Re: Scanners or cameras compatible with ABBYY FineReader Express

2013-02-24 Thread Anne Robertson
I use a Canon Lide 110 directly with ABBYY FineReader with no problems at all.

Cheers,

Anne


On 24 Feb 2013, at 02:45, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:

 lide software sucks.  I used it for a little while in my business and I lived 
 in terror of the mail box and the daily mail sort.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf

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OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread jshandra72

Hello All, 

Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted a 
petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying to 
block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary hold 
on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind community 
is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your choice 
whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it around to your 
friends and family to sign. Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7

Vest, J. p.

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firefox

2013-02-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Ray asked about whether firefox is ready for prime time but it was asked under 
the webvisum thread. This really doesn't belong in the webvisum thread as it's 
going to be confusing for anybody trying to find information about webvisum. As 
for prime time which I believe was Ray's question, thatdepends on whose 
prime time. I use it but i haven't made it my default browser. It definitely 
can be used but probably takes more experience than safari to know what to do.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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Is the list down?

2013-02-24 Thread Tom Frank
I'm not getting any messages from this list serve or my VIPhone list. Are they 
down or is it me? 
Tom Frank
vermont...@gmail.com




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 Part 3 of my audio tutorial on Garageband is up.  You can listen at
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 hth
 
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 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
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Re: Is the list down?

2013-02-24 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

No, the list is working fine. I'm getting all messages.

On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Tom Frank vermont...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not getting any messages from this list serve or my VIPhone list. Are 
 they down or is it me? 
 Tom Frank
 vermont...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 17, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Part 3 of my audio tutorial on Garageband is up.  You can listen at
 http://goo.gl/HFDM4
 
 hth
 
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OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread J.P.
Update: We have 90 signatures so far. Keep passing on... Thanks!

J.P.

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Re: Free Software or real instrument sounds or loops for GB

2013-02-24 Thread Phil Halton
I can tell you that the DLSMusicDevice soundfont player that comes with GB 
was broken in Mountain Lion, so don't bother with sound fonts unless you 
know of another soundfont player that you can install into GB. If you find 
such a beast, please let the list know.



- Original Message - 
From: Johnny Angel! beefca...@neo.rr.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com MacVisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:53 PM
Subject: Free Software or real instrument sounds or loops for GB


Hi everyone!
I'm back after some serious cancer related issues.  The good news is that 
The good doctor has now given me a clean bill of health.  I am cancer 
FREE!!!  Anyway I really mis the list here and have been doing a lot to 
start from scratch with my 13 inch 8 GB MBP.  I can tell you that it's true: 
That if you don't use it, you loose it.  It's been perhaps 3 and a half 
months since I even looked at my MBP.  So I decided to start learning the 
Mac again by using GarageBand.  Anyway, does anyone know where I can pick up 
some free but very nice software or real instrument samples or loops that I 
can import into GB?


Thanks for all the help.  And in advance, I must say thanks for all the 
patients and understanding in answering all of my beginner-like questions. 
you guys are the best,


Blessings,

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Facetime on mac

2013-02-24 Thread -


Is there a way to answer facetime calls on a mac with key commands or 
otherwise not having to use the mouse?


Thanks.
XB

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Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!

2013-02-24 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hello. 
That's very sad indeed. If I had known this before, I would never had purchased 
my note II in the first place. 
Any way, too late now to return it. smile 

Nektarios.

On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will never purchase one of their products! I can't believe they are so 
 small minded! What do you expect from lawyers!
 
 
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
 richr...@gmail.com
 
 On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:22 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hey Guys, 
 
 This is completely off topic. However, this story I'm posting here is 
 disturbing. 
 samsung is suing Apple in a German court over Voice Over. They are claiming 
 it violated one of their patents. What is disturbing, they are trying to get 
 devices with Voice Over banned. Knowing what this would do to the blind 
 community. This is so utterly despicable to me. This is just not a 
 calculated business move. This could actually affect how the blind community 
 has access to GOOD devices. As we all know, no one touches Apple when it 
 comes to including the disabled with its computer and iOS devices. Anyways, 
 I thought you might find this interesting. 
 http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/02/22/samsungs-disability-lawsuit/
  
 
 Best, J. p.
 
