Wireless charger that would accommodate two iphones and an apple watch?

['Andrew' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I am looking for a wireless charger which would charge two iphones and an apple 
watch at the same time.  Has anybody come across such a wireless charger?

Many thanks

Andrew

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iPhone Battery Capacities Compared: all iPhones Battery Life in mAH and WH, Macworld

[M. Taylor]

Macworld
Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:45 PM

iPhone battery capacities compared: all iPhones battery life in mAh and Wh
 
Here we list and explain the battery capacities of every iPhone from 2007’s
original iPhone to the very latest iPhone 14 series.
Measuring iPhone battery life in straight hours of real-world usage (as
Apple likes to do) is not an accurate metric for comparison purposes as so
many use and environmental factors play a part.
We can, however, rely on straight technical specifications to tell us the
battery capacities of each iPhone.

Apple is notoriously secretive about these battery specifications, mainly
because smartphones from rivals such as Samsung boast much larger battery
capacities.
These are measured in either Milliamp Hours (mAh) or Watt Hours (Wh).
Milliamp hours are a measure of electrical charge, while a watt-hour is
equal to one watt of energy consumed for one hour of time. And it is energy
consumed that matters when we’re measuring actual battery life.

Wh is a more accurate and consistent way to compare the total amount of
energy that similar types of batteries can store.
And it’s all about the battery voltage, which mAh ignores, which determines
the wattage (power) of a battery.

If the mAh is the same, the higher the voltage, the greater the actual
stored power.
Volts (V) are a measure of electric pressure. Amps (A) are a measure of
current. Multiply V x A and you get Watts (W) that are a measure of power.
So V × A = W.
You can convert watt hours (Wh) to milliamp hours (mAh) using this formula:
(Wh x 1,000) divided by V = mAh.

The lithium batteries that power most portable electronics have a voltage of
about 3.6V, but some external battery packs (such as Apple’s 7.62V MagSafe
Battery Pack) boast a higher voltage, which means they actually carry more
power than their mAh implies.
 
Here we list the battery capacity of every iPhone ever released in both mAh
and Wh.
iPhone battery capacities
iPhone:   1400mAh5.18Wh
iPhone 3G: 1150mAh4.25Wh
iPhone 3GS:   1200mAh4.44Wh
iPhone 4:1420mAh5.3Wh
iPhone 4s1432mAh5.3Wh
iPhone 5:1440mAh5.45Wh
iPhone 5c   1510mAh5.73Wh
iPhone 5s:   1560mAh5.92Wh
iPhone 6:1810mAh   6.9Wh
iPhone 6s:   1715mAh   6.91Wh
iPhone 6s Plus:  2750mAh10.45Wh
iPhone SE:  1624mAh   6.21Wh
iPhone 7:1960mAh   7.45Wh
iPhone 7 Plus:2900mAh11.1Wh
iPhone 8:1821mAh6.96Wh
iPhone 8 Plus:2961mAh10.28Wh
iPhone X:   2716mAh10.35Wh
iPhone XR:2942mAh11.16Wh
iPhone XS: 2658mAh10.13Wh
iPhone XS Max:3174mAh12.08Wh 
iPhone 11:   3110mAh11.91Wh
iPhone 11 Pro:   3046mAh11.67Wh
iPhone 11 Pro Max:  3969mAh15.04Wh
iPhone 12 mini: 2227mAh8.57Wh
iPhone 12:  2815mAh10.78Wh
iPhone 12 Pro:   2815mAh10.78Wh
iPhone 12 Pro Max:  3687mAh14.13Wh
iPhone 13 mini: 2438mAh9.34Wh
iPhone 13:  3240mAh12.41Wh
iPhone 13 Pro:   3095mAh11.97Wh
iPhone 13 Pro Max:  4352mAh16.75Wh
iPhone 14:  3279mAh12.68Wh
iPhone 14 Plus: 4325mAh16.68Wh
iPhone 14 Pro:   3200mAh12.38Wh
iPhone 14 Pro Max:  4323mAh16.68Wh
MagSafe Battery Pack:1460mAh11.13Wh

Original Article at:
https://www.macworld.com/article/678413/iphone-battery-capacities-compared-a
ll-iphones-battery-life-in-mah-and-wh.html



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Re: Upcoming Iphones

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 14/8/22 15:18, Brad Snyder wrote:

Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.


I agree. I am very satisfied with my iPhone XS, so I'll probably wait at 
least another year or two before upgrading.


I'm sure 5G would be better, and it's available where I live, but I'm 
not outside using mobile data enough to notice.


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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Pete De Vasto]

Lorie,
Yes the SE 2022 does have a home button. When they first came out in May, I 
jumped on getting one, and discovered Apple had a trade-in program going for my 
SE 2020 that took quite a few bucks off the final price. The program ran out 
out on May 31. I’m glad I made the move. Performance is much better, and 
battery life seems to be OK for me as well. From what I read, it doesn’t have 
LIDAR, but that didn’t concern me. If what they’re saying about the home button 
going completely away starting next year, I’d say get the 2022 SE now as it 
probably will get you maybe five or more years?
Pete De Vasto

> On Aug 14, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> does the iPhone se 22 have a home button? I've got the se 20 and of course it 
> does.
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Of course not.  Touch ID has been relegated to the  bottom of the line 
>> iPhoneSE.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 16:31, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> From what I have read, there will not be Touch ID on the new phones.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. I 
>>> suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users 
>>> say about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>>>> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
>>>> iPhone.
>>>> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
>>>> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current 
>>>> model iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not 
>>>> read anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being 
>>>> released next month.
>>>> If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for 
>>>> an iPhone 13 model?
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Personally I don’t have issues with faceId but I can actually understand why 
people has.
/A

> 15 aug. 2022 kl. 00:19 skrev Lorie McCloud :
> 
> does the iPhone se 22 have a home button? I've got the se 20 and of course it 
> does.
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Of course not.  Touch ID has been relegated to the  bottom of the line 
>> iPhoneSE.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 16:31, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> From what I have read, there will not be Touch ID on the new phones.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. I 
>>> suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users 
>>> say about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>>>> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
>>>> iPhone.
>>>> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
>>>> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current 
>>>> model iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not 
>>>> read anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being 
>>>> released next month.
>>>> If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for 
>>>> an iPhone 13 model?
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I would wait until the newer models are released.
I am still on my 12 pro and I think I won’t upgrade.
Unless it has something I really want which I doubt it has.
Baby better battery time.
That’s just me.
I still pay for my new Mac mini so I won’t have the money to buy one.
/A

> 14 aug. 2022 kl. 21:18 skrev Brad Snyder :
> 
> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
> iPhone.
> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
> iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
> anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released 
> next month.
> 
>  If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for an 
> iPhone 13 model?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Lorie McCloud]

does the iPhone se 22 have a home button? I've got the se 20 and of course it 
does.

> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:35 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Of course not.  Touch ID has been relegated to the  bottom of the line 
> iPhoneSE.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 14, 2022, at 16:31, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> From what I have read, there will not be Touch ID on the new phones.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. I 
>> suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users 
>> say about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>>> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
>>> iPhone.
>>> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
>>> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current 
>>> model iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
>>> - Brad -
>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
>>> anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released 
>>> next month.
>>> If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for an 
>>> iPhone 13 model?
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Brad Snyder]

Of course not.  Touch ID has been relegated to the  bottom of the line iPhoneSE.

