Re: filling out a for in Safari on a Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Lorie,

To turn cursor tracking on or off, VO-Shift-F3.
When you need to find a command, press VO-h-h then type a key word and you will 
find the results by doing VO-Down Arrow.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 14 Nov 2018, at 01:31, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I've been trying to fill out a form in Safari on my Mac. it's problematic 
> because I can move from edit field to edit field with tab but I can't read 
> the labels to know what's supposed to go in them. if I vo left or right to 
> try to read them it gets me out of the edit fields. anybody have any 
> suggestions for this? I'm running Mojave. is there a keystroke for turning 
> cursor tracking on and off?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> My Youtube Channel:
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RE: VO at File Volt / Start up.

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah not sure who he is but he’s very slow.

Still better than a kick in the a.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 4:46 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.

Simon,

Yeah, it uses a basic speech at a very low level of the startup process.  It's 
not really VO, just a set of phrases that are spoken.  I believe it uses the 
good old Fred voice.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 01:45, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Yes it does appear to be a hardware thing now.

I do notice that on my 2018 mac book pro the vo voice is slower and almost 
straining when it says simply Username and Password.

Then a few seconds pass and it works as expected



From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 4:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.

Hi Simon,

Your various test-cases match my finings as well.  Older hardware produces the 
beep scenario when FV is enabled.  Newer hardware does speak "username" and 
"Password" at the FV login, but behaves with normal VO behaviours after the FV 
encryption has been accepted.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 12, 2018, at 01:43, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah
Well I’m having to question this now also.

My newish mac book pro with high sierra and file volt speaks fine with FV 
enabled.

I get the username prompt and then the password prompt as you are getting,
When I close the lid of the machine and reopen it to the log in,
Vo is already speaking and I only have to enter my password, all prompted with 
VO,
I had to check that file volt was enabled and fully setup.

That mac book pro is the non touch bar model and only 5 months give or take old.

However I have a mid 2012 Mac Book Pro running 10.13.6 which will not let vo 
speak what ever I do at the log in,
But it does have the single beep for username, password gives 3 if correct.

Even if I tick the box to say start vo at log in,
It still doesn’t talk.

My mac book air mid 2013 also speaks at the log in screan and it’s running 
10.14 as I’ve not updated it yet.

So I’m thinking it’s also relating to hardware and OS version

Either way the important thing is to be able to get in to the machine whether 
it talks or not.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2018 3:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.

For my MacBook Air that I purchased two years ago the single beep is replaced 
with a voice saying user name and the two beeps are replaced with the same 
voice saying password. It still has the three beeps, though sometimes those 
don't sound.

So, I expect that some of the behavior is based on the firmwaare.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







On Nov 10, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning All,

I've just enabled file volt on my Mac Book Pro 2018 running Mojave 10.14.1 and 
noted the following message down during the FV enabling

Hopefully it will answer a number of questions people have been having.

Important Message, Noted down.

Important VoiceOver Information:

When you log in to unlock an Encrypted Disk, VoiceOver is not available!

Instead Beeps indicate the LogIn Field in which the Kersor is located.


After your computer restarts follow these instructions to LogIn,

press CommandF5,
A Single beep indicates the LogIn Window is ready for input and the Kersor is 
positioned in the "Name" Field!
Type your "Username" and hit return,

If you hear a Single Beep the "Username" is Invalid,

Type the "Name" again
If you hear a Double Beep then the Name is Valid and your Kersor  is positioned 
in the "Password" Field,

Type your "Password" and hit Return,

If you hear a Double Beep your password is Invalid,

Type your Password again and if you hear 3 Beeps,

Then your Password is Valid and LogIn Preceeds...


HTH

Simon F

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RE: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

I did check it lastnight and one drive is an option, interesting though I 
couldn’t find drop box  or google drive,
Must have been somewhere I didn’t look,

Crazy though I also use file browser biz, for work and personal.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 4:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

Hi Simon,

If on iOS, you are totally correct.  There is no need for a third party app.  
The Files app that is stock with iOS devices has the ability to integrate 
DropBox iCloud Drive and Google Drive and to move files between them.  It may 
handle One Drive as well, but I don't have it and have never bothered to check.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 01:42, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

In fact thinking of this,

Can you not now do this through the files app on the iPhone or IOS 12?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Raymond Foret Jr
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 2:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

Don’t tare your  hair out.  The solution is easy.

First and foremost, you want to put Filebrowser on your iPhone.  The free 
version is what you want.

Now, you need to give it access to your Mac.  You will use your Mac’s user name 
and Mac password for this.  Once they are joined together, you need to do this.

1.  Focus on the file you want to bring over.

2.  Click the share sheet.  You will notice an item that says copy to files.  
Do this.  You will be asked for a location.  Choose iCloud drive.

3.  Now, open the Files app and from there, open your iCloud drive.

4.  Now, focus on and double tap the file you want to have an effect on.

5.  Now, inside the share sheet, you should notice an item that says “copy to 
File Browser”.  This is what you want.

6.  Now, at this point, you can choose any location that you have allowed File 
browser to have access to including your Mac and any folder or drive on it.  
Choose your preferred location and copy it.  You will see a progress bar 
informing you how much has  copied over and when it’s done.