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Re: Is the list down?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris H

Well I got this message so I guess no.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 24/02/2013 15:41, Tom Frank wrote:

I'm not getting any messages from this list serve or my VIPhone list.
Are they down or is it me?
Tom Frank
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mailto:rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Folks,

Part 3 of my audio tutorial on Garageband is up.  You can listen at
http://goo.gl/HFDM4

hth

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197



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Setting up vertual box on my mac?

2013-02-24 Thread matthew Dyer
Hi all,

Does anyone here on this list use vertual box?  If so, how do you use it so 
that you can run it with windows/vinux etc.  I have been doing some research on 
it but most of it is command line based.  If anyone knows how to do this 
accessibly please pass iit my way.  Thanks.

Matthew


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Re: Setting up vertual box on my mac?

2013-02-24 Thread Alex Hall
It is not at all accessible on the mac, you have to create the vm in Windows 
and then export it. You'll then import that vm on the mac, and hope you hit the 
right keys at the right time. An easier way would be to have sighted help for 
the initial setup. Either way, here's a link that might help you (thanks 
Twitter):
Virtualbox on OSX Text Howto http://alex.thebinaryportal.net/vbx.html
On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:48 PM, matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com 
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 Does anyone here on this list use vertual box?  If so, how do you use it so 
 that you can run it with windows/vinux etc.  I have been doing some research 
 on it but most of it is command line based.  If anyone knows how to do this 
 accessibly please pass iit my way.  Thanks.
 
 Matthew
 
 
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Amadeus Lite versus Pro

2013-02-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi
What are the accessibility differences between lite and pro? From the info in 
the app store, Amadeus Lite seems to do all I want it to do but am not sure if 
it is as accessible as the Pro version seems to be.
Any advice welcome.  What additional functionality does pro give i.e. is the 
quality of the compression better for instance?
Thanks.

Lisette

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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
How long is this thing good for? I did it because I think it's the least I can 
do, even though the case is not here in the United States, at least not yet.
I realize it's not an easy process, but I personally think we should get laws 
passed saying that companies can't mess with accessibility in this manner. This 
is because they are not just attacking the company they want to attack. They 
are doing it to their customers as well. Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hello All, 
 
 Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted 
 a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying 
 to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary 
 hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind 
 community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your 
 choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it 
 around to your friends and family to sign. Thanks for the 
 support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7
 
 Vest, J. p.
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Re: Amadeus Lite versus Pro

2013-02-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

That, and what are the differences, in general?

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From: Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:38
Subject: Amadeus Lite versus Pro



Hi
What are the accessibility differences between lite and pro? From the info 
in the app store, Amadeus Lite seems to do all I want it to do but am not 
sure if it is as accessible as the Pro version seems to be.
Any advice welcome.  What additional functionality does pro give i.e. is 
the quality of the compression better for instance?

Thanks.

Lisette

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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread J.P.
I'm in U.S. too. This affects all. Theres no time limit... 215 signatures so 
far since post yesterday.

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Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Jed Barton
Hey gang,
Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
tried it on a mac yet?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Christine Grassman
I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook considerably 
less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for screen readers.
Christine

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 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
 side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
 exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
 tried it on a mac yet?
 
 Thanks,
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RE: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Jed Barton
What a shame, they have screwed it up so bad, damn. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using facebook on a mac

I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use
search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook
considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for
screen readers.
Christine

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 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on 
 the PC side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on 
 internet exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering 
 if anyone ahs tried it on a mac yet?
 
 Thanks,
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bug in calendar on mac

2013-02-24 Thread William Windels
Hello,
When I have a appointment with a repetition e.g. every day at 5pm during 7 
days, I can't change the time for one particular day in that repetition on osx.
If I do the same action on iOS, I receive a message like:
do you want touch change the time for this day only or for all the days in the 
repetition?

If this bug is really the case, it's sometimes so frustrating that apple is 
doing only a half of there tests they should do for a good working system.

With frustrated regards,
William Windels

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Re: Scanners or cameras compatible with ABBYY FineReader Express

2013-02-24 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,

Would using the cameras on iDevices work? iPhone, Ipod Touch and iPads?

Gena

On 24/02/2013 08:33, Anne Robertson wrote:

I use a Canon Lide 110 directly with ABBYY FineReader with no problems at all.

Cheers,

Anne


On 24 Feb 2013, at 02:45, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:


lide software sucks.  I used it for a little while in my business and I lived 
in terror of the mail box and the daily mail sort.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf




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New Tech Doctor Podcast

2013-02-24 Thread ROBERT CARTER
In this Tech Doctor podcast, (affectionately called the Hodge-Podge-Cast) 
Allison and Robert explore several software apps, discuss jail breaking and 
discuss some new hardware as well.

