Re: problems playing OGG files with VLC

2012-10-02 Thread Shen
Hi,
Most likely not. It's due to a decoding problem. You might try updating VLC to 
the latest version and see if the problem goes away. I'm playing ogg files in 
using VLC and have no problems.
The VLC version I have is 2.0.3 64-bit. Interesting it says 64-bit, but I have 
a 32-bit Mac.
Anyways, try that. Also, try encoding your files using constant nitrate instead 
of variable and see if that works.

On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:07 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I try to step forward or backward through an OGG file in VLC, my place 
 in the file jumps randomly.  Is there a way to fix this?
 Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Sorry about that; I was navigating the page once I was logged in.

Go to this page:
http://www.desura.com/games/blindside

Do a text search for $3.99 and click on the link with these words. You'll be 
presented with a cart.

I'd suggest doing a text search, because there is a lot of material on this 
page.

I assure you that I have this game and I've played it through once already. The 
link provided on blindsidegame.com is just not a direct download link, which 
makes it confusing.

Hope this helps, and let me know if I can help further.

Teresa


On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 does that mean the game is coming though? that would be pretty cool.
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
  Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 02/10/2012, at 8:02 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Are you sure this is still available.  I went to the link and there is no 
 dmg file to be found.  Of course, user error could be afoot, but I can only 
 find info that says the game is not yet avilable for the Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 Twitter, @macfortheblind
 
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 On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: Change

2012-10-02 Thread Steve Holmes
I really wish you guys would stop spamming the list! We get enough traffic on 
this list without receiving news letters about your company.

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 When you look at how long it took to go from a mostly analog world in the 
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 As a geek I couldn’t imagine not having the highest speed computer or 
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Re: Reading Epub Books on the Mac

2012-10-02 Thread Steve Holmes
I will give bookle a try.  So far, most of my ePub books are all DRM-free from 
other sources outside Apple.  Yes, iBooks for the mac would be the best because 
you could then sync books and bookmarks over iCloud like you can between iOS 
devices.

This will do for the time being.

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wrote:

 Bookle is an accessible app for reading DRM free ePub books on the Mac. It 
 can be found in the Mac app store.
 
 I agree there should be a Mac app for reading DRM protected books on the Mac. 
 It's strange Apple hasn't brought out iBooks for the Mac. It's a shame too, 
 as I quite like iBooks.
 
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Re: Take Control eBooks' September Sale

2012-10-02 Thread Steve Holmes
I really wish they would fix the tables all over their site.  Even my personal 
library of books thus purchased is a mess too.  VO will not go down past the 
first detail row in the table.  It jumps from row 3 back up to row 1 even if 
you have a dozen rows in the table.  I have never seen this anomaly anywhere 
else on the web.  VO's table navigation is generally quite good in HTML content.

On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 The sale has been extended to Wednesday 3 October.
 
 Also, and more importantly, Take Control have an accessible version of their 
 catalog. It can be found here:
 http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-accessible
 
 This is just a complete list of all their books in an accessible table. It is 
 much easier to navigate.
 
 The only problem with the accessible catalog is that discounts and sales are 
 not applied automatically. You need to enter the voucher code manually. 
 However, if you don't have this code, you can simply email Take Control Books 
 and ask for the code, explaining that you are using the accessible version of 
 their catalog. They are very helpful especially if you ask nicely.
 
 Best,
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Re: Mail has no windows.

2012-10-02 Thread Don Breda
I have done this as well and figured out wat to do.

I am a mac newby so there may be a better way but I hit command0 and
that brings the mesage viewer back so you can interact with the messages
table again.

Don


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Re: moving and renaming?

2012-10-02 Thread Steve Holmes
To move a file, first select the file in Finder and copy to clipboard with 
Command-C; then go to the folder where you want to put it; then press 
Command-Option-V to paste and delete original in same keystroke.

To rename the file, just hit the return key and type in the new name or edit 
what is currently there.

On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:56 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could someone remind me how to move and rename a file on the mac?
 
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Re: Mail has no windows.

2012-10-02 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thanks. I will try that next time.
Kawal.

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 I have done this as well and figured out wat to do.
 
 I am a mac newby so there may be a better way but I hit command0 and
 that brings the mesage viewer back so you can interact with the messages
 table again.
 
 Don
 
 
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Problem with Facebook app and push notifications, please help!

2012-10-02 Thread Chris

Hello all.
I use the official Facebook app, along with the new integration 
features, on my iPhone 4 running iOS 6.
Up until a few days ago, I could receive push notifications from my 
close friends list, or Facebook in general, no problem! But now, I am 
not getting them at all! I do however get them via e-mail and they show 
up on my news feed on the mobile site. So I know it is not a problem 
with Facebook itself, just the official app. I even tried reinstalling 
it to no avail.
I asked my friend Gary Price on Skype last night, and he is not having 
this issue on his iPhone 4 running iOS 6.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
Please reply as soon as possible.
Thanks so much!
Christopher Hallsworth.

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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-02 Thread Maria Chapman
Hi.

how well does it work?

will go look.

thanks 
regards
Maria and crew from australia
email:
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
check out 
www.powerradio104.us
where we play lots of great music



On 01/10/2012, at 6:12 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game for 
 the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: Hiding Tabs in Safari

2012-10-02 Thread Chris

It might be in Preferences, command-comma.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 03:57, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

Hello everyone,

When I assign certain web sites to the bookmarks bar, so when pressing 
command-1,2, or 3, ETC to launch, these sites appear as tabs on my screen.
How can I remove the viewing of these tabs? I don't want them to appear because 
I already know where they are assigned to. I never know how I accomplished this 
when using Snow Leopard because I was a new Mac user, so I never bothered with 
learning how to disable or hide this because I accomplished it unknowingly.
Any tip I am overlooking or not considering would be wonderfully appreciated.

Thank you all for your help.

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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
The game is actually much easier than the download process. Heh. Anyway, it's 
just arrow keys and shooting is the spacebar. Very easy.

Teresa

On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:09 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 how well does it work?
 
 will go look.
 
 thanks 
   regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 email:
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 check out 
 www.powerradio104.us
 where we play lots of great music
 
 
 
 On 01/10/2012, at 6:12 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: OT iTunes Gift Card Giveaway

2012-10-02 Thread Scott Davert
I'm not a mod or anything, but I think this is clasified as spam and
action should be taken. One message was bad enough, now we get the
news lettter too. I mean, if I had subscribed to the news letter,
obviously I wouldn't have an issue, but I feel like the list shouldn't
be a soundingboard for companies to advertize. I say this not being a
moderator or anything, just as someone who follows the list and enjoys
the otherwise useful info on it.

Thanks,
Scott

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 not to be offensive but why are you posting spam?
  also, wwho is really going to take time out of their day to do what you are
 asking of them? i don't even know why i'm writing this message. guess it's
 because nothing's going on at this point in time.
  i think i'm going to send this message and then read my bible. good day
 God Bless.
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 The Twit That Tweets iTunes Gift Card Giveaway


 You can win a $30 iTunes Gift Card just by following @fedora_outlier on
 Twitter! The rules are very simple. Follow @fedora_outlier on Twitter
 between now and November first and you’ll be in the drawing for a $30
 iTunes gift card.

 In addition to the iTunes gift card 3 lucky people will also win a copy of
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 iOS.

 Everyone is eligible unless you work for the firm, have already followed
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 share this with are welcomed to follow us as well.

 The winners will be announced on November 10th. If you have any questions
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-02 Thread Maria Chapman
Hi.  i could only find a purchase link.  are we meant to purchase this game?  
It's only 4 dollars australian but just wanted to make sure i was following the 
right links.

thanks

Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 02/10/2012, at 10:46 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 The game is actually much easier than the download process. Heh. Anyway, it's 
 just arrow keys and shooting is the spacebar. Very easy.
 
 Teresa
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:09 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 how well does it work?
 
 will go look.
 
 thanks 
  regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 email:
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 check out 
 www.powerradio104.us
 where we play lots of great music
 
 
 
 On 01/10/2012, at 6:12 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is not 
 available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-02 Thread Maria Chapman
HI. am downloading it now.  it also gives me the link for a windows version 
that's kind of cool. 

Surely it wouldn't let me have both?


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On 02/10/2012, at 5:46 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry about that; I was navigating the page once I was logged in.
 
 Go to this page:
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 Do a text search for $3.99 and click on the link with these words. You'll be 
 presented with a cart.
 
 I'd suggest doing a text search, because there is a lot of material on this 
 page.
 
 I assure you that I have this game and I've played it through once already. 
 The link provided on blindsidegame.com is just not a direct download link, 
 which makes it confusing.
 
 Hope this helps, and let me know if I can help further.
 
 Teresa
 
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 does that mean the game is coming though? that would be pretty cool.
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 02/10/2012, at 8:02 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Are you sure this is still available.  I went to the link and there is no 
 dmg file to be found.  Of course, user error could be afoot, but I can only 
 find info that says the game is not yet avilable for the Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
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 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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 On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is 
 not available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
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 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Apolagies To The List

2012-10-02 Thread Scott Rumery
Hello,

I would like to apologize to those of you that I offended by sending out a 
promotion for an iTunes gift card that my company is doing.  It was not my 
intention to send out spam and for the record I do not think what I did is 
spam, but I have noticed that a couple of you on this list thought that I was 
spamming the list.

We at Fedora Outlier are simply trying to spread the word about about the 
company and I thought that I would post the announcement here so that those of 
you that would like to be in the drawing could follow us and then be entered.

I will refrain from sending this list any more announcements about Fedora 
Outlier in the future.

