Re: Barcode scanner?

[Gail the U. S. male]

Hi Gigi! a blast from your past!  Welcome to the list!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi again Mel
> 
> I forgot to mention that those labels believe it or not, can go on things in 
> the freezer. I have never been able to label successfully anything in the 
> freezer. Everything I ever tried selloffs. Oh yes, it even stick on Ziploc 
> freezer bags.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mel,
>> 
>> I also have Digit-Eyes, which is $19.99, and is used for both scanning
>> commercial bar codes and for creating personal audio labels with QR
>> codes that you print out. If you only want to try out the custom
>> labelling and reading feature on a limited basis, there is a free lite
>> version that can be upgraded to to add the main commercial bar code
>> scanning through in-app purchases, but you probably want the full
>> version. Here are the URLs at the app store:
>> • Digit-Eyes Audio Scanner and Labeler  ($19.99)
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-audio-scanner-labeler/id376424490?mt=8
>> • Digit-Eyes Lite QR Bar Code Reader and Labeler (free)
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-lite-audio-labeler/id379865944?mt=8
>> 
>> Check their web site for tips and usage instructions:
>> • Digit-Eyes web site
>> http://www.digit-eyes.com
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 3:17 am, Mary Scott  wrote:
>>> Thank you.  I will get it today.  Mel
>>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there the scanner I like these days is a digit eyes. It also has 
 labeling features that you can use, and it is set up for blind users. Of 
 course, that means it works real good with voiceover.
 Gigi
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Chris. Yes, torrents are illegal, but as they say in wrestling, it's only 
illegal if you get caught, and the law is too concerned about other things to 
deal with people downloading software or movies. I shouldn't say anymore but 
you get the picture.

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Re: Speaking of New Voices...

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Chris. Unfortunately, at this time, Apple has restricted third-party 
developers from making voices for IOS. You can get apps that have the voices in 
them, but as of right now, they're restricted to that app. I know, it's stupid.

Shawn
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Matt Dierckens]

Cereproc is the worst $50 I ever spent on a voice. No inflection, sound bord 
out of their mind, would not reccomend.
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On 2012-11-04, at 6:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
> moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
> subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts 
> on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat 
> that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android 
> called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more 
> alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc 
> voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to their 
> website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat both 
> Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, 
> ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of them. The 
> price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how much that converts 
> to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and want to get them. So 
> thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To see how well these voices 
> sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices
> 
> Shawn
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Chris Gilland]

Hank's correct.  

I tried the Dallas voice, and to say it fudged up my Voiceover is an 
understatement!

Chris.

On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:54 PM, hank smith  wrote:

> it was cepstral u are thinking of and last I checked nothing has changed.
> On 11/4/2012 8:33 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> If memory serves me right, and this might have changed, but I recall 
>> someone saying that these voices do not work well with VoiceOver.  If I am 
>> thinking of the same developer, there were promises that they were working 
>> on it, but I don't recall if this was these voices.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
>> 
>>> Alex,
>>> 
>>> I had no problem just clicking the image link with the usual VO-space.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> On nov 4, 2012, at 8:15 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 I listened to a few. Personally I find them a bit choppy and not as smooth 
 as the voices you can get with the mac by default. Still, synthesized 
 speech is one of the most subjective things in the blindness community, so 
 to each their own, I say.
 
 On a practical note, I had trouble getting the sound files to play. I had 
 to interact with the link for the sample, then vo-right to the actual link 
 (not the image), route the mouse with vo-cmd-f5, and click with 
 vo-shift-space. Sometimes I could just right click and select download 
 file, but that didn't work much of the time.
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  
 wrote:
 
> Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
> moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
> subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum 
> posts on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his 
> Android Chat that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for 
> the Android called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were 
> more alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same 
> Cereproc voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to 
> their website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they 
> beat both Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, 
> if I can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few 
> of them. The price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how 
> much that converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and 
> want to get them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To 
> see how well these voices sound, go to 
> http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Speaking of New Voices...

[Chris Gilland]

I got to thinking.  I wonder if there are any additional voices that I can 
purchase, or that are freeware which I could download and install on my 
IPhone/IPad.  With the way that Voiceover works on IOS, I really doubt it, but 
you never know.  I know there are obviously lots of 3rd party voices you can 
get for the Android platform, so figured maybe there may be something similar 
for IOS.  Don't get me wrong, I like the default voice… what is it… Jill? Or is 
it Symantha.  Anyway, it would just be nice to have some other options.  Yes, I 
know there are all the Nuance voices, but I honestly am not too crazy about 
those.

Anyway, thanks for the help.

Chris.

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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[hank smith]

it was cepstral u are thinking of and last I checked nothing has changed.
On 11/4/2012 8:33 PM, John Panarese wrote:
If memory serves me right, and this might have changed, but I 
recall someone saying that these voices do not work well with 
VoiceOver.  If I am thinking of the same developer, there were 
promises that they were working on it, but I don't recall if this was 
these voices.



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On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Harry Hogue > wrote:



Alex,

I had no problem just clicking the image link with the usual VO-space.

Thanks,

Harry

On nov 4, 2012, at 8:15 p.m., Alex Hall > wrote:


I listened to a few. Personally I find them a bit choppy and not as 
smooth as the voices you can get with the mac by default. Still, 
synthesized speech is one of the most subjective things in the 
blindness community, so to each their own, I say.


On a practical note, I had trouble getting the sound files to play. 
I had to interact with the link for the sample, then vo-right to the 
actual link (not the image), route the mouse with vo-cmd-f5, and 
click with vo-shift-space. Sometimes I could just right click and 
select download file, but that didn't work much of the time.
On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk 
mailto:bigbigshawn@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved 
every moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's 
not what my subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on 
almost 100 forum posts on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum 
posts about his Android Chat that he does weekly and he mentioned 
about these voices for the Android called Cereproc. Well, for those 
of you that wish there were more alternatives besides Nuance, 
Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc voices for the Android 
are also available for the Mac. I went to their website to see how 
good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat both Nuance 
and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, 
ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of 
them. The price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know 
how much that converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really like 
them and want to get them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to 
these voices. To see how well these voices sound, go to 
http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices


Shawn
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[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I just rebooted, and now the voice is working perfectly with Voiceover. 
Sorry about that.


Chris.


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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Unfortunately, I think that John is correct.

I tried installing the Adam voice, and that went fine.  When I tried 
switching over to the voice however, thank God my voiceover didn't totally 
hang and go to no speech at all, but it did seem to revert back to Alex, and 
when I looked with my vo+command+left and right arrow to kove to the voice 
option, it said Null.


I just rebooted.  We'll see if that helps, but at this rate, I'm not very 
hopeful, and one of my friends even told me that when he tried getting a 
refund once a while back, granted he bought a Windows version, not a mac 
version, but still, he said they were so unwilling to refund him, that he 
finally had to open a claim with Paypal, and paypal took action, and 
refunded him, and flagged Cereproc for negative transaction activity.


We'll see what happens, but at this point, I'm completely unimpressed.

Chris.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Arrigo" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac


Yes, those voices are really good. Admitedly, I think the nuance voices are 
a bit better, but speech is a very subjective thing.

On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum 
posts on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android 
Chat that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the 
Android called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more 
alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc 
voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to their 
website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat 
both Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I 
can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of 
them. The price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how much 
that converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and want to 
get them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To see how 
well these voices sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices


Shawn
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Re: Good News about Safari and Bookshare XML Files

[Harry Hogue]

Hi Alex,

Yes, you're exactly right.  having been on the Windows side of my mac, I was 
thinking in half Windows terms there for a second.  Sorry about that!  I have 
yet to try the latest Safari update, actually, but I will run a check for 
software updates now.  Thanks for letting me know.