The podcast is available in iTunes, on iBlink Radio and at
http://www.dr-carter.com

Check the show notes for links to the hardware and the software that we 
discussed.

Robert Carter

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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I will of course sign.

I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after 
their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We 
all ought to sign.

Best regards Annie.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hello All, 
 
 Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted 
 a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying 
 to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary 
 hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind 
 community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your 
 choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it 
 around to your friends and family to sign. Thanks for the 
 support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7
 
 Vest, J. p.
 
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Re: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment!

2013-02-24 Thread Steve Holmes
I like this last message best.  To add to the hope, we now have some greedy 
investors demanding a guaranteed 4% return on their investment for sitting 
around and doing nothing! Greedy Wall Street investors demand quick fix 
solutions and responses and short term deliverables which may be contributing 
to some of the recent things being released too quickly and possibly with 
errors that could otherwise have been fixed by delaying implementation dates.

Anyway, I'm rambling here but I wanna be sure I'm not apologizing for Apple's 
mistakes but at the same time, I think they still have quality products and 
accessibility is still good and I feel that it has not slipped or gone 
backwards.

On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:51 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree that it is in large part perception and what one is telling
 themselves. It is easy if one is not careful to overstate the problems
 as to how they shape the entire picture and to overstate how great
 things were in the past (grass is always greener). It is easy to take
 the problems and create an entire gloom and doom and paint a picture
 for yourself of where it is going and to tell yourself how perfect it
 was in the past. I think Apple has more issues than they should, but I
 don't really think they have mor issue than they did a few years ago.
 As is pointed out in the message below, IOS 3.x versions were far from
 perfect. Were they truly over all such a better over all situation, I
 don't think so honestly. It is easy to combine the above with what the
 press is trying to jam down your throat about Apple. There is such a
 large contingency of them that want Apple dead! I think it is in part
 because Google gives them what they want and Apple doesn't in terms of
 data they want about people as well as advertising dollars being a
 huge part of the picture where they are not in that kind of
 relationship with Apple. The news media blows up every Apple issue to
 the point of distortion and almost never mention an issue about any
 other platform. They fill their articles with statements about how
 Apple has lost their glory, Apple is no longer relavent and how Nobody
 uses Apple products any more. Then some how completely out of line
 with their story, Apple sells millions of Iphones every quarter still.
 
 On 2/15/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I tend to disagree.  I think its just peoples perception, and awareness
 changing since Steve Jobs passing.  Basically, IOS is not new anymore, and
 we are less forgiving with mistakes.  And, we now have a convenient excuse
 or, cause for these mistakes, a new person heading Apple.  For example, do
 you guys remember that horrific standby bug in IOS 3.0?  How about antenna
 gate?  Or, iPhone 4 and 4S's being shipped with the glue not dried on launch
 day making peoples display look green?  My point is, mistakes were happening
 before as well.  Same kind of bugs too.  But overall, I still think IOS has
 gotten better, not worse.  Remember what homescreens were like without
 folders?  or fullKeyboard support with Voiceover?  Or how about the app
 switcher.  lol. and on and on.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Blake Sinnett frequency...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I would have to agree. Apple has lost some of their magic ever since the
 middle of last year. Things just seem to be breaking a little too often.
 iCloud, bugs in iOS 6, the maps fiasco... Who knows what'll happen next.
 Of course Tim's just taken over, so maybe after a while things'll smooth
 out. The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens.
 
 Blake
 
 --
 From: jshandr...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:42 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment!
 
 OT: iOS 6 disappointment!
 
 Is anyone else feeling a little sad about the iOS eco-system since
 release in October. Don't get me wrong, there will always be issues.
 However Apple has had so many issues.
 First, you had the complete redesign of iBooks,  App, iTunes store. In
 the first release the blind community lost a lot of access, because we
 didn't even have the ability to see ratings with the new software.
 Second, you had the App store crashing when you would go into the search
 area. This happened to everyone, not just our community.
 thirdly, who can forget the map debacle.
 You have devices going into recovery mode when you do a reset.
 The 6. 1 update you now have exchange issue. The extreme 4s battery
 issue, and now this morning people who use institutional accounts like at
 schools. Individuals can bypass the no downloading option.
 I just find this so sad. apple used to pay such close attention to
 stability, clean UI, and of course accessibility. I still love my Apple
 products, and hope things change under Jony Ive. Is anyone 

Re: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. I've found a great twitter client or two for mac OSX, but, for
facebook, jaws with internet explorer and the facebook mobile site are
still the best combo for me. I hope a decent facebook client or some
other solution will arrive for OSX because I'd really like to finally
ditch windows for good.

