Re: zip files
HI May, For zip files that aren't password protected, just press Command-O while focused on the file, and it is unzipped. It is located in the same folder as the original zipped file. best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: skip blank lines
Hi, Sometimes an HTML message includes a text alternative, which reads better and doesn't read all those blank lines. To access it, press Command-Option P, or go to the View Menu, choose Message, then Plain Text Alternative. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: viewing suggestions in spell checker
HI Donna, For one brief shining moment, just before Snow Leopard, I could press Command-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M in just about any program and get a list of misspelled words. It was great. but with Snow Leopard, pressing VO-Shift-M doesn't work in most places anymore. That means the only way to see suggestions, as far as I know, is through the spell check dialog accessed with Command-Colon. The suggestions are in a table, so you can move to them with VO-Command-T. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: introduction and more questions
hI Rhonda, I got a Mac Mini in June, and that was my first Mac experience, so I know how you feel. I suggest you download Mike Arrigo's podcasts from www.blindcooltech.com All but the last two are about Leopard rather than snow Leopard, but almost everything still applies. There are ten in all, and they're very thorough. Good luck, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacBook Pro Out Of The Box
Hi, Depending on your keyboard, you may have to press Command-FN-F5. Try Command-F5, and if that doesn't work, try again adding the FN key. A tutorial will help you learn basic VO navigation. It's also possible you won't need to turn VoiceOver on at all. When I turned on my Mac Mini for the first time, there was a prompt to select a language, and VO said "English." Once I selected a language, VO said to press one key to continue using VO and go to the tutorial. I pressed the key it said, and everything worked. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Converting bookshare books to Audio in the Mac
Hi Will, the unzipped file goes to your Home folder. Best, Anna On Sep 30, 2009, at 4:35 PM, william lomas wrote: > > where does it go though > > On 30 Sep 2009, at 18:52, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi Will, >> >> I asked a similar question a few days ago. YOu can either unzip using >> Terminal or download a program; Unarchiver was recommended. I tried >> the Terminal approach yesterday and it worked great: >> Go to Finder/Utilities and open Terminal. >> Type "unzip -e " paste in the file you want to unzip, and press >> Enter. >> You will soon be prompted for a password; type that in and press >> Enter. The book is unzipped. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Converting bookshare books to Audio in the Mac
Hi Will, I asked a similar question a few days ago. YOu can either unzip using Terminal or download a program; Unarchiver was recommended. I tried the Terminal approach yesterday and it worked great: Go to Finder/Utilities and open Terminal. Type "unzip -e " paste in the file you want to unzip, and press Enter. You will soon be prompted for a password; type that in and press Enter. The book is unzipped. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voice over instruction manuals
Hi Simon. The Getting STarted guide for VoiceOver in Snow Leopard is at the bottom of the vO help menu. Press VO-H, then Up Arrow, and you've got it. That particular version is in HTML and opens in safari. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sharing folders on my Mac
Hi Frank, Go to the Apple menu, choose System Preferences, then Sharing. In the Services table, select the File Sharing row and be sure it's checked. Stop interacting with that row and VO-Right Arrow to the Options button. ONe of the options is the "Share files and folders using SMB (Windows)" check box. Check this box. Then press Enter to activate the Done button, close System Preferences, and you should be all set. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: unzipping password-protected archives
Thanks so much, Justin and Esther. It's great to have alternatives to try. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: songs appearing in iTunes?
Hi Donna, I've never heard of iTunes randomly giving people songs. Are they the whole song, or just a sample? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
unzipping password-protected archives
Hi, I just downloaded a book from Bookshare and tried to unpack it, and I was surprised to find out that the archive program that comes with the Mac doesn't know how to handle password-protected zip files. I was told it couldn't open the file, and that was it. Is there some setting I can change to make it work, and if not, is there an accessible program for the Mac that can do the job? Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: songs appearing in iTunes?
Hi Donna, Very strange. Is there anyone else on your network? And these songs are really in iTunes - you're not streaming them from a shared computer? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: songs appearing in iTunes?
Hi Donna, Did your husband purchase these songs recently, by any chance? I know itunes 9 can be configured so that whenever one person on a network buys music from the iTunes store, the songs they purchase get copied to other computers on the network; could that be it? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Copying and creating items in the list view
Hi James, When you're in the folder you want to create a subfolder in, press Command-N. To put items in a folder, copy them with Command-C. HTH, anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: web browsing
Hi Donna, Have you tried DOM as well as Group mode? IN situations where one doesn't read something correctly, sometimes the other does. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying a CD
Thanks, Erik. On Sep 25, 2009, at 10:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi > > I didn't have any trouble finding it on google, but here's what it > says in the about dialog anyway. It should help. > Macintosh Audio for OS X > > http://sbooth.org/Max/ > > Distributed under the terms of the GPL. > > Send feedback to m...@sbooth.org > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-09-25, at 11:45 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> HI Erik, >> >> Could you give me a URL or a more specific name for Max? I can't find >> anything useful when I search for it on Google. >> >> Thanks, >> Anna >> >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2009, at 9:11 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hum, you could do it with itune if you can abide the thing. >>> Personally, I couldn't get it to retain my encoder settings once I'd >>> set them up, and so I switched to max. >>> >>> Max has served me extremely well. It supports a lot more formats >>> than >>> Itunes does, and it can intergrate with your itunes library if you >>> really want it too. I don't use nearly all the features, but I do >>> use >>> the audio conversion, cd ripping and tagging in flac and mp3 and >>> it's >>> very streamlined and nice. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2009-09-25, at 12:30 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is there a way to copy an audio CD on the Mac with the software it >>>> comes with? If not, what software works well for this? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying a CD
HI Erik, Could you give me a URL or a more specific name for Max? I can't find anything useful when I search for it on Google. Thanks, Anna On Sep 25, 2009, at 9:11 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hum, you could do it with itune if you can abide the thing. > Personally, I couldn't get it to retain my encoder settings once I'd > set them up, and so I switched to max. > > Max has served me extremely well. It supports a lot more formats than > Itunes does, and it can intergrate with your itunes library if you > really want it too. I don't use nearly all the features, but I do use > the audio conversion, cd ripping and tagging in flac and mp3 and it's > very streamlined and nice. > > Best, > > erik burggraaf > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2009-09-25, at 12:30 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to copy an audio CD on the Mac with the software it >> comes with? If not, what software works well for this? >> >> Thanks, >> Anna >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: previews?
HI Jessi, I'm not sure I would have thought of using the item chooser to look for specific buttons if it hadn't been for Mike Arrigo's podcasts. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: previews?
Hi William, With the latest version of itunes that came out this week, every track has a Preview button. Clicking this button with VO-Space plays the preview. It works really well on my system. What I do is search for Preview in the Item Chooser. Then all the tracks are listed, and I can arrow up and down the list. When I find one I want to preview, I press Enter, then VO-Space. Another thing I discovered is that you don't have to be in the HTML content to use the Next Heading command, VO-Command-H. So now after I conduct a search, I press this command to go straight to the first heading. This puts me in the browser portion of the page, where I can make choices about what to view. If there's a list of albums I'm interested in, I go to the Item Chooser and type Button. Then all the Buy buttons appear in a list, and I can arrow through them to see which albums are available and how much they cost. It works well. I hope the table that shows songs will soon be a real table you can navigate by moving up and down columns or across rows, but other than that, it seems like the store is once again pretty easy to use. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Getting Stuck in Submenus with VO. Does this happen to you?
