Strange problem where VO would
Hello all, To make a long story short, there is a website and discussion forum which I must routinely use for a distance education course. When navigating to the page where I can post new discussion topics, VO would crash and restart whenever I navigated to the region where I could enter the topic title and message. For example, using VO+RIGHT ARROW or using the TAB KEY would work fine until I hit that particular region on the page, after which VO would restart and Safari would hang for several seconds, after which I still would not be at the right spot. I created a new, temporary user account for testing purposes, and the issue did not occur in the other account. The website worked fine. After doing a whole host of troubleshooting, including resetting VoiceOver’s preferences in my original user account, I discovered that the problem appears to be with my “navigate images” setting. I like to have this set to “with descriptions”, but this seemed to be the root of the problem. When I change the setting to “always”, the website works fine, even in my original user account. If I change the setting back to “with descriptions”, the crashing consistently resumes. Just thought I’d pass this along. I was getting ready to pull out all the stops and reinstall from scratch, but the solution was a very simple one. It seems that it would be a good idea to test the stability of Safari on important websites after making any customizations to VO’s web preferences. Cheers, Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't connect to iMac via bluetooth
I can tell you you do not need bluetooth to use text message forwarding or to make and receive phone calls from an iPad or Mac. So long as they're all connected to the same wifi network and signed into the same iCloud account it should just work. On 24 Oct 2014, at 05:17, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote: Hello all, Does anybody know why I can’t connect to my iMac from my iPhone 5 via bluetooth? The iMac can see my phone but they don’t show the necessary code to pear. I am also not able to get the code on the Mac to receive text messages on it either. I do receive iMessages on the Mac, iPhone iPad. Thanks for any help. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iBooks and Yosemite
Hi all I tried iBooks last night by opening an Epub document from my iCloud Drive. Sure enough, VoiceOver read the book, or at least sporadically anyway, but how do I actually navigate the text? Is this even possible? Great to see iBooks fully accessible under Yosemite though. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Does Not Work with TextEdit in Portrait Layout
Hi Barry, I don’t think it is. For one, it says vertical layout, not vertical text. Secondly, I was told when I printer with horizontal layout that my page was in landscape layout. When I then printed in vertical layout, I was told that I had fixed the problem and my page was in portrait layout. I have now reported this to Apple Accessibility as well. On 24 Jan 2014, at 3:27 pm, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Nic, I believe that the option you are referring to here is for entering vertical text. It does not control the page orientation. I think that you would control that from printing preferences, but you could also go into Textedit preferences and reverse the window dimensions. Hope that helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Announcements in AppleScript Dialog Boxes
I can confirm the first problem on my late 2011 Macbook Pro 13. On 24 Oct 2014, at 02:09, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve noticed a couple of bugs with VoiceOver and AppleScript dialog boxes since upgrading to Yosemite, and am interested whether anyone else has noticed the same thing. First, VoiceOver sometimes does not announce that the dialog box has appeared. It used to be that a system sound would indicate that the dialog box has appeared, and VoiceOver would then read the title and message of the dialog. Now, there is no system sound and VoiceOver does not announce the title or message, at least not for the first dialog. If the script has a number of dialogs, VoiceOver will announce the second and subsequent dialogs, but not the first. However, this bug appears to be inconsistent and sometimes doesn’t appear. One work around would be for me to re-write the scripts to specifically tell VoiceOver to announce the dialog, but it would be much simpler if we had the old behaviour. The second is that VoiceOver will not echo the text typed in the dialog. This might actually be part of a wider problem, as I’ve had issues with VoiceOver echo in other apps. The text is types, and VoiceOver will read it if you navigate with the VO keys, but VoiceOver will not echo the characters or words as they are typed and will not announce the text the cursor passes when navigating with arrow keys alone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
There is no Audible download manager or any other specific app for downloading Audible books on the Mac. You cannot download Audible books with iTunes. You can buy Audible books with iTunes, though the prices are much more expensive and you cannot use your Audible membership credits, and you can play Audible books with iTunes. But you cannot download books from your Audible account using iTunes. To download Audible books, take the following steps. It's possible to do this with Safari, but I find Google Chrome works best (it's more reliable and faster). also, I advise turning on Group items within when navigating tables in the navigation tab of the web pane of VoiceOver Utility. Open Google Chrome, browse to the Audible website and activate the link to go to your library. Navigate to the table containing your books using option-control-command-t (several times, it will be the last table on the page). Interact with the babe, navigate to the title column, and then navigate down the column until you get to the book you wish to download. Use VO-command-l to navigate by link. You'll hit all the links for rating the book (e.g. link 1, link 2, link 3, etcetera). These are repeated several times. Once you hear the Rate this book link, or something to that effect, use the tab key to navigate. You will here the name of the audiobook (or, if it is a multi part book, the particular part) followed, once you press tab again, by a download link. Simply press return on the download link. After a few seconds, a dialog box will appear asking you to save the file. Just press return again to save the file to the default location. Downloading will begin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Announcements in AppleScript Dialog Boxes
Christopher, do you not have the problem with text echo when typing in the dialog box? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Announcements in AppleScript Dialog Boxes
The only script I have is an alert to tell me a file has been added to my Downloads folder. All you get is a yes button and a no button, nothing to type in this dialogue. Sorry can't help. On 24 Oct 2014, at 08:11, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher, do you not have the problem with text echo when typing in the dialog box? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
I can't remember how to do that searching, though did know once. Aaah, I'm thinking of two different things, I forgot you can do braille input on a home screen, but was thinking about getting into Spotlight searches on the device as a whole. Thanks, Me. - Original Message - From: Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:12 AM Subject: Re: Braille screen input Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mail in 10.10
For me in Yosemite, in Classic View all messages are announced as conversations, even if they are not. IN standard view, on the other hand, the read/unread status is back to the beginning of what VoiceOver announces, but for me VoiceOver announces all messages as unread, even if they are in fact read. So I’m using classic view for now so the read/unread status is announced accurately. I’ve read that for others, standard view is working correctly. I wonder why this is? I’m using the following machines: 1. 21.5 mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics 2. 13 2011 MacBook Air with 1.7GHz i5 processor and 4GB RAM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Two questions
I cannot confirm any of these on my Late 2011 Macbook Pro 13. I can both show the downloads window in Safari and activate links in email messages in Mail. On 23 Oct 2014, at 23:16, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I have two unrelated questions. First, since installing Yosemite, I can no longer see my downloads window while using Safari to download files. Previously, I was able to do this by pressing command option l. Is this function no longer available, or, is there a new command? My second question has to do with Mail. Prior to Yosemite, I could move the cursor to a link contained within a mail message and press VO space to activate it. When I attempt to do this using mail in Yosemite, when I press VO space on a link, the message text starts reading. If anyone has any ideas concerning these small questions, they would be greatly appreciated. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com mailto:richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Does Not Work with TextEdit in Portrait Layout
Here is a link to the Textedit help topic. https://help.apple.com/textedit/mac/10.10/index.html?localePath=en.lproj#txted35481 https://help.apple.com/textedit/mac/10.10/index.html?localePath=en.lproj%23txted35481 I found it with layout as the keyword. On Oct 24, 2014, at 1:56 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Barry, I don’t think it is. For one, it says vertical layout, not vertical text. Secondly, I was told when I printer with horizontal layout that my page was in landscape layout. When I then printed in vertical layout, I was told that I had fixed the problem and my page was in portrait layout. I have now reported this to Apple Accessibility as well. On 24 Jan 2014, at 3:27 pm, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com mailto:bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Nic, I believe that the option you are referring to here is for entering vertical text. It does not control the page orientation. I think that you would control that from printing preferences, but you could also go into Textedit preferences and reverse the window dimensions. Hope that helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/VefqrfwJj4E/unsubscribe https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/VefqrfwJj4E/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | Selecting Text in Preview
