Re: Pages and dates
I think that they will fix a lot of issues, or so I hope, because I am sure that these reports are not just coming from the accessibility side. If you see it carefully, there are not so many things to do, just bring back the behavior with all kinds of fields, dates and hot keys. So it is not that they need to change their design completely, just to bring back what they lost. What I think they did, es simplify the mac version in order for it to be compatible with iOS, which is not bad, but they should still have other options for mac users. Lets say: if you use those options, may be they could warn you that they will not be compatible for iOS, but one can decide. Just some thoughts about it … I am sad, hope to be happy again with Pages. Keynote and Numbers are just good. Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 29/10/2013, a las 21:28, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com escribió: Hi, I was under the impression that Office did not work with VO. Is this not correct? Max. On 29/10/2013, at 5:09 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Tim, Yes, the old iWork was still there after the update to Mavericks, but my problem is that I have to teach iWork and anyone getting a new Mac will have the new versions of the applications. I’ve reported all the problems I’ve found so far using the facility from within Pages and directly to Accessibility. I’ve been defending iWork as a viable alternative to MS Office ever since it became accessible with iWork09, but as it stands, I can no longer do that. iWork is no longer a serious office suite for anyone running a business. Even just a few days after the release of the new versions of the apps, there were hundreds of criticisms on the Apple discussion boards. I hope Apple takes note and does something about it quickly before they lose a lot of customers. Cheers, Anne On 29 Oct 2013, at 00:02, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne, I was reading up on some Pages issues and you’re not alone in your frustration with Mail Merge fields and such. I noticed that when upgrading from iWork 09 to the new Pages and such that my old version of iWork 09 remained on my Mac in my Applications folder. Yours should have done the same since you were running from a older CD install of iWork. If you didn’t already get rid of it, you are able to run the Pages 4.3 in Mavericks as well and the Mail Merge functionality is still there. If not, you should still be able to re-install it from your original CD then have both usable copies of Pages. Not the best way of running things but may help with some of the lost features that you were accustomed to. Beyond that, it appears that quite a number of people have been letting Apple know their disappointment with these feature losses and maybe they will re-instate them in a future update. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: I’m going through my teaching materials for Pages and finding problems. The latest one is that we can no longer modify the date style in a document using a contextual menu. Pages takes the date style from System preferences/LanguageRegion/Advanced where it uses the Full version of the date. We can copy whatever style of date we like into that field, but this is really irritating as, speaking for myself, I don’t always want to use the same format. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group
Re: Observation with voice on Mavericks
Hi Nick. In your Mackintosh HD volume which should be located on the desktop, go to system, library, speech, voices, and delete the Karen voice that way. HTH. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Shawn! And how do I delete it? Is it just a matter of unchecking the checkbox for the voice, restarting and checking it again? Or do I need to find where the files are stored and delete those? Thanks for your help, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mac Calender (Openning Events)
Hi All, I used to be able to use the Command O command to open events in the Calendar, be that to edit them, add to them etc, and also the Command Delete to delete them etc. Now though none of this is working since my upgrade to Mavericks, has anyone got any specific on how to use Calendar now and what might be going on for me? Many thanks! Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
finder busy in large folders and can't create new users
Hi Alll, I have tested a problem that some are having with finder busy and it only happens when you get to a folder with large amounts of files in it it wont access it properly and all I get is finder busy in coliumn view but it doesn't happen in list view, this only happens with folders with large amounts of files in it smaller folder do not have a finder busy issue. The second issue is when I tried to create a test acount after entering all info and pressing the create account it throw me out and comes up with an error message I have had another persion test both of these and he is having both issues . Has anyone else had both of these issues please let me know and report to apple so we can get them to rectify them in the next update. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype and Twitter : deanadams9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: to the person having bookshare problems
Thanks, but they always have worked for me, and in fact, those I never opened before do work, while others that I have read before do not. Christine On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:47 PM, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote: If you are trying to open .xml files on saphari this never works for me. I have to switch the extension to .html, and they work everytime. Alia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pleading, begging and groveling for hhelp once again: bookshare troubles
Awesome idea, Greg, . . . but unfortunately, it did not work. I do not know what the heck is going on here. Christine On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote: Just a thought: Several of us had a similar problem a while ago. The fix was to go into the Preferences in Safari, choose the Advanced tab, and then check the box that says Show Develop menu. Then, go into the Develop menu from the menu bar and select Disable Local File Restrictions. For whatever reason, the default was to not allow local files to be opened in safari. Hope this helps. -Greg On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: Good day/night all. I have written to bookshare support about this twice, but surprisingly for bookshare, no one has gotten back to me. Since the reinstallation of ML on my MacBook, I cannot open bookshare titles which I previously read. Unread files open fine, but those I had already opened are registering as empty html. I erased all of the files of one of these books, then redownloaded to see if this would make a difference. It did not. I do have the book in Read2Go and in Voice Dream, but there does not appear to be a way to sync it to my MacBook using iTunes. Since I need it for lesson planning with my students and reading it with them in class, I cannot use Read2Go; I must have it on my MacBook. If anyone can suggest a reason for this issue and a workaround, I would appreciate it. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: finder busy in large folders and can't create new users
I can duplicate both of these issues. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alll, I have tested a problem that some are having with finder busy and it only happens when you get to a folder with large amounts of files in it it wont access it properly and all I get is finder busy in coliumn view but it doesn't happen in list view, this only happens with folders with large amounts of files in it smaller folder do not have a finder busy issue. The second issue is when I tried to create a test acount after entering all info and pressing the create account it throw me out and comes up with an error message I have had another persion test both of these and he is having both issues . Has anyone else had both of these issues please let me know and report to apple so we can get them to rectify them in the next update. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype and Twitter : deanadams9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: finder busy in large folders and can't create new users
Hi there When I was still in Mavericks, one way I found to get out of Finer busy without completely force quitting was to press control command eseape, and then press the carriage return a couple of times. This resulted, in my case, of not force quitting but getting Finer out of busy. The other thing I found was once I opened a window I needed, I didn't close it, but went from window to window in Finer with command accent sign. I found I didn't get Finer busy so much as long as I didn't try to set up new windows in Finer. You might try some of these things and see if it helps. Regards, Gigi On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alll, I have tested a problem that some are having with finder busy and it only happens when you get to a folder with large amounts of files in it it wont access it properly and all I get is finder busy in coliumn view but it doesn't happen in list view, this only happens with folders with large amounts of files in it smaller folder do not have a finder busy issue. The second issue is when I tried to create a test acount after entering all info and pressing the create account it throw me out and comes up with an error message I have had another persion test both of these and he is having both issues . Has anyone else had both of these issues please let me know and report to apple so we can get them to rectify them in the next update. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype and Twitter : deanadams9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Undocking the sound on the Mac.