Hi Pete, When I upgraded to version 10.6.1 a couple of weeks ago, the problem of getting lost in menus went away. I have the VO cursor set to follow the mouse, and I'm having no problems in menus. I did have the problem before updating. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
copying a CD
Hi, Is there a way to copy an audio CD on the Mac with the software it comes with? If not, what software works well for this? Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two small mail and VO questions
Hi Christina, I'm sorry. You're right; Status isn't in the Columns menu. I found the menu and that it controlled which columns were shown, and I assumed Status was there without actually looking for it. You know what happens when you assume. sorry about that. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: refreshing or redrawing the screen
Hi Howard, Thanks a lot. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. Best, Anna On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote: > > This is how it was once explained to me when I was wondering the same > thing: Because Windows screen readers are operating as an overlay and > not as an integral part of the OS, most of them use something called > an off-screen model. What you are hearing is actually information that > the screen reader took from the details being sent to the computer's > screen. Consequently, the screen and the reader can get out of synch > from time to time. Thus, the need to refresh after, to use just one > common example, something pops up on your screen and leaves things a > jumbled mess -- at least in the eyes of the screen reader -- after you > get rid of it .But since VO isn't working that way, refreshing the > screen is unnecessary. At least that's what I took from an > explanation from someone who understands computers -- both hardware > and software -- a whole heck of a lot better than I do. > > Woody Anna Dresner wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to have VO redraw the screen as you can with Windows >> screen readers when the screen reader and screen content get out of >> sync? Or do the two not get out of sync because VO is part of the >> operating system? >> >> Thanks, >> Anna > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
refreshing or redrawing the screen
Hi, Is there a way to have VO redraw the screen as you can with Windows screen readers when the screen reader and screen content get out of sync? Or do the two not get out of sync because VO is part of the operating system? Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: twitter for the mac, what will work with vo?
Hi Kevin, I don't know of an easy way to find out how many tweets Syrinx stores. I do know that I have several hundred tweets in it right now, including a direct message from the end of July when I first joined Twitter, so I think it keeps all of them. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Skype and VO-Shift M
Hi michael, I'm also using Snow Leopard, and I just tried pressing VO-Shift-M on a Skype contact and got the regular menu with Call, send File, etc. You could try pressing VO-Command-F5 to bring mouse focus to the contact before using the command; maybe that would help. Also, are you running the latest version of Snow Leopard that came out a week or two ago? If not, that might help. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two small mail and VO questions
Hi STan, That's right, the command is VO-Vertical LIne. I just wrote it the other way because I figured more people know where the Backslash is then where the vertical line is. best, Anna On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Stan wrote: > > Hi Anna, > Sorry, the sort keys, will not work on my keyboard, for the "shift" > changes "backslash" to "vertical line". > So how does it work. > Cheers, > Stan. > > On 24 Sep 2009, at 4:17 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi Frank, >> >> If you don't care about seeing status - unread, replied, etc. - go to >> the View menu with Control-F2, V, Enter. Arrow down to Columns and >> press Enter. Check or uncheck columns to show or hide them by >> pressing >> Enter. >> >> If you want to keep status on screen but don't want to hear it all >> the >> time, interact with the messages table and move to the column you >> want, such as subject. Then as you arrow up and down, all you hear is >> the subjects of the messages. You can move to other columns as needed >> to hear other info, such as the sender. >> >> As for sorting, interact with the Messages table and move to the >> column you want to sort, in this case Date Received. Press VO-Shift- >> Backslash to sort by that column. Press it again if you want to >> reverse the sort order. >> >> HTH,. >> Anna >> >> >>> > > Cheers, > Stan > Telephone; +27396992700, > KwaZuluNatal, > South Africa. > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: twitter for the mac, what will work with vo?
Hi, I use Syrinx, and one thing I love about it is how easy it is to read tweets in the order they were received. You can set a bookmark on the last tweet you read, then use a Go to Bookmark command and press the Spacebar repeatedly to move the bookmark up one tweet and hear it read. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two small mail and VO questions
Hi Frank, If you don't care about seeing status - unread, replied, etc. - go to the View menu with Control-F2, V, Enter. Arrow down to Columns and press Enter. Check or uncheck columns to show or hide them by pressing Enter. If you want to keep status on screen but don't want to hear it all the time, interact with the messages table and move to the column you want, such as subject. Then as you arrow up and down, all you hear is the subjects of the messages. You can move to other columns as needed to hear other info, such as the sender. As for sorting, interact with the Messages table and move to the column you want to sort, in this case Date Received. Press VO-Shift- Backslash to sort by that column. Press it again if you want to reverse the sort order. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
next table command useful navigation tool
Hi, You guys may already know this, but I didn't, and it's cool. I discovered a couple of days ago that the command to move to the next table, VO-Command-T, works in lots of programs, not just Safari, this can be invaluable for navigation. for instance, in itunes it takes you directly to the Sources table or the Songs table. In Mail, if you conduct a search with Command-Option-F, it takes you right to the search results table. IN Skype, it takes you to the table listing contacts. In the spell check, it takes you from the misspelled word right to the list of suggestions. In short, I think this is going to be one of my most used navigation tools. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: anyone see any improvements in latest itunes?
HI Will, The Songs table that shows songs in the iTunes store is part of the HTML content now rather than separate, but the one you access to listen to music in the music library is still there. have you rebooted since installing the update? Before I rebooted, I had a lot of trouble with focus issues when moving around in the Songs table, but that problem resolved itself after the reboot. Unfortunately, the focus issues in the column browser were not resolved by a reboot. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Hi Michael, The Getting STarted guide is also the last option on the Help menu accessed with VO-H. When you select this option, it opens as an HTML file in Safari. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
anyone see any improvements in latest itunes?
Hi, I just updated to the new version of iTunes, 9.1 I think it is. I don't see any improvements in accessibility; there are still the same focus issues with the column browser, and the songs table in the iTunes store is just as hard to navigate as before. Does anyone else see any improvements over the previous iTunes 9? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Audio Hijack Pro Questions
Hi Robert, i haven't tried to delete a session recently, but if the window won't close, you could try locating it with the Window chooser, VO-F2 twice, and closing it once you're focused on it. In Shane Jackson's podcast on Audio Hijack Pro, which I think is around a year old, the commands for recording, hijacking, and splitting were on the toolbar, so they've been there for a while. They're also on the Control menu, and there are hotkeys; Command-G toggles HIjack off and on, and command-R toggles recording. One thing I love about this new version is that when you use one of these toggles, you are told whether the item is checked or unchecked, meaning on or off. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: nano micro-management
Hi Yuma, You can automatically sync any iPod you like and have the settings completely separate from those of other iPods. You can, for example, sync all audiobooks to your iPhone and sync whichever music playlists you want to your iPod. You can also manage the music on your iPod manually if you want. When the iPod is connected, focus on its name in the Source list and tab to the tab control. Choose Summary and check Manually Manage Music if you want to do it that way. Or if you want to sync automatically, make sure that check box is unchecked. Then switch to the Music tab. Choose Selected PLaylists if you only want to sync part of your iTunes library. Then a list of all your playlists will appear; check the playlists you want to sync. Podcasts are managed separately from music; their behavior is controlled on the POdcasts tab. Again, you can sync all or selected podcasts, and you can determine whether you want all unplayed episodes, the most recent episodes, and various other criteria. If you choose to sync unplayed episodes, any episode you listen to is deleted automatically the next time you connect your iPod to your computer. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: windows 7
Hi May, If you use Boot Camp, you can boot into either Windows or Mac OS. When you choose one, that operating system uses all the resources of the computer, and you have to reboot to use the other. The reason Windows doesn't speak during the install is that you don't have access to VoiceOver. You might want to consider using Fusion instead. This allows you to run Windows while running Leopard. The down side is that your system's resources must be split between the two, but the advantage is that you can switch between Windows and Mac programs and run them simultaneously. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: The iPod Touch...