- Brad -



On Aug 14, 2022, at 16:31, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

>From what I have read, there will not be Touch ID on the new phones.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. I 
> suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users say 
> about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
>> iPhone.
>> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
>> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
>> iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
>> - Brad -
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
>> anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released 
>> next month.
>>  If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for an 
>> iPhone 13 model?
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Brad Snyder]

If you're still clinging to the Home Button, then just get the iPhone SE, and 
don’t worry about either the iPhone 13 or 14.


- Brad -



On Aug 14, 2022, at 16:26, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. I 
suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users say 
about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.

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On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
> iPhone.
> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
> iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
> - Brad -
> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
> anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released 
> next month.
>   If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for an 
> iPhone 13 model?
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Jack Zimmerman]

Well since Android braille has improved so much I'm going to be trying that 
again. Tried it with a kendle and a chromebook was NOT at all imrressed with 
either but I do understand things have got much better since then. Tired of 
IOS. Braille. It's fine  for reading but editing is a true CHORE!! 

Jack and BECKY  :-)  
sent  from  our  iPhingers 

> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>    Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. 
> I suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users 
> say about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
>> iPhone.
>> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
>> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
>> iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
>> - Brad -
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
>> anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released 
>> next month.
>>   If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for 
>> an iPhone 13 model?
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

>From what I have read, there will not be Touch ID on the new phones.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 14, 2022, at 4:26 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by surprise. I 
> suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and read what users say 
> about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's 
>> iPhone.
>> Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
>> iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
>> iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.
>> - Brad -
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>    Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
>> anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released 
>> next month.
>>   If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for 
>> an iPhone 13 model?
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Upcoming Iphones

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Have had my 8+ just over 4 years and don't want to be caught by 
surprise. I suppose though I can wait until iPhone 14 is released and 
read what users say about it. I like Touch ID so I won't rush things.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 8/14/2022 12:18 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's iPhone.
Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month.

- Brad -

On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released next 
month.

   If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for an 
iPhone 13 model?

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com



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Re: Upcoming Iphones

[Brad Snyder]

The iPhone 13 is a nice iPhone, been in a month, it will be last year's iPhone.
Unless your current iPhone dies on you, I would never buy a current model 
iPhone during the month of August. If for no other reason, the current model 
iPhone 13 will be available at a reduced price next month. 

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On Aug 14, 2022, at 14:12, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not read 
anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being released next 
month.

  If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go for an 
iPhone 13 model?

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Upcoming Iphones

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Currently I have the 8+ which works fine. Just curious. I have not 
read anything as of yet about the leaks for this year's iPhones being 
released next month.


   If I was to upgrade, would I want to hold out until next month or go 
for an iPhone 13 model?


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Re: Astronomy app for blind people with iPhones

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Mike,

I saved your email for a time when I had more bandwidth, so here it goes.

The test flight link is below. I've also responded to an email on 
macvisionaries with some notes on the new release.

https://testflight.apple.com/join/ZsGh6uYD 



Have a great rest of week,

Yuma 


> On 9 Sep 2020, at 3:23 am, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> A few years ago, a blind app developer produced an app that made celestial 
> objects audible.  I believe, though I am not sure, that the app was called 
> Astrios.  If the app is available, for purchase or otherwise, can someone 
> tell me how I might acquire it.  When I had the opportunity to test the app, 
> I was unable to give it the attention it deserved, and the time in which I 
> was authorized to use it expired.
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> 
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Astronomy app for blind people with iPhones

[Michael Busboom]

Hello.

A few years ago, a blind app developer produced an app that made celestial 
objects audible.  I believe, though I am not sure, that the app was called 
Astrios.  If the app is available, for purchase or otherwise, can someone tell 
me how I might acquire it.  When I had the opportunity to test the app, I was 
unable to give it the attention it deserved, and the time in which I was 
authorized to use it expired.

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Re: iPhones that don't have the earbud jack

[Brad Snyder]

The one I have, I purchased directly from Apple.
It is called a Belkin Lightening Audio + charge Rockstar.

They also make one with a 3.5 mm headphone jack called the Belkin 3.5 mm Audio 
+ charge Rockstar.

I’m sure Amazon has something similar, and priced less, though Belkin products 
are first class.

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On Jan 16, 2020, at 01:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

if you have an iPhone 7 or 8 (or later probably) and your charger has a usb on 
it, what's the name of the little dongle that has 2 of those so you can charge 
it at the same time you have it plugged into something else? I want to look it 
up on Amazon. what do I look for?

thanks.
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iPhones that don't have the earbud jack

[Lorie McCloud]

if you have an iPhone 7 or 8 (or later probably) and your charger has a usb on 
it, what's the name of the little dongle that has 2 of those so you can charge 
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RE: Iphones with home buttons?

[Simon A Fogarty]

All iPhones up to the iPhone 6s have a physical button,

The iPhone 7 8 and 8+ have a button shape carved in to the phone screen and 
then use haptic feedback for the indication for the buttons being pressed etc.

The iPhone x ranges use face id .

So yes your thought of the iPhone 8 etc do have a button 

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Behalf Of Erik Burggraaf
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2019 5:19 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Iphones with home buttons?

Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone
8 does or not.

Thanks,

Erik


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RE: 2 IPhones with sameApple ID?

[Simon A Fogarty]

You are very much able to use the same apple ID on both devices.

This means however that what you purchase on one device will show up 
automatically on the other device

That is apps music movies etc.

The other thing you could do is use family sharing  which gives one account 
control over other accounts as part of the family group,

Probably not what you and your wife need but is an option.



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Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2019 12:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 2 IPhones with sameApple ID?

I am fairly new to IPhones so this may be a dumb question. I have set up my 
IPhone with an Apple ID. My wife is going to use my older IPhone , can we use 
the same Apple ID for both phones, or does she need to setup  her own?
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Re: 2 IPhones with sameApple ID?

[Petrus Tuerlings]

You can do either, you can share the same Apple ID. Or if she sets up her own 
Apple ID you can turn on family sharing. Then you can share most of the apps 
that you purchased if they allow family sharing and you can share your music 
collection or movies that you purchased through the iTunes store.

Sent from Petrus's iPhone

> On 12/10/2019, at 12:55, Loy Green  wrote:
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> 
> I am fairly new to IPhones so this may be a dumb question. I have set up my 
> IPhone with an Apple ID. My wife is going to use my older IPhone , can we use 
> the same Apple ID for both phones, or does she need to setup  her own?
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2 IPhones with sameApple ID?

[Loy Green]

I am fairly new to IPhones so this may be a dumb question. I have set up my 
IPhone with an Apple ID. My wife is going to use my older IPhone , can we use 
the same Apple ID for both phones, or does she need to setup  her own?


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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

[Lorie McCloud]

yes. the iPhone 8 does have a home button. I have one.

> On Oct 11, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
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> Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
> physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 8 
> does or not.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik
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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

[Dave Carlson]

Erik,
iPhone 8 has an area on the screen  that has the feel of a button, but it is 
not a physical, mechanical button like on the iPhone 6 or earlier. It gives 
haptic feelings to suggest pressing a physical button.

Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician




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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Thanks for that.

Best,

Erik


On October 11, 2019 12:20:34 p.m. Jeff Berwick  
wrote:


Hi there,

I have the iPhone 8 and it has a physical home button.

Jeff



On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 
8 does or not.


Thanks,

Erik


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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

The iPhone 8 and earlier all have Home buttons.  The iPhone X and newer do not.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 10:18, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:

Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 8 
does or not.

Thanks,

Erik


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Re: Iphones with home buttons?

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

I have the iPhone 8 and it has a physical home button.

Jeff


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Iphones with home buttons?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi all, could some one please refresh my memory on which IPhones have the 
physical home button?  In particular, I can't rremember whether the IPhone 
8 does or not.