Hello Nick, I’ve just tried the selecting and copying in Preview and it’s very strange. I tried with two different files: one downloaded from the internet and copying with VO-Return navigating through the text, then VO-Return again and Cmd-c worked fine, as did VO-a and copying the whole file; however, with the PDF file About Stacks which goes back to Snow Leopard, the copy appeared to work, but all I copied was an image! In Preview, VoiceOver could read both files. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 05:50, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Am I right that selecting text in Preview no longer works, or no longer works as well, in Yosemite? I was just getting used to doing it in Mavericks with VO-return, and now it seems to be broken. Open a text-based PDF in Preview; Press VO-return to start selection; Use VO keys to navigate by word or line to choose which text is selected; Whether you now press command-c, or first stop selecting with VO-return and then press command-c, the system plays an error sound and nothing is copied to clipboard. Using VO-F6 VoiceOver announces that one word is selected, not the desired text. This is a shame as selecting text previously worked so well. I do love the search feature in Preview, however. Not sure if it is new to Yosemite, as I never tried it before. One of the cool things about the Preview search feature rather than using VO-f is that the Preview search feature announces on what page each of the search results is. This can be great for citation/referencing purposes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clean Install of Yosemite (was: Preview on Yosemite | Unable to Read some PDFs)
Hello Nick, I never use the Recovery partition as it downloads a new version of the OS which takes too long. I always make a bootable USB key and install from that. I then restore my data from my Time Machine backup. Below is how to make a bootable USB key, you’ll need an 8 GB drive. Cheers, Anne Install OS X Yosemite.app Download OS X Yosemite Prepare your USB Flash Drive. To format the USB drive open Disk Utility. Plug the drive in into your Mac. Select the USB Flash drive from the table in Disk Utility. Select the “Erase” tab. Make sure the Format is set to Mac OS Extended (Journaled). As for the name, leave it as “Untitled”. Finally click the Erase tab. Terminal Command Simply copy and paste this into Terminal and press the Return key: sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app --nointeraction Since the above command uses the sudo attribute you will be required to enter your password to start the process. Once the process starts you will see this in Terminal: Erasing Disk: 0%… 10%… 20%…100%… Copying installer files to disk… Copy complete. Making disk bootable… Copying boot files… Copy complete. Done. This process can take a while since it’s copying gigabytes of data over. Leave it alone and let it do its thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Possible workaround for Mail link problem
Seeing the contradictory experiences of clicking links in Yosemite Mail messages I have noticed the following. 1. If I open a mail by pressing enter I find I cannot execute the link. 2. If however I interact with the message with VO J I can execute the link as normal. I do not know if that corresponds to other experiences. David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Possible workaround for Mail link problem
Hello David, Links work just fine for me. I have Mail in Classic view. I have conversations turned off. I have the Preview pane turned off. I open a message by pressing Return. I find links by pressing VO-Cmd-l. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 11:02, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing the contradictory experiences of clicking links in Yosemite Mail messages I have noticed the following. 1. If I open a mail by pressing enter I find I cannot execute the link. 2. If however I interact with the message with VO J I can execute the link as normal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
Hello Nick, This sounds like an awfully convoluted way to download Audible books. I just click the link to my library, then press VO-Cmd-t to get to the table. I then interact with the table and navigate right until I find first the name of the book, then much further right, the download link. I just interact and press VO-Space. Cmd-Option-l takes me to the downloads window. Once the book is downloaded, I go to my Downloads folder and open it with Cmd-o and it opens in iTunes. Safari works just fine for me. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 09:10, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: There is no Audible download manager or any other specific app for downloading Audible books on the Mac. You cannot download Audible books with iTunes. You can buy Audible books with iTunes, though the prices are much more expensive and you cannot use your Audible membership credits, and you can play Audible books with iTunes. But you cannot download books from your Audible account using iTunes. To download Audible books, take the following steps. It's possible to do this with Safari, but I find Google Chrome works best (it's more reliable and faster). also, I advise turning on Group items within when navigating tables in the navigation tab of the web pane of VoiceOver Utility. Open Google Chrome, browse to the Audible website and activate the link to go to your library. Navigate to the table containing your books using option-control-command-t (several times, it will be the last table on the page). Interact with the babe, navigate to the title column, and then navigate down the column until you get to the book you wish to download. Use VO-command-l to navigate by link. You'll hit all the links for rating the book (e.g. link 1, link 2, link 3, etcetera). These are repeated several times. Once you hear the Rate this book link, or something to that effect, use the tab key to navigate. You will here the name of the audiobook (or, if it is a multi part book, the particular part) followed, once you press tab again, by a download link. Simply press return on the download link. After a few seconds, a dialog box will appear asking you to save the file. Just press return again to save the file to the default location. Downloading will begin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Does Not Work with TextEdit in Portrait Layout
Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to be right that make layout vertical is for languages that write vertically. However, I still can’t reconcile that with what I was told by sighted colleagues that it changed the page layout from landscape to portrait. Maybe they were wrong, or maybe there was something else going on. Or maybe this is part of a bug in Yosemite. Would be good if someone with access to eyes could verify whether that option changes the page layout, the text direction or both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Selecting Text in TexEdit which Wraps Over a Page
Hi list, This bug has been discussed before in relation to Pages, but this is the first time I’ve noticed it in TextEdit. Just tried to select a paragraph in TextEdit which wrapped over a page. It didn’t work. I was left selecting only the portion of the text on the second page. IN fact, when I just tried to select the last line on the page, I was left selecting nothing. Do others experience this? Is there any setting which can alter this behaviour? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clean Install of Yosemite (was: Preview on Yosemite | Unable to Read some PDFs)
Awesome, thanks, Anne! Seeing I have already installed Yosemite, but have a copy of the Install OS X Yosemite.app on a USB drive, should I replace the reference to /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app to use the file path to the app on my other USB device? And I notice that the terminal command references that file path twice. Would I need to change it twice? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Possible workaround for Mail link problem
I too can open links in Mail just fine. I am running Yosemite. I have Mail in Classic view, but I have conversations (i.e. group related messages) enabled. I use command-o to open messages. I don't think it's relevant to classic view, but I have preview pane turned off when I switch to standard view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clean Install of Yosemite (was: Preview on Yosemite | Unable to Read some PDFs)
Hello Nick, Why not make it easy on yourself and copy the Install app into your Applications folder, then you wouldn't have to change anything. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:11, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome, thanks, Anne! Seeing I have already installed Yosemite, but have a copy of the Install OS X Yosemite.app on a USB drive, should I replace the reference to /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app to use the file path to the app on my other USB device? And I notice that the terminal command references that file path twice. Would I need to change it twice? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Selecting Text in TexEdit which Wraps Over a Page
Hello Nick, Have you tried switching the view using Cmd-Shift-w? Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:02, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, This bug has been discussed before in relation to Pages, but this is the first time I’ve noticed it in TextEdit. Just tried to select a paragraph in TextEdit which wrapped over a page. It didn’t work. I was left selecting only the portion of the text on the second page. IN fact, when I just tried to select the last line on the page, I was left selecting nothing. Do others experience this? Is there any setting which can alter this behaviour? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
Hi Anne (and others), yes, my way is certainly more convoluted. Your way is much simpler. I used to do it that way too, at least whenever the automatic download feature didn't work. However, more recently that stopped working for me, hence the resort to the more convoluted method. Certainly anyone reading this should try Anne's way first. I just tried on my account with audible.co.uk and it worked just as Anne said, except the last column was titled Listen instead of Download. But the Listen column had download links once you interact with the relevant cell (or press VO-command-l). Not sure why it was behaving differently for me in the past (whether perhaps Safari or web navigation settings, or perhaps the version of audible's website I was using). But in any case, useful to have more than one tool in your toolkit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Does Not Work with TextEdit in Portrait Layout
P.S. That TextEdit site had a bunch of other useful stuff on it well worth reading. On 24 Jan 2014, at 8:57 pm, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to be right that make layout vertical is for languages that write vertically. However, I still can’t reconcile that with what I was told by sighted colleagues that it changed the page layout from landscape to portrait. Maybe they were wrong, or maybe there was something else going on. Or maybe this is part of a bug in Yosemite. Would be good if someone with access to eyes could verify whether that option changes the page layout, the text direction or both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clean Install of Yosemite (was: Preview on Yosemite | Unable to Read some PDFs)
Haha, okay, I thought you might say that. Was hoping to avoid the need for copying that 6GB file more than I needed to, but I suppose you're right, it will be much easier and probably worth the time to get an installation drive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Selecting Text in TexEdit which Wraps Over a Page