Hi. Please could someone tell me how I can undock my sound when using the Mac please? I looked in ‘Sound preferences and could find nothing. Thanks. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Undocking the sound on the Mac.
hi friend . vo f8 voice over utility, sound tab. cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames
Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9. When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the main frame Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it the second time. Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and disabling Live Regions also has no effect. Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu frame). Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would like to avoid.) Thanks for any assistance you may provide! Lou/BlindMacMan. Golden Gate Guards GGG Web/Post Master. www.ggguards.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Undocking the sound on the Mac.
Thank you very much for that. I never thought to look in there. On 30 Oct 2013, at 14:53, mario navarro mario@gmail.com wrote: hi friend . vo f8 voice over utility, sound tab. cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
Listers, I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit and arrow up and down the text. Has anyone else noticed it as well? Look forward to your experiences/tips. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Stopping VO Speech
Hello, I am having a bit of trouble with stopping VO when it gets too verbose. I am running Mavericks on a 2012 MacBookPro with Retina. Whenever I try and stop VO from talking by pressing the Control key nothing happens. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be. I have already tried resetting VO to the defaults but this doesn’t change the behavior . Thanks for any help, Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Stopping VO Speech
Using an imac and mavericks, I've seen this but it'snot consistent. Sometimes control will work, but it's sluggish. Don - Original Message - From: Scott Rumery blindfait...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05 am Subject: Stopping VO Speech Hello, I am having a bit of trouble with stopping VO when it gets too verbose. I am running Mavericks on a 2012 MacBookPro with Retina. Whenever I try and stop VO from talking by pressing the Control key nothing happens. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be. I have already tried resetting VO to the defaults but this doesn't change the behavior . Thanks for any help, Scott Rumery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mac Calender (Openning Events)
Hi, • To edit the event, try cmd-i to Get Info. • To delete an event is not as nice with VO. You’re supposed to be able to click on the event then press the Delete key, but this is less than useful with VO. I was able to delete an event by selecting it then going up to the Edit menu and choosing Delete. Not as pleasant but workable. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Hi All, I used to be able to use the Command O command to open events in the Calendar, be that to edit them, add to them etc, and also the Command Delete to delete them etc. Now though none of this is working since my upgrade to Mavericks, has anyone got any specific on how to use Calendar now and what might be going on for me? Many thanks! Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mac Calender (Openning Events)
Tim, What you describe has always been the default behaviour. I have always found the calendar in Mountain Lion difficult on the Mac. However, I don’t know if it’s improved under Mavericks. It’s better on IOS7 but you can’t get rid of birthdays especially if they came from MSN messenger as I have birthdays in my calendar from people when I was using Linctin. Kawal. On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:12, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, • To edit the event, try cmd-i to Get Info. • To delete an event is not as nice with VO. You’re supposed to be able to click on the event then press the Delete key, but this is less than useful with VO. I was able to delete an event by selecting it then going up to the Edit menu and choosing Delete. Not as pleasant but workable. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Hi All, I used to be able to use the Command O command to open events in the Calendar, be that to edit them, add to them etc, and also the Command Delete to delete them etc. Now though none of this is working since my upgrade to Mavericks, has anyone got any specific on how to use Calendar now and what might be going on for me? Many thanks! Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames
The more things like this we report to Apple, the more they will have to fix them. accessibil...@apple.com Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:17 AM, blindmac...@mac.com wrote: Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9. When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the main frame Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it the second time. Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and disabling Live Regions also has no effect. Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu frame). Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would like to avoid.) Thanks for any assistance you may provide! Lou/BlindMacMan. Golden Gate Guards GGG Web/Post Master. www.ggguards.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
How does one reset the Pram again? I seem always to forget that. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Andrew, I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always interact with the text and Find commands work correctly. Have you repaired permissions lately? Also, resetting the PRAM can also fix weird problems. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:44, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Listers, I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit and arrow up and down the text. Has anyone else noticed it as well? Look forward to your experiences/tips. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames
Hi Lou, I can confirm your findings. Here’s what I do to get around this for now. 1. After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach an item in the other frame. 2. If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it. This is where things get inconsistent. Sometimes, I can Interact with whatever I’ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I’d like. It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item Chooser, most of the elements aren’t being noticed by VO. If you tab though, they are workable, but not really in a VO way. What I mean here, is that using VO commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS commands like tab and return will perform the task. I’ve also noticed that, only sometimes, a Refresh of the page will help. So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given you half-baked work-arounds. Hope it helped a little. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:17 AM, blindmac...@mac.com wrote: Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9. When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the main frame Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it the second time. Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and disabling Live Regions also has no effect. Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu frame). Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would like to avoid.) Thanks for any assistance you may provide! Lou/BlindMacMan. Golden Gate Guards GGG Web/Post Master. www.ggguards.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
Hello Ray, To reset the PRAM, shut down your computer, then hold down the following four keys: Command, Option, letter p and letter r. With these held down, press the Power key once and keep the other four keys held down until you’ve heard the start up chime four times. Let go and the machine will boot as usual. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:30, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: How does one reset the Pram again? I seem always to forget that. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Andrew, I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always interact with the text and Find commands work correctly. Have you repaired permissions lately? Also, resetting the PRAM can also fix weird problems. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:44, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Listers, I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit and arrow up and down the text. Has anyone else noticed it as well? Look forward to your experiences/tips. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mac Calender (Openning Events)