Thanks,

Erik


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Re: Other places to purchase new IPhones

[Dave Carlson]

Why not just do it via the Apple store on the web?

Dave Carlson
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Other places to purchase new IPhones

[Loy Green]

There are no Apple stores near me, can you purchase at other stores like Best 
Buy and trade an older phone, ?

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RE: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

[Tom Moore]

The service from my experience has been reliable on my end here.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 11:42 AM
To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

How often do you get dropped calls/low coverage with them?  A part of me is 
considering leaving Sprint for this service, sense the amount they’re charging 
me for the same service is outrageous.  However, I’ve known so many people who 
have switched to these smaller companies, and the service was the pits, so 
would love to hear more.

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I don't know about this particular Carrier, but I have Boom.us for my backup 
> phone and I pay $25 per month for unlimited talk and text with 1 gig data.
> They also offer 2 gigs for $29 total per line.
> You do have to bring your own phone though I believe.
> This service also runs through Verizon and I have had good luck with it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:15 PM
> To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
> unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac
> 
> Has anyone actually used this service?  It pops up on my news feed on 
> facebook all the time, and I’ve read so many mixed reviews on the subject 
> that I unfortunately don’t know what to believe.
>  I like how responsive they are at getting back to you when you make a 
> comment, and it’s not the same generic auto respond type post where the 
> company just tags your name to the post like I’ve seen with so many others’.
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 12:46 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Really?! 
>> 40 per month for unlimited text calling and data?!
>> 
>> Hells teeth our providers are way behind the scenes.
>> 
>> Mind you only 4.6 million population might be a big issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2019 2:37 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
>> unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac
>> 
>> 9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' 
>> startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month
>> 
>> Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers 
>> unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible 
>> required that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering 
>> with Apple and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
>> 
>> As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using 
>> financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per 
>> month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
>> You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per 
>> month, and more:
>> .iPhone XS - $41 per month
>> .iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
>> .iPhone XR - $31 per month
>> .iPhone X - $37 per month
>> .iPhone 8 - $24 per month
>> .iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
>> .iPhone 7 - $18 per month
>> .iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
>> .iPhone 6S - $12 per month
>> .iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
>> .iPhone SE - $10 per month
>> In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and 
>> hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds 
>> are limited to 5 Mbps.
>> The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is 
>> managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs 
>> through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an 
>> "independent startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such 
>> low pricing because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
>> The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit 
>> or restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind 
>> of pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business 
>> model" - it has lower costs b

RE: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

[Tom Moore]

Hi,
I don't know about this particular Carrier, but I have Boom.us for my backup 
phone and I pay $25 per month for unlimited talk and text with 1 gig data.
They also offer 2 gigs for $29 total per line.
You do have to bring your own phone though I believe.
This service also runs through Verizon and I have had good luck with it.

Thanks,
Tom

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:15 PM
To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

Has anyone actually used this service?  It pops up on my news feed on facebook 
all the time, and I’ve read so many mixed reviews on the subject that I 
unfortunately don’t know what to believe.
  I like how responsive they are at getting back to you when you make a 
comment, and it’s not the same generic auto respond type post where the company 
just tags your name to the post like I’ve seen with so many others’.

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 12:46 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Really?! 
> 40 per month for unlimited text calling and data?!
> 
> Hells teeth our providers are way behind the scenes.
> 
> Mind you only 4.6 million population might be a big issue.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2019 2:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
> unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac
> 
> 9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' 
> startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month
> 
> Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers 
> unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible required 
> that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering with Apple 
> and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
> 
> As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using 
> financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per 
> month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
> You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per 
> month, and more:
> . iPhone XS - $41 per month
> . iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
> . iPhone XR - $31 per month
> . iPhone X - $37 per month
> . iPhone 8 - $24 per month
> . iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
> . iPhone 7 - $18 per month
> . iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
> . iPhone 6S - $12 per month
> . iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
> . iPhone SE - $10 per month
> In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and 
> hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds are 
> limited to 5 Mbps.
> The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is 
> managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs 
> through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an "independent 
> startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such low pricing 
> because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
> The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit 
> or restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind 
> of pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business 
> model" - it has lower costs because it's not paying for physical 
> infrastructure like stores.
> Further, Visible has launched Visible Protect, which starts at $10 per month 
> and provides access to AppleCare. This is run through Assurant, but 
> availability varies by state as of now. Visible certainly makes an enticing 
> pitch in comparison to the more expensive "big four" carriers. Find out more 
> on its website right here.
> 
> iPhone
> Introduced in 2007, iPhone is Apple's flagship iOS device and easily its most 
> popular product around the world.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/24/visible-iphone-sales/
> 
> 
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Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

[Jessica Moss]

How often do you get dropped calls/low coverage with them?  A part of me is 
considering leaving Sprint for this service, sense the amount they’re charging 
me for the same service is outrageous.  However, I’ve known so many people who 
have switched to these smaller companies, and the service was the pits, so 
would love to hear more.

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I don't know about this particular Carrier, but I have Boom.us for my backup 
> phone and I pay $25 per month for unlimited talk and text with 1 gig data.
> They also offer 2 gigs for $29 total per line.
> You do have to bring your own phone though I believe.
> This service also runs through Verizon and I have had good luck with it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Jessica Moss
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 9:15 PM
> To: 'Jim Fettgather' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
> unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac
> 
> Has anyone actually used this service?  It pops up on my news feed on 
> facebook all the time, and I’ve read so many mixed reviews on the subject 
> that I unfortunately don’t know what to believe.
>  I like how responsive they are at getting back to you when you make a 
> comment, and it’s not the same generic auto respond type post where the 
> company just tags your name to the post like I’ve seen with so many others’.
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 12:46 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Really?! 
>> 40 per month for unlimited text calling and data?!
>> 
>> Hells teeth our providers are way behind the scenes.
>> 
>> Mind you only 4.6 million population might be a big issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2019 2:37 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
>> unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac
>> 
>> 9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' 
>> startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month
>> 
>> Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers 
>> unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible 
>> required that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering 
>> with Apple and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
>> 
>> As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using 
>> financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per 
>> month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
>> You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per 
>> month, and more:
>> .iPhone XS - $41 per month
>> .iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
>> .iPhone XR - $31 per month
>> .iPhone X - $37 per month
>> .iPhone 8 - $24 per month
>> .iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
>> .iPhone 7 - $18 per month
>> .iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
>> .iPhone 6S - $12 per month
>> .iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
>> .iPhone SE - $10 per month
>> In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and 
>> hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds 
>> are limited to 5 Mbps.
>> The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is 
>> managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs 
>> through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an 
>> "independent startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such 
>> low pricing because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
>> The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit 
>> or restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind 
>> of pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business 
>> model" - it has lower costs because it's not paying for physical 
>> infrastructure like stores.
>> Further, Visible has launched Visible Protect, which starts at $10 per month 
>> and provides access to AppleCare. This is run through Assurant, but 
>> availability varies by state as of now. Visible certainly makes an enticing 
>> pitch in comparison to the more expensive "big four" c

Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

[Jessica Moss]

Has anyone actually used this service?  It pops up on my news feed on facebook 
all the time, and I’ve read so many mixed reviews on the subject that I 
unfortunately don’t know what to believe.
  I like how responsive they are at getting back to you when you make a 
comment, and it’s not the same generic auto respond type post where the company 
just tags your name to the post like I’ve seen with so many others’.