Cameron.



On 2/24/13, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 What a shame, they have screwed it up so bad, damn.

 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:57 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Using facebook on a mac

 I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use
 search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook
 considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for
 screen readers.
 Christine

 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:

 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on
 the PC side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on
 internet exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering
 if anyone ahs tried it on a mac yet?

 Thanks,
 Jed

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Re: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
I've been noticing that a lot myself.  I use the mobile site, and even now have 
a lot of trouble searching and the like, and even more trouble with the IPhone 
app.
  I can search for someone using the IPhone app, but when I find someone, it 
won't tell me if they have any mutual friends, just shows the person's name, 
then a link to conferm then, which is a huge inconvenience for me, considering 
the fact that Amanda Smith, is a really comon name, for example, just to 
throw a name out there.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

 I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
 search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook 
 considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for 
 screen readers.
 Christine
 
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
 side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
 exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
 tried it on a mac yet?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: Amadeus Lite versus Pro

2013-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
I was curious about that too actually.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

 That, and what are the differences, in general?
 
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 Founder of CLG Productions
 http://www.clgproductions.com
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 Phone: 803-760-7136
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 - Original Message - From: Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 13:38
 Subject: Amadeus Lite versus Pro
 
 
 Hi
 What are the accessibility differences between lite and pro? From the info 
 in the app store, Amadeus Lite seems to do all I want it to do but am not 
 sure if it is as accessible as the Pro version seems to be.
 Any advice welcome.  What additional functionality does pro give i.e. is the 
 quality of the compression better for instance?
 Thanks.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: Amadeus Lite versus Pro

2013-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, didn't read the previous message in this thread, I actually was curious as 
to what the difference is between the 2.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

 Hi
 What are the accessibility differences between lite and pro? From the info in 
 the app store, Amadeus Lite seems to do all I want it to do but am not sure 
 if it is as accessible as the Pro version seems to be.
 Any advice welcome.  What additional functionality does pro give i.e. is the 
 quality of the compression better for instance?
 Thanks.
 
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Re: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment!

2013-02-24 Thread James Mannion
Yes that is unfortunate. What I wish they would say to Wall street is
screw all of you. We don't need your money and you can sell out if you
want to. I know there is more to it and it is a public company, but
Apple has enough money not to have to take Wall street's crap.

On 2/24/13, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like this last message best.  To add to the hope, we now have some greedy
 investors demanding a guaranteed 4% return on their investment for sitting
 around and doing nothing! Greedy Wall Street investors demand quick fix
 solutions and responses and short term deliverables which may be
 contributing to some of the recent things being released too quickly and
 possibly with errors that could otherwise have been fixed by delaying
 implementation dates.

 Anyway, I'm rambling here but I wanna be sure I'm not apologizing for
 Apple's mistakes but at the same time, I think they still have quality
 products and accessibility is still good and I feel that it has not slipped
 or gone backwards.

 On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:51 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree that it is in large part perception and what one is telling
 themselves. It is easy if one is not careful to overstate the problems
 as to how they shape the entire picture and to overstate how great
 things were in the past (grass is always greener). It is easy to take
 the problems and create an entire gloom and doom and paint a picture
 for yourself of where it is going and to tell yourself how perfect it
 was in the past. I think Apple has more issues than they should, but I
 don't really think they have mor issue than they did a few years ago.
 As is pointed out in the message below, IOS 3.x versions were far from
 perfect. Were they truly over all such a better over all situation, I
 don't think so honestly. It is easy to combine the above with what the
 press is trying to jam down your throat about Apple. There is such a
 large contingency of them that want Apple dead! I think it is in part
 because Google gives them what they want and Apple doesn't in terms of
 data they want about people as well as advertising dollars being a
 huge part of the picture where they are not in that kind of
 relationship with Apple. The news media blows up every Apple issue to
 the point of distortion and almost never mention an issue about any
 other platform. They fill their articles with statements about how
 Apple has lost their glory, Apple is no longer relavent and how Nobody
 uses Apple products any more. Then some how completely out of line
 with their story, Apple sells millions of Iphones every quarter still.

