Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Mark,
Donna is correct. I use my iPhone and my Apple Watch. 

The audio description is a good feature, but sometimes they  are played after 
the first round of exercises. I’ve found sometimes that I have to do the 
workout twice to get all the descriptions. If you are using VoiceOver, you do 
not have to do anything. The description will automatically play. The 
descriptions are very brief.  You might want to turn VoiceOver’s volume up as 
the descriptions can go over the trainer’s voice.

Best,
Janet



Some 
> On Jul 5, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Here’s what I do.
> 
> First, choose the kind of workout you want, HIT, strength, core, cycling, 
> rowing, etc.  I use my iPad, and on the top of the screen you can select a 
> workout category.  Alternatively, there are a bunch of workouts listed below 
> that, so if you want you can just scroll through them.  Once you’ve selected 
> a workout in your category, double tap to open it.  You can see lots of 
> information, including the music selections included in that workout.  For me 
> the music matters, because I’m not crazy about most of their music choices.  
> When you find one you like, tap Let’s Go.  Then do whatever setup you need. 
> For example, at that point, I get on my rower, strap my feet in, and set the 
> tension where I want it.  Once you’re done doing that, Press Play.  The 
> Workout will start.  Unless you’ve chosen another playback destination, it 
> will play on your hand-held device, but your watch will track along as well, 
> keeping track of time, calories, heart rate, and all the usual stuff.  When 
> the workout is over, just tap done.  I recommend that you try a few different 
> trainers to find the one who’s style you like best.
> 
> The additional thing to bear in mind is that if you want to play it to a 
> HomePod, as I do, you actually have to start the workout, go into Control 
> Center, select your HomePod in Playback destination, then end, and restart 
> your workout.  It’s a pain, I know.  It’s at the top of my list of desired 
> improvements from Apple.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Cheers,
> Donna 
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 12:39 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Janet,
>> 
>> I do not have any specific questions but just wanted to know how best to 
>> start.  
>> 
>> For example, I tried it last year, or so, just before they added a 
>> description feature to the accessibility set.  Do you know how this works?  
>> 
>> I guess what I am asking is should I start the fitness app on my phone and 
>> let it attach to my watch or should I start on the watch?  I just don't know.
>> 
>> Earlier, today, I launched the fitness app on my Apple TV and was asked who 
>> is going to work out.  It listed my phone with my watch and it listed the 
>> watch, by itself.  So confusing!!!  
>> 
>> Any tips you care to pass along will be greatly appreciated.  Perhaps you 
>> could describe how you use the app?
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Janet Ingber
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:23 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very 
>> well with the Apple Watch. 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of 
>> questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.
>> 
>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.
>> 
>> 1.
>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it 
>> because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite 
>> frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being 
>> able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, 
>> very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus 
>> such that as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?
>> 
>> 2.
>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get 
>> started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?
>> 
>> 3.
>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I 
>> must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card, 
>> at time 

Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Mark,
I can help you with Apple Fitness+. What are your questions? It works very well 
with the Apple Watch. 
Best,
Janet

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 4, 2023, at 7:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple of
questions I have can be answered by experts on either list.

Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US.

1.
So I finally decided to give Apple One a try.  I have been resistant to it
because I do not need all of the features included in the plan but, quite
frankly, the billing is better when bundled.  I have to admit that being
able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very,
very nice.  Here is a question:  Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus
such that as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO?

2.
With regard to Apple Fitness Plus:  Any suggestions as to how best to get
started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch?

3.
Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay.  I
must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the non-default card,
at time of purchase, is so easy.  I had been reluctant to add a second card,
for just that reason.

4.
Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of these,
apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward to watching
Highjacked and Silo.

5.
I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in terms of
technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two remaining
hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running Windows 7  The
Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet.

6.
Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot imagine using
them as a primary means of navigating my life.

7.
Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread that asked
about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and range extenders.  In
fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my home, just last week.  I was
delighted to discover that when you connect to these devices, for the first
time, on an iOS device, the device's built-in web interface automatically
launches, prompting you for the required info.  Very, very, impressive.  In
fact, now that I think about it, these new devices can tell you when they
are in the best location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same
network.  How wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only
scratched the surface on all that is to come.

Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply to this
thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also.

Mark


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Re: Dropbox on Mac

[Janet Ingber]

List view. 

> On Jun 8, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Are you using list view or Column view?
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2023, at 06:24, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> How do I add a file to a shared folder? I’ve tried Copy and Paste, but 
>> instead of going into the folder, my copy is at the bottom of the window. In 
>> other words, it’s past all my Dropbox folders and files.
>> 
>> Any idea?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Janet
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:38 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The dropbox mac application works fine, at least it does for me.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> Does anyone know of an accessible Dropbox app for the Mac? I’m not crazy 
>>>> about using the Dropbox website to upload files.
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Janet
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Re: Dropbox on Mac

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Mike,
How do I add a file to a shared folder? I’ve tried Copy and Paste, but instead 
of going into the folder, my copy is at the bottom of the window. In other 
words, it’s past all my Dropbox folders and files.

Any idea?

Best,
Janet

> On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:38 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> The dropbox mac application works fine, at least it does for me.
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> Does anyone know of an accessible Dropbox app for the Mac? I’m not crazy 
>> about using the Dropbox website to upload files.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Janet
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Re: Dropbox on Mac

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Cara,
Thanks for your help. Actually, the folder was sent to me and I accepted the 
request.

If I copy and paste the new file into the folder, it does not sync. My Dropbox 
does sync with my Mac and iPhone.

Thanks again,
Janet

> On Jun 7, 2023, at 4:10 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Janet,
> 
> Is this a folder that you have created and shared with others? If it is, then 
> they will need to accept the invitation that Dropbox sends them and add that 
> folder to their Dropbox. At least this is how it worked last time I did it. I 
> use Dropbox all the time but haven’t shared a folder in a couple of months. 
> So hopefully this helps.
> 
> Once they have added that folder to their Dropbox, you or they can add or 
> delete files and it will synchronize for both of you.
> 
> Again, hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 2:02 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for all the great answer. I did  get Dropbox installed on my Mac. I 
>> can’t figure out how to send a link so someone can share  a file. Also, I 
>> thought if I were using a shared folder, putting a file in the folder would 
>> automatically make it accessible with the other people who have access to 
>> the shared folder. Apparently I’m wrong or am doing something wrong. Any 
>> help is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Janet
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Make sure the other computer is also sinking and on the same account.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 03:46,  
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dropbox on Mac for me isn't sinking data. It says it sinks, but when I use 
>>>> another computer cannot find the files.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:22 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Dropbox on Mac
>>>> 
>>>> From the Website, download the Dropbox app and that will make your life 
>>>> much simpler. The one thing they did break recently is the way you access 
>>>> it through the Menu Extras. You now have to route your VO cursor with 
>>>> Command VO F5 and then VO Shift space, but that’s Livable. Also, I find 
>>>> Chrome works better for the site when doing things like recovering deleted 
>>>> files.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 20:10, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>> Does anyone know of an accessible Dropbox app for the Mac? I’m not crazy 
>>>>> about using the Dropbox website to upload files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Janet
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Re: Dropbox on Mac

[Janet Ingber]

Thanks for all the great answer. I did  get Dropbox installed on my Mac. I 
can’t figure out how to send a link so someone can share  a file. Also, I 
thought if I were using a shared folder, putting a file in the folder would 
automatically make it accessible with the other people who have access to the 
shared folder. Apparently I’m wrong or am doing something wrong. Any help is 
greatly appreciated.

Janet

> On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Make sure the other computer is also sinking and on the same account.
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 03:46,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dropbox on Mac for me isn't sinking data. It says it sinks, but when I use 
>> another computer cannot find the files.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:22 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dropbox on Mac
>> 
>> From the Website, download the Dropbox app and that will make your life much 
>> simpler. The one thing they did break recently is the way you access it 
>> through the Menu Extras. You now have to route your VO cursor with Command 
>> VO F5 and then VO Shift space, but that’s Livable. Also, I find Chrome works 
>> better for the site when doing things like recovering deleted files.
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 20:10, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> Does anyone know of an accessible Dropbox app for the Mac? I’m not crazy 
>>> about using the Dropbox website to upload files.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Janet
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Dropbox on Mac

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know of an accessible Dropbox app for the Mac? I’m not crazy about 
using the Dropbox website to upload files.

Many thanks,
Janet

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Re: Switching among Open Files in a Single App

[Janet Ingber]

Hi,
Use Command-` (grave accent.).

Best,
Janet

> On Dec 16, 2022, at 2:23 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> My question is about Switching among Open Files in a Single App.
> How can I move file-to-file in a single app, please?
> Thanks!
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Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Karen, 

If Herbie can give you materials that would be great. Big Sur is the operating 
system after Catalina. Here’s the AccessWorld article about it:
https://www.afb.org/aw/20/12/16850 

If you still want a teacher, email me off list.