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 12:46 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Really?! 
> 40 per month for unlimited text calling and data?!
> 
> Hells teeth our providers are way behind the scenes.
> 
> Mind you only 4.6 million population might be a big issue.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2019 2:37 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
> unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac
> 
> 9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' 
> startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month
> 
> Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers 
> unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible required 
> that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering with Apple 
> and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
> 
> As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using 
> financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per 
> month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
> You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per 
> month, and more:
> . iPhone XS - $41 per month
> . iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
> . iPhone XR - $31 per month
> . iPhone X - $37 per month
> . iPhone 8 - $24 per month
> . iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
> . iPhone 7 - $18 per month
> . iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
> . iPhone 6S - $12 per month
> . iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
> . iPhone SE - $10 per month
> In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and 
> hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds are 
> limited to 5 Mbps.
> The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is 
> managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs 
> through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an "independent 
> startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such low pricing 
> because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
> The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit 
> or restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind 
> of pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business 
> model" - it has lower costs because it's not paying for physical 
> infrastructure like stores.
> Further, Visible has launched Visible Protect, which starts at $10 per month 
> and provides access to AppleCare. This is run through Assurant, but 
> availability varies by state as of now. Visible certainly makes an enticing 
> pitch in comparison to the more expensive "big four" carriers. Find out more 
> on its website right here.
> 
> iPhone
> Introduced in 2007, iPhone is Apple's flagship iOS device and easily its most 
> popular product around the world.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/24/visible-iphone-sales/
> 
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RE: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

Really?! 
40 per month for unlimited text calling and data?!

Hells teeth our providers are way behind the scenes.

Mind you only 4.6 million population might be a big issue.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2019 2:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers 
unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' 
startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month
 
Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers 
unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible required 
that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering with Apple 
and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
 
As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using 
financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per 
month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per 
month, and more:
.   iPhone XS - $41 per month
.   iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
.   iPhone XR - $31 per month
.   iPhone X - $37 per month
.   iPhone 8 - $24 per month
.   iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
.   iPhone 7 - $18 per month
.   iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
.   iPhone 6S - $12 per month
.   iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
.   iPhone SE - $10 per month
In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and 
hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds are 
limited to 5 Mbps.
The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is 
managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs 
through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an "independent 
startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such low pricing 
because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit or 
restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind of 
pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business model" - 
it has lower costs because it's not paying for physical infrastructure like 
stores.
Further, Visible has launched Visible Protect, which starts at $10 per month 
and provides access to AppleCare. This is run through Assurant, but 
availability varies by state as of now. Visible certainly makes an enticing 
pitch in comparison to the more expensive "big four" carriers. Find out more on 
its website right here.

iPhone
Introduced in 2007, iPhone is Apple's flagship iOS device and easily its most 
popular product around the world.
 
Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/24/visible-iphone-sales/


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Re: Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

[Mary Otten]

Interesting. I remember hearing about this service. I don’t like that speed or 
should I say lack of speed. And I wonder if the app is accessible. Hope so. 
We’re going to stick with our T-Mobile where we get two lines of  unlimited 
data and much faster speeds were $70 a month. But this could be good if you’re 
going traveling where are your main carrier doesn’t have very good coverage and 
you need to do something about that.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2019, at 5:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM
> Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data
> for $40/month
> 
> Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers
> unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible
> required that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering
> with Apple and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
> 
> As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using
> financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per
> month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
> You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per
> month, and more:
> .iPhone XS - $41 per month
> .iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
> .iPhone XR - $31 per month
> .iPhone X - $37 per month
> .iPhone 8 - $24 per month
> .iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
> .iPhone 7 - $18 per month
> .iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
> .iPhone 6S - $12 per month
> .iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
> .iPhone SE - $10 per month
> In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and
> hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds
> are limited to 5 Mbps.
> The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is
> managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs
> through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an
> "independent startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such
> low pricing because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
> The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit
> or restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind
> of pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business
> model" - it has lower costs because it's not paying for physical
> infrastructure like stores.
> Further, Visible has launched Visible Protect, which starts at $10 per month
> and provides access to AppleCare. This is run through Assurant, but
> availability varies by state as of now. Visible certainly makes an enticing
> pitch in comparison to the more expensive "big four" carriers. Find out more
> on its website right here.
> 
> iPhone
> Introduced in 2007, iPhone is Apple's flagship iOS device and easily its
> most popular product around the world.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/24/visible-iphone-sales/
> 
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Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data for $40/month, 9 to 5, Mac

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9to5Mac - Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 6:47 AM
Verizon's prepaid 'Visible' startup now sells iPhones, offers unlimited data
for $40/month
 
Last year, Verizon quietly launched a new startup called Visible that offers
unlimited talk, text, and data for $40 per month. At launch, Visible
required that you bring your own unlocked iPhone, but now it is partnering
with Apple and Affirm to sell iPhones itself.
 
As reported by TechCrunch, you can now buy an iPhone through Visible using
financing company Affirm with 0 percent APR. The iPhone XS starts at $41 per
month through Visible, whereas the iPhone XS Max starts at $45 per month.
You can also get the iPhone XR for $31 per month, the iPhone X for $37 per
month, and more:
.   iPhone XS - $41 per month
.   iPhone XS Max - $45 per month
.   iPhone XR - $31 per month
.   iPhone X - $37 per month
.   iPhone 8 - $24 per month
.   iPhone 8 Plus - $29 per month
.   iPhone 7 - $18 per month
.   iPhone 7 Plus - $23 per month
.   iPhone 6S - $12 per month
.   iPhone 6S Plus - $16 per month
.   iPhone SE - $10 per month
In terms of network pricing, Visible offers unlimited text, voice, data, and
hotspot usage for $40 per month. The biggest drawback is that data speeds
are limited to 5 Mbps.
The carrier touts that there are no fees or contracts, and everything is
managed through its iOS app. Visible service is backed by Verizon and runs
through Verizon's 4G LTE network, but the company operates as an
"independent startup." Visible told TechCrunch that it is able to offer such
low pricing because it doesn't have any sort of physical overhead:
The company says there are no hidden fees (like an activation, SIM card kit
or restocking fee) either. When asked how Visible is able to offer this kind
of pricing, a spokesperson pointed to the company's "all digital business
model" - it has lower costs because it's not paying for physical
infrastructure like stores.
Further, Visible has launched Visible Protect, which starts at $10 per month
and provides access to AppleCare. This is run through Assurant, but
availability varies by state as of now. Visible certainly makes an enticing
pitch in comparison to the more expensive "big four" carriers. Find out more
on its website right here.

iPhone
Introduced in 2007, iPhone is Apple's flagship iOS device and easily its
most popular product around the world.
 
Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/24/visible-iphone-sales/


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Apple's New iPhones Have An Unfixable Problem

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/10/14/apple-new-iphones-iphone-xs-max-battery-life-price-cost-upgrade-xr/

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E-SIM and dual SIM on Apple's 2018 iPhones: Everything you need to know, CNET

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Dual-SIM and eSIM on Apple's 2018 iPhones: Everything you need to know
Apple's new Dual SIM Dual Standby feature is a game-changer -- but there's a
catch.
By Justin Jaffe, September 27, 2018 10:52 AM PDT
FAQ 
When Apple announced the new iPhone XS, XS Max, and XR on Sept. 12, one
particular feature captured the imagination of international travelers and
multiple phone-owners alike: the dual SIM.