Harry

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> First, I think you meant to say refresh with cmd-r, not cmd-f5.  
> Second, I saw a Safari update when I got on the mac today (I had been on 
> windows for a few days). Does this most recent Safari update not fix things? 
> I doubt it will, but you never know.
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, guys,
>> 
>> I know I, and others, and been having issues reading .xml files from 
>> Bookshare in Safari.  Sometimes, these files will load as blank within 
>> Safari.  I decided to load the .xml file in my Internet Explorer on the 
>> Windows side of my computer, and it brought up an error that said it could 
>> not load properly.  I said to try and find a solution and report the problem 
>> to Microsoft, and that fixed the problem.
>> 
>> So I went back to the Mac side and Safari, still totally lost.  The file 
>> loaded as blank.  I went to the develop menu and emptied the cash, just in 
>> case that could make a difference.  It didn't.  Then I say the option to 
>> "Disable local file restriction" which was not checked.  I checked this box, 
>> and refreshed the page with cmd-F5, and the book loaded without problems.  I 
>> am really happy about this, since I can now read my book in Spanish that I 
>> have been trying to for some time.
>> 
>> I hope this is helpful to some others who may have experienced something 
>> similar.  Please note that the "Develop" menu is not enabled by default, and 
>> do not think, but it escapes me at the moment how to enable it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Harry
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[Tim Kilburn]

John,

I think that Leopard is the best you'll do without some trickery.  SL claims to 
require an Intel processor with minimum 1 GB RAM.  I've circumvented these 
sorts of restrictions occasionally using image deployment methods but the 
machine has usually ran so slow that it was painful to use, especially with VO.

Later...

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On 2012-11-04, at 9:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

> I got a new power adaptor and a new battery and this puppy is running 
> like a champ with Leopard.  I'm wondering if it is upgradable to Snowy.  I'll 
> have to check that tomorrow on the Apple Support pages.  How far VoiceOver 
> has come since 10.5 is utterly amazing.  It puts things into perspective for 
> sure.  For those of you who complain about what's wrong with Mountain Lion, 
> try working with Leopard and see how much Apple accessibility has done with 
> the product since then.
> 
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Glad it worked.  Too bad I jumped in so quick.  I noticed after the fact 
>> that Esther had already chimed in with the right options.  Oh well, that's 
>> what I get for not paying attention.
>> 
>> Yes it is really cool how some of these older Macs just keep slugging along. 
>>  I've got a load of white iMacs at work that are still running just great.  
>> Had to up the RAM to 2GB so that they could handle Adobe CS6 and run a 
>> little quicker but they do the job just fine.
>> 
>> Have a good one.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-11-04, at 8:59 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> Yes, that does the trick.  It's odd how these things work.  I got my 
>>> first Mac I ever bought for myself back from the friend I gave it to when I 
>>> bought a Mac Book in 2007.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
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>>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 John,
 
 I think it's the F6 key to toggle the NumPad on those units.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-11-04, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
> Hi guys,
>For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
> remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
> friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems 
> to be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall 
> how to switch it back to normal input mode?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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Re: iMac Temperature

[Cheryl Homiak]

Also to clarify: there is a larger software program called hardware monitor 
that does a number of things. Temperature monitor itself can be downloaded 
separately and is free. I thought I should point it out because when you go to 
the website you almost immediately hear something about "full software, not an 
app; definitely not available on the app store". Then it goes on to explain if 
you keep looking.
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On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> 
> Mostly accessible may have been the wrong phrase.  I've just noticed that in 
> some cases the temperature is not read out, it just says "blank" or nothing 
> at all.  You can navigate up and down sometimes or sometimes VO-c will read 
> the Column Header and then read the temperature out loud.  So, I guess it's 
> more a consistency issue than an accessibility issue.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-11-04, at 9:09 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,
>> 
>> If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
>> since Tiger, then the URL is:
>> 
>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html
>> 
>> It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
>> there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
>> hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
>> what is the "mostly accessible" qualification under ML?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 5:52 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works 
>>> in ML.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
>>> 
 I believe there is a program called fan control.
 it does a similar thing.
>>> 
 Chris Bruinenberg
 cbrui...@gmail.com
>>> 
 On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
> Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
> at?
> On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
>>> 
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Re: iMac Temperature

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Esther,

Mostly accessible may have been the wrong phrase.  I've just noticed that in 
some cases the temperature is not read out, it just says "blank" or nothing at 
all.  You can navigate up and down sometimes or sometimes VO-c will read the 
Column Header and then read the temperature out loud.  So, I guess it's more a 
consistency issue than an accessibility issue.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-04, at 9:09 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,
> 
> If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
> since Tiger, then the URL is:
> 
> http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html
> 
> It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
> there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
> hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
> what is the "mostly accessible" qualification under ML?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 4, 5:52 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in 
>> ML.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe there is a program called fan control.
>>> it does a similar thing.
>> 
>>> Chris Bruinenberg
>>> cbrui...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
 Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
 at?
 On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
 Max.
>> 
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Mike Arrigo]

Yes, those voices are really good. Admitedly, I think the nuance voices are a 
bit better, but speech is a very subjective thing.
On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

> Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
> moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
> subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts 
> on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat 
> that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android 
> called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more 
> alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc 
> voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to their 
> website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat both 
> Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, 
> ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of them. The 
> price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how much that converts 
> to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and want to get them. So 
> thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To see how well these voices 
> sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[John Panarese]

I got a new power adaptor and a new battery and this puppy is running like 
a champ with Leopard.  I'm wondering if it is upgradable to Snowy.  I'll have 
to check that tomorrow on the Apple Support pages.  How far VoiceOver has come 
since 10.5 is utterly amazing.  It puts things into perspective for sure.  For 
those of you who complain about what's wrong with Mountain Lion, try working 
with Leopard and see how much Apple accessibility has done with the product 
since then.



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On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Glad it worked.  Too bad I jumped in so quick.  I noticed after the fact that 
> Esther had already chimed in with the right options.  Oh well, that's what I 
> get for not paying attention.
> 
> Yes it is really cool how some of these older Macs just keep slugging along.  
> I've got a load of white iMacs at work that are still running just great.  
> Had to up the RAM to 2GB so that they could handle Adobe CS6 and run a little 
> quicker but they do the job just fine.
> 
> Have a good one.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-11-04, at 8:59 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> Yes, that does the trick.  It's odd how these things work.  I got my 
>> first Mac I ever bought for myself back from the friend I gave it to when I 
>> bought a Mac Book in 2007.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
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>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> I think it's the F6 key to toggle the NumPad on those units.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-11-04, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys,
For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
 remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
 friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems 
 to be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall 
 how to switch it back to normal input mode?
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: iMac Temperature

[Esther]

Hi Max, Chris, Tim, and Others,

If it's the same Temperature Monitor application we've been using
since Tiger, then the URL is:

http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html

It was usually advisable to read the notes at the web site, because
there were sometimes performance issues for different specific
hardware configurations. Tim, I haven't tried running this recently.
what is the "mostly accessible" qualification under ML?

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 4, 5:52 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in 
> ML.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
>
> > I believe there is a program called fan control.
> > it does a similar thing.
>
> > Chris Bruinenberg
> > cbrui...@gmail.com
>
> > On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>
> >> Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running 
> >> at?
> >> On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >> Max.
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[Tim Kilburn]

Glad it worked.  Too bad I jumped in so quick.  I noticed after the fact that 
Esther had already chimed in with the right options.  Oh well, that's what I 
get for not paying attention.

Yes it is really cool how some of these older Macs just keep slugging along.  
I've got a load of white iMacs at work that are still running just great.  Had 
to up the RAM to 2GB so that they could handle Adobe CS6 and run a little 
quicker but they do the job just fine.