Hi, What’s likely happening with the birthdays, is that you don’t have permission to edit/delete them. When events come to your calendar from an outside source such as FaceBook, Linctin etc, then you don’t have edit privileges for that item, just read privileges. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Tim, What you describe has always been the default behaviour. I have always found the calendar in Mountain Lion difficult on the Mac. However, I don’t know if it’s improved under Mavericks. It’s better on IOS7 but you can’t get rid of birthdays especially if they came from MSN messenger as I have birthdays in my calendar from people when I was using Linctin. Kawal. On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:12, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, • To edit the event, try cmd-i to Get Info. • To delete an event is not as nice with VO. You’re supposed to be able to click on the event then press the Delete key, but this is less than useful with VO. I was able to delete an event by selecting it then going up to the Edit menu and choosing Delete. Not as pleasant but workable. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 3:52 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote: Hi All, I used to be able to use the Command O command to open events in the Calendar, be that to edit them, add to them etc, and also the Command Delete to delete them etc. Now though none of this is working since my upgrade to Mavericks, has anyone got any specific on how to use Calendar now and what might be going on for me? Many thanks! Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
Hi guys Bad news! We don't know it, but when we select text in TextEdit in Mavericks, it might be selected and we don't know it. Just before Apple put me back to Mountain Lion, I was on the Remote Advisor screen, and I showed the Apple representative under TextEdit (rtf file, that is). I said I couldn't delete anything. That wasn't the thing, he told me. It would delete just fine, but VoiceOver wasn't saying things right. I had selected them, and when he told me, I deleted the text I wanted to take out. The braille display that I helped to make worse and TextEdit problems are why I was put back into Mountain Lion. I have to have TextEdit for my work. ;the frustrating thing is, I really need the update for Numbers. I found it to be better than the old one. Regards, Gigi who used to break programs for Freedom Scientific and who is now happily breaking them for Apple now On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Listers, I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit and arrow up and down the text. Has anyone else noticed it as well? Look forward to your experiences/tips. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
On a similar note, when I use Text Edit, I’m noticing that I can’t open a big folder anymore. All Voiceover says is browser when I tap the right arrow to go in the folder. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Ray, To reset the PRAM, shut down your computer, then hold down the following four keys: Command, Option, letter p and letter r. With these held down, press the Power key once and keep the other four keys held down until you’ve heard the start up chime four times. Let go and the machine will boot as usual. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:30, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: How does one reset the Pram again? I seem always to forget that. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Andrew, I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always interact with the text and Find commands work correctly. Have you repaired permissions lately? Also, resetting the PRAM can also fix weird problems. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:44, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com wrote: Listers, I am having problems with rtf files in TextEdit and iText express. Whilst I used to be able to read them and edit them by using just arrow keys in Mountain Lion, in Maverick, I don't seem to be able to do this. I have to interact with the text area to be able to read by line but then I can't delete text or look for text with find facility. The same is true of iText express. I thought Pages might do it so I have just purchased it and what a disappointment! Pages won't even see rtf files in my folders. Disaster! I had to convert rtf to txt format in order to get back to being able to edit and arrow up and down the text. Has anyone else noticed it as well? Look forward to your experiences/tips. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
Hello Gigi, I’m using TextEdit under Mavericks and when I select text, VoiceOver says the text followed by “highlighted”. I interact with the text so that the VO commands will work. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:16, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys Bad news! We don't know it, but when we select text in TextEdit in Mavericks, it might be selected and we don't know it. Just before Apple put me back to Mountain Lion, I was on the Remote Advisor screen, and I showed the Apple representative under TextEdit (rtf file, that is). I said I couldn't delete anything. That wasn't the thing, he told me. It would delete just fine, but VoiceOver wasn't saying things right. I had selected them, and when he told me, I deleted the text I wanted to take out. The braille display that I helped to make worse and TextEdit problems are why I was put back into Mountain Lion. I have to have TextEdit for my work. ;the frustrating thing is, I really need the update for Numbers. I found it to be better than the old one. Regards, Gigi who used to break programs for Freedom Scientific and who is now happily breaking them for Apple now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
Thanks Anne. I am glad to hear it. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that I had my Braille Edge 40 on there before I supidly took it off. VoiceOver refused to recognize any braille displays after that, and I seemed to be having some terrible navigation issues. So maybe this relates to something on my computer and not something in general. I still have an open case, so as soon as I can, I am going to call Apple back and see what's what. Regards, Gigi On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Gigi, I’m using TextEdit under Mavericks and when I select text, VoiceOver says the text followed by “highlighted”. I interact with the text so that the VO commands will work. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:16, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi guys Bad news! We don't know it, but when we select text in TextEdit in Mavericks, it might be selected and we don't know it. Just before Apple put me back to Mountain Lion, I was on the Remote Advisor screen, and I showed the Apple representative under TextEdit (rtf file, that is). I said I couldn't delete anything. That wasn't the thing, he told me. It would delete just fine, but VoiceOver wasn't saying things right. I had selected them, and when he told me, I deleted the text I wanted to take out. The braille display that I helped to make worse and TextEdit problems are why I was put back into Mountain Lion. I have to have TextEdit for my work. ;the frustrating thing is, I really need the update for Numbers. I found it to be better than the old one. Regards, Gigi who used to break programs for Freedom Scientific and who is now happily breaking them for Apple now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
Hi! To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys. Best Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 19:34, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com escribió: Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Converting outlook express mail to apple mail.