 On 2/15/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I tend to disagree.  I think its just peoples perception, and awareness
 changing since Steve Jobs passing.  Basically, IOS is not new anymore,
 and
 we are less forgiving with mistakes.  And, we now have a convenient
 excuse
 or, cause for these mistakes, a new person heading Apple.  For example,
 do
 you guys remember that horrific standby bug in IOS 3.0?  How about
 antenna
 gate?  Or, iPhone 4 and 4S's being shipped with the glue not dried on
 launch
 day making peoples display look green?  My point is, mistakes were
 happening
 before as well.  Same kind of bugs too.  But overall, I still think IOS
 has
 gotten better, not worse.  Remember what homescreens were like without
 folders?  or fullKeyboard support with Voiceover?  Or how about the app
 switcher.  lol. and on and on.

 Just my 2 cents.

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Blake Sinnett frequency...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I would have to agree. Apple has lost some of their magic ever since
 the
 middle of last year. Things just seem to be breaking a little too
 often.
 iCloud, bugs in iOS 6, the maps fiasco... Who knows what'll happen
 next.
 Of course Tim's just taken over, so maybe after a while things'll
 smooth
 out. The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens.

 Blake

 --
 From: jshandr...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:42 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment!

 OT: iOS 6 disappointment!

 Is anyone else feeling a little sad about the iOS eco-system since
 release in October. Don't get me wrong, there will always be issues.
 However Apple has had so many issues.
 First, you had the complete redesign of iBooks,  App, iTunes store. In
 the first release the blind community lost a lot of access, because we
 didn't even have the ability to see ratings with the new software.
 Second, you had the App store crashing when you would go into the
 search
 area. This happened to everyone, not just our community.
 thirdly, who can forget the map debacle.
 You have devices going into recovery mode when you do a reset.
 The 6. 1 update you now have exchange issue. The extreme 4s battery
 

Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread James Mannion
I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this.
Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real
interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are
willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This
childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until
this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning
voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything
wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have
great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it
weren't nothing but corruption!

On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I will of course sign.

 I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after
 their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We
 all ought to sign.

 Best regards Annie.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello All,

 Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I
 posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to
 Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know
 their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the
 attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for
 PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm
 including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign.
 Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7

 Vest, J. p.

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Re: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread ppowells09
Though  the iPhone app is not perfect, it has made a few   strides. I searched 
for my son for example, whose name is not common, His name came up in the 
search results and told me how many mutual friends he had.

Pam Francis

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

I've been noticing that a lot myself.  I use the mobile site, and even now have 
a lot of trouble searching and the like, and even more trouble with the IPhone 
app.
 I can search for someone using the IPhone app, but when I find someone, it 
won't tell me if they have any mutual friends, just shows the person's name, 
then a link to conferm then, which is a huge inconvenience for me, considering 
the fact that Amanda Smith, is a really comon name, for example, just to 
throw a name out there.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

 I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
 search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook 
 considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for 
 screen readers.
 Christine
 
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
 side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
 exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
 tried it on a mac yet?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of 
their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem 
with it.  It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and 
nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong with 
it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it crashing, 
which was upsetting to me.
  So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had to 
have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile Speak 
again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I unfortunately 
wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait anymore.
  So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend to 
call her Granddad, and check her messages lol.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote:

 I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this.
 Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real
 interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are
 willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This
 childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until
 this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning
 voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything
 wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have
 great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it
 weren't nothing but corruption!
 
 On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I will of course sign.
 
 I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after
 their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We
 all ought to sign.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hello All,
 
 Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I
 posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to
 Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know
 their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the
 attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for
 PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm
 including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign.
 Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7
 
 Vest, J. p.
 
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Re: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Jessica Moss
Really, I've never had any luck with that, maybe you're one of the lucky ones?  
I like it farely well aside from that, compared to what it used to be like.
  How do you keep your deleted messages from resurfacing though?  I do the 
delete gesture, double-tapp it, and when I reopen it later, they've all come 
back again, and of course I have a ton of them from where I've chatted with 
people.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:54 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

 Though  the iPhone app is not perfect, it has made a few   strides. I 
 searched for my son for example, whose name is not common, His name came up 
 in the search results and told me how many mutual friends he had.
 
