Re: Soundforge for mac.

[Ray Foret Jr]

That is very much at odds with what I've heard about it.  I understood that 
Sound Forge for the Mac is very much acessible.  Kevin, can you jump in on this?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:13 PM, "Juan Pablo"  wrote:

> Dear all,
>  
> Most of us believed that Sony put voice over compatibility in his newest 
> release, sound forge for mac.
>  
> Sadly, after some test, My opinion is that Sony was made a horrible job.
> I could write here about the almost buttons unlaveled, check boxes without  
> any information, scrolls without any extra information speakable by voice 
> over.
> It is impossible make an advanced edition job in this software. I know that 
> provably would be receibe a lot of critics. But using soundforge with the 
> jaws scripts I am able to do more things than in the  mac version.
> I tried to use inside soundforge the Mastering made by izotope, Ozone 5 
> without too much success as well. I do not know if cause soundforge problems 
> or whatever. Possibly yes, because Izotope many moths ago said that all their 
> souftware are voiceover compatible.
>  
>  
> Best,
> Juan.
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

[Maria & Joe Chapman]

Hi.  I have used the insert key on a usb keyboard with vmware with no troubles 
on a mac mini.

hth 
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com

"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 22/04/2013, at 11:20 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I have a USB mac keyboard with the numpad. Is it not possible then to use the 
> insert key present on the numpad as the screen reader modifier key? Or, were 
> your instructions for remapping the grave key intended for use with a 
> bluetooth keyboard without the numpad?
> 
> Second question:
> I have a bootcamp installation of windows7 and would like to use that serial 
> # for the VMWare installation of windows7. I wonder, do you know, how can I 
> de-authorize the bootcamp install, and so make the serial# available for a 
> new install in the VMWare side.
> 
> We're getting closer. I sense a Fusion purchase in my near future if all goes 
> well. I have to assume if everyone is using fusion/windows with such great 
> success, there's no reason I can't as well.
> 
> I admit I don't use the windows installation solely because of the whole 
> reboot requirement.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion
> 
> 
> Hi Yolanda and Phil,
> 
> Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
> 
> 1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
> menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
> you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, 
> and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: 
> windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo 
> down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. 
> Easy, isn't it?
> 
> 2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
> fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that 
> the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and 
> the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead 
> functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to 
> the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you 
> want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows 
> key, and the windows key does alt.
> 
> To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
> fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
> preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
> screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
> the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
> mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.
> 
> Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
> to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
> listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
> For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows 
> logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion 
> also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, 
> but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, 
> clear out all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want 
> yourself.
> 
> Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
> button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
> the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
> definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.
> 
> Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
> The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, 
> field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from 
> section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, 
> leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this 
> command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check 
> it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, 
> defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the 
> from section, and make that key do alt, in the to section.
> 
> Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
> words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
> second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
> windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add 
> again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
> definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. 

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Maria & Joe Chapman]

HI.  when I review an app, I try to mention it's status regarding 
accessibility.  I think if we mention it in reviews then possibly this might 
help to give a new buyer an idea.

I have been hesitant to buy mac apps because usually I have no idea whether or 
not they are accessible.  If I can find a free version or trial version that is 
a good thing.  but I digress.

 
Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
twitter: bubbygirl 
skype: bubbygirl1972

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On 22/04/2013, at 11:46 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> Each country has different consumer laws where your rights are protected. 
> Since Apple has a centre in a lot of countries. The laws for that country 
> apply. In the example of a $150.00 app isn't accessible or meets the users 
> needs. In Australia you have grounds to get a refund. In fact, I believe 
> there is an link on the Apple web site to permit you to get this refund. I 
> believe the UK has similar laws to Australia. 
> 
> I do not know if the USA has these consumer laws, in protecting your rights.
> 
> 
> 
> In relation to rating apps or even having a method of tagging if it is 
> accessible. If it is left up to the end-user. Then software houses can game 
> the ranking. This has occurred on any platform where you can rank the 
> application. So it isn't a Apple specific issue I  am referring to here. 
> Example:
> 
> I create an app that claims to be accessible. Then I spend a day ranking it 
> high with the accessibility ranking flag. Result, you cannot trust the 
> ranking system completely.
> 
> 
> Since Apple provides the libraries to be used by developers. Then I am sure 
> it would be possible to have a script that detects the usage of the libraries 
> for Voice-Over. Then a flag could be raised indicating there is possible 
> accessibility in this app. The only true way to test an app is by a person.
> 
> Sean 
> On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
>> I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
>> polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
>> me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
>> use Apple products again.
>> 
>> I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
>> Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
>> with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
>> hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
>> promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
>> around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
>> bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
>> in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
>> the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
>> product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
>> with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
>> problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
>> research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
>> everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
>> dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
>> problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
>> seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
>> canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
>> me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
>> corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
>> unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
>> words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
>> when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!
>> 
>> Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
>> say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
>> behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
>> refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
>> 
>> Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
>> service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
>> 
>> Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
>> not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
>> wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
>> well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
>> form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
>> on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
>> bl'l'li

Re: Apple Submenu

[Chris Gilland]

OK, let's try something.

This is probably gonna sound dumb, I know, but let's see if it even is the 
trackpad in the first place, or maybe corrupted kext drivers somewhere.


First of all, try unplugging the track pad, then see if it persists.

If it does, then try going to system preferences, and create another user 
account, login as that new user, then see if it continues.  This will help 
us pinpoint down if it's an issue with your user profile, or if it is OS 
wide  specific.  I know this is a step that 99% of the time is ignored and 
not thought of taking seriously, but trust me, you'd be surprised how often 
or not the problem is within the user account itself.  If this wind up being 
the case, let us know, and I can then walk you through... at your own 
risk... enabling the root user, and migrating your old user settings and 
account over to the new user, then redisabling the root account when 
done/deleting the old corrupted account.  It's a kind of risky process, and 
that's why I don't want to tell you how to do it just quite yet, unless it's 
absolutely 100 percent our last avenue to take when all else fails.


Another thing also you could try doing is booting to the mountain lion 
recovery partition, then go to the disk utility manager, and run a verify 
followed by a permissions repair on the volume in question.  I know, you're 
probably thinking, how could that fix a Voiceover issue like this.  oh 
huhho, trust me!  You'd be surprised!


Anyway, try those things, and let us know what happens, then we'll go from 
there accordingly.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kerri" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


I thought so too but I even turned my track pad off and it still occurs.
On 2013-04-21, at 2:20 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:


That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.

Chris.
- Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?


Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  
wrote:


I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
"Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: Apple Submenu

[Chris Gilland]

Then, I'm totally baffled.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Holmes" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


I just looked over at my magic trackpad and flicked around a bit to be sure 
it wasn't pressed down or stuck or something. All is fine there but I still 
hear "Apple submenu" if I go into rename a file and hit space and/or arrow 
around without interacting first. I think I will give Apple a call tomorrow 
and see if anyone there can give me some ideas. Probably have to check with 
the a11y folks as this has no meaning if VO is turned off and not being 
used.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:20 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:


That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.

Chris.
- Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?


Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  
wrote:


I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
"Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: alfred

[Chris Gilland]

What even is! Alfred?

Chris.

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  Subject: alfred


  Hi list does anybody know if Alfred is accessable with vo and is it very 
handy to have thanks in advance 


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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Steve,

You can sync books in IBooks through ITunes.

HtH,
Teresa
On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I may have come late to this little party, but what is in common with epub 
> and iTunes? Are these books somehow readable in iTunes? I don't quite 
> understand the naming or meta data being changed in iTunes for an epub book.
> 
> What am I missing:)?
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Annie,
>> 
>> Not sure, but I think what I did was first interact with the text field and 
>> then do VO-Shift-Space to click, and then I could delete the text in the 
>> File Renamer text box dialog window.  I don't think that I tried routing my 
>> mouse cursor there first, since I was able to do the click after interacting.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On 21 Apr 2013, at 07:16, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther.
>>> 
>>> I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
>>> press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could 
>>> press vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could 
>>> delete the content of the field and write something else.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Cheers Annie.
>>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
 File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
 you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
 AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default 
 value.  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in 
 the text box so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, 
 you may think that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, 
 and then I could delete the default string:
 [artist] - [name]
 Remember that each of the arguments like "artist" and "name" is surrounded 
 by brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
 examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields 
 are used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to "Get Info", and 
 examine the "Info" tab. My O'Reilly books use "name", "artist", and 
 "album", where "name" and "album", give the title of the book, and 
 "artist" gives the author.  My iPhone user guides from iBooks only use 
 "name" and "artist".  Do not try to type in a field like "[author]", 
 because that's not a tag that iTunes uses.  If, for example, you wanted to 
 use the author, you would delete references to "[name]" and have the text 
 argument only contain a string like:
 [artist]
 I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
 title. If the title information is under the "comments" field, and you 
 wanted to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type 
 in:
 [comments]
 Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be 
 a valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for 
 you ePub books.  Maybe the "description" field is used for title 
 information. You can activate it in the "View" menu options by bringing up 
 the window with Command-J and checking the box for "description". None of 
 my ePub books use this field, and you won't find it on the "Info" tab, but 
 you can set your library to display this.
 
 HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is 
 that you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  
 They're buried under the Package contents of the script under Resources > 
 Scripts > main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about 
 AppleScript coding. This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing 
 AppleScripts, and I found out that this was a contributed AppleScript from 
 someone else that he re-wrote.
 
 By the way, I thought that the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript might also 
 rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
 folder and file names then match the tags.   
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
 
> Hi Esther.
> 
> I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
> should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately 
> the field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically 
> uses the author and the title.
> 
> It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
> think I will need to make a donation.
> 
> Cheers Annie.
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Annie, 
>> 
>> If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
>> some of t

Re: Apple Submenu

[Kerri]

I thought so too but I even turned my track pad off and it still occurs.
On 2013-04-21, at 2:20 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple Submenu
> 
> 
> Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
> trackpad?
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
>> On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
>>> "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
>>> characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
>>> then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
>>> cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
>>> control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
>>> cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this 
>>> in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
>>> would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
>>> has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
>>> "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any ideas or help.
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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

[Steve Holmes]

I may have come late to this little party, but what is in common with epub and 
iTunes? Are these books somehow readable in iTunes? I don't quite understand 
the naming or meta data being changed in iTunes for an epub book.

What am I missing:)?

On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Annie,
> 
> Not sure, but I think what I did was first interact with the text field and 
> then do VO-Shift-Space to click, and then I could delete the text in the File 
> Renamer text box dialog window.  I don't think that I tried routing my mouse 
> cursor there first, since I was able to do the click after interacting.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 21 Apr 2013, at 07:16, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther.
>> 
>> I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
>> press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could 
>> press vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could 
>> delete the content of the field and write something else.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Cheers Annie.
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Annie,
>>> 
>>> I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
>>> File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
>>> you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
>>> AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default 
>>> value.  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the 
>>> text box so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you 
>>> may think that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and 
>>> then I could delete the default string:
>>> [artist] - [name]
>>> Remember that each of the arguments like "artist" and "name" is surrounded 
>>> by brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
>>> examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are 
>>> used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to "Get Info", and examine 
>>> the "Info" tab. My O'Reilly books use "name", "artist", and "album", where 
>>> "name" and "album", give the title of the book, and "artist" gives the 
>>> author.  My iPhone user guides from iBooks only use "name" and "artist".  
>>> Do not try to type in a field like "[author]", because that's not a tag 
>>> that iTunes uses.  If, for example, you wanted to use the author, you would 
>>> delete references to "[name]" and have the text argument only contain a 
>>> string like:
>>> [artist]
>>> I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
>>> title. If the title information is under the "comments" field, and you 
>>> wanted to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type 
>>> in:
>>> [comments]
>>> Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be 
>>> a valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you 
>>> ePub books.  Maybe the "description" field is used for title information. 
>>> You can activate it in the "View" menu options by bringing up the window 
>>> with Command-J and checking the box for "description". None of my ePub 
>>> books use this field, and you won't find it on the "Info" tab, but you can 
>>> set your library to display this.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is 
>>> that you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're 
>>> buried under the Package contents of the script under Resources > Scripts > 
>>> main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. 
>>> This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out 
>>> that this was a contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.
>>> 
>>> By the way, I thought that the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript might also 
>>> rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
>>> folder and file names then match the tags.   
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Esther.
 
 I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
 should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately 
 the field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically 
 uses the author and the title.
 
 It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
 think I will need to make a donation.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther  wrote:
 
> Hi Annie, 
> 
> If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
> some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
> changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
> epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is 
> just "name

Re: Apple Submenu

[Steve Holmes]

I just looked over at my magic trackpad and flicked around a bit to be sure it 
wasn't pressed down or stuck or something. All is fine there but I still hear 
"Apple submenu" if I go into rename a file and hit space and/or arrow around 
without interacting first. I think I will give Apple a call tomorrow and see if 
anyone there can give me some ideas. Probably have to check with the a11y folks 
as this has no meaning if VO is turned off and not being used.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:20 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple Submenu
> 
> 
> Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
> trackpad?
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
>> On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
>>> "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
>>> characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
>>> then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
>>> cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
>>> control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
>>> cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this 
>>> in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
>>> would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
>>> has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
>>> "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any ideas or help.
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Soundforge for mac.

[Juan Pablo]

Dear all,

Most of us believed that Sony put voice over compatibility in his newest 
release, sound forge for mac.

Sadly, after some test, My opinion is that Sony was made a horrible job.
I could write here about the almost buttons unlaveled, check boxes without any 
information, scrolls without any extra information speakable by voice over.
It is impossible make an advanced edition job in this software. I know that 
provably would be receibe a lot of critics. But using soundforge with the jaws 
scripts I am able to do more things than in the  mac version.
I tried to use inside soundforge the Mastering made by izotope, Ozone 5 without 
too much success as well. I do not know if cause soundforge problems or 
whatever. Possibly yes, because Izotope many moths ago said that all their 
souftware are voiceover compatible.


Best,
Juan.

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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

[John Panarese]

It should be further down the list.  Make sure you definitely have the 
login item chose from the keychain column and then passwords from the category 
list, which is the second one down.  YOur Apple ID should just say, Apple ID.  
I just tested this on two machines here.