7.  Now, go to your Mac and press shift+command+i to open iCloud drive.  You 
should find your file there.  From that point, you can move it wherever you 
want.

HTH.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi folks!
On my Ipad mini 4 i have saved a word file in google drive.
I want to move thisor copy it to dropbox or something more accessible so i can 
open it on my mac.
I can’t oen it in pages since i have google docs installed on my ipad mini 4.
And when i double tap the file i opens up in google docs which is not that 
great for editing.
So is it possible to for eample use google drive on the mac to import it to 
pages or something like that or copy it via the ipad?
I tried to find more actions but the only actions you can do on google drive is 
activate and  something like press and drag object.
My God have mercy on me!
/A

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filling out a for in Safari on a Mac

[Lorie McCloud]

I've been trying to fill out a form in Safari on my Mac. it's problematic 
because I can move from edit field to edit field with tab but I can't read the 
labels to know what's supposed to go in them. if I vo left or right to try to 
read them it gets me out of the edit fields. anybody have any suggestions for 
this? I'm running Mojave. is there a keystroke for turning cursor tracking on 
and off?

thanks.
Lorie
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Re: bulk deleting mail

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,

You might want to try using Inbox either at inbox.gmail.com or the inbox app on 
the phone.

Inbox does that Google automatic categorization stuff, but when you open a 
specific category on the iPhone version there are a few buttons along the top. 
These buttons will act either on every message (except tagged messages) or 
every selected message if you have at least one message selected.

The buttons are:
Bundle settings:  Mostly useful for turning on / off notifications.
delete all un pinned items or all selected items (if all unselected items then 
goes back to the main view)
Done: Archives unpinned or selected messages. 
Move to: pops up a list of folders. Can be used to recategorized messages that 
Google gets wrong or to save items into folders / Google label 

When looking at the list of messages with the action rotar, swiping  down 
brings up move to trash, swiping up is select item. Once one item is selected 
the default action for double tapping switches from open/activate to select . 
Other actions in the rotar are: pin, snooze,  There is also a snooze action in 
the rotor available by swiping in either direction twice.

 


Within individual messages you can also “snooze” and “pin” a message. These 
When you pin a message the bulk actions don’t effect it.
If you snooze a message you pick a time (later today , next week, next month …) 
and then the message disappears from Inbox until that time and you will get a 
notification and then the message will be “pinned”.

On the web interface it is also possible to find ways of selecting an entire 
list, but it is barely intuitive for those that can see, and I can only find it 
by backward and forward tabbing a few times through the standard google mail 
view.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


> On Nov 13, 2018, at 4:33 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It should work where deleting on the Mac deletes on the iPhone as long as 
> both the iPhone and the Mac have the gMail account set up as iMap.  If you've 
> confirmed that both are set up with the iMap protocol, then what you are 
> doing should work.  Deleting the messages on the Mac in the Mail app is much 
> easier than doing it in a browser or on the iPhone.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 13, 2018, at 10:22, Traci Duncan  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m hoping you guys have a better way to accomplish this.  Using mail on the 
> Mac, deleting a bulk group of messages rarely translates over to mail on my 
> phone.  I am using Imap and a gmail account.
> 
> Currently, I need to log into gmail on the web and bulk delete that way.  It 
> is cumbersome and time consuming.  Something I only do every other Month or 
> so.
> 
> Any recommendations to better manage mail?  I’d love to be able to do it via 
> a Mac app.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Is Safari less busy in Mojave?

[Jonathan Cohn]

AH yes, I highly recommend that you turn off cursor tracking while browsing 
Facebook with Safari, and it probably would not be a bad idea when viewing 
twitter either. In Facebook list of people that have liked a post, are expanded 
when focus moves to them, videos start playing and I believe the list of 
comments also is somewhat automatically expanded / contracted as focus moves. 
For this matter, I find best results with Facebook on Macintosh is to use the 
J/K to move next / previous through posts but this only really reads the posts 
when you have changed Web navigation from Dom to Group. 
 I remapped the enter key on my  numpad so that enter moves keyboard focus to 
VO cursor, and shift enter moves VO cursor to keyboard focus. There are a few 
places in the Macintosh environment where if cursor tracking is turned off, 
then VO click actions do not behave the way they should. I suppose if I was a 
good blind citizen I would report all of these to Apple. Certainly one other 
advantage of turning off cursor tracking is that you don’t get as many 
instances of VoiceOver repeating items as both Keyboard focus and VO focus move 
into new windows.

When VoiceOver was first shipped, they really pushed the group navigation mode 
on the web, but that is no longer the case. Sometimes it is nice as with 
Facebook there are usually descriptions and/or label names for the articles 
regions so that speech is limited to the appropriate level you don’t see the 
reactions or portions of comments until you interact with the posting article. 
There are some circumstances where group nav on the web causes links in the 
middle of a paragraph to be read either before or after the rest of the content 
in the paragraph, but I don’t think this happens with Facebook and group nav.

Of course all the above experience is associated with High Sierra or earlier 
versions of MacOS.

Take care!