Sent from my iPhoneHey guys, I have a curious question. And, you can answer me here, or off list or you can message me on facebook or text my number, 334 296 3558, whichever is easiest because I need to know soon. I have a patron who is trying to convert his outlook mail to apple mail with no success. Does anybody have any idea how to perform this and if so, which direction can I point him. Thanks and take care. If you me/sage me on facebook or text me just let me know who you are. Thanks andtalk. toyou. soon,like. I said I didn't know how to get answers quickly andI. don't have time just to monitor the list. Thanksand. takecare. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
Hi, I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing your frustration. Note the following when in Day View: 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for today’s events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into and the other is the more editable List of Events Table. 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events easily. To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get Info) or cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same window. To delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and follow the prompt. When I posted in Neil’s question, I was in Month view so it was not as easy as in Day view. 3. When you Interact with the Month Grid, you can quickly whip around through the month and VO will announce if the specific day has any events in it. You can drill down into that day while in the Month Grid and use VO navigation to hear the events and can press cmd-i to edit it if you wish. If you decide to delete it,, it’s easier, in my opinion, to navigate to the List of Events Table and delete it from there. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Disk Maker X
Hi, I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without going to force quit. How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts
On 10/29/13, Rebecca Sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I use a mack pro computer with voice over. What are you trying to do with your computer if I can help let me know. Becky Sabo On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Have you switched the FN key from the default? If not, press FN-Ctrl-F2. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 23:28, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris. I don’t know why, but my system bonks every time I try using the control+F2 command. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Open the menu bar - control f2 open the dock - control f3 open the status menu (Lion) and extras menu (Mountain Lion or later) - control f8 These work even with VoiceOver off. -- E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
Hello Kawal, In Calendar, have you tried using the command VO-Cmd-x to go to Next List? Also, when you want to find a command, try doing VO-h-h to get the complete list of VO commands. You’ll be amazed at what you find. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:34, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
Hi, I forgot to mention that cmd-right arrow goes to the next day, cmd-left arrow for Previous day, and cmd-t for going directly to Today if you’re somewhere else in the calendar of events. I believe that the cmd-right and cmd-left will morph accordingly if you change to Week, Month or Year views. Later… Hi, I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing your frustration. Note the following when in Day View: 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for today’s events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into and the other is the more editable List of Events Table. 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events easily. To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get Info) or cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same window. To delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and follow the prompt. When I posted in Neil’s question, I was in Month view so it was not as easy as in Day view. 3. When you Interact with the Month Grid, you can quickly whip around through the month and VO will announce if the specific day has any events in it. You can drill down into that day while in the Month Grid and use VO navigation to hear the events and can press cmd-i to edit it if you wish. If you decide to delete it,, it’s easier, in my opinion, to navigate to the List of Events Table and delete it from there. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
No I haven’t Anne. Will give it a go. Thanks. Kawal. On 30 Oct 2013, at 20:05, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Kawal, In Calendar, have you tried using the command VO-Cmd-x to go to Next List? Also, when you want to find a command, try doing VO-h-h to get the complete list of VO commands. You’ll be amazed at what you find. Cheers, Anne On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:34, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Disk Maker X
Hi Daniel. Unfortunately, if you upgraded to Mavericks and you’re using Disk Maker X, you’ll need sighted assistance because it’s not accessible. I really hope that it’ll be fixed though. I already made my bootable drive last night with sighted help like I said. Sorry. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without going to force quit. How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Alternates to Apple Mail
MacWorld had an article which reviewed a dozen or so alternate mail apps to try if Apple Mail just won't cooperate. Not sure how many of them are accessible, but it's a start for those who are ready to jump ship. http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-you-can-try.html CB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Disk Maker X
Not a problem. I’ll just wait for a newer version of DiskMaker X and by then, I’m sure a new update to OS10 will be out and I can try making a boot disk again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Disk Maker X
I can’t even download the thing! When I click the link all I hear is a ding! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:13 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel. Unfortunately, if you upgraded to Mavericks and you’re using Disk Maker X, you’ll need sighted assistance because it’s not accessible. I really hope that it’ll be fixed though. I already made my bootable drive last night with sighted help like I said. Sorry. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without going to force quit. How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Disk Maker X
Hello all! I hope I can help you with this, here you have a very easy way to create a Bootable drive for Mavericks. Just, be sure to do exactly as it is and you will be amazed on how nice it is. 1. Download the installer for the OS and when prompted to install, just cancel the process. The installer will be an App on your Apps folder. 2. Rename the app exactly as: IM.app See that the name before the extension is in Capital letters. 3. Take a flash drive (8 GB minimum)and with Disk Utility, erase it and leave it as Untitled. Erase the name during the formatting process, or just do so with enter on it when you see it on your desktop. Make sure it is totally erased, no data at all. 4. Go to Terminal inside your Utilities folder, open it and paste the following command, making sure that there are not blanck lines or spaces in what you select to copy. Start of command* sudo /Applications/IM.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/IM.app --nointeraction End of command* 5. Write your password if you are asked to enter it, and the creation process will start. VoiceOver will read some things during it, and when it is finished, just close Terminal. 6. You will see that now your Flash drive will be named as Maverick installer or something like that. Ready, you now have your Booth-able drive to install the OS. The process is different, but you will magically get a great result without having to use any other resources. Please let me know if this works. Hope it helps! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 22:13, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com escribió: Hi Daniel. Unfortunately, if you upgraded to Mavericks and you’re using Disk Maker X, you’ll need sighted assistance because it’s not accessible. I really hope that it’ll be fixed though. I already made my bootable drive last night with sighted help like I said. Sorry. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without going to force quit. How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Disk Maker X
