Bernedal skrev:
 Hi.
 I don't think it worth trying. it is completely not accessible on the
 mac and windows so I think it is not accessible for iphone too. I
 have
 tried mailing them about it but no answer.
 Regards Tony


 2009/9/14, Esther :
> Hi,
>
> David Hole wrote:
>
>> Have anyone of you out there tried Spotify on iPhone?
>> Note: You US users can't use Spotify as far as I know.
> According to the Spotify web page, you're looking for someone from:
> Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France or Spain.  Or else someone
> who
> has a jailbroken iPhone or iPod Touch and put on the Spot app from
> Cydia.
>
> Here's the iTunes Store URL (for those countries for which it is
> legal):
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=324684580&mt=8
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
>

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