Hi, The iPod Touch doesn't include a built-in microphone, GPS, or camera. I think those are the biggest differences aside from the phone functionality. There's a great discussion of the iPod Touch on a recent Serotalk podcast at http://serotalk.com/2009/09/16/access-to-itunes-9-0-is-here/ Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voicover being crashy
Hi Anouk, I haven't used Pages much, but I find TextEdit's search facility, accessed with Command-F, works better than the VO one. Command-G is Find Next. I believe the same controls are used in Pages. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO on Nano: Can it Read the menus also?
Hi, I don't have the new Nano, but the manual says if VoiceOver is on, you can check Enable Spoken Menus. Those menus use your system voice. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Do Ipod Classics have VoiceOver?
Hi Pete, I'm pretty sure the Classic doesn't have VoiceOver, unfortunately. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: skype on the iphone
Hi, I don't think you have to worry about syncing Skype contacts. When you sign in to a skype account, you get all your Skype contacts. That's the way it's always worked for me, and I've run Skype on a PC, a Mac, and a PAC Mate. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two Questions - VO reading unread messages and ability to skip past text
Hi James, If Keyboard Commander is on, the Unread Messages command is Option-U, using whichever Option key you selected. I believe you can do this from anywhere if mail is open. I always have to press control after using this command to get speech to work, and if that doesn't work, VO- F1 does the trick. I wish there was a Skip Text command and a command for going to the end of lists, but I don't think there is. However, depending on the site, moving to the next heading (VO-Command-H) or the next auto web spot (VO-Command-N) often does the trick. Best, Anna On Sep 16, 2009, at 3:39 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi list, > > 1. Can someone please remind me of the command to get VO to read > unread messages and in what context to use it please? I mean can it be > used when Mail is open but no windows are open? > > 2. Is there a way to skip past text with VO please? For example when > you are on the BBC website, is there a command to jump past all of > that unnecessary stuff before you get to the headlines? > > Thank you > > Take care > > James > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacOS RFB&D Downloader
Hi Brandon, It doesn't have to. RFB&D offers all their books in DAISY as well as WMA. Thank goodness, as the DAISY books are much easier to navigate. Best, Anna On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > the victor reader stream doesn't play protected wma files yet. > > On Sep 15, 2009, at 3:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote: > >> >> When finished Olearia http://www.cucat.org/project/olearia/ will be >> able to play RFD&B books. For now this is meant as a way to download >> the books and get them into devices such as the VicrtorReader Stream >> or onto CD's >> >> Gregory Kearney >> Manager - Accessible Media >> Association for the Blind of Western Australia >> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 >> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia >> >> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 >> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) >> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 >> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) >> Email: gkear...@gmail.com >> >> On 15/09/2009, at 1:34 PM, Justin Harford wrote: >> >>> >>> Right I was about to say the same thing. This is great that we >>> have a >>> way to download RFBD books to our macs, but still annoying that we >>> haven't got a way to play them. >>> >>> Do you have any suggestions Greg? >>> >>> This is a really great idea. >>> >>> Justin Harford >>> On Sep 14, 2009, at 10:19 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: >>> hi; very good, now, if we could get .wma protected files, to play on the mac, smile mike On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: > > This AppleScript application will ask you to find a .rfbd file and > will then download that book into your downloads directory in the > background. You will find your completed book in your downloads > directory of your home directory. If you have Growl installed you > will > get a notification when the process is completed. > > NOTE: This application will quit after it starts the download. The > Download itself will continue and may take a considerable amount > of > time depending on the title and the speed of your internet > connection. > > If you find this program useful please consider making a donation > to > the Association for the Blind of Western Australia at the address > below: > > Association for the Blind of Western Australia > 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 > Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia > > Gregory Kearney > Manager - Accessible Media > Association for the Blind of Western Australia > 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 > Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia > > Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 > Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) > Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 > Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) > Email: gkear...@gmail.com > > >> > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacOS RFB&D Downloader
Hi justin, RFB&D offers their books in DAISY as well as protected WMA, and you can connect a Victor Stream or Book Sense to the Mac, so you can play RFB&D books without needing protected WMA. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard and Itunes 9
Thanks, Esther. I'll try that. Best, Anna On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Anna, > > What I usually do myself is VO-Right arrow from "Songs" to the "See > all" link and VO-Space. This loads the table of songs onto a new > page, but takes a while to respond, so if you're looking for a track > that is likely to be matched within the first dozen or so item listed, > you're better off just doing VO-Right arrow directly into the table. > When you're on the newly loaded HTML page for the songs list, you'll > notice that you can VO-Right arrow to a link for "Next page" if the > results are really long. Also, you can sort on the column headers, but > only if you are on the fields for the headers of each column for the > table and physically click on the headers with VO-Shift-Space after > routing your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5). > Clicking again reverses sort order. I don't recommend doing this > unless you just like to experiment, since it takes a while to reload, > and I'm not sure that it adds much to the current search. You can't > sort with a context menu or through the VoiceOver Commands menu (VO-H > twice). > > I can't VO-Down arrow through any of the columns (in Leopard), for > instance, to look for a specific Artist when I've done a song search, > so I think you'd be advised to put in as many fields as you want to > select by when you use the Power Search. > > What may have happened for the first 22 tracks you could preview is > that you were in a scrolling table that didn't update. That may be > why we're forced to VO-Right arrow through the individual tracks. You > could try commands like VO-End and VO-Home (to go to end and > beginning, including scrolling). I think its more robust to press > "See all" and have the songs table load by itself on to a new page > instead of working with results embedded in the HTML area containing > Album results, etc. in terms of working with VoiceOver but it is less > responsive in terms of having to wait for the new page to load. > > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi Esther, >> >> Thanks for the directions for finding and previewing tracks. They >> work >> well for the most part. I was going through a song list of about 50 >> songs, and had no trouble previewing the first 22 or so. Then I came >> to a row where the mouse cursor would not route to the vO cursor; it >> would only go to the Apple menu. Still, this is way better than no >> access at all. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:36 AM, Esther wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello James, >>> >>> The songs table is now inside the HTML area of iTunes. What I do >>> now >>> is, once I am in the HTML area, I bring up item chooser menu (VO-I) >>> and look for "heading level 2 Songs". Then I VO-Right arrow to the >>> name, time, artist, etc. fields. If you do not have your Mouse >>> cursor >>> following your VoiceOver cursor you will have to route it with VO- >>> Command-F5 when you want to preview the song and click with VO- >>> Shift- >>> Space. I also use this method of clicking on the "Buy" field to >>> make >>> my purchase. >>> >>> HTH. Maybe someone else can make suggestions (I'm not upgraded to >>> Snow Leopard yet, but am using iTunes 9). >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2009, James Fettgather wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi to the list. >>>> >>>> I am really confused about how to purchase a song using Itunes 9. >>>> I type a title into the search field, no problem. >>>> >>>> Hit Enter. >>>> >>>> I can find the HTML portion of the Itunes store without difficulty >>>> containing all of the albums with the particular song, but the >>>> songs >>>> table listing individual songs is simply missing, pressing VO right >>>> arrow simply is showing no song table at all. >>>> >>>> Any hints about where the heck is the songs table would sure be >>>> helpful, and thanks a lot. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard and Itunes 9
Hi Esther, Thanks for the directions for finding and previewing tracks. They work well for the most part. I was going through a song list of about 50 songs, and had no trouble previewing the first 22 or so. Then I came to a row where the mouse cursor would not route to the vO cursor; it would only go to the Apple menu. Still, this is way better than no access at all. Best, Anna On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:36 AM, Esther wrote: > > Hello James, > > The songs table is now inside the HTML area of iTunes. What I do now > is, once I am in the HTML area, I bring up item chooser menu (VO-I) > and look for "heading level 2 Songs". Then I VO-Right arrow to the > name, time, artist, etc. fields. If you do not have your Mouse cursor > following your VoiceOver cursor you will have to route it with VO- > Command-F5 when you want to preview the song and click with VO-Shift- > Space. I also use this method of clicking on the "Buy" field to make > my purchase. > > HTH. Maybe someone else can make suggestions (I'm not upgraded to > Snow Leopard yet, but am using iTunes 9). > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Sep 13, 2009, James Fettgather wrote: > >> >> Hi to the list. >> >> I am really confused about how to purchase a song using Itunes 9. >> I type a title into the search field, no problem. >> >> Hit Enter. >> >> I can find the HTML portion of the Itunes store without difficulty >> containing all of the albums with the particular song, but the songs >> table listing individual songs is simply missing, pressing VO right >> arrow simply is showing no song table at all. >> >> Any hints about where the heck is the songs table would sure be >> helpful, and thanks a lot. >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Message headers and voiceover
Hi Simon, Clicking the physical mouse while the mouse is focused on the email address in the header opens the menu where you can reply to sender, etc. Just be sure you either have the mouse set to follow the VO cursor or that you press VO-Command-F5 to get it to the right place. Best, Anna On Sep 13, 2009, at 5:18 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Dear Has anyone noticed that if you go to the message headers under > Snow Leopard, you no longer have buttons wiht senders e-mail addresses > which you can activate with vo+spacebar and choose what you wish to do > with them? Is there another way of doing so? I used to love this > feature. I can't seem to interact with the headers much either and > read the information letter by letter. Am I missing someting? > > With best, Simon > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: podcasts on your iPod?