Again, please accept my sincerest apologies.

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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Nope.

This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home works 
out the box.

hth

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
 VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the box 
 will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
 mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
 options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be 
 set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so there 
 is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
 visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and 
 how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
 podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
 software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: go 
 to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From there, 
 use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that 
 might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many 
 tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for 
 voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and 
 needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
 Cakes
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Thats because the phone was already set up with out Voiceover being enabled.  
You must turn on VO with a triple press of home during the setup for those to 
be the default configuration.

hth

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:12 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought I heard that too but I tried it recently on an iPhone 4S and it did 
 not work there.  I don't know its upgrade history, nor was I aware of what 
 mode the phone was in at that moment.  I was shown the phone in a case and I 
 thought I'd be smart and see if VO would turn on with triple click home and 
 nothing.  I think if I were buying a device right now, I would want to have 
 someone look over my shoulder or fire up iTunes for the first time to check 
 out the landscape as it were.
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 they changed that in ios5
 
 On 9/30/2012 9:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
 VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the 
 box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
 mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
 options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be 
 set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily 
 with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS 
 software and how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you 
 go through there podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts 
 relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
 podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: 
 go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
 there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
 that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are 
 many tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple 
 documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
 and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
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Re: How to start with Numbers?

2012-10-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi There  
I do this all the time on Numbers. First, when you press command O en a file, 
you should get the messaje that you are on layout. There are some other 
choices, but that's the one you want first. You need to interact on that one. 
Then, you should get a choice of tables. You can add tables somehow so that you 
have more than one, and I have done this accidentally. If you have done nothing 
yet to your file, you should have only one. Interact again on the table. Then 
you can see your rows and columns just like in Excel. VoiceOver does consider, 
as a default, the first row and the first column to be headers, which tells 
VoiceOver to let you know where you are. It announces these rows and columns 
for you as you move from place to place. 

I will say that right now there seems to be a bug in the new version of Numbers 
that the computer slows way down on very large files. I have one that is over 
100 rows, and it's slow to use. I have reported this to Apple. I hope they fix 
it soon. But for smaller files, this should not be a problem. With these big 
files, the pro#more seems to be with editing the cells. Copying and pasting 
doesn't seem to be a problem. However, after having said that, I can make it 
work ok, even though with a braille display it is possible to need to force 
quit like I had to do yesterday. If you're using a braille display, turning 
grade 2 braille off might help. 

Regards, 
Gigi  

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hello, I have just downloaded Numbers. I need to access and make changes to 
 existing Excel documents.
 I can load the documents ok. How do I get in to the columns and rows  in the 
 spreadsheet? 
 I have tried to interact with the document all with no luck.
 Thanks again as always for any help 
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Re: Finally!: An Audio Action/Adventure Game on the Mac!; BlindSide

2012-10-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hmmm, I'm not sure.

In my opinion, I think that even doing this, it's a steal of a price compared 
to other games for the blind. Also, this is supposedly one episode, so they may 
be doing more. They say it takes an average of an hour to play, but I'm a slow 
game-player, so it took me several.

Teresa

On Oct 2, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI. am downloading it now.  it also gives me the link for a windows version 
 that's kind of cool. 
 
 Surely it wouldn't let me have both?
 
 
   regards
 Maria and crew from australia
 email:
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 check out 
 www.powerradio104.us
 where we play lots of great music
 
 
 
 On 02/10/2012, at 5:46 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry about that; I was navigating the page once I was logged in.
 
 Go to this page:
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 Do a text search for $3.99 and click on the link with these words. You'll be 
 presented with a cart.
 
 I'd suggest doing a text search, because there is a lot of material on this 
 page.
 
 I assure you that I have this game and I've played it through once already. 
 The link provided on blindsidegame.com is just not a direct download link, 
 which makes it confusing.
 
 Hope this helps, and let me know if I can help further.
 
 Teresa
 
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 does that mean the game is coming though? that would be pretty cool.
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 02/10/2012, at 8:02 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Are you sure this is still available.  I went to the link and there is 
 no dmg file to be found.  Of course, user error could be afoot, but I can 
 only find info that says the game is not yet avilable for the Mac.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 Twitter, @macfortheblind
 
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 On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a link on the Blindside homepage for the download. I got the game 
 for the Mac. Go to the following page and do a VO search for DMG on the 
 page.
 http://www.desura.com/games/blindside
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:00 AM, craig J Dunlop craigjdun...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 After going up to the website it looks like the version for the Mac is 
 not available yet! I hope it will be soon though.
 On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 www.blindsidegame.com
 
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone workshop at 
our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We decided to test this 
because there was a discussion about tripple click home and whether this 
standard any more. It didn't work on any of the iPhones we had present, unless 
it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I guess too many of our sighted friends 
using iPhones turned VoiceOver on and couldn't figure out how to get it off. My 
husband said that at one time there was a link or something on the Apple 
website that said Turn VoiceOver off. I've noticed that some of these sighted 
folks panic when they get VoiceOver going. I guess that some of them don't 
listen to the hints. 

Gigi 


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home works 
 out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
 VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the 
 box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
 mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
 options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be 
 set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily 
 with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS 
 software and how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go 
 through there podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts 
 relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
 podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: 
 go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
 there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
 that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are 
 many tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple 
 documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
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 needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

but I don't understand.  How was this test conducted?  Was it devices just 
taken out the box or, restored to factory settings and turned on?

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone workshop 
 at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We decided to test 
 this because there was a discussion about tripple click home and whether this 
 standard any more. It didn't work on any of the iPhones we had present, 
 unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I guess too many of our 
 sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on and couldn't figure out how 
 to get it off. My husband said that at one time there was a link or something 
 on the Apple website that said Turn VoiceOver off. I've noticed that some 
 of these sighted folks panic when they get VoiceOver going. I guess that some 
 of them don't listen to the hints. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home works 
 out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
 VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the 
 box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
 mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
 options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be 
 set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily 
 with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS 
 software and how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you 
 go through there podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts 
 relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his 
 podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: 
 go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
 there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
 that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are 
 many tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple 
 documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
 and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
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Re: braille display

2012-10-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys. 
There are some very good reasons to use 40 cells instead of 32 for some people. 
This 40 cell one I have is much lighter than my Focus 40 that I'm about to give 
back to the state of Texas. 

For one thing, if you use Web Braille, the files are done with 38 cells as the 
righthand margin. Although you can read in Web Braille with fewer cells than 
40, you are always assured of getting a complete braille line with a 40 cell 
display. A 40 cell line is standard with NLS. 

Although the display is longer with a 40 cell ddvice, this particular one is 
not awkward like some of them can be with a longer display. I think it depends 
how heavy the device is. One of these days, when I feel like it, I may get one 
of those little bitty ones for the iPhone. I can't justify the cost right now 
because this little thing is pretty to use with the iPhone, what with the light 
leather carrying case and all. 

Regards, 
Gigi 
 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 The brailliant display has in my opinion much better braille cells. The 
 brailliant has a much better carrying case, it can not fall out, the focus 
 can fall out of the bag. You can have the brailliant display sitting on your 
 knees, that can be a little insecure with the focus. There are some 
 advantages with the focus as well, but to me the braille cells seems noisy.
 
 I sometimes wonder why most blind people are choosing 40 cells braille 
 displays. I feel much better with something like 32 cells, and it is a little 
 more handy too.
 
 The only thing I do not like about brailliant is that I sometimes experience 
 problems with the bluetooth conectivity on IPhone, but maybe that has been 
 solved on IPhone 5, it looks like there has been some improvements in IOS 6.
 
 I am both using brailliant and focus. It is important that your student tries 
 the displays, because it is so different how the display works for 
 individuals.
 Best regards Annie.
 
 Den Oct 2, 2012 kl. 12:29 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Marianne,
 
 I strongly recommend the Focus since your student is a Jaws user.  
 
 There are definite user advantages to using the Focus with Jaws such as
 being able to set the level of Braille firmness.  This is one of my favorite
 features.  
 
 I also like the ability to reverse the Braille panning directions on the
 Focus.  I am not certain if this is a Focus specific setting in Jaws, but it
 is definitely a proverbial game changer for me.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 3:18 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: braille display
 
 Scott, I think I have narrowed it down to either the Brailliant 40 or Focus
 40.  Since he uses JAWS the Focus 40 may be the better choice.
 That is what I am hoping to learn.
 
 On 10/1/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 Hello out there.
 I just bought a new braille display, and so far I like it. It is new 
 to the Mac and IOS devices. I got the Braille Edge 40 this past 
 weekend. The inputs are actually doing better than I was having with 
 my Focus 40. I didn't have ghluetooth before, and I do not now. This 
 display also can be a stand-alone device. It doesn't go on the 
 Internet like say my PacMate in theory does, but I decided I didn't need
 that, what with having the Mac and the iPhone.
 
 So far the only thing I'm having is loosing connection with the iPhone 
 and having to re-establish it. This only has happened when I turn the 
 Braille display off or get out of communication with the iPhone. I may 
 have to inquiffe about that. It doesn't lose contact while operating 
 so far, and I didn't have the same problem with the Mac. I've only had 
 it since Friday, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. If anybody has 
 any ideas, please let me know.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So 
 does Freedom Scientific.
 
 
 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am 
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This 
 student has excellent skills with access technology.  The student 
 will be using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 
 7.  JAWS is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display 
 but not too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell
 display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote 
 too.
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Ricardo.
I have done this test with several devices that sighted have had where they 
have never turned VoiceOver on or off. It didn't work with theirs either. In 
this case, some sighted folks had some iPhones there and they tried it on 
theirs. It didn't work. So, it was recommended that people check it out first 
before leaving the store to be sure it work and not just assume that it would. 