 Pam Francis
 
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been noticing that a lot myself.  I use the mobile site, and even now 
 have a lot of trouble searching and the like, and even more trouble with the 
 IPhone app.
 I can search for someone using the IPhone app, but when I find someone, it 
 won't tell me if they have any mutual friends, just shows the person's name, 
 then a link to conferm then, which is a huge inconvenience for me, 
 considering the fact that Amanda Smith, is a really comon name, for 
 example, just to throw a name out there.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
 
 I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
 search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook 
 considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for 
 screen readers.
 Christine
 
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
 side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
 exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
 tried it on a mac yet?
 
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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread James Mannion
So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the
excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the
fact that it does not even control something that is equal in
functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it.
This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have
an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they
do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a
worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by
the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your
product sucks!

On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of
 their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem
 with it.  It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and
 nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong
 with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it
 crashing, which was upsetting to me.
   So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had
 to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile
 Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I
 unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait
 anymore.
   So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend
 to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote:

 I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this.
 Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real
 interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are
 willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This
 childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until
 this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning
 voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything
 wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have
 great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it
 weren't nothing but corruption!

 On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I will of course sign.

 I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product
 after
 their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry.
 We
 all ought to sign.

 Best regards Annie.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello All,

 Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I
 posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to
 Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know
 their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know
 the
 attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug
 for
 PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm
 including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign.
 Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7

 Vest, J. p.

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Re: firefox

2013-02-24 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Where can you find the latest version for the Mac?
On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ray asked about whether firefox is ready for prime time but it was asked 
 under the webvisum thread. This really doesn't belong in the webvisum thread 
 as it's going to be confusing for anybody trying to find information about 
 webvisum. As for prime time which I believe was Ray's question, thatdepends 
 on whose prime time. I use it but i haven't made it my default browser. It 
 definitely can be used but probably takes more experience than safari to know 
 what to do.
 
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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread James Mannion
In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I
thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it
was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is
about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things
on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that
Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for
accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are
completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can
only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it
exactly what it is.

http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html

one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect
its investment
in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as
a tactical
weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain scenarios.
For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for
hearing aids,
it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related
patents against
each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent enforcement in
cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested
monetary compensation
in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying
to achieve,
through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more
realistically) degradation
of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers.
In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who
report on and
care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I
completely understand
why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit
like this one.
Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western
hemisphere.
In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this
type of issue
than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should give
more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions
against Apple.

On 2/24/13, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:
 So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the
 excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the
 fact that it does not even control something that is equal in
 functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it.
 This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have
 an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they
 do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a
 worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by
 the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your
 product sucks!

 On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one
 of
 their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after
 problem
 with it.  It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it,
 and
 nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong
 with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it
 crashing, which was upsetting to me.
   So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I
 had
 to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile
 Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I
 unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to
 wait
 anymore.
   So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to
 pretend
 to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote:

 I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this.
 Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real
 interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are
 willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This
 childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until
 this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning
 voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything
 wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have
 great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it
 weren't nothing but corruption!

 On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I will of course sign.

 I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product
 after
 their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am
 angry.
 We
 all ought to sign.

 Best regards Annie.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello All,

 Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I
 posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to
 Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I 

Re: OT: Samsung Suing Apple Over Voice Over!

2013-02-24 Thread Steve Holmes
This is not necessarily a molehill. what if the German courts had sided with 
Samsung? this could have had repercussions worldwide. Also, it was a stay - 
delay till a patent ruling is completed.  In other words, it isn't over yet. We 
need to keep looking back over our shoulders in case similar rulings could 
happen in the US. These patent wars can adversely affect many of us if we sit 
around and do nothing. We need to be concerned and keep out a watchful eye to 
protect our rights and the accessible improvements we all enjoy.

On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can we all just take a chill pill here?
  
 Samsung makes some of the best televisions on the planet.
  
 What happened in Germany has little if anything to do with accessibility at 
 all.
  
 It was part of an ongoing legal maneuver to prevent Apple from kicking their 
 ass in sales and market share.
  
 There's no reason to boycott Samsung for something a bunch of lawyers did in 
 a foreign country.
  
 Why is it that blind people have to make a mountain out of molehills at every 
 opportunity?
  