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> Um, yes and no.
> 
> A lot depends on what is being used on websites. Some sites I go to cause 
> massive slowdowns, constant busy errors and sometimes even full blown crashes 
> of Safari (it has a lot to do with javascript and 3rd party redirects).
> 
> Also, some of the social media sites (namely Facebook and twitter) still 
> create windows of high busy periods.
> 
> In some ways, it is less problematic than in high Sierra). I would recommend 
> the use of both Chrome and Firefox as alternatives should Safari have issues 
> that are not locally resolvable..
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2018, at 8:13 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> One of the annoying things about High Sierra has been the frequency of 
>> Safari Busy messages I get.  Just wondering if this decreases at all in 
>> Mojave?  Appreciate any feedback.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Editing problem with Apple mail still exists

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I find it easiest to work in the edit area using arrow and text navigation 
without the VO keys.  So, interact with the edit area, then use up/down arrows 
to read line by line, use option-left/right to go word by word and just 
left/right to go letter by letter.  Note, I'm not adding the VO keys to this 
combination.  Know that if you're travelling right, the cursor will land at the 
end of whatever is spoken and vice-versa.  You should be able to properly and 
efficiently edit messages this way.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 09:39, Tom Frank  wrote:

Good morning,
I still cannot make corrections easily on my 2012 27 inch I Mac with Apple 
Mail. Today, I did find a work around. When correcting and  error, I interact 
with the text and move to where I want to make the correction. I delete errors 
and add new text. However, VO will not read the new text. I have to turn off VO 
and then turn it back on again. I reported the original bug to apple months 
ago. today when I called Apple support they said engineers are still working on 
the problem. the tech said he would escalate my report to the engineers. Let’s 
see what happens.

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Re: bulk deleting mail

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It should work where deleting on the Mac deletes on the iPhone as long as both 
the iPhone and the Mac have the gMail account set up as iMap.  If you've 
confirmed that both are set up with the iMap protocol, then what you are doing 
should work.  Deleting the messages on the Mac in the Mail app is much easier 
than doing it in a browser or on the iPhone.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 10:22, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all,

I’m hoping you guys have a better way to accomplish this.  Using mail on the 
Mac, deleting a bulk group of messages rarely translates over to mail on my 
phone.  I am using Imap and a gmail account.

Currently, I need to log into gmail on the web and bulk delete that way.  It is 
cumbersome and time consuming.  Something I only do every other Month or so.

Any recommendations to better manage mail?  I’d love to be able to do it via a 
Mac app.

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Is Safari less busy in Mojave?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting.  I've been thinking about downloading Chrome, but just haven't 
gotten around to it.  I'll keep all this in mind.  thanks, Erik.
Donna


> On Nov 13, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> Um, yes and no.
> 
> A lot depends on what is being used on websites. Some sites I go to cause 
> massive slowdowns, constant busy errors and sometimes even full blown crashes 
> of Safari (it has a lot to do with javascript and 3rd party redirects).
> 
> Also, some of the social media sites (namely Facebook and twitter) still 
> create windows of high busy periods.
> 
> In some ways, it is less problematic than in high Sierra). I would recommend 
> the use of both Chrome and Firefox as alternatives should Safari have issues 
> that are not locally resolvable..
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> One of the annoying things about High Sierra has been the frequency of 
>> Safari Busy messages I get.  Just wondering if this decreases at all in 
>> Mojave?  Appreciate any feedback.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

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Hi,

Backup & Sync for Google Drive is what you may wish to use.  I don't believe 
that it is in the Mac App Store.  You may wish to do a search for it and go 
from there.

Best.

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:35, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I think ii have the google drive on my mac but i can’t remember the name on it.
I guess its in the app store if i haven’t installed it?
/A

> 13 nov. 2018 kl. 04:21 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
> 
> hi,
> 
> If you install the Backup & Sync Desktop app for Google Drive on your Mac, 
> the file is simultaneously stored on your Mac and in Google Drive.  You can 
> then use these files like you would in DropBox and iCloud Drive.  If it is an 
> actual gDoc, then you will need to download it using the File menu in your 
> Google Doc browser page, which will download and translate it into a 
> Microsoft Word document.  Pages will open that just fine.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 18:06, Raymond Foret Jr  > wrote:
> 
> Don’t tare your  hair out.  The solution is easy.
> 
> First and foremost, you want to put Filebrowser on your iPhone.  The free 
> version is what you want.
> 
> Now, you need to give it access to your Mac.  You will use your Mac’s user 
> name and Mac password for this.  Once they are joined together, you need to 
> do this.
> 
> 1.  Focus on the file you want to bring over.
> 
> 2.  Click the share sheet.  You will notice an item that says copy to files.  
> Do this.  You will be asked for a location.  Choose iCloud drive.
> 
> 3.  Now, open the Files app and from there, open your iCloud drive.
> 
> 4.  Now, focus on and double tap the file you want to have an effect on.
> 
> 5.  Now, inside the share sheet, you should notice an item that says “copy to 
> File Browser”.  This is what you want.
> 
> 6.  Now, at this point, you can choose any location that you have allowed 
> File browser to have access to including your Mac and any folder or drive on 
> it.  Choose your preferred location and copy it.  You will see a progress bar 
> informing you how much has  copied over and when it’s done.
> 
> 7.  Now, go to your Mac and press shift+command+i to open iCloud drive.  You 
> should find your file there.  From that point, you can move it wherever you 
> want.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks!
>> On my Ipad mini 4 i have saved a word file in google drive.
>> I want to move thisor copy it to dropbox or something more accessible so i 
>> can open it on my mac.
>> I can’t oen it in pages since i have google docs installed on my ipad mini 4.
>> And when i double tap the file i opens up in google docs which is not that 
>> great for editing.
>> So is it possible to for eample use google drive on the mac to import it to 
>> pages or something like that or copy it via the ipad?
>> I tried to find more actions but the only actions you can do on google drive 
>> is activate and  something like press and drag object.
>> My God have mercy on me!
>> /A
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Re: Is Safari less busy in Mojave?