Have a good one.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-04, at 8:59 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> Yes, that does the trick.  It's odd how these things work.  I got my 
> first Mac I ever bought for myself back from the friend I gave it to when I 
> bought a Mac Book in 2007.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
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> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> I think it's the F6 key to toggle the NumPad on those units.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-11-04, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys,
>>>For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
>>> remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
>>> friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems to 
>>> be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall how 
>>> to switch it back to normal input mode?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[John Panarese]

Hi Tim,
Yes, that does the trick.  It's odd how these things work.  I got my first 
Mac I ever bought for myself back from the friend I gave it to when I bought a 
Mac Book in 2007.


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On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> John,
> 
> I think it's the F6 key to toggle the NumPad on those units.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-11-04, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>>For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
>> remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
>> friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems to 
>> be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall how to 
>> switch it back to normal input mode?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[Tim Kilburn]

John,

I think it's the F6 key to toggle the NumPad on those units.

Thanks.

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-04, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
> remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
> friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems to 
> be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall how to 
> switch it back to normal input mode?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
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Re: Good News about Safari and Bookshare XML Files

[Alex Hall]

First, I think you meant to say refresh with cmd-r, not cmd-f5.  Second, 
I saw a Safari update when I got on the mac today (I had been on windows for a 
few days). Does this most recent Safari update not fix things? I doubt it will, 
but you never know.
On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hello, guys,
> 
> I know I, and others, and been having issues reading .xml files from 
> Bookshare in Safari.  Sometimes, these files will load as blank within 
> Safari.  I decided to load the .xml file in my Internet Explorer on the 
> Windows side of my computer, and it brought up an error that said it could 
> not load properly.  I said to try and find a solution and report the problem 
> to Microsoft, and that fixed the problem.
> 
> So I went back to the Mac side and Safari, still totally lost.  The file 
> loaded as blank.  I went to the develop menu and emptied the cash, just in 
> case that could make a difference.  It didn't.  Then I say the option to 
> "Disable local file restriction" which was not checked.  I checked this box, 
> and refreshed the page with cmd-F5, and the book loaded without problems.  I 
> am really happy about this, since I can now read my book in Spanish that I 
> have been trying to for some time.
> 
> I hope this is helpful to some others who may have experienced something 
> similar.  Please note that the "Develop" menu is not enabled by default, and 
> do not think, but it escapes me at the moment how to enable it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
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Re: iMac Temperature

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There is also one called Temperature Monitor, mostly accessible and works in ML.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-11-04, at 4:57 PM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> I believe there is a program called fan control.
> it does a similar thing.
> 
> Chris Bruinenberg
> cbrui...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running at?
>> On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Max.
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'll admit, their web site was a mess, not to mention a major! pain if ever 
their be one!  Then, once I bought the voice, they never e-mailed me the 
password to my user account.  They said I was logged in, yet I got an 
unauthorized page when I tried to go to the link they provided to direct me to 
my downloads.  When I clicked the link to reset my password, nothing at all 
happened.  Finally, I wound up having to manually go to the link they gave me 
in the initial e-mail to reset the password.  Once I reset it to something I 
knew, I got no confirmation on the page that it was successful.  I just had to 
trust it worked.  Finally, once I started downloading the zip file of my 
product, after much headache, I'm only getting maybe 50K a second, which for a 
100 something odd meg file, is utterly crap!  I should be pulling at least! 3 
to 400K, if not more.

God help me!, if the interface to input my license isn't accessible.

We'll find out.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac


  I listened to a few. Personally I find them a bit choppy and not as smooth as 
the voices you can get with the mac by default. Still, synthesized speech is 
one of the most subjective things in the blindness community, so to each their 
own, I say.


  On a practical note, I had trouble getting the sound files to play. I had to 
interact with the link for the sample, then vo-right to the actual link (not 
the image), route the mouse with vo-cmd-f5, and click with vo-shift-space. 
Sometimes I could just right click and select download file, but that didn't 
work much of the time.

  On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:


Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts on 
SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat that he 
does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android called 
Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more alternatives besides 
Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc voices for the Android are 
also available for the Mac. I went to their website to see how good these 
voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat both Nuance and Acapela. They are 
really good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, 
I'm thinking of buying a few of them. The price is pretty affordable, about $42 
US. I don't know how much that converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really 
like them and want to get them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these 
voices. To see how well these voices sound, go to 
http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices



Shawn
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Re: using the braille pen 12

[Gerard Doody]

Hi Chenelle, I just bought a BraillePen12 and I nder if you will be getting any 
training from an agency, or some such.  I have files that have the commands 
and, if you wish, I can forward them to you.  I would also be willing to talk 
to you on the phone if that helps. 
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On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Chenelle Hancock  wrote:


hi all
i wanted to know who has purchased the braille pen 12 and if so  do they have 
instrucnt  on how touse it with the  i phone 4.  so. thanks a lot for  your 
help i  reY  really do appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Awesome.  Am downloading the Adam U S english voice, that I just bought.

As you stated in your mail, you'd get a torrent.  Wouldn't that be illegal?

Chris.


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  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 8:58 PM
  Subject: Discovered New Voices For Mac


  Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts on 
SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat that he 
does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android called 
Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more alternatives besides 
Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc voices for the Android are 
also available for the Mac. I went to their website to see how good these 
voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat both Nuance and Acapela. They are 
really good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, 
I'm thinking of buying a few of them. The price is pretty affordable, about $42 
US. I don't know how much that converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really 
like them and want to get them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these 
voices. To see how well these voices sound, go to 
http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices



  Shawn
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[John Panarese]

If memory serves me right, and this might have changed, but I recall 
someone saying that these voices do not work well with VoiceOver.  If I am 
thinking of the same developer, there were promises that they were working on 
it, but I don't recall if this was these voices.


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On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Alex,
> 
> I had no problem just clicking the image link with the usual VO-space.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> 
> On nov 4, 2012, at 8:15 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I listened to a few. Personally I find them a bit choppy and not as smooth 
>> as the voices you can get with the mac by default. Still, synthesized speech 
>> is one of the most subjective things in the blindness community, so to each 
>> their own, I say.
>> 
>> On a practical note, I had trouble getting the sound files to play. I had to 
>> interact with the link for the sample, then vo-right to the actual link (not 
>> the image), route the mouse with vo-cmd-f5, and click with vo-shift-space. 
>> Sometimes I could just right click and select download file, but that didn't 
>> work much of the time.
>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
>>> moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
>>> subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum 
>>> posts on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android 
>>> Chat that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the 
>>> Android called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more 
>>> alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc 
>>> voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to their 
>>> website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat 
>>> both Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I 
>>> can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of them. 
>>> The price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how much that 
>>> converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and want to get 
>>> them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To see how well 
>>> these voices sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my white Mac Book
>>> 
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Good News about Safari and Bookshare XML Files

[Harry Hogue]

Hello, guys,

I know I, and others, and been having issues reading .xml files from Bookshare 
in Safari.  Sometimes, these files will load as blank within Safari.  I decided 
to load the .xml file in my Internet Explorer on the Windows side of my 
computer, and it brought up an error that said it could not load properly.  I 
said to try and find a solution and report the problem to Microsoft, and that 
fixed the problem.

So I went back to the Mac side and Safari, still totally lost.  The file loaded 
as blank.  I went to the develop menu and emptied the cash, just in case that 
could make a difference.  It didn't.  Then I say the option to "Disable local 
file restriction" which was not checked.  I checked this box, and refreshed the 
page with cmd-F5, and the book loaded without problems.  I am really happy 
about this, since I can now read my book in Spanish that I have been trying to 
for some time.

I hope this is helpful to some others who may have experienced something 
similar.  Please note that the "Develop" menu is not enabled by default, and do 
not think, but it escapes me at the moment how to enable it.

Thanks,

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Re: any accessible Facebook programs for OS X Lion?