  
 
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Looking for a good checking account program

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi. I have been looking for a good checking account program for the mac ever 
since giving up money talks from APH.
Since then, I have been using clear Checkbook because I can enter transactions 
and read registry items using either their web site or my iPhone.
I really like the fact that accounts are synced to my phone; so I can make 
entries when away from home and my computer.

I have been playing a bit with Quicken 13 over the weekend. What I have found 
is that their iPhone app will let me enter items into the registries and will 
give me an end of balance total so I know at all times even when away from my 
computer how much is in my accounts.
With a little work, one can even examine registry entries; though I admit that 
this could be better with a little more voiceover support.

what I would like is a program which is useable on my mac or pc and one which 
will also sync data with my iPhone.
I want to be able to add entries as well as examine registry entries with my 
phone.
What are people using out there?

It's a shame we can't have a version of money talks for the mac and one for the 
iPhone where data would be synced between devices.
Is there another checking account program out there other than Clear Checkbook 
which is accessible and syncs data with the iPhone?
Has anyone tried contacting Intuit to see if they would make their Mac app more 
accessible?
I welcome any feedback and will be contacting Intuit myself about whether they 
would be willing to make Quicken 13 more accessible than it's previous versions.
Thanks for any feedback.

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Re: Setting up vertual box on my mac?

2013-02-24 Thread BBS
Hi Matthew. Personally, I think if you have the money, you should buy Fusion. 
At least installing Windows is accessible with it. Just my opinion.

Shawn
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Re: Looking for a good checking account program

2013-02-24 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Checkbook Pro by Splasm Software is wonderful.
On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Paul Henrichsen pfhj2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi. I have been looking for a good checking account program for the mac ever 
 since giving up money talks from APH.
 Since then, I have been using clear Checkbook because I can enter 
 transactions and read registry items using either their web site or my iPhone.
 I really like the fact that accounts are synced to my phone; so I can make 
 entries when away from home and my computer.
 
 I have been playing a bit with Quicken 13 over the weekend. What I have found 
 is that their iPhone app will let me enter items into the registries and will 
 give me an end of balance total so I know at all times even when away from my 
 computer how much is in my accounts.
 With a little work, one can even examine registry entries; though I admit 
 that this could be better with a little more voiceover support.
 
 what I would like is a program which is useable on my mac or pc and one which 
 will also sync data with my iPhone.
 I want to be able to add entries as well as examine registry entries with my 
 phone.
 What are people using out there?
 
 It's a shame we can't have a version of money talks for the mac and one for 
 the iPhone where data would be synced between devices.
 Is there another checking account program out there other than Clear 
 Checkbook which is accessible and syncs data with the iPhone?
 Has anyone tried contacting Intuit to see if they would make their Mac app 
 more accessible?
 I welcome any feedback and will be contacting Intuit myself about whether 
 they would be willing to make Quicken 13 more accessible than it's previous 
 versions.
 Thanks for any feedback.
 
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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread BBS
Hi JP. I just signed your petition. I also forwarded it to my friend that also 
uses an iPhone. It's like Samsung wants us to all go back to using 3rd party 
screen readers. Well I'm not going back to that. I like my iPhone and I like my 
Mac. So yeah, I hope Samsung reads my comments in the petition.

Shawn
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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind

2013-02-24 Thread Eric Oyen
perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and 
simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would 
solve a number of problems all at once.

-eric

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote:

 In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I
 thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it
 was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is
 about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things
 on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that
 Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for
 accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are
 completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can
 only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it
 exactly what it is.
 
 http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
 
 one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect
 its investment
 in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as
 a tactical
 weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain 
 scenarios.
 For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for
 hearing aids,
 it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related
 patents against
 each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent enforcement 
 in
 cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested
 monetary compensation
 in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying
 to achieve,
 through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more
 realistically) degradation
 of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers.
 In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who
 report on and
 care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I
 completely understand
 why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit
 like this one.
 Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western
 hemisphere.
 In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this
 type of issue
 than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should 
 give
 more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions
 against Apple.
 
 On 2/24/13, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote:
 So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the
 excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the
 fact that it does not even control something that is equal in
 functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it.
 This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have
 an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they
 do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a
 worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by
 the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your
 product sucks!
 
 On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one
 of
 their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after
 problem
 with it.  It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it,
 and
 nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong
 with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it
 crashing, which was upsetting to me.
  So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I
 had
 to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile
 Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I
 unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to
 wait
 anymore.
  So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to
 pretend
 to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote:
 
 I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this.
 Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real
 interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are
 willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This
 childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until
 this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning
 voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything
 wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have
 great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it
 weren't nothing but corruption!
 