[Eric Oyen]

Um, yes and no.

A lot depends on what is being used on websites. Some sites I go to cause 
massive slowdowns, constant busy errors and sometimes even full blown crashes 
of Safari (it has a lot to do with javascript and 3rd party redirects).

Also, some of the social media sites (namely Facebook and twitter) still create 
windows of high busy periods.

In some ways, it is less problematic than in high Sierra). I would recommend 
the use of both Chrome and Firefox as alternatives should Safari have issues 
that are not locally resolvable..

-Eric


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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> One of the annoying things about High Sierra has been the frequency of Safari 
> Busy messages I get.  Just wondering if this decreases at all in Mojave?  
> Appreciate any feedback.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I think ii have the google drive on my mac but i can’t remember the name on it.
I guess its in the app store if i haven’t installed it?
/A

> 13 nov. 2018 kl. 04:21 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> hi,
> 
> If you install the Backup & Sync Desktop app for Google Drive on your Mac, 
> the file is simultaneously stored on your Mac and in Google Drive.  You can 
> then use these files like you would in DropBox and iCloud Drive.  If it is an 
> actual gDoc, then you will need to download it using the File menu in your 
> Google Doc browser page, which will download and translate it into a 
> Microsoft Word document.  Pages will open that just fine.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 18:06, Raymond Foret Jr  > wrote:
> 
> Don’t tare your  hair out.  The solution is easy.
> 
> First and foremost, you want to put Filebrowser on your iPhone.  The free 
> version is what you want.
> 
> Now, you need to give it access to your Mac.  You will use your Mac’s user 
> name and Mac password for this.  Once they are joined together, you need to 
> do this.
> 
> 1.  Focus on the file you want to bring over.
> 
> 2.  Click the share sheet.  You will notice an item that says copy to files.  
> Do this.  You will be asked for a location.  Choose iCloud drive.
> 
> 3.  Now, open the Files app and from there, open your iCloud drive.
> 
> 4.  Now, focus on and double tap the file you want to have an effect on.
> 
> 5.  Now, inside the share sheet, you should notice an item that says “copy to 
> File Browser”.  This is what you want.
> 
> 6.  Now, at this point, you can choose any location that you have allowed 
> File browser to have access to including your Mac and any folder or drive on 
> it.  Choose your preferred location and copy it.  You will see a progress bar 
> informing you how much has  copied over and when it’s done.
> 
> 7.  Now, go to your Mac and press shift+command+i to open iCloud drive.  You 
> should find your file there.  From that point, you can move it wherever you 
> want.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks!
>> On my Ipad mini 4 i have saved a word file in google drive.
>> I want to move thisor copy it to dropbox or something more accessible so i 
>> can open it on my mac.
>> I can’t oen it in pages since i have google docs installed on my ipad mini 4.
>> And when i double tap the file i opens up in google docs which is not that 
>> great for editing.
>> So is it possible to for eample use google drive on the mac to import it to 
>> pages or something like that or copy it via the ipad?
>> I tried to find more actions but the only actions you can do on google drive 
>> is activate and  something like press and drag object.
>> My God have mercy on me!
>> /A
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Re: Preparing an old iPad for a new home

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Which should take cafe of that list by the way.

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On 11/13/2018 10:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I have an iPad mini 2 which is going to a new home tomorrow. Here’s the 
question. I know I have to completely reset it so all my stuff is off of it. 
And I also need to take it out of the list of devices that have access to my 
Apple ID. Which comes first? The reset or taking it out of my devices list?
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Re: Preparing an old iPad for a new home

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And I also need to take it out of the list of devices that have access to my 
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Preparing an old iPad for a new home

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I have an iPad mini 2 which is going to a new home tomorrow. Here’s the 
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bulk deleting mail

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Hi all,

I’m hoping you guys have a better way to accomplish this.  Using mail on the 
Mac, deleting a bulk group of messages rarely translates over to mail on my 
phone.  I am using Imap and a gmail account.

Currently, I need to log into gmail on the web and bulk delete that way.  It is 
cumbersome and time consuming.  Something I only do every other Month or so.

Any recommendations to better manage mail?  I’d love to be able to do it via a 
Mac app.

Thanks,
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Re: Is Safari less busy in Mojave?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks.  That's good to hear.  Hopefully I'll see the same improvement.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 10:10 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> It definitely decreased for me after moving to Mojave.
> 
> 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:
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Editing problem with Apple mail still exists

[Tom Frank]

Good morning,
I still cannot make corrections easily on my 2012 27 inch I Mac with Apple 
Mail. Today, I did find a work around. When correcting and  error, I interact 
with the text and move to where I want to make the correction. I delete errors 
and add new text. However, VO will not read the new text. I have to turn off VO 
and then turn it back on again. I reported the original bug to apple months 
ago. today when I called Apple support they said engineers are still working on 
the problem. the tech said he would escalate my report to the engineers. Let’s 
see what happens.