HTH,
Janet


> On Dec 8, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> MayI have that too, please?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Herbie Allen
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 1:46 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing 
> competence.
> 
> I might be able to give you some old training material regarding Catalina, 
> but most things are the same. Messages and calendar are vastly different, and 
> mail has some minor changes and you may have a slightly different look with 
> System preferences. 
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 15:36, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> may I ask how much this data connects with Catalina?
>> Finding it personally frustrating,  and would welcome a solid outside of the 
>> system itself resource.  Or better still  an in person teacher whom I am 
>> happy to pay.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Janet Ingber wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Devin,
>>> 
>>> My book about the Mac is available on the National Braille Press website. 
>>> However, it is about the basics of using the Mac and information about the 
>>> Big Sur operating system. NBP does not update the book annually. Here’s the 
>>> link:
>>> https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html?from_search=1
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and 
>>>> VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else?
>>>> 
>>>> Devin Prater
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks so very much to all who replied.
>>>>> you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better 
>>>>> than the sense of dread I was developing.
>>>>> you all have been most helpful.
>>>>> I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in 
>>>>> posting them.
>>>>> Best to all, Marlene.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page 
>>>>>> (summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands):
>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a 
>>>>>>> Mac user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white 
>>>>>>> polycarbon plastic MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC 
>>>>>>> the same day so I was forced to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to 
>>>>>>> learn the OS and I've been loving the Mac ever since. Someone said on 
>>>>>>> this list a while ago that if you really want to learn how to use this 
>>>>>>> platform, you should forget everything you know about Windows and to 
>>>>>>> not use your PC as a crutch when you're frustrated with the Mac. They 
>>>>>>> were great words and I took them to heart. I think that's why I'm very 
>>>>>>> good at it. Also, along with this list, I have a Whatsapp group called 
>>>>>>> Mac Users and Newbies which is also a great group. If you'd like to be 
>>>>>>> added and if you're on a mobile phone such as iOS or Android, you can 
>>>>>>> send me your contact information and I'll put you in the group. Enjoy 
>>>>>>> the Mac.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That’s probably true.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Devin,

My book about the Mac is available on the National Braille Press website. 
However, it is about the basics of using the Mac and information about the Big 
Sur operating system. NBP does not update the book annually. Here’s the link:
https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html?from_search=1

Hope this helps.
Janet

> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and 
> VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else? 
> 
> Devin Prater
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> thanks so very much to all who replied.
>> you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better than 
>> the sense of dread I was developing.
>> you all have been most helpful.
>> I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in 
>> posting them.
>> Best to all, Marlene.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page 
>>> (summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands):
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236
>>> 
> On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a Mac 
 user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white polycarbon 
 plastic MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC the same day so 
 I was forced to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to learn the OS and 
 I've been loving the Mac ever since. Someone said on this list a while ago 
 that if you really want to learn how to use this platform, you should 
 forget everything you know about Windows and to not use your PC as a 
 crutch when you're frustrated with the Mac. They were great words and I 
 took them to heart. I think that's why I'm very good at it. Also, along 
 with this list, I have a Whatsapp group called Mac Users and Newbies which 
 is also a great group. If you'd like to be added and if you're on a mobile 
 phone such as iOS or Android, you can send me your contact information and 
 I'll put you in the group. Enjoy the Mac.
 
 Shawn
 
>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> That’s probably true.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2022, at 7:02 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me.  I 
>>> think it’s because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t 
>>> part of Windows, such as interacting, and quicknav.  Also, in my case, 
>>> I’d been a PC user for about twenty years.  So there were a lot of 
>>> things that were basically hard-wired, and I had to relearn them.
>> For me, it started with Apple II in the 1980s, then MS-DOS in the early 
>> 90s, then UNIX in the 90s (a Sun clone), followed by Linux - both at the 
>> text console and later the graphical user interface as well. This was 
>> followed by Android, iOS, and then Mac OS. I didn’t have any trouble 
>> learning Mac OS, as I recall.
>> After that came Windows, learned “mostly on the job” in a work 
>> environment, and some opportunities to experiment a little with Chrome 
>> OS (but not to learn it properly).
>> My only conclusion is that having learned to use several different 
>> systems already makes the next one easier to learn.
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Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Marlene,
Just take it slow. Do you still have your PC hooked up? I’ve written several 
books  on the Mac operating systems. There’s also a tremendous amount of 
information on www.applevis.com.
AppleVis is a great web site and Mac Visionaries  is a great email list.

No question is stupid. We’ve all been there.

Best.
Janet




> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Marlene Kramer  
> wrote:
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> hi listers, I am new to this list, and new to MacBook. I have transition from 
> the PC/jaws approach.
> I have a MacBook, running Ventura.
> I have eight years of experience with the iOS version of voiceover, but I’m 
> finding the MacBook version of voice over a little more challenging. I have 
> made some good initial progress, but realize I have a steep learning curve 
> ahead of me.
> I would very much appreciate learning from those of you with experience on 
> the MacBook, your recommended strategies for approaching this learning 
> process. No advice is too simple.
> Thanks in advance. Marlene.
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Re: Is there any way to set my phone so that the lock button hangs up phone calls?

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Hi Donna,
Go to Settings/Accessibility/Touch/Prevent Lock to End Call. This is a toggle 
switch.
Best,
Janet

> On Nov 2, 2022, at 5:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
> 
> I know there are people who hate that feature, but I actually want pressing 
> the side button to end a call.  That does not happen on my Phone.  I’ve 
> looked in Settings under physical and Motor, but don’t see a setting there 
> that governs that behavior.  Does anyone know how I can set my phone so that 
> pressing the side button ends a call?
> TIA,
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Re: Command-one for Inbox?

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When you are in the mailbox list, below All Inboxes are the individual 
mailboxes for each account. Select the one you want and use VO-J to get to the 
messages table.  You can also use VO-Right Arow, but it will require several 
presses.

Hope this helps.
Janet

> On Nov 2, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
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> When I hit Command-1, Voiceover says ‘All Inboxes’. I have three email 
> accounts and I want voiceover gives me the Inbox from one account, not from 
> the other. 
> How can I have VO do that, please?
> Thanks!
>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I’ve got a late 2014 Mac mini and am still on Montery. Some time ago, I did 
>> something that caused “All Inboxes” to be removed from my Mail favorites 
>> bar. So now, command 1 gives me all drafts, Command 2 gives me all Sent, 
>> etc. I have two mail accounts, and have favorites for each one separately, 
>> but I’d really love to get the All Inboxes back if possible. Does anyone 
>> know how to do this in Monterey? I seem to remember trying to get it back 
>> when it happened, but again that was a while ago and I don’t remember what I 
>> tried to do. This thread reminded me about it so thought I’d ask.
>> Thanks,
>> Pete De Vasto
>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2022, at 7:36 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have three mail accounts set up on your Mac, pressing CMD + 1, 
>>> should 
>>> take you to your All Inbox. This is where you can see mail for all three of 
>>> your active accounts, in a combined inbox.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Nov 1, 2022, at 20:43, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Group.
>>> I have three email accounts in Mac. I have read that Command+1 takes to 
>>> Inbox.
>>> My question is:
>>> if I have three email-accounts, which Inbox Command-1 would take me to?
>>> Thanks!
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Re: How to access on my Mac mail boxes in Monterery Monterery 12.6

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Hi Paul,

Try typing Command-1. That should bring you to the  list of  your  mailboxes. 
If somehow it brings you to your list of messages, use VO-J to get back to the 
mailboxes. Once in the list,  try typing the first couple of letters  for the 
mailbox you want.. If that doesn’t work, type the letter O. This should bring 
you to the list of mailboxes under On My Mac.

Hope this helps.

Janet

> On Oct 21, 2022, at 10:36 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I recently upgraded my 2018 iMac to Mac/OS 12.6. Before upgrading I was able 
> to see a list of all my mail boxes including those which are only on my Mac. 
> I used Control+Option+j to move between the list of mail boxes and the mail 
> items in the selected mail box. Since the upgrade I can no longer see any 
> mail boxes which are on my Mac, but I can still move mail to these local mail 
> boxes.
> How can I now access the 30 or so local mail boxes? Do I somehow need to 
> rebuild mail and if so how do I do that?
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Command in Monterrey to Eject an external disk?

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Hi Donna,
Is the item you want to eject a backup drive? If so, go to Finder and VO-Left 
and Right Arrow until you hear the name of your drive. Then do Shift-VO-M and 
arrow down to eject. It may take a minute or two before the drive is ready to 
be ejected.

Hope this helps.

Janet


> On Oct 13, 2022, at 9:36 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
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> I notice that in Monterrey CMD-E no longer works to eject an external disk 
> drive.  Anyone know if there’s a new command?  I tried CMD-Option-E but that 
> didn’t do it.
> TIA,
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Re: M1 Mac mini just beeps

[Janet Ingber]

Have you tried holding down the Command key and pressing the Touch ID sensor
three times?  Here is the number for Apple’s help  for people who have 
disabilities. This is a free service. 877 204-3930.

Hope this helps.

Janet

> On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Violet Gill  wrote:
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>  Yes I hope this can get resolved soon I can use sited assistance but I’m 
> stubborn lol hopefuly someone in this group has some answers maybe its a 
> quick thing that can be solved independently. 
>  
> 
>  Violet. 
> She/her.
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 22:18, Paul Mimms  wrote:
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>> it will probably be most effective to use something like AIRA or be my 
>> eyes, if not a sighted person, to tell you what’s going on by viewing the 
>> screen. Wish I could come up with an answer but I hope you can find one 
>> yourself soon.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Life is 10% what happens, and how you take it, and 90% what you do about it, 
>> and what you make of it.
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Violet Gill  wrote:
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>>> Hello, when I turn my mac on I do not get any message to activate 
>>> voiceover and I have tried pressing command f5 but all i get is a beep same 
>>> goes for pressing any other key on the keyboard.  Yes this is my first mac. 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 20:05, Janet Ingber  wrote:
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>>>> Hi Violet,
>>>> 
>>>> Is this your first Mac? When you turn your Mac on, Do you get a message to 
>>>> activate VoiceOver.? If not, type Command-F5. Let me know what happens.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Janet
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Violet Gill  wrote:
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>>>>> Hello. I’m relatively new here. I just acquired a new M1 Mac mini. I’m 
>>>>> trying to set it up with voiceover enabled but when I turn it on and 
>>>>> press buttons on the keyboard all I get is beep beep no matter what key I 
>>>>> press. 
>>>>> I hope this can be solved. Thank you so much. 
>>>>> 
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Re: M1 Mac mini just beeps

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Hi Violet,

Is this your first Mac? When you turn your Mac on, Do you get a message to 
activate VoiceOver.? If not, type Command-F5. Let me know what happens.

Best,
Janet



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> to set it up with voiceover enabled but when I turn it on and press buttons 
> on the keyboard all I get is beep beep no matter what key I press. 
> I hope this can be solved. Thank you so much. 
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Re: MacBook Pro m1.