Now, it could be that some of these stores are messing with the settings 
because they don't want their customers turning VoiceOver on accidentally. 
That's the best answer I can give. 

Regards, 
Gigi 


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 but I don't understand.  How was this test conducted?  Was it devices just 
 taken out the box or, restored to factory settings and turned on?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone workshop 
 at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We decided to test 
 this because there was a discussion about tripple click home and whether 
 this standard any more. It didn't work on any of the iPhones we had present, 
 unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I guess too many of our 
 sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on and couldn't figure out 
 how to get it off. My husband said that at one time there was a link or 
 something on the Apple website that said Turn VoiceOver off. I've noticed 
 that some of these sighted folks panic when they get VoiceOver going. I 
 guess that some of them don't listen to the hints. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home 
 works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
 VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the 
 box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
 mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access 
 options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can 
 be set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the 
 home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
 ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
 primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with 
 iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If 
 you go through there podcasts section, you will find your share of 
 podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David Woodbridge also you can 
 find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: 
 go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
 there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
 that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are 
 many tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple 
 documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
 and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John
 
 Cakes
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Tim, the tripple click has always worked since I O S 5 by default, provided you 
do it during the setup screens.  At that point, it's enabled from that point 
forward.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Berry 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 4:56 PM
  Subject: Re: iPad


  Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had control of the triple click home.



  On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi, 


As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the box 
will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As mentioned 
earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access options through 
iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be set.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:


  just hit the home button 3 times
  On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and how 
voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I 
hope this helps.

Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that 
might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many 
tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for 
voiceover.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:


  Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John

  Cakes

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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm so sorry, I called you Tim, didn't I.  Shows what happens when you get 
accaried away checking e-mail, and aren't paying attention.  My bad, Scott.  
Forgive me.  LOL!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Berry 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 4:56 PM
  Subject: Re: iPad


  Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had control of the triple click home.



  On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi, 


As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the box 
will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As mentioned 
earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access options through 
iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be set.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:


  just hit the home button 3 times
  On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and how 
voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I 
hope this helps.

Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that 
might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many 
tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for 
voiceover.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:


  Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John

  Cakes

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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Pam,

Even if they did have a first generation, that wouldn't matter at all.  This 
has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware specification like what 
generation... this depends on what version of IOS.  Ever since I O S 5, you've 
been able to do this.

Chris.

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  From: Pam Francis 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: iPad


  Hi folks,
  I got my iphone 4s on Friday. I hit tripple click home right out of the box. 
It worked. It also worked with my ipad II purchase last summer. The previous 
poster must have a 1st gen ipad.

  Pam Francis

  On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:


  Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had control of the triple click home.



  On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi, 


As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle 
VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the box 
will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As mentioned 
earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access options through 
iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be set.


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada


On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:


  just hit the home button 3 times
  On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and how 
voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I 
hope this helps.

Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From 
there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that 
might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many 
tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for 
voiceover.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:


  Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John

  Cakes

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RE: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello everyone. To get around this, you could either purchase the device
online or insist that the store sell you a device that hasn't been touched
by a store employee. People in stores want to make sure everything is set up
before a customer leaves the store. For some of us, part of the fun is the
pure joy of being able to open a box and set everything up ourselves. 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad

 

Tim, the tripple click has always worked since I O S 5 by default, provided
you do it during the setup screens.  At that point, it's enabled from that
point forward.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Scott Berry mailto:sb356...@gmail.com  

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: iPad

 

Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had control of the triple click home.



On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi, 

 

As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to Toggle
VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of the
box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As
mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access
options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be
set.

 

Later...

 

Tim Kilburn

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:





just hit the home button 3 times
On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:



Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking the
home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within
ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping
settings/accessibility/voiceover.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so there
is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with
visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and
how voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa
software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes.
I hope this helps.

Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, though: go
to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. From there,
use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com that might
help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many tutorials
and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for voiceover.
On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:




Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one and
needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John

Cakes

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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
John, I'm an Apple trainer.  I won't charge anything just to help get her set 
up.  Obviously passed that point, if she wants private lessons I could do them 
ovedr Skype, or the phone but there would be a small fee.  Just the initial 
setup though, I never ever charge people for that.  If she needs any more help 
getting Voiceover on or started, let me know.  Even with a first gen, it can be 
done with no sighted help.  Trust me, I've done it many many times.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Beefcakes 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:18 AM
  Subject: Re: iPad


  Hi all, I'm the guy who wrote about a friends iPad. Actually she does have a 
first generation iPad. So she's trying to learn how she can access it, if  it 
has vo on itif etcetera. Anyway thanks for all the help everybody, you guys are 
great! John

  Cakes

  On Oct 1, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote:


Actually once I set VO via Itunes I had control of the triple click home.



On 9/30/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

  Hi, 


  As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that out of 
the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default lately.  As 
mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the Universal Access options 
through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the Triple-Click toggle can be set.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:


just hit the home button 3 times
On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

  Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on within 
ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.

  Chris.

  - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
  Subject: Re: iPad


  Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works primarily with 
visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing with iOS software and how 
voiceover works. His name is David Woodbridge.  If you go through there 
podcasts section, you will find your share of podcasts relating to Iowa 
software done by David Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I 
hope this helps.

  Pam Francis

  On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

  Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it on. 
From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on applevis.com 
that might help. Googling specific questions will also help as there are many 
tutorials and articles out there, plus the official Apple documentation for 
voiceover.
  On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:


Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad 
one and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, John

Cakes

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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Again, as Ricardo said, the tripple click won't work by default, unless it 
was pressed initially during the setup screen.  If you all were trying to do 
this after the IPhones had been set up and configured, that's then why it 
didn't work on any of the units.  Trust me, I've been a dev for quite some 
time, so I think I should know what I'm talking about.


Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone workshop 
at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We decided to test 
this because there was a discussion about tripple click home and whether 
this standard any more. It didn't work on any of the iPhones we had present, 
unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I guess too many of our 
sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on and couldn't figure out 
how to get it off. My husband said that at one time there was a link or 
something on the Apple website that said Turn VoiceOver off. I've noticed 
that some of these sighted folks panic when they get VoiceOver going. I 
guess that some of them don't listen to the hints.


Gigi


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Nope.

This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home 
works out the box.


hth

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On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default 
lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the 
Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
Triple-Click toggle can be set.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:


just hit the home button 3 times
On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
settings/accessibility/voiceover.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing 
with iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David 
Woodbridge.  If you go through there podcasts section, you will find 
your share of podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David 
Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.


Pam Francis

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it 
on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on 
applevis.com that might help. Googling specific questions will also 
help as there are many tutorials and articles out there, plus the 
official Apple documentation for voiceover.

On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:

Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, 
John


Cakes

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Re: Apolagies To The List

2012-10-02 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi.

Well, I've seen mails from you before, so I didn't thought it was spam. I am 
looking forward to receive my gift card, which I hope will work in the danish 
iTunes.
Best regards:
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Mail  MSN:
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Den 02/10/2012 kl. 15.25 skrev Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com:

 Hello,
 
 I would like to apologize to those of you that I offended by sending out a 
 promotion for an iTunes gift card that my company is doing.  It was not my 
 intention to send out spam and for the record I do not think what I did is 
 spam, but I have noticed that a couple of you on this list thought that I was 
 spamming the list.
 
 We at Fedora Outlier are simply trying to spread the word about about the 
 company and I thought that I would post the announcement here so that those 
 of you that would like to be in the drawing could follow us and then be 
 entered.
 
 I will refrain from sending this list any more announcements about Fedora 
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How to download ebooks from christianbook.com

2012-10-02 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, I hope everybody will excuse that I am going to post this to three lists 
but at least I am going to send separately to each list. I thought this might 
be really helpful to some who may have been as frustrated as I was.

I have bought several ebooks from Christianbook.com. I could read them online 
but aside from a copy-and-paste procedure that only worked on Snow Leopard 
below 10.6.8, I could not download the books to my computer. Also, when I tried 
it with Adobe Digital Editions 2.0 on my computer in Windows, the fact that i 
had ADE installed wasn't even recognized but if I allowed the ADE to be 
installed from Christianbook.com in Windows it was inaccessible. Trying to 
download from the Mac was really frustrating because you could see the message 
to close the window from the flash player but couldn't access the link to 
download the item.

I emailed Christianbook specifically about updating their version of ADE and 
they wrote back suggesting I right-click. So I decided to try this on the Mac. 
To my dismay, setting a keyboard commander command for right click did not work 
even though I had the mouse lined up correctly; it just dinged at me. Doing 
vo-shift-m brought up a seven item menu which didn't include downloading the 
linked file.

Finally, I went into System Preferences  Trackpad and under the point and 
click tab, I changed the secondary click menu to click in bottom right 
corner. This time when i lined up my mouse on the download link for a book 
and pressed the bottom right corner of the trackpad, and eight-item menu opened 
with both download linked file and another to save as. I have now tried this 
with three books and two times it downloaded the actual epub file. One time it 
downloaded the urllink file which downloaded the epub when opened in ADE.

I hope this will be as helpful to somebody else as it was to me. I have spent 
the greater part of the last two days stewing over this and trying to get 
something to work to download ebooks from this site. I no longer need to cling 
to Snow Leopard 10.6.7 on my old mac mini which threatens never to start up 
again every time I shut it down! I again apologize for posting this to three 
lists but I know that some people only subscribe to one of these.