If the processor is your phone's brain, the SIM, or subscriber identity
module, is its soul -- a tiny, little chip that stores your phone number and
connects you to a cellular network. Essentially, it's what makes your phone
your phone. 
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If you've ever wanted two phone lines on one device, Apple's new Dual SIM
Dual Standby technology could be a life-changer. It will make it much more
practical to have two phone numbers on one phone -- one for business,
another for personal use. And it will make it considerably easier and less
expensive to use your own phone when traveling abroad.

iPhones have always had one "plastic" SIM card -- until now.
CNET 
Though the beta release of iOS 12.1 includes a crucial component of the
technology -- eSIM remote provisioning -- Apple won't deliver it to the
general population until later this fall. Of course, it won't be the primary
factor for the vast majority of people shelling out for a new iPhone ($999
at Sprint) in 2018, but the debut of the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max and iPhone
XR marks a new era of dual-SIM phones going mainstream.
We don't yet know all of the details about how, when and where Apple's
dual-SIM feature will work. But based on our current understanding of how
the technology will be implemented, there are some limitations. For now,
here's what we know about Apple's dual-SIM -- and what it means for the
three new iPhones.
Note: The information presented below is everything as we know it now. If
you're buying an iPhone XS, XS Max or XR to take advantage of dual-SIM/eSIM
technology, make sure you buy an unlocked phone (see below) check with your
provider(s) first before committing to a purchase.
What does Apple's dual-SIM announcement mean?
The 2018 iPhones will let you have have two different phone numbers on the
same phone. You'll be able to make and receive calls and send and receive
texts on either line.
Why would I want a dual-SIM phone?
There are two major benefits. You can have two different phone lines -- say,
one for business and another for personal use -- without the burden of
carrying two phones. And when traveling internationally, dual SIM makes it
easier to add a local plan to your phone to avoid costly international
roaming and data charges.
So, the iPhones will have both an eSIM and a plastic SIM?
Yes. The new iPhones will have a traditional plastic SIM, the familiar
hardware-based SIM chip that identifies you to your carrier network, and an
eSIM, the newer software-based equivalent. 
And here's the big thing: the eSIM can accommodate multiple phone numbers --
which you can add, delete and configure right from your iPhone's settings.
In contrast, a plastic SIM needs to be physically removed and substituted. 
In theory, once eSIM technology is widely supported by carriers in the US
and internationally, Apple could phase out the plastic SIM entirely. For
now, in giving the 2018 iPhones both a plastic SIM and eSIM, Apple is
covering all of the bases. 

What is Dual SIM Dual Standby?
Apple's take of dual SIM is called Dual SIM Dual Standby. It means that the
new iPhones can manage two phone lines simultaneously -- calls coming in to
either line will ring your phone, and you'll be able to easily make calls
and send texts from either line without reconfiguring settings or swapping
out SIM cards. 
Note that you won't be able to send and receive data on both lines
simultaneously, however; if one line is on a call, incoming calls to the
other number will go to voicemail.
How is eSIM different from Apple SIM?
Originally known as Apple SIM, the first version of Apple's software-based
SIM showed up on the LTE-enabled iPad and Apple Watch Series 3. Analysts
believe that the fundamental technology is the same, but that iOS 12 may
introduce improvements to the user interface. 
Can I add lines from different carriers?
Yes. Apple says that you can add lines from two different carriers -- if
your iPhone is unlocked. And this is the major catch. If your phone is not
unlocked, both plans must be from the same carrier. And, if a CDMA carrier
-- such as Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, Boost and Virgin -- provides your
first SIM, your second SIM won't support CDMA.
Can I use eSIM on a locked iPhone?
When you buy an iPhone directly from Apple, online or at an Apple store,
it's unlocked -- meaning that it can be configured for and activated on any
carrier's network (e.g. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint). A Geniu

Re: Easy way to bypass passcode lock screens on iPhones, iPads running iOS 12

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I tried it on my 6S as well and was unable to duplicate the vulnerability.  
Maybe if you have raise to wake enabled, it might do something, but I'm still 
not convinced.  It very well might be that I'm just not doing things exactly 
correct, but I couldn't make it work.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 18, 2018, at 17:25, Brianna S  wrote:

Looks like scare tactics.
It doesn't work on my iPhone 8 Plus.
So much for their privacy holes...


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:10 PM, dan d.  wrote:
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> https://www.computerworld.com/article/3041302/security/4-new-ways-to-bypass-passcode-lock-screen-on-iphones-ipads-running-ios-9.html#tk.rss_news
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Re: Easy way to bypass passcode lock screens on iPhones, iPads running iOS 12

[Brianna S]

Looks like scare tactics.
It doesn't work on my iPhone 8 Plus.
So much for their privacy holes...


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:10 PM, dan d.  wrote:
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Easy way to bypass passcode lock screens on iPhones, iPads running iOS 12

[dan d.]

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3041302/security/4-new-ways-to-bypass-passcode-lock-screen-on-iphones-ipads-running-ios-9.html#tk.rss_news

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RE: New 2018 iPhones, iPad Pros, Macs and more: Everything Apple could announce on Sept. 12, CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

Thanks Mark,

Wondered when this was to happen.

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Subject: New 2018 iPhones, iPad Pros, Macs and more: Everything Apple could 
announce on Sept. 12, CNET

New 2018 iPhones, iPad Pros, Macs and more: Everything Apple could announce on 
Sept. 12 The low down on every new iPhone, iPad, MacBook, Apple Watch and more 
in Apple's pipeline.
By Justin Jaffe, August 30, 2018 9:42 AM PDT
 
Roundup
Apple season is officially here. The company sent out invites for an event 
scheduled on Sept. 12 at the Steve Jobs Theater in Cupertino, California -- the 
second time the event will happen at the Apple Park campus. While new iPhones 
are all but certain to be the headline, nearly all of Apple's other product 
lines are due for a refresh, too. 
Read: Apple sets Sept. 12 for its next big event, new iPhones on deck So what, 
exactly, is on deck for Sept. 12? The latest credible report on Apple's plans 
comes from an August 27 Bloomberg story co-written by Mark Gurman, a journalist 
with a strong track record on Apple stories. It reinforces and elaborates on 
earlier reports, claiming that Apple will debut three new iPhones that utilize 
the basic iPhone X design (big notched screen, no home button, Face ID), as 
well as the Apple Watch 4 and new iPad Pros.
In addition to those products, Apple is also overdue to refresh its Mac line, 
though its unclear if new products like a rumored MacBook Air replacement would 
be announced in September or later. 
With so many new Apple products on deck, we've collected all of the reports and 
rumors herein. Just note that nothing here has been explicitly confirmed unless 
otherwise indicated -- Apple almost never comments on forthcoming product 
announcements. With that caveat in place, read on for the lowdown on what we're 
hearing about new Apple products in the pipeline and when we might see them.

