Yes that is unfortunate. What I wish they would say to Wall street is
screw all of you. We don't need your money and you can sell out if you
want to. I know there is more to it and it is a public company, but
Apple has enough money not to have to take Wall street's crap.

On 2/24/13, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like this last message best.  To add to the hope, we now have some greedy
> investors demanding a guaranteed 4% return on their investment for sitting
> around and doing nothing! Greedy Wall Street investors demand quick fix
> solutions and responses and short term deliverables which may be
> contributing to some of the recent things being released too quickly and
> possibly with errors that could otherwise have been fixed by delaying
> implementation dates.
>
> Anyway, I'm rambling here but I wanna be sure I'm not apologizing for
> Apple's mistakes but at the same time, I think they still have quality
> products and accessibility is still good and I feel that it has not slipped
> or gone backwards.
>
> On Feb 17, 2013, at 8:51 PM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree that it is in large part perception and what one is telling
>> themselves. It is easy if one is not careful to overstate the problems
>> as to how they shape the entire picture and to overstate how great
>> things were in the past (grass is always greener). It is easy to take
>> the problems and create an entire gloom and doom and paint a picture
>> for yourself of where it is going and to tell yourself how perfect it
>> was in the past. I think Apple has more issues than they should, but I
>> don't really think they have mor issue than they did a few years ago.
>> As is pointed out in the message below, IOS 3.x versions were far from
>> perfect. Were they truly over all such a better over all situation, I
>> don't think so honestly. It is easy to combine the above with what the
>> press is trying to jam down your throat about Apple. There is such a
>> large contingency of them that want Apple dead! I think it is in part
>> because Google gives them what they want and Apple doesn't in terms of
>> data they want about people as well as advertising dollars being a
>> huge part of the picture where they are not in that kind of
>> relationship with Apple. The news media blows up every Apple issue to
>> the point of distortion and almost never mention an issue about any
>> other platform. They fill their articles with statements about how
>> Apple has lost their glory, Apple is no longer relavent and how Nobody
>> uses Apple products any more. Then some how completely out of line
>> with their story, Apple sells millions of Iphones every quarter still.
>>
>> On 2/15/13, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tend to disagree.  I think its just peoples perception, and awareness
>>> changing since Steve Jobs passing.  Basically, IOS is not new anymore,
>>> and
>>> we are less forgiving with mistakes.  And, we now have a convenient
>>> excuse
>>> or, cause for these mistakes, a new person heading Apple.  For example,
>>> do
>>> you guys remember that horrific standby bug in IOS 3.0?  How about
>>> antenna
>>> gate?  Or, iPhone 4 and 4S's being shipped with the glue not dried on
>>> launch
>>> day making peoples display look green?  My point is, mistakes were
>>> happening
>>> before as well.  Same kind of bugs too.  But overall, I still think IOS
>>> has
>>> gotten better, not worse.  Remember what homescreens were like without
>>> folders?  or fullKeyboard support with Voiceover?  Or how about the app
>>> switcher.  lol. and on and on.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Blake Sinnett <frequency...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I would have to agree. Apple has lost some of their magic ever since
>>>> the
>>>> middle of last year. Things just seem to be breaking a little too
>>>> often.
>>>> iCloud, bugs in iOS 6, the maps fiasco... Who knows what'll happen
>>>> next.
>>>> Of course Tim's just taken over, so maybe after a while things'll
>>>> smooth
>>>> out. The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens.
>>>>
>>>> Blake
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: <jshandr...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:42 AM
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: OT: iOS 6 Disappointment!
>>>>
>>>>> OT: iOS 6 disappointment!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone else feeling a little sad about the iOS eco-system since
>>>>> release in October. Don't get me wrong, there will always be issues.
>>>>> However Apple has had so many issues.
>>>>> First, you had the complete redesign of iBooks,  App, iTunes store. In
>>>>> the first release the blind community lost a lot of access, because we
>>>>> didn't even have the ability to see ratings with the new software.
>>>>> Second, you had the App store crashing when you would go into the
>>>>> search
>>>>> area. This happened to everyone, not just our community.
>>>>> thirdly, who can forget the map debacle.
>>>>> You have devices going into recovery mode when you do a reset.
>>>>> The 6. 1 update you now have exchange issue. The extreme 4s battery
>>>>> issue, and now this morning people who use institutional accounts like
>>>>> at
>>>>> schools. Individuals can bypass the no downloading option.
>>>>> I just find this so sad. apple used to pay such close attention to
>>>>> stability, clean UI, and of course accessibility. I still love my
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> products, and hope things change under Jony Ive. Is anyone else
>>>>> feeling
>>>>> slightly let down? This is just a short list, I know you could point
>>>>> out
>>>>> more. I just pointed out a few which never should have happened!
>>>>>
>>>>> J.P.
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