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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Right.  But as I'm trying to explain, that is expected behavior.  The term out 
the box pretty much means just that.  Voiceover being enabled with a triple 
press of home only works when the device is being set up either, straight from 
the factory when you first get the device and open its box or, you restore your 
device to factory  settings and are doing the set up again.  If a sighted 
person sets up your device, and they do not use voiceover, voiceover can not be 
enabled by default with a triple press of home.  You would then need to connect 
your phone to your computer and use iTunes to enable VO or, have a sighted 
person do it for you.  Again, this is standard behavior.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Ricardo.
 I have done this test with several devices that sighted have had where they 
 have never turned VoiceOver on or off. It didn't work with theirs either. In 
 this case, some sighted folks had some iPhones there and they tried it on 
 theirs. It didn't work. So, it was recommended that people check it out first 
 before leaving the store to be sure it work and not just assume that it 
 would. 
 
 Now, it could be that some of these stores are messing with the settings 
 because they don't want their customers turning VoiceOver on accidentally. 
 That's the best answer I can give. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 but I don't understand.  How was this test conducted?  Was it devices just 
 taken out the box or, restored to factory settings and turned on?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone workshop 
 at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We decided to test 
 this because there was a discussion about triple click home and whether 
 this standard any more. It didn't work on any of the iPhones we had 
 present, unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I guess too many of 
 our sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on and couldn't figure 
 out how to get it off. My husband said that at one time there was a link or 
 something on the Apple website that said Turn VoiceOver off. I've noticed 
 that some of these sighted folks panic when they get VoiceOver going. I 
 guess that some of them don't listen to the hints. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home 
 works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
 Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
 out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default 
 lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the 
 Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
 Triple-Click toggle can be set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
 the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
 within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
 primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing 
 with iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David 
 Woodbridge.  If you go through there podcasts section, you will find 
 your share of podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David 
 Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
 though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it 
 on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on 
 applevis.com that might help. Googling specific questions will also 
 help as there are many tutorials and articles out there, plus the 
 official Apple 

Re: problems playing OGG files with VLC

2012-10-02 Thread Mark Baxter
I'm apparently only at 1.0.3, even though I vividly remember upgrading to what 
I thought was 3.0.  Probably the problem.


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Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in programs together

2012-10-02 Thread keith weatherly
I want to link those programs together for recording perposes. for podcasting 
as well as music recording. I would also like to moniter myself while doing all 
of this. you know be able to hear everything that is going on as well as myself 
if i speak into the mic. I want to be able to speak and be able to play music 
in the background,record skype calls and . I hope i wasn't too comfusion. 
Sorry it to me so long to respond but my email for some unknown reason would 
not go out. I was able to recieve all my mail but i just couldn't send any out. 
Today it decides to let me. lol Anyway thanks in advance for any help. I do 
have a macbook,usb headset as well as a audio enterface with studeo mics with 
those programs i listed before.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gavin Grundlingh 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:21 PM
  Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
programs together


  Hi Keith,


  What is it you want the 4 programs to do together? I could give you 
step-by-step instructions, but to do that I'd have to know your particular 
setup so I can say exactly what to do where.


  Regards,


  Gavin Grundlingh
  Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
  Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
  Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
  Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
  Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
  Skype: Batworx
  Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx
  Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx


  On 29 Sep 2012, at 10:02 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
wrote:


my subject says what i'm trying to do could someone kindly walk me through 
this p proccess? r


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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Kimberly thurman
I got a brand new iPhone 5 delivered last Thursday from Sprint, and triple 
click of the home button did not turn VO on right out of the box.  When  my 
sighted husband got home, the set up screen was up asking what language I would 
like, etc., but no VO with triple  click home.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

 Hi Ricardo.
 I have done this test with several devices that sighted have had where they 
 have never turned VoiceOver on or off. It didn't work with theirs either. In 
 this case, some sighted folks had some iPhones there and they tried it on 
 theirs. It didn't work. So, it was recommended that people check it out first 
 before leaving the store to be sure it work and not just assume that it 
 would. 
 
 Now, it could be that some of these stores are messing with the settings 
 because they don't want their customers turning VoiceOver on accidentally. 
 That's the best answer I can give. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 but I don't understand.  How was this test conducted?  Was it devices just 
 taken out the box or, restored to factory settings and turned on?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone workshop 
 at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We decided to test 
 this because there was a discussion about tripple click home and whether 
 this standard any more. It didn't work on any of the iPhones we had 
 present, unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I guess too many of 
 our sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on and couldn't figure 
 out how to get it off. My husband said that at one time there was a link or 
 something on the Apple website that said Turn VoiceOver off. I've noticed 
 that some of these sighted folks panic when they get VoiceOver going. I 
 guess that some of them don't listen to the hints. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home 
 works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
 Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
 out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default 
 lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the 
 Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
 Triple-Click toggle can be set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
 the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
 within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
 primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing 
 with iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David 
 Woodbridge.  If you go through there podcasts section, you will find 
 your share of podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David 
 Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
 though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it 
 on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on 
 applevis.com that might help. Googling specific questions will also 
 help as there are many tutorials and articles out there, plus the 
 official Apple documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes beefca...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi everybody, is there and I've had list for the mine has an iPad one 
 and needs to know how to get voiceover on it going. Thanks so much, 
 John
 
 Cakes
 
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Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in programs together

2012-10-02 Thread keith weatherly
i have a macbook running snow lepard.
  - Original Message - 
  From: keith weatherly 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:18 PM
  Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
programs together


  I want to link those programs together for recording perposes. for podcasting 
as well as music recording. I would also like to moniter myself while doing all 
of this. you know be able to hear everything that is going on as well as myself 
if i speak into the mic. I want to be able to speak and be able to play music 
in the background,record skype calls and . I hope i wasn't too comfusion. 
Sorry it to me so long to respond but my email for some unknown reason would 
not go out. I was able to recieve all my mail but i just couldn't send any out. 
Today it decides to let me. lol Anyway thanks in advance for any help. I do 
have a macbook,usb headset as well as a audio enterface with studeo mics with 
those programs i listed before.  
- Original Message - 
From: Gavin Grundlingh 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
programs together


Hi Keith, 


What is it you want the 4 programs to do together? I could give you 
step-by-step instructions, but to do that I'd have to know your particular 
setup so I can say exactly what to do where.


Regards,


Gavin Grundlingh
Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
Skype: Batworx
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx
Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx


On 29 Sep 2012, at 10:02 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
wrote:


  my subject says what i'm trying to do could someone kindly walk me 
through this p proccess? r


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Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in programs together

2012-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I would just use audio hijack pro and record all system audio.  I think that 
would be way easier and efficient.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:18 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
wrote:

 I want to link those programs together for recording perposes. for podcasting 
 as well as music recording. I would also like to moniter myself while doing 
 all of this. you know be able to hear everything that is going on as well as 
 myself if i speak into the mic. I want to be able to speak and be able to 
 play music in the background,record skype calls and . I hope i wasn't too 
 comfusion. Sorry it to me so long to respond but my email for some unknown 
 reason would not go out. I was able to recieve all my mail but i just 
 couldn't send any out. Today it decides to let me. lol Anyway thanks in 
 advance for any help. I do have a macbook,usb headset as well as a audio 
 enterface with studeo mics with those programs i listed before.  
 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Grundlingh
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
 programs together
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 What is it you want the 4 programs to do together? I could give you 
 step-by-step instructions, but to do that I'd have to know your particular 
 setup so I can say exactly what to do where.
 
 Regards,
 
 Gavin Grundlingh
 Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
 Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
 Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
 Skype: Batworx
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx
 
 On 29 Sep 2012, at 10:02 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
 wrote:
 
 my subject says what i'm trying to do could someone kindly walk me through 
 this p proccess? r
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Did you check your volume?  I got an iPhone 5 as weel from sprint and, triple 
press of home did turn on VO, and on that very screen with the different 
languages.  The volume was turned down almost all the way.  I did a 2 finger 
flick up, and increased the volume.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I got a brand new iPhone 5 delivered last Thursday from Sprint, and triple 
 click of the home button did not turn VO on right out of the box.  When  my 
 sighted husband got home, the set up screen was up asking what language I 
 would like, etc., but no VO with triple  click home.
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
 
 Hi Ricardo.
 I have done this test with several devices that sighted have had where they 
 have never turned VoiceOver on or off. It didn't work with theirs either. In 
 this case, some sighted folks had some iPhones there and they tried it on 
 theirs. It didn't work. So, it was recommended that people check it out 
 first before leaving the store to be sure it work and not just assume that 
 it would. 
 