[Alex Hall]

I opened the app again to check this, and it asked me to rate it. I selected 
the "no thanks" button, and nothing else happened. Now the app will not launch 
at all, not even to bug me about rating it. My app chooser shows no sign of it, 
not even in the system dialogs menu. I'm stumped, and getting very annoyed with 
this app. Yes, it's the free one, but I don't see how that could matter.
On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> there are 2 html content windows. also, the app may have opened a system 
> window to ask for login information.
> 
> once I found this window, I filled in the required information and it logged 
> me in. 
> 
> -eric
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Okay, what am I doing wrong? When I try this app, I see an html
>> content with next to nothing in it, just some frame which itself holds
>> nothing. I see no Facebook-related content whatsoever. I'm not
>> prompted to log in, and I see no menus, so it must be logged in
>> already... I'm running the latest version.
>> 
>> On 11/4/12, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> well, I do have regular menu tab. I could unlock extra features (making it
>>> pro). so far, the interface seems pretty simple.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> 
 Try MenuTab Pro which is a paid Mac App. They do a free ad sponsored
 version too.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
 On 01/11/2012 11:37, Eric Oyen wrote:
> I guess the subject says it all. I know there is an app for the iPhone
> (and I use it) but I cannot seem to find the same app for the mac. any
> ideas? also, is there any accessible alternatives for the Facebook on the
> mac OS X lion platform?
> 
> -eric
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Harry Hogue]

Alex,

I had no problem just clicking the image link with the usual VO-space.

Thanks,

Harry

On nov 4, 2012, at 8:15 p.m., Alex Hall  wrote:

> I listened to a few. Personally I find them a bit choppy and not as smooth as 
> the voices you can get with the mac by default. Still, synthesized speech is 
> one of the most subjective things in the blindness community, so to each 
> their own, I say.
> 
> On a practical note, I had trouble getting the sound files to play. I had to 
> interact with the link for the sample, then vo-right to the actual link (not 
> the image), route the mouse with vo-cmd-f5, and click with vo-shift-space. 
> Sometimes I could just right click and select download file, but that didn't 
> work much of the time.
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
>> moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
>> subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts 
>> on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat 
>> that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android 
>> called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more 
>> alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc 
>> voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to their 
>> website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat 
>> both Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I 
>> can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of them. 
>> The price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how much that 
>> converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and want to get 
>> them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To see how well 
>> these voices sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Re: Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Alex Hall]

I listened to a few. Personally I find them a bit choppy and not as smooth as 
the voices you can get with the mac by default. Still, synthesized speech is 
one of the most subjective things in the blindness community, so to each their 
own, I say.

On a practical note, I had trouble getting the sound files to play. I had to 
interact with the link for the sample, then vo-right to the actual link (not 
the image), route the mouse with vo-cmd-f5, and click with vo-shift-space. 
Sometimes I could just right click and select download file, but that didn't 
work much of the time.
On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every 
> moment of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my 
> subject is about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts 
> on SamNet, I read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat 
> that he does weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android 
> called Cereproc. Well, for those of you that wish there were more 
> alternatives besides Nuance, Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc 
> voices for the Android are also available for the Mac. I went to their 
> website to see how good these voices sound and, in my opinion, they beat both 
> Nuance and Acapela. They are really good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, 
> ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm thinking of buying a few of them. The 
> price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. I don't know how much that converts 
> to in Canadian dollars, but I really like them and want to get them. So 
> thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. To see how well these voices 
> sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Re: using the braille pen 12

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Hi, I might be able to help.  What would you like to know?

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On 2012-11-04, at 8:31 PM, Chenelle Hancock  wrote:

> 
> hi all
> i wanted to know who has purchased the braille pen 12 and if so  do they have 
> instrucnt  on how touse it with the  i phone 4.  so. thanks a lot for  your 
> help i  reY  really do appreciate it. Sent from my iPhone
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Discovered New Voices For Mac

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi guys. Well, it's been two years now with my Mac and I've loved every moment 
of it, including the frustrating ones. Lol. But that's not what my subject is 
about. Last night, as I was catching up on almost 100 forum posts on SamNet, I 
read one of Mike Arrigo's forum posts about his Android Chat that he does 
weekly and he mentioned about these voices for the Android called Cereproc. 
Well, for those of you that wish there were more alternatives besides Nuance, 
Cepstral, and Acapela, these same Cereproc voices for the Android are also 
available for the Mac. I went to their website to see how good these voices 
sound and, in my opinion, they beat both Nuance and Acapela. They are really 
good! As a matter of fact, if I can't, ahem, find a torrent for them, I'm 
thinking of buying a few of them. The price is pretty affordable, about $42 US. 
I don't know how much that converts to in Canadian dollars, but I really like 
them and want to get them. So thanks Mike for introducing me to these voices. 
To see how well these voices sound, go to http://www.cereproc.com/en/osxvoices

Shawn
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Organizing Classical Music in iTunes

[Traci]

A very informative article if you are a classical music fan and want to 
organize your collection better.  I felt this post was fitting for both lists.
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How I Organize Classical Music in iTunes
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 at 4:36 AM

Classical music in iTunes is a disaster. The track and album information that 
is downloaded with your album is an inconsistent nightmare, and leaves one with 
few options for creating a variety of rich playlists—which is almost 
exclusively how I listen to my music.
To remedy this, I have a system which overhauls the existing track and album 
data, and appends those data with rich metadata so that I can create a variety 
of smart playlists. Here is my recipe.
Tidy Track Data and Add Metadata

Fix Album Composer

Unlike many people, I keep the composer of the work in the Composer field (many 
people move it to the Artist field). I make sure I choose one consistent way to 
spell the composer's name (Dvořák or Dvorak? you decide and stick with 
one—personally I prefer the "řá" spelling), then I change it to a [last name], 
[first name] format. And, I don't include the dates of birth and death, we have 
Wikipedia for that. Once you have a composer in your library, subsequent 
entries will autocomplete.
Add composer to sort fields

I put the composer, in the same [last name], [first name] format, in the Sort 
Artist and Sort Album Artist fields. This bunches the works of one composer 
together, but will not break up multi-composer albums. If you identify your 
albums by the artist more than the composer, don't do this step.
Fix Album Artist

There are two fields here: Artist and Album Artist which, as you might imagine, 
represent each track and the entire album, respectively. For the Artist field, 
I tend to put the conductor and orchestra first, when applicable, and follow it 
with any highlighted artists along with their reason for being highlighted. 
Each artist is separated by a semi-colon. So, for example:
Leonard Bernstein, New York Philharmonic
Fritz Reiner, Chicago Symphony; Sidney Harth, Violin
Alfred Brendel, Piano
Stanislaw Wislocki, Warsaw National Philharmonic Orchestra; Sviatoslav Richter, 
Piano
For the Album Artist, I typically put the most important artist first, without 
any instruments or voices. If the album is known for the pianist, then he or 
she will go first. If the album is best known for the conductor, then he will 
appear first (why are there no female conductors?). I still join the conductor 
and his orchestra with a comma, and separate other artists with a semi-colon. 
For example:
Leonard Bernstein, New York Philharmonic
Fritz Reiner, Chicago Symphony; Sidney Harth (the piece is better known for 
Reiner's work)
Alfred Brendel
Sviatoslav Richter; Stanislaw Wislocki, Warsaw National Philharmonic Orchestra
Now, I know what you're asking, what about those albums that have different 
artists for different pieces on the album. Well, I personally hate when albums 
have an Album Artist of Various Artists, but sometimes it is unavoidable, 
particularly on compilation albums. However, if there are only two different 
artists, I will join them together in the Album Artist field, thereby rescuing 
it from the various artists section. The alternative is to break up 
multi-artist albums so that they appear as different albums, but taken to its 
extreme—compilation albums—this system breaks down. I vote to keep the original 
album together.
Add Metadata