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Good Morning,
I have an M1 Air and it does not have a touch bar.
Janet

> On Feb 5, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Has all the MacBook pro’s with m1 chip the Touch Bar or is it just some of 
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Re: Turning Macbook-Pro-2017 On?

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Hi,
I assume you turned the computer off. If so, opening the lid will not do 
anything. If you just closed the lid, open it. If you completely turned it off, 
hold down the Power button (which may also be the Touch ID sensor) for a couple 
of seconds. VoiceOver will not speak while you are doing this. In a few seconds 
VoiceOver will begin to speak.

If you are using macOS Big Sur, you can activate the start up sound in the 
Sounds pane of System Preferences.

Hope this helps,
Janet

> On Jan 26, 2021, at 2:30 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> Last night, I shut down my Macbook-Pro 2017.
> How can I turn it now? Should I just open the lid and expect that the machine 
> would be on soon, or I should do something else?
> Your help is much appreciated.
> Thanks!
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Re: Touch bar tools / recommendations.

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Hi Jonathan,

You can have the Touch Bar show different functions depending on which 
application you are using. For example when in the Mail app, actions relating 
to the app will be on the Touch Bar.

set this up by going to the  Keyboard preference pane in system Preferences. 
Next, select the Keyboard tab and go  to the pop-up menu called “Touch Bar 
Shows, .”  choose App Controls from the menu. 

You can also simulate function keys by holding down the FN key and pressing a 
number. For example, to simulate F2, use the FN key and the the number 2.  
Another option is to hold down the FN and VO keys and flick left or right on 
the Touch Bar until you hear the name of the function key you want. Then just 
double tap on it.

Hope this helps.

Janet

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Well, my office just bought me a new MacBookPro with the touchbar. I am 
> getting a little used to it, but want to know if there are any addon 
> applications useful to VoiceOver users with TouchBar Macs. I generally, use 
> an external keyboard, since I use numpad commander extensively. But up until 
> yesterday, I just ignored any discussion about the touch bar.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: Preparin for Watch SE arrival.

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Hi Jonathan,
Sorry to hear about your fall.  The watch is a very nice Chanukah present.

The time feature you mentioned is taptic time.  In other words, instead of 
VoiceOver speaking the time, just do a one-finger  double tap on the face.  try 
to do it closer to the top of the screen. Here’s how to set it up.
On your watch or iPhone, go to Clock. Flick right to Taptic Time and activate 
the toggle button, if it is not already on. On the new screen choose how you 
want apple Watch to tell time. There are three options. I use the  Digits 
option.  VoiceOver will explain each option.

Your watch will mirror your iPhone regarding notifications. Make sure 
Notifications is activated on your watch.  You can do this from the Watch app 
on your iPhone or   or directly  on  your watch.

Hope this makes sense.

Best,
Janet

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> For years while on this list, I have deleted anything with the subject line 
> of watch. Now because of fall monitoring, and falling down a set of stairs 
> earlier this year, my wife is presenting me with a Apple Watch for Chanuka. 
> So, what else can I do reasonably with this besides monitoring my health? 
> What is this about tapping time feedback.
> How do I get just the notifications I want on the watch!
> Thanks!
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Re: How to delete anApp onWatch OS 7 using VoiceOver

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Hi Paul,

Here is how to do it with the latest version of watchOS:
1. Locate the app you want to delete.
flick up with one finger until you hear VoiceOver say, “Delete.
3. Double tap with one finger to delete the app.

Hope this helps,
Janet


> On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> I have anApple Watch SE running Watch OS 7. How can I delete an App from the 
> Watch using VoiceOver?
> Many thanks for any tips.
> Best …Paul Hopewell
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Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch SE

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Hi Paul,
Here’s how to use haptic time:
1. Do not turn VoiceOver off.
2. Do a one-finger double tap on the screen between the top and the middle. It 
may take a little practice. Sometimes  VoiceOver does say the time.

another option is to turn the VoiceOver volume down so your partner won’t hear 
it.

Hope this helps.

Janet

> On Dec 1, 2020, at 4:18 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I have a new Apple Watch SE and am running IOS 14.2 on my iPhone.
> I am keen to get the watch to tell the time via haptic taps so that I do not 
> disturb my partner if I check the time at night. I believe that I have set up 
> everything correctly and have set the watch to silent mode and turned 
> VoiceOver off. I then do a 2 finger tap and hold on the watch face which 
> should invoke haptic time. When I do that nothing happens. Note that I can 
> feel other haptics on the watch.
> Does haptic time work for others or is there a bug in Watch OS here?
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Re: Voice control of Amazon microwave via Alexa app on iPhone? Can this be done after setting up the oven and linking it to Alexa? Or do I have to have that Echo Dot also connected to Alexa? I won’t b

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Hi Phil,

To the best of my knowledge you will need the  Dot. You will use the Alexa app 
to pair the microwave with the dot. 

Best,
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Re: Accessible microwaves

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Hi Phil,
Thanks. Yes, I know about the overlay. The microwave works great with the Dot.

Janet

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> Hi Janet, very nice job on this article. I’ve looked at the Amazon basics 
> microwave and I think I’m going to pick it up along with the Alexa dot. Did 
> you know that there is also a braille keypad overlay for this microwave? A 
> search on Amazon for braille keypad overlay Amazon basics microwave will 
> bring it up. Also, there is a good article on retro style microwaves with 
> mechanical buttons and Dials titled best microwaves for seniors at a site 
> called SaferSeniorCare.com.
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>> Hi Phil,
>> The Amazon Basics microwave is a good option if you are okay with a small 
>> microwave. It works with Amazon’s Alexa, so it can be controlled by voice.  
>> Here’s some info:
>> 
>>> https://www.afb.org/aw/20/12/16848 <https://www.afb.org/aw/20/12/16848>
>> 
>> Stay safe,
>> Janet
>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any particularly good usable microwaves for us? I see that some have 
>>> optional braille overlays, like the Amazon basics. Any ideas greatly 
>>> appreciated. BBy the way, I’m not looking to spend a lot of money. Sent 
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Re: Accessible microwaves

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Hi Phil,
The Amazon Basics microwave is a good option if you are okay with a small 
microwave. It works with Amazon’s Alexa, so it can be controlled by voice.  
Here’s some info:

> https://www.afb.org/aw/20/12/16848 

Stay safe,
Janet
> On Nov 7, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Any particularly good usable microwaves for us? I see that some have optional 
> braille overlays, like the Amazon basics. Any ideas greatly appreciated. BBy 
> the way, I’m not looking to spend a lot of money. Sent from my IPhone
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Re: Adding widgets to home screen

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Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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> I added a widget to the home screen, and then removed it. Now the bottom two 
> rows of my home screen are blank and everything that was there got pushed 
> over onto the next screen down in the chain. I guess when I deleted the 
> widget it pulled everything up from below to fill in where the witch was and 
> left a big blank space at the bottom of my first home screen. How can I fix 
> this.
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> drag the apps back on to your home screen.

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Re: Ringtones again

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> Hi Paul, 
I assume you are using MacOS Catalina.  Before you start the syncing process, 
put your ringtomes on your desktop.  This way you have quick access to them.  
Ringtones must be in the M4R format.

Once you have connected your iPhone and are ready to sync it, Select the 
General tab and go to Manually  Manage Music, Movies, and TV Shows. Check the 
box.

Put the cursor on the ringtone and type VO,  (Control-Option comma.) VoiceOver 
will say that the item has been marked for drag. Move the cursor to the Sync 
window for iPhone and anywhere in the window type VO . O(Control Option period. 
Wait a few seconds for the ringtone to sync.  It should then be on your phone.

Janet

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:18 PM, Paul Sandoval  wrote:
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> Hi list,
>  
> I’m hoping someone will be kind and give me instructions for copying 
> ringtones from my Mac to my iPhone.
> Most things I find on Google say to drag and drop, and this usually gives me 
> difficulty.
> I can get as far as locating the iPhone in the Finder Sidebar. I also have 
> General selected, but where do I paste the tones?
> IOS 14.1 on an iPhone XR
> MacOS 10.15.6 MacBook Air late 2013
> I appreciate any advice you can give. 
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Re: Amadeus Pro Question

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hi Dan,
Did you read Robert Carter’s posts about how to insert the sentence?  I knew 
there was an easier way, but I just couldn’t think of it.

Janet
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 3:17 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hello Janet,
> It works, but wow! I guess I'll go back to using Studio Recorder in 
> Windows. After all you can copy and paste like you do in word processing and 
> nothing really complex to do. And I don't really need multi track recording 
> for the kind of recordings I make.
> Even though Studio Recorder is a rather old application it does all I want it 
> to do and then some.
> 
> I wish it would have been ported to the mac os.
> Again, thanks.
> 
> 
> Danny
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> There might be an easier way but here is what you can do:
>> 1. Create a new blank track.
>> 2. Play the original track until you get to where you want to  insert the 
>> sentence.
>> 3. Type the letter P to mark that spot.
>> 4. Type Command-Left Arrow. VoiceOver will say, “Extend to previous marker. 
>> The previous marker. is the beginning of the track in this case.
>> 5.  Type Command-C to copy the selected material.
>> 6. Use Command-V to paste it into the new track.
>> 7. Paste the sentence into the new track.
>> 8. Go back into the original track and place a marker after where the new 
>> sentence would go  and type Command-Right Arrow. Then copy the file and 
>> paste it after the sentence.
>> 
>> Let me know if this makes sence.
>> 
>> Janet
>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:51 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Hi Janet,
>>> Actually, all I want to do is to insert in the middle of the file an 
>>> additional sentence. At this point it is just a single track file.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Danny
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Danny,
>>>> 
>>>> Do you want to insert the voice without the music playing  or have the 
>>>> voice on top of the music? Let me know and I’ll give you the procedure.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Janet
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:30 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>  wrote:
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>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> I am considering amadeus pro.
>>>>> I am using it during its trial period.
>>>>> Here’s my question.
>>>>> I have recorded a sound file, a voice file. Now, I wish to add a bit 
>>>>> somewhere in the middle. As a VoiceOver user, how would I do this with 
>>>>> the keyboard?
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Re: Amadeus Pro Question

[Janet Ingber]

There might be an easier way but here is what you can do:
1. Create a new blank track.
2. Play the original track until you get to where you want to  insert the 
sentence.
3. Type the letter P to mark that spot.
4. Type Command-Left Arrow. VoiceOver will say, “Extend to previous marker. The 
previous marker. is the beginning of the track in this case.
5.  Type Command-C to copy the selected material.
6. Use Command-V to paste it into the new track.
7. Paste the sentence into the new track.
8. Go back into the original track and place a marker after where the new 
sentence would go  and type Command-Right Arrow. Then copy the file and paste 
it after the sentence.