Take Care

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On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Thanks John. Unfortunately, it looks like this method won't work for me. The 
> only thing I seem to have is "apple ID authentication", which shows password 
> values of something like a hundred characters, which is definitely not what I 
> typed in. Something is screwy on my machine. Not surprising. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:40 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>  You want the actual Apple ID only.  
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, John,
>>> 
>>> Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords 
>>> in the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
>>> com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and 
>>> both display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password 
>>> field.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
 You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
 passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, 
 choose the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a 
 checkbox to show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've 
 used this trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran  
 wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When 
> I go to what appears to be the "login" and press "show password", there 
> is what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
> 
> Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks John. Unfortunately, it looks like this method won't work for me. The 
only thing I seem to have is "apple ID authentication", which shows password 
values of something like a hundred characters, which is definitely not what I 
typed in. Something is screwy on my machine. Not surprising. :)

Thanks,
Teresa
On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:40 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>   You want the actual Apple ID only.  
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, John,
>> 
>> Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords in 
>> the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
>> com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and 
>> both display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password 
>> field.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>>  You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
>>> passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
>>> the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
>>> show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this 
>>> trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I 
 go to what appears to be the "login" and press "show password", there is 
 what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
 
 Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: alfred

[Esther]

Hi Wayne,

The answer to your question is that at present Alfred has some accessibility 
issues with VoiceOver.  Scott Howell, who hasn't been on this list for a while 
due to his current workload, wrote me a few weeks ago that he was actively 
working with the developers to address these issues.  He thought that even as 
of today, this was a nice app, that was pretty useful.  The basic app is free, 
and then you can purchase the PowerPack, which he thought was worth the money.  
I haven't used this app myself, though I've read about it.  Scott was pretty 
upbeat that the developers were willing to work with him and improve the app 
once they were aware of where the problems lay.

HTH.  Maybe somebody else who has used the app can give you more direct 
information. Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 15:37, wayne17a wrote:

> Hi list does anybody know if Alfred is accessable with vo and is it very 
> handy to have thanks in advance
> 
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RE: flack conversion?

[Kliphton]

Isn't that app like 60 bucks?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron
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Subject: Re: flack conversion?

If you already have Amadeus Pro then you can convert easily using that
program.  It gives you many conversion options.  this is a paid app. 

I find it very VO friendly.


 Eric Caron 
On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:26 PM, -  wrote:

> 
> Either sox or xld can do this conversion.  A google will get you either
using os10 and the name.
> 
> The former is terminal only, the latter gui or terminal.  Both are free
and have multiple audio functions and features in addition to format
conversion.
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Re: flack conversion?

[Eric Caron]

If you already have Amadeus Pro then you can convert easily using that program. 
 It gives you many conversion options.  this is a paid app. 

I find it very VO friendly.


 Eric Caron 
On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:26 PM, -  wrote:

> 
> Either sox or xld can do this conversion.  A google will get you either using 
> os10 and the name.
> 
> The former is terminal only, the latter gui or terminal.  Both are free and 
> have multiple audio functions and features in addition to format conversion.
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Sean Murphy]

Hi,


Each country has different consumer laws where your rights are protected. Since 
Apple has a centre in a lot of countries. The laws for that country apply. In 
the example of a $150.00 app isn't accessible or meets the users needs. In 
Australia you have grounds to get a refund. In fact, I believe there is an link 
on the Apple web site to permit you to get this refund. I believe the UK has 
similar laws to Australia. 

I do not know if the USA has these consumer laws, in protecting your rights.



In relation to rating apps or even having a method of tagging if it is 
accessible. If it is left up to the end-user. Then software houses can game the 
ranking. This has occurred on any platform where you can rank the application. 
So it isn't a Apple specific issue I  am referring to here. Example:

I create an app that claims to be accessible. Then I spend a day ranking it 
high with the accessibility ranking flag. Result, you cannot trust the ranking 
system completely.


Since Apple provides the libraries to be used by developers. Then I am sure it 
would be possible to have a script that detects the usage of the libraries for 
Voice-Over. Then a flag could be raised indicating there is possible 
accessibility in this app. The only true way to test an app is by a person.

Sean 
On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund polacy... 
> allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to me.  It was 
> enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever use Apple 
> products again.
> 
> I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
> Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
> with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
> hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
> promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
> around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the bullet 
> and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible in the 
> least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, 
> he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the product 
> but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with 
> Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem 
> that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your research more 
> thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my 
> power to test the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally 
> uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to get 
> over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable 
> of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I 
> finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if it 
> was music in the ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom line 
> was, accessibility not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund blind 
> people.  That was literally their exact words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? 
> refund, blind people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe 
> my ears!
> 
> Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
> say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
> behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
> refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
> 
> Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
> service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
> 
> Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
> not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
> wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
> well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
> form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
> on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
> bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
> 
> 
> I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
> times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to 
> use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
> mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
> there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
> information for the time being.
> 
> I tend to agree with the previous poster expressi

Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

[John Panarese]

   You want the actual Apple ID only.  

Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Apr 21, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, John,
> 
> Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords in 
> the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
> com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and 
> both display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password 
> field.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>   You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
>> passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
>> the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
>> show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this 
>> trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I 
>>> go to what appears to be the "login" and press "show password", there is 
>>> what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
>>> 
>>> Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
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alfred

[wayne17a]

Hi list does anybody know if Alfred is accessable with vo and is it very
handy to have thanks in advance 

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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, John,

Thanks. That's just it: I choose login in the first table, then passwords in 
the second. Maybe I don't have the right item. I try Apple ID and 
com.apple.assistant, do a command-i, put in my user account password, and both 
display something that looks like hexidecimal values in the password field.

Thanks,
Teresa
On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:07 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
> passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
> the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
> show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this 
> trick a few times to find passwords to networks and such.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I 
>> go to what appears to be the "login" and press "show password", there is 
>> what looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
>> 
>> Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
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Re: silver dollar app question.

[Alex Hall]

You get points for each plate you shoot, more points for being closer to the 
plate's center. It's a mostly mindless audio game, but it runs on the mac, 
which is great. As I said, I enjoy it enough, but I mostly bought it to support 
the developers so that, hopefully, more complex audio games can make their way 
to the mac. As for a podcast, I don't know; try google or applevis.com to see 
if someone made one. The app description does a good job explaining what the 
game has, though, and as to performance, my Mini runs it perfectly with no 
trouble at all.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> Is there a scoring system with that game?  Just curious.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
>> the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it 
>> is well worth the two dollars.
>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
>>> that was free, but when I clicked the "download app," option, it did 
>>> nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I 
>>> found strange.  Does anyone know anything about this?
>>> I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
>>> nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
>>> before I purchased the Mac version.
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>> Have a great day,
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

[Phil Halton]

I have a USB mac keyboard with the numpad. Is it not possible then to use 
the insert key present on the numpad as the screen reader modifier key? Or, 
were your instructions for remapping the grave key intended for use with a 
bluetooth keyboard without the numpad?


Second question:
I have a bootcamp installation of windows7 and would like to use that serial 
# for the VMWare installation of windows7. I wonder, do you know, how can I 
de-authorize the bootcamp install, and so make the serial# available for a 
new install in the VMWare side.


We're getting closer. I sense a Fusion purchase in my near future if all 
goes well. I have to assume if everyone is using fusion/windows with such 
great success, there's no reason I can't as well.


I admit I don't use the windows installation solely because of the whole 
reboot requirement.




- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Erkens" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion


Hi Yolanda and Phil,

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, 
and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: 
windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo 
down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. 
Easy, isn't it?


2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that 
the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and 
the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, 
instead functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you 
are used to the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is 
not what you want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt 
is windows key, and the windows key does alt.


To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.


Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have 
a listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is 
pressed. For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the 
windows logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further 
more, fusion also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, 
which is copy, but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in 
windows, do you? So, clear out all definitions in this listbox and start 
over with what you want yourself.


Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.


Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, 
field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the 
from section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the 
rest, leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to check 
this command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, 
check it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one next to 
spacebar, defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check command 
key in the from section, and make that key do alt, in the to section.


Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In 
other words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, 
the second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add 
again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds 
the windows logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.


Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens 
by default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely 
land in finder, the app

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Chris Gilland]

Wait a minute John...

Called? Apple ITunes support?  I didn't think you could do that from what 
everyone tells me at Apple.  You either have to e-mail them, or open a live 
chat session on


support.apple.com/itunes

What am I missing?  What is their number?  Apparently Apple Support told me 
they're not the same as Itunes Store support.
- Original Message - 
From: "John Panarese" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


  Yes, it comes down to the person you are speaking to.  I have never had 
any issues with refunds.  However, a friend of mine recently dealt with the 
proverbial "bad apple" customer service person when calling up iTunes 
support for some charged items.  I suggested that she call back later to 
deal with a different person.  She did, and she had no problems with the 
second person.



Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude 
what so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your 
talking to and what kind of day their having.


I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy 
wouldn't be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do 
right by me and my family and friends.


Danny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
use Apple products again.


I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work 
with Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special 
arrangements with him for a serial number which he could activate for me 
for 8 to 12 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it 
worked, with the promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he 
refused.  This app was around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very 
least.  I finally bit the bullet and bought the app on the app store. 
Not only was it not accessible in the least, thus proving the dev's 
assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, he never replied back to 
me, and never cared that I had bought the product but was having an 
issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with Apple.  They gave 
me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem that you bought 
an inaccessible app, you should have done your research more thoroughly, 
blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my power 
to test the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally 
uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to 
get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be 
capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded 
appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me 
flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost 
puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!


Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll 
just say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them 
on my behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not 
only a refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back 
to me.


Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad 
customer service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, 
case closed.


Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be 
made, not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't 
get me wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app 
store, as well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to 
submit some form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm 
over-reacting, but come on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you 
don't refund quote: bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, 
you know what...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Chris Gilland]

Danny,

99 percent with a bar over it, of the time, I've been able to second your 
comments.  I hardly ever have had bad experiences, however, this put me over 
the top.  Here's hoping it doesn't happen again, as that was $150 that I 
almost had to eat.  Thank god for the help I received from the NFB.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Danny Noonan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude 
what so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your 
talking to and what kind of day their having.


I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't 
be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me 
and my family and friends.


Danny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
use Apple products again.


I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special 
arrangements with him for a serial number which he could activate for me 
for 8 to 12 hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it 
worked, with the promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he 
refused.  This app was around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least. 
I finally bit the bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only 
was it not accessible in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption 
incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, he never replied back to me, and 
never cared that I had bought the product but was having an issue. 
suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with Apple.  They gave me the 
whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem that you bought an 
inaccessible app, you should have done your research more thoroughly, blah 
blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my power to test 
the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally uncooperative. 
They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to get over it 
young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable of 
saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I 
finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if 
it was music in the ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom 
line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund 
blind people.  That was literally their exact words, I swear, to, god! 
We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I 
couldn't believe my ears!


Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll 
just say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on 
my behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not 
only a refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back 
to me.


Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad 
customer service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case 
closed.


Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be 
made, not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't 
get me wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app 
store, as well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to 
submit some form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm 
over-reacting, but come on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you 
don't refund quote: bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, 
you know what...


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it 
impossible to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if 
there is any mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always 
be something there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for 
a11y information for the time being.


I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
accessible than it really might be.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "J.P."  wrote:

That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact 
you have

bizare itunes problem please help!

[trahern culver]

hey all i'm running the latest version of iTunes my media libury is on
an exturnle hd the problem is this, when i tipe in the such  box voice
over just sais bizzie and iTunes crashes it doesn't close but i have
to force quit it because it stops working conpleatly any one know what
the problem is? kind regards trahern.

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RE: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

[Kliphton]

As long as you have the pro version.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:05 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was
Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

 

Does VMWare fusion work with Windows 8 as of yet?

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Esther   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:52 PM

Subject: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re:
The insert key in VMware fusion]

 

Hi Brandt,  

 

I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key
for modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use
KeyRemap4MacBook and the PCKeyboardHack from:

http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/

and

http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en

 

The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to
act as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of
2007 and the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was
released, Apple modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight
delay before its activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and
MacBook Pros did not have this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the
delay built in. This Apple Knowledge Base article gives details:

• Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192

 

Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in
VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current
thread, "Re: Help with VMWare Fusion".  The extra time delay that is
introduced is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately
introduced, I believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for
mobility disabled Mac users. This is only conjecture on my part based on
having read some descriptions of accessibility standards for users with
severe mobility impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to
use mouth sticks to navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps
Lock for some sequences.

 

If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an
insert key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has
a podcast and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up
the Caps Lock key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop,
and to act as the JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.
You cannot, however, get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you
have found, or by using the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.
In fact, if you use KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp
Keys or the VMware preferences remapping, because you will already have
introduced multiple remappings for your keys. 

 

Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:

• New & Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the
VoiceOver Experience:

http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e

I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but
it's:

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-mac
s-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

 

There is also a user guide at:

• Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver
Experience

http://bit.ly/Q6eTye

 

However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and
references to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original
podcast.  It describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the
PCKeyboardHack, while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for
the Caps Lock key.  The developer responded by introducing a custom setting
for "Blind Voice Over" in the application that would take care of this.  In
addition, the most recent major update versions have incorporated this into
app, so that it is no longer necessary to get the special version of the app
to install that is referenced in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so,
you'll be taken back to the main KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change
with the major update is that, instead of making the customization changes
in preference panes for "KeyRemap4MacBook" and "PCKeyboardHack" under your
System Preferences, you now work directly in these apps, instead.  

 

The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides
more general information

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Karen Lewellen]

I agree that this was a dreadful experience.  all the more reason to put 
an accessible criteria, and make it worth their while positively to have 
their  apps on the list.
better to make it clear before any money changes hands that the app makes 
the grade.  Equally if someone sought a refund even if the app qualified 
the company writing the app would have some protection as well.

Karen

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Danny Noonan wrote:


I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an issue. 
Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app purchases and 
when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my situation was given an 
instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what so ever. It must be like 
in many other situations all about who your talking to and what kind of day 
their having.

I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't be 
a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and my 
family and friends.

Danny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:


I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund polacy... 
allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to me.  It was 
enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever use Apple 
products again.

I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 hours, 
just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the promise that 
I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was around $150.  
So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the bullet and bought the 
app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible in the least, thus 
proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, he never 
replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the product but was 
having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with Apple.  They 
gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem that you bought an 
inaccessible app, you should have done your research more thoroughly, blah 
blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my power to test the 
accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally uncooperative.  They still 
maintained that it's not their problem, and to get over it young.  When I 
explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  
that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I finally requested a 
refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if it was music in the 
ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility 
not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was 
literally their exact words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind 
people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!

Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just say 
he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my behalf, 
and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a refund, but 
I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.

Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.

Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me wrong, 
but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as well as the 
mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some form of a trial 
version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come on!  $150 later and 
now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, 
but, that's  a crocka, you know what...