The Comments field can take a format-free string of characters, so I populate 
this field with an assortment of metadata that describe the piece. These 
include, in this order:
The Musical Period — Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, 20th Century, 
or Modern.
The Musical Form — Symphony, Sonata, Concerto, Prelude, Rhapsody, Tone Poem, 
Fugue, etc. If you don't know the form, then put Form?
The Ensemble — Solo, Duet, Trio, Quartet, Quintet, up to Nonet, and Orchestra
Highlighted Instruments — Violin for a violin concerto, Strings for a string 
quartet, or Winds for Mozart's Serenade #10 for Wind Instruments. You get the 
idea. Instruments can either be listed as a broad category, like Keyboard, 
Strings, Winds, Voice, or they can be listed individually, like Harpsichord, 
Cello, Oboe, etc.
The Album Date — if you feel the need, the original date that appears on the 
album. Often the release date, which I include as Rel2007, or the recording 
date, which I write as Rec1965. I don't pursue these dates, I only copy the 
date from the Year field here, just to have a record of when the album was 
released.
Date Uncertainty — if you don't know the date of the composition, which, as 
you'll see next, I put in the Year field, I place a Date? at the end of the 
Comments field.
Fix the Year

I like putting the year the work was composed in the Year field. This is a nice 
way to put pieces in context w

using the braille pen 12

[Chenelle Hancock]

hi all
i wanted to know who has purchased the braille pen 12 and if so  do they have 
instrucnt  on how touse it with the  i phone 4.  so. thanks a lot for  your 
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[John Panarese]

Hi Esther,
Once again, you did it.  I knew there was a function key combo, but I 
couldn't remember it.  It was the FN key with F6 as I have the function keys 
reversed.

Thanks again



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On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> There's a NumLock F6 key on the old PowerPC laptops and the earliest
> generation MacBook laptop models.  Try pressing F6 or Fn+F6 --
> depending on whether your F-keys are set to software or hardware
> functions. The keyboard layout for these laptops had the volume keys
> on F3, F4, and F5 for mute, volume down, and volume up. On these
> models you could always get the embedded numeric keys to work without
> toggling on the NumLock by pressing the Fn key in combination with the
> corresponding key on the right -- such as Fn+i for the "5" key.  The
> other possibility is that you have Mouse Keys turned on, but that's
> less likely.  You should be able to use NumPad Commander with the
> embedded numeric keypad, but you don't want to turn Mouse Keys on at
> the same time.  I think that when I tried this I lost the ability to
> use some of the main keys like Control, Command, etc. and it was only
> because I had set Mouse Keys to turn on and off with 5 presses of the
> Option key that I was able to easily recover.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 4, 2:12 pm, John Panarese  wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
>> remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
>> friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems to 
>> be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall how to 
>> switch it back to normal input mode?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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Re: Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[Esther]

Hi John,

There's a NumLock F6 key on the old PowerPC laptops and the earliest
generation MacBook laptop models.  Try pressing F6 or Fn+F6 --
depending on whether your F-keys are set to software or hardware
functions. The keyboard layout for these laptops had the volume keys
on F3, F4, and F5 for mute, volume down, and volume up. On these
models you could always get the embedded numeric keys to work without
toggling on the NumLock by pressing the Fn key in combination with the
corresponding key on the right -- such as Fn+i for the "5" key.  The
other possibility is that you have Mouse Keys turned on, but that's
less likely.  You should be able to use NumPad Commander with the
embedded numeric keypad, but you don't want to turn Mouse Keys on at
the same time.  I think that when I tried this I lost the ability to
use some of the main keys like Control, Command, etc. and it was only
because I had set Mouse Keys to turn on and off with 5 presses of the
Option key that I was able to easily recover.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 4, 2:12 pm, John Panarese  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>     For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
> remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
> friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems to 
> be functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall how to 
> switch it back to normal input mode?
>
> Thanks
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website,http://www.macfortheblind.com
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Re: Hotspots in Safari

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi max 
Try adding a wen spot! Vo command shift ( I believe is the command. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> I am trying to use hotspots. VO 1 to jump to hotspot one, you set this by VO 
> Shift 1. I may not be understanding the use of hotspots. On a regular visited 
> page it is nice to be able to jump to place on that page quickly. Could be 
> the weather page, so you may wish to jump to the current temp etc.
> Thanks,
> Max.
> On 05/11/2012, at 10:56 AM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> 
>> are you thinking web spots?
>> I have a few web spots set up and they are able to return if i change pages.
>> For example i have one set for the search results of amazon.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Chris Bruinenberg
>> cbrui...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, have just been trying Hotspots after an earlier message today. Do 
>>> nI understand that a hotspot will only take until the web page is 
>>> refreshed? I find they are not set when I return to the page.
>>> Thanks again for another pointer.
>>> Max.
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Re: Hotspots in Safari

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I am trying to use hotspots. VO 1 to jump to hotspot one, you set this by VO 
Shift 1. I may not be understanding the use of hotspots. On a regular visited 
page it is nice to be able to jump to place on that page quickly. Could be the 
weather page, so you may wish to jump to the current temp etc.
Thanks,
Max.
On 05/11/2012, at 10:56 AM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:

> are you thinking web spots?
> I have a few web spots set up and they are able to return if i change pages.
> For example i have one set for the search results of amazon.
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris Bruinenberg
> cbrui...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, have just been trying Hotspots after an earlier message today. Do nI 
>> understand that a hotspot will only take until the web page is refreshed? I 
>> find they are not set when I return to the page.
>> Thanks again for another pointer.
>> Max.
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Picking the brains of you Mac veterans

[John Panarese]

Hi guys,
For those of you users who remember Leopard and older Macs, I am not 
remembering something from those days.  I got an old iBook G4 back from a 
friend and the laptop keyboard is stuck so that the numeric keypad seems to be 
functioning on the right side of the keyboard.  Does anyone recall how to 
switch it back to normal input mode?

Thanks


Take Care

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Re: iMac Temperature

[Chris Bruinenberg]

I believe there is a program called fan control.
it does a similar thing.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 4, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running at?
> On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Hotspots in Safari

[Chris Bruinenberg]

are you thinking web spots?
I have a few web spots set up and they are able to return if i change pages.
For example i have one set for the search results of amazon.
Thanks.

Chris Bruinenberg
cbrui...@gmail.com



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> Hi all, have just been trying Hotspots after an earlier message today. Do nI 
> understand that a hotspot will only take until the web page is refreshed? I 
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> Thanks again for another pointer.
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Hotspots in Safari

[Agent086b]

Hi all, have just been trying Hotspots after an earlier message today. Do nI 
understand that a hotspot will only take until the web page is refreshed? I 
find they are not set when I return to the page.
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iMac Temperature

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Hello all, is there a way of telling what Temperature the iMac is running at?
On the PC I had a program called Speedfan to do this.
Thanks for any help.
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Re: any accessible Facebook programs for OS X Lion?

[Teresa Cochran]

Does Menutab allow access to all of Facebook's features, such as notes and 
messages?

Teresa

On Nov 4, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> there are 2 html content windows. also, the app may have opened a system 
> window to ask for login information.
> 
> once I found this window, I filled in the required information and it logged 
> me in. 
> 
> -eric
> On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Okay, what am I doing wrong? When I try this app, I see an html
>> content with next to nothing in it, just some frame which itself holds
>> nothing. I see no Facebook-related content whatsoever. I'm not
>> prompted to log in, and I see no menus, so it must be logged in
>> already... I'm running the latest version.
>> 
>> On 11/4/12, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> well, I do have regular menu tab. I could unlock extra features (making it
>>> pro). so far, the interface seems pretty simple.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> 
 Try MenuTab Pro which is a paid Mac App. They do a free ad sponsored
 version too.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 
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> I guess the subject says it all. I know there is an app for the iPhone
> (and I use it) but I cannot seem to find the same app for the mac. any
> ideas? also, is there any accessible alternatives for the Facebook on the
> mac OS X lion platform?
> 
> -eric
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Re: locking application for the mac

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi tim.
Thank you for the vast of information. this helps.