Editors' note, Aug. 30: This post was originally published on Aug. 27, 2018, 
and will continue to be updated with news and rumors on Apple's Sept.12 event 
and the company's 2018 product lineup. 
Three new iPhones
Apple has faithfully announced new iPhones in September since 2012, when it 
debuted the iPhone 5. And the company has offered two new models -- the 
"standard" 4.7-inch size and "Plus" 5.5-inch version with a better camera -- 
since 2014. Last year, it outdid itself with three new models, the iPhone 8,
8 Plus and -- a few weeks later -- the radically redesigned iPhone X. This 
year, Apple is widely expected to repeat that feat with a trio of totally new 
models that all follow the X design model: No home button, and nearly all 
screen.
Here's what we expect to see:
•   The sequel: The follow up to last year's flagship will likely get a
bump in performance, better dual camera and longer battery life, while 
retaining the same (or similar) 5.8-inch OLED screen. 
•   The big one: Rumor has it that Apple is developing a larger,
6.5-inch version of the iPhone X -- the iPhone X Plus, perhaps -- that could 
have three rear cameras and cost $1,100 or more. It's possible that Apple 
Pencil support could be added, too, to compete with Samsung's pro-focused 
Galaxy Note phones. 
•   The less expensive one: Reported to be the least expensive option of
the trio, a 6.1-inch variation will likely have an LCD display and just a 
single rear camera. Both larger phones may also get support for dual SIM cards 
in some countries, according to that August 27 Bloomberg story. But the 
6.1-inch phone may not ship until October.
Read: New 2018 iPhone, iPhone X Plus, iPhone 9: All the rumors on specs, 
prices, release date Plus, maybe a fourth sort of new iPhone Since its debut in 
2016, the iPhone SE has been the most affordable option in Apple's phone 
lineup. It's basically the components of an iPhone 6S -- minus 3D Touch -- 
stuffed into the smaller body of an iPhone 5. Apple gave it a modest refresh in 
2017 but a major update is way overdue. According to the rumors, however, Apple 
may deliver yet one more minor makeover in 2018, giving the iPhone SE 2 the 
same A10 processor used in 2016's iPhone 7. Will that refreshed SE retain its 
miniature 4-inch screen along with the $349,
£349 and AU$549 starting price? Only time will tell.
Read: iPhone SE 2: Rumored specs, leaks, price, release date Apple Watch 4 With 
Google and Samsung ratcheting up the smartwatch competition, Apple has a real 
incentive to shake things up with a dramatic new Watch announcement in 2018. A 
bigger display and click-free buttons are possibilities, both of which would 
imply the first major redesign since Apple's signature wearable debuted in 
2015. At the very least, we know Apple will debut WatchOS 5 (previewed at this 
year's WWDC develope

New 2018 iPhones, iPad Pros, Macs and more: Everything Apple could announce on Sept. 12, CNET

[M. Taylor]

New 2018 iPhones, iPad Pros, Macs and more: Everything Apple could announce
on Sept. 12
The low down on every new iPhone, iPad, MacBook, Apple Watch and more in
Apple's pipeline.
By Justin Jaffe, August 30, 2018 9:42 AM PDT
 
Roundup 
Apple season is officially here. The company sent out invites for an event
scheduled on Sept. 12 at the Steve Jobs Theater in Cupertino, California --
the second time the event will happen at the Apple Park campus. While new
iPhones are all but certain to be the headline, nearly all of Apple's other
product lines are due for a refresh, too. 
Read: Apple sets Sept. 12 for its next big event, new iPhones on deck
So what, exactly, is on deck for Sept. 12? The latest credible report on
Apple's plans comes from an August 27 Bloomberg story co-written by Mark
Gurman, a journalist with a strong track record on Apple stories. It
reinforces and elaborates on earlier reports, claiming that Apple will debut
three new iPhones that utilize the basic iPhone X design (big notched
screen, no home button, Face ID), as well as the Apple Watch 4 and new iPad
Pros.
In addition to those products, Apple is also overdue to refresh its Mac
line, though its unclear if new products like a rumored MacBook Air
replacement would be announced in September or later. 
With so many new Apple products on deck, we've collected all of the reports
and rumors herein. Just note that nothing here has been explicitly confirmed
unless otherwise indicated -- Apple almost never comments on forthcoming
product announcements. With that caveat in place, read on for the lowdown on
what we're hearing about new Apple products in the pipeline and when we
might see them.

Editors' note, Aug. 30: This post was originally published on Aug. 27, 2018,
and will continue to be updated with news and rumors on Apple's Sept.12
event and the company's 2018 product lineup. 
Three new iPhones
Apple has faithfully announced new iPhones in September since 2012, when it
debuted the iPhone 5. And the company has offered two new models -- the
"standard" 4.7-inch size and "Plus" 5.5-inch version with a better camera --
since 2014. Last year, it outdid itself with three new models, the iPhone 8,
8 Plus and -- a few weeks later -- the radically redesigned iPhone X. This
year, Apple is widely expected to repeat that feat with a trio of totally
new models that all follow the X design model: No home button, and nearly
all screen.
Here's what we expect to see:
•   The sequel: The follow up to last year's flagship will likely get a
bump in performance, better dual camera and longer battery life, while
retaining the same (or similar) 5.8-inch OLED screen. 
•   The big one: Rumor has it that Apple is developing a larger,
6.5-inch version of the iPhone X -- the iPhone X Plus, perhaps -- that could
have three rear cameras and cost $1,100 or more. It's possible that Apple
Pencil support could be added, too, to compete with Samsung's pro-focused
Galaxy Note phones. 
•   The less expensive one: Reported to be the least expensive option of
the trio, a 6.1-inch variation will likely have an LCD display and just a
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Re: Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

[Michael Busboom]

I wil definitely give this a try.

Thank you.



> On 31.07.2018, at 05:15, 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I discovered recently that Google lets you create a Google account, but not a 
> Gmail address if you'd rather use another one. I was helping a client sign up 
> with Google, and we were able to use the client's iCloud email to sign up. 
> The password was different from iCloud, of course, but the email was the 
> same. I imagine you could do the same with your work email, assuming that 
> email isn't already a Gmail address or one with a Google-managed domain, and 
> use your calendars that way. As others have said, you can add Google 
> calendars to your Calendar app, with no need for a new app at all. Mail, 
> contacts, and notes should be equally easy to add, should it be necessary.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 11:56, Michael Busboom > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the info,  Tim.  This is very helpful.
>> 
>> Although I have a Gmail account, it would not be the account I would want to 
>> use for our joint calendar.  It would be the email address I use for our 
>> research, which isn’t Google.  Would the calendar still work for me, as long 
>> as I had a Gmail calendar app on my iPhone?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30.07.2018, at 17:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It’s perfectly accessible. You can add a G Mail account to your iPhone and 
>>> use the built in Apple Calendar app as well. 
>>> 
>>> Later... 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Michael Busboom >>> > wrote:
 
 Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
 thought I’d ask you another question.
 
 I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people 
 use iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It 
 is the groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible 
 to everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google 
 calendar app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible 
 it really is.  Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy 
 enough to use, i.e. is it worth my effort to install it?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

['Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries]

I discovered recently that Google lets you create a Google account, but not a 
Gmail address if you'd rather use another one. I was helping a client sign up 
with Google, and we were able to use the client's iCloud email to sign up. The 
password was different from iCloud, of course, but the email was the same. I 
imagine you could do the same with your work email, assuming that email isn't 
already a Gmail address or one with a Google-managed domain, and use your 
calendars that way. As others have said, you can add Google calendars to your 
Calendar app, with no need for a new app at all. Mail, contacts, and notes 
should be equally easy to add, should it be necessary.