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Re: Forgot password for my secure notes

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello.

The reset option for notes password is in settings, notes, password. 

you can reset the password for notes, but locked notes will only open if you 
remember the password with which you blocked them, even if you reset the 
password for the notes that you create from now on.

If you remember the pass for a note locked before you reset the password, once 
you open it, the system will give the option to update the pass for the new 
one. How ever, if you can’t remember the password that you used specifically 
when you blocked that note, the only solution is to delete it, because there is 
no way you can recover it.

I hope you did not lose any vital info. It just happened to me, and I had to 
ask help to rewrite my credit card data.

Hope it helps.

Best, Daniela


> El 13 nov 2018, a las 16:40, Andrew Lamanche  
> escribió:
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> Hi,
> 
> That’s the problem: I have a few notes that are locked but I cannot for the 
> world remember the password.  Is it possible to reset the password for locked 
> notes?  I can’t find the option anywhere.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Is Safari less busy in Mojave?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

It definitely decreased for me after moving to Mojave.

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> One of the annoying things about High Sierra has been the frequency of Safari 
> Busy messages I get.  Just wondering if this decreases at all in Mojave?  
> Appreciate any feedback.
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Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

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Hi Simon,

If on iOS, you are totally correct.  There is no need for a third party app.  
The Files app that is stock with iOS devices has the ability to integrate 
DropBox iCloud Drive and Google Drive and to move files between them.  It may 
handle One Drive as well, but I don't have it and have never bothered to check.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 01:42, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

In fact thinking of this,
 
Can you not now do this through the files app on the iPhone or IOS 12?
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Raymond Foret Jr
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 2:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.
 
Don’t tare your  hair out.  The solution is easy.
 
First and foremost, you want to put Filebrowser on your iPhone.  The free 
version is what you want.
 
Now, you need to give it access to your Mac.  You will use your Mac’s user name 
and Mac password for this.  Once they are joined together, you need to do this.
 
1.  Focus on the file you want to bring over.
 
2.  Click the share sheet.  You will notice an item that says copy to files.  
Do this.  You will be asked for a location.  Choose iCloud drive.
 
3.  Now, open the Files app and from there, open your iCloud drive.
 
4.  Now, focus on and double tap the file you want to have an effect on.
 
5.  Now, inside the share sheet, you should notice an item that says “copy to 
File Browser”.  This is what you want.
 
6.  Now, at this point, you can choose any location that you have allowed File 
browser to have access to including your Mac and any folder or drive on it.  
Choose your preferred location and copy it.  You will see a progress bar 
informing you how much has  copied over and when it’s done.
 
7.  Now, go to your Mac and press shift+command+i to open iCloud drive.  You 
should find your file there.  From that point, you can move it wherever you 
want.
 
HTH.
 
 
Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray
 
On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Anders Holmberg mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
 
Hi folks!
On my Ipad mini 4 i have saved a word file in google drive.
I want to move thisor copy it to dropbox or something more accessible so i can 
open it on my mac.
I can’t oen it in pages since i have google docs installed on my ipad mini 4.
And when i double tap the file i opens up in google docs which is not that 
great for editing.
So is it possible to for eample use google drive on the mac to import it to 
pages or something like that or copy it via the ipad?
I tried to find more actions but the only actions you can do on google drive is 
activate and  something like press and drag object.
My God have mercy on me!
/A

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Re: How to move to the top of list in a file folder?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

thanks, Tim.
Donna


> On Nov 13, 2018, at 9:42 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
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> Make sure that you've interacted with the list, then you can either use 
> Option-up/down or VO-FN-shift-left/right to take you to the beginning/end of 
> things.
> 
> Later...
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> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Hi again all,
> 
> I realize this is a dumb question, but nothing I do seems to work.  Is there 
> any way to jump to the top of the list in a file folder?
> TIA,
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Re: How to move to the top of list in a file folder?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hey, that worked!  thank you!  I'd tried CMD and  CMd-Option, but not just 
option.  
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
> wrote:
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> In a file folder, I press option+up arrow to get to the top of the list and 
> option+down arrow to jump to the bottom.
> 
> Andrew
>> On Nov 13, 2018, at 3:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi again all,
>> 
>> I realize this is a dumb question, but nothing I do seems to work.  Is there 
>> any way to jump to the top of the list in a file folder?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Simon,

Yeah, it uses a basic speech at a very low level of the startup process.  It's 
not really VO, just a set of phrases that are spoken.  I believe it uses the 
good old Fred voice.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 01:45, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 
Yes it does appear to be a hardware thing now.
 
I do notice that on my 2018 mac book pro the vo voice is slower and almost 
straining when it says simply Username and Password.
 
Then a few seconds pass and it works as expected
 
 
 
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 4:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.
 
Hi Simon,
 
Your various test-cases match my finings as well.  Older hardware produces the 
beep scenario when FV is enabled.  Newer hardware does speak "username" and 
"Password" at the FV login, but behaves with normal VO behaviours after the FV 
encryption has been accepted.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 12, 2018, at 01:43, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Yeah 
Well I’m having to question this now also.
 