 Now, it could be that some of these stores are messing with the settings 
 because they don't want their customers turning VoiceOver on accidentally. 
 That's the best answer I can give. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 but I don't understand.  How was this test conducted?  Was it devices just 
 taken out the box or, restored to factory settings and turned on?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone 
 workshop at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We 
 decided to test this because there was a discussion about tripple click 
 home and whether this standard any more. It didn't work on any of the 
 iPhones we had present, unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I 
 guess too many of our sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on 
 and couldn't figure out how to get it off. My husband said that at one 
 time there was a link or something on the Apple website that said Turn 
 VoiceOver off. I've noticed that some of these sighted folks panic when 
 they get VoiceOver going. I guess that some of them don't listen to the 
 hints. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home 
 works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
 Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
 out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default 
 lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the 
 Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
 Triple-Click toggle can be set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
 the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
 within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
 primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing 
 with iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David 
 Woodbridge.  If you go through there podcasts section, you will find 
 your share of podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David 
 Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
 though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn it 
 on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers on 
 applevis.com that might help. Googling specific questions will also 
 help as there are many tutorials and articles out there, plus the 
 official Apple documentation for voiceover.
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Beefcakes 

Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Kimberly thurman
YOu know, I don't think I did that.  H!
On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Did you check your volume?  I got an iPhone 5 as weel from sprint and, triple 
 press of home did turn on VO, and on that very screen with the different 
 languages.  The volume was turned down almost all the way.  I did a 2 finger 
 flick up, and increased the volume.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I got a brand new iPhone 5 delivered last Thursday from Sprint, and triple 
 click of the home button did not turn VO on right out of the box.  When  my 
 sighted husband got home, the set up screen was up asking what language I 
 would like, etc., but no VO with triple  click home.
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
 
 Hi Ricardo.
 I have done this test with several devices that sighted have had where they 
 have never turned VoiceOver on or off. It didn't work with theirs either. 
 In this case, some sighted folks had some iPhones there and they tried it 
 on theirs. It didn't work. So, it was recommended that people check it out 
 first before leaving the store to be sure it work and not just assume that 
 it would. 
 
 Now, it could be that some of these stores are messing with the settings 
 because they don't want their customers turning VoiceOver on accidentally. 
 That's the best answer I can give. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 but I don't understand.  How was this test conducted?  Was it devices just 
 taken out the box or, restored to factory settings and turned on?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Ricardo, apparently that has been changed. AFB sponsored an iPhone 
 workshop at our recent ACB of Texas conference this past weekend. We 
 decided to test this because there was a discussion about tripple click 
 home and whether this standard any more. It didn't work on any of the 
 iPhones we had present, unless it was set up in the VoiceOver utility. I 
 guess too many of our sighted friends using iPhones turned VoiceOver on 
 and couldn't figure out how to get it off. My husband said that at one 
 time there was a link or something on the Apple website that said Turn 
 VoiceOver off. I've noticed that some of these sighted folks panic when 
 they get VoiceOver going. I guess that some of them don't listen to the 
 hints. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope.
 
 This has been standard since IOS 5.0.  Voiceover and triple press home 
 works out the box.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I know, you must first set up the Triple-click Home to 
 Toggle VoiceOver before that functionality will work.  Pressing that 
 out of the box will not turn on VO unless Apple has changed the default 
 lately.  As mentioned earlier, it may be easiest to configure the 
 Universal Access options through iTunes.  Then once VO is on, the 
 Triple-Click toggle can be set.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-09-30, at 8:18 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 just hit the home button 3 times
 On 9/30/2012 2:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
 Why do all that?  Can they not turn on voiceover by tripple clicking 
 the home key from the initial setup, or if nothing else, turn V O on 
 within ITunes?  If they're blind, it's gonna be a little hard tapping 
 settings/accessibility/voiceover.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pam Francis ppowell...@aol.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:04 AM
 Subject: Re: iPad
 
 
 Hello, I might to also assume that you are a brand-new iOS user if so 
 there is a gentleman on Apple this VIS Apple this.com who works 
 primarily with visually impaired and has done many podcasts dealing 
 with iOS software and how voiceover works. His name is David 
 Woodbridge.  If you go through there podcasts section, you will find 
 your share of podcasts relating to Iowa software done by David 
 Woodbridge also you can find his podcasts in iTunes. I hope this 
 helps.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try the accessible-ios google group. I can answer your question, 
 though: go to settings, general, accessibility, Voiceover, and turn 
 it on. From there, use the list I emntioned and/or find some primers 
 on applevis.com that might help. Googling specific questions will 
 also help as there are many tutorials and articles out 

Re: OT iTunes Gift Card Giveaway

2012-10-02 Thread Timothy Clark Music
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God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
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On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Scott Davert wrote:

 I'm not a mod or anything, but I think this is clasified as spam and
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 On 10/2/12, Timothy Clark Music timothyclarkmu...@me.com wrote:
 not to be offensive but why are you posting spam?
 also, wwho is really going to take time out of their day to do what you are
 asking of them? i don't even know why i'm writing this message. guess it's
 because nothing's going on at this point in time.
 i think i'm going to send this message and then read my bible. good day
 God Bless.
 Timothy.
 Your friend in the music industry
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
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 On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Scott Rumery wrote:
 
 The Twit That Tweets iTunes Gift Card Giveaway
 
 
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Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in programs together

2012-10-02 Thread Timothy Clark Music
i personally hate that program. 
 use the sound driver called sound flower. it's smaller and works better. 
 use the program linen to monitor everything. 
 if anyone needs help with it add me on Skype so as i can walk you through it 
 my Skype id is djtimothy1
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I would just use audio hijack pro and record all system audio.  I think that 
 would be way easier and efficient.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:18 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
 wrote:
 
 I want to link those programs together for recording perposes. for 
 podcasting as well as music recording. I would also like to moniter myself 
 while doing all of this. you know be able to hear everything that is going 
 on as well as myself if i speak into the mic. I want to be able to speak and 
 be able to play music in the background,record skype calls and . I hope 
 i wasn't too comfusion. Sorry it to me so long to respond but my email for 
 some unknown reason would not go out. I was able to recieve all my mail but 
 i just couldn't send any out. Today it decides to let me. lol Anyway thanks 
 in advance for any help. I do have a macbook,usb headset as well as a audio 
 enterface with studeo mics with those programs i listed before.  
 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Grundlingh
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
 programs together
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 What is it you want the 4 programs to do together? I could give you 
 step-by-step instructions, but to do that I'd have to know your particular 
 setup so I can say exactly what to do where.
 
 Regards,
 
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 Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
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 Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx
 
 On 29 Sep 2012, at 10:02 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
 wrote:
 
 my subject says what i'm trying to do could someone kindly walk me through 
 this p proccess? r
 
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windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?

2012-10-02 Thread Phil Halton
I'm going to install Windows7 on my late 2011 iMac soon and am wondering about 
this very important and useful key - the windows logo key. Obviously its not on 
the Apple USB full-size keyboard, but is there an alternative mapping after you 
install the bootcamp support drivers? How about the applications key on pc 
keyboards.

These two keys are invaluable on windows systems. Do I have to map them with 
something like SharpKeys, or is there already an alternative mapping?

thanks.

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Re: windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
You'll need to install sharp keys on windows. 
The windows key by default is the command key. At least on  my MacBook. 
Sharp keys will have to change a key such as the right command or option to the 
applications key. 
Hope that's helpful to you 


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'm going to install Windows7 on my late 2011 iMac soon and am wondering 
 about this very important and useful key - the windows logo key. Obviously 
 its not on the Apple USB full-size keyboard, but is there an alternative 
 mapping after you install the bootcamp support drivers? How about the 
 applications key on pc keyboards.
  
 These two keys are invaluable on windows systems. Do I have to map them with 
 something like SharpKeys, or is there already an alternative mapping?
  
 thanks.
  
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Re: windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Hall
The command key is the windows key, at least that's how the mac maps it on a 
windows-style usb keyboard connected to my mini. As to applications, there is 
not, but remember that the same functionality can be gotten to by pressing 
shift-f10. I know it isn't as convenient, but it is something to keep in mind.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 You'll need to install sharp keys on windows. 
 The windows key by default is the command key. At least on  my MacBook. 
 Sharp keys will have to change a key such as the right command or option to 
 the applications key. 
 Hope that's helpful to you 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I'm going to install Windows7 on my late 2011 iMac soon and am wondering 
 about this very important and useful key - the windows logo key. Obviously 
 its not on the Apple USB full-size keyboard, but is there an alternative 
 mapping after you install the bootcamp support drivers? How about the 
 applications key on pc keyboards.
  
 These two keys are invaluable on windows systems. Do I have to map them with 
 something like SharpKeys, or is there already an alternative mapping?
  
 thanks.
  
 
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Re: Basic Cocoa Programming

2012-10-02 Thread CJ Daniel
You're welcome  good luck,

CJ


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 Thanks CJ and Steve!
 
 I'll check these out. I have an international Bookshare membership and I 
 believe I've seen those O'Reily books before in some search results, so 
 hopefully I can get them. Thanks for the great suggestions!
 
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Re: Safari Books Online

2012-10-02 Thread CJ Daniel
Hi,

I read them as HTML in Safari on my Mac.  Remember, the key is to add them to 
your bookshelf via favorites.  Unless you do that, you can only see a teaser 
for each chapter @ a time.

Hope this helps,

CJ


On Sep 30, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 
 I tried them because my agency is offering the books as  enrichment and 
 career enhancement materials.
 
 I had no luck reading those books on an IOS device.  Either I got it really 
 wrong or they aren't accessible to any significant degree.
 
 Whatdid you say was your work-around?
 
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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 From: CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 20:10
 Subject: Re: Safari Books Online
 
 
 Paul,
 
 I think it is www.safaribooksonline.com.  Or, it might be 
 www.safaribooks.com.  Anyway, they've got a 10-day free trial.  After that, 
 the basic subscription is $19 a month.  That might seem a bit expensive, but 
 I love the access to so much technical information.
 
 There are several formats available.  I've had the most success with their 
 HTML.  You search for titles, add the one you want to your bookshelf, open it 
  move through the table of contents,  jump to the web content for each 
 chapter.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 CJ
 
 
 On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 
 I'm also interested in learning CoCo. What is the URL for Safari Books 
 Online? What formats does Safari use for the books? Thanks so much.
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 3:15 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Download Xcode from the app store.  It's a complete IDE for the Mac, which 
 is completely free.  And, based on preliminary usage, it works well with 
 VoiceOver.  
 