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to use 
with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any mention of 
a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something there but worth a 
look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y information for the time being.

I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who have 
no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less accessible 
than it really might be.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "J.P."  wrote:


That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact you 
have different levels of users. Th

Re: Time Capsule

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Have you tried to restart the Time Capsule?  Often when this sort of thing is 
happening, it can be remedied by restarting the TC itself.  This can be done 
from within Airport Utility or by doing a hard reset by unplugging it, wait 
about 30 seconds to a minute, then plug it back in.

Just a note though regarding repairing permissions and/or repairing the disk.  
Repairing Permissions is only available on disks that have the actual MacOS 
installed, thus it is not possible to repair the permissions on the backup 
disk.  For the Repair Disk option, this can only be done to a drive that is 
physically connected to your machine, it cannot be performed on a shared disk 
which is what your TC backup disk is.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-21, at 3:48 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> My Time machine backups are no longer happening and I have looked into the 
> problem.  It seems that the disk needs to be repaired.  Unfortunately, the 
> disk is not showing up in my Disk Utility.  Any thoughts on how I can get it 
> to show up, or any other way to repair it?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: Transmit, or cute FTP which is better?

[Jeffry Miller]

Yes, I tried it out, but I don't have it now. I'm also using transmit.

Jeffry Miller

On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I wasn't aware of a Mac version of CuteFTP. I never liked the one for 
> windows. I use Transmit on the Mac and love it. Dunno about Cute on the Mac.
> 
> On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jeffry Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I was just wondering, which is better to use, transmit, or cute FTP? I 
>> am trying both of them, but can't seem to find how to get the list of sites 
>> in the cute FTP one. Are there any tutorials or anything on Cute FTP
>> 
>> Jeffry miller
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Re: iPhone Manual Question

[Shen]

Hi there.
The Item Chooser is two-finger triple tap.
I work for the San Francisco LightHouse and am sorry to inform you, Apple did 
not request iOS6 to be transcribed in Braille. Not sure why, but guessing that 
perhaps iOS 5 is similar enough to 6.


On Apr 16, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I just downloaded the iPhone User Guide which is for iOS 5. I got it in brf 
> format which was transcribed by the San Francisco Lighthouse. Does anyone 
> know if there is the same thing out yet for iOS 6? I was looking for the 
> gesture for calling up the item chooser. I guess that's an iOS 6 thing 
> because I couldn't find it in the iOS 5 book. I know how to call up the item 
> chooser with a keyboard. I accidentally called it up this morning with a 
> gesture, but I have no idea how I did it since that's not what I was doing at 
> the time. What is the gesture for calling up the item chooser on the iPhone? 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[John Panarese]

   Yes, it comes down to the person you are speaking to.  I have never had any 
issues with refunds.  However, a friend of mine recently dealt with the 
proverbial "bad apple" customer service person when calling up iTunes support 
for some charged items.  I suggested that she call back later to deal with a 
different person.  She did, and she had no problems with the second person.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
> issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
> purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
> situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what 
> so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your talking 
> to and what kind of day their having. 
> 
> I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't 
> be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and 
> my family and friends. 
> 
> Danny. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
>> I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
>> polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
>> me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
>> use Apple products again.
>> 
>> I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
>> Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
>> with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
>> hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
>> promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
>> around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
>> bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
>> in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
>> the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
>> product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
>> with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
>> problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
>> research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
>> everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
>> dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
>> problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
>> seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
>> canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
>> me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
>> corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
>> unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
>> words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
>> when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!
>> 
>> Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
>> say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
>> behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
>> refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
>> 
>> Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
>> service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
>> 
>> Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
>> not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
>> wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
>> well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
>> form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
>> on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
>> bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
>> 
>> 
>> I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
>> many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible 
>> to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
>> mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
>> there but wo

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Danny Noonan]

I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an issue. 
Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app purchases and 
when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my situation was given an 
instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what so ever. It must be like 
in many other situations all about who your talking to and what kind of day 
their having. 

I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't be 
a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and my 
family and friends. 

Danny. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund polacy... 
> allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to me.  It was 
> enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever use Apple 
> products again.
> 
> I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
> Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
> with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
> hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
> promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
> around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the bullet 
> and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible in the 
> least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote the dev, 
> he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the product 
> but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up with 
> Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our problem 
> that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your research more 
> thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did everything! within my 
> power to test the accessibility before buying, but the dev was totally 
> uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their problem, and to get 
> over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they seemed to be capable 
> of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their canded appologies.  I 
> finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told me flat out, even if it 
> was music in the ITunes music store that had been corrupted, the bottom line 
> was, accessibility not withstanding, quote unquote:  we don't refund blind 
> people.  That was literally their exact words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? 
> refund, blind people!  I almost puked when hearing this!  I couldn't believe 
> my ears!
> 
> Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
> say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
> behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
> refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
> 
> Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
> service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
> 
> Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
> not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
> wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
> well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
> form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
> on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
> bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Holmes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
> 
> 
> I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
> times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to 
> use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
> mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
> there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
> information for the time being.
> 
> I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
> accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
> have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
> accessible than it really might be.
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "J.P."  wrote:
> 
>> That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact you 
>> have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. 
>> Especially when it comes to paid apps.
>> 
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Re: Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

[John Panarese]

You want to choose the login items from the first category and then 
passwords from the second.  When you have the correct item selected, choose 
the, Get Info button.  In the window that will open, there is a checkbox to 
show the password.  You will have to authenticate first.  I've used this trick 
a few times to find passwords to networks and such.


Take Care

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On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I go 
> to what appears to be the "login" and press "show password", there is what 
> looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.
> 
> Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
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Are Passwords Shown in Keychains?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi all,

I was hoping to find my Apple ID password through the Keychain app. When I go 
to what appears to be the "login" and press "show password", there is what 
looks like a hexidecimal number there instead.

Am I lost? I had just reset it, and was hoping not to have to do it again.

Thanks,
Teresa

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Chris Gilland]

I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
use Apple products again.


I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!


Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.


Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.


Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Holmes" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!


I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible 
to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
information for the time being.


I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
accessible than it really might be.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "J.P."  wrote:

That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact 
you have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. 
Especially when it comes to paid apps.


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Re: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

[Matthew Campbell]

Hi.
It does indeed. Rather well in fact.
HTH,
Matthew Campbell.
On 2013-04-21, at 7:04 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> Does VMWare fusion work with Windows 8 as of yet?
>  
> Chris.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:52 PM
> Subject: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: 
> The insert key in VMware fusion]
> 
> Hi Brandt, 
> 
> I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key for 
> modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use KeyRemap4MacBook 
> and the PCKeyboardHack from:
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
> and
> http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
>  
> The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to 
> act as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of 
> 2007 and the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was 
> released, Apple modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight 
> delay before its activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and 
> MacBook Pros did not have this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the 
> delay built in. This Apple Knowledge Base article gives details:
> • Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192
> 
> Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in 
> VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current 
> thread, "Re: Help with VMWare Fusion".  The extra time delay that is 
> introduced is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately 
> introduced, I believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for 
> mobility disabled Mac users. This is only conjecture on my part based on 
> having read some descriptions of accessibility standards for users with 
> severe mobility impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to 
> use mouth sticks to navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps 
> Lock for some sequences.
> 
> If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an insert 
> key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has a 
> podcast and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up the 
> Caps Lock key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop, and 
> to act as the JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.  You 
> cannot, however, get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you have 
> found, or by using the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.  In 
> fact, if you use KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp Keys 
> or the VMware preferences remapping, because you will already have introduced 
> multiple remappings for your keys. 
> 
> Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:
> • New & Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the 
> VoiceOver Experience:
> http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e
> I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but it's:
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience
> 
> There is also a user guide at:
> • Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver 
> Experience
> http://bit.ly/Q6eTye
> 
> However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and 
> references to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original 
> podcast.  It describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the 
> PCKeyboardHack, while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for the 
> Caps Lock key.  The developer responded by introducing a custom setting for 
> "Blind Voice Over" in the application that would take care of this.  In 
> addition, the most recent major update versions have incorporated this into 
> app, so that it is no longer necessary to get the special version of the app 
> to install that is referenced in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so, 
> you'll be taken back to the main KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change 
> with the major update is that, instead of making the customization changes in 
> preference panes for "KeyRemap4MacBook" and "PCKeyboardHack" under your 
> System Preferences, you now work directly in these apps, instead.  
> 
> The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides 
> more general information about working and configuring KeyRemap4MacBook.  
> Most of this was discussed on that list.
> 
> I'd simply conclude by saying that you do need to keep your key remapping 
> actions straight, and that I suspect people who posted that the Insert key 
> behavior didn't work for them had prior conflicting key remapping definitions 
> set up with either Sharp Keys or their Fusion preferences.  Paul Erken's post 
> about also turning off key definitions for the F-keys for Exposé, etc. is 
> also good advi

Re: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

[Chris Gilland]

Does VMWare fusion work with Windows 8 as of yet?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:52 PM
  Subject: Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: 
The insert key in VMware fusion]


  Hi Brandt, 


  I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key for 
modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use KeyRemap4MacBook and 
the PCKeyboardHack from:
  http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
  and
  http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en

  The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to 
act as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of 2007 
and the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was released, 
Apple modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight delay before 
its activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and MacBook Pros did not 
have this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the delay built in. This Apple 
Knowledge Base article gives details:
  • Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192


  Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in 
VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current 
thread, "Re: Help with VMWare Fusion".  The extra time delay that is introduced 
is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately introduced, I 
believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for mobility disabled Mac 
users. This is only conjecture on my part based on having read some 
descriptions of accessibility standards for users with severe mobility 
impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to use mouth sticks to 
navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps Lock for some 
sequences.


  If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an insert 
key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has a podcast 
and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up the Caps Lock 
key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop, and to act as the 
JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.  You cannot, however, 
get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you have found, or by using 
the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.  In fact, if you use 
KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp Keys or the VMware 
preferences remapping, because you will already have introduced multiple 
remappings for your keys. 


  Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:
  • New & Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the 
VoiceOver Experience:
  http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e
  I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but it's:
  
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience


  There is also a user guide at:
  • Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver 
Experience
  http://bit.ly/Q6eTye


  However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and 
references to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original podcast. 
 It describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the 
PCKeyboardHack, while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for the 
Caps Lock key.  The developer responded by introducing a custom setting for 
"Blind Voice Over" in the application that would take care of this.  In 
addition, the most recent major update versions have incorporated this into 
app, so that it is no longer necessary to get the special version of the app to 
install that is referenced in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so, 
you'll be taken back to the main KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change 
with the major update is that, instead of making the customization changes in 
preference panes for "KeyRemap4MacBook" and "PCKeyboardHack" under your System 
Preferences, you now work directly in these apps, instead.  


  The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides 
more general information about working and configuring KeyRemap4MacBook.  Most 
of this was discussed on that list.


  I'd simply conclude by saying that you do need to keep your key remapping 
actions straight, and that I suspect people who posted that the Insert key 
behavior didn't work for them had prior conflicting key remapping definitions 
set up with either Sharp Keys or their Fusion preferences.  Paul Erken's post 
about also turning off key definitions for the F-keys for Exposé, etc. is also 
good advice -- so you don't have other conflicting key definitions set up on 
the Mac side.


  I don't use JAWS, Windows, or VMware fusion myself, so I can only point you 
to the AppleVis pages.  Good luck.


  Cheers,


  Esther


  On

Re: Struggling with the new iTunes interface

[Esther]

Hi Graham,

I'll try to answer your questions about iTunes 11 even though I, personally, 
have not upgraded to this version. The following should work to get the new 
iTunes 11 into something that approximates the "Classic" view of iTunes that 
you are used to from earlier versions. I refer you to the TUAW article on 
"iTunes 11 for old fogies: goin' back to the way it was" by Erica Sadun:
http://aol.it/ShCsm3

1. Press Command-Option-S to restore the Sidebar in iTunes
2. Select the "Songs" radio button
3. Press Command-slash to restore the status bar 

Once you are in the traditional list view after selecting "Songs", you can sort 
by any column you like.  Your playlists should be available in the sidebar that 
you've restored.  Your playlist information about total playing time and number 
of items, should appear in the status bar, as before.  If you use the "Column 
Browser", and have enabled viewing of "Artists", "Albums", and "Composers" 
under the "Column Browser" submenu of your "View" menu option (on the iTunes 
menu bar), you can access them as before.

Write back if you still have problems.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 09:58, Graham Roby wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> Ever since I installed the new iTunes I've had loads of problems with it. 
> 
> Adding tracks to Playlists
> In the old version I found my song in the library, pressed vo shift m, 
> arrowed down to or typed a to get to ad to playlist sub menu and then 
> scrolled to the list I wanted, pressed enter and bingo, the track was added. 
> Now this doesn't happen. I'm finding the song, going through the steps 
> outlined above but when I've pressed enter on the playlist I want to add the 
> song to I have to do command c, then go to the required playlist before 
> pressing command v to drop the song in to that list. 
> 
> Also if I type in an artist in to the search box, and that artis has 6 
> albums, moving between the different albums is problematical. If I do get to 
> the right album and find its tracks, pressing enter on the track I've chosen 
> does't play it. 
> 
> Is there a setting I need to change to make things clearer? 
> 
> Hope this makes sense to some of you. 
> 
> Best
> 
> Graham

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Re: Time Capsule

[John Panarese]

  I think the only way you can get it to show up in Disk Utility is to directly 
connect the Time Capsule to your system.  I have one as well, and I can't find 
a way to get it to show up nor any of the air disk volumes.  I would assume 
that a direct connect would be necessary to run a hardware fix.


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On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> My Time machine backups are no longer happening and I have looked into the 
> problem.  It seems that the disk needs to be repaired.  Unfortunately, the 
> disk is not showing up in my Disk Utility.  Any thoughts on how I can get it 
> to show up, or any other way to repair it?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Password protected documents

[Linda Adams]

Hello,

 

I am stumped and need some help.  I am using Lion on a Macbook and am
working with text edit.  I have tried to create a disc image of an
individual  document so it would be password protected but have not been
successful.  I have been able to create a folder disc image that is
password protected in which I have put files.  It won't, however,  let
me edit the documents inside the disc image folder.  I've repeated the
process, checking each step but can't find where I'm going wrong.  I've
been told it can be done with Pages, but can I edit if I'm using text
edit and creating the disc image with the disc utility?

Thanks in advance,

Linda

 

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Re: Regarding ZCaptcha

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks for your forthrightness, Brandon. Rumola is indeed a very good service, 
although it's a little tricky to install. Thanks for giving the heads-up.