Hi Daniela. I have heard of doing it that way but I’m not too comfortable fooling around with Terminal just yet. If I have to make another bootable drive, I’ll just wait for an update to Disk Maker X. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I hope I can help you with this, here you have a very easy way to create a Bootable drive for Mavericks. Just, be sure to do exactly as it is and you will be amazed on how nice it is. 1. Download the installer for the OS and when prompted to install, just cancel the process. The installer will be an App on your Apps folder. 2. Rename the app exactly as: IM.app See that the name before the extension is in Capital letters. 3. Take a flash drive (8 GB minimum)and with Disk Utility, erase it and leave it as Untitled. Erase the name during the formatting process, or just do so with enter on it when you see it on your desktop. Make sure it is totally erased, no data at all. 4. Go to Terminal inside your Utilities folder, open it and paste the following command, making sure that there are not blanck lines or spaces in what you select to copy. Start of command* sudo /Applications/IM.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/IM.app --nointeraction End of command* 5. Write your password if you are asked to enter it, and the creation process will start. VoiceOver will read some things during it, and when it is finished, just close Terminal. 6. You will see that now your Flash drive will be named as Maverick installer or something like that. Ready, you now have your Booth-able drive to install the OS. The process is different, but you will magically get a great result without having to use any other resources. Please let me know if this works. Hope it helps! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 22:13, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com escribió: Hi Daniel. Unfortunately, if you upgraded to Mavericks and you’re using Disk Maker X, you’ll need sighted assistance because it’s not accessible. I really hope that it’ll be fixed though. I already made my bootable drive last night with sighted help like I said. Sorry. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without going to force quit. How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Disk Maker X
Don’t worry, you most not be afraid. You will not do anything wrong, just be sure to select the exact text from this e-mail, without spaces, paste the selection to Terminal as it opens and go for it! Cheers! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 22:55, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com escribió: Hi Daniela. I have heard of doing it that way but I’m not too comfortable fooling around with Terminal just yet. If I have to make another bootable drive, I’ll just wait for an update to Disk Maker X. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all! I hope I can help you with this, here you have a very easy way to create a Bootable drive for Mavericks. Just, be sure to do exactly as it is and you will be amazed on how nice it is. 1. Download the installer for the OS and when prompted to install, just cancel the process. The installer will be an App on your Apps folder. 2. Rename the app exactly as: IM.app See that the name before the extension is in Capital letters. 3. Take a flash drive (8 GB minimum)and with Disk Utility, erase it and leave it as Untitled. Erase the name during the formatting process, or just do so with enter on it when you see it on your desktop. Make sure it is totally erased, no data at all. 4. Go to Terminal inside your Utilities folder, open it and paste the following command, making sure that there are not blanck lines or spaces in what you select to copy. Start of command* sudo /Applications/IM.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/IM.app --nointeraction End of command* 5. Write your password if you are asked to enter it, and the creation process will start. VoiceOver will read some things during it, and when it is finished, just close Terminal. 6. You will see that now your Flash drive will be named as Maverick installer or something like that. Ready, you now have your Booth-able drive to install the OS. The process is different, but you will magically get a great result without having to use any other resources. Please let me know if this works. Hope it helps! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 22:13, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com escribió: Hi Daniel. Unfortunately, if you upgraded to Mavericks and you’re using Disk Maker X, you’ll need sighted assistance because it’s not accessible. I really hope that it’ll be fixed though. I already made my bootable drive last night with sighted help like I said. Sorry. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Daniel C topdog2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was trying out Disk Maker X, now that I’ve upgraded to Mavericks, and it says that it has no windows. I don’t seem to be able to quit it without going to force quit. How am I able to make a boot disk since Disk Maker X won’t work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
Dear Anne, You wrote: I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always interact with the text and Find commands work correctly Anne, thank you for responding. Maybe it has to do with my setup but I can't think what may be different. When I interact with the text, I can use vo + arrows to read the text and vo+shift + arrows to spell words but I can't use any of the editing commands like highlighting or deleting. I'm sorry to sound panicky but these rtf files are work-related and I got anxious as one would of course. The mac computer on which I have installed maverick is old but it used to run Mountain Lion successfully. I did an extensive search on the internet as regards which macs would run Maverick and the overwhelming impression I got from all the comments was that if one's computer could run mountain lion it should also run Maverick. That's why I have installed Maverick. I guess I just have to accept that I won't be able to edit rtf in TextEdit nor iText express now. Do you understand why Pages won't open or deal with rtf files? I thought Pages was a word processor that should be able to deal with a variety of existing formats. Also, Anne, when you interact with the text in TextEdit, I presume that you would interact by the usual way of vo+shift+down arrow. Can you then select text by using for instance shift+option + down arrow to select a line? Or are there different key strokes to select and manipulate text? Thank you for the time you took to respond to my woes. With best wishes Andrew On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:10, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics The Calendar is weird on the Mac. [6 Updates] Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts [1 Update] Disk Maker X [1 Update] Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. [1 Update] TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [8 Updates] Mac Calender (Openning Events) [3 Updates] Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames [2 Updates] Stopping VO Speech [2 Updates] The Calendar is weird on the Mac. Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Oct 30 06:34PM Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com Oct 30 07:37PM +0100 Hi! To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys. Best Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Oct 30 01:28PM -0600 Hi, I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing your frustration. Note the following when in Day View: 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for today’s events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into and the other is the more editable List of Events Table. 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events easily. To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get Info) or cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same window. To delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and follow the prompt. When I posted in Neil’s question, I was in Month view so it was not as easy as in Day view. 3. When you Interact with the Month Grid, you can quickly whip around through the month and VO will announce if the specific day has any events in it. You can drill down into that day while in the Month Grid and use VO navigation to hear the events and can press cmd-i to edit it if you wish. If you decide to delete it,, it’s easier, in my opinion, to
Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to
What happens to me, is that I can work correctly with textedit on page one, but when I go to page 2, VoiceOver won’t read with the regular commands. What can we do about? I already unchecked the page wrap. Thanks! Daniela Rubio T Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 30/10/2013, a las 23:03, Andrew Lamanche andrew.laman...@gmail.com escribió: Dear Anne, You wrote: I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always interact with the text and Find commands work correctly Anne, thank you for responding. Maybe it has to do with my setup but I can't think what may be different. When I interact with the text, I can use vo + arrows to read the text and vo+shift + arrows to spell words but I can't use any of the editing commands like highlighting or deleting. I'm sorry to sound panicky but these rtf files are work-related and I got anxious as one would of course. The mac computer on which I have installed maverick is old but it used to run Mountain Lion successfully. I did an extensive search on the internet as regards which macs would run Maverick and the overwhelming impression I got from all the comments was that if one's computer could run mountain lion it should also run Maverick. That's why I have installed Maverick. I guess I just have to accept that I won't be able to edit rtf in TextEdit nor iText express now. Do you understand why Pages won't open or deal with rtf files? I thought Pages was a word processor that should be able to deal with a variety of existing formats. Also, Anne, when you interact with the text in TextEdit, I presume that you would interact by the usual way of vo+shift+down arrow. Can you then select text by using for instance shift+option + down arrow to select a line? Or are there different key strokes to select and manipulate text? Thank you for the time you took to respond to my woes. With best wishes Andrew On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:10, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics The Calendar is weird on the Mac. [6 Updates] Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts [1 Update] Disk Maker X [1 Update] Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. [1 Update] TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [8 Updates] Mac Calender (Openning Events) [3 Updates] Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames [2 Updates] Stopping VO Speech [2 Updates] The Calendar is weird on the Mac. Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com Oct 30 06:34PM Hello All. I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar. At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down arrow which got me into my list of events. Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running. I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over may not have any. Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it. Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean. Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows you could do insert T for the title of application or document. I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in due course. I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it. Kawal. Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com Oct 30 07:37PM +0100 Hi! To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys. Best Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com Oct 30 01:28PM -0600 Hi, I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing your frustration. Note the following when in Day View: 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for today’s events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into and the other is the more editable List of Events Table. 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events easily. To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get Info) or cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same window. To delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and follow the prompt. When I posted in Neil’s question, I was in Month view so it
Re: Mac Calender (Openning Events)
I've always loved Calendar in Mountain Lion. It works really well for me. Deleting events with command-delete or editing them with command-e works fine. Along with Mail, it's one of my favourite Mac apps. I don't like the week or day views, but month view is great. I only played briefly with Calendar in Mavericks. It saddens me that so many great apps are taking backward steps in Mavericks. I'm trying to remain positive but it's getting difficult. Mountain Lion was a great upgrade; Mavericks, not so much. The list of issues is growing long; far too long for a 10.9.1 fix I think. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar
HI all, I just downloaded and tried the app Fantastical 2 on my iPhone. It’s currently half off right now. I’ve only played with it for around 20 minutes so this is my early take on the app. I like it a lot more than the apple calendar app, mostly because I now have access to month view this way. The app is way easy for me personally to use. So far, everything has been mostly accessible and understandable to me except for one area. This area is called the week view. You can switch the app to week view by turning your device to landscape view. I really don’t find this helpful as I can’t quite figure the layout out and I really just don’t need this feature. The app was super easy to set up and it gives a tiny bit of a tutorial on how to switch from ticker view to month view. I personally don’t care for or need the ticker view as I think this may be something more suitable to someone who is visual. I had the fantastical app before but this newer version is way better. I love that I can see my calendar events and my reminders all in one spot. Of course, my favorite thing was the month view, which was a must have for me. So, if you have an older version of Fantastical you will need to purchase Fantastical 2 and it’s on sale now for $2.99. I was upset about this as I already had purchased Fantastical a year ago but fifteen minutes after I downloaded the app, I am more than pleased with my $2.99 purchase. One thing I would find helpful is if in Calendar view when I touch a day instead of just saying October 30th 3 events, 1 reminder, I would love it to say Wednesday October 30th, 3 events, 1 reminder. :) This really is a small thing but it would just be a time saver instead of having to slide my finger up to see what day of the week a particular date falls on. :) The way it is now, it just requires a bit more brain power on my part. :) I do want to note that I do not use my Calendar app for anything fancy or complex. It’s mostly for the Family’s schedule and so I have not tested every aspect of the app but so far so good. :) I do share my calendar with my husband so that he will know what is going on and that part is working like a charm as well. :) I think it’s because everything is synced with apple’s Calendar and reminder apps. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames
Thanks Tim! At least you confirmed the problem... I was thinking I was having a major brain freeze. I will forward my findings to accessibil...@apple.com and I will check out your (sometimes possible) work arounds. Lou/BlindMacMan On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:42:00 AM UTC-7, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi Lou, I can confirm your findings. Here’s what I do to get around this for now. 1. After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach an item in the other frame. 2. If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it. This is where things get inconsistent. Sometimes, I can Interact with whatever I’ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I’d like. It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item Chooser, most of the elements aren’t being noticed by VO. If you tab though, they are workable, but not really in a VO way. What I mean here, is that using VO commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS commands like tab and return will perform the task. I’ve also noticed that, only sometimes, a Refresh of the page will help. So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given you half-baked work-arounds. Hope it helped a little. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:17 AM, blind...@mac.com wrote: Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9. When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the main frame Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it the second time. Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and disabling Live Regions also has no effect. Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu frame). Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would like to avoid.) Thanks for any assistance you may provide! Lou/BlindMacMan. Golden Gate Guards GGG Web/Post Master. www.ggguards.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Introducing myself, questions from a new mac user