Let me know if this makes sence.

Janet
> On Sep 3, 2020, at 12:51 PM, 'Dan' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi Janet,
> Actually, all I want to do is to insert in the middle of the file an 
> additional sentence. At this point it is just a single track file.
> 
> 
> Danny
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Danny,
>> 
>> Do you want to insert the voice without the music playing  or have the voice 
>> on top of the music? Let me know and I’ll give you the procedure.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Janet
>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:30 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I am considering amadeus pro.
>>> I am using it during its trial period.
>>> Here’s my question.
>>> I have recorded a sound file, a voice file. Now, I wish to add a bit 
>>> somewhere in the middle. As a VoiceOver user, how would I do this with the 
>>> keyboard?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
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Re: Amadeus Pro Question

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Hi Danny,

Do you want to insert the voice without the music playing  or have the voice on 
top of the music? Let me know and I’ll give you the procedure.

Take care,
Janet

> On Sep 2, 2020, at 9:30 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries 
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> I am considering amadeus pro.
> I am using it during its trial period.
> Here’s my question.
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Re: Apple watch and new Apple ID

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Good Morning Tim,

I had the exact same problem. Do you know about Apple’s free  Accessibility 
tech support?  I eventually called them and they walked me through the process. 
 Here’s their number:
(877( 204-3930

Hope this helps.

Janet

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Timothy Emmons  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Good morning all. My wife and I have shared the same Apple ID for years for 
> whatever reason. We're now using separate IDS. She's able to sign in on her 
> phone fine. However, her watch gives a notification that in order to complete 
> a purchase she needs to sign into my ID. Ihe's reset and re-pared the watch 
> with the same results. We are using the family sharing. She has been added as 
> a family member and I have allowed purchases and such to be shared between 
> us. What's going on. Does she need to sign into my ID on her watch?she 
> shouldn't but I wondered if I might be missing something. Any help here would 
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Re: Seeking Food Recipes App Recommendations

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Hi Anita,
You can get it in the iOS App Store.
Janet 

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> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Anita E  wrote:
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> Hi List, From where can this app be obtained?
> Thanks,
> Anita
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 8, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
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> Hi Mark,
> 
> An  app I really like is called in the kitchen. It is from Food  Network  
>The app is very accessible and it has a lot of good features. It is 
> available for iOS and I think there’s a Mac version as well but I’mj not 
> positive. Our use the iOS version.
> Hope this helps.
> Janet
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Seeking Food Recipes App Recommendations

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Mark,

 An  app I really like is called in the kitchen. It is from Food  Network   
  The app is very accessible and it has a lot of good features. It is available 
for iOS and I think there’s a Mac version as well but I’mj not positive. Our 
use the iOS version.
Hope this helps.
Janet

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Re: Where to get the book on using Pages with VoiceOver?

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Hi Alex,

The book is called “My Mac Pages,” by Anne and Archie Robertson.  It’s 
published by Mosen Consulting.  Go to 

> https://mosen.org/mymacpages/
Hope this helps.

Janet
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> Someone on Twitter is asking me about using Pages with VO. This isn't 
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> book on this topic, though. Where can that book be obtained? I want to give 
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Re: Choosing my First MacBook, Air or Pro, and With or Without Touch Bar?

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Hi Randa,
A lot depends on what you want to do on the computer.  If you are just doing 
basic things like email, word processing, internet browsing, playing music, 
etc. then the Air is a good computer.   

The Touch Bar is a personal choice.  I now have a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar, 
but I don’t use the Touch Bar that much. I just use keyboard commands most of 
the time.  Since you are an iPhone user you should have no difficulty  with the 
Touch Bar.

If the Air will meet your needs then I would go with that.  The Touch Bar is a 
nice feature but it’s a personal choice as to whether you want to spend the 
extra money.  Anything you can do on the Touch Bar can be done with keyboard 
commands.

There are a lot of very helpful people on this list to answer your questions.  
Glad you read my book.

Best,
Janet
> On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Rhanda Hasley  
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> I’m a long-time PC user with JAWS, but am now on the verge of buying my first 
> Mac.  For several years, I’ve also been an iPhone  user so am familiar with 
> VoiceOver, even though I realize the Mac is different and involves a learning 
> curve.  However, I love learning new skills so that doesn’t bother me.  In 
> fact, I’ve been studying various materials including Janet Ingbergt’s books, 
> and have looked at different Mac models.  I definitely want a portable 
> Macbook, as opposed to the Imacs, but am wanting various perspectives on 
> whether to get the Pro or the Air, as well as with or without touch bars. I’m 
> leaning toward getting a Pro, but know of many people like the Air and are 
> just as productive with it.  I’ve also read that getting one without the 
> touch bar would be less expensive.  In your opinion, is the touch bar 
> necessary or advantageous?  Or would I do just fine without it?  Whichever 
> way I go with this, I’m trying to get the most for my money and want   a 
> computer that will last me for as long as possible.
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Re: Reference books for Apple accessibility?

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Go to National Braille Press nbp.org. Put in Mac in the search box.  I believe 
there is a book on Apple Watch.  Also download the AccessWorld iOS app.  There 
are articles and they are free.

David Woodbridge does excellent podcasts.  Many of them are on Apple products.  
Go to 
davidwoodbr.podbean.com

Check out AppleVis www.applevis.com   The site hads a lot of great information.

Hope this helps.
Janet
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Re: the clipboard

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Thanks for the info.

Janet

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> Janet,
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> what you say is right for generic MacOS systems, but there are several add-on 
> clipboard managers that archive most clipboard items. These will not though, 
> for example archive clipboard items added by 1Password because 1Password 
> specifically marks their clipboard as transient and will delete the contents 
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> Once you copy or cut something else to the clipboard whatever was on it 
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> Best,
> Janet
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Re: the clipboard

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Hi Marie,

Once you copy or cut something else to the clipboard whatever was on it before 
will automatically be deleted. You don’t have to do anything else.

Best,
Janet

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Re: From Moderator Mark: Happy New Year, Everyone

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Happy New Year to you.

Thanks so much for all you do and for posting great articles to the list.

Best,
Janet

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Re: iPhone X and hard reset

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Hi,
Press the volume up button and then quickly press the volume down button.  
Finally, hold in the side button for a few seconds.  If you have some vision or 
have sighted assistance available, hold the side button until the Apple logo 
appears.

Hope this helps.

Janet

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> I am trying to help my brother hard reset his iPhone X and we can't get how 
> to reset it. I found an article on iDrop News but he tried doing it and he 
> was unable to reset hhis phone. How long do we wait after each button press? 
> I know the first step is to press and hold the side button then quickly 
> release. How long does he have to hold the button in?
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Re: How to turn off Cursor Tracking on Macs with the touch Bar?

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Donna,

There are two ways to do it.   If you hold the function key down and then press 
any number on the numbers row of the keyboard, that number will be the 
corresponding Function key.  Therefore the command is  FN-Shift-VO-3.  The 
other way is to do the same configuration and double tap the F3 on the Touch 
Bar while holding down the keyboard keys.  There will be an F3 option on the 
Touch Bar since the function key is being used in the command.

Let me know if I’m not making sense.

Janet





> On Nov 19, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Anyone know how to do this?  The old way was VO-Shift F3, but I'm not sure 
> how to do it on my MBP with touch bar.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Recomendations for books

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Delores,
It’s the same book.  Glad you like it.
Best,
Janet
> On Aug 27, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dolores Myers <dmyer...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Andy,
> 
> I just purchased a book by Janet Ingber from the National Braille Press.  it 
> is called Mac Basics for the Beginning User.  I really like  it.  I bought 
> the braille copy so I can read it while trying things on the computer.   I’ve 
> learned a lot from this book.  It will be a great reference tool for me.  I 
> don’’t know if we are talking about the same book or not.
> Dolores 
>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>>  
>> In the past I've purchased 2 great books.  They may have been from either, 
>> the National Braille Press or American Printhouse for the Blind.  I can no 
>> longer rember.
>>  
>>  
>> The first book concerned my Iphone and was titled:
>> Getting Started with the iPhoneGetting Started with the iPhone
>> An Introduction for Blind Users
>> By Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau.
>>  
>> This was a great book and helped me a lot, back when I was using my Iphone 
>> 4s.
>>  
>> I've since upgraded to the Iphone 6s and was wondering if there was a more 
>> recent title by these two authours which would be more appropriate for the 
>> Iphone 6s and subsequent upgrades to the operating system, since then.
>>  
>> My second book, which I'm studying at the moment is also a fantastic book.  
>> It concerns My Imac and my Macbook pro and is titled:
>>  
>> Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to Know to Use the Mac 
>>  
>>  
>> I'm loving this book so much that I hunger for more from this particular 
>> author.
>>  
>> If anyone knows a link where I can purchase such titles, as txt documents, 
>> I'd be delighted to know.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Very best wishes.
>> Andy.
>> From Scotland with Love.
>> 
>>  
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Re: Recomendations for books

[Janet Ingber]

I assume so, but Anna writes those books so I haven’t heard anything official.