Chris Bruinenberg
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On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don't believe that there is a keyboard command for this but you could go 
> into the Users & Groups pane of the System Prefs, unlock it with your Admin 
> password, then from the Users, Groups and Login Options List, choose Login 
> Options.  Navigate down to the Fast User Switching checkbox and check it then 
> choose Full name from the pop-up menu.
> 
> Now you can press VO-m-m to go to the Status menus, activate the Fast User 
> menu and choose Login Window.  This will essentially bring up the login 
> screen but and others will need to enter your password to get past this 
> screen.
> 
> Alternatively, in the System Prefs, choose the Security & Privacy pane, then 
> select the General tab and check the box for requiring a password after Sleep 
> or Screen Saver.  In this method, if you have a laptop, just close the lid 
> and when it is re-opened, it will require a password to login or press 
> ctrl-eject to bring up the Sleep, Restart, Shutdown dialog then just press 
> "s" to Sleep the machine.  Because you have this set, it will lock your 
> machine and require a password to get back in.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-11-04, at 12:01 AM, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is there an app that would allow me to use command l or some keyboard 
>> combination to lock my mac?
>> THis is one small feature i miss from windows, sadly i'm admitting it.
>> 
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>> cbrui...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Pages and APA 6th edition style

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Tammy,

I've mentioned several times on this list that I can send anyone a template for 
the APA format. It contains all the necessary styles and heading formats. You 
just have to type over the placeholder text and it will be correctly formatted. 
Also, we put in examples of all the formats for references. You just need to 
select that text and copy it into a TextEdit document as a reference guide.

Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Nov 2012, at 21:21, Tammy Abreu-Butron  wrote:

> I guess I'm really looking for an add-in software or template that will 
> automatically allow me to select headers, paragraph style, citing with 
> various formatting designations that APA requires by source type, etc.  I 
> know there is a msword based program thar sits on top of word, but I prefer 
> pages.  All the fussy in-text, and references that require the constant cross 
> checking against the APA manual is very time consuming and taxes my limited 
> vision severely.  
> I was hoping for an automatic integration between writing a paper and 
> formatting it with current APA guidelines, like a set of preformatted options 
> from the editing tools.
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Re: any accessible Facebook programs for OS X Lion?

[Eric Oyen]

there are 2 html content windows. also, the app may have opened a system window 
to ask for login information.

once I found this window, I filled in the required information and it logged me 
in. 

-eric
On Nov 4, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

> Okay, what am I doing wrong? When I try this app, I see an html
> content with next to nothing in it, just some frame which itself holds
> nothing. I see no Facebook-related content whatsoever. I'm not
> prompted to log in, and I see no menus, so it must be logged in
> already... I'm running the latest version.
> 
> On 11/4/12, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> well, I do have regular menu tab. I could unlock extra features (making it
>> pro). so far, the interface seems pretty simple.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> Try MenuTab Pro which is a paid Mac App. They do a free ad sponsored
>>> version too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> 
>>> On 01/11/2012 11:37, Eric Oyen wrote:
 I guess the subject says it all. I know there is an app for the iPhone
 (and I use it) but I cannot seem to find the same app for the mac. any
 ideas? also, is there any accessible alternatives for the Facebook on the
 mac OS X lion platform?
 
 -eric
 
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Re: Pages and APA 6th edition style

[Tammy Abreu-Butron]

I guess I'm really looking for an add-in software or template that will 
automatically allow me to select headers, paragraph style, citing with various 
formatting designations that APA requires by source type, etc.  I know there is 
a msword based program thar sits on top of word, but I prefer pages.  All the 
fussy in-text, and references that require the constant cross checking against 
the APA manual is very time consuming and taxes my limited vision severely.  
I was hoping for an automatic integration between writing a paper and 
formatting it with current APA guidelines, like a set of preformatted options 
from the editing tools.


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On Oct 21, 2012, at 12:39 PM, "Bejarano, Rafael P."  wrote:

> If you are looking for software, such as that which works with Microsoft word 
> to help detect formatting mistakes, I think you may be out of luck.I have 
> never had any problems using Pages to format my own psychology papers, 
> though, so you should be able to write papers in APA style in Pages without 
> any problems, as long as you keep the APA style guide on hand.
> 
> Rafael Bejarano
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Eugenia Firth [gigifi...@me.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:42 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: macvisionaries
> Subject: Re: Pages and APA 6th edition style
> 
> Hi Tammy
> Maybe I just don't get it or something but are you saying that you are using 
> pages? Because pages is accessible. So, if you're using pages what else is it 
> that you need added that you don't have now?
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Tammy Abreu-Butron 
> mailto:tammybut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I have a degenerative disease,  this semester has been significantly more 
> difficult as I can no longer see beyond two inches from my good eye.  As a 
> result I began searching for an add-in or word processing program that I can 
> use with pages to help me write my psych papers.
> I've spent seven hours trying to resolve my issues today and made little 
> progress.  Tried
> I realize much of my difficulty is due to my additional vision loss and below 
> par blind skills. Can anyone suggest an accessible program that I can get up 
> and running quickly?
> Thanks!
> Tammy
> 
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Re: Barcode scanner?

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi again Mel

I forgot to mention that those labels believe it or not, can go on things in 
the freezer. I have never been able to label successfully anything in the 
freezer. Everything I ever tried selloffs. Oh yes, it even stick on Ziploc 
freezer bags.
 

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> Hi Mel,
> 
> I also have Digit-Eyes, which is $19.99, and is used for both scanning
> commercial bar codes and for creating personal audio labels with QR
> codes that you print out. If you only want to try out the custom
> labelling and reading feature on a limited basis, there is a free lite
> version that can be upgraded to to add the main commercial bar code
> scanning through in-app purchases, but you probably want the full
> version. Here are the URLs at the app store:
> • Digit-Eyes Audio Scanner and Labeler  ($19.99)
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-audio-scanner-labeler/id376424490?mt=8
> • Digit-Eyes Lite QR Bar Code Reader and Labeler (free)
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-lite-audio-labeler/id379865944?mt=8
> 
> Check their web site for tips and usage instructions:
> • Digit-Eyes web site
> http://www.digit-eyes.com
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 4, 3:17 am, Mary Scott  wrote:
>> Thank you.  I will get it today.  Mel
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there the scanner I like these days is a digit eyes. It also has 
>>> labeling features that you can use, and it is set up for blind users. Of 
>>> course, that means it works real good with voiceover.
>>> Gigi
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Re: Barcode scanner?

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
I didn't even bother doing the lighter version and then upgrading. The other 
thing is instead of printing out the make labels, I bought the ones that the 
company has. I don't have the proper printer to do all those labels just so, so 
I don't want to go to the trouble. The other thing is, they have the paper 
labels and the plastic labels. I Think they are plastic. Anyway, you can take 
these plastic labels and stick them on two canisters, and even send them 
through the dishwasher. They still work asking I go through the dishwasher. 
It's rather Amazing.


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> Hi Mel,
> 
> I also have Digit-Eyes, which is $19.99, and is used for both scanning
> commercial bar codes and for creating personal audio labels with QR
> codes that you print out. If you only want to try out the custom
> labelling and reading feature on a limited basis, there is a free lite
> version that can be upgraded to to add the main commercial bar code
> scanning through in-app purchases, but you probably want the full
> version. Here are the URLs at the app store:
> • Digit-Eyes Audio Scanner and Labeler  ($19.99)
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-audio-scanner-labeler/id376424490?mt=8
> • Digit-Eyes Lite QR Bar Code Reader and Labeler (free)
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-lite-audio-labeler/id379865944?mt=8
> 
> Check their web site for tips and usage instructions:
> • Digit-Eyes web site
> http://www.digit-eyes.com
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Nov 4, 3:17 am, Mary Scott  wrote:
>> Thank you.  I will get it today.  Mel
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there the scanner I like these days is a digit eyes. It also has 
>>> labeling features that you can use, and it is set up for blind users. Of 
>>> course, that means it works real good with voiceover.
>>> Gigi
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Re: restore

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi wayne,
If you restore it, you should have ml.