Teresa
On Apr 20, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Many of you have tried ZCaptcha over the past 7 months since its release.
> 
> Another captcha solving service has come to my attention in the past month, 
> called Rumola. For those who have not used it, basically it is a browser 
> plugin that automatically fills captchas when it finds one on a page.
> 
> I installed it on March 26 and have been using it since then. Every time I"m 
> on a form with a captcha, I can't say how surprised I am every time I reach 
> the captcha field and it is already filled in.
> 
> I have no intention of getting into browser plugins. I developed something in 
> a time when there wasn't much available for the Mac, according to the 
> resources I had available. However, I admit that Rumola is a better service, 
> and for me has been 100% accurate in the time I have used it.
> 
> I really have no interest in continuing to develop and improve ZCaptcha, 
> especially because I'm so happy using Rumola.
> 
> Right now I'm focused on my cloud Web hosting, so I really don't have time to 
> work on much else.
> 
> Anyway, ZCaptcha is still active and still being used by some, but I'm just 
> saying publicly that there will be no updates to it, and that I would 
> recommend Rumola from now on.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> God bless,
> Brandon Olivares
> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
> 
> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
> give you the kingdom.”
> 
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Time Capsule

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

My Time machine backups are no longer happening and I have looked into the 
problem.  It seems that the disk needs to be repaired.  Unfortunately, the disk 
is not showing up in my Disk Utility.  Any thoughts on how I can get it to show 
up, or any other way to repair it?

Thx,
Jeff

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Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

[Chris Gilland]

Wooo yeah!  and be certained! and I do mean, certained! that you look at how 
Tim wrote this command.

rm, space, dash r f, space, careful here! slash Volumes, with a capital V, 
slash the name of your drive, slash... again, be? careful! here! dot! star.  Be 
certain! and I mean, certain! that you put the dot in there before the star.  
If you don't, you're gonna wipe the entire drive!  Ouch!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: finder crashes when opening external disk


  Hi,


  Just a possible typo or clarification with your original post, did you try 
VO-f2-f2 to bring up the Window Chooser to possibly bring focus to that dialog?


  I'm wondering if there are any firmware upgrades for that HD.  I've had 
issues with WD drives in the past that were addressed by firmware upgrades to 
the drive itself.  These upgrades can usually be found on the Western Digital 
site.


  Alternatively, as long as you can confirm that the external drive has been 
backed up properly, try this Terminal command:


  sudo rm -rf /Volumes/Drive_Name/.*


  This is a very scary command as you can accidentally delete the entire 
contents of the drive, if entered incorrectly, thus my caution about making 
sure that the drive was backed up.


  Regarding Terminal not reading the line that you just entered, you may need 
to interact one more level in oder to view those entries.


  HTH.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On 2013-04-20, at 5:58 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:


Dear listers,

I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is 
mac os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go to 
this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume icon 
on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the desktop, but my 
wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or cancel. I cannot reach 
this window myself using command accent, nor with vo twice f1, nor by turning 
vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error window, then yes I can see it 
with vo.

While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files 
from the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create 
those from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.

This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal 
since, but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, 
VoiceOver says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read 
the previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find 
out how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem. 

I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the 
external drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a 
period. According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder crashes 
when opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in finder, but 
that command crashes finder as well, when I type in /volumes/macserver1. 
macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.

Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is 
backing it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that 
finder has problems with it. Any advice?

Paul.

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Re: Apple Submenu

[Chris Gilland]

That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry.

Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?


Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
"Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: Apple Submenu

[Alex Hall]

Same here - I have a Mini, so I don't move the mouse since it is off to the 
side. Besides, it happens predictably for the most part, not randomly like 
accidental mouse movements would cause. Looks like it's time to email Apple...

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2013, at 16:58, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> That's not the issue here. I just experimented with mouse movement and made 
> sure I didn't have the mouse down toggled down or anything like that. Problem 
> still exists. I wonder if this started with some recent update. It is 
> annoying for sure.
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
> 
>> Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
>> trackpad?
>> 
>> Just a thought.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
>>> On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
 "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
 characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
 then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
 cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
 control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
 cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
 this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
 where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
 the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
 keep saying "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
 that.
 
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Re: Apple Submenu

[Chris Gilland]

Maybe I'm just lucky.  I never even once have experienced this.

At least not even near in the contexts you all describe.  I've had it where 
sometimes I'll route my mouse to an object, then vo+shift+space to click, 
and it winds up clicking the apple menu instead, but that's about the 
closest thing even remotely that I've seen.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kerri" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Submenu


Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
"Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get 
this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place 
where I would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in 
the past; has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to 
keep saying "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of 
that.


Thanks for any ideas or help.

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Steve Holmes]

I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How many 
times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible to use 
with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any mention of 
a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something there but worth a 
look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y information for the time being.

I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who have 
no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less accessible 
than it really might be.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "J.P."  wrote:

> That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact you 
> have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. 
> Especially when it comes to paid apps.
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Re: Apple Submenu

[Steve Holmes]

That's not the issue here. I just experimented with mouse movement and made 
sure I didn't have the mouse down toggled down or anything like that. Problem 
still exists. I wonder if this started with some recent update. It is annoying 
for sure.

On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
> trackpad?
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
>> On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
>>> "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
>>> characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
>>> then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
>>> cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
>>> control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the 
>>> cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this 
>>> in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
>>> would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
>>> has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
>>> "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any ideas or help.
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[J.P.]

That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact you 
have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. Especially 
when it comes to paid apps.

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Re: Apple Submenu

[Harry Hogue]

Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on the 
trackpad?

Just a thought.

Harry

On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
> On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying 
>> "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual 
>> characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and 
>> then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or 
>> cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit 
>> control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor 
>> or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in 
>> TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is obviously a place where I 
>> would always want to interact. I've never had this situation in the past; 
>> has anyone here experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying 
>> "Apple submenu" I don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
>> 
>> Thanks for any ideas or help.
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Re: The insert key in VMware fusion

[Kliphton A M]

I use the grave key with sharp keys for jaws.  The capslock key in fusion just 
does not take.  Don't know why, but it doesn'.  Any other key shoud work though.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Brandt  wrote:

> Hi there folks,
> 
> I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at this 
> point in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier key for both 
> Jaws and NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no matter what I do, 
> CapsLock is always picked up by the Mac.
> 
> The only solution I know of, is to use a second keyboard. Is there any 
> others? I would be happy, for then I don't need to plug in the secondary 
> keyboard into the Mac.
> 
> Thanks so long.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Brandt Steenkamp
> 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi folks,
Interesting discussion.
This is just a suggestion.
Why does access have to be included in the same ratings system at all?
 Two ideas come to mind here, again just as a question.
First  why not create an a-class or an I class designation.  a for 
accessible or i for inclusion.  Make it a marketing designation, not a 
strictly developers one.
as in is your ap good or cool enough for Apple's a-class?  give developers 
a pr reason to want to make the applications work...just because the 
designation has marketing  value.
I mean after all according to the center for disease Control stateside some 
21 million people fall under the sight issue umbrella.  that does not even 
begin to count the other populations who benefit from vo  functionality.
Take it totally out of the help those people arena and into the marketing 
because you want those customers arena.  also saves the reworking Erik has 
outlined  below.
second, and again I am simply wondering, should not Apple have the final 
and only  firm say as to if an application works with vo?
I mean letting random people as noted here vent their frustration against a 
company they do not like would be counter productive.  So why base it on 
something so individual in the first place?
There are as many variations on how a person uses a product as there are 
people using that product.
best to well put it all in a different category anyway. One that rewards 
Apple for making the effort, and rewards developers who take the time.

Just my perspective,
Karen

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, erik burggraaf wrote:


Hi, you can't have a rating of 1 to 5 for accessibility.  I think this is a 
good idea and I'd like it to happen, but I don't think you've thought it 
through very well, as with all the others who have voiced it before you.  This 
is nothing new believe me.

First, you can't have an accessibility rating from one to five.  The reason is 
that a significant portion of the user base won't be actively using the product 
with accessibility features and therefore won't be in a position to rate the 
accessibility fairly.  The rating has to be from 0 or n/a to 5 excellent or 
fully accessible.

Second, if you make an accessibility rating from 0 to 5, that means you have to 
make all of the other criteria 0 to 5 as well.  In short, you are asking for a 
complete rewrite of the database used to track the ratings, not to mention the 
front end.

Third, once you have added the ability to have a 0 rating, you then have to 
assess how being rated 0 on one of the criteria effects the overall rating of 
an app and make sure the math is done properly so the rating system is fair.

Fourth, after you've completely rewritten the rating system, How do you prevent 
disenfranchised people who either got bad support or had a product fail or 
conflict with other things running on their machine, or who just didn't like 
the price and thought they'd show the developer what fore, from rating the 
accessibility a 1 without even knowing or caring what that rating is for.  That 
would mislead users and compromise the rating system, and there are plenty of 
people out there lazy, stupid or vindictive enough to do something like that.

Again, I think it's a great idea, and I wish apple had taken it into account 
when they were building their software distribution model.  But I don't think 
any amount of forum posting is going to get a move on this.  I'm sure hundreds 
of us have written to accessibil...@apple.com and requested this feature, since 
it comes up on the list once every three to six months or so.  It's on their 
radar and if anything can reasonably be done about it, the odds are good that 
it will be done.  You would be well off adding your voice to the ones who have 
already lobbied for this using approved channels and then waiting for it to 
happen.  Apple has listened to us in the past and though we don't usually hear 
from them, we have no reason to think that they aren't still listening.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

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Hey Guys,

 I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This isn't 
to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are a lot 
of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think that 
Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app stores. 
Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. Maybe if 
developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it.

 I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing here 
or there.

 I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for

Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Christine Grassman]

I see a lot of negativity in the replies to the post in the applevis forum, and 
that is a shame. If accessibility were part of the admissions process, this 
does not mean that an app would be rejected if not accessible, simply that it 
would be rated according to its accessibility or lack thereof, and then those 
requiring VO use could have an informed choice *prior* to buying. While not 
ideal, this would level the playing field considerably, with the added bonus of 
having developers *made aware* of the accessibility issue.  Then, it says a 
great deal more about them if they choose not to bother.
Additionally, there is a huge difference between true ignorance and knowing, 
because of customers reaching out to developers about accessibility, that there 
is an issue. Those developers who have been informed, and then choose to ignore 
us, are making a decision to do so, not merely operating out of lack of 
knowledge.  
Outright refusal to acknowledge customer contact says a lot about a developer, 
whether it is an accessibility issue or not. 
Christine
 and  

On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> That is a great idea. 
> 
> Take care
> Terje Strømberg
> 
> 
> Den 21. apr. 2013 kl. 21:29 skrev jshandr...@gmail.com:
> 
>> 
>> Hey Guys, 
>> 
>>  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated 
>> with some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. 
>> This isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. 
>> There are a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write 
>> them. I think that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the 
>> ios and Mac app stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to 
>> completely accessible. Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be 
>> inclined to fix it. 
>> 
>>  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
>> here or there. 
>> 
>>  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
>> inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
>> few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
>> developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
>> make apps accessible. 
>> 
>> Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
>> 
>> AppleVis link: 
>> http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
>> 
>> jP
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Struggling with the new iTunes interface

[Graham Roby]

Hi, 

Ever since I installed the new iTunes I've had loads of problems with it. 

Adding tracks to Playlists
In the old version I found my song in the library, pressed vo shift m, arrowed 
down to or typed a to get to ad to playlist sub menu and then scrolled to the 
list I wanted, pressed enter and bingo, the track was added. 
Now this doesn't happen. I'm finding the song, going through the steps outlined 
above but when I've pressed enter on the playlist I want to add the song to I 
have to do command c, then go to the required playlist before pressing command 
v to drop the song in to that list. 

Also if I type in an artist in to the search box, and that artis has 6 albums, 
moving between the different albums is problematical. If I do get to the right 
album and find its tracks, pressing enter on the track I've chosen does't play 
it. 

Is there a setting I need to change to make things clearer? 

Hope this makes sense to some of you. 

Best

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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, you can't have a rating of 1 to 5 for accessibility.  I think this is a 
good idea and I'd like it to happen, but I don't think you've thought it 
through very well, as with all the others who have voiced it before you.  This 
is nothing new believe me.

First, you can't have an accessibility rating from one to five.  The reason is 
that a significant portion of the user base won't be actively using the product 
with accessibility features and therefore won't be in a position to rate the 
accessibility fairly.  The rating has to be from 0 or n/a to 5 excellent or 
fully accessible.

Second, if you make an accessibility rating from 0 to 5, that means you have to 
make all of the other criteria 0 to 5 as well.  In short, you are asking for a 
complete rewrite of the database used to track the ratings, not to mention the 
front end.

Third, once you have added the ability to have a 0 rating, you then have to 
assess how being rated 0 on one of the criteria effects the overall rating of 
an app and make sure the math is done properly so the rating system is fair.

Fourth, after you've completely rewritten the rating system, How do you prevent 
disenfranchised people who either got bad support or had a product fail or 
conflict with other things running on their machine, or who just didn't like 
the price and thought they'd show the developer what fore, from rating the 
accessibility a 1 without even knowing or caring what that rating is for.  That 
would mislead users and compromise the rating system, and there are plenty of 
people out there lazy, stupid or vindictive enough to do something like that.

Again, I think it's a great idea, and I wish apple had taken it into account 
when they were building their software distribution model.  But I don't think 
any amount of forum posting is going to get a move on this.  I'm sure hundreds 
of us have written to accessibil...@apple.com and requested this feature, since 
it comes up on the list once every three to six months or so.  It's on their 
radar and if anything can reasonably be done about it, the odds are good that 
it will be done.  You would be well off adding your voice to the ones who have 
already lobbied for this using approved channels and then waiting for it to 
happen.  Apple has listened to us in the past and though we don't usually hear 
from them, we have no reason to think that they aren't still listening.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2013-04-21, at 3:29 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> Hey Guys, 
> 
>  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
> some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This 
> isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are 
> a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think 
> that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app 
> stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. 
> Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 
> 
>  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
> here or there. 
> 
>  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
> inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
> few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
> developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
> make apps accessible. 
> 
> Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
> 
> AppleVis link: 
> http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
> 
> jP
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi

That is a great idea. 

Take care
Terje Strømberg


Den 21. apr. 2013 kl. 21:29 skrev jshandr...@gmail.com:

> 
> Hey Guys, 
> 
>  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
> some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This 
> isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are 
> a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think 
> that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app 
> stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. 
> Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 
> 
>  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
> here or there. 
> 
>  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
> inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
> few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
> developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
> make apps accessible. 
> 
> Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
> 
> AppleVis link: 
> http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
> 
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Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!