Okay, thanks, switching to wrap to window worked. I remember some people having issue with this in Mavericks. Was it wrap to window that gave issues or wrap to page? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
Hello Nick, Yes, that column is labeled Listen. I'm with Audible.com http://audible.com/ but they seem to be pretty much the same. I just downloaded a book in two parts this morning and all is working well. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Selecting Text in TexEdit which Wraps Over a Page
Hello Nick, Wrap to window makes editing work properly, but if you want to skip through a document page-by-page, you need to switch to wrap to page. At least there's a short cut for this. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | Selecting Text in Preview
Strange indeed. The issue I was getting with not being able to copy at all I think was related to having just performed a search. I’m guessing some kind of search dialog pops up which blocks the view or for some reason stops one from being able to copy text. I couldn’t work out how to make the search box (which VoiceOver describes as an image browser) disappear. I did, however, try with some other PDFs without first performing a search. With all of the ones I tried I only managed to paste an image into TextEdit. I tried with scanned and OCR-ed PDFs as well as original text-based PDFs downloaded from the internet. I might put together a couple of example PDFs to send to Apple Accessibility to illustrate the issue. Would be good to resolve this one as I find copying from PDFs this way really useful. The alternative was to do a VO-shift-c for each line, but this could get tedious with longer passages. Do you know of a way to dismiss the search results box in Preview by any chance? I might just start reading PDFs with Nisus Writer Pro if these issues don’t clear up. Hopefully that still works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | Selecting Text in Preview
Hello Nick, I haven’t got a lot of PDFs on my computer and none of them are long. I haven’t tried the Search facility either. As for copying text, it’s a nuisance that PDFs have new lines everywhere, preventing us from making use of the VO commands for reading by sentence or paragraph. I really don’t like working with PDFs and usually copy the whole thing into TextEdit for easier manipulation. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:48, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Strange indeed. The issue I was getting with not being able to copy at all I think was related to having just performed a search. I’m guessing some kind of search dialog pops up which blocks the view or for some reason stops one from being able to copy text. I couldn’t work out how to make the search box (which VoiceOver describes as an image browser) disappear. I did, however, try with some other PDFs without first performing a search. With all of the ones I tried I only managed to paste an image into TextEdit. I tried with scanned and OCR-ed PDFs as well as original text-based PDFs downloaded from the internet. I might put together a couple of example PDFs to send to Apple Accessibility to illustrate the issue. Would be good to resolve this one as I find copying from PDFs this way really useful. The alternative was to do a VO-shift-c for each line, but this could get tedious with longer passages. Do you know of a way to dismiss the search results box in Preview by any chance? I might just start reading PDFs with Nisus Writer Pro if these issues don’t clear up. Hopefully that still works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Possible workaround for Mail link problem
As for me, I use standard mail view with conversations turned on and open e-mails with return and find links using CMD+l and open with VO+space. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I too can open links in Mail just fine. I am running Yosemite. I have Mail in Classic view, but I have conversations (i.e. group related messages) enabled. I use command-o to open messages. I don't think it's relevant to classic view, but I have preview pane turned off when I switch to standard view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iBooks and Yosemite
Depending on whether you are in single or two page view you can navigate by single or two pages simply by pressing the up and down arrow keys. Theoretically I think you should be able to navigate by chapter with shift command left and right arrow from memory but I am not sure about this yet as it did not appear to work on one book but that may have been a book structure fault. You can read by normal VO reading keys fore line etc but I cannot find a paragraph read equivalent. Quick Nav rota commands for line paragraph word and character and so on do not appear to work. This is a shame. I am still investigating like you. David Griffith On 24/10/2014 07:47, christopher hallsworth wrote: Hi all I tried iBooks last night by opening an Epub document from my iCloud Drive. Sure enough, VoiceOver read the book, or at least sporadically anyway, but how do I actually navigate the text? Is this even possible? Great to see iBooks fully accessible under Yosemite though. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
VoiceOver and tables on the web
Hi. Does anyone here know if VoiceOver (both on Mac and iOS) are able to read tables on the web that uses the aria-describedby tag? Here is an example, though in norwegian (just so you understand what kind of tables I meean). Hope for good answers. Best regards David Hole -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Possible workaround for Mail link problem
Links work normally for me too. I use Standard View, conversations enabled, no preview pane, and I open messages with enter. I can use vo-cmd-l, or interact with the text and simply arrow to a link. On Oct 24, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: As for me, I use standard mail view with conversations turned on and open e-mails with return and find links using CMD+l and open with VO+space. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: I too can open links in Mail just fine. I am running Yosemite. I have Mail in Classic view, but I have conversations (i.e. group related messages) enabled. I use command-o to open messages. I don't think it's relevant to classic view, but I have preview pane turned off when I switch to standard view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: VoiceOver and tables on the web
Probably depends on how it's being used. Your example didn't come through. CB On 10/24/14, 9:22 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Does anyone here know if VoiceOver (both on Mac and iOS) are able to read tables on the web that uses the aria-describedby tag? Here is an example, though in norwegian (just so you understand what kind of tables I meean). Hope for good answers. Best regards David Hole -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Incorrect reporting of position of insertion point in Yosemite (and other Pages issues)
Hi guys I guess I should have paid more attention to what y’all were saying about the insertion point. Let me tell you a simple thing that it took me an hour to figure out. If you are in Numbers, and you want to type a formula yourself instead of using the menu, after you type the equals sign, be sure and press the right arrow key first. If you don’t, your numbers will changed to automatic and you will hear what you just typed instead of your formula results. What’s weird is that if you had typed cell co-ordinates within parentheses, sometimes it is considered a cell. At first I thought this was a unfortunate change to Numbers, until something told me to check the cursor position by moving the arrow keys. When I did that, my formula worked. So, don’t do like me and not pay attention when your fellow blind warn you about something like this. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne, Sigh. What is it with changing those menu buttons all the time. Thanks for letting us know the new/old trick! I’ve found that navigating in the body area in Pages seems more reliable. Previously, VoiceOver would sometimes get stuck in the header or footer areas when switching between pages (a good reason to turn off headers and footers if they are not needed), and would sometimes get stuck on a particular page or jump back to an earlier page. This seemed to happen more often if the document contained tables which wrapped over multiple pages. But I’ve been off work this week (focusing on my thesis which I write in Scrivener) so haven’t tested out Pages with long documents yet. They don’t seem to have done anything about the bug when selecting text which wraps to multiple pages. On 19 Jan 2014, at 11:51 pm, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Nick, On 19 Oct 2014, at 08:30, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: How are those paragraph style buttons now? They seemed to change with every minor update to Pages under Mavericks. The menu button to the right of the paragraph style name in the table is once more inaccessible with VO. We have to go back to using Mouse keys to find the menu button. After clicking with ‘i’ or 5, turn Mouse keys off again and use down arrow to see the menu items. Select your action with Return. I’ve sent a bug report to Accessibility. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: another bug
Although Mavericks may not be in the app store, I had to downgrade once using my Time Machine backup. I had to copy my documents folder to somewhere first so I could fix it after I did the downgrade. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com wrote: So, the issue with my keyboard persists. Given the magnitude of this bug is forcing me to downgrade back to mavericks. To sum up, after a time, I have issues not only closing apps with command q, but some keyboard navigation isn't working and text input doesn't work either. Anyone know hot I can downgrade back to 10.9.4? http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/protection is active. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
How do you get VoiceOver to say each character when typing in grade 2 with the Braille keyboard? It's doing character by character in grade 1, but not in grade 2. I am having some trouble always getting to the automatic translation so that I can change whether the iPhone waits for a space or carriage return to translate. Right now I need character by character if I am going to do grade 2 for now because I keep making mistakes. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Two questions
I have just done both these things successfully, oddly enough. CMD-Option-L still worked to show me the download I was doing and I started it by clicking the link in a Mail message. Hmmm. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Need Help Installing Printer Driver in Yosemite