Janet
> On Aug 27, 2017, at 3:23 PM, the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Janet,
> Will there be an iOS 11 version when iOS 11 comes out?
> 
> Maria Reyes 
> Owner of the following groups- 
> Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io
> iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 2:58 PM -0400, "Andy" <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Janet.
> 
> getting a message from you! I'm thrilled to bits.
> 
> 
> As I said in my message, I'm just loving your book.  It's helping me loads 
> and without it, my macbook pro would still be sitting like my lovely 27in 
> Imack, after almost 2 years.
> 
> It's very difficult for a Windows user to adjust to this new platform, but 
> at times, it all sounds very simple, then I fall down a big hole.
> 
> I've been listening and working with your book since Friday afternoon and 
> now it's nearly bed-time on sunday  night.
> 
> I've achieved loads and I some how no longer fear this buitiful macbook pro. 
> My confidence is growing and I'm really feeling, for the first time in 
> months, that I'm achieving something positive.
> 
> I don't fear the future any more, but my arthritic fingers are now screaming 
> at me! Ha.
> 
> Thanks very much for the other book.  Both will keep me busy all winter, 
> here in Scotland, where I don't get out too much over the winter months.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Janet Ingber" 
> 
> To: 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Recomendations for books
> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Glad you like my book and are finding it helpful.
> 
> The iPhone book has been updated by Anna.  It’s from National Braille Press. 
> Here is the link:
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IPHONE-IOS10.html
> 
> Best,
> Janet
> 
> 
> > On Aug 27, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Andy 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > In the past I've purchased 2 great books.  They may have been from either, 
> > the National Braille Press or American Printhouse for the Blind.  I can no 
> > longer rember.
> >
> >
> > The first book concerned my Iphone and was titled:
> > Getting Started with the iPhoneGetting Started with the iPhone
> > An Introduction for Blind Users
> > By Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau.
> >
> > This was a great book and helped me a lot, back when I was using my Iphone 
> > 4s.
> >
> > I've since upgraded to the Iphone 6s and was wondering if there was a more 
> > recent title by these two authours which would be more appropriate for the 
> > Iphone 6s and subsequent upgrades to the operating system, since then.
> >
> > My second book, which I'm studying at the moment is also a fantastic book. 
> > It concerns My Imac and my Macbook pro and is titled:
> >
> > Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to Know to Use the Mac
> >
> >
> > I'm loving this book so much that I hunger for more from this particular 
> > author.
> >
> > If anyone knows a link where I can purchase such titles, as txt documents, 
> > I'd be delighted to know.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Very best wishes.
> > Andy.
> > From Scotland with Love.
> >
> >
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Re: Recomendations for books

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Andy,

My best advice is to do a little at a time.  This is a nice list and there are 
many knowledgeable people on it.

Best,
Janet
> On Aug 27, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Janet.
> 
> getting a message from you! I'm thrilled to bits.
> 
> 
> As I said in my message, I'm just loving your book.  It's helping me loads 
> and without it, my macbook pro would still be sitting like my lovely 27in 
> Imack, after almost 2 years.
> 
> It's very difficult for a Windows user to adjust to this new platform, but at 
> times, it all sounds very simple, then I fall down a big hole.
> 
> I've been listening and working with your book since Friday afternoon and now 
> it's nearly bed-time on sunday  night.
> 
> I've achieved loads and I some how no longer fear this buitiful macbook pro. 
> My confidence is growing and I'm really feeling, for the first time in 
> months, that I'm achieving something positive.
> 
> I don't fear the future any more, but my arthritic fingers are now screaming 
> at me! Ha.
> 
> Thanks very much for the other book.  Both will keep me busy all winter, here 
> in Scotland, where I don't get out too much over the winter months.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Janet Ingber" <janet.ing...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Recomendations for books
> 
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
> Glad you like my book and are finding it helpful.
> 
> The iPhone book has been updated by Anna.  It’s from National Braille Press. 
> Here is the link:
> http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IPHONE-IOS10.html
> 
> Best,
> Janet
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> In the past I've purchased 2 great books.  They may have been from either, 
>> the National Braille Press or American Printhouse for the Blind.  I can no 
>> longer rember.
>> 
>> 
>> The first book concerned my Iphone and was titled:
>> Getting Started with the iPhoneGetting Started with the iPhone
>> An Introduction for Blind Users
>> By Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau.
>> 
>> This was a great book and helped me a lot, back when I was using my Iphone 
>> 4s.
>> 
>> I've since upgraded to the Iphone 6s and was wondering if there was a more 
>> recent title by these two authours which would be more appropriate for the 
>> Iphone 6s and subsequent upgrades to the operating system, since then.
>> 
>> My second book, which I'm studying at the moment is also a fantastic book. 
>> It concerns My Imac and my Macbook pro and is titled:
>> 
>> Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to Know to Use the Mac
>> 
>> 
>> I'm loving this book so much that I hunger for more from this particular 
>> author.
>> 
>> If anyone knows a link where I can purchase such titles, as txt documents, 
>> I'd be delighted to know.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Very best wishes.
>> Andy.
>> From Scotland with Love.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Recomendations for books

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Andy,

Glad you like my book and are finding it helpful.

The iPhone book has been updated by Anna.  It’s from National Braille Press. 
Here is the link:
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IPHONE-IOS10.html

Best,
Janet


> On Aug 27, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
>  
> In the past I've purchased 2 great books.  They may have been from either, 
> the National Braille Press or American Printhouse for the Blind.  I can no 
> longer rember.
>  
>  
> The first book concerned my Iphone and was titled:
> Getting Started with the iPhoneGetting Started with the iPhone
> An Introduction for Blind Users
> By Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau.
>  
> This was a great book and helped me a lot, back when I was using my Iphone 4s.
>  
> I've since upgraded to the Iphone 6s and was wondering if there was a more 
> recent title by these two authours which would be more appropriate for the 
> Iphone 6s and subsequent upgrades to the operating system, since then.
>  
> My second book, which I'm studying at the moment is also a fantastic book.  
> It concerns My Imac and my Macbook pro and is titled:
>  
> Janet Ingber - Everything You Need to Know to Use the Mac 
>  
>  
> I'm loving this book so much that I hunger for more from this particular 
> author.
>  
> If anyone knows a link where I can purchase such titles, as txt documents, 
> I'd be delighted to know.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
> 
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Re: question for those of you with Macs with the touch bar

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Alex and All,

Here’s how to customize the Touch Bar in Mail:
1. Select “Customize Touch Bar” from the View Menu.
2. VO-Right Arrow till you hear, “Section 2,” and interact with it. 
3. VO-Right and Left Arrow to review options.  Select the addition you want 
with VOSpace Bar.

1. Remove an item by going to Customize Touch Bar in the view menu.
2. On the Touch Bar, double tap on the item you want to remove. 

Not all applications have this feature.

Best,
Janet
> On Aug 12, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Note that using numbers for f keys doesn’t always work. For instance, you 
> can’t use fn-accent to escape from menus, but you can do so to close VO 
> dialogs. I’ve been using a Touch Bar since last winter, and I still haven’t 
> worked out when this does or doesn’t work.
> 
> The option I’d suggest is to use the trackpad or keyboard commander. With it, 
> you can assign any functions you use a lot to keystrokes or gestures, thus 
> negating the use of the f keys to a large degree. Remember, too, that volume 
> can now be controlled with vo-equals and vo-dash, so that’s two more you 
> don’t need to worry about.
> 
> Finally, a quick note on the Touch Bar: you can’t customize it. macOS lets 
> you, but VO has a hard time, and you’ll probably be unable to get anywhere 
> with the process. At least, I can’t. Sighted help will be required until 
> Apple sorts this out. You can use the Bar with no problem at all, but you 
> can’t change what’s on it. Most of the time you won’t want to, but if you do, 
> you’ll need some help for now. Congratulations on your upcoming Mac!
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, that's handy.  Thank you!
>> Donna
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Janet Ingber <janet.ing...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> The regular numbers row will act as function keys if you also hold down the 
>>> function key next to the Control key, along with the VO keys.  All  If you 
>>> want the numbers row to turn into function keys, hold down the function key 
>>> and  swipe right or left on the touch bar until you find the key you want. 
>>> Make your selection with a double tap.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> Janet
>>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm going to get my new Mac this weekend, and a question has occurred to 
>>>> me.  To those of you using the Touch bar, how do you accomplish the VO 
>>>> commands that used to rely on the function keys in combination with 
>>>> another modifier?  I'm thinking of things like turning cursor tracking on 
>>>> and off.
>>>> TIA,
>>>> Donna
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Re: question for those of you with Macs with the touch bar

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Donna,

The regular numbers row will act as function keys if you also hold down the 
function key next to the Control key, along with the VO keys.  All  If you want 
the numbers row to turn into function keys, hold down the function key and  
swipe right or left on the touch bar until you find the key you want. Make your 
selection with a double tap.

Hope this helps.
Janet
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm going to get my new Mac this weekend, and a question has occurred to me.  
> To those of you using the Touch bar, how do you accomplish the VO commands 
> that used to rely on the function keys in combination with another modifier?  
> I'm thinking of things like turning cursor tracking on and off.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: trouble with fast forwarding in Amadeus Pro

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Hi Jenine,

Use your up and down arrows to control the speed of rewind and fast forward.

Hope this helps.

Janet
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 8:18 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
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> For some weird reason, probably involving a setting I’m forgetting about, my 
> left and right arrow keys don’t do the rewind and fast forward functions in 
> amadues Pro. they advance the audio a tiny bit but only at the slower speeds 
> and rewinding is next to impossible. 
> 
> I’m sure Jonathan Mosen knows of what I speak here and what my mistake is but 
> if anyone else can help as well, I’d appreciate it. 
> 
> This little flaw is making editing the huge file I’m working on quite the 
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Re: Learning pages, numbers, and keynote

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Hi,
I highly recommend Anne's course. You will learn a lot and have fun at the same 
time. 

Janet 


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 On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Antonio,
 
 Anne Robertson offers trainings via Skype. Several members of this list 
 praised it as extremly valuable.
 More info here:
 http://cecimac.org/education.htm
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 15.01.2015 um 22:05 schrieb Sarai Bucciarelli 
 sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi:
 The iBooks store has some good books. Applevise web site has some good 
 podcasts.
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 Where would I find textbooks, or tutorials on using these applications with 
 voice over?
 