[Christine Grassman]

This would be exceedingly helpful; it would eliminate guesswork, time, and 
inconvenience, and would thin the traffic for those of us asking each other if 
anyone knows whether this app or that app is accessible.  I have asked a number 
of times about apps and have often not received a response, probably because no 
one bothered to try a particular app without knowing whether or not it is 
accessible.  
Christine
On Apr 21, 2013, at 3:29 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> Hey Guys, 
> 
>  I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
> some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This 
> isn't to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are 
> a lot of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think 
> that Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app 
> stores. Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. 
> Maybe if developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 
> 
>  I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing 
> here or there. 
> 
>  I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
> inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
> few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
> developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
> make apps accessible. 
> 
> Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.
> 
> AppleVis link: 
> http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read
> 
> jP
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App Accessibility: Please Read!

[jshandra72]

Hey Guys, 

 I am writing this post in hopes of your support. I'm getting frustrated with 
some developers lack of dedication to accessibility for their apps. This isn't 
to slam all. Their are quite a few who understand importance. There are a lot 
of developers who don't respond to emails when you write them. I think that 
Apple should consider a rating for accessibility in the ios and Mac app stores. 
Maybe 1 to 5, for completely inaccessible to completely accessible. Maybe if 
developers see it in writing, they might be inclined to fix it. 

 I'm including a link to a post I put on AppleVis. Please consider signing here 
or there. 

 I also find it demeaning to contact Apple for credit on completely 
inaccessible apps. I'm not talking partially inaccessible. Their are quite a 
few which we find work arounds. We have all encountered the ones where 
developer make no effort, which is wrong because Apple does provide tools to 
make apps accessible. 

Thank you for your time. I will forward to Apple with feedback given.

AppleVis link: 
http://www.applevis.com/forum/accessibility-advocacy/app-accessibility-please-read

jP

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Re: flack conversion?

[-]

Either sox or xld can do this conversion.  A google will get you either 
using os10 and the name.


The former is terminal only, the latter gui or terminal.  Both are free 
and have multiple audio functions and features in addition to format 
conversion.


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Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert key in VMware fusion]

[Esther]

Hi Brandt, 

I know of only one way to remap the Caps Lock key to act as an insert key for 
modifier purposes under VMware fusion, and that is to use KeyRemap4MacBook and 
the PCKeyboardHack from:
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
and
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
 
The reason that you can't simply remap the function of the Caps Lock key to act 
as an insert key using Sharp Keys is that starting between the end of 2007 and 
the beginning of 2008, slightly after the time that Leopard was released, Apple 
modified the action of the Caps Lock key to include a slight delay before its 
activation.  Earlier models of the Intel MacBooks and MacBook Pros did not have 
this delay, but by 2009 all laptop Macs had the delay built in. This Apple 
Knowledge Base article gives details:
• Mac notebooks: Caps Lock modified to reduce accidental activation
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1192

Paul Erkens details the fact that while you can remap the Caps Lock key in 
VMware Fusion, you can't use it as a modifier key, in his reply to a current 
thread, "Re: Help with VMWare Fusion".  The extra time delay that is introduced 
is the reason why.  As to why this change was deliberately introduced, I 
believe that it was part of an accessibility solution for mobility disabled Mac 
users. This is only conjecture on my part based on having read some 
descriptions of accessibility standards for users with severe mobility 
impairments -- meaning quadraplegics and others who need to use mouth sticks to 
navigate keyboards, and use multiple presses of the Caps Lock for some 
sequences.

If you're asking whether it is possible to use the Caps Lock key as an insert 
key for JAWS under VMware fusion, the answer is yes -- Eric Caron has a podcast 
and guide up at the AppleVis site that details how he has set up the Caps Lock 
key to act as the VO (Control+Option) keys on his Mac laptop, and to act as the 
JAWS insert key when he uses Windows under VMware fusion.  You cannot, however, 
get this behavior by using either Sharp Keys, as you have found, or by using 
the VMware fusion preferences, as Paul described.  In fact, if you use 
KeyRemap4MacBook, you should not be using either Sharp Keys or the VMware 
preferences remapping, because you will already have introduced multiple 
remappings for your keys. 

Here's the link to the AppleVis podcast page:
• New & Updated: Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the 
VoiceOver Experience:
http://bit.ly/Qu1K2e
I've shortened the actual link, which would probably wrap and break, but it's:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/new-updated-remapping-keys-your-macs-keyboard-enhance-voiceover-experience

There is also a user guide at:
• Remapping the Keys on your Mac's Keyboard to Enhance the VoiceOver Experience
http://bit.ly/Q6eTye

However, while the user guide does provide useful documentation and references 
to the PCKeyboardHack page, it was written for the original podcast.  It 
describes the general way of customizing the keyboard for the PCKeyboardHack, 
while Eric was only interested in getting a remapping for the Caps Lock key.  
The developer responded by introducing a custom setting for "Blind Voice Over" 
in the application that would take care of this.  In addition, the most recent 
major update versions have incorporated this into app, so that it is no longer 
necessary to get the special version of the app to install that is referenced 
in the podcast.  In fact, if you try to do so, you'll be taken back to the main 
KeyRemap4MacBook web page.  Another change with the major update is that, 
instead of making the customization changes in preference panes for 
"KeyRemap4MacBook" and "PCKeyboardHack" under your System Preferences, you now 
work directly in these apps, instead.  

The AppleVis pages also contain a link to mac-access list post that provides 
more general information about working and configuring KeyRemap4MacBook.  Most 
of this was discussed on that list.

I'd simply conclude by saying that you do need to keep your key remapping 
actions straight, and that I suspect people who posted that the Insert key 
behavior didn't work for them had prior conflicting key remapping definitions 
set up with either Sharp Keys or their Fusion preferences.  Paul Erken's post 
about also turning off key definitions for the F-keys for Exposé, etc. is also 
good advice -- so you don't have other conflicting key definitions set up on 
the Mac side.

I don't use JAWS, Windows, or VMware fusion myself, so I can only point you to 
the AppleVis pages.  Good luck.

Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 06:45, Brandt wrote:

> Hi there folks,
> 
> I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at this 
> point in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier key for both 
> Jaws and NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no matter what I do, 
> CapsLock is always picked up by the Mac.
> 
> The only solution I 

Re: Apple Submenu

[Kerri]

Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line.
On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying "Apple 
> submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual characters in 
> simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and then hit the 
> return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or cursor around in 
> there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit control yet. For me, I 
> keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor or type. Now if I 
> interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in TextEdit if I don't 
> interact there but that is obviously a place where I would always want to 
> interact. I've never had this situation in the past; has anyone here 
> experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying "Apple submenu" I 
> don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas or help.
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

[Les Kriegler]

I actually did read the entire message. I'll read it again.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:21 AM, anouk radix  wrote:

> Dear Les,
> He explained this in his message if you read through it. you can disable 
> fusion sending keys to the mac when windows is turned on.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> Op 21/04/2013 17:06, Les Kriegler schreef:
>> Paul, this is very helpful.  My question here is if you re-assign the 
>> Command key to function as an Alt key, how would you switch between the Mac 
>> OS and Windows?  Thanks.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Yolanda and Phil,
>>> 
>>> Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
>>> 
>>> 1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
>>> menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right 
>>> until you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this 
>>> menu, and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that 
>>> says: windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is 
>>> off, vo down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start 
>>> windows. Easy, isn't it?
>>> 
>>> 2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings 
>>> in fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, 
>>> that the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start 
>>> key, and the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows 
>>> key, instead functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If 
>>> you are used to the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has 
>>> it is not what you want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, 
>>> your alt is windows key, and the windows key does alt.
>>> 
>>> To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
>>> fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
>>> preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
>>> screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
>>> the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
>>> mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.
>>> 
>>> Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
>>> to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have 
>>> a listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is 
>>> pressed. For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the 
>>> windows logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further 
>>> more, fusion also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, 
>>> which is copy, but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in 
>>> windows, do you? So, clear out all definitions in this listbox and start 
>>> over with what you want yourself.
>>> 
>>> Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
>>> button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor 
>>> on the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all 
>>> key definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.
>>> 
>>> Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
>>> The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a 
>>> to, field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in 
>>> the from section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For 
>>> the rest, leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to 
>>> check this command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that 
>>> says alt, check it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one 
>>> next to spacebar, defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check 
>>> command key in the from section, and make that key do alt, in the to 
>>> section.
>>> 
>>> Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In 
>>> other words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, 
>>> the second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
>>> windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit 
>>> add again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
>>> definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, 
>>> holds the windows logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel 
>>> natural.
>>> 
>>> Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
>>> falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
>>> track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens 
>>> by default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely 
>>> land in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other 
>>> place. This is because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, 
>>> if you don'

Re: Very slow Internet on one Mac, but not another.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

One other thing to look at is traceroute timings. Traceroute is an area in the 
Network Utility. Pick a well known  server that has dfferent speeds for the two 
computers and try to do a traceroute to it. This is a way to ask the network 
how you get to the server. Generally the first 3-4 lines should be almost 
identical on this traceroute. If not. 
1. If one traceroute gives names and the other does not then you probbly have a 
DNS misconfiguration. .
2. If the numbers diverge on the secodn or third hop, try  restarting the slow 
system.
I believe there is a reset DHCP or request new lease for DHCP button in Network 
configuration which might resolve issues. 

Another possibility is that your carrier only wants you to connect one machine.

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Re: The insert key in VMware fusion

[anouk radix]

Hi Brandt, Pl;ease review the message that was posted by Paul earlier 
today. You can map insert with vmware fusion itself, for caps lock you 
will still have to use sharp keys, if you want to use it as a modifier 
key instead of just a toggle. As far as I know this should work with 
sharp keys and win7 but i am not sure about win8. (I personally hope i 
wont need the caps lock for nvda desktop layout anymore).

hth
Greetings, Anouk,
Op 21/04/2013 18:45, Brandt schreef:

Hi there folks,

I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at 
this point in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier 
key for both Jaws and NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no 
matter what I do, CapsLock is always picked up by the Mac.


The only solution I know of, is to use a second keyboard. Is there any 
others? I would be happy, for then I don't need to plug in the 
secondary keyboard into the Mac.


Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

[Esther]

Hi Annie,

Not sure, but I think what I did was first interact with the text field and 
then do VO-Shift-Space to click, and then I could delete the text in the File 
Renamer text box dialog window.  I don't think that I tried routing my mouse 
cursor there first, since I was able to do the click after interacting.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
On 21 Apr 2013, at 07:16, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi Esther.
> 
> I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
> press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could 
> press vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could 
> delete the content of the field and write something else.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Cheers Annie.
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Annie,
>> 
>> I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
>> File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
>> you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
>> AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default 
>> value.  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the 
>> text box so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you 
>> may think that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and 
>> then I could delete the default string:
>> [artist] - [name]
>> Remember that each of the arguments like "artist" and "name" is surrounded 
>> by brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
>> examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are 
>> used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to "Get Info", and examine the 
>> "Info" tab. My O'Reilly books use "name", "artist", and "album", where 
>> "name" and "album", give the title of the book, and "artist" gives the 
>> author.  My iPhone user guides from iBooks only use "name" and "artist".  Do 
>> not try to type in a field like "[author]", because that's not a tag that 
>> iTunes uses.  If, for example, you wanted to use the author, you would 
>> delete references to "[name]" and have the text argument only contain a 
>> string like:
>> [artist]
>> I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
>> title. If the title information is under the "comments" field, and you 
>> wanted to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type 
>> in:
>> [comments]
>> Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be a 
>> valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you 
>> ePub books.  Maybe the "description" field is used for title information. 
>> You can activate it in the "View" menu options by bringing up the window 
>> with Command-J and checking the box for "description". None of my ePub books 
>> use this field, and you won't find it on the "Info" tab, but you can set 
>> your library to display this.
>> 
>> HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is that 
>> you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're 
>> buried under the Package contents of the script under Resources > Scripts > 
>> main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. 
>> This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out 
>> that this was a contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.
>> 
>> By the way, I thought that the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript might also 
>> rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
>> folder and file names then match the tags.   
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Esther.
>>> 
>>> I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
>>> should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately 
>>> the field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically 
>>> uses the author and the title.
>>> 
>>> It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
>>> think I will need to make a donation.
>>> 
>>> Cheers Annie.
>>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Annie, 
 
 If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
 some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
 changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
 epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is 
 just "name", which is the same as the "name" track for music tracks.   And 
 for my ePub books, the author is entered into the "artist" field. Probably 
 the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript could be used for this.  From the 
 description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you select 
 your tracks in iTunes, then you run the script, which you just locate by 
 name "This Tag That

Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Esther.

I could not do that vo+shift click, I have tried a lot of times. I tried to 
press vo+command+f5, I have also tried that before, but suddenly I could press 
vo+shift+space, and I was not thrown out of the program, and I could delete the 
content of the field and write something else.

Thank you.