Hello Everyone, In Maverick, it was a simple thing to install the software for my Samsung ML-3312nd Series laser printer. I: 1. Opened System Preferences. 2. Opened Printers and Scanners. 3. Selected the Add button. Since the printer is on my network via an Ethernet cable, it was located immediately. 4. All I had to do was to click the Add button for the software was automatically detected and downloaded from Apple. By the way, I just performed these steps yesterday on my Maverick machine. In Yosemite, just now, when I followed the same steps, I get a message telling me that Apple does not have the drivers for my printer and that I should get it from the printer manufacturer. Just so you know, I purchased this printer about 2 years ago so it is not new. I wish I had installed the printer driver before upgrading from Maverick to Yosemite for it is my thinking that the driver would have remained in place. Be that as it may, I did not do this. So, here are my questions: 1. Where on the Maverick disk is the printer driver located? I'm hoping I can simply copy it to my Yosemite computer and have it work. 2. I went to the Samsung website and downloaded what they say is the Mac driver for this printer, however the driver version number does not match that which is installed on my Maverick computer. Also, the driver on the Samsung site says it is for Maverick 10.5 to 10.9. Do you think this driver will work? 3. I've never installed a printer driver on a Mac, before. The file that I downloaded, should you not be able to tell me from where to copy the driver as described above from my Maverick computer, is a .zip file. How do I use it when attempting to install the printer in Yosemite? I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Apple does not have the driver when installing from Yosemite but it does when installing from Maverick. I eagerly await any and all replies on this. Thank you, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
I don't think you can. My keyboard echo is set to character, and I hear the characters in 6-dot mode. Like you, though, I hear nothing when using contracted braille, so I'm still using 6-dot for now. On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: How do you get VoiceOver to say each character when typing in grade 2 with the Braille keyboard? It's doing character by character in grade 1, but not in grade 2. I am having some trouble always getting to the automatic translation so that I can change whether the iPhone waits for a space or carriage return to translate. Right now I need character by character if I am going to do grade 2 for now because I keep making mistakes. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Getting Yosemite installer
I want to prepare a USB thumbdrive yosemite installer. Do I first hit the yosemite upgrade button in the app store, then am I given a chance to abort the actual install once it is downloaded to my mac? I'm a little bit leary about hitting upgrade when all I want to do is get the installer, and not install it just yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Numbers, pages and most importantly iMovie under yosemite
I know everyone is just getting acclimated to the new OS, and probably haven't gotten around to testing out the new upgrades to these three apps (pages, numbers, and iMovie). I'm hoping for two things: 1) they haven't broken numbers with the Yosemite upgrade. 2) iMovie accessibility has been improved. Any experience to date with these three apps under Yosemite? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Getting Yosemite installer
Hello Phil, Yes, you click the Upgrade button and once the download is finished, the installer will be launched. At this point, you can just quit the installer and you'll find the Install app in your Applications folder. The instructions I posted earlier explain what to do next. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 17:12, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: I want to prepare a USB thumbdrive yosemite installer. Do I first hit the yosemite upgrade button in the app store, then am I given a chance to abort the actual install once it is downloaded to my mac? I'm a little bit leary about hitting upgrade when all I want to do is get the installer, and not install it just yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Getting Yosemite installer
If you command tab away from the installer at the point it says continue you should be able to find the installer in your applications f That is what I did. older. Copy it to a different location and then quit the installer at that point to abort the installation. David Griffith On 24/10/2014 16:12, Phil Halton wrote: I want to prepare a USB thumbdrive yosemite installer. Do I first hit the yosemite upgrade button in the app store, then am I given a chance to abort the actual install once it is downloaded to my mac? I'm a little bit leary about hitting upgrade when all I want to do is get the installer, and not install it just yet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Numbers, pages and most importantly iMovie under yosemite
Hello Phil, The only one I'm using is Pages and so far, the only problem I've encountered is the reappearance of a bug that had been fixed. We can no longer access the menu button to the right of each paragraph style in the paragraph styles table. We have to bring the mouse and turn on Mouse keys. You need to have checked the checkbox that allows VoiceOver to speak the item under the mouse and set the delay to zero. You set this in VoiceOver Utility/verbosity/announcements. You configure Mouse keys in System preferences/Accessibility/Mouse Trackpad. Whatever you do, do not check the Enable Mouse keys checkbox. Just go right from there and click the Options button so that you can set Mouse keys to be turned on and off by pressing the Option key five times. Once Mouse keys are on, you can move the mouse pointer to the right using the 'o' key or the 6 key on a numpad. Once you've gone far enough right, you'll hear Menu and you can do a mouse click by pressing the letter 'i' or the 5 on a numpad. After that, just the down arrow will give you the menu items. Don't forget to turn Mouse keys off again at this point as they interfere with normal keyboard use. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 17:16, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: I know everyone is just getting acclimated to the new OS, and probably haven't gotten around to testing out the new upgrades to these three apps (pages, numbers, and iMovie). I'm hoping for two things: 1) they haven't broken numbers with the Yosemite upgrade. 2) iMovie accessibility has been improved. Any experience to date with these three apps under Yosemite? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
I don't know what would be more reliable and faster about using Google Chrome for Audible instead of safari, but to each his/her own! You can even tab to the download button once you find the book or if you know it's the top one just do a vo-f to find download or use the rotor. Lots of options! As for the download manager, I am very happy not to have one, having had one on Windows, but again, to each his/her own! The only problem I ever have is that right now I don't have a Windows machine and certain players have to be activated online and Audible has never made provision for doing this other than on Windows. But this doesn't happen often. I don't have to go to Downloads and open the book once i download it. I have safari preferences set to allow safe files to be opened and so the book opens right in iTunes. So once the book is opened and copied into my iTunes library, I can either delete it from Downloads or move it to a special place where I keep all my Audible books besides in my iTunes folder. Again, to each his/her own! This is just the way I do it. I also don't bother with going to the accessible site. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 24, 2014, at 4:54 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Nick, This sounds like an awfully convoluted way to download Audible books. I just click the link to my library, then press VO-Cmd-t to get to the table. I then interact with the table and navigate right until I find first the name of the book, then much further right, the download link. I just interact and press VO-Space. Cmd-Option-l takes me to the downloads window. Once the book is downloaded, I go to my Downloads folder and open it with Cmd-o and it opens in iTunes. Safari works just fine for me. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 09:10, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: There is no Audible download manager or any other specific app for downloading Audible books on the Mac. You cannot download Audible books with iTunes. You can buy Audible books with iTunes, though the prices are much more expensive and you cannot use your Audible membership credits, and you can play Audible books with iTunes. But you cannot download books from your Audible account using iTunes. To download Audible books, take the following steps. It's possible to do this with Safari, but I find Google Chrome works best (it's more reliable and faster). also, I advise turning on Group items within when navigating tables in the navigation tab of the web pane of VoiceOver Utility. Open Google Chrome, browse to the Audible website and activate the link to go to your library. Navigate to the table containing your books using option-control-command-t (several times, it will be the last table on the page). Interact with the babe, navigate to the title column, and then navigate down the column until you get to the book you wish to download. Use VO-command-l to navigate by link. You'll hit all the links for rating the book (e.g. link 1, link 2, link 3, etcetera). These are repeated several times. Once you hear the Rate this book link, or something to that effect, use the tab key to navigate. You will here the name of the audiobook (or, if it is a multi part book, the particular part) followed, once you press tab again, by a download link. Simply press return on the download link. After a few seconds, a dialog box will appear asking you to save the file. Just press return again to save the file to the default location. Downloading will begin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Yosemite Bugs | Selecting Text in Preview
Not only does copying and pasting not work in Preview any more, but it doesn’t work either in PDF Pen Pro. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Am I right that selecting text in Preview no longer works, or no longer works as well, in Yosemite? I was just getting used to doing it in Mavericks with VO-return, and now it seems to be broken. Open a text-based PDF in Preview; Press VO-return to start selection; Use VO keys to navigate by word or line to choose which text is selected; Whether you now press command-c, or first stop selecting with VO-return and then press command-c, the system plays an error sound and nothing is copied to clipboard. Using VO-F6 VoiceOver announces that one word is selected, not the desired text. This is a shame as selecting text previously worked so well. I do love the search feature in Preview, however. Not sure if it is new to Yosemite, as I never tried it before. One of the cool things about the Preview search feature rather than using VO-f is that the Preview search feature announces on what page each of the search results is. This can be great for citation/referencing purposes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Does Not Work with TextEdit in Portrait Layout