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Re: Amadeus Pro guides?

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Hi Alex,

Here’s the link to an excellent Amadeus Pro podcast.

http://www.iblindtech.com/democast/episode-37-podcasting-with-amadeus-pro.html

I like Amadeus Pro a lot.

Happy New Year.
Janet


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 Hi all,
 I think someone said something a while back about making audio guides for 
 Amadeus Pro? If so, did I miss them, or are they not up yet? If they are, 
 where cold I find them? Thanks in advance. I'm trying to figure out if it's 
 worth the money, or if Audacity will do just as well.
 
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Re: Giraf support to do OCR?

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Hi Daniela,

Here’s the website:

www.giraffe-reader.com

Right now the Giraffe Reader does not support the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus.  I’m 
using an iPhone 5 and it works very well.

Hope this helps.
Janet
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 Hello all!
 I am looking for something called Giraf, which was a support to place the 
 iphone if we want to do a OCR. It is plegable and made of plastic, can 
 somebody give me info on if this is still available and how I can get it?
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Re: accessable mack apps

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You can also go to www.htb2.com and check out their list of accessible apps. 

Janet

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 On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 Very true. The free one I've found that I actually can deal with is voicemac, 
 which is nearly completely accessible, but it is inaccessible enough to be 
 annoying. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, a lot of the mac apps aren’t free. I find the free ones 
 aren’t as robust.
 On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 There really aren't many mac apps on applevis, well not sense I checked in 
 September or so. I'd stick to this list for the mac apps, you can also 
 explore the web, and report the accessibility of apps you've tried. For 
 example, popcorntime is inaccessible. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 You will find a wealth of information on accessible apps on
 http://www.applevis.com/apps
 On 29 Nov 2014, at 21:56, becky sabo beckyas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I was wondering where I can fine accessible apps for the mack?  I am on 
 apple v s and I do not no where to go fine which apps accessible for the 
 mack .  Any help would be great.
 Becky Sabo 
 
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Re: Amadeus Pro Tutorial

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Hi Emilio,

Here is the link:

http://www.iblindtech.com/democast/episode-37-podcasting-with-amadeus-pro.html

It’s a great podcast. If for some reason the link doesn’t work, do a google 
search for  i blind tech Amadeus Pro podcast.

Hope this helps.
Janet
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 Hello everyone,
 I have attempted to search online, but my efforts are fruitless.
 I am in search of a particular podcast that is an Amadeus Pro tutorial.
 This podcast is produced by a fellow named Garth from the Blind Cool Tech 
 team.
 If anyone has this podcast in their archives, or if anyone knows how I can go 
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Headphone jack Not Working

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The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several sets 
of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part that  goes 
into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and that works fine. 
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Re: Headphone jack Not Working

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Thanks Ray, I got sighted assistance, since I couldn’t hear VoiceOVer.  The Mac 
saw the headphones, but somehow the volume was down to zero.  I have no idea 
how that happened.

Thanks again,
Janet
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 Sound and then the Output tab, does the output device say Internal Speakers 
 or Headphones? If it says Headphones then at least the Mac has noticed that 
 headphones are plugged in. In that same control panel make sure the mute 
 checkbox is not checked. The setting sticks so muting the headphones doesn't 
 mute the speakers and vice versa. If it says anything about Digital Out 
 then somehow the Mac things you've got a fiber optic cable connected instead 
 of headphones. That can sometimes be because of a stuck switch inside the 
 headphone jack or a software thing. One way folks have cleared the digital 
 optical output sticking is by having the Sound Output system preference open 
 while switching from headphones to speakers and back. Apparently it polls the 
 headphone port and can get it un-confused, if it's just a software thing. If 
 it's a hardware things you might be in the land of toothpicks and other 
 dangerous fixes.
 
 CB
 
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 Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to put a 
 new jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to the logic 
 board.  Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the short of that.
 
 Very expensive to do that by the way.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
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 The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several 
 sets of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part that  
 goes into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and that 
 works fine.  Any ideas?
 
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Re: Headphone jack Not Working

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Thanks Alex,
I completely forgot about that.

Janet
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 Remember that f11 and f12 lower and raise the volume, respectively. You may 
 need to press function along with the keys, but they can let you quickly 
 adjust the volume. F10 mutes, I believe.
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 Thanks Ray, I got sighted assistance, since I couldn’t hear VoiceOVer.  The 
 Mac saw the headphones, but somehow the volume was down to zero.  I have no 
 idea how that happened.
 
 Thanks again,
 Janet
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 When your headphones are plugged in, if you go to System Preferences then 
 Sound and then the Output tab, does the output device say Internal Speakers 
 or Headphones? If it says Headphones then at least the Mac has noticed that 
 headphones are plugged in. In that same control panel make sure the mute 
 checkbox is not checked. The setting sticks so muting the headphones 
 doesn't mute the speakers and vice versa. If it says anything about 
 Digital Out then somehow the Mac things you've got a fiber optic cable 
 connected instead of headphones. That can sometimes be because of a stuck 
 switch inside the headphone jack or a software thing. One way folks have 
 cleared the digital optical output sticking is by having the Sound Output 
 system preference open while switching from headphones to speakers and 
 back. Apparently it polls the headphone port and can get it un-confused, if 
 it's just a software thing. If it's a hardware things you might be in the 
 land of toothpicks and other dangerous fixes.
 
 CB
 
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 Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to put a 
 new jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to the logic 
 board.  Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the short of that.
 
 Very expensive to do that by the way.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
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 The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several 
 sets of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part 
 that  goes into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and 
 that works fine.  Any ideas?
 
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Re: Where to purchase Amadeous Pro

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Hi Max,  
There's no benefit that I'm aware of.  I purchased my copy from the Mac App 
Store

Janet

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 I know I can purchase Amadeous Pro from either the website of the developer 
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Re: Pages tutorial

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Hi Phil,

I took Anne's Pages course and was very happy with it.  Anne and her husband 
Archie are great.  Here's a link to the course description.
http://cecimac.org/english.htm

Hope this helps.

Janet
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 Thanks
 
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Re: Fantasy Baseball on the iPhone?

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Hi Mike,

Yahoo's fantasy baseball iOS app is accessible.

Take care,
Janet
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 For years and years, I have lived in Austria, but I grew up in the States and 
 have followed the St. Louis Cardinals since I was seven years old.  Recently, 
 I have been thinking about baseball quite a bit, missing not being in the 
 States for the season and wondering if it is possible for a blind person to 
 use some sort of app on the iPhone and participate in a fantasy baseball 
 league.  If this is not possible on the iPhone, is it possible on a Mac?
 
 My best to all of you and thanks,
 
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Re: Fantasy Baseball on the iPhone?

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Hi Mike,

I saw the app presented at a conference so I haven't played with it.   Here's 
the link
https://itunes.apple.com/.../app/yahoo-fantasy...fantasy/id328415391?...

If for some reason the link doesn't work search for Yahoo Fantasy Baseball iOS  
The app is free.

I've never played fantasy baseball, but you need to choose a name and players.  
The app should give good instructions.

Take care,
Janet


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 Hi, Janet,
 
 First of all, Id like to thank you for responding so promptly.  It is good 
 to know that there is something out there that will make the experience 
 enjoyable.  I have a couple of questions, now that I know that this could 
 work and actually be fun.
 
 Since I've never played fantasy baseball, I don't know the rules.  Does the 
 app come with sufficient documentation, or must one find it elsewhere?  And 
 do you know what the name of the app is so that I can be sure to purchase the 
 one that is accessible?  I sure hope that I can find the app in the Austrian 
 App store. :-)
 
 Best regards from Vienna,
 
 Mike
 
 On 7,Mar,2014, at 2:48 PM, Janet Ingber janet.ing...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 Yahoo's fantasy baseball iOS app is accessible.
 
 Take care,
 Janet
 On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For years and years, I have lived in Austria, but I grew up in the States 
 and have followed the St. Louis Cardinals since I was seven years old.  
 Recently, I have been thinking about baseball quite a bit, missing not 
 being in the States for the season and wondering if it is possible for a 
 blind person to use some sort of app on the iPhone and participate in a 
 fantasy baseball league.  If this is not possible on the iPhone, is it 
 possible on a Mac?
 
 My best to all of you and thanks,
 
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Re: Removing an item form the dock

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Hi Max,

Locate the item on the dock and then bring up the contextual menu with 
Shift-VO-M.  The first choice in the menu is the Options submenu.  Type 
Vo-Right arrow to open the submenu.  The first option is Remove from Dock.

Take care,
Janet


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 how do you remove an item from the dock? I have forgotten how to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: Removing an item from the dock

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No Problem.  Try these steps:
1.  Go to the dock and locate the app you want to remove.
2. Type Shift-VO-M.
3. Down Arrow once to the Options sub-menu.
4. Right Arrow to open the sub-menu
5. You will be on the Remove from Dock option so select it with VO-Spacebar.

Hope this helps.

Janet 

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 Thanks, I have taken a look and the first item says keep in dock. I don't see 
 any option to remove it.
 Sorry if I am missing something.
 Max
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 Hi Max,
 
 Locate the item on the dock and then bring up the contextual menu with 
 Shift-VO-M.  The first choice in the menu is the Options submenu.  Type 
 Vo-Right arrow to open the submenu.  The first option is Remove from Dock.
 
 Take care,
 Janet
 
 
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 how do you remove an item from the dock? I have forgotten how to do this.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: Vo Command space?

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Hi Chris,

It brings up an action menu.  VoiceOver will say  how many options are in the 
menu.  You can read the options with your up and down arrows.

Take care,
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Re: Vo Command space?

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You can use it in a document or on a file. I rarely, if ever, used it.

Janet
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 Ok and can you give an example as to where I can use this command?
 
 Regards Chris
 
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 Hi Chris,
 
 It brings up an action menu.  VoiceOver will say  how many options are in 
 the menu.  You can read the options with your up and down arrows.
 