--
Alex Hall




> On Jul 30, 2018, at 11:56, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info,  Tim.  This is very helpful.
> 
> Although I have a Gmail account, it would not be the account I would want to 
> use for our joint calendar.  It would be the email address I use for our 
> research, which isn’t Google.  Would the calendar still work for me, as long 
> as I had a Gmail calendar app on my iPhone?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30.07.2018, at 17:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> It’s perfectly accessible. You can add a G Mail account to your iPhone and 
>> use the built in Apple Calendar app as well. 
>> 
>> Later... 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
>>> thought I’d ask you another question.
>>> 
>>> I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people 
>>> use iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It 
>>> is the groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible 
>>> to everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google 
>>> calendar app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible it 
>>> really is.  Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy 
>>> enough to use, i.e. is it worth my effort to install it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Mike
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Re: Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

[David Chittenden]

I do not have the Google Calendar app on my iPhone. I manage my Google 
Calendars on the native Apple Calendar app on my iPhone and iPad.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Jul 2018, at 01:56, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info,  Tim.  This is very helpful.
> 
> Although I have a Gmail account, it would not be the account I would want to 
> use for our joint calendar.  It would be the email address I use for our 
> research, which isn’t Google.  Would the calendar still work for me, as long 
> as I had a Gmail calendar app on my iPhone?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30.07.2018, at 17:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> It’s perfectly accessible. You can add a G Mail account to your iPhone and 
>> use the built in Apple Calendar app as well. 
>> 
>> Later... 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
>>> thought I’d ask you another question.
>>> 
>>> I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people 
>>> use iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It 
>>> is the groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible 
>>> to everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google 
>>> calendar app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible it 
>>> really is.  Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy 
>>> enough to use, i.e. is it worth my effort to install it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,


Only if you link that research account to Google. 

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info,  Tim.  This is very helpful.
> 
> Although I have a Gmail account, it would not be the account I would want to 
> use for our joint calendar.  It would be the email address I use for our 
> research, which isn’t Google.  Would the calendar still work for me, as long 
> as I had a Gmail calendar app on my iPhone?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30.07.2018, at 17:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> It’s perfectly accessible. You can add a G Mail account to your iPhone and 
>> use the built in Apple Calendar app as well. 
>> 
>> Later... 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
>>> thought I’d ask you another question.
>>> 
>>> I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people 
>>> use iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It 
>>> is the groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible 
>>> to everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google 
>>> calendar app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible it 
>>> really is.  Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy 
>>> enough to use, i.e. is it worth my effort to install it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

[Michael Busboom]

Thanks for the info,  Tim.  This is very helpful.

Although I have a Gmail account, it would not be the account I would want to 
use for our joint calendar.  It would be the email address I use for our 
research, which isn’t Google.  Would the calendar still work for me, as long as 
I had a Gmail calendar app on my iPhone?

Thanks,

Mike




> On 30.07.2018, at 17:47, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> It’s perfectly accessible. You can add a G Mail account to your iPhone and 
> use the built in Apple Calendar app as well. 
> 
> Later... 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
>> thought I’d ask you another question.
>> 
>> I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people use 
>> iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It is 
>> the groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible to 
>> everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google 
>> calendar app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible it 
>> really is.  Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy enough 
>> to use, i.e. is it worth my effort to install it?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,


It’s perfectly accessible. You can add a G Mail account to your iPhone and use 
the built in Apple Calendar app as well. 

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
> thought I’d ask you another question.
> 
> I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people use 
> iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It is the 
> groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible to 
> everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google 
> calendar app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible it 
> really is.  Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy enough 
> to use, i.e. is it worth my effort to install it?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mike
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Accessibility of Google calendars on iPhones?

[Michael Busboom]

Since all of you were so helpful with my inquiry about a fitness watch, I 
thought I’d ask you another question.

I am part of a R&D group here in Austria.  Within our group, some people use 
iOS devices while other people are using either Android or Windows. It is the 
groups thinking that, in order to have something readily accessible to 
everyone, we would use Google calendars.  While I know that the Google calendar 
app can be installed on my iPhone,I am wondering how accessible it really is.  
Have any of you successfully used the app, and is it easy enough to use, i.e. 
is it worth my effort to install it?

Thanks in advance,

Mike

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RE: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Simon Fogarty]

Um,,

I really don't see what they've done that makes a lot of change for those of us 
using adaptive tech,

 AR is not going to be easy to work with when using voiceover and personally I 
wouldn't put my health data into an app (at this point anyway) because I don't 
trust NZ medical professionals or apple to keep things private.


I'm really wondering what apple are trying to do,
Make things pretty or functional?

I'd like a device that let me work with out issues and give me features I 
require not what they think I need.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2018 5:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 
11 first launched, Ars Technica

Very neat.

On 3/29/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 
> first launched This is a big update, and Apple also released updates 
> to tvOS and watchOS.
> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>
> Apple
> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the 
> iPad Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and 
> later, and the sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available 
> for download now in supported regions.
> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS 
> since iOS
> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance 
> throttling on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for 
> augmented reality, adds the ability to chat with customer support reps 
> from companies in Messages, and lets users access their personal 
> health records in the Health app.
> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple 
> TV and watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these 
> updates adds for users.
> Battery Health
>
> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in 
> the Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance 
> throttling on older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point 
> that that they pose a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from 
> voltage shortages. Apple lists this as a beta feature.
> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," 
> called "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery 
> Apple deems healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining 
> some key concerns with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a 
> webpage that goes into more detail. It will also show a value for 
> "maximum capacity." This value is a percentage.
> Apple explains it this way:
> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. 
> Lower capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance 
> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown 
> due to low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is 
> currently supporting normal peak performance." However, if your 
> battery has dropped to a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown 
> this copy instead:
> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery 
> was unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management 
> has been applied to help prevent this from happening again.
> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the 
> performance-management feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It 
> also tells you that you can upgrade the battery to solve this problem 
> completely:
> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized 
> Service Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance 
> and capacity.
> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first 
> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a 
> maximum capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on 
> unless you've run into the problem.
> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to 
> address a consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users 
> about the option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the 
> class-action lawsuits that have popped up in response to the 
> performance management controversy that began last December when 
> Reddit users and the dev behind benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed 
> that iOS throttled performance on devices with underperforming batteries.
> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a 
&

Re: Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[Vaughn Brown]

Very neat.

On 3/29/18, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first
> launched
> This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and watchOS.
> by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
>
> Apple
> Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad
> Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the
> sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in
> supported regions.
> With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since
> iOS
> 11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling
> on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality,
> adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in
> Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health
> app.
> Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV
> and
> watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for
> users.
> Battery Health
>
> You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the
> Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
> As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling
> on
> older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they
> pose
> a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple
> lists this as a beta feature.
> There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called
> "Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems
> healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns
> with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more
> detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a
> percentage.
> Apple explains it this way:
> This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower
> capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
> There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance
> Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due
> to
> low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently
> supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped
> to
> a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
> This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was
> unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been
> applied to help prevent this from happening again.
> Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management
> feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can
> upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
> Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized
> Service
> Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
> Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first
> experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum
> capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run
> into the problem.
> The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to address a
> consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users about the
> option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the class-action
> lawsuits that have popped up in response to the performance management
> controversy that began last December when Reddit users and the dev behind
> benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed that iOS throttled performance on
> devices with underperforming batteries.
> Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a new
> iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it "maintains
> battery health when iPad is connected to power for prolonged periods of
> time, such as when it is used in kiosks, point-of-sale systems, or stored
> in
> charging carts."
>
> ARKit 1.5
> ARKit is Apple's augmented reality application programming interface. Apple
> introduced ARKit at its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) last year.
> The framework handles some of the lower-level heavy lifting for augmented
> reality so developers can focus on customization of its experiences and on
> content.
> Previously, ARKit could only accurately place objects on flat, horizontal
> planes, limiting the range of applications developers could make. With
> ARKit
> 1.5, developers can now place objects on vertica

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first launched, Ars Technica

[M. Taylor]

Apple releases iOS 11.3, the biggest update for iPhones since iOS 11 first
launched
This is a big update, and Apple also released updates to tvOS and watchOS.
by Samuel Axon - Mar 29, 2018 2:39pm PDT
 