Cheers Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Annie,
> 
> I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the 
> File Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that 
> you can't change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's 
> AppleScripts, is that there's usually a text box filled with a default value. 
>  I just downloaded the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the text box 
> so you could edit it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you may think 
> that you can't edit the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and then I could 
> delete the default string:
> [artist] - [name]
> Remember that each of the arguments like "artist" and "name" is surrounded by 
> brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to 
> examine one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are 
> used. Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to "Get Info", and examine the 
> "Info" tab. My O'Reilly books use "name", "artist", and "album", where "name" 
> and "album", give the title of the book, and "artist" gives the author.  My 
> iPhone user guides from iBooks only use "name" and "artist".  Do not try to 
> type in a field like "[author]", because that's not a tag that iTunes uses.  
> If, for example, you wanted to use the author, you would delete references to 
> "[name]" and have the text argument only contain a string like:
> [artist]
> I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on 
> title. If the title information is under the "comments" field, and you wanted 
> to replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type in:
> [comments]
> Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be a 
> valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you 
> ePub books.  Maybe the "description" field is used for title information. You 
> can activate it in the "View" menu options by bringing up the window with 
> Command-J and checking the box for "description". None of my ePub books use 
> this field, and you won't find it on the "Info" tab, but you can set your 
> library to display this.
> 
> HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is that 
> you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're buried 
> under the Package contents of the script under Resources > Scripts > 
> main.scpt.  This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. 
> This didn't seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out 
> that this was a contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.
> 
> By the way, I thought that the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript might also 
> rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
> folder and file names then match the tags.   
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Esther.
>> 
>> I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
>> should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately the 
>> field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically uses 
>> the author and the title.
>> 
>> It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
>> think I will need to make a donation.
>> 
>> Cheers Annie.
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Annie, 
>>> 
>>> If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
>>> some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
>>> changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
>>> epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is just 
>>> "name", which is the same as the "name" track for music tracks.   And for 
>>> my ePub books, the author is entered into the "artist" field. Probably the 
>>> "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript could be used for this.  From the 
>>> description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you select your 
>>> tracks in iTunes, then you run the script, which you just locate by name 
>>> "This Tag That Tag" under the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once you 
>>> copy the AppleScript to a "Library/iTunes/Scripts" folder under your user 
>>> account.  If you have never used AppleScripts in iTunes before, you'll have 
>>> to create the "Scripts" folder in this location.  Once you've selected this 
>>> AppleScript, a dialog menu should come up to let you choose what action you 
>>> want to take with your tags: copy, append, swap, or prepend.  In this case 
>>> you'd select "copy".  Then you'd sele

Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

[Esther]

Hi Annie,

I'm surprised that the field for changing values is not accessible in the File 
Renamer applescript. I found that script, too.  But are you sure that you can't 
change that field?  The way the dialog boxes work for Doug's AppleScripts, is 
that there's usually a text box filled with a default value.  I just downloaded 
the script to check.  Did you try clicking in the text box so you could edit 
it?  Remember, if you are in QuickNav mode, you may think that you can't edit 
the text box.  I did a VO-Shift-Space, and then I could delete the default 
string:
[artist] - [name]
Remember that each of the arguments like "artist" and "name" is surrounded by 
brackets.  In order to use a valid field for the text box, you have to examine 
one of the ePub files you want to rename and check which fields are used. 
Select an ePub track, then do Command-I to "Get Info", and examine the "Info" 
tab. My O'Reilly books use "name", "artist", and "album", where "name" and 
"album", give the title of the book, and "artist" gives the author.  My iPhone 
user guides from iBooks only use "name" and "artist".  Do not try to type in a 
field like "[author]", because that's not a tag that iTunes uses.  If, for 
example, you wanted to use the author, you would delete references to "[name]" 
and have the text argument only contain a string like:
[artist]
I don't know which field your ePub books use for the tag information on title. 
If the title information is under the "comments" field, and you wanted to 
replace the name with the contents of that field, you would type in:
[comments]
Hope this is clear.  Any argument that you use in the text field has to be a 
valid tag field that actually corresponds to a field that is used for you ePub 
books.  Maybe the "description" field is used for title information. You can 
activate it in the "View" menu options by bringing up the window with Command-J 
and checking the box for "description". None of my ePub books use this field, 
and you won't find it on the "Info" tab, but you can set your library to 
display this.

HTH.  The only thing I don't like about the new Gatekeeper protocols is that 
you can no longer directly view any of the AppleScript codes.  They're buried 
under the Package contents of the script under Resources > Scripts > main.scpt. 
 This used to be a great way to learn about AppleScript coding. This didn't 
seem like Doug's style of writing AppleScripts, and I found out that this was a 
contributed AppleScript from someone else that he re-wrote.

By the way, I thought that the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript might also 
rename your files if you allow iTunes to organize your library, since the 
folder and file names then match the tags.   

Cheers,

Esther

On 21 Apr 2013, at 04:49, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi Esther.
> 
> I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
> should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately the 
> field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically uses 
> the author and the title.
> 
> It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I 
> think I will need to make a donation.
> 
> Cheers Annie.
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Annie, 
>> 
>> If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use 
>> some of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate 
>> changing the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the 
>> epub files use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is just 
>> "name", which is the same as the "name" track for music tracks.   And for my 
>> ePub books, the author is entered into the "artist" field. Probably the 
>> "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript could be used for this.  From the 
>> description, I think the way this AppleScript works is that you select your 
>> tracks in iTunes, then you run the script, which you just locate by name 
>> "This Tag That Tag" under the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once you 
>> copy the AppleScript to a "Library/iTunes/Scripts" folder under your user 
>> account.  If you have never used AppleScripts in iTunes before, you'll have 
>> to create the "Scripts" folder in this location.  Once you've selected this 
>> AppleScript, a dialog menu should come up to let you choose what action you 
>> want to take with your tags: copy, append, swap, or prepend.  In this case 
>> you'd select "copy".  Then you'd select the metadata tag fields that you'd 
>> want to use.  So maybe in this case you'd want to copy the "album" tag to 
>> the "name" tag, or the "artist" tag to the "name" tag.   I'm making up these 
>> examples, because I don't actually know how your ePub files are tagged, or 
>> even which fields you are using.  Just note that these changes are not 
>> reversible, so if you want to be extra cautious, make a set of copies of 
>> your tracks beforehand.  And just choose one ePub book to try the 
>> 

The insert key in VMware fusion

[Brandt]

Hi there folks,

I have a copy of Windows 7 in VMware fusion, but I'm not using it at this point 
in time due to the fact that the insert key, the modifier key for both Jaws and 
NVDA refuse to be mapped by Sharp keys, and no matter what I do, CapsLock is 
always picked up by the Mac.

The only solution I know of, is to use a second keyboard. Is there any others? 
I would be happy, for then I don't need to plug in the secondary keyboard into 
the Mac.

Thanks so long.

Warm regards,

Brandt Steenkamp

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Re: Converting Columns to Rows in Numbers

[Tim Kilburn]

Kevin,

Note the total number of rows in your Raw Input sheet, then try this:

• In the first column of your second worksheet, enter the digit 1 in A1 then 
enter the formula "=A1+4" in A2.  Then start from A2 selecting down with 
shift-down arrow until VO announces that you've selected the correct number of 
rows.  That is, if there are 1000 rows in the Raw Input Sheet, you need to hear 
VO say "249 Rows Selected".  One less than a quarter due to only selecting from 
A2 on.  This process should place the numbers 1, 5, 9, 13 and so on within 
column "A" of your sheet.

• Next, we'll pretend that there are 1000 rows in the Raw Input Sheet.  In cell 
B1 of your second sheet, enter the formula "=index(Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1)".  What this should do is tell NUmbers to look at the first 
row of Raw Input, Table 1 for a value and place it into cell B1.

• For cell C1, enter the formula "=index("Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1+1)".  This tells Numbers to look at row 2 for this entry.

• For cell D1, enter the formula "=index("Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1+2)".  This tells Numbers to look at row 3 for this entry.

• For cell E1, enter the formula "=index("Raw Input::Table 
1::$a$1:$a$1000,a1+3)".  This tells Numbers to look at row 4 for this entry.

• Now, you should be able to use the Insert menu, Fill Down for each of columns 
B, C, D and E individually.  For example, for Column B, go to cell B1 then hold 
down your shift key and arrow down until you've selected 250 rows as announced 
by VO.  Go up to the Insert menu, down to Fill and over and down to the "Down" 
to Fill this formula down the rest of the column.  All your song titles should 
appear in this column.

• Do the same process for each of the other three columns and you should get 
your desired result.

Note that you won't be able to delete the items in the Raw Input Sheet because, 
if you do, all the data is gone and thus you're referencing cells that are 
empty.

Hope this helps and sorry if I typed any errors in the syntax of the 
Sheet/Table/Cell REferences.

Good luck.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-20, at 2:42 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:

> Thanks Tim. One more question for anyone else on this thread.
> 
> The method you mentioned is great for a list, however, what I need to do is 
> convert four line blocks of text into four columns. 
> 
> In other words, I need to convert:
> 
> Bananas
> No Doubt
> Columbia Records
> Sony Music Inc.
> Get Lucky
> Daft Punk
> Columbia Records
> Sony Music Inc.
> Heartbroken
> Meaghan Smith
> Capitol Records
> Warner Music/BMG
> 
> to:
> 
> Bananas   No DoubtColumbiaSony Music INc.
> Get Lucky Daft Punk   Columbia Sony Music Inc.
> Heartbroken   Meaghan Smith   Capitol Warner/BMG
> 
> and so on.
> 
> What I've done is pasted everything as a single column in my first worksheet 
> which I've called Raw Input. 
> 
> In my second sheet, I've put a formula in to reference the Raw Input sheet 
> and cell that I need. So, in the prior example, all song titles are listed 
> like this:
> =Raw Input:Table 1:A1
> =Raw Input:Table 1:A5
> =Raw Input:Table 1:A9
> 
> In the next column, I've reiterated the process, however starting at A2 and 
> going every 4 cells.
> 
> I'm wondering if there's a formula to automate this process, like telling 
> Numbers to fill down the column with every nth cell. If there's a way to do 
> this, I'd save myself lots of time!
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> 
> On 2013-04-20, at 4:29 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> How about you try this in TextEdit:
>> 
>> 1.  Open the document.
>> 2.  Make sure the document is in Plain Text from under the Format menu.
>> 3.  Press cmd-f to bring up the Find dialog.
>> 4.  In the Find field, press Option-return.  That's pressing the return key 
>> while the Option key is down.
>> 5.  In the Replace field, press Option-tab.  That's pressing the tab-key 
>> while the Option key is down.
>> 
>> What this does is look for return characters and replace them with tab 
>> characters.  Now when you import this into Numbers, it will place the items 
>> horizontally instead of vertically.
>> 
>> The issue that may arise though, is that if you use the Replace All 
>> functionality, the entire document will go across the Spreadsheet in columns 
>> which may not be your desired result.  What I'd do to fix this, is search 
>> for the key words like "Incorporated" in "Sony Music Incorporated" then 
>> replace the tab in that case with a return.  You may wish to search for the 
>> exact phrase, not just "Incorporated" so that things like "Frustrated 
>> Incorporated" or "Pop Music" do not confuse your replacing operation.  Using 
>> this method, it should be able to essentially, divide these into groups so 
>> that those four items are placed in a row then the next song or item is 
>> placed within the next row.  You'll need to do this in the order I've 
>> mentioned here as the tabs must be created fi

Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

[anouk radix]

Dear Les,
He explained this in his message if you read through it. you can disable 
fusion sending keys to the mac when windows is turned on.

Greetings, Anouk,
Op 21/04/2013 17:06, Les Kriegler schreef:

Paul, this is very helpful.  My question here is if you re-assign the Command 
key to function as an Alt key, how would you switch between the Mac OS and 
Windows?  Thanks.

Les
On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:


Hi Yolanda and Phil,

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, and 
then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: windows 
is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo down arrow 
some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. Easy, isn't it?

2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that the 
key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and the mac 
option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead functions 
as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to the layout 
of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you want, because 
by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows key, and the 
windows key does alt.

To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When fusion 
is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion preferences. 
Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different screens. You can 
switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at the top of the 
screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and mouse shortcuts. The 
screen for that will open.

Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how to 
handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows logo 
key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion also 
assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, but you 
don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, clear out 
all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want yourself.

Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.

Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. The 
add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, field. 
In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from section 
for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, leave the 
entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this command key 
box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check it, and hit 
okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, defined as alt 
in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the from section, and 
make that key do alt, in the to section.

Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the windows 
key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add again, 
check option in the from section, and in the to section for this definition, 
find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds the windows 
logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.

Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens by 
default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely land 
in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other place. This is 
because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, if you don't do 
anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to windows.

To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which is 
reachable via the toolbar, is called mac os shortcuts. In other words, when you 
fire up fusion and windows is still off, hit command comma to open fusion's 
preferences, find the toolbar, interact, find mac os shortcuts, hit vo space, 
stop interact.
In this window, ther

Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Just a possible typo or clarification with your original post, did you try 
VO-f2-f2 to bring up the Window Chooser to possibly bring focus to that dialog?

I'm wondering if there are any firmware upgrades for that HD.  I've had issues 
with WD drives in the past that were addressed by firmware upgrades to the 
drive itself.  These upgrades can usually be found on the Western Digital site.

Alternatively, as long as you can confirm that the external drive has been 
backed up properly, try this Terminal command:

sudo rm -rf /Volumes/Drive_Name/.*

This is a very scary command as you can accidentally delete the entire contents 
of the drive, if entered incorrectly, thus my caution about making sure that 
the drive was backed up.

Regarding Terminal not reading the line that you just entered, you may need to 
interact one more level in oder to view those entries.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-20, at 5:58 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:

> Dear listers,
> 
> I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is mac 
> os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go to 
> this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume icon 
> on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the desktop, but 
> my wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or cancel. I cannot 
> reach this window myself using command accent, nor with vo twice f1, nor by 
> turning vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error window, then yes I 
> can see it with vo.
> 
> While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files from 
> the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create those 
> from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.
> 
> This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal since, 
> but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, VoiceOver 
> says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read the 
> previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find out 
> how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem. 
> 
> I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the external 
> drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a period. 
> According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder crashes when 
> opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in finder, but 
> that command crashes finder as well, when I type in /volumes/macserver1. 
> macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.
> 
> Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is backing 
> it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that finder 
> has problems with it. Any advice?
> 
> Paul.
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

[Les Kriegler]

Paul, this is very helpful.  My question here is if you re-assign the Command 
key to function as an Alt key, how would you switch between the Mac OS and 
Windows?  Thanks.

Les
On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Paul Erkens  wrote:

> Hi Yolanda and Phil,
> 
> Let's not make this more complicated than it is.
> 
> 1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
> menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
> you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, 
> and then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: 
> windows is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo 
> down arrow some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. 
> Easy, isn't it?
> 
> 2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
> fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that 
> the key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and 
> the mac option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead 
> functions as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to 
> the layout of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you 
> want, because by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows 
> key, and the windows key does alt.
> 
> To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When 
> fusion is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion 
> preferences. Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different 
> screens. You can switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at 
> the top of the screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and 
> mouse shortcuts. The screen for that will open.
> 
> Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how 
> to handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
> listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
> For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows 
> logo key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion 
> also assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, 
> but you don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, 
> clear out all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want 
> yourself.
> 
> Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
> button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
> the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
> definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.
> 
> Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. 
> The add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, 
> field. In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from 
> section for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, 
> leave the entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this 
> command key box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check 
> it, and hit okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, 
> defined as alt in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the 
> from section, and make that key do alt, in the to section.
> 
> Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
> words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
> second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the 
> windows key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add 
> again, check option in the from section, and in the to section for this 
> definition, find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds 
> the windows logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.
> 
> Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
> falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
> track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens by 
> default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely land 
> in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other place. This 
> is because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, if you don't 
> do anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to windows.
> 
> To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which 
> is reachable via the toolbar, is called mac os shortcuts. In other words, 
> when you fire up fusion and windows is still off, hit command comma to open 
> fusion's preferences, find the toolbar, interact, find mac os shortcuts, hit 
> vo space, stop interact.
> In this window, there's a simple checkbox that you can turn off, labeled 
>

Re: pdf files when in a web site

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Take a look in the Library folder of your Macintosh HD volume.  Look for 
Internet Plug-Ins.  There should be two items related to Adobe Reader right 
near the top of the list.  Try deleting the first plug-in and see what happens 
for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-04-21, at 5:33 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys 
> Someone may have addressed this somewhere, but I can't remember. If you're in 
> a web site and you want to look at a pdf file, is there a way to tell Safari 
> that you want to use Preview instead of Adobe Acrobat Reader. Somewhere along 
> the way I got Adobe Reader on my Mac, and I guess I should really take it off 
> so I don't end up with what might as well be a blank screen if I call up a 
> pdf file. I suppose I could save the file out and then reload it again in 
> Preview, but it would be nice not to need to do that. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
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Re: Use AppleScripts to edit your ePub metadata in iTunes [was Re: epub and metadata.]