Hi, When you connect your iPod, choose Podcasts in the Settings area. Press VO-Right Arrow until you reach a pop-up menu called Sync, and choose All Unplayed. That way, when you finish playing a podcast, it will be deleted the next time you sync your iPOd with your computer. The next control or controls, depending which version of iTunes you have, let you choose between syncing all podcasts or selected podcasts. If you choose Selected Podcasts, you then come to a table where all your podcasts are listed. Check the ones you want to sync and uncheck the rest. Then VO-Right Arrow to Apply, and all should work as you want. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: awesome new keyboard command in itunes 9
Hi, Command-Option-F is a nice command. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work on my system. I hope you have better luck. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: speech cutting out
Hi, I discovered something odd about this problem. I checked the time with right Option-T. Then I pressed Control. Then I pressed Up Arrow, and VO said nothing. Same when I pressed Down Arrow. Then I pressed VO-F1, VO read the title of the current app, and all was well. Go figure. Thanks for suggesting pressing Control. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
speech cutting out
Hi, Sometimes if I use one of the built-in Keyboard Commander commands, such as Option-T to read the time or Option-U to read the number of unread messages, VO stops talking for up to 30 seconds afterward. The VO sounds are still there, so I know my sound card is still engaged and VO is running, but there's no speech. Going to the dock seems to help, but only after I try the command a few times. So maybe it's simply that the problem fixes itself at about the time I go there. The same thing happened today when I switched my computer's output from the default Headphones setting to a USB headset and when a Syrynx New Tweet sound played just as an e-mail message began to read. I'm running the latest version of Snow Leopard. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mail and reading messages
Hi James, I have never noticed huge pauses in e-mail messages. Occasionally there is a short pause in an odd place, probably the end of a line, but it's not bad enough on my system to be a major issue. I haven't noticed any changes in the recent update. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
Hi Christina, The Songs table is still there in iTunes 9, and it works as it did before. The accessibility problems some of us have been writing about concern the Playlist browser, which displays artists and albums and which you turn on with Command-B. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: work-around for finding the artist you want
Hi Justin, I'm so glad my suggestions worked for you. I think you were the person who pointed out that focus changes when you arrow up and down the Column Browser, but VO doesn't track the changes. Once you pointed that out, I could figure out what to do. Thanks so much for mentioning that. I wrote detailed step-by-step directions demonstrating VO's lack of ability to track focus in these situations and sent them to accessibil...@apple.com . I figure repeatable step-by-step directions are our best hope of being taken seriously. I also sent a message about problems accessing the songs table in the iTunes store. I got a canned response a couple of hours later saying iTunes had changed completely in this new version and thanking me for my patience, so I imagine they're getting lots of messages on the topic of iTunes accessibility. I heard that GW Micro was told a Windows-accessible version of iTunes would be out in a month, so my guess is that they're hoping to have a Mac update by then as well. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mail and reading messages
Hi Yuma, Have you run Software Update since installing Snow Leopard? There was an update a couple of days ago. I haven't seen the problem of e-mail messages not being read automatically since I installed it, though that doesn't necessarily mean it's fixed. Worth trying, anyway. As for reading e-mail, you can either press Enter to open and read the focused message, or if Preview Pane is on, press VO-J to jump between the message headers and the message. Either way, the splitters are irrelevant. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: access keys on websites
Begin forwarded message: > From: Alex Jurgensen > Date: September 12, 2009 1:04:02 AM CDT > To: Woody Anna Dresner > Subject: Re: access keys on websites > > Hi, > Anna, > > I am E-mailing you offlist, but feel free to share this with the list. > > Without VoiceOver, you press "CONTROL" + "OPTION" + "Access Key" to > use access keys in Safari and Webkit. With VoiceOver running, it is > "CONTROL" + "Access Key" because otherwise there is a big > possibility of the Access Key conflicting with a VoiceOver Keystroke. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > Alex Jurgensen, > AWEBSIGHT Administrator, > ICE Customer Care, > VoiceOver Trainer, > asquare...@visionmail.uni.cc > > Visit us on the web at: http://www.visionmail.uni.cc/ > > On 2009-09-11, at 9:38 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> When a website reports an access key, such as 0 for Home on Facebook, >> what do you have to press with the access key to get it to work? The >> VO help tags don't say. >> >> Thanks, >> Anna >> >> >> >> > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: upgrading.