My newish mac book pro with high sierra and file volt speaks fine with FV 
enabled.
 
I get the username prompt and then the password prompt as you are getting,
When I close the lid of the machine and reopen it to the log in,
Vo is already speaking and I only have to enter my password, all prompted with 
VO,
I had to check that file volt was enabled and fully setup.
 
That mac book pro is the non touch bar model and only 5 months give or take old.
 
However I have a mid 2012 Mac Book Pro running 10.13.6 which will not let vo 
speak what ever I do at the log in,
But it does have the single beep for username, password gives 3 if correct.
 
Even if I tick the box to say start vo at log in,
It still doesn’t talk.
 
My mac book air mid 2013 also speaks at the log in screan and it’s running 
10.14 as I’ve not updated it yet.
 
So I’m thinking it’s also relating to hardware and OS version
 
Either way the important thing is to be able to get in to the machine whether 
it talks or not.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2018 3:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.
 
For my MacBook Air that I purchased two years ago the single beep is replaced 
with a voice saying user name and the two beeps are replaced with the same 
voice saying password. It still has the three beeps, though sometimes those 
don't sound.
 
So, I expect that some of the behavior is based on the firmwaare.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn






On Nov 10, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Simon Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
 
Morning All,

I've just enabled file volt on my Mac Book Pro 2018 running Mojave 10.14.1 and 
noted the following message down during the FV enabling 

Hopefully it will answer a number of questions people have been having.

Important Message, Noted down.

Important VoiceOver Information:

When you log in to unlock an Encrypted Disk, VoiceOver is not available!

Instead Beeps indicate the LogIn Field in which the Kersor is located.


After your computer restarts follow these instructions to LogIn,

press CommandF5, 
A Single beep indicates the LogIn Window is ready for input and the Kersor is 
positioned in the "Name" Field!
Type your "Username" and hit return,

If you hear a Single Beep the "Username" is Invalid,

Type the "Name" again 
If you hear a Double Beep then the Name is Valid and your Kersor  is positioned 
in the "Password" Field,

Type your "Password" and hit Return, 

If you hear a Double Beep your password is Invalid,

Type your Password again and if you hear 3 Beeps,

Then your Password is Valid and LogIn Preceeds...


HTH

Simon F

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Re: How to move to the top of list in a file folder?

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Hi,

Make sure that you've interacted with the list, then you can either use 
Option-up/down or VO-FN-shift-left/right to take you to the beginning/end of 
things.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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Hi again all,

I realize this is a dumb question, but nothing I do seems to work.  Is there 
any way to jump to the top of the list in a file folder?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: How to move to the top of list in a file folder?

[Andrew Lamanche]

In a file folder, I press option+up arrow to get to the top of the list and 
option+down arrow to jump to the bottom.

Andrew
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> Hi again all,
> 
> I realize this is a dumb question, but nothing I do seems to work.  Is there 
> any way to jump to the top of the list in a file folder?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Forgot password for my secure notes

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

That’s the problem: I have a few notes that are locked but I cannot for the 
world remember the password.  Is it possible to reset the password for locked 
notes?  I can’t find the option anywhere.

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How to move to the top of list in a file folder?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi again all,

I realize this is a dumb question, but nothing I do seems to work.  Is there 
any way to jump to the top of the list in a file folder?
TIA,
Donna

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Is Safari less busy in Mojave?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

One of the annoying things about High Sierra has been the frequency of Safari 
Busy messages I get.  Just wondering if this decreases at all in Mojave?  
Appreciate any feedback.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: time to replace the 2010 MBP

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

That's only sort of true.  They handle Thunderbolt 3, USB C directly and most 
other connections with various adaptors including USB A and regular Thunderbolt.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 13, 2018, at 01:21, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

No, they actually only have USB-C ports which handle only thunderbolt 3 
connections,
 
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 4:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: time to replace the 2010 MBP
 
I believe the new macbook air and pro have thunderbolt ports that handle only 
usb c devices?
 
Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 
From: 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 9:41 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: time to replace the 2010 MBP
 
Sorry, I may have read wrong. I believe you said you are using (or getting) a 
new Mac with only USBC? If that's the case you'll need to have a way for the 
USB-A (the older ports you probably think of when you think USB) to talk to the 
new USB-C ports. That's the adapter I'm talking about. The number, like USB2 or 
USB3, is more about the speed than any physical changes.

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On Nov 10, 2018, at 19:13, Sarai Bucciarelli mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Why do I need an adapter if USB 3 is backwards compatible?
 
Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 
From: 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 5:42 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: time to replace the 2010 MBP
 
Anything will work, as USB3 is backward-comptabile with the USB2 on your old 
Mac. I'd definitely get a USB3 storage device, even though it's more expensive, 
because it will be a lot faster.
 
As to the question of connection types, that's what adapters are for. Grab a 
USBC adapter or three, or a hub, to connect your drive. If the drive is USBC, 
then you'll need the opposite adapter to connect the drive to the old Mac. 
Either way, make sure the adapter is able to handle USB3 speeds, as cheap 
adapters that can't will bottleneck your transfers.