Hi all, My name is Andrew. I am 23 and from Australia. I have recently switched from windows to the mac. I have had an IPhone for 2 years now, and liked the idea of the built in screen reader and having the same access as sighted people out of the box, without the need to buy or install any extra software! I have also been unimpressed with Jaws particularly with jaws 15, and the so called new features which are really improvements to what’s already there. I look forward to participating in this group and hopefully down the line, helping fellow new users. I have had help with a lot of things, I’ve found I need to relearn how to do everything all over again. It’s a challenge, but fun at the same time. I have some questions I would like some help with please. 1. I know how to copy from an external hard drive to the mac hard drive, but how do you copy between 2 locations on the mac hard drive itself? say how would I copy from downloads to my personal folder? 2. How do you attach files to emails, and save attachments? 3. What is the keystroke for receiving new email? Thanks in advance for any help, God bless, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Introducing myself, questions from a new mac user
1. Welcome. 2. copying is done within a Mac drive from one location to another in the same way you already know how to do it. Next. Attach files to e-mail message either with Shift+CMD+a or else you can do it via cutting and pasting the way I do. To get attachments from an e-mail, I use the file menu for that since I upgraded to 10.9. As for the hopt key for calling the server for new mail, I use Shift+Cmd+n. HTH. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, My name is Andrew. I am 23 and from Australia. I have recently switched from windows to the mac. I have had an IPhone for 2 years now, and liked the idea of the built in screen reader and having the same access as sighted people out of the box, without the need to buy or install any extra software! I have also been unimpressed with Jaws particularly with jaws 15, and the so called new features which are really improvements to what’s already there. I look forward to participating in this group and hopefully down the line, helping fellow new users. I have had help with a lot of things, I’ve found I need to relearn how to do everything all over again. It’s a challenge, but fun at the same time. I have some questions I would like some help with please. 1. I know how to copy from an external hard drive to the mac hard drive, but how do you copy between 2 locations on the mac hard drive itself? say how would I copy from downloads to my personal folder? 2. How do you attach files to emails, and save attachments? 3. What is the keystroke for receiving new email? Thanks in advance for any help, God bless, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar
Hi Christina, Upon your recommendations, I have purchased this app. I launched it and see all of my appointments. However, I cannot activate the settings option. I think I saw something indicating that he had to choose the day take her and then move down to the calendar option. I don't seem to be able to do that either. Can you assist in helping with setting this up? Thanks very much. Les Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote: HI all, I just downloaded and tried the app Fantastical 2 on my iPhone. It’s currently half off right now. I’ve only played with it for around 20 minutes so this is my early take on the app. I like it a lot more than the apple calendar app, mostly because I now have access to month view this way. The app is way easy for me personally to use. So far, everything has been mostly accessible and understandable to me except for one area. This area is called the week view. You can switch the app to week view by turning your device to landscape view. I really don’t find this helpful as I can’t quite figure the layout out and I really just don’t need this feature. The app was super easy to set up and it gives a tiny bit of a tutorial on how to switch from ticker view to month view. I personally don’t care for or need the ticker view as I think this may be something more suitable to someone who is visual. I had the fantastical app before but this newer version is way better. I love that I can see my calendar events and my reminders all in one spot. Of course, my favorite thing was the month view, which was a must have for me. So, if you have an older version of Fantastical you will need to purchase Fantastical 2 and it’s on sale now for $2.99. I was upset about this as I already had purchased Fantastical a year ago but fifteen minutes after I downloaded the app, I am more than pleased with my $2.99 purchase. One thing I would find helpful is if in Calendar view when I touch a day instead of just saying October 30th 3 events, 1 reminder, I would love it to say Wednesday October 30th, 3 events, 1 reminder. :) This really is a small thing but it would just be a time saver instead of having to slide my finger up to see what day of the week a particular date falls on. :) The way it is now, it just requires a bit more brain power on my part. :) I do want to note that I do not use my Calendar app for anything fancy or complex. It’s mostly for the Family’s schedule and so I have not tested every aspect of the app but so far so good. :) I do share my calendar with my husband so that he will know what is going on and that part is working like a charm as well. :) I think it’s because everything is synced with apple’s Calendar and reminder apps. Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar
This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things about Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never thought I'd need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted to see my calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so this point really sold me. Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful feature for VoiceOver users. Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately the actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
BusyCal Support
Dear BusyCal Support Team, I downloaded the trial of BusyCal for Mac. I absolutely love the features in BusyCal, which are so sadly missing in the native OS X Calendar. However, unfortunately I haven't been able to use BusyCal properly. I use VoiceOver—Apple's built-in screen reader for OS X—to access my Mac. Voiceover is a utility for people who are blind or have low vision. It reads out information on the screen and allows users to control the Mac with the keyboard. All the controls, preferences etcetera of BusyCal are accessible with VoiceOver, but sadly the actual calendar part of the application—presumably listing the days of the month and events etcetera—appears completely inaccessible with VoiceOver. From a VoiceOver user's perspective, the calendar part of the app is invisible. It would be fantastic if you could make your app accessible with VoiceOver. Thankfully, Apple makes this much easier than one might expect, given the support for VoiceOver it builds into the Mac. Apple provides an introduction for developers on accessibility in OS X, including VoiceOver, at the following link: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html Apple provides a general overview of VoiceOver for consumers here: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/voiceover/ Additional information for developing apps that are accessible to VoiceOver users can be found on the AppleVis website at: http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers I would gladly welcome any news from BusyMac if/when you improve its accessibility so I can spread the word among the community of VoiceOver users. Additionally, if there are any settings, configurations or the like which you believe might assist VoiceOver users in accessing BusyCal please let me know. Many thanks for your time and consideration. Kind regards, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Fantastical for Mac