 Take care,
 Janet
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Re: Amadeus Pro Keyboard Command

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Thanks Eric.  I'll give it a try.

Janet
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 Hi Janet,
 
 I usually do this by pressing option right arrow until I get to the end of 
 the track.  then I press left arrow by itself a couple of times.  I then 
 press space bar and the sound starts just a bit before the end of the sound.
 
 You could also press command G and bring up the go to dialogue.  Then enter 
 the time that brings you near the end of the recording.  
 
 I hope these tips help.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 
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 Hi Everyone,
 
 Is there a keyboard command in Amadeus Pro that will bring me to the end of 
 a track and let me use my left arrow  to edit the last few seconds of the 
 track?  I had a big editing job today and of course most of what I needed to 
 edit was at the very end of the track.
 
 Many thanks,
 
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Re: Amadeus Pro Keyboard Command

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Hi eric,

I used Option-Right Arrow and went to the end of the track.  Each time I 
pressed the Left Arrow key, it brought me back to the beginning of the track.  
What am I doing wrong.  I am holding down the Option and Right Arrow key until 
the track stops playing.

Thanks,
Janet
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 I usually do this by pressing option right arrow until I get to the end of 
 the track.  then I press left arrow by itself a couple of times.  I then 
 press space bar and the sound starts just a bit before the end of the sound.
 
 You could also press command G and bring up the go to dialogue.  Then enter 
 the time that brings you near the end of the recording.  
 
 I hope these tips help.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 
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 Hi Everyone,
 
 Is there a keyboard command in Amadeus Pro that will bring me to the end of 
 a track and let me use my left arrow  to edit the last few seconds of the 
 track?  I had a big editing job today and of course most of what I needed to 
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Re: Amadeus Pro Keyboard Command

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Eric,

I listened to your Amadeus Pro podcast that you did on Applevis.  It's 
excellent.  I learned a lot.

Janet
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 Hi Janet,
 
   Like you I've also found it tricky to get to the end of a sound and 
 edit at the end.  But the steps I gave work for me.  Perhaps I didn't write 
 them out clearly or we are not doing exactly the same thing.
 
 To get to the end of a sound that has no markers I have the focus in the 
 scrol area and the file is not playing.
 I press option right arro 
 I then press just left arrow with no modifier once 
 I then press space bar to start play and immediately press left arrow again 
 to move away from the end of the sound. 
 
 Another trick is to use option right arrow to go to the end of the sound.
 use command shift M to open the marker dialogue 
 look at the position  
 then close that dialogue
 
 Press command  for the go to location dialogue then enter a number lower by a 
 minute.
 Press OK and you will be at that spot in your sound.
 
 
 quick Nav is off for all of this.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Feb 22, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Janet Ingber janet.ing...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi eric,
 
 I used Option-Right Arrow and went to the end of the track.  Each time I 
 pressed the Left Arrow key, it brought me back to the beginning of the 
 track.  What am I doing wrong.  I am holding down the Option and Right Arrow 
 key until the track stops playing.
 
 Thanks,
 Janet
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 Hi Janet,
 
 I usually do this by pressing option right arrow until I get to the end of 
 the track.  then I press left arrow by itself a couple of times.  I then 
 press space bar and the sound starts just a bit before the end of the sound.
 
 You could also press command G and bring up the go to dialogue.  Then enter 
 the time that brings you near the end of the recording.  
 
 I hope these tips help.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Janet Ingber janet.ing...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Is there a keyboard command in Amadeus Pro that will bring me to the end 
 of a track and let me use my left arrow  to edit the last few seconds of 
 the track?  I had a big editing job today and of course most of what I 
 needed to edit was at the very end of the track.
 
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Amadeus Pro Keyboard Command

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Hi Everyone,

Is there a keyboard command in Amadeus Pro that will bring me to the end of a 
track and let me use my left arrow  to edit the last few seconds of the track?  
I had a big editing job today and of course most of what I needed to edit was 
at the very end of the track.

Many thanks,

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Re: Voice over issue in sleep mode

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Hi Hope,

Hold down the Control key and then press the power button.  The Shut Down 
dialogue should come up.  Let me know if it doesn’t work.

Happy New Year,
Janet
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 Hello all. I am, for some reason, not experiencing the bug with voice over 
 not talking upon waking my mac from sleep mode. I am, however, experiencing 
 an issue when I press the power button and release immediately. My father, 
 who also has a mac but does not use voice over is able to receive the shut 
 down dialogue when he presses/releases the button. My mac, however, goes into 
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Clean Install and Transferring Files

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Hello Everyone,

Happy Holidays.

I had my Mac at the Apple Store because it was having some problems.  The tech 
erased the Mac and re-installed Mavericks.  I have a CGate back-up drive.  The 
tech told me to  tell the Mac to start the Mac and have it transfer files from 
the back-up drive.  He added that everything would then be transferred back to 
the Mac.   Although the programs seem to be here, my documents, music,etc did 
not transfer over.  I can find them on the back-up drive.  Also none of my 
VoiceOver settings and modifications transferred over.  Any suggestions on what 
to do?

Thanks,
Janet

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Re: command for app delete.

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Chris,

Thanks for all these apps.  Do you have a favorite one?

Janet
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 App Delete is $8 and can be found here:
 
 http://www.reggieashworth.com/appdelete
 
 App Cleaner is another one which is free:
 
 http://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/
 
 App Zapper is another commercial one for $13:
 
 http://appzapper.com
 
 Clean App is another commercial on which is usually $15 but is on sale for 
 $7.50 until December 27th:
 
 http://www.syniumsoftware.com/cleanapp/
 
 CB
 
 On 12/20/13 6:48 AM, Jessica D wrote:
  is it free? who is the developer? this way i can be absolutely sure i am in 
 the correct place.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 It's not on your Mac by default and I'm pretty sure it's not on the Mac App 
 Store. You have to download it from the developer. Try googling it I'm sure 
 you'll find it. It's a great app, very accessible and much better than just 
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Re: moving an item to the dock

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Hi Don,

The command to move an application to the Dock is Command-Control-Shift-t, if 
you’re using Mavericks.  To add an item to the Dock, open your Applications 
folder and locate the app you want to add.  Then, just type the key combination 
above.  VoiceOver will say something like “Add to Dock.”

As far as I know there isn’t any limit to how many apps you can keep on the 
dock.  You can remove the apps you don’t use from Apple from the Dock, but you 
cannot delete them from your computer.

Hope this helps.

Janet
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 Hi I tried the control shift t and all it does is make the ding sound.  I’m 
 pretty sure I had radium selected before doing this.  Also, I have all the 
 default icons on the dock.  Do I need to remove some of them to make room for 
 the radium icon?
 
 Simply unsure as to what I’m doing wrong here.
 
 Don
 
 
 On Dec 7, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Gerry Cook gerryc...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 
 comand control shift t will add it to the dock. 
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
 Skype: gerry.cook1 
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
 On 8 Dec 2013, at 5:07 pm, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Just purchased Radium for the mac.  The program downloaded okay and it 
 installed all automatically.
 It’s in the applications folder where it should be (I think) 
 I’m trying to move it to the dock, but commmand shift t doesn’t seem to do 
 anything.  What am I missing?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Abbyy Fine Reader Pro

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Everyone,

I purchased the Pro upgrade to Abbyy Fine Reader Express.  When I downloaded 
the upgrade, it ended up in my downloads folder as an  disk image file rather 
than.ap.  I copied and pasted the file into my Applications folder, but the 
only Abbyy app I have is my Fine Reader Express.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: Abbyy Fine Reader Pro

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Anne,

I did the steps you mentioned.  Only Abbyy Fine Reader Express is showing up in 
my Applications folder.  I definitely opened the disk image and copied the.ap 
file and pasted it into the Applications folder.  Any idea about what’s 
happening?

Thanks,
Janet
On Dec 7, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Janet,
 
 When you have a DMG, it’s a disk image and you need to open it. Sometimes, 
 this gives you a file browser containing a .pkg file which is an installer 
 package. You open this with Cmd-o and follow the instructions, but mostly, 
 you go to the last visible item and click Continue over and over again.
 
 In the case of FineReader Pro, opening the disk image gives you a file 
 browser containing the app and an alias to the Applications folder. Just copy 
 the app with Cmd-c, then open the Applications folder with Cmd-Shift-a and 
 paste in the app with Cmd-v.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 8 Dec 2013, at 00:40, Janet Ingber janet.ing...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I purchased the Pro upgrade to Abbyy Fine Reader Express.  When I downloaded 
 the upgrade, it ended up in my downloads folder as an  disk image file 
 rather than.ap.  I copied and pasted the file into my Applications folder, 
 but the only Abbyy app I have is my Fine Reader Express.  What am I doing 
 wrong?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: MBA Help

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Hi Lee,
There are also some good Mac Tutorials on How To Be Blind.  Visit www.htb2.com 
and search for Mac tutorials.

As far as VO and key combinations,  bring up the commands help menu with VO-HH.

Take your time and don’t try to learn everything in a day.  Also, Apple has a 
tech support number which will put you in touch with support staff who are 
trained in using VoiceOver.  The number is: (877) 204-3930.

David Woodbridge did an excellent introductory tutorial on Mavericks. You can 
find it on the AppleVis website.  Search for Mavericks in Podcasts.

Hope this helps.

Janet
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 agh using a mac mini didn’t even think of the fn key.
 Cheers 
 Maria  
 
 sent from mac mini 
 email,  fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 skype bubbygirl1972  twitter same as skype without the numbers. 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 5 Dec 2013, at 8:59 am, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try pressing the FN key alont with control and option. You can change
 the need for this in preferences later but by default you'll need to
 press it on the lap top keyboard. so it's going to be
 fn/control/option/F8 to start the VO utility.
 