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On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Sarai Bucciarelli mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi all:
My April 2010 MBP over-halled with an SSD is getting long in the tooth with 
Voiceover, as well as cannot be updated anymore.
So, all of my Windows machines, and my Mac have the regular 2.0 USB port.
The MBP or MBA have these new thunderbolt ports. If I want to by an external 
HD, or a thumb drive to transfer items between the old mac, the new mac, and 
Windows machine, what kind of HD and thumb drive  am I looking for?
 
Leaning towards getting the new MBA, but it depends on what good deals crop up 
around Thanksgiving.
 
Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 
 
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RE: VO at File Volt / Start up.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Yes it does appear to be a hardware thing now.

I do notice that on my 2018 mac book pro the vo voice is slower and almost 
straining when it says simply Username and Password.

Then a few seconds pass and it works as expected



From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 4:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.

Hi Simon,

Your various test-cases match my finings as well.  Older hardware produces the 
beep scenario when FV is enabled.  Newer hardware does speak "username" and 
"Password" at the FV login, but behaves with normal VO behaviours after the FV 
encryption has been accepted.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 12, 2018, at 01:43, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yeah
Well I’m having to question this now also.

My newish mac book pro with high sierra and file volt speaks fine with FV 
enabled.

I get the username prompt and then the password prompt as you are getting,
When I close the lid of the machine and reopen it to the log in,
Vo is already speaking and I only have to enter my password, all prompted with 
VO,
I had to check that file volt was enabled and fully setup.

That mac book pro is the non touch bar model and only 5 months give or take old.

However I have a mid 2012 Mac Book Pro running 10.13.6 which will not let vo 
speak what ever I do at the log in,
But it does have the single beep for username, password gives 3 if correct.

Even if I tick the box to say start vo at log in,
It still doesn’t talk.

My mac book air mid 2013 also speaks at the log in screan and it’s running 
10.14 as I’ve not updated it yet.

So I’m thinking it’s also relating to hardware and OS version

Either way the important thing is to be able to get in to the machine whether 
it talks or not.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2018 3:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO at File Volt / Start up.

For my MacBook Air that I purchased two years ago the single beep is replaced 
with a voice saying user name and the two beeps are replaced with the same 
voice saying password. It still has the three beeps, though sometimes those 
don't sound.

So, I expect that some of the behavior is based on the firmwaare.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn





On Nov 10, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Morning All,

I've just enabled file volt on my Mac Book Pro 2018 running Mojave 10.14.1 and 
noted the following message down during the FV enabling

Hopefully it will answer a number of questions people have been having.

Important Message, Noted down.

Important VoiceOver Information:

When you log in to unlock an Encrypted Disk, VoiceOver is not available!

Instead Beeps indicate the LogIn Field in which the Kersor is located.


After your computer restarts follow these instructions to LogIn,

press CommandF5,
A Single beep indicates the LogIn Window is ready for input and the Kersor is 
positioned in the "Name" Field!
Type your "Username" and hit return,

If you hear a Single Beep the "Username" is Invalid,

Type the "Name" again
If you hear a Double Beep then the Name is Valid and your Kersor  is positioned 
in the "Password" Field,

Type your "Password" and hit Return,

If you hear a Double Beep your password is Invalid,

Type your Password again and if you hear 3 Beeps,

Then your Password is Valid and LogIn Preceeds...


HTH

Simon F

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RE: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

[Simon Fogarty]

In fact thinking of this,

Can you not now do this through the files app on the iPhone or IOS 12?

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

Don’t tare your  hair out.  The solution is easy.

First and foremost, you want to put Filebrowser on your iPhone.  The free 
version is what you want.

Now, you need to give it access to your Mac.  You will use your Mac’s user name 
and Mac password for this.  Once they are joined together, you need to do this.

1.  Focus on the file you want to bring over.

2.  Click the share sheet.  You will notice an item that says copy to files.  
Do this.  You will be asked for a location.  Choose iCloud drive.

3.  Now, open the Files app and from there, open your iCloud drive.

4.  Now, focus on and double tap the file you want to have an effect on.

5.  Now, inside the share sheet, you should notice an item that says “copy to 
File Browser”.  This is what you want.

6.  Now, at this point, you can choose any location that you have allowed File 
browser to have access to including your Mac and any folder or drive on it.  
Choose your preferred location and copy it.  You will see a progress bar 
informing you how much has  copied over and when it’s done.

7.  Now, go to your Mac and press shift+command+i to open iCloud drive.  You 
should find your file there.  From that point, you can move it wherever you 
want.

HTH.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

On Nov 12, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Anders Holmberg 
mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi folks!
On my Ipad mini 4 i have saved a word file in google drive.
I want to move thisor copy it to dropbox or something more accessible so i can 
open it on my mac.
I can’t oen it in pages since i have google docs installed on my ipad mini 4.
And when i double tap the file i opens up in google docs which is not that 
great for editing.
So is it possible to for eample use google drive on the mac to import it to 
pages or something like that or copy it via the ipad?
I tried to find more actions but the only actions you can do on google drive is 
activate and  something like press and drag object.
My God have mercy on me!
/A

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RE: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

[Simon Fogarty]

If you have the document in Microsoft Word then why not setup either iCloud 
drive or One Drive / Drop Box  open the document in word on your iPad and then 
save it to one of the other cloud storage areas,

 Or simply open google drive on your mac book and open the file from there.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 12:06 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Frustrated, can't copy from google drive on Ipad mini 4.