Hi Eric, I hit that install button, Snow Leopard was installed, and all my data and programs were fine. The only thing that disappeared was Sound Source, presumably because that version doesn't work with Snow Leopard. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Making playlists in iTunes 9
Hi Mike, I was able to create a playlist and add songs to it via copy and paste just fine. I did the following: 1. create and name a new playlist. 2. Go to Music in the Sources table. 3. If desired, type text in the search box to pare down what is shown. 4. Go to the Songs table and interact with it. 5. Select the desired tracks. 6. Type Command-C to copy them to the clipboard. 7. Stop interacting with the Songs table and go to the Sources table again. 8. Type the first few letters of your playlist's name to locate it. 9. Type Command-V to paste. The tracks are added. These are the same steps I used in iTunes 8, so I don't see any changes here. Another option is: 1. Create a playlist. 2. Go to Music in the Sources table. 3. Go to the Songs table and interact with it. 4. Select the tracks you want. 5. Press VO-Shift-M. 6. Type A, or press Down Arrow until you reach Add to Playlist and then press Return. 7. Type the first letter of your playlist's name, or press Down Arrow until you reach it. 8. Press Return. This also works fine in iTunes 9. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
work-around for finding the artist you want
Hi, Thanks to the comment earlier about focus changing when you move around the Column Browser but VO not being aware of it, I found a way to locate an artist you want by typing a few letters. It's a bit tedious, but it works consistently. 1. Go to the View menu and ensure that at least two columns are checked in the column Browser submenu. I suggest Artist and Album. 2. Interact with the Artist column. 3. type the first few letters of the artist's name you want to move to. 4. Stop interacting with the browser, and immediately start interacting again. VO speaks the name of the first artist whose name begins with the letters you typed. 5. If you need to move down from there to a different artist, press Tab to move to the list of albums by the current artist, then Shift- Tab to the artists list. 6. Use VO-Down Arrow to move down from there. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: garbage in address book
Hi, I installed Thunderbird on my Windows machine, imported all my mail into it, then copied the folder containing the mail to my Mac and used its import options to import from thunderbird. I did more or less the same thing with my address book, but there was an additional step of saving the address book to a different format before importing it into Mail. I can't remember what format it was, unfortunately. I followed the steps in David Pogue's Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual, available from Bookshare. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: showing all tweets in Syrinx
Hi Mike, It's easy to forget to try the obvious. Thanks a lot. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:54 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: > > hi; > use escape > mike > > On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what >> someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets >> again? >> I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all >> to >> front, none of which had any effect. >> >> Thanks, >> Anna >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
showing all tweets in Syrinx
Hi, I just used the Show Conversation command in Syrinx to see what someone was replying to. NOw how do I get it to show all tweets again? I tried choosing Timeline, choosing Refresh, and choosing Bring all to front, none of which had any effect. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
Thanks, Justin. This will make it easier to explain what's going on when I send my note to accessibil...@apple.com. It probably also explains why sometimes the arrows and tab key seem to do something and sometimes they don't. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > > Hello > > One thing I can say is that the tab key sort of works under the mac. > The thing about it is that it is not disabled, but that it is just not > working with vo. This goes back to the issue of the broken cursor > tracking in iTunes. The keyboard cursor is moving through the lists, > its just that vo is not reading what is under it. > > Justin > On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the >> playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't >> work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the >> column >> browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to >> interact again. iTunes 9 seems really shaky; sometimes something >> works, and sometimes it doesn't. >> >> Thanks to Google, I did figure out how to get albums to show as well >> as artists in the new Column browser, the iTunes 9 successor to the >> playlist browser. Once you turn on the browser with Command-B, go to >> the View menu. There's a Column Browser submenu where you can check >> or >> uncheck columns such as artist, album, and genre. You can also change >> the location of the browser; it can be on the top or on the left of >> the screen. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on >> accessibility. >> >> Another area for serious concern is that there appears to be no way >> to >> move between different sections of the iTunes window. Ironically, >> navigation is better in Windows in this area; in Windows F6 takes you >> between the Source list, the search box, and the track list. With >> itunes 8, Tab served some of this function; at least it usually took >> me to the Source list and search box. Tab sometimes does something >> with iTunes 9, but often it has no effect at all. It's tedious and >> time-consuming to have to VO-arrow through every control to get to >> what you want. >> >> Finally, while access to the store is certainly better on the Mac >> than >> in Windows, it leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone figured out a >> way to get around in a long list of songs and preview the ones they >> want? I searched for the Essential Michael Jackson and got a table >> which, if I VO-Right Arrow through it, shows one song after another, >> with preview images, song titles, and buy buttons. However, if I try >> to interact with the table so I can move up and down a column to see >> quickly what the tracks are, it doesn't work. The table is reported >> as >> containing only three rows, which is obviously ridiculous, and all I >> see is the preview for the first track and the buy button for the >> last. I've tried the regular VO interact command and also VO-Equals, >> but neither works. Furthermore, pressing Enter on a Preview image >> results in unpredictable behavior. sometimes I am asked if I want to >> buy a track, and sometimes a different page entirely loads. >> >> I plan to write all this to accessibil...@apple.com, but I'd like >> confirmation of the problems first. >> >> It's ironic that Apple improved the accessibility of the Mac and >> iPhone but decreased it significantly in iTunes. I think the more >> constructive comments they hear from the more people, the better. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
access keys on websites
Hi, When a website reports an access key, such as 0 for Home on Facebook, what do you have to press with the access key to get it to work? The VO help tags don't say. Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: creating folders
Hi May, To create a new folder, open the folder in which you want your new one and press Command-Shift-N, type a folder name, and press Return. To delete a file or folder, focus on it and press Command-Delete. Remember that the key the mac calls Delete is called Backspace in Windows. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Hi James, Messages are reading automatically when I press VO-J so far. We'll see what happens when I run Fusion and Windows. Seems like that function usually broke when I switched between Windows and Mac programs. Not always, but more consistently than any other correlation I could find. best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:37 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Thanks for the clarification Anna. Nice ot see that the ouse cursor > issue > might be fixed. How is the reading of messages with VO now? > > Take care > > James > ----- Original Message - > From: "Woody Anna Dresner" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it > > >> >> Hi, >> >> I installed the update last night. There were two, one for the OS and >> one for printer drivers. The total was around 120 MB if I remember >> right. I just checked out the What's New section of VO help, but >> didn't see anything specific to this update. It looks to me like the >> documentation that was written for Snow Leopard. >> >> I just changed the mouse setting so that the mouse follows the VO >> cursor and was able to navigate some menus, so that problem may be >> fixed. Spell checking in Mail by typing VO-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M >> doesn't work, however. I see no improvements to itunes navigation >> either. I've only been working with this for an hour though, so I >> could certainly have missed things. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I >>> read from >>> articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. >>> Apple >>> have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's >>> New in >>> VO help. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> James >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "william lomas" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM >>> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it >>> >>> >>>> >>>> wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . >>>> pauses at the end of each line lol >>>> >>>> On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> They've released 10.6.1 already? >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM >>>>> Subject: don't you just hate it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a >>>>>> critical >>>>>> part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual >>>>>> magic >>>>>> sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my >>>>>> iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... >>>>>> >>>>>> leopard and sl updates are out :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes is Buggy?