There are several things you need to think about and check here. Did you try changing file page setup. There's a specific landscape/portrait setting there which is by default on portrait. Also, right in the print window when you use cmd-p or do file Print there's a place to choose between landscape and portrait. Also, if you do format make vertical (which I'm not sure is exactly the same as portrait, you can't work with vo by arrowing up and down because it appears to stay on the same line but you can interact and still arrow and vo-arrow. Furthermore, it is not correct that voiceover is not working as you try to arrow up and down a line. What is actually happening, or so it appears to me, is that since you have set it to vertical layout it is moving character by character. When I kept pressing down arrow after many presses it moved to the next line. So I tried opening a file with the layout set to vertical. Then I typed a letter of the alphabet on each line and sure enough when I arrowed down it moved down and said a different alphabet letter each time. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 24, 2014, at 4:57 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I’ll give you that, Barry. :) Based on that support document, you seem to be right that make layout vertical is for languages that write vertically. However, I still can’t reconcile that with what I was told by sighted colleagues that it changed the page layout from landscape to portrait. Maybe they were wrong, or maybe there was something else going on. Or maybe this is part of a bug in Yosemite. Would be good if someone with access to eyes could verify whether that option changes the page layout, the text direction or both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
I use it with dom order and without grouping and i don't have this problem or at least I didn't last time I downloaded from Audible. When something stops working for you it might be that something has changed on the website but it's always a good idea to check your safari settings to see if anything has changed and/or post to a list to see if there's an adjustment you can make before abandoning what you are used to. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:22 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne (and others), yes, my way is certainly more convoluted. Your way is much simpler. I used to do it that way too, at least whenever the automatic download feature didn't work. However, more recently that stopped working for me, hence the resort to the more convoluted method. Certainly anyone reading this should try Anne's way first. I just tried on my account with audible.co.uk and it worked just as Anne said, except the last column was titled Listen instead of Download. But the Listen column had download links once you interact with the relevant cell (or press VO-command-l). Not sure why it was behaving differently for me in the past (whether perhaps Safari or web navigation settings, or perhaps the version of audible's website I was using). But in any case, useful to have more than one tool in your toolkit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | Selecting Text in Preview
This is what I usually do too. And this morning when I opened something in Preview and it said static text I could still select all and copy it into text edit. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 24, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Nick, I haven’t got a lot of PDFs on my computer and none of them are long. I haven’t tried the Search facility either. As for copying text, it’s a nuisance that PDFs have new lines everywhere, preventing us from making use of the VO commands for reading by sentence or paragraph. I really don’t like working with PDFs and usually copy the whole thing into TextEdit for easier manipulation. Cheers, Anne On 24 Oct 2014, at 12:48, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Strange indeed. The issue I was getting with not being able to copy at all I think was related to having just performed a search. I’m guessing some kind of search dialog pops up which blocks the view or for some reason stops one from being able to copy text. I couldn’t work out how to make the search box (which VoiceOver describes as an image browser) disappear. I did, however, try with some other PDFs without first performing a search. With all of the ones I tried I only managed to paste an image into TextEdit. I tried with scanned and OCR-ed PDFs as well as original text-based PDFs downloaded from the internet. I might put together a couple of example PDFs to send to Apple Accessibility to illustrate the issue. Would be good to resolve this one as I find copying from PDFs this way really useful. The alternative was to do a VO-shift-c for each line, but this could get tedious with longer passages. Do you know of a way to dismiss the search results box in Preview by any chance? I might just start reading PDFs with Nisus Writer Pro if these issues don’t clear up. Hopefully that still works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: another strange issue
Hi, If you’re using iMap with Gmail, and you attempt to quit Mail too quickly after performing a delete message, move message or something like that, Mail will often either give you an error saying that it couldn’t complete the task or it may just sit there for some time trying to complete the task. Usually, it will either eventually quit or stay confused forever. this sort of thing has happened in some previous versions of the MacOS as well. Using iCloud iMap, this doesn’t seem to occur. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Yes sometimes this happens to me. Yesterday i couldn’t close mail so i closed my mac instead and started over. /A 23 okt 2014 kl. 08:30 skrev Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com: I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail to close when I do the command q keystroke. sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they were in Mavericks. Is anyone else finding this to be the case? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: keyboard shortcut to expand thread in messages table in mail
Yes, I get the same thing, Andrew. Thanks Alex and Andrew for letting me know you are not having this problem. Everything I tried to get the arrow keys to begin working on threads would not work, not even rebooting my computer. Then suddenly for no reason that I cannot figure out, the arrow keys started working to expand and collapse the threads. :) Christina On Oct 23, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote: The only thing that baffles me is that voiceover announces “conversation collapsed” when in fact there is no more than one message in the thread. I don’t quite understand why it does so. Best of luck Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iOs 8.1 performance on iPhone 4S
Hi everyone, I too have a 4s. It was time for me to upgrade, I chose to move to android, primarily because it was going to be cheaper along with my accessibility on my chosen phone was similar to what I get with voiceover. I kept my phone relegating it to airplane mode in order to continue to use some of the games that I have used not supported by android as of yet. Does anyone know if Apple will continue to support legacy apps as they did in their previous update? Pam Francis On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: I had those same issues with my 4S, which I unfortunately didn't realize I was going to before I updated it, due to the fact that it's an older phone, and actually had no idea you could downgrade again, so you did the right thing doing that, sense you were going to have a rough time of it unless you plan on upgrading your phone any time soon. On Oct 22, 2014, at 1:31 AM, Venkatesh Potluri venky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I am using a 16GB iPhone 4S. I updated to iOs 8 and had a lot of issues so had to downgrade back to 7.1. My phone got a lot slower, apps like whatsapp and messenger kept constantly crashing and VO randomly restarts it self. i had many accidental touches, accidental calls, etc. I wish to know if these issues have been resolved in 8.1. Another major reason for me wanting to upgrade is the Flecksy keyboard. How good is it? I read that there are still problems using it. are there any show stopper bugs? Is the Looktel money reader working fine in 8.1? Thank you. Cheers, Venkatesh Potluri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Can't read pdf files in Preview under Yosemite
Hi, Having upgraded to Yosemite, I have just discovered that I can’t read any of my pdf files in Preview. I open a file in Preview, voiceover announces “pdf content group”. I interact with it and voiceover announces “static text. I can’t seem to do anything with it from that point. voiceover doesn’t read anything nor can I interact with the text further. I’m in trouble. Is there anything I can do to make it work? Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can't read pdf files in Preview under Yosemite
Hello, Try highlighting all the text, copy it and then put it into textedit. If there is actual text in the pdf file, this should work for now. HTH On Oct 24, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote: Hi, Having upgraded to Yosemite, I have just discovered that I can’t read any of my pdf files in Preview. I open a file in Preview, voiceover announces “pdf content group”. I interact with it and voiceover announces “static text. I can’t seem to do anything with it from that point. voiceover doesn’t read anything nor can I interact with the text further. I’m in trouble. Is there anything I can do to make it work? Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
I only hear it give dots format when it's not a character, it has to wait for the whole word to interpret it. mBraille has been known to just say the phonym like ING, ER, OF, and so on. That would be good for this version too. - Original Message - From: Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Braille screen input How do you get VoiceOver to say each character when typing in grade 2 with the Braille keyboard? It's doing character by character in grade 1, but not in grade 2. I am having some trouble always getting to the automatic translation so that I can change whether the iPhone waits for a space or carriage return to translate. Right now I need character by character if I am going to do grade 2 for now because I keep making mistakes. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Found out how to receive calls on your Mac
Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone, the way to receive or make calls on the Mac is to sign into FaceTime then on your phone you have to turn on cellular forwarding as well as messages forwarding. Hope this helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Found out how to receive calls on your Mac
Right ok, can't make or receive calls on my iPad either, maybe I'm not signed into FaceTime on there for some reason, cellular calls are on for both iPhone and iPad. Messages are working a treat though. On 24/10/2014 20:01, Pete Nalda wrote: Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone, the way to receive or make calls on the Mac is to sign into FaceTime then on your phone you have to turn on cellular forwarding as well as messages forwarding. Hope this helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