 There are free online tutorials available for learning to code, using coco, 
 C++, etc.  However, the best bet seems to be signing up for a subscription 
 to Safari Books Online.  They've got a massive collection of technical 
 books for Mac, Windows, Etc, Etc.  There are various books on the subject 
 of Xcode.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 CJ
 
 
 On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI all (and particularly Esther, as I have a feeling you may hold the 
 answers to these questions),
 
 I'd like to try and understand a little about basic programming on the 
 Mac. I'd like to see if I could develop some very simple little apps. I 
 would, of course, want them to be accessible with VoiceOver. In fact, this 
 would be my top priority.
 
 I've heard that programming in the Mac's native cocoa language is best in 
 terms of VoiceOver accessibility.
 
 So, my questions are:
 
 1. Does anyone know of a good resource for learning the basics of cocoa, 
 particularly any that provide a VO accessibility point of view?
 and
 2. Are there any apps that can be used to develop apps in cocoa which are 
 accessible with VoiceOver?
 
 Many thanks for any help.
 
 Nic
 
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Re: windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?

2012-10-02 Thread Phil Halton
Great, I assume that the option key maps to the alt key on pc keyboards?

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?


  You'll need to install sharp keys on windows. 
  The windows key by default is the command key. At least on  my MacBook. 
  Sharp keys will have to change a key such as the right command or option to 
the applications key. 
  Hope that's helpful to you 


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:


I'm going to install Windows7 on my late 2011 iMac soon and am wondering 
about this very important and useful key - the windows logo key. Obviously its 
not on the Apple USB full-size keyboard, but is there an alternative mapping 
after you install the bootcamp support drivers? How about the applications 
key on pc keyboards.

These two keys are invaluable on windows systems. Do I have to map them 
with something like SharpKeys, or is there already an alternative mapping?

thanks.


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Re: windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Hall
Again based on my mac's mapping of a windows keyboard, yes. Too bad there's no 
function key mapping for windows keyboards, as I'd love to have the function 
keys (f1-f12) work like they do on a dedicated mac keyboard.
On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great, I assume that the option key maps to the alt key on pc keyboards?
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Bruinenberg
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:04 PM
 Subject: Re: windows logo key alternative on Apple keyboard?
 
 You'll need to install sharp keys on windows. 
 The windows key by default is the command key. At least on  my MacBook. 
 Sharp keys will have to change a key such as the right command or option to 
 the applications key. 
 Hope that's helpful to you 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I'm going to install Windows7 on my late 2011 iMac soon and am wondering 
 about this very important and useful key - the windows logo key. Obviously 
 its not on the Apple USB full-size keyboard, but is there an alternative 
 mapping after you install the bootcamp support drivers? How about the 
 applications key on pc keyboards.
  
 These two keys are invaluable on windows systems. Do I have to map them with 
 something like SharpKeys, or is there already an alternative mapping?
  
 thanks.
  
 
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Re: downloading actual youtube videos?

2012-10-02 Thread ROD SKENE
I download YouTube videos with an app called MacTubes.  There are many 
unlabeled buttons but the help tags make the app accessible.
Rod
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 Hi.  I have youtube to mp3 converter, which works well.  I'm working on a 
 presentation i have to do though, and was hoping to include some clips in the 
 presentation.  Because I'm presenting to sighted people I'd like to know if 
 it's possible to download the whole video somehow with the mac.  
 
 thanks
 
 God Bless! Maria from australia
  Newbie mac user.
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 will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.   
 skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Gigi, you're still not understanding though what we're trying to explain. 
This explains why it didn't work.


The tripple click of the home key won't work unless several conditions have 
been met.


1.  The user gets the IPhone out of the box for the first time, powers it on 
for the very first time, and as soon as the first initial screen to set up 
the device comes up, they then press the home key 3 times quickly in a row.


2.  The user must go into settings, accessibility, tripple click home, and 
set it to toggle voiceover.


Here's the thing though that you need to understand.  The tripple clicking 
of the home key, to toggle it on/off as you all were testing, and trying to 
do, will, not, work, unless you either manually set it to do so through 
settings, or unless you mash the home key the 3 times quickly after very 
very first turnhing on the phone.  I don't mean, turn on the phone after it 
already has been before, then immediately press home 3 times.  That won't 
necessarily work.  You literally have to do it initially the very very very 
first time ever that the device is powered on or is reset to factory default 
settings with all data being wiped.


I guarantee, if you was to buy an I O S device from Apple, take it out of 
the box, put the sim card in, if there need to be one depending on the 
network it's being used with, then hold the sleep/power button on the top 
right of the device, power it on, then as soon for the first time as it ever 
gets power, and comes on, as soon as you see the screen that says welcome, 
and you then immediately press the home key, the round concaved key at the 
front bottom center just below the screen 3 times quickly as a tripple 
click, Voiceover would then start talking.  It would be a bit quiet, and you 
may have to turn it up, but ultimately, it should turn on.


The reason it wasn't working when you all did it, is because someone had 
already gotten through those welcome screens.  They'd already selected their 
language, time zone, etc etc and initially set up the device.  Once they've 
done this, if they didn't turn Voiceover on at that time with the tripple 
click, as they were setting it up, then it won't work unless you manually go 
in and turn that setting on.  If you do it during the initial setup screen, 
it will turn Voiceover on, plus will set it so that from that point forward, 
no matter what, hitting the home key 3 quick times will toggle Voiceover 
on/off.


I have an old IPod, which is pretty much identical to an IPhone only without 
the hardware gut of the phone, but same exact system/OS.  It's still I O S. 
If this doesn't make sense, I'll try making an audio recording with it after 
restoring it to factory default and show you what I mean.


Chris.

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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Bruinenberg
Hi Chris.
I know, it works. I tried my brothers iPhone 4s and it does not turn voiceover 
on.
Your correct with everything you said and it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks.
Chris Bruinenberg

cbrui...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Gigi, you're still not understanding though what we're trying to explain. 
 This explains why it didn't work.
 
 The tripple click of the home key won't work unless several conditions have 
 been met.
 
 1.  The user gets the IPhone out of the box for the first time, powers it on 
 for the very first time, and as soon as the first initial screen to set up 
 the device comes up, they then press the home key 3 times quickly in a row.
 
 2.  The user must go into settings, accessibility, tripple click home, and 
 set it to toggle voiceover.
 
 Here's the thing though that you need to understand.  The tripple clicking of 
 the home key, to toggle it on/off as you all were testing, and trying to do, 
 will, not, work, unless you either manually set it to do so through settings, 
 or unless you mash the home key the 3 times quickly after very very first 
 turnhing on the phone.  I don't mean, turn on the phone after it already has 
 been before, then immediately press home 3 times.  That won't necessarily 
 work.  You literally have to do it initially the very very very first time 
 ever that the device is powered on or is reset to factory default settings 
 with all data being wiped.
 
 I guarantee, if you was to buy an I O S device from Apple, take it out of the 
 box, put the sim card in, if there need to be one depending on the network 
 it's being used with, then hold the sleep/power button on the top right of 
 the device, power it on, then as soon for the first time as it ever gets 
 power, and comes on, as soon as you see the screen that says welcome, and you 
 then immediately press the home key, the round concaved key at the front 
 bottom center just below the screen 3 times quickly as a tripple click, 
 Voiceover would then start talking.  It would be a bit quiet, and you may 
 have to turn it up, but ultimately, it should turn on.
 
 The reason it wasn't working when you all did it, is because someone had 
 already gotten through those welcome screens.  They'd already selected their 
 language, time zone, etc etc and initially set up the device.  Once they've 
 done this, if they didn't turn Voiceover on at that time with the tripple 
 click, as they were setting it up, then it won't work unless you manually go 
 in and turn that setting on.  If you do it during the initial setup screen, 
 it will turn Voiceover on, plus will set it so that from that point forward, 
 no matter what, hitting the home key 3 quick times will toggle Voiceover 
 on/off.
 
 I have an old IPod, which is pretty much identical to an IPhone only without 
 the hardware gut of the phone, but same exact system/OS.  It's still I O S. 
 If this doesn't make sense, I'll try making an audio recording with it after 
 restoring it to factory default and show you what I mean.
 
 Chris.
 
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Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Agent086b
Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work now.
Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I am 
using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I know of.
Thanks again.
Max.

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Thanks re: problem with Facebook app and push notifications, please help!

2012-10-02 Thread Chris

Hello all.
Thank you all for trying to help with my problem regarding the Facebook 
app and push notifications.

I ended up restoring my iPhone 4 runnning iOS 6 from an iCloud backup.
It is all sorted, and my iPhone is more responsive now than before the 
restore.

Thanks once again.

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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Chris
I thought the end of a document was command-down arrow. At least it 
works in Text Edit and any edit text fields, but it is broken in some 
tables, such as the message table in Mail.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 23:56, Agent086b wrote:

Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work now.
Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I am 
using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I know of.
Thanks again.
Max.



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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Agent086b
Thanks, I thought Command down arrow was to insert a row below the one you are 
on.
Max.
On 03/10/2012, at 9:18 AM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought the end of a document was command-down arrow. At least it works in 
 Text Edit and any edit text fields, but it is broken in some tables, such as 
 the message table in Mail.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 02/10/2012 23:56, Agent086b wrote:
 Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work 
 now.
 Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I am 
 using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I know 
 of.
 Thanks again.
 Max.
 