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Esther.

I found in fact an app on dougscripts, where you can specify which fields 
should appear in the new title, it is called file renamer, unfortunately the 
field for changing the values is not accessible, but it automatically uses the 
author and the title.

It is an interesting scripts site, that I can use several scripts from. I think 
I will need to make a donation.

Cheers Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Annie, 
> 
> If these ePub files are in your iTunes library, I think you can just use some 
> of the AppleScripts for iTunes at Doug Adams' web site to automate changing 
> the titles.  The only thing I'm wondering is if the whether the epub files 
> use the same keywords.  I think that the file name field is just "name", 
> which is the same as the "name" track for music tracks.   And for my ePub 
> books, the author is entered into the "artist" field. Probably the "This Tag 
> That Tag" AppleScript could be used for this.  From the description, I think 
> the way this AppleScript works is that you select your tracks in iTunes, then 
> you run the script, which you just locate by name "This Tag That Tag" under 
> the scripts menu.  This menu shows up once you copy the AppleScript to a 
> "Library/iTunes/Scripts" folder under your user account.  If you have never 
> used AppleScripts in iTunes before, you'll have to create the "Scripts" 
> folder in this location.  Once you've selected this AppleScript, a dialog 
> menu should come up to let you choose what action you want to take with your 
> tags: copy, append, swap, or prepend.  In this case you'd select "copy".  
> Then you'd select the metadata tag fields that you'd want to use.  So maybe 
> in this case you'd want to copy the "album" tag to the "name" tag, or the 
> "artist" tag to the "name" tag.   I'm making up these examples, because I 
> don't actually know how your ePub files are tagged, or even which fields you 
> are using.  Just note that these changes are not reversible, so if you want 
> to be extra cautious, make a set of copies of your tracks beforehand.  And 
> just choose one ePub book to try the AppleScript out with before you run this 
> with several files selected.  
> 
> It's also possible that there's a better AppleScript to use for the purposes 
> that you want under the "Managing Track Info" group of AppleScripts at that 
> site.  I haven't used (or even downloaded) the AppleScript in question, 
> although I have previously used other AppleScripts from this site before.
> 
> I think you want to get the "This Tag That Tag" AppleScript from this URL at 
> the dougscripts.com site:
> http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=thistagthattag
> 
> The AppleScript "This Tag That Tag v.3.2 can be found as a heading level 2.  
> Navigate with VO-Down arrow to read the description and then to read the 
> group of two download links for downloading the script and the read me pdf 
> file.  There's also a heading level 3 description of "how to download & 
> install" that explains that the download file will be a .zip that opens as a 
> .dmg file. (Navigate with VO-Down arrow here, as well, to read the 
> description.)  It also explains that you should put the script contents of 
> the of the .dmg file into your ~/Library/iTunes/Scripts folder, and that you 
> may have to create the Scripts folder if this is your first AppleScript under 
> iTunes.  Just use standard Finder navigation (e.g. use Command-Shift-G to "go 
> to folder", and then type or paste in the path:
> ~/LIbrary/iTunes/
> -- or tilde slash Library slash iTunes for the directory, then create the 
> Scripts folder, and navigate to it.  You can copy and paste the AppleScript 
> to this location.  You can also save the Read me file somewhere convenient.
> 
> There may be other scripts you can use, but this seemed to be one suited to 
> your requirements.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 19 Apr 2013, at 05:32, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I have some epub files which has some rather strange file names, can I 
>> change them based on the metadata of the files.
>> 
>> It would be great if there is a way to convert multiple files to correct 
>> file names based on e.g. the title field or maybe  also the author field of 
>> the metadata, does anyone know how I can do that. I have tried playing a 
>> little with ITunes, but I can not get ITunes to do what I want.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
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Re: Help with VMWare Fusion

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Yolanda and Phil,

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

1. After having started fusion, you can start windows by opening the normal 
menubar with vo plus m, m for menu as a mnemonic. Then, vo arrow right until 
you find the item called virtual machines. Hit vo space to open this menu, and 
then vo arrow down. You will either find a dimmed text item that says: windows 
is running, or windows is off. If you find that windows is off, vo down arrow 
some more, and you'll ind the option that reads: start windows. Easy, isn't it?

2. If you are inside windows and you are still using the default settings in 
fusion, then you may run into several strange issues. One of them is, that the 
key next to your spacebar, is functioning as the windows start key, and the mac 
option key, which you would love to have as your windows key, instead functions 
as an alt key in windows. That can be confusing. If you are used to the layout 
of a windows keyboard, then the way fusion has it is not what you want, because 
by default, on a fusion virtual windows, your alt is windows key, and the 
windows key does alt.

To change, or swap this, you need to go into fusion's preferences. When fusion 
is up, and windows is off, hit command comma to get to tfusion preferences. 
Once in there, there are many settings, devided into different screens. You can 
switch among these different screens, using the toolbar at the top of the 
screen. Interact with it, and hit vo space on keyboard and mouse shortcuts. The 
screen for that will open.

Stop interacting and look at the screen. Now, I think you will find out how to 
handle the interface here, but let me tell you this in advance. You have a 
listbox here, that tells fusion what to do when a certain mac key is pressed. 
For example, here you have the command key, defined to perform the windows logo 
key function, which is what you want to get rid of. Further more, fusion also 
assigns command c to do what control c does in windows, which is copy, but you 
don't want alt c to be the same as control c in windows, do you? So, clear out 
all definitions in this listbox and start over with what you want yourself.

Next to the listbox with key definitions, you will find 2 unlabled buttons, 
button, button. The first is add, the second is delete. Put the vo cursor on 
the second one, and hit vo space until the listbox is empty. Now, all key 
definitions are gone and you must create some of your own.

Hit the add button, being the first unlabeled button next to the list box. The 
add key definitions dialog appears, and here, you have a from, and a to, field. 
In the from field, to defind command to be alt in windows, in the from section 
for this key, check the checkbox that says: command. For the rest, leave the 
entire from section for what it is. You only need to check this command key 
box. Now in the to field, find the checkbox that says alt, check it, and hit 
okay. There you have your command key, the one next to spacebar, defined as alt 
in windows. All you did was hit add, check command key in the from section, and 
make that key do alt, in the to section.

Now, go on with the option key, to do the windows logo key function. In other 
words, when you are inside windows later on, and you then hit option, the 
second key to the left of the spacebar, you want that key to become the windows 
key, that opens the start menu and search field. To do this, hit add again, 
check option in the from section, and in the to section for this definition, 
find the unlabeled checkbox. That very unlabeled checkbox, holds the windows 
logo key. Hit okay. So now, alt and windows key feel natural.

Your next question, Yolanda and Phil, was what to do to prevent you from 
falling out of windows into the mac side, i.e. into fusion, thereby loosing 
track of what you are doing. If you hit alt tab, for example, what happens by 
default, is that you are switching away from fusion, and you will likely land 
in finder, the applications window, the mac desktop or any other place. This is 
because by default, the command or alt tab key combination, if you don't do 
anything about it, will be sent to the mac, and not to windows.

To correct this, look in the fusion preferences, the third tab sheet, which is 
reachable via the toolbar, is called mac os shortcuts. In other words, when you 
fire up fusion and windows is still off, hit command comma to open fusion's 
preferences, find the toolbar, interact, find mac os shortcuts, hit vo space, 
stop interact.
In this window, there's a simple checkbox that you can turn off, labeled enable 
mac os keyboard shortcuts. . This will turn off Exposé keys, as well as command 
tab. Hit command w to close the fusion preferences window and save your new key 
mappings. From now on, if you alt tab while you are in windows, then windows 
will obey, instead of os 10  sending you into the woods, unintentionally.

Another thing you will want to do in windows, assuming you w

Re: Regarding ZCaptcha

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

My safari went busy when I installed the rumola extension. I succeded in the 
end, but it took me several times of trying. I found the extension in my 
downloads folder and opened it, VoiceOver said nothing, at last I succeded, but 
is there a way to succeed the first time when installing such extensions.

Best regards Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Found their plugins instructions for voiceover on safari:
> 
> http://www.skipinput.com/bps/safari.html
> 
> and to install the plugin for Firefox, Chrome or Safari follow the links here:
> 
> http://www.skipinput.com/bps/install.html
> 
> They do not currently have a plugin for iOS but I think their browser detect 
> is broken and thinks any instance of Safari is on an iOS device.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/20/13 7:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Know what, I got the same thing.  Wonder if maybe it's an outdated page or 
>> something.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> Tried, but the site told me that the extension doesn't support Safari.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> 
>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>> 
>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>> 
>>> Contact me:
>>> 
>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
>>> 
>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> My ring to Skype:
>>> California, United States
>>>   +(1)760-5140161  
>>> Extension 512
>>> Cape Town, South Africa
>>>+(27)213-002317  
>>> Extension 161
>>> Johannesburg, South Africa
>>> +(27)105-002316
>>> Extension 170
>>> 
>>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
>>> 
>>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com
>>> 
>>> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp
>>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2013, at 12:44 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Yep, it works perfectly with Safari.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> So, this plugs in to Safari then?  Must check it out.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Many of you have tried ZCaptcha over the past 7 months since its release.
>> 
>> Another captcha solving service has come to my attention in the past 
>> month, called Rumola. For those who have not used it, basically it is a 
>> browser plugin that automatically fills captchas when it finds one on a 
>> page.
>> 
>> I installed it on March 26 and have been using it since then. Every time 
>> I"m on a form with a captcha, I can't say how surprised I am every time 
>> I reach the captcha field and it is already filled in.
>> 
>> I have no intention of getting into browser plugins. I developed 
>> something in a time when there wasn't much available for the Mac, 
>> according to the resources I had available. However, I admit that Rumola 
>> is a better service, and for me has been 100% accurate in the time I 
>> have used it.
>> 
>> I really have no interest in continuing to develop and improve ZCaptcha, 
>> especially because I'm so happy using Rumola.
>> 
>> Right now I'm focused on my cloud Web hosting, so I really don't have 
>> time to work on much else.
>> 
>> Anyway, ZCaptcha is still active and still being used by some, but I'm 
>> just saying publicly that there will be no updates to it, and that I 
>> would recommend Rumola from now on.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> God bless,
>> Brandon Olivares
>> Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd
>> 
>> Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good 
>> pleasure to give you the kingdom.”
>> 
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Re: Type2Phone free this weekend

[Kaare Dehard]

Hi there, had the same troubles. I approached it from the mac side of things. I 
asked the mac from the bluetooth menu to set up the device. two go-m's will get 
you to the extras menu. From blootooth menu, just go to setup device. When the 
iPhone is detected select. You will hear a pairing request from the iOS device 
which needs to be given the okay from the device but it should work out 
alright. Got mine working like that.
On 2013-04-21, at 8:30 AM, Yolanda  wrote:

> On 4/20/2013 6:46 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> I'm loving it so far.
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Stacey,
>>> 
>>> I'm glad to hear that! If you need anymore help, don't hesitate to ask. It 
>>> really is a fantastic app.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Rachel,
 I got things going this morning.
 Totally cool.
 
 On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
 
> Activate a text field on your phone, turn quick Nav off on your mac, and 
> be in the Type2Phone app. You should be good to go and able to type.
> 
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stacey Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
>> I now have my phone and mac comunicating. How do I start doing things 
>> with it now.
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> I can't seem to get my mac running sl to pair with my phone.
>>> What are the steps I need to take.
>>> Stacey
>>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 Type2Phone lets your Mac act like a bluetooth keyboard for your iOS 
 device. You just pair the two machines, then it automatically sets 
 everything up and is ready to go whenever you cmd-tab into the app. 
 There are even menu items to issue special commands for Voiceover, and 
 the app is fully accessible. It is normally $4.99, but is currently 
 free. Just open the Mac App Store and search for Type2phone, no 
 spaces, the number 2. I have no idea if there's a Windows version. 
 Enjoy.
 
 
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Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Paul,
sounds to me like a bug in OS X 10.7 Lion. All you have to do is finding a way 
to copy a file or a folder to the root. Then Lion can open the Volume. Or you 
upgreat to Mountain Lion. 
All the best
Jürgen

Am 21.04.2013 um 11:51 schrieb Chris Gilland :

> Paul,
> 
> You're doing everything I would have done with one suggestion.  Have you gone 
> into Disk Utility and tried to repair/verify the disk, and its permissions?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Erkens" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:58 AM
> Subject: finder crashes when opening external disk
> 
> 
> Dear listers,
> 
> I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is mac 
> os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go to 
> this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume icon 
> on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the desktop, but 
> my wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or cancel. I cannot 
> reach this window myself using command accent, nor with vo twice f1, nor by 
> turning vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error window, then yes I 
> can see it with vo.
> 
> While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files from 
> the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create those 
> from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.
> 
> This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal since, 
> but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, VoiceOver 
> says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read the 
> previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find out 
> how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem.
> 
> I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the external 
> drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a period. 
> According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder crashes when 
> opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in finder, but 
> that command crashes finder as well, when I type in /volumes/macserver1. 
> macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.
> 
> Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is backing 
> it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that finder 
> has problems with it. Any advice?
> 
> Paul.
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Re: Type2Phone free this weekend

[Yolanda]

On 4/20/2013 6:46 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I'm loving it so far.

On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:


Hi Stacey,

I'm glad to hear that! If you need anymore help, don't hesitate to ask. It 
really is a fantastic app.

On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:


Rachel,
I got things going this morning.
Totally cool.

On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:


Activate a text field on your phone, turn quick Nav off on your mac, and be in 
the Type2Phone app. You should be good to go and able to type.

On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:


I now have my phone and mac comunicating. How do I start doing things with it 
now.