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> hello all i have a mba upgraded from lion and wish to restore it back to 
> default to give it to my son so the question is if i restore it will i have 
> to install ml again or will it stay as ml after the restore thanks fro any 
> help with this 
> wayne coles 
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restore

[Wayne Coles]

hello all i have a mba upgraded from lion and wish to restore it back to 
default to give it to my son so the question is if i restore it will i have to 
install ml again or will it stay as ml after the restore thanks fro any help 
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Re: locking application for the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I don't believe that there is a keyboard command for this but you could go into 
the Users & Groups pane of the System Prefs, unlock it with your Admin 
password, then from the Users, Groups and Login Options List, choose Login 
Options.  Navigate down to the Fast User Switching checkbox and check it then 
choose Full name from the pop-up menu.

Now you can press VO-m-m to go to the Status menus, activate the Fast User menu 
and choose Login Window.  This will essentially bring up the login screen but 
and others will need to enter your password to get past this screen.

Alternatively, in the System Prefs, choose the Security & Privacy pane, then 
select the General tab and check the box for requiring a password after Sleep 
or Screen Saver.  In this method, if you have a laptop, just close the lid and 
when it is re-opened, it will require a password to login or press ctrl-eject 
to bring up the Sleep, Restart, Shutdown dialog then just press "s" to Sleep 
the machine.  Because you have this set, it will lock your machine and require 
a password to get back in.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi all.
> Is there an app that would allow me to use command l or some keyboard 
> combination to lock my mac?
> THis is one small feature i miss from windows, sadly i'm admitting it.
> 
> Chris Bruinenberg
> cbrui...@gmail.com
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Re: Need help with time machine on network.

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello,

Are you saying that it is better to connect to the router rather than 
connecting the cable directly between the two computers? Do you by any chance 
know why that would be ? I just would like to understand this whole process 
better.

Thank you for your help,

Ioana

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> Connect the two computers through the router.
>  
> Share the drive out to the network, then specify it as the backup for the 
> second computer not connected directly to it.
>  
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Re: How Best to Track My placees

[Mauricio Almeida]

oh. thank you for that. it isn't extremely high then, I just wanted to make 
sure:)
will be downloading and purchasing it later today.

Mauricio
On Nov 4, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa  wrote:

> I do have a counters in beta version so I can give some numbers. If you are 
> in area where there is reasonable amount of places, one call to FourSquare is 
> 32 KB. I tested that in center of New York, it's 40 KB. One call the get 
> nearest street crossings (OSM) is 4 KB. 
> 
> BlindSquare knows the area it has got from 4sq and OSM so it makes new query 
> when you are on boundary of last query. If you make category search or search 
> by name, FourSquare result is 10-40 KB. 
> 
> If we estimate that BS makes 20 queries to 4sq in 60 minutes and 30 to OSM, 
> it would mean 40*20 + 4*30 = 920 KB / hour. It's about 8 mb/h (mega 
> bits/hour). I hope my math is okay. I can also test this in practice. If you 
> drive by car you get more often to the boundaries and BS needs new data.
> 
> PS. I'm currently implementing caching. It minimizes data usage when you are 
> on same area and it gives also possibility to off-line use (for example 
> preloading area from hotel wifi if you are abroad). 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Mauricio Almeida 
>  wrote:
> hello there.
> 
> I want to use this app, but iw ould like to discuss something with you first.
> do you have any way of estimating how much data it uses? i want to upgrade my 
> plan accordingly.
> 
> thank you
> 
> mauricio
> 
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa  wrote:
> 
>> It's 15 USD. You pay it once and use it forever. Big part of the price is 
>> it's own TTS that some users love and someone would like that it would use 
>> VoiceOver only. 
>> 
>> I have to also mention that it uses paid high quality backend services for 
>> OpenStreetMaps that I pay for each users all the time. I just can't lower 
>> the price to be able to make this kind of app possible. But it's worth it 
>> anyway :-)
>> 
>> If you don't like it, there is alway Apple policy that makes returning the 
>> app possible. App has been available for 6 months and I have seen one return!
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:
>> How much is this app?  Is there a way to try it first before I buy?
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 1:23 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>> 
>>> When you select a target, it reports your distance and clock face to that 
>>> target. When you were on a bus, were you sitting close to window and your 
>>> device on the side of the window? You should do that, then device has GPS 
>>> signal. Otherwise it uses cell tower estimation or even wifi based location 
>>> that can be inaccurate or even wrong: I have seen that database of wifi 
>>> locations is usually just okay but if some people have moved, they have 
>>> moved also that wifi to new address and your location might jump! For this 
>>> reason I have warning mechanism in BlindSquare if it notices this kind of 
>>> "jump". 
>>> 
>>> So, please make sure you have clean coordinates on your places you are 
>>> tracking and make sure you have best possible GPS accuracy when tracking. 
>>> And let me know when you have tested it more. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>> I am confused about how to track.  I set a place from within my places 
>>> which was at an office I work out of.  I set it up at my home address.  It 
>>> reported after I set it up that it was 0 feet; at the time, I ignored that 
>>> message.  I then got on the bus and while on route, started tracking the 
>>> office.  I first heard the target address and it reported 1.7 miles.  I 
>>> assumed that was the distance to the tracking location.  However, as we got 
>>> closer to it, the distance went up.  When I got off the bus, I heard the 
>>> distance reported as close to three miles.  When I got close to the 
>>> location, it reported I was about five feet away, but this occurred on a 
>>> previous trip before I had set a location to track.  So my question is what 
>>> does the distance represent?  Is it the distance from my house where I set 
>>> the location to the actual location?  By the way, when I reached my home on 
>>> the return trip, I heard my address announced, as well as the tracked 
>>> location of 0 feet.  I thought tracking a location meant the closer you 
>>> got, the smaller the distance to the location?  Please explain how this 
>>> works.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Nov 2, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello! When you have searched the target (by category list, search, recent 
 places or My Places) and you are on page that shows name, address, phone 
 number etc. (what information exists for that place), there are two 
 buttons:
 
 1) "Start Tracking": BS starts to report constantly distance and clock 
 face direction where the place is. This is not "turn-by-turn" 
 2) "Plan a route": BS finds wha

do you recommend any apps to use man on the iPhone was: how to remove an iPhone app

[Mauricio Almeida]

thanks, alex!
that worked just fine here.
now that this is tone, do you guys have any app with which i can use man 
account to recommend?

regards,

mauricio
On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Double tap and hold on the app (double tap, but don't lift your finger
> the second time). You'll hear three ascending tones, then vo will say
> "moving messenger". Now lift your finger, then double tap normally.
> iOS will alert you that deleting this app will delete all its content
> and ask if you really want to do this. Find and double tap the delete
> button and the app will be gone. Press the home button to get out of
> this app moving mode and return to normal, otherwise any double
> tapping of an app will prompt you to delete it.
> 
> On 11/4/12, Mauricio Almeida  wrote:
>> dear all,
>> 
>> I have installed messenger on my iPhone, only to find out i  now receive
>> duplicate messages on the iPhone and adium, and sometimes i don't receive
>> them on adium at all.
>> How do i go about removing messenger from the iPhone? I am sure the process
>> must be the same for any other app,  except i haven't removed any at all.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> mauricio
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Re: Barcode scanner?