Hi folks!
On my Ipad mini 4 i have saved a word file in google drive.
I want to move thisor copy it to dropbox or something more accessible so i can 
open it on my mac.
I can’t oen it in pages since i have google docs installed on my ipad mini 4.
And when i double tap the file i opens up in google docs which is not that 
great for editing.
So is it possible to for eample use google drive on the mac to import it to 
pages or something like that or copy it via the ipad?
I tried to find more actions but the only actions you can do on google drive is 
activate and  something like press and drag object.
My God have mercy on me!
/A

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RE: time to replace the 2010 MBP

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I got half a dozen USB-C to USB A adapters from ali express for 2 USA 
dollars,

Infact shipping was twice that.

I’ve also got 2 USB-C Hubs one which has 2 USB-3 ports,
1 HDMI,
1 SD card slot and another USB-C pass through for power and Ethernet
 And it’s small enough to fit in my pocket
I’ve got another one which has a couple more USB-3 ports and VGA  and they are 
really handy to have around.

I could suggest one of those if you needed to extend ports.

From: 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Monday, 12 November 2018 10:34 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: time to replace the 2010 MBP

Correct. That's why you need adapters to go from USB type A, which most drives 
and other connectors still are for now, to the new USB type C. Thunderbolt is 
just a speed standard defining the speed of data transfer over the port, it's 
not a physical aspect of the port's shape.

--
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On Nov 11, 2018, at 10:41, Sarai Bucciarelli 
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I believe the new macbook air and pro have thunderbolt ports that handle only 
usb c devices?

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

From: 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 9:41 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: time to replace the 2010 MBP

Sorry, I may have read wrong. I believe you said you are using (or getting) a 
new Mac with only USBC? If that's the case you'll need to have a way for the 
USB-A (the older ports you probably think of when you think USB) to talk to the 
new USB-C ports. That's the adapter I'm talking about. The number, like USB2 or 
USB3, is more about the speed than any physical changes.

--
Alex Hall






On Nov 10, 2018, at 19:13, Sarai Bucciarelli 
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Why do I need an adapter if USB 3 is backwards compatible?

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

From: 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 5:42 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: time to replace the 2010 MBP

Anything will work, as USB3 is backward-comptabile with the USB2 on your old 
Mac. I'd definitely get a USB3 storage device, even though it's more expensive, 
because it will be a lot faster.

As to the question of connection types, that's what adapters are for. Grab a 
USBC adapter or three, or a hub, to connect your drive. If the drive is USBC, 
then you'll need the opposite adapter to connect the drive to the old Mac. 
Either way, make sure the adapter is able to handle USB3 speeds, as cheap 
adapters that can't will bottleneck your transfers.

--
Alex Hall







On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Sarai Bucciarelli 
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:
My April 2010 MBP over-halled with an SSD is getting long in the tooth with 
Voiceover, as well as cannot be updated anymore.
So, all of my Windows machines, and my Mac have the regular 2.0 USB port.
The MBP or MBA have these new thunderbolt ports. If I want to by an external 
HD, or a thumb drive to transfer items between the old mac, the new mac, and 
Windows machine, what kind of HD and thumb drive  am I looking for?

Leaning towards getting the new MBA, but it depends on what good deals crop up 
around Thanksgiving.

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli


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RE: time to replace the 2010 MBP

[Simon Fogarty]

No, they actually only have USB-C ports which handle only thunderbolt 3 
connections,



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I believe the new macbook air and pro have thunderbolt ports that handle only 
usb c devices?

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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Sorry, I may have read wrong. I believe you said you are using (or getting) a 
new Mac with only USBC? If that's the case you'll need to have a way for the 
USB-A (the older ports you probably think of when you think USB) to talk to the 
new USB-C ports. That's the adapter I'm talking about. The number, like USB2 or 
USB3, is more about the speed than any physical changes.

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On Nov 10, 2018, at 19:13, Sarai Bucciarelli 
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Why do I need an adapter if USB 3 is backwards compatible?

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
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Anything will work, as USB3 is backward-comptabile with the USB2 on your old 
Mac. I'd definitely get a USB3 storage device, even though it's more expensive, 
because it will be a lot faster.

As to the question of connection types, that's what adapters are for. Grab a 
USBC adapter or three, or a hub, to connect your drive. If the drive is USBC, 
then you'll need the opposite adapter to connect the drive to the old Mac. 
Either way, make sure the adapter is able to handle USB3 speeds, as cheap 
adapters that can't will bottleneck your transfers.

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On Nov 10, 2018, at 17:46, Sarai Bucciarelli 
mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all:
My April 2010 MBP over-halled with an SSD is getting long in the tooth with 
Voiceover, as well as cannot be updated anymore.
So, all of my Windows machines, and my Mac have the regular 2.0 USB port.
The MBP or MBA have these new thunderbolt ports. If I want to by an external 
HD, or a thumb drive to transfer items between the old mac, the new mac, and 
Windows machine, what kind of HD and thumb drive  am I looking for?

Leaning towards getting the new MBA, but it depends on what good deals crop up 
around Thanksgiving.

Sarai D Bucciarelli 
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