You can't. Some say it's a bug, others say it's by design because of how the translator works. I did suggest to Apple that dot patterns such as 1-2-3-4-5-6 could be announced so that we know by pattern what's about to be translated. On 24/10/2014 15:35, Eugenia Firth wrote: How do you get VoiceOver to say each character when typing in grade 2 with the Braille keyboard? It's doing character by character in grade 1, but not in grade 2. I am having some trouble always getting to the automatic translation so that I can change whether the iPhone waits for a space or carriage return to translate. Right now I need character by character if I am going to do grade 2 for now because I keep making mistakes. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Found out how to receive calls on your Mac
Yes! Try signing into FaceTime on your iPad, then try dialing a number from your contacts. It should work, as it did on my Macbook Pro. Note that also, you DO need both devices on the same Wifi network. So, with the phone settings I mentioned earlier, which it seems you have set, then FaceTime signed into, it should work. On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Right ok, can't make or receive calls on my iPad either, maybe I'm not signed into FaceTime on there for some reason, cellular calls are on for both iPhone and iPad. Messages are working a treat though. On 24/10/2014 20:01, Pete Nalda wrote: Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone, the way to receive or make calls on the Mac is to sign into FaceTime then on your phone you have to turn on cellular forwarding as well as messages forwarding. Hope this helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Boundary sounds in Yosemite
Hi, Sometimes when I command tab between applications or hit command r to refresh in Safari, I get the same sound I hear if I try to move beyond a boundary such as the top of the message list in Mail. Are keys sticking or is something else going on? I didn’t notice this under Mavericks. Cheers, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: unlabelled buttons in yosemti mail
Hello everyone, With reference to the unlabeled buttons in mail earlier in life and Yosemite do you think this was a simple oversight on the part of Apple accessibility or do you think this is something we as voiceover users are going to have to learn to deal with? Pam Francis On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent, thank you! On 22 Jan 2014, at 8:10 pm, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Here is what the buttons are that are unlabelled in yosemti mail you can lable them with V O Slash . Unlabelled Buttons in Yosemeti mail There are four unlabled buttons in yoesemit mail once you open an email and here is what they are from left to right Button 1 : Trash Button 2 Reply Button 3 : Reply All Button 4: Forward Regards Dean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Workaround for opening pdfs in preview
I just wanted to mention that the work-around for opening pdfs in Preview and getting them to read - selecting the file in finder, turning off voiceover, opening the file, turning vo back on, interacting twice with the content - does work. However, I also want to note that the same problem appears to exist with the “skim” app and this procedure does not work with Skim as far as I can tell. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Found out how to receive calls on your Mac
Ok, all is working. But wow! I just called my VoiceMail to change a setting, and I was able to both use the keypad and hear the dtmf tones all from my iPad! So finally we may have a solution to those moments where it's hard to hear VoiceOver during a call, especially in an automated system! But of course this would require an iPad, iPod Touch or Mac in the first place. Continuity is awesome! On 24/10/2014 21:19, Pete Nalda wrote: Yes! Try signing into FaceTime on your iPad, then try dialing a number from your contacts. It should work, as it did on my Macbook Pro. Note that also, you DO need both devices on the same Wifi network. So, with the phone settings I mentioned earlier, which it seems you have set, then FaceTime signed into, it should work. On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Right ok, can't make or receive calls on my iPad either, maybe I'm not signed into FaceTime on there for some reason, cellular calls are on for both iPhone and iPad. Messages are working a treat though. On 24/10/2014 20:01, Pete Nalda wrote: Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone, the way to receive or make calls on the Mac is to sign into FaceTime then on your phone you have to turn on cellular forwarding as well as messages forwarding. Hope this helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Time Machine and OS X Yosemite
Hi all, Has anyone figured out how to adjust the timeline in Time Machine with VO under Yosemite? After launching Time Machine from within a folder or application, I can hit VO+F2 twice quickly to bring up the window chooser, then choose the Time Machine window. However, I can’t figure out how to adjust the timeline using the keyboard. Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Found out how to receive calls on your Mac
Glad it’s working for you. I finally found out how to do it using the help menu on the Mac. On Oct 24, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Ok, all is working. But wow! I just called my VoiceMail to change a setting, and I was able to both use the keypad and hear the dtmf tones all from my iPad! So finally we may have a solution to those moments where it's hard to hear VoiceOver during a call, especially in an automated system! But of course this would require an iPad, iPod Touch or Mac in the first place. Continuity is awesome! On 24/10/2014 21:19, Pete Nalda wrote: Yes! Try signing into FaceTime on your iPad, then try dialing a number from your contacts. It should work, as it did on my Macbook Pro. Note that also, you DO need both devices on the same Wifi network. So, with the phone settings I mentioned earlier, which it seems you have set, then FaceTime signed into, it should work. On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Right ok, can't make or receive calls on my iPad either, maybe I'm not signed into FaceTime on there for some reason, cellular calls are on for both iPhone and iPad. Messages are working a treat though. On 24/10/2014 20:01, Pete Nalda wrote: Supposing you have Yosemite and 8.1 on your phone, the way to receive or make calls on the Mac is to sign into FaceTime then on your phone you have to turn on cellular forwarding as well as messages forwarding. Hope this helps. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Louie P. Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Recommendation for an external sound card for the mac needed.
Hi all. My external sound card is broken, and I need a new one. I need a high end sound card thunderbold or USB 3.0. I use it for recording with protools and in the future I will try to use logic. I also use it for connecting to my receiver to obtain better sound quality. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Two questions
That was the problem! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:34 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeing the downloads window fine. It may be hat you need to have your toolbar visible? David Griffith On 23 Oct 2014, at 23:16, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com mailto:richr...@gmail.com wrote: I have two unrelated questions. First, since installing Yosemite, I can no longer see my downloads window while using Safari to download files. Previously, I was able to do this by pressing command option l. Is this function no longer available, or, is there a new command? My second question has to do with Mail. Prior to Yosemite, I could move the cursor to a link contained within a mail message and press VO space to activate it. When I attempt to do this using mail in Yosemite, when I press VO space on a link, the message text starts reading. If anyone has any ideas concerning these small questions, they would be greatly appreciated. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com mailto:richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
ATT Locking Apple Interchangeable SIMs in iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3 [Updated] - Mac Rumors
Hello all: Be ware of using Apple’s new universal SIM with ATT. http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/24/att-apple-sim/ http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/24/att-apple-sim/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: unlabelled buttons in yosemti mail
Hi, I would guess that it was an oversight, but not being part of the testing or development crew, I couldn’t be positive. Now, for my own part, I initially wasn’t paying much attention to this thread and have subsequently looked for these unlabelled buttons and have been unable to locate them. Is these unlabelled buttons found when in Classic view, Standard view or both? How exactly does one find them? Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, With reference to the unlabeled buttons in mail earlier in life and Yosemite do you think this was a simple oversight on the part of Apple accessibility or do you think this is something we as voiceover users are going to have to learn to deal with? Pam Francis On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent, thank you! On 22 Jan 2014, at 8:10 pm, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com mailto:breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Here is what the buttons are that are unlabelled in yosemti mail you can lable them with V O Slash . Unlabelled Buttons in Yosemeti mail There are four unlabled buttons in yoesemit mail once you open an email and here is what they are from left to right Button 1 : Trash Button 2 Reply Button 3 : Reply All Button 4: Forward Regards Dean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Recommendation for an external sound card for the mac needed.
Do you need a 'card' or just an interface? For my little bit of recording I use the Art USB Dual Pre which takes two XLR or 1/4 mic or line level inputs and appears as a USB audio device which you can then record with whatever you like. It's 16-bit 44Khz resolution so if you're into the 192K thing that's not going to be what you want but for most purposes it works fine. For output it also goes the other direction but you know you can also run a fiber optic cable from your headphone jack to a standard 5.1 receiver and skip the A/D conversion. CB On 10/24/14, 5:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi all. My external sound card is broken, and I need a new one. I need a high end sound card thunderbold or USB 3.0. I use it for recording with protools and in the future I will try to use logic. I also use it for connecting to my receiver to obtain better sound quality. Best regards Annie. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Recommendation for an external sound card for the mac needed.