 
 On 12/4/13, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote:
 Dear List,I got my macbook air today. I hav found it a very tough learning
 curve. I can't get control option f8 to bring up the voice over utility no
 matter how many times I try,, a sighted person has also tried and it does
 not work.  Does the focus have to be somewhere special to make this work?How
 do you turn off the macbook do you use the on off button or is there a way
 in OSX itself, a shut down button?  Can Someone explain very simply the
 difference between the functions of control option and the arrow keys,
 control option command and the arrow keys,control option shift and the arrow
 keys because maybe I'm thick but I don't get it!
 is it possible to download voices without using the voice over utility?  I
 am suddenly not hating freedom scientific quite so much.
 
 Many Thanks, Lee  -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Olivares
 Sent: 04 December 2013 15:18
 To: “Mac Visionaries“
 Subject: Re: Option Key Not Working
 
 Nope it doesn't matter if keyboard commander is on or off.
 
 On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:59 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 OK just a couple of ideas!
 1, do you have both option keys set to use with keyboard commander!
 2, Just try switching off keyboard commander with VO+shift+k and see if
 the option key things like € • and others!
 I've found if you need to use those items it is best to toggle on or off
 keyboard commander when needed!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 4 Dec 2013, at 07:25, Brandon Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My option key works technically, as if I press ctrl-option-space it works
 just fine.
 
 However, if I try to navigate by word with option left or right arrow, it
 doesn't work. The cursor just doesn't move and voiceover doesn't say
 anything. I can use command arrow to navigate, or just the arrow keys
 themselves, but not using option.
 
 i also can't use it to enter special characters, like accents and such.
 
 But it does work when I use it for keyboard commander to open certain
 applications. So it seems very selective about when it works or not. I
 don't understand why this is happening.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
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VO-J and Mail

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Hello Everyone,

When I use VO-J to jump from the message list to an individual email,a few 
lines are read and then without my doing anything, I’m back in the messages 
table.  This does not only happen with my Gmail account.  I am using the 
default mail view and I have not made any changes.  This behavior started a few 
days ago.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Re: Mavericks and Gmail

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Hi Matthew,

I checked my Gmail settings and I too did not disable all mail.  Hopefully 
things will go smoothly when I upgrade.  When I bought my Macbook Air, the 
techs set up my email at the store.

Thanks,
Janet
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 Hi,
 
 I am using 10.9 with no problems with gmail.  I ofcorse did not disable all 
 mail so that may have something to do with it.  Just my thoughts.
 
 
 matthew dyer 
 sent from my 27 inch iMac.
 
 
 
 facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
 
 Skype: graduater2004
 
 
 
 
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 Hi Everyone,
 
 Since my Gmail address is my primary email address has anyone been able to 
 install Mavericks and not have a problem with Gmail? I'd like to update to 
 Mavericks and changing my email address would be a real pain.
 
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Mavericks and Gmail

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Hi Everyone,

Since my Gmail address is my primary email address has anyone been able to 
install Mavericks and not have a problem with Gmail? I'd like to update to 
Mavericks and changing my email address would be a real pain.

Thanks,
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Re: Mavericks and Gmail

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your response.  Do I make the changes in Mail preferences or on the 
Gmail website.  Also, since I'd be using a Pop server, would the messages sync 
between my iPhone and Mac?

Thanks again,
Janet
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 No problem if you use Gmail via Pop3. Just make sure to tell Mail to never 
 remove messages from the server if you have multiple devices.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
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 Hi Everyone,
 
 Since my Gmail address is my primary email address has anyone been able to 
 install Mavericks and not have a problem with Gmail? I'd like to update to 
 Mavericks and changing my email address would be a real pain.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Question about Mail on iPhone

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I've had that problem.  What works for me is to turn the phone off and then 
turn it back on.  In my case the email disappeared.

Janet
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 Hi, all!
 I have an email on my iPhone, that just won't leave my inbox. I can try 
 deleting it, or moving it to the trash, and it sounds like it's doing it, but 
 then when I go back into my inbox, it's still there. Does anyone else have 
 problems like this? This is with a live.ca account, (or some would call it 
 hotmail, i guess, although it's now outlook.com instead of hotmail, but you 
 can still use your hotmail account to access it). Anyhow, can anyone suggest 
 anything I can do about this? I haven't had that with any other emails that i 
 can think of from this hotmail or live.ca account, or whatever it's called.. 
 I don't know why it's just this one email that won't leave my inbox on my 
 phone.
 If someone could let me know, that would be great.
 God bless!!!
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Re: facebook on the mac

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Hi Kimberly,

This is a quirky app.  To launch it, type Control-F.  That's the hot  key.

Janet
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 I installed this app, and it seems to keep disappearing on me.  It doesn't 
 show up when I command/tab through open apps, and I also hear Menu Tab has no 
 windows.  What am I doing wrong?  
 On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I use the free version of menuTab for Facebook.  It's on the mac app store.
 
 It meets my needs fine.  You can navigate posts via headings.  If you find 
 occasionally you can't vo-space on something, try mouse keys vo-shift-space.
 
 Traci
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 I just use the normal Facebook site with Safari. I definitely find it 
 clunky but it's accessible and has more functionality than the mobile site. 
 The main tricks to using it are tabbing to enter text edit fields and just 
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Re: facebook on the mac

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Glad to help.  I had the same issues you had and it drove me crazy.
On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Kimberly thurman kkthur...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Oh wow!  Thanks!  that works.  I do  like the app so far, now that I've 
 learned how to launch it.  lol
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 Hi Kimberly,
 
 This is a quirky app.  To launch it, type Control-F.  That's the hot  key.
 
 Janet
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 I installed this app, and it seems to keep disappearing on me.  It doesn't 
 show up when I command/tab through open apps, and I also hear Menu Tab has 
 no windows.  What am I doing wrong?  
 On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I use the free version of menuTab for Facebook.  It's on the mac app store.
 
 It meets my needs fine.  You can navigate posts via headings.  If you find 
 occasionally you can't vo-space on something, try mouse keys 
 vo-shift-space.
 
 Traci
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Re: pop-up button?

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Hi Vivianna,

A button is a single control such as the Send button on a form.  A Pop-Up 
button or pop-up menu is a menu which you can activate with VO-Spacebar.  Once 
the pop-up is open, use VO and the up or down arrow keys to review what's in 
the menu.  Then make your selection with VO-Spacebar.

Janet
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 hi.  could someone tell me, what is the difference between a button and a 
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 thanks.
 
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Re: [Maccessibility] Prizmo OCR App for iOS Enhances VoiceOver Support

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Check out ABBYY TextGrabber and Translator.  I've reviewed several apps 
including Prizmo and TextDetective and ABBYY is my favorite.

HTH
Janet
On Jul 23, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 To spaek frankly, I am not impressed either.  Text Detective doesn't get me 
 much better results either.  The only conclution I can come to is that no 
 matter what I try, I'm just not aiming the camera lense quite right.  Maybe 
 that scan box thingy might be a good idea, at least as a learning tool until 
 I get it straight.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
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 It sure doesn't work well on an iPad Mini. I gave it a try and even while 
 holding it really still, it kept vasalating between No page detected or 
 Ready to scan but most of the time if I got anything at all, it was a 
 total mess! I don't think this app will get much use from me. I'm not 
 impressed at all.
 
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 Hi,
 
 It usually says no page visible within a split second of saying page 
 detected.
 
 Some of the  scanning results have been far better than before whereas  
 others have been equally bad.Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 16, 2013, at 3:40 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 When you get the iPhone above what you're scanning, have you been double 
 tapping the screen, being very careful to hold it as level as possible 
 when it says it's detected the page? If it doesn't make that picture 
 taking sound, you haven't done the picture. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On May 15, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Mika Pyyhkala pyyhk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have still not been able to get it to fully work with the update,
 but it may just be I'm not doing something right.
 
 I get the text prompts about orienting the page, and once its right, I
 press Take Picture.
 
 Usually it doesn't do anything or just gives tones, and I'm not sure
 what the tones mean.  In most cases, it hasn't made the shutter sound
 as if its actually taking the photo.
 
 I have read people have gotten it to work so am hopeful there is just
 a bit more of technique needed.
 
 Best,
 Mika
 
 
 On 5/15/13, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Does prism work on an iPhone 4? At the risk of sounding cheap, I don't 
 want
 to utilize something that is going to be inferior on my old phone.
 On 2013-05-15, at 12:41 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'm going to try it later as I've never been successful with it but this
 update might help.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 15 May 2013, at 01:21 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 I tried the new Prizmo update. I like it a lot. I was never successful 
 at
 getting Prizmo give me good text until they came out with this update. 
 I
 know other people of been able to get it to work without that, but not
 me.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
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 Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'Prizmo OCR App for iOS Enhances
 VoiceOver Support'
 
 Prizmo, a scanning, OCR, and speech application for iPhone and iPad, 
 has
 been updated with enhanced support for VoiceOver. From the release
 notes:
 Prizmo is made for everyone, and is thus fully compatible with
 VoiceOver. It provides voice guidance to help position your iPhone 
 when
 taking document pictures, and will find the text [...]
 
 
 You may view the latest post at
 http://maccessibility.net/2013/05/14/prizmo-ocr-app-for-ios-enhances-voiceover-support/
 
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Hi Everyone,

I tried Classic view in Mail, and as expected VO-J moved me from my inbox to 
the mailbox table.  I decided to go back to the regular view in mail, but VO-J 
no longer moves me from the inbox to the text of the selected email.  Instead 
it still moves me between the two tables.  Do I need to change something?

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Word Count in TextEdit

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Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to get a word count for a document in TextEdit?

Many thanks,

Janet

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Re: Scanner for the iPhone

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Hi Christie,

My favorite is Abbyy TextGrabber and Translator   

Janet 

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Re: a program that can scan and read menus and pap0ers

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Hello Scott,

Are you talking about an app for the Mac or for an iOS device?

Janet Ingber
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Re: a program that can scan and read menus and pap0ers

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Hi Scott,

I really like ABBYY TextGrabber and Translator .  I reviewed it in the current 
issue of AccessWorld.  Visit www.afb.org/accessworld

Another good app is Prizmo.

Good luck,
Janet
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