Hi, I thought I figured out a way to pick a particular artist from the playlist browser, but when I went back and tried again, it didn't work. The method I tried involved stopping interacting with the column browser, typing a few letters, arrowing around a bit, and starting to interact again. iTunes 9 seems really shaky; sometimes something works, and sometimes it doesn't. Thanks to Google, I did figure out how to get albums to show as well as artists in the new Column browser, the iTunes 9 successor to the playlist browser. Once you turn on the browser with Command-B, go to the View menu. There's a Column Browser submenu where you can check or uncheck columns such as artist, album, and genre. You can also change the location of the browser; it can be on the top or on the left of the screen. Changing this setting appears to have no effect on accessibility. Another area for serious concern is that there appears to be no way to move between different sections of the iTunes window. Ironically, navigation is better in Windows in this area; in Windows F6 takes you between the Source list, the search box, and the track list. With itunes 8, Tab served some of this function; at least it usually took me to the Source list and search box. Tab sometimes does something with iTunes 9, but often it has no effect at all. It's tedious and time-consuming to have to VO-arrow through every control to get to what you want. Finally, while access to the store is certainly better on the Mac than in Windows, it leaves a lot to be desired. Has anyone figured out a way to get around in a long list of songs and preview the ones they want? I searched for the Essential Michael Jackson and got a table which, if I VO-Right Arrow through it, shows one song after another, with preview images, song titles, and buy buttons. However, if I try to interact with the table so I can move up and down a column to see quickly what the tracks are, it doesn't work. The table is reported as containing only three rows, which is obviously ridiculous, and all I see is the preview for the first track and the buy button for the last. I've tried the regular VO interact command and also VO-Equals, but neither works. Furthermore, pressing Enter on a Preview image results in unpredictable behavior. sometimes I am asked if I want to buy a track, and sometimes a different page entirely loads. I plan to write all this to accessibil...@apple.com, but I'd like confirmation of the problems first. It's ironic that Apple improved the accessibility of the Mac and iPhone but decreased it significantly in iTunes. I think the more constructive comments they hear from the more people, the better. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it
Hi, I installed the update last night. There were two, one for the OS and one for printer drivers. The total was around 120 MB if I remember right. I just checked out the What's New section of VO help, but didn't see anything specific to this update. It looks to me like the documentation that was written for Snow Leopard. I just changed the mouse setting so that the mouse follows the VO cursor and was able to navigate some menus, so that problem may be fixed. Spell checking in Mail by typing VO-Semicolon, then VO-Shift-M doesn't work, however. I see no improvements to itunes navigation either. I've only been working with this for an hour though, so I could certainly have missed things. Best, Anna On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:48 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > I've not found any info on the update being released. From what I > read from > articles yesterday the update is still being seeded to developers. > Apple > have said that after you install the update you can go to the What's > New in > VO help. > > Take care > > James > - Original Message - > From: "william lomas" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: Snow Leopard update was don't you just hate it > > >> >> wonder if any voice over issues as in mail ... when ... it . >> pauses at the end of each line lol >> >> On 10 Sep 2009, at 22:40, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> They've released 10.6.1 already? >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:36 PM >>> Subject: don't you just hate it >>> >>> When you're in the middle of a storm, and reading through a critical part for yourintrigue to illuminate, then you find the actual magic sentence to be in a figure image...Feel like using ocr now on my iphone and take a pic of thatstupid figure... leopard and sl updates are out :) > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Navigating and opening applications on your Mac [was Re: Setting Up Access to the Hard drive and Applications]
Hi, Just to add my two cents worth, my favorite way of navigating in Finder is to press the shortcut key that gets me closest to what I want, such as Command-Shift-C for Computer or Command-Shift-H for Home, interacting with the scroll area in list view, and using Command and Up or Down Arrow. Command-Down Arrow opens whatever folder you're focused on, and Command-Up Arrow backs you out a level. If I'm going to move between different places frequently, such as when copying material from several folders onto a victor Stream, I open a new Finder window for one of the folders with Command-N and switch between the windows with Command-Accent. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: more questions
Hi May, The advice I gave holds true in either Leopard or Snow Leopard. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: more questions
Hi May, In the View menu, you can eliminate columns you don't care about, such as the Buddy one. As for reading line by line, you can often arrow up and down using Snow Leopard, but for more precise control, you may need to interact with the text using VO-Down Arrow or, if Quick Nav is on, Down Arrow-Right Arrow. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: weird question re syncing aiphone
Hi Donna, With an iPod, on the Summary tab there is a Manually Manage Music check box. If you uncheck it, you have options for syncing with your itunes library. Maybe the iPhone works the same way. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: purchased book from itunes
Yi Yuma, Check the Audiobooks section in the Source list. If that section isn't displayed, go to Preferences, and on the General tab, check Audiobooks. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copying from itunes
Hi Donna, Once you rename the extension, try moving the file from your desktop to your iTunes folder. Then open it in itunes by pressing Control-O. Best, Anna On Sep 9, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi Esther, > > I finally copied the file, by just opening up Macintosh HD and > finding the > folder and manually copying it. So, now it's on my desktop. But, > When I do > Command-O in Itunes, it won't let me go to my desktop to select a > file. I > can go to Contacts, users, my account folder, and documents, but not > the > desktop. I tried moving the file to documents but I'm still not > able to > view documents from the doc, so have no way to open that folder. Any > thoughts on how I can tell Itunes to look for the file on my desktop? > > Thank you! > Donna > >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther >> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:06 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: copying from itunes >> >> >> Hi Donna, >> >> Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm attempting to follow Simon's instructions for creating >>> ringtones. But I >>> am unable to copy anything out of my itunes songs table, not the new >>> file >>> I've created and not any other files either. This seems to be new >>> behavior >>> with Snow Leopard? At least, it never happened to me before. The >>> copy >>> option shows up in the menu as valid, I've tried pressing Command C, >>> and >>> also activating it through the menu. But when I go to paste it onto >>> my >>> desktop, the paste command shows up as dimmed. Anyone know what >>> could be >>> happening? >> >> You can try the following: if you've created a copied file in iTunes >> with "Create AAC Version" and have that track highlighted in iTunes >> use the "Command-R" shortcut that shows the location of the file in >> Finder to bring up a Finder window with your selected track >> highlighted. Then, from that Finder window, copy the track with >> Command-C and paste it to the Desktop. You should even be able to >> press the shortcut for navigating to the Desktop, "Command-Shift-D", >> just after you copy with Command-C, and then paste with Command-V. >> If >> you have difficulty pasting, switch to icon view with Command-1 and >> try your paste again. >> >> HTH. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >>> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.87/2356 - Release Date: >> 09/09/09 06:53:00 > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: wireless connections
Hi May, Go to the status menu with Control-F8. One of the options is Airport. Press Down Arrow to go into that menu. One of the options should be Turn Airport On. Press Return. At that point, the Mac will search for networks and let you try to connect with what it finds. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: media event
Hi, I've never used the following site before, but they promise to have live blogging and links to video streams of today's Apple event if there are any. http://www.businessinsider.com/alleyinsider Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: finding playback position in ituens, was creating ringtones
Hi Donna, The track you want needs to be playing or paused, and it's a good ideal to press Control-L to bring focus to the currently playing song before going into the LCD section. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: voice over announcing screen attributes and colors in email
Hi Larry, In VoiceOver Utility, choose Verbosity. Choose the Text tab. My guess is that currently, the "When Attributes change" menu is set to Speak. Change it to "Do nothing," and that should take care of it. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: media event
Hi, Does anyone know the time of the event? I'd love a live stream as well. Best, Anna On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: > You might try live.twit.tv around the time of the event. > > > From: lomaswill...@googlemail.com > > Subject: media event > > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:53:37 +0100 > > To: disc...@macvisionaries.com > > > > > > hi will the ipod event on wednesday be streamed anywhere? > > Will > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Accessible Status Menu Bar Icons and VoiceOver (also, new SoundSource for Snow Leopard)
Hi Esther, Your post was interesting. One thing I'm still not clear on, though, is whether there's a way to access the new version of Sound Source. I downloaded it earlier today, and I can't find it either on the status menu or via Command-Tab Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: creating ringtones
Hi Donna, When you get to the place where you want the ringtone to start, press Space to pause playback. Then make sure you're focused on Music in the Source list, press Control-L to focus on the currently playing song, navigate to the LCD section, and interact with it. It includes such information as title, artist, elapsed time, and time remaining. Do the same at the place where you want to end the ringtone. As for being able to create ringtones purchased from the iTunes store, I would imagine you can do this if the songs are itunes Plus, but not protected ones. Anything purchased after April 1 is in itunes Plus, and you can upgrade most previous purchases to iTunes Plus for 30% of the original purchase price. If you're interested in doing this, go to the iTunes store, find the web page portion, and locate the word Upgrade. click the link to see which tracks you can upgrade, and how much it will cost. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Skype and Voice Over.