Hi. I need an interface. Best regards Annie.a Den 24/10/2014 kl. 23.35 skrev 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com: Do you need a 'card' or just an interface? For my little bit of recording I use the Art USB Dual Pre which takes two XLR or 1/4 mic or line level inputs and appears as a USB audio device which you can then record with whatever you like. It's 16-bit 44Khz resolution so if you're into the 192K thing that's not going to be what you want but for most purposes it works fine. For output it also goes the other direction but you know you can also run a fiber optic cable from your headphone jack to a standard 5.1 receiver and skip the A/D conversion. CB On 10/24/14, 5:10 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi all. My external sound card is broken, and I need a new one. I need a high end sound card thunderbold or USB 3.0. I use it for recording with protools and in the future I will try to use logic. I also use it for connecting to my receiver to obtain better sound quality. Best regards Annie. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Braille screen input
Hello I think saying the dots out what take forever. I really think that with the screen input, unless you were using a brill display, is got to have the default of translation as you go. Mit's a real pain to type a big long word, only to find out that it's got a big mistake in it, and then you have to back out the whole thing. I realize I probably need more practice, but that's just my two cents on the subject. I didn't have this problem with them braille. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: You can't. Some say it's a bug, others say it's by design because of how the translator works. I did suggest to Apple that dot patterns such as 1-2-3-4-5-6 could be announced so that we know by pattern what's about to be translated. On 24/10/2014 15:35, Eugenia Firth wrote: How do you get VoiceOver to say each character when typing in grade 2 with the Braille keyboard? It's doing character by character in grade 1, but not in grade 2. I am having some trouble always getting to the automatic translation so that I can change whether the iPhone waits for a space or carriage return to translate. Right now I need character by character if I am going to do grade 2 for now because I keep making mistakes. Gigi On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Contracted braille has been working quite well for me too. It's still not good enough for me to use it in favour of mBraille, but I use it all the time on the home screen to search for apps. Just type the first few characters and when you hear the app you want, just swipe right with two fingers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: unlabelled buttons in yosemti mail
When you get an email message, press enter on it in the index. Interact where it says embedded and arrow right and you will find four unlabeled buttons. They are between where it says message headers and where it says text; they have no help tags. I haven’t been paying attention either because it doesn’t seem to be causing me a problem but they are there. Not absolutely sure they are there on every email but i don’t stop to look usually. If you press enter or vo-j and just read your message, you may not have any reason to interact or vo-arrow around and see them. Hth. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Oct 24, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, I would guess that it was an oversight, but not being part of the testing or development crew, I couldn’t be positive. Now, for my own part, I initially wasn’t paying much attention to this thread and have subsequently looked for these unlabelled buttons and have been unable to locate them. Is these unlabelled buttons found when in Classic view, Standard view or both? How exactly does one find them? Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 24, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com mailto:gypsykitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, With reference to the unlabeled buttons in mail earlier in life and Yosemite do you think this was a simple oversight on the part of Apple accessibility or do you think this is something we as voiceover users are going to have to learn to deal with? Pam Francis On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent, thank you! On 22 Jan 2014, at 8:10 pm, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com mailto:breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Here is what the buttons are that are unlabelled in yosemti mail you can lable them with V O Slash . Unlabelled Buttons in Yosemeti mail There are four unlabled buttons in yoesemit mail once you open an email and here is what they are from left to right Button 1 : Trash Button 2 Reply Button 3 : Reply All Button 4: Forward Regards Dean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Outbox folder in iCloud Mail
How do I get the Outbox folder to show in iCloud Mail in Mavericks? Earlier today Internet was down for a bit and a message I sent was not in Drafts. I did send it later but still want to see it. Apparently Apple hid this folder after Lion. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iTunes 12 Questions
Hello friends: I seem to be having difficulties with iTunes 12. I never used the Grid view, always preferring the List view. Is the Grid view the only viewing option on iTunes 12? If not, how can I go back to the List view? I've looked through the preferences and menus, and cannot find anything of the sort. When I have tried playing TV episodes in my iTunes library, iTunes goes busy on me. When it manages to play, I noticed it played a wrong episode, and not the one that I wanted to watch. Also, I noticed that content is not being synced to my iDevices. When I plug them into my Mac, iTunes goes busy again. How can I resolve this busy issue? If the Grid view is the only way to view things in my iTunes library, what is the effective way to play the proper selected TV episodes? Any help is appreciated. Thanks and warm regards, e.B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: another strange issue
I have only had this problem when the Messages app was open. Otherwise it does not occur for me at this time. On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, If you’re using iMap with Gmail, and you attempt to quit Mail too quickly after performing a delete message, move message or something like that, Mail will often either give you an error saying that it couldn’t complete the task or it may just sit there for some time trying to complete the task. Usually, it will either eventually quit or stay confused forever. this sort of thing has happened in some previous versions of the MacOS as well. Using iCloud iMap, this doesn’t seem to occur. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote: Hi! Yes sometimes this happens to me. Yesterday i couldn’t close mail so i closed my mac instead and started over. /A 23 okt 2014 kl. 08:30 skrev Faisal newyorkyank...@gmail.com: I’m also having strange issues closing apps. this strange behaviour is not the same every time but I find that apps such as safari and even mail fail to close when I do the command q keystroke. sometimes when apps do close, they are a little slow in closing than they were in Mavericks. Is anyone else finding this to be the case? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12 Questions
Hi, In grid view, you can play an episode by moving vo to it and pressing vo-space. To use list view: with vo on the grid, move it to the popup menu with vo-left and vo-space. In the popover, move vo to the left until you get to a table then interact with it. Move vo down the list until you here list and press vo-space. It is common for iTunes to be busy whenever it is finishing sinking. Hope that helps. Let me know if I didn't explain something well enough. I'm pretty happy with version twelve. It's the first one I've liked sense ten. On Friday, October 24, 2014 6:14:39 PM UTC-5, Ezzie Bueno wrote: Hello friends: I seem to be having difficulties with iTunes 12. I never used the Grid view, always preferring the List view. Is the Grid view the only viewing option on iTunes 12? If not, how can I go back to the List view? I've looked through the preferences and menus, and cannot find anything of the sort. When I have tried playing TV episodes in my iTunes library, iTunes goes busy on me. When it manages to play, I noticed it played a wrong episode, and not the one that I wanted to watch. Also, I noticed that content is not being synced to my iDevices. When I plug them into my Mac, iTunes goes busy again. How can I resolve this busy issue? If the Grid view is the only way to view things in my iTunes library, what is the effective way to play the proper selected TV episodes? Any help is appreciated. Thanks and warm regards, e.B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12 Questions
Hi, Mary: When interacting with the table on the pop-up menu, iTunes goes busy. I had also tried playing my TV episode with VO+space via the Grid view, but nothing happens. I've been using a Mac for a few years now, and have never been this frustrated with iTunes. Any further suggestions would be most appreciated! :-) Thank you, Ezzie On 10/24/14, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In grid view, you can play an episode by moving vo to it and pressing vo-space. To use list view: with vo on the grid, move it to the popup menu with vo-left and vo-space. In the popover, move vo to the left until you get to a table then interact with it. Move vo down the list until you here list and press vo-space. It is common for iTunes to be busy whenever it is finishing sinking. Hope that helps. Let me know if I didn't explain something well enough. I'm pretty happy with version twelve. It's the first one I've liked sense ten. On Friday, October 24, 2014 6:14:39 PM UTC-5, Ezzie Bueno wrote: Hello friends: I seem to be having difficulties with iTunes 12. I never used the Grid view, always preferring the List view. Is the Grid view the only viewing option on iTunes 12? If not, how can I go back to the List view? I've looked through the preferences and menus, and cannot find anything of the sort. When I have tried playing TV episodes in my iTunes library, iTunes goes busy on me. When it manages to play, I noticed it played a wrong episode, and not the one that I wanted to watch. Also, I noticed that content is not being synced to my iDevices. When I plug them into my Mac, iTunes goes busy again. How can I resolve this busy issue? If the Grid view is the only way to view things in my iTunes library, what is the effective way to play the proper selected TV episodes? Any help is appreciated. Thanks and warm regards, e.B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes 12 Questions
I am not getting that behavior at all. Sounds to me like something is wrong. Have you tried running disk utility? How old is your mac? Also, you will occasionally want to leave your Mac on over night so that the system can run certain maintenance scripts that are by default scheduled from 3 AM to 5 AM. You can also manually run these scripts by opening terminal and typing: sudo periodic daily weekly monthly They do things like getting rid of old log and temp files. You also might try manually downloading iTunes and reinstalling it. These are only suggestions. I have know idea what your problems are. I can only tell you that what you describe is not happening for me and I am using a mid 2011 MBP. On Oct 24, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Ezzie Bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Mary: When interacting with the table on the pop-up menu, iTunes goes busy. I had also tried playing my TV episode with VO+space via the Grid view, but nothing happens. I've been using a Mac for a few years now, and have never been this frustrated with iTunes. Any further suggestions would be most appreciated! :-) Thank you, Ezzie On 10/24/14, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In grid view, you can play an episode by moving vo to it and pressing vo-space. To use list view: with vo on the grid, move it to the popup menu with vo-left and vo-space. In the popover, move vo to the left until you get to a table then interact with it. Move vo down the list until you here list and press vo-space. It is common for iTunes to be busy whenever it is finishing sinking. Hope that helps. Let me know if I didn't explain something well enough. I'm pretty happy with version twelve. It's the first one I've liked sense ten. On Friday, October 24, 2014 6:14:39 PM UTC-5, Ezzie Bueno wrote: Hello friends: I seem to be having difficulties with iTunes 12. I never used the Grid view, always preferring the List view. Is the Grid view the only viewing option on iTunes 12? If not, how can I go back to the List view? I've looked through the preferences and menus, and cannot find anything of the sort. When I have tried playing TV episodes in my iTunes library, iTunes goes busy on me. When it manages to play, I noticed it played a wrong episode, and not the one that I wanted to watch. Also, I noticed that content is not being synced to my iDevices. When I plug them into my Mac, iTunes goes busy again. How can I resolve this busy issue? If the Grid view is the only way to view things in my iTunes library, what is the effective way to play the proper selected TV episodes? Any help is appreciated. Thanks and warm regards, e.B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/macvisionaries/h0V0W234H1k/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Need to go no-mail for a while.