 On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I will of course sign.
 
 I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product
 after
 their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am
 angry.
 We
 all ought 

key stroke question

2013-02-24 Thread Kirsten Edmondson
Hi, 
Please can someone advise me what the below key stroke does? I accidentally 
pressed VO plus cmd plus space and a funny noise occurred. What have I done? 
What do I need to do to reverse it? 
Many thanks. 

Kirsten Edmondson
kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com
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Re: Looking for a good checking account program

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi, Sarah. I am not seeing checkbook pro by splasm software in the app store. 

On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Checkbook Pro by Splasm Software is wonderful.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Paul Henrichsen pfhj2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi. I have been looking for a good checking account program for the mac ever 
 since giving up money talks from APH.
 Since then, I have been using clear Checkbook because I can enter 
 transactions and read registry items using either their web site or my 
 iPhone.
 I really like the fact that accounts are synced to my phone; so I can make 
 entries when away from home and my computer.
 
 I have been playing a bit with Quicken 13 over the weekend. What I have 
 found is that their iPhone app will let me enter items into the registries 
 and will give me an end of balance total so I know at all times even when 
 away from my computer how much is in my accounts.
 With a little work, one can even examine registry entries; though I admit 
 that this could be better with a little more voiceover support.
 
 what I would like is a program which is useable on my mac or pc and one 
 which will also sync data with my iPhone.
 I want to be able to add entries as well as examine registry entries with my 
 phone.
 What are people using out there?
 
 It's a shame we can't have a version of money talks for the mac and one for 
 the iPhone where data would be synced between devices.
 Is there another checking account program out there other than Clear 
 Checkbook which is accessible and syncs data with the iPhone?
 Has anyone tried contacting Intuit to see if they would make their Mac app 
 more accessible?
 I welcome any feedback and will be contacting Intuit myself about whether 
 they would be willing to make Quicken 13 more accessible than it's previous 
 versions.
 Thanks for any feedback.
 
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Mac new user

2013-02-24 Thread dr . abdullah6
Hello dear listers I thinking about Mac I need instructions podcasts 

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Re: Mac new user

2013-02-24 Thread Pete Nalda
I Would Subscribe to Podcasts by the Tech Doctor, and Maccessibility to start, 
but other folks may have Ideas.  I know of one Tech Doctor podcast that 
compares Mac with VoiceOver to JFW.  You may get more ideas to refer to on this 
list as well.

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Re: Using facebook on a mac

2013-02-24 Thread Kerri
hi, I cannot search as all I hear is pop up button. When I use my pc, I can 
search for people. places and things without an issue.
On 2013-02-24, at 5:29 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been noticing that a lot myself.  I use the mobile site, and even now 
 have a lot of trouble searching and the like, and even more trouble with the 
 IPhone app.
  I can search for someone using the IPhone app, but when I find someone, it 
 won't tell me if they have any mutual friends, just shows the person's name, 
 then a link to conferm then, which is a huge inconvenience for me, 
 considering the fact that Amanda Smith, is a really comon name, for 
 example, just to throw a name out there.
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:
 
 I use it on my MacBook. It is reasonably usable, though not ideal. I use 
 search a lot to get to where I want to be. I have used Facebook 
 considerably less over the past year; it just isn't a friendly place for 
 screen readers.
 Christine
 
 On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com wrote:
 
 Hey gang,
 Has anyone used the facebook mobile sight on a mac?  aI know that on the PC
 side, the mobile sight was all screwed up.  It looked ormal on internet
 exploer, and was completely screwed up on firefox.  Wondering if anyone ahs
 tried it on a mac yet?
 
 Thanks,
 Jed
 
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Re: key stroke question

2013-02-24 Thread Harry Hogue
Hello,

this toggles the multiple selection of items, such as in a list of documents 
where you want to select multiple items to copy and paste, etc.

VO+K enters into the Keyboard Help mode, which will give you a brief 
description of key commands without actually performing the action.

I hope this helps.

Harry

On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 Please can someone advise me what the below key stroke does? I accidentally 
 pressed VO plus cmd plus space and a funny noise occurred. What have I done? 
 What do I need to do to reverse it? 
 Many thanks. 
 
 Kirsten Edmondson
 kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com
 07867978791
 
 
 
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