Hi, this has been a great thread - lots of good information. There really is no way to create a keyboard shortcut for answering a Skype call? Too bad, as that would be the most useful Skype command to access from the keyboard. Best, Anna On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > I read Johnathan's reply as well and I've created some shortcuts here. > > Firstly, you need to ensure that what you wish to create a shortcut > for is in the menu system of Skype, for example creating a shortcut > for "Answer" won't work because an "Answer" command is not in the > "Call" menu, unlike the PC version of Skype. > > Next you must type the description of the function you wish to > create a keyboard shortcut for as it appears, for example "Hang Up", > is a command which appears in the "Call" menu of Skype and I've > created a keyboard shortcut of ctrl-command-f10 for this. > > • > Open system Preferences and select "Keyboard and Mouse" > Next select the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab. > Find the table listing the keyboard Shortcuts, interact with it and > go to the bottom. > Expand the "Applications" part of the table". > Stop interacting with the table, VO-right and press the first button > you come to, this is the "Add" button. > Go to the "Applications" Menu and select "Skype" as the application > you wish to create shortcut keys for. > Vo-Right to the "Shortcut Description" area and Type the keyboard > shortcut name in the "Shortcut description" field, for example "Hang > Up" > Vo-Right again to the "Keyboard shortcut" area and press the keys > you wish to use for that shortcut, when done Press the "okay" button > near the bottom of the window. > > I'm not sure whether you have to or can have the application you're > defining keyboard shortcuts for active in the background, I usually > exit that application just to be sure that keyboard shortcuts will > be applied, I then exit "System Preferences" and run the > application, in this instance Skype. > > > On 06/09/2009, at 4:22 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> >> Hello Jonathan and Everyone, >> >> After reading Jonathan's reply, I tried to create a keyboard >> Shortcut for >> hanging up a Skype Call but was unsuccessful. As I have never >> attempted to >> create a keyboard application Shortcut before, I would appreciate >> any advice >> on how to accomplish this. >> >> The steps I took which did not work were as follows: >> >> 1. >> Keyboard Shortcuts under System Preferences. >> >> 2. >> Selected the Applications area of the Dialog Box. >> >> 3. >> From the Drop-down list I selected Skype.app. >> >> This is where I get confused. It would appear that I am to enter >> the exact >> menu command for the shortcut I wish to use. Where may I find a >> list of >> these Shortcuts. I tried typing in, "hangup" but this did not work. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan C. >> Cohn >> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 4:23 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Skype and Voice Over. >> >> >> 1. You do not have to script these keys. I was able to assign F9 and >> F10 to call and hang up. System preferences keyboard and mouse has a >> pane for keyboard shortcuts of menu items. I went down to the >> applications area at the bottom (This is in plain old Leopard) and >> added in skype application. >> >> In terms of recognizing on call vs off line. There are built-in >> "groups" for this, and I have given instructions on this list on how >> to enable the "on-line" predefined group. >> >> Jon >> >> On Sep 5, 2009, at 6:52 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> >>> no it doesn't >>> voiceover also has no hang up or answer hotkeys >>> but I guess we can script them. Nor does it tell us, who is online, >>> away in skype me mode, etc >>> Will >>> On 5 Sep 2009, at 11:40, Jesse Bollinger wrote: >>> Hello everyone, I find skype very easy to use with VO but I do have a question. When I am on Windows it causes my screen reader to shut off when I'm in a call. I haven't had a voice chat with anyone using the mac yet. Does VO turn off during the call? Thanks, Jesse > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: creating ringtones
Hi Donna, What I would do is use a program like amadeus Pro to select the segment of a track you want to use as a ringtone, copy it to a separate file, save that file in AAC format, and change the extension from M4A to M4R. I think Amadeus Pro might be able to save as a ringtone, so you wouldn't need to make the extension change. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Mac-cessibility News] FaceBook iPhone Application Updated With Accessibility Fixes
Hi, Since the lack of accessibility of the iPhone Facebook application has been discussed frequently in the past few days, I thought this news posting was completely relevant. The news updates in general are interesting and of high quality. Keep bringing them on, I say. It would be nice if they included the whole article, rather than a link to the rest of the story, though. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: (extedit) how to select text, start a new page
Hi Simon, Sorry, I got confused. It is Option and the left and right arrows that select words on my system. For selecting lines, Shift and Up and Down Arrow work. Command and Left and Right move to the beginning and end of the line, so adding Shift would selecgt to the beginning or end. Sorry again for the confusion. Best, Anna On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Anna, > > You are right that option + shift + down or up arrow will select a > paragraph. I have just checked and to much delight it does that. > > However, on my machine, option+shift + right or left arrow will select > a word at a time. Control+option+arrow keys do not select but are vo > navigation modes. > > On my machine again, command+shift+right arrow will select a line of > text. > > Best wishes, Simon > On 4 Sep 2009, at 03:53, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> My experience is that Command and Shift and the arrow keys select >> words, rather than Control-Shift-arrow keys. And depending on how a >> document is formatted, Option-Shift and Up or Down Arrow can select >> by >> paragraph. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> >> On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Anouk, >>> >>> Selecting text will take a bit of getting used to. >>> >>> If you want to select an entire line of text, position yourself at >>> the >>> beginning of the line by pressing control + left arrow. (Control + >>> right arrow will position you at the end of the line.) Then Hold >>> down >>> shift and press down arrow to select a line of text and then again >>> if >>> you want to select another line. >>> >>> To select a word at a time, hold down shift and option key while >>> using >>> the arrow keys to select or deselect text. To select individual >>> characters, hold down shift key and use your right and left arrows >>> to >>> select or deselect. You can check what you have selected by pressing >>> vo >>> +f6 key comination just to make sure. Then you copy with command+c >>> combination. >>> >>> I haven't found a reliable way selecting an entire paragraph yet. >>> >>> I am sorry but I don't know the answer to your second question. >>> >>> You are doing fantastically well. Take care, Simon >>> On 2 Sep 2009, at 09:20, anouk radix wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hello, can I just select text with cmd-shift down arrow and then i >>>> can >>>> copy it? I guess I will have to be careful to have my cursor at the >>>> beginning of a line? >>>> Also how can I start a new page? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Greetings, Anouk >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
selecting items works great!