Hi all, I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to get through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues with the app. The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access some kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view. I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my findings with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and useful information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already contacted them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother. Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Fantastical for iOS
I bought Fantastical 2 today on sale. Everything seems labeled properly, but still having some issues getting it working. 1. The settings button remains dim. Presumably I have to do something to activate this button, but not sure what that is. 2. Welcome message remains displayed. The welcome message tells me to swipe down on the date picker to reveal the calendar. I can't work out how to do this. 3. Unable to open events or mark reminders as complete. Double tapping on reminders or events doesn't seem to do anything. If anyone can help with any of these issues I'd really appreciate it. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: BusyCal Support
waw. very good job. thanks my friend. cheers. Em 31/10/2013 03:16, Nicholas Parsons escreveu: Dear BusyCal Support Team, I downloaded the trial of BusyCal for Mac. I absolutely love the features in BusyCal, which are so sadly missing in the native OS X Calendar. However, unfortunately I haven't been able to use BusyCal properly. I use VoiceOver—Apple's built-in screen reader for OS X—to access my Mac. Voiceover is a utility for people who are blind or have low vision. It reads out information on the screen and allows users to control the Mac with the keyboard. All the controls, preferences etcetera of BusyCal are accessible with VoiceOver, but sadly the actual calendar part of the application—presumably listing the days of the month and events etcetera—appears completely inaccessible with VoiceOver. From a VoiceOver user's perspective, the calendar part of the app is invisible. It would be fantastic if you could make your app accessible with VoiceOver. Thankfully, Apple makes this much easier than one might expect, given the support for VoiceOver it builds into the Mac. Apple provides an introduction for developers on accessibility in OS X, including VoiceOver, at the following link: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html Apple provides a general overview of VoiceOver for consumers here: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/voiceover/ Additional information for developing apps that are accessible to VoiceOver users can be found on the AppleVis website at: http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers I would gladly welcome any news from BusyMac if/when you improve its accessibility so I can spread the word among the community of VoiceOver users. Additionally, if there are any settings, configurations or the like which you believe might assist VoiceOver users in accessing BusyCal please let me know. Many thanks for your time and consideration. Kind regards, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Fantastical for iOS
All your problems are caused by the intro tips. Once you do the 3 tasks it gives you your settings etc will not be greyed any more. When they say swipe or slide down vo users do a double tap and hold and when the tone sounds slide your finger down a bit. With this and double tap on the today button etc I was able to get into the app proper. Danny. Sent from my iPhone On 31 Oct 2013, at 2:52 pm, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I bought Fantastical 2 today on sale. Everything seems labeled properly, but still having some issues getting it working. 1. The settings button remains dim. Presumably I have to do something to activate this button, but not sure what that is. 2. Welcome message remains displayed. The welcome message tells me to swipe down on the date picker to reveal the calendar. I can't work out how to do this. 3. Unable to open events or mark reminders as complete. Double tapping on reminders or events doesn't seem to do anything. If anyone can help with any of these issues I'd really appreciate it. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: BusyCal Support
Good that you’d emailed busy cal support. Hopefully they’ll respond, and implement better accessibility. I’d tried the app a couple years ago, and I found the same thing, the actual calendar area wasn’t visible to VO at all. And when I went to switch back to what was iCal at the time, this was on Snow leopard, I found that it wouldn’t launch. Well, it would launch, but VO would say iCal has no Windows.So somehow, putting on busy cal, totally messed up iCal for some reason. Had to do a total reinstall of the OS at the time, to get it back. Before doing that however, I tried rebuilding the launch services data base with Onyx, this would fix it temporarily so I could use iCal again, but then later, it’d act up again. Don’t know why that happened. After that experience, and the inaccessibility of busy cal, don’t think I’ll be installing it again, until there are improvements in accessibility.Luckily that time, I’d just installed a trial version, so I wasn’t out nay money. . On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Dear BusyCal Support Team, I downloaded the trial of BusyCal for Mac. I absolutely love the features in BusyCal, which are so sadly missing in the native OS X Calendar. However, unfortunately I haven't been able to use BusyCal properly. I use VoiceOver—Apple's built-in screen reader for OS X—to access my Mac. Voiceover is a utility for people who are blind or have low vision. It reads out information on the screen and allows users to control the Mac with the keyboard. All the controls, preferences etcetera of BusyCal are accessible with VoiceOver, but sadly the actual calendar part of the application—presumably listing the days of the month and events etcetera—appears completely inaccessible with VoiceOver. From a VoiceOver user's perspective, the calendar part of the app is invisible. It would be fantastic if you could make your app accessible with VoiceOver. Thankfully, Apple makes this much easier than one might expect, given the support for VoiceOver it builds into the Mac. Apple provides an introduction for developers on accessibility in OS X, including VoiceOver, at the following link: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Accessibility/Conceptual/AccessibilityMacOSX/OSXAXIntro/OSXAXintro.html Apple provides a general overview of VoiceOver for consumers here: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/voiceover/ Additional information for developing apps that are accessible to VoiceOver users can be found on the AppleVis website at: http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers I would gladly welcome any news from BusyMac if/when you improve its accessibility so I can spread the word among the community of VoiceOver users. Additionally, if there are any settings, configurations or the like which you believe might assist VoiceOver users in accessing BusyCal please let me know. Many thanks for your time and consideration. Kind regards, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
request. automatic updates. voice over feature.
hi friends. I would like to ask a favor to friends group. about a feature that is very important for users of voice over and the team Accessibility apple. why support accessibility does not add a feature for voice over have automatic updates? ... is assumed the commitment to support the accessibility of voice over, also teem take this commitment to upgrade voice over short periods of time, rather than only when updates are available for the system. This feature already exists in almost all screen readers, nvda, and jaws, and more. why has not been done for voice over? ... apple what are you waiting for? where is your commitment to accessibility in voice over? someone please write a ticket for support of voice over asking for this feature updates automa'ticas for voice over. I know this would cause the team to support voice over longer assume this commitment but would be good for everyone. I can not make this request because I do not write English perfectly. please who does this favor the voice over and all of its users? thanks. cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