[Esther]

Hi Mel,

I also have Digit-Eyes, which is $19.99, and is used for both scanning
commercial bar codes and for creating personal audio labels with QR
codes that you print out. If you only want to try out the custom
labelling and reading feature on a limited basis, there is a free lite
version that can be upgraded to to add the main commercial bar code
scanning through in-app purchases, but you probably want the full
version. Here are the URLs at the app store:
• Digit-Eyes Audio Scanner and Labeler  ($19.99)
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-audio-scanner-labeler/id376424490?mt=8
• Digit-Eyes Lite QR Bar Code Reader and Labeler (free)
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/digit-eyes-lite-audio-labeler/id379865944?mt=8

Check their web site for tips and usage instructions:
• Digit-Eyes web site
http://www.digit-eyes.com

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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> Thank you.  I will get it today.  Mel
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>
> > Hi there the scanner I like these days is a digit eyes. It also has 
> > labeling features that you can use, and it is set up for blind users. Of 
> > course, that means it works real good with voiceover.
> > Gigi

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Re: Barcode scanner?

[Mary Scott]

Thank you.  I will get it today.  Mel
On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there the scanner I like these days is a digit eyes. It also has labeling 
> features that you can use, and it is set up for blind users. Of course, that 
> means it works real good with voiceover.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Traci  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, I've just begun playing with this sort of app.
>> 
>> I've been using Red Laser.
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/redlaser-barcode-scanner-shopping/id474902001?mt=8
>> 
>> It takes a few seconds and some patients, but the app beeps when it 
>> recognizes the barcode.  I read helpful tips to figure out where barcodes 
>> are.  For example on a can of food, it typically is near the seam.  I found 
>> on a CD case, if I slowly moved my phone around the square, within 
>> 30-seconds or so, the barcode was found.  It even worked for me on a bag of 
>> shredded cheese.  :)
>> 
>> The other app I'm using, that I'm not a familiar with is: Consmr.
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/consmr-reviews-grocery-baby/id519874080?mt=8
>> 
>> This app seems to lead you to a real community of consumer reviews.
>> 
>> Good luck, :)
>> Traci
>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 8:20 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Mel,
>>> 
>>> I use Digit-Eyes. Its full title is:
>>> Digit-Eyes Audio Scanner and Labeler
>>> As you can see, it's more than just a barcode scanner. It really is an 
>>> excellent app with great support. I'm not sure how much it costs as I 
>>> bought it quite a while ago and, in any case, I pay in euros.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> On 3 Nov 2012, at 15:34, Mary Scott  wrote:
>>> 
 Now I want a barcode scanner for my phone.  What is a good one?  I am 
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Re: question for mac mini users

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You need a camera for Facetime, and at least a microphone for Skype.
The Mini, like all Macs, has a line-in jack, not a regular microphone
jack. This means that you either need a USB sound card into which you
can plug a normal, unpowered microphone; you need a USB microphone or
headset; or you need to use a powered microphone of some kind. I was
quite frustrated when I plugged my cheap desktop mic inot my mini and
nothing happened, but I found out that the Mac won't pick up signals
from a device like that, they need to be amplified somehow. A USB
device will solve this. Also, Apple earbuds with microphone should
work, but you cannot then use normal speakers as sound will come
through the headphones.

On 11/3/12, Kliphton  wrote:
> So, my custom built mac mini will be here sometime this week.  And since I
> will be having it for the first time, there are a few things I need to know.
>  I have found instructions on how to pair my bt keyboard, so that issue is
> solved.  But for Skype, and FaceTime, will the mac mini make and receive
> calls with these 2 apps if I don't have a USB camera attached?
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Re: how to remove an iPhone app?

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Double tap and hold on the app (double tap, but don't lift your finger
the second time). You'll hear three ascending tones, then vo will say
"moving messenger". Now lift your finger, then double tap normally.
iOS will alert you that deleting this app will delete all its content
and ask if you really want to do this. Find and double tap the delete
button and the app will be gone. Press the home button to get out of
this app moving mode and return to normal, otherwise any double
tapping of an app will prompt you to delete it.

On 11/4/12, Mauricio Almeida  wrote:
> dear all,
>
> I have installed messenger on my iPhone, only to find out i  now receive
> duplicate messages on the iPhone and adium, and sometimes i don't receive
> them on adium at all.
> How do i go about removing messenger from the iPhone? I am sure the process
> must be the same for any other app,  except i haven't removed any at all.
>
> thanks
>
> mauricio
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Re: any accessible Facebook programs for OS X Lion?

[Alex Hall]

Okay, what am I doing wrong? When I try this app, I see an html
content with next to nothing in it, just some frame which itself holds
nothing. I see no Facebook-related content whatsoever. I'm not
prompted to log in, and I see no menus, so it must be logged in
already... I'm running the latest version.

On 11/4/12, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> well, I do have regular menu tab. I could unlock extra features (making it
> pro). so far, the interface seems pretty simple.
>
> -eric
>
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Chris wrote:
>
>> Try MenuTab Pro which is a paid Mac App. They do a free ad sponsored
>> version too.
>>
>>
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>
>> On 01/11/2012 11:37, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> I guess the subject says it all. I know there is an app for the iPhone
>>> (and I use it) but I cannot seem to find the same app for the mac. any
>>> ideas? also, is there any accessible alternatives for the Facebook on the
>>> mac OS X lion platform?
>>>
>>> -eric
>>>
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Re: any accessible Facebook programs for OS X Lion?

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well, I do have regular menu tab. I could unlock extra features (making it 
pro). so far, the interface seems pretty simple. 

-eric

On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Chris wrote:

> Try MenuTab Pro which is a paid Mac App. They do a free ad sponsored version 
> too.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 01/11/2012 11:37, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> I guess the subject says it all. I know there is an app for the iPhone (and 
>> I use it) but I cannot seem to find the same app for the mac. any ideas? 
>> also, is there any accessible alternatives for the Facebook on the mac OS X 
>> lion platform?
>> 
>> -eric
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Re: question about hotspots

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Anne,

thanks for the respond. And thanks for the good idea. 

All the best
Jürgen

Am 04.11.2012 um 09:26 schrieb Anne Robertson :

> Hello Jürgen,
> 
> Hotspots can certainly be unstable, especially in applications where objects 
> are moved around on the screen. I also find that they can be tricky to set 
> correctly sometimes. I use them in Pages to monitor what styles are being 
> used, and for that, each HotSpot has to be set on each table in the Styles 
> drawer, but without interacting with the table.
> 
> I also use Hotspots when doing a crossword online. There, I set a Hotspot on 
> the current clue so that I can both read the clue while I'm looking at what's 
> already in the grid, and jump back to the clue afterwards. I then unset that 
> Hotspot and set it again on the next clue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 3 Nov 2012, at 22:58, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
>> What are your experiences of Hot Spots? I tried it a few times but each time 
>> after a short period of time VO forgot the hot spots. I'm wondering wether 
>> it was a users mistake or wether hot spots are not very stable and reliable.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Jürgen
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Re: question about hotspots

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jürgen,

Hotspots can certainly be unstable, especially in applications where objects 
are moved around on the screen. I also find that they can be tricky to set 
correctly sometimes. I use them in Pages to monitor what styles are being used, 
and for that, each HotSpot has to be set on each table in the Styles drawer, 
but without interacting with the table.

I also use Hotspots when doing a crossword online. There, I set a Hotspot on 
the current clue so that I can both read the clue while I'm looking at what's 
already in the grid, and jump back to the clue afterwards. I then unset that 
Hotspot and set it again on the next clue.

Cheers,

Anne


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> What are your experiences of Hot Spots? I tried it a few times but each time 
> after a short period of time VO forgot the hot spots. I'm wondering wether it 
> was a users mistake or wether hot spots are not very stable and reliable.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen

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