Hi, There are things I find annoying about VoiceOVer at the moment, but there have been huge improvements as well. One great one I don't think anyone's mentioned yet is the excellent feedback when selecting multiple items, such as files or songs in iTunes. Before we were just told how many items were selected. Now, VO announces what each item is as it's selected. This is really helpful. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: can't control-click on misspelled words
Interesting, Robert. I get a beep if I try these commands, and nothing happens. Oh well. Best, Anna On Sep 3, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi, > > I am not at home so can't test it but there are new commands for > moving to the next and previous misspelled word. They are vo-e and > vo-shift-e > > Robert Carter > > ----- Original Message - > From: Woody Anna Dresner > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, Sep 3, 2009 10:36:37 > Subject: Re: can't control-click on misspelled words > >> >> >> >> Hi Justin, >> >> When I started using Leopard in June, I couldn't use the spell check >> procedure I described in my last message. However, the most recent OS >> update fixed it so I could use that procedure. Looks like Snow >> Leopard >> broke it again. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> >> > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VOHelpDesk 3.0 Beta Released
What is VO Help Desk? The website doesn't say. thanks, anna On Sep 2, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > Hey all. this is from Alex. he wanted me to foreward this on since > he's no longer on this list. > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Alex Jurgensen >> Date: September 2, 2009 12:45:38 PM EDT >> To: Brandon Misch >> Subject: VOHelpDesk 3.0 Beta Released >> >> Hi, >> Brandon: >> >> Forward this to whoever you like. >> >> The public beta of VO-HelpDesk 3.0 for Snow Leopard and Leopard/ >> Tiger is now released. >> >> Find it at: http://www.visionmail.uni.cc/downloads/iTHelps/ . >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> Alex Jurgensen, >> AWEBSIGHT Administrator, >> ICE Customer Care, >> VoiceOver Trainer, >> asquare...@visionmail.uni.cc >> >> Visit us on the web at: http://www.visionmail.uni.cc/ >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: itunes and past podcast downloading
Hi Yuma, Sometimes you have to interact with the table containing the song in order for VO-Shift-M to work. Also, be sure you're focused on the name of the episode you want to download. HTH, Anna On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > uhm.. I've gone to the title i want downloaded, and pressed vo shift m > but i get a pong tune, no context menu. When you say set focus on the > song, does it mean i have to place the mouse on it? My voice over > settings is so that the mouse cursor follows the vo cursor and vice > versa. Doesn't that abject the need to make further manipulations for > focusing on the item? > > Sorry, still quite new i'm realizing > > Best > > Yuma > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: stopping audio when trying to download files
Hi Esther, Thanks for your message. I tried your suggestions, with no luck. Since the Spacebar is starting playback over from the beginning, I think I am interacting with the right part of the page, it's just that something has changed regarding how to stop playback. Best, Anna On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Anna, > > I've not migrated to Snow Leopard yet, but here are two thoughts: you > might have to interact first on the page where the download started > playing. In Cara's original post about controlling the play of > streaming media in Leopard (early on) at: > > http://www.lioncourt.com/guides-tutorials/keyboard-control-of-streaming-content-in-safari/ > (Keyboard control of streaming media in Safari) > > you had to interact with the HTML area first, and even route your > mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5 before > commands like pressing space to play/pause took effect. > > Secondly, at least under Leopard there is a VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8) > option under the web pane to check or uncheck: > > Move VoiceOver cursor to a newly loaded web page checked check box > > You might need to play with a similar setting in Snow Leopard. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> With Leopard, if a file I wanted to download started playing, I could >> press Space to stop playback, then go to the address bar and press >> Option-Return to download the file instead. The downloading still >> works, but pressing Space doesn't stop playback. instead, it starts >> playback over at the beginning of the file. Does anyone know of a way >> to stop playback from the keyboard? >> >> Thanks, >> Anna >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail not Reading Automatically - Oh Rats
Hi Soren, I have tried high and medium verbosity. I have a Mac Mini. I don't think the issue has to do with where a message is in a thread. My experience is that either all the messages get read automatically or almost none of them do. Sometimes when they aren't read, I hear part of the word "Interacting" when I press VO-J. It's as though something is cutting off the speech. Best, Anna On Sep 3, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: > > Hi Scott and Anna. > > What is your default verbosity set to? If it's set to low, the text > area will also be set to low if you choose "default" from the popup > button, but if your default verbosity is set to medium, and all other > items in the table are set to default, your verbosity is set in the > same way like mine. > I don't think it has something to do with the VO settings. I've tried > to adjust some of the horizontal splitters in mail to see if that > changed anything, but it doesn't change anything here. I've also tried > to change the view settings, but that didn't changed anything as well. > If this issue only happens on the Imacs, it might have something to do > with the drivers. > I'll try to do some more bug-testing in this weekend. > > Best regards Søren. > On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > >> >> Unfortunately, Soren's method didn't work for me either. Mail is once >> again not reading correctly. I'll restart later and see if that makes >> any difference. >> >> Best, >> Anna >> >> On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Søren, thanks for the great idea and it did work, but briefly for >>> me. >>> Damned if I didn't switch away from Mail and come back to find that >>> it >>> was no longer working. Oh well, how lovely. :) >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: (extedit) how to select text, start a new page
Hi, My experience is that Command and Shift and the arrow keys select words, rather than Control-Shift-arrow keys. And depending on how a document is formatted, Option-Shift and Up or Down Arrow can select by paragraph. Best, Anna On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Dear Anouk, > > Selecting text will take a bit of getting used to. > > If you want to select an entire line of text, position yourself at the > beginning of the line by pressing control + left arrow. (Control + > right arrow will position you at the end of the line.) Then Hold down > shift and press down arrow to select a line of text and then again if > you want to select another line. > > To select a word at a time, hold down shift and option key while using > the arrow keys to select or deselect text. To select individual > characters, hold down shift key and use your right and left arrows to > select or deselect. You can check what you have selected by pressing > vo > +f6 key comination just to make sure. Then you copy with command+c > combination. > > I haven't found a reliable way selecting an entire paragraph yet. > > I am sorry but I don't know the answer to your second question. > > You are doing fantastically well. Take care, Simon > On 2 Sep 2009, at 09:20, anouk radix wrote: > >> >> Hello, can I just select text with cmd-shift down arrow and then i >> can >> copy it? I guess I will have to be careful to have my cursor at the >> beginning of a line? >> Also how can I start a new page? >> Thanks, >> Greetings, Anouk >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problems reading a document in textedit
Hi, When I was still using Leopard, Preview crashed completely when I tried to read one PDF document that was around 150 pages. I was able to convert it to text using PDF2TXT, a Windows program, so I don't think there was anything wrong with the PDF. I tried opening it in Preview twice and it crashed both times, so I thought the file was probably too long for Preview to handle. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: itunes and past podcast downloading
Hi Yuma, To download an individual podcast episode, focus on it and press the context menu key, VO-Shift-M. One of the options is what you want. You can also focus on the podcast's name, press the context menu command, and choose Download episode from the bottom of the menu to download all the episodes of the podcast. HTH, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail not Reading Automatically - Oh Rats
Unfortunately, Soren's method didn't work for me either. Mail is once again not reading correctly. I'll restart later and see if that makes any difference. Best, Anna On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Søren, thanks for the great idea and it did work, but briefly for me. > Damned if I didn't switch away from Mail and come back to find that it > was no longer working. Oh well, how lovely. :) > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: can't control-click on misspelled words
Hi Justin, When I started using Leopard in June, I couldn't use the spell check procedure I described in my last message. However, the most recent OS update fixed it so I could use that procedure. Looks like Snow Leopard broke it again. Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
can't control-click on misspelled words
Hi, Normally I check spelling in e-mail by pressing Command-Semicolon, then pressing VO-Shift-M to access the spelling options. This doesn't appear to work in Snow Leopard. The misspelled word is highlighted as expected, but when I press VO-Shift-M, a different word gets highlighted instead. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ignore next keystroke seems broken
Hi, I just went to my Windows XP desktop in Fusion. I typed VO-Tab to have VoiceOver ignore the next keystroke, and then typed VO-X, my shortcut to open Firefox. Nothing happened. This happened consistently. The only way I could get it to work was if I kept holding down the VO keys after pressing Tab and pressed X while they were still held down. Then Control-Alt-X was passed to Fusion. Has anyone else experienced this? Best, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
stopping audio when trying to download files
Hi, With Leopard, if a file I wanted to download started playing, I could press Space to stop playback, then go to the address bar and press Option-Return to download the file instead. The downloading still works, but pressing Space doesn't stop playback. instead, it starts playback over at the beginning of the file. Does anyone know of a way to stop playback from the keyboard? Thanks, Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