 
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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Chris
Hello all, I can prove that Triple Click home to turn VoiceOver on still 
works in iOS 6 at least after a factory reset and at least on an iPhone 
4. This is how I restored it from an iCloud backup without sighted 
assistance.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 23:23, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Gigi, you're still not understanding though what we're trying to
explain. This explains why it didn't work.

The tripple click of the home key won't work unless several conditions
have been met.

1.  The user gets the IPhone out of the box for the first time, powers
it on for the very first time, and as soon as the first initial screen
to set up the device comes up, they then press the home key 3 times
quickly in a row.

2.  The user must go into settings, accessibility, tripple click home,
and set it to toggle voiceover.

Here's the thing though that you need to understand.  The tripple
clicking of the home key, to toggle it on/off as you all were testing,
and trying to do, will, not, work, unless you either manually set it to
do so through settings, or unless you mash the home key the 3 times
quickly after very very first turnhing on the phone.  I don't mean, turn
on the phone after it already has been before, then immediately press
home 3 times.  That won't necessarily work.  You literally have to do it
initially the very very very first time ever that the device is powered
on or is reset to factory default settings with all data being wiped.

I guarantee, if you was to buy an I O S device from Apple, take it out
of the box, put the sim card in, if there need to be one depending on
the network it's being used with, then hold the sleep/power button on
the top right of the device, power it on, then as soon for the first
time as it ever gets power, and comes on, as soon as you see the screen
that says welcome, and you then immediately press the home key, the
round concaved key at the front bottom center just below the screen 3
times quickly as a tripple click, Voiceover would then start talking.
It would be a bit quiet, and you may have to turn it up, but ultimately,
it should turn on.

The reason it wasn't working when you all did it, is because someone had
already gotten through those welcome screens.  They'd already selected
their language, time zone, etc etc and initially set up the device.
Once they've done this, if they didn't turn Voiceover on at that time
with the tripple click, as they were setting it up, then it won't work
unless you manually go in and turn that setting on.  If you do it during
the initial setup screen, it will turn Voiceover on, plus will set it so
that from that point forward, no matter what, hitting the home key 3
quick times will toggle Voiceover on/off.

I have an old IPod, which is pretty much identical to an IPhone only
without the hardware gut of the phone, but same exact system/OS.  It's
still I O S. If this doesn't make sense, I'll try making an audio
recording with it after restoring it to factory default and show you
what I mean.

Chris.



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Re: downloading actual youtube videos?

2012-10-02 Thread Chris

Can I use this app to convert Youtube to say MP3? Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 22:46, ROD SKENE wrote:

I download YouTube videos with an app called MacTubes.  There are many
unlabeled buttons but the help tags make the app accessible.
Rod
On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi.  I have youtube to mp3 converter, which works well.  I'm working
on a presentation i have to do though, and was hoping to include some
clips in the presentation.  Because I'm presenting to sighted people
I'd like to know if it's possible to download the whole video somehow
with the mac.

thanks

God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl










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Re: iPad

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Let me know if you all need that audio demonstration still.  I'm not about! 
to reset my IPhone to demonstration this, but I'd be happy to do it with the 
IPod, seeing I mainly only use that thing as a testing device for things 
like this anyway.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: iPad


Hi Chris.
I know, it works. I tried my brothers iPhone 4s and it does not turn 
voiceover on.

Your correct with everything you said and it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks.
Chris Bruinenberg

cbrui...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Gigi, you're still not understanding though what we're trying to explain. 
This explains why it didn't work.


The tripple click of the home key won't work unless several conditions 
have been met.


1.  The user gets the IPhone out of the box for the first time, powers it 
on for the very first time, and as soon as the first initial screen to set 
up the device comes up, they then press the home key 3 times quickly in a 
row.


2.  The user must go into settings, accessibility, tripple click home, and 
set it to toggle voiceover.


Here's the thing though that you need to understand.  The tripple clicking 
of the home key, to toggle it on/off as you all were testing, and trying 
to do, will, not, work, unless you either manually set it to do so through 
settings, or unless you mash the home key the 3 times quickly after very 
very first turnhing on the phone.  I don't mean, turn on the phone after 
it already has been before, then immediately press home 3 times.  That 
won't necessarily work.  You literally have to do it initially the very 
very very first time ever that the device is powered on or is reset to 
factory default settings with all data being wiped.


I guarantee, if you was to buy an I O S device from Apple, take it out of 
the box, put the sim card in, if there need to be one depending on the 
network it's being used with, then hold the sleep/power button on the top 
right of the device, power it on, then as soon for the first time as it 
ever gets power, and comes on, as soon as you see the screen that says 
welcome, and you then immediately press the home key, the round concaved 
key at the front bottom center just below the screen 3 times quickly as a 
tripple click, Voiceover would then start talking.  It would be a bit 
quiet, and you may have to turn it up, but ultimately, it should turn on.


The reason it wasn't working when you all did it, is because someone had 
already gotten through those welcome screens.  They'd already selected 
their language, time zone, etc etc and initially set up the device.  Once 
they've done this, if they didn't turn Voiceover on at that time with the 
tripple click, as they were setting it up, then it won't work unless you 
manually go in and turn that setting on.  If you do it during the initial 
setup screen, it will turn Voiceover on, plus will set it so that from 
that point forward, no matter what, hitting the home key 3 quick times 
will toggle Voiceover on/off.


I have an old IPod, which is pretty much identical to an IPhone only 
without the hardware gut of the phone, but same exact system/OS.  It's 
still I O S. If this doesn't make sense, I'll try making an audio 
recording with it after restoring it to factory default and show you what 
I mean.


Chris.

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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Donovan Osborn
There is a page down key it is Function+Down arrow
The Function key is probably the key left of the VO keys. 
You can hit VO+K tu turn on key description and here all of the Function arrow 
keys  to see what thay do.

Sincerely,

Donovan Osborn
donovan303...@gmail.com



On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work now.
 Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I am 
 using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I know 
 of.
 Thanks again.
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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Yes there is.

First of all:

fn+left arrow=Page up
fn+right arrow=Page Down
fn+Up arrow=Home
fn+down arrow=End.

In Text Edit at least, can't speak for Numbers, command+left arrow=beginning 
of line

command+right arrow=End of line
Command+Up arrow=top of file
command+down arrow=bottom of file.

Chris.

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To: Mac List macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: Go to end of document


Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work 
now.
Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I 
am using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I 
know of.

Thanks again.
Max.

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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Chris,

you're slightly confused.  In tables, you can't do command+down arrow.  What 
you gotta do in a table, is to hit fn+vo+shift+right arrow.


If you do left arrow instead of right arrow you'll jump to the top of the 
table.


I know that sounds cocka mainy but trust me, it works.

For those with a full sized keyboard, you can do the same thing with vo+home 
and vo+end.  Just be sure that before you hit either a those that you first 
are interacting with the table.  Otherwise you'll jump to the bottom of the 
screen, or the top, respectedly.


Chris.

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From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Go to end of document


I thought the end of a document was command-down arrow. At least it works 
in Text Edit and any edit text fields, but it is broken in some tables, 
such as the message table in Mail.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 23:56, Agent086b wrote:
Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work 
now.
Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I 
am using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I 
know of.

Thanks again.
Max.



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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That might be true in numbers, Max, but in Text Edit, those commands 
definitely! work.  They also should wortk in Pages, as well as pretty much 
any text field area.


Chris.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Go to end of document


Thanks, I thought Command down arrow was to insert a row below the one you 
are on.

Max.
On 03/10/2012, at 9:18 AM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

I thought the end of a document was command-down arrow. At least it works 
in Text Edit and any edit text fields, but it is broken in some tables, 
such as the message table in Mail.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 23:56, Agent086b wrote:
Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to 
work now.
Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? 
I am using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key 
that I know of.

Thanks again.
Max.



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Re: downloading actual youtube videos?

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You know Chris, I'm not totally sure if it does mp3's.  the last I looked it 
didn't, unfortunately.  That is the only thing I don't like about it.  That 
and there are a few unlabeled buttons, but you probably by now I'd assume 
know about the vo+slash to label things manually.  For what it is, it's a 
great little app, it just doesn't quite do what I need being I'm totally 
with you... I'd prefer it encode to mp3, not saving the video portion as 
well, as that takes up way too much room.  Now yeah, there are some vids I 
do wanna keep the video to, but we won't go there.  Hahahah.  Hint hint, 
ROFL!


Just kidding.  I'm not that way.  LOL!

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: downloading actual youtube videos?



Can I use this app to convert Youtube to say MP3? Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/10/2012 22:46, ROD SKENE wrote:

I download YouTube videos with an app called MacTubes.  There are many
unlabeled buttons but the help tags make the app accessible.
Rod
On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi.  I have youtube to mp3 converter, which works well.  I'm working
on a presentation i have to do though, and was hoping to include some
clips in the presentation.  Because I'm presenting to sighted people
I'd like to know if it's possible to download the whole video somehow
with the mac.

thanks

God Bless! Maria from australia
 Newbie mac user.
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
will get you fb as well as email  iMessage.
skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl










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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Donovan,

I was under the impression that up and down was home and end and left and 
right was page up and down.  Do I have it backwards?  I do it so second 
natured I don't really think/annalyze it.  LOL!


Chris.

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Subject: Re: Go to end of document



There is a page down key it is Function+Down arrow
The Function key is probably the key left of the VO keys.
You can hit VO+K tu turn on key description and here all of the Function 
arrow keys  to see what thay do.