On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:


Hi Alex,
I can't seem to get my mac running sl to pair with my phone.
What are the steps I need to take.
Stacey

On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:


Hi all,
Type2Phone lets your Mac act like a bluetooth keyboard for your iOS device. You 
just pair the two machines, then it automatically sets everything up and is 
ready to go whenever you cmd-tab into the app. There are even menu items to 
issue special commands for Voiceover, and the app is fully accessible. It is 
normally $4.99, but is currently free. Just open the Mac App Store and search 
for Type2phone, no spaces, the number 2. I have no idea if there's a Windows 
version. Enjoy.


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Re: silver dollar app question.

[Jessica Moss]

Is there a scoring system with that game?  Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

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> That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
> the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it 
> is well worth the two dollars.
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>> I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
>> that was free, but when I clicked the "download app," option, it did 
>> nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found 
>> strange.  Does anyone know anything about this?
>> I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
>> nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
>> before I purchased the Mac version.
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Re: silver dollar app question.

[Jessica Moss]

Is there a podcast that I can here on it?  I liked the shooting part as well 
when I stumbled across it on the pin ball game and always hated to see it end 
sense for whatever reason I loved to here the stuff breaking and people 
screaming at the same time.

Sent from my iPhone

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> That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
> the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it 
> is well worth the two dollars.
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
>> that was free, but when I clicked the "download app," option, it did 
>> nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found 
>> strange.  Does anyone know anything about this?
>> I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
>> nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
>> before I purchased the Mac version.
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Re: silver dollar app question.

[Alex Hall]

That is odd. It's only for the Mac as far as I know. Personally, if only for 
the shooting game and to support development of Mac audio games, I think it is 
well worth the two dollars.
On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

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> was free, but when I clicked the "download app," option, it did nothing, and 
> the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found strange.  
> Does anyone know anything about this?
>  I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
> nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
> before I purchased the Mac version.
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Re: Apple Submenu

[Alex Hall]

It's happened to me as well, and I have no idea why. I've mostly noticed it in 
YoruFukurou, but it will sometimes happen in other apps as well. As you've 
found, interacting with the edit box stops it.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying "Apple 
> submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual characters in 
> simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder and then hit the 
> return key to rename it. then start typing the new name or cursor around in 
> there to edit wherever. Do not interact with this edit control yet. For me, I 
> keep hearing that phrase every time I move the cursor or type. Now if I 
> interact then it stops doing that. I also get this in TextEdit if I don't 
> interact there but that is obviously a place where I would always want to 
> interact. I've never had this situation in the past; has anyone here 
> experienced this? What could be causing VO to keep saying "Apple submenu" I 
> don't have any menus forced open or any of that.
> 
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Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 8 Topics

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
It's been a while since I bought the 1 terrabyte drive, but I think I paid 
about $100 at the Apple store. I was told I could go online and get one 
cheaper, but I didn't. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:35 PM, Chenelle Hancock  
wrote:

> How much does the new terabyte hi Drive cost to click into your MacBook Pro?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 20/04/2013, at 11:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
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>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>> 
>> How is VO in Logic with step time? [1 Update]
>> anti virus for my new mac [2 Updates]
>> silver dollar app question. [1 Update]
>> Help with VMWare Fusion [3 Updates]
>> flack conversion? [2 Updates]
>> How to find ideal screen resolution (vmware) [1 Update]
>> Skype [1 Update]
>> Regarding ZCaptcha [14 Updates]
>>  How is VO in Logic with step time?
>> Tom Frank  Apr 20 11:06PM -0400  
>> 
>> Does Logic's step time entry work well with Voice Over? I want to write down 
>> my compositions, but, since moving completely away from Windows, I haven't 
>> found any music notation software that works with the Mac. 
>> Tom Frank
>> vermonttom@gmail.c
>>  
>>  anti virus for my new mac
>> Katey Glass  Apr 20 10:14PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hello All,
>>  
>> I'm new here & new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
>> Woodbridge & Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
>> BTW. 
>>  
>> Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use? Do you use 
>> Avast? I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
>> with the mac. I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things 
>> from the net, like Skype. 
>>  
>> I'm slowly getting there. Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
>> downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
>> click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next. I somehow 
>> found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a cancel 
>> option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the doctor's. So, 
>> that leads me to my next question, when downloading something from the net, 
>> how do we access it? I think silverlight is some sort of plug in and not 
>> something that I'm likely to need again but I know I want skype and some 
>> antivirus. so, I've guessed that there is a different process from 
>> downloading things from the App Store as I did the type2phone successfully 
>> and going through Safari to download things. 
>>  
>> Thanks in advance. 
>>  
>> Katey 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad
>>  
>> Ray Foret Jr  Apr 20 09:26PM -0500  
>> 
>> I'd go for ClamxaV. Here's another tip. Download it directly from the 
>> developer's site and not from the app store. Why? The app store version does 
>> not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
>> you've set it up that way. Easy to understand and fully accessible.
>>  
>>  
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>  
>>  
>>  silver dollar app question.
>> Jessica Moss  Apr 20 10:04PM -0400  
>> 
>> I found a supposed Silver Dollar app for the IPhone through the Via app, 
>> that was free, but when I clicked the "download app," option, it did 
>> nothing, and the Applevis reviews showed it only as a Mac app, which I found 
>> strange. Does anyone know anything about this?
>> I find this really strange that I found this as a free IPhone app, but 
>> nothing seems to be available, and I was really excited about trying it out 
>> before I purchased the Mac version.
>>  
>>  Help with VMWare Fusion
>> Yolanda Thompson  Apr 20 06:03PM -0600  
>> 
>> Ok, I got it installed--vmware that is--and I cannot figure out how to
>> launch the
>> window below the toolbar that brings me into windows. Then, when I
>> hit alt-f4 in
>> the windows it throws me out to the mac screen and I cannot get back.
>> And, how on earth dos everyone find out the keystrokes for mac apps? I have 
>> not
>> had luck.
>> HELP! LOL
>>  
>> Kliphton A M  Apr 20 07:10PM -0500  
>> 
>> I could help you better by skype or over the phone, what works better for 
>> you? My info is in my signature.
>> 
>> Kliphton Senior
>> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com
>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
>>  
>>  
>> "Phil Halton"  Apr 20 09:54PM -0400  
>> 
>> I was hoping you'd answer onlist as I have long wanted to have those same 
>> questions answered. that is, after all, what the list is for.
>>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Kliphton A M 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Help with VMWare Fusion
>>  
>>  
>> I could help you better by

pdf files when in a web site

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys 
Someone may have addressed this somewhere, but I can't remember. If you're in a 
web site and you want to look at a pdf file, is there a way to tell Safari that 
you want to use Preview instead of Adobe Acrobat Reader. Somewhere along the 
way I got Adobe Reader on my Mac, and I guess I should really take it off so I 
don't end up with what might as well be a blank screen if I call up a pdf file. 
I suppose I could save the file out and then reload it again in Preview, but it 
would be nice not to need to do that. 

Regards,
Gigi


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Re: anti virus for my new mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

go here:

http://www.clamxav.com


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> Hi,
> What is the url for the developer of Clamxavs web site?
> /Krister
> 
> 21 apr 2013 kl. 04:26 skrev Ray Foret Jr :
> 
>> I'd go for ClamxaV.  Here's another tip.  Download it directly from the 
>> developer's site and not from the app store.  Why?  The app store version 
>> does not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
>> you've set it up that way.  Easy to understand and fully accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I'm new here & new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
>>> Woodbridge & Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
>>> BTW.  
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use?  Do you use 
>>> Avast?  I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
>>> with the mac.  I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things 
>>> from the net, like Skype.  
>>> 
>>> I'm slowly getting there.  Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
>>> downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
>>> click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next.  I 
>>> somehow found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a 
>>> cancel option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the 
>>> doctor's.  So, that leads me to my next question, when downloading 
>>> something from the net, how do we access it?  I think silverlight is some 
>>> sort of plug in and not something that I'm likely to need again but I know 
>>> I want skype and some antivirus.  so, I've guessed that there is a 
>>> different process from downloading things from the App Store as I did the 
>>> type2phone successfully and going through Safari to download things.  
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.  
>>> 
>>> Katey 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: finder crashes when opening external disk

[Chris Gilland]

Paul,

You're doing everything I would have done with one suggestion.  Have you 
gone into Disk Utility and tried to repair/verify the disk, and its 
permissions?


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Erkens" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: finder crashes when opening external disk


Dear listers,

I have a Western Digital 1tb drive attached to my mac. Its file system is 
mac os extended, journaled, so that should all be fine. However, when I go 
to this drive in finder, by simply hitting command down arrow on its volume 
icon on the desktop, finder crashes. Voiceover says I'm still on the 
desktop, but my wife says she sees a window with 2 buttons: reopen, or 
cancel. I cannot reach this window myself using command accent, nor with vo 
twice f1, nor by turning vo off and back on. If my wife clicks the error 
window, then yes I can see it with vo.


While googling, I found a solution that advises to delete all mac files from 
the root. I think they mean, delete all dot files and let os10 create those 
from scratch. But I have no way to get into the drive.


This is a fresh mac os10 installation, and I haven't been in terminal since, 
but when I open terminal and then press my braille display up key, VoiceOver 
says last login, and then a date. I should normally be able to read the 
previous line in terminal, i.e. the result of my commands. I need to find 
out how to get terminal on its feet again, but that's a different problem.


I'm hoping to find a way to solve this finder crash when opening the 
external drive, starting by deleting the files on its root that start with a 
period. According to a post I found on the net, that may solve finder 
crashes when opening an external drive. I tried command g, go to folder in 
finder, but that command crashes finder as well, when I type in 
/volumes/macserver1. macserver1 is the volume label of the external drive.


Any ideas? What can I do to let finder open this drive? CrashPlan is backing 
it up just fine, so it should be accessible to the os. It's just that finder 
has problems with it. Any advice?


Paul.

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Re: SOS with Pages

[Daniela Rubio]

Well, that is also a good idea, but I think that I rather create it after I 
finish, but we could also try to create it first and let it update as we place 
headings.
Thank you and keep in touch.
Best

Daniela Rubio T
 Distinguished Educator
iPhone: +34662328507






El 21/04/2013, a las 00:39, Tim Kilburn  escribió:

> Hi,
> 
> Glad to help.  I'm guessing that the logic behind this is that Pages looks 
> after the cursor position when creating the Table of Contents.  Another way 
> around this may be to tell Pages to create a Table of Contents on the first 
> page before you start entering anything on your paper.  Then it should simply 
> create those Table of Contents entries as you all the text.  Any changes 
> should just be live updated as you type and create specific headings.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-04-20, at 4:25 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Thank you so so much! These are the curious things about Apple 
>> Software! Some how I was trying for the first time to place a table of con 
>> ten at the end of the document indeed, but all of the other times I had 
>> place it at the beginning.
>> The page break idea is just great!
>> Have a good weekend and thanks again!
>> Best
>> 
>> Daniela Rubio T
>> iPhone: +34662328507
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> El 20/04/2013, a las 23:49, Tim Kilburn  escribió:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Try to move your cursor to the very top of the document, using your arrow 
>>> keys.  Once at the very top, insert a Page Break from the Insert menu then 
>>> arrow up again so that your cursor is in the first blank page.  Now, go up 
>>> to the Insert menu and choose Table of Contents.  It should put all your 
>>> items on that first page.  When I was testing and testing this, if my 
>>> cursor was at the end of the document, I got the same error as you but when 
>>> I moved it to the top, everything worked as it should.  I placed the Page 
>>> Break above the original first page of the document so that the body of the 
>>> text would start on a new page after the Table of Contents.
>>> 
>>> A couple things to note though, the Table of Contents does not read 
>>> properly with VO from within Pages.  I printed a pdf copy from the Print 
>>> dialog and looked at the Table of Contents in Single page mode from within 
>>> Preview and it seemed correct.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-20, at 1:02 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all:
 Let's see if somebody can solve this mystery, I just can't!!!
 I am doing a document in pages, where I use Heading level 1 for all the 
 subtitles. I Know that when you select heading level 1 for the section 
 tittles or subtitles, a table of content is created from them when you 
 insert it from the insert menu.
 Now, I do it, I know that all my subtitles are with the heading and when I 
 insert the table, it says that it is empty, because the document doesn't 
 use any of the paragraph stiles selected in the Document tab of the 
 inspector.
 I tried doing all I can, even reopening Pages, but nothing. It is very 
 important that I hand in that document on Monday, buy I am still fighting 
 with this.
 Thank you very much for all you could suggest.
 Best, 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 iPhone: +34662328507
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: anti virus for my new mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
What is the url for the developer of Clamxavs web site?
/Krister

21 apr 2013 kl. 04:26 skrev Ray Foret Jr :

> I'd go for ClamxaV.  Here's another tip.  Download it directly from the 
> developer's site and not from the app store.  Why?  The app store version 
> does not come with Clam Century which activly monitors all your folders once 
> you've set it up that way.  Easy to understand and fully accessible.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I'm new here & new to mac, but have been working my way through David 
>> Woodbridge & Mike (from how to be blind) Podcast series, both are excellent 
>> BTW.  
>> 
>> Anyway, I was wanting to know which antivirus program you use?  Do you use 
>> Avast?  I saw that was recommended in a magazine I saw for getting started 
>> with the mac.  I'd like to be protected before I start downloading things 
>> from the net, like Skype.  
>> 
>> I'm slowly getting there.  Last week I think I was nearly successful at 
>> downloading silverlight to fill out some forms for my doctor, I was able to 
>> click on the download now icon, but I don't know what to do next.  I somehow 
>> found that I'd tried to download it 3 times, but since there was a cancel 
>> option I did that and just had them help me when I got to the doctor's.  So, 
>> that leads me to my next question, when downloading something from the net, 
>> how do we access it?  I think silverlight is some sort of plug in and not 
>> something that I'm likely to need again but I know I want skype and some 
>> antivirus.  so, I've guessed that there is a different process from 
>> downloading things from the App Store as I did the type2phone successfully 
>> and going through Safari to download things.  
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.  
>> 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Transmit, or cute FTP which is better?

[Steve Holmes]

I wasn't aware of a Mac version of CuteFTP. I never liked the one for windows. 
I use Transmit on the Mac and love it. Dunno about Cute on the Mac.

On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jeffry Miller  wrote:

> Yes, I was just wondering, which is better to use, transmit, or cute FTP? I 
> am trying both of them, but can't seem to find how to get the list of sites 
> in the cute FTP one. Are there any tutorials or anything on Cute FTP
> 
> Jeffry miller
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