I'm about to be out of town for a week and need to go no-mail for a while, but not sure how to change my status. Can someone please help with that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Time Machine won't start backup
Hello, I am trying to do a Time Machine backup under Yosemite. For more than an hour Time Machine shows preparing backup. The last backup I did was on October 21st. I am not sure if that was before or after I installed Yosemite. Anybody else having any problems? Thanks for any help. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Time Machine won't start backup
Hi, It's likely not a problem. If your last backup was prior to Yosemite, then it will actually take a while to prepare the backup. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 24, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote: Hello, I am trying to do a Time Machine backup under Yosemite. For more than an hour Time Machine shows preparing backup. The last backup I did was on October 21st. I am not sure if that was before or after I installed Yosemite. Anybody else having any problems? Thanks for any help. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Outbox folder in iCloud Mail
Hi, It only shows up when there is a message in the OutBox. So, if you sent it already, the OutBox won't be available. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 24, 2014, at 4:49 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: How do I get the Outbox folder to show in iCloud Mail in Mavericks? Earlier today Internet was down for a bit and a message I sent was not in Drafts. I did send it later but still want to see it. Apparently Apple hid this folder after Lion. From The Believer. . . . . . what if it were true? ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Need to go no-mail for a while.
You might try macvisionaries+nom...@googlegroups.com. ANd then to return try macvisionaries+nor...@googlegroups.com. Not sure if these work but they are pretty standard fair. Best, Erik Burggraaf On Oct 24, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to be out of town for a week and need to go no-mail for a while, but not sure how to change my status. Can someone please help with that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Impressions of iCloud Drive so far?
Hi all, I (perhaps unwisely) use Dropbox as primary storage for my files, with the obvious local backups just in case. However, I'd like to switch to iCloud Drive, so that my files will be more tightly integrated with iOS, and so I can pay for storage with my iTunes account. Before I do, I'd like to hear how others have found the service so far, if you use it. There was that bug that caused some folders to be erased if you did a settings reset on iOS, but aside from that I've heard nothing bad. Still, what do you think? Will you use it now, or wait? If the latter, why? Any accessibility problems (I expect not, but one never knows)? -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Impressions of iCloud Drive so far?
I like it on the Mac and on the PC but I still think ICloud is weird on the phone. It's technically not as compartmentalized but it's still hard to get to different parts of it because you can't really browse there. I want an ICloud Drive app like the DB or One Drive apps I use now. So for me, it has just created more confusion. On 10/24/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Hi all, I (perhaps unwisely) use Dropbox as primary storage for my files, with the obvious local backups just in case. However, I'd like to switch to iCloud Drive, so that my files will be more tightly integrated with iOS, and so I can pay for storage with my iTunes account. Before I do, I'd like to hear how others have found the service so far, if you use it. There was that bug that caused some folders to be erased if you did a settings reset on iOS, but aside from that I've heard nothing bad. Still, what do you think? Will you use it now, or wait? If the latter, why? Any accessibility problems (I expect not, but one never knows)? -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Two questions
Both of these should still work. At least, I can still see downloads with command-option-l in Safari and I can VO-space on links in mail. I am using standard view in Mail. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: That was the problem! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:34 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote: I am seeing the downloads window fine. It may be hat you need to have your toolbar visible? David Griffith On 23 Oct 2014, at 23:16, Rich Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote: I have two unrelated questions. First, since installing Yosemite, I can no longer see my downloads window while using Safari to download files. Previously, I was able to do this by pressing command option l. Is this function no longer available, or, is there a new command? My second question has to do with Mail. Prior to Yosemite, I could move the cursor to a link contained within a mail message and press VO space to activate it. When I attempt to do this using mail in Yosemite, when I press VO space on a link, the message text starts reading. If anyone has any ideas concerning these small questions, they would be greatly appreciated. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Re: Numbers, pages and most importantly iMovie under yosemite
They haven't broken numbers. There seem to be some slight changes when entering formulae, but nothing dramatic. I use Numbers a lot and can still use it the same in Yosemite. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite Bugs | VoiceOver Does Not Work with TextEdit in Portrait Layout
Okay, thanks, Cheryl, I’ll look into these. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: question about downloading audible books
I also don't bother with the accessible site. I have a Hazel rule set to import downloaded Audible books into iTunes and then trash the original file. This is nice and clean and avoids duplicates if, like me, you have iTunes set to copy imported media into your iTunes library. Cheryl, do a speed test. I wouldn't have considered it, but after trying Google Chrome downloads audible books much, much faster. It is very noticeable. For whatever reason audible books seem to take a long time to download in Safari for me, and every now and then one gets stuck, particularly if too many are downloading all at once. This used to happen when automatic downloads were enabled and I bought several multi-part books at once. For me, using Google Chrome, audible books download in seconds, whereas in Safari they take minutes, and more often tens of minutes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Workaround for opening pdfs in preview
I also confirm the work around has worked for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Recommendation for an external sound card for the mac needed.
Chris I have a sudden trip to San Fransisco. Is the best way to go no mail is to unsubscribe and resubscribe when I return home? Angus MacKinnon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Impressions of iCloud Drive so far?
Hi all I use iCloud Drive on both the Mac and PC, there is an app for iOS but it's only to view and open files currently, it's called Cloud Drive Explorer and is free, either way I like the service and am storing my own documents in there, I have my Apple ID protected with two factor authentication so am confident it's all safe, may pay for more storage in the future. On 25/10/2014 03:47, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I (perhaps unwisely) use Dropbox as primary storage for my files, with the obvious local backups just in case. However, I'd like to switch to iCloud Drive, so that my files will be more tightly integrated with iOS, and so I can pay for storage with my iTunes account. Before I do, I'd like to hear how others have found the service so far, if you use it. There was that bug that caused some folders to be erased if you did a settings reset on iOS, but aside from that I've heard nothing bad. Still, what do you think? Will you use it now, or wait? If the latter, why? Any accessibility problems (I expect not, but one never knows)? -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Time Machine won't start backup
Hi, I have been waiting for several hours now and Still Time Machine is still preparing a backup. Surely It should have started by now. a frustrated Max On 25 Oct 2014, at 1:19 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, It's likely not a problem. If your last backup was prior to Yosemite, then it will actually take a while to prepare the backup. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 24, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote: Hello, I am trying to do a Time Machine backup under Yosemite. For more than an hour Time Machine shows preparing backup. The last backup I did was on October 21st. I am not sure if that was before or after I installed Yosemite. Anybody else having any problems? Thanks for any help. Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