Sincerely,

Donovan Osborn
donovan303...@gmail.com



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Thanks again.
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Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in programs together

2012-10-02 Thread keith weatherly
when's a good time to get up with you?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Timothy Clark Music 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:13 PM
  Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
programs together


  i personally hate that program. 
   use the sound driver called sound flower. it's smaller and works better. 
   use the program linen to monitor everything. 
   if anyone needs help with it add me on Skype so as i can walk you through it 
   my Skype id is djtimothy1

  God Bless. 
   Timothy. 
   Your friend in the music industry  
   http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
   7244011224 


  On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi,

I would just use audio hijack pro and record all system audio.  I think 
that would be way easier and efficient.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:18 PM, keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org wrote:


  I want to link those programs together for recording perposes. for 
podcasting as well as music recording. I would also like to moniter myself 
while doing all of this. you know be able to hear everything that is going on 
as well as myself if i speak into the mic. I want to be able to speak and be 
able to play music in the background,record skype calls and . I hope i 
wasn't too comfusion. Sorry it to me so long to respond but my email for some 
unknown reason would not go out. I was able to recieve all my mail but i just 
couldn't send any out. Today it decides to let me. lol Anyway thanks in advance 
for any help. I do have a macbook,usb headset as well as a audio enterface with 
studeo mics with those programs i listed before.  

  - Original Message -

  From: Gavin Grundlingh

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:21 PM

  Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
programs together



  Hi Keith,



  What is it you want the 4 programs to do together? I could give you 
step-by-step instructions, but to do that I'd have to know your particular 
setup so I can say exactly what to do where.



  Regards,



  Gavin Grundlingh

  Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191

  Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466

  Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792

  Email: g.batw...@gmail.com

  Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za

  Skype: Batworx

  Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx

  Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx



  On 29 Sep 2012, at 10:02 PM, keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org wrote:



my subject says what i'm trying to do could someone kindly walk me 
through this p proccess? r



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Re: braille display

2012-10-02 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I like the Brailliant BI40. It's not bulky.
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry wrote:

 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So does 
 Freedom Scientific.
 
 
 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
 has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
 using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
 is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
 too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
 too.
 
 
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Re: braille display

2012-10-02 Thread Kaare Dehard
me too, just have troubles using it things like using the keyboard to do 
command-l and pull a links list. If anyone could point me in the right 
direction I'd love ya. I have done the rtfm, but am still at a loss.

On 2012-10-02, at 10:10 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I like the Brailliant BI40. It's not bulky.
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
 
 Do you have any braille displays in mind?  Humanware has some.  So does 
 Freedom Scientific.
 
 
 Scott
 On 9/30/2012 12:42 PM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 This is a cross post because I hope for several responses.  I am
 purchasing a braille display for an elementary student.  This student
 has excellent skills with access technology.  The student will be
 using it with an IDevice and a Mac running OS 10 and Windows 7.  JAWS
 is the screen reader on Windows.  I want a portable display but not
 too small so I am looking at a 32 cell display or a 40 cell display.
 Please let me know your experiences.  The student uses a Braillenote
 too.
 
 
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newbie tip: vo-u in webpages

2012-10-02 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I'm back for another in my unintentional Newbie Tips series, where I explain 
something I just found that I wish I'd known months ago.

This time it's the web rotor, available in any html content item. When vo is 
focused in one of these, press vo-u to bring up the web rotor. Left and right 
arrows will move you through the different items available (you can set which 
ones you see in the vo utility under web). Each time you left/right arrow to a 
category, vo tells you how many of that item are on the page. You then use up 
and down arrows to move through the list of that item. For instance, you might 
do a google search, then bring up the web rotor and arrow to headings. Use up 
and down arrows in the headings list to move through your search results. 
Pressing space or vo-space on any item will jump you to it, but will not open 
it, even if it is a link. So, if you are arrowing along and find a link in the 
rotor list, press space on it and vo will jump to it. You must vo-space again 
to actually open the link.

This looks like a really neat tool and one I will certainly be using more now 
that I know about it. As always, if I have made any errors, please correct me 
so we don't have bad information getting spread around.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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system dialog but not there

2012-10-02 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Okay.

Want a weird problem?  Here goes.  While running Skype, and after a while of 
just sitting there, I will suddenly hear a Skype alert telling me a contact has 
gone on or off line; and then, I hear system dialog.  But, when I go to check 
using VO+F2, nothing but that one window open.  Any clues?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

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Re: Go to end of document

2012-10-02 Thread Agent086b
Thanks this works. I have read all the keyboard commands I can find, but I have 
not seen the below.
Is there a series of help files for different applications?
 How do you all find out about these?Thanks again.
Max.
On 03/10/2012, at 10:54 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Chris,
 
 you're slightly confused.  In tables, you can't do command+down arrow.  What 
 you gotta do in a table, is to hit fn+vo+shift+right arrow.
 
 If you do left arrow instead of right arrow you'll jump to the top of the 
 table.
 
 I know that sounds cocka mainy but trust me, it works.
 
 For those with a full sized keyboard, you can do the same thing with vo+home 
 and vo+end.  Just be sure that before you hit either a those that you first 
 are interacting with the table.  Otherwise you'll jump to the bottom of the 
 screen, or the top, respectedly.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris christopher...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Go to end of document
 
 
 I thought the end of a document was command-down arrow. At least it works in 
 Text Edit and any edit text fields, but it is broken in some tables, such as 
 the message table in Mail.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 02/10/2012 23:56, Agent086b wrote:
 Hello, thanks to the help I received earlier I am getting numbers to work 
 now.
 Is there a way to go to the end of a document in Numbers and Text Edit? I 
 am using the Apple wireless keyboard so don't have a page down key that I 
 know of.
 Thanks again.
 Max.
 
 
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Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in programs together

2012-10-02 Thread Timothy Clark Music
any time you see me online. 
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:28 PM, keith weatherly wrote:

 when's a good time to get up with you?
 - Original Message -
 From: Timothy Clark Music
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:13 PM
 Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
 programs together
 
 i personally hate that program. 
  use the sound driver called sound flower. it's smaller and works better. 
  use the program linen to monitor everything. 
  if anyone needs help with it add me on Skype so as i can walk youthrough 
 it 
  my Skype id is djtimothy1
 God Bless. 
  Timothy. 
  Your friend in the music industry  
  http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
  7244011224
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would just use audio hijack pro and record all system audio.  I think that 
 would be way easier and efficient.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:18 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
 wrote:
 
 I want to link those programs together for recording perposes. for 
 podcasting as well as music recording. I would also like to moniter myself 
 while doing all of this. you know be able to hear everything that is going 
 on as well as myself if i speak into the mic. I want to be able to speak 
 and be able to play music in thebackground,record skype calls and 
 . I hope i wasn't too comfusion. Sorry it to me so long to respond but 
 my email for some unknown reason would not go out. I was able to recieve 
 all my mail but i just couldn't send any out. Today it decides to let me. 
 lol Anyway thanks in advance for any help. I do have a macbook,usb headset 
 as well as a audio enterface with studeo mics with those programs i listed 
 before.  
 - Original Message -
 From: Gavin Grundlingh
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: connecting garageband sound flower logic and the line in 
 programs together
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 What is it you want the 4 programs to do together? I could give you 
 step-by-step instructions, but to do that I'd have to know your particular 
 setup so I can say exactly what to do where.
 
 Regards,
 
 Gavin Grundlingh
 Phone: +27 (0) 83 713-6191
 Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
 Fax: +27 (0) 86 617-5792
 Email: g.batw...@gmail.com
 Secondary Email: customtra...@live.co.za
 Skype: Batworx
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/batworx
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/batworx
 
 On 29 Sep 2012, at 10:02 PM, keith weatherly musicma...@walterharper.org 
 wrote:
 
 my subject says what i'm trying to do could someone kindly walk me through 
 this p proccess? r
 
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Editing Repeating Events in Calendar

2012-10-02 Thread Nicholas Parsons
HI all,

When editing a repeat event in Calendar a dialogue is displayed asking whether 
you wish to change all future events or only the current event. However, 
VoiceOver does not automatically focus on this dialogue. Moreover, it is 
impossible to keep editing or even stop editing the event once this dialogue is 
displayed.

the only way I have been able to get around this so far is by turning my 
trackpad commander off, then using it to move the mouse pointer while pressing 
VO F5 to hear what's under the mouse. When I hear the dialogue message under 
the mouse I use VO SHIFT F5 to move the VO curser to the mouse pointer which is 
on the dialogue, then I can use normal VO navigation to choose whether to 
change only the current or all future events.

This method works, but it can be time consuming and  a little hit and miss. 
Sometimes I find the dialogue straight away, other times I can be moving the 
mouse pointer around for a really long time before I hit the jackpot.

Does anyone have a better method of getting VO to this dialogue?

Many thanks in advance.

Nic

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typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

2012-10-02 Thread Jeff Bishop
Hello,

I have noticed that typing very quickly on my Mac using Alex that it is not
very responsive (not keeping up as I type). Now, I do have keyboard speech
set to echo characters. Switching to Samantha seems to be a bit better but I
was just curious what others impressions are as far as a good voice that is
very responsive (even if purchased)?

Jeff


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Re: typing at fast speeds with the Alex voice ...

2012-10-02 Thread Timothy Clark Music
never paid much attention to it as it seems to work fine here on my mac. what's 
your ram and such? 
God Bless. 
 Timothy. 
 Your friend in the music industry  
 http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com 
 7244011224

On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have noticed that typing very quickly on my Mac using Alex that it is not
 very responsive (not keeping up as I type). Now, I do have keyboard speech
 set to echo characters. Switching to Samantha seems to be a bit better but I
 was just curious what others impressions are as far as a good voice that is
 very responsive (even if purchased)?
 
 Jeff
 
 
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