Apple
Today, Apple released iOS 11.3 to all supported devices, including the iPad
Air and later, the iPad mini 2 and later, the iPhone 5S and later, and the
sixth-generation iPod touch. The update is available for download now in
supported regions.
With several new features, it's arguably the biggest update to iOS since iOS
11 first released. iOS 11.3 addresses battery-based performance throttling
on older devices, adds significant new capabilities for augmented reality,
adds the ability to chat with customer support reps from companies in
Messages, and lets users access their personal health records in the Health
app.
Apple also released smaller updates for tvOS (tvOS 11.3) on the Apple TV and
watchOS (watchOS 4.3). Let's dive into what each of these updates adds for
users.
Battery Health
 
You'll find the new Battery Health settings nested under "Battery" in the
Settings app. Note that it's prominently listed as still in beta.
As promised, Apple has made it possible to disable performance throttling on
older iPhones whose batteries have degraded to the point that that they pose
a risk for unexpected shutdowns resulting from voltage shortages. Apple
lists this as a beta feature.
There is now a section in the Settings app, nested under "Battery," called
"Battery Health." If you visit this on a phone with a battery Apple deems
healthy, it will simply serve up brief copy explaining some key concerns
with iPhone batteries, along with a link to a webpage that goes into more
detail. It will also show a value for "maximum capacity." This value is a
percentage.
Apple explains it this way:
This is a measure of battery capacity relative to when it was new. Lower
capacity may result in fewer hours of usage between charges.
There's a section of this settings screen labeled "Peak Performance
Capacity." If your phone has never experienced an unexpected shutdown due to
low battery health, it will simply say: "Your battery is currently
supporting normal peak performance." However, if your battery has dropped to
a low-enough maximum capacity, you'll be shown this copy instead:
This iPhone has experienced an unexpected shutdown because the battery was
unable to deliver the necessary peak power. Performance management has been
applied to help prevent this from happening again.
Next to this, you'll see an option to disable the performance-management
feature that has so irked iPhone owners. It also tells you that you can
upgrade the battery to solve this problem completely:
Your battery's health is significantly degraded. An Apple Authorized Service
Provider can replace the battery to restore full performance and capacity.
Notably, performance management is disabled until the phone first
experiences an unexpected shutdown; it's not activated simply by a maximum
capacity below a certain value, and you can't turn it on unless you've run
into the problem.
The note about the Apple Authorized Service Provider is meant to address a
consumer complaint that Apple was not transparent with users about the
option to upgrade the battery—that complaint is key in the class-action
lawsuits that have popped up in response to the performance management
controversy that began last December when Reddit users and the dev behind
benchmarking app Geekbench confirmed that iOS throttled performance on
devices with underperforming batteries.
Apple does not offer this feature on iPads, but this update does add a new
iPad feature called "charge management." The update notes say it "maintains
battery health when iPad is connected to power for prolonged periods of
time, such as when it is used in kiosks, point-of-sale systems, or stored in
charging carts."

ARKit 1.5
ARKit is Apple's augmented reality application programming interface. Apple
introduced ARKit at its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) last year.
The framework handles some of the lower-level heavy lifting for augmented
reality so developers can focus on customization of its experiences and on
content.
Previously, ARKit could only accurately place objects on flat, horizontal
planes, limiting the range of applications developers could make. With ARKit
1.5, developers can now place objects on vertical planes like walls, and
accuracy is improved when mapping objects onto surfaces that aren't
completely flat.
It also adds image-recognition capabilities. For example, an AR app could
show a full-sized robot if a poster for an associated robot movie is seen by
the phone's camera, or it could provide additional context in a museum when
a certain painting is seen. Apple touts a "higher-resolution real-world
camera view when using AR exper

Same iOS App, Two Different Experiences on Two Different iPhones, the Alexa App

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I have been contacted, off-list, by several VoiceOver users who claim that
the Alexa for iOS app is somewhat sluggish on their devices, as a result,
they prefer to use the web browser interface.  They questioned why I stated
that the iOS version of the app was easy to use.

Well, I did some testing and found that the VoiceOver experience will vary
depending on which iPhone one uses.  

I used the app on two iPhone 6 Plus units and two iPhone 6 S Plus units and
the app functioned as expected.  

However, when I ran the app on either a 7 Plus or an 8 Plus, I did, indeed,
find the experience somewhat less satisfying.  In fact, there were some
serious video display problems requiring me to restart the app several
times.  

Now that I think about it, the only way I was able to consistently navigate
through the various elements of the app was to use my vision.  For example,
sometimes tapping on a button resulted in no response from the app, at all.
Depending upon the video display malfunction, VoiceOver focus can drift as
one scrolls through the app, very disappointing.  

So, there you have it.  

I suggest that, for the most consistently accessible experience configuring
Alexa, use a web browser and go to alexa.amazon.com.

I apologize for any frustration I may have caused anyone because of my
previous post on the Alexa for iOS app.

Mark

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iPhones and VMNO providers

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

  Hi all:

Went to get an iPhone today, and it was a bust from AT&T. *sigh* I'm
thinking about doing one of the MVNO providers that runs off the AT&T
network.

Anyone tried them? Rumors are they can throdle the network speeds and not
all iphone features work.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli  
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 

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RE: How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage, USA Today

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah I gotta admit  the 256 gb x I thought was over the top,
I had a 128gb 7+ previously 

I think really they should have 64 GB 128 and 256gb devices,

 Or at least 64 & 256.

 Covers all bases.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2018 9:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage, 
USA Today

Hi,

Actually, as noted in the article, backing up is the least of the worries.  
Photos, videos, music and such are the biggest hogs of the iPhone space.  If 
you a 32 Gig iPhone, throw a bunch of apps on it and mostly just use it for 
texting and phone calls, then you'll be OK, probably even with backups to the 
free version of iCloud.  Start adding off-line music or video downloads, throw 
in some pictures and videos or live pics, then the space on the iPhone itself 
will be used up.  So, backing up isn't the issue, it's what you store on the 
device that will likely cause issues first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2018, at 06:13, Saqib Hussain  wrote:

One way to avoid these storage plans is to back everything up to a computer.   

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:01, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage By 
> Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY Updated 6:49 p.m. PST Feb. 3, 2018
> 
> LOS ANGELES - Sure, Apple sold a boatload of iPhones in the holiday 
> quarter and made a mint.
> But beyond the cash cow that is new iPhone sales, it also revealed how 
> it's profiting by selling units that don't have enough room to hold 
> all its customers' photos, videos and apps.
> 
> The iconic iPhone maker this week said it shipped 77.3 million 
> iPhones, along with 13.1 million iPads and 5.1 million Macintosh computers.
> 
> But the more interesting number is the growing size of the iPhone 
> army-now at 1.3 billion people, up from 1 billion two years ago.
> "That's 300 million extra people you can sell to," says Patrick 
> Moorhead, an analyst with Moor Insights.
> The No. 2 division at Apple is Services -including Apple Music, 
> iTunes,
> iCloud- now brings in more revenue than Macs or iPads, selling 
> software, and to Moorhead, it's not music subscriptions and iTunes 
> movie rentals that are fueling the charge, "but all those iCloud upgrades."
> Services grew to $8.5 billion, from just over $7 billion in the year 
> ago quarter, thanks to all those folks who probably awoke to nagging 
> messages from Apple that their iPhone storage was full, and that they 
> needed to upgrade, pronto.
> 
> On the old entry level 16 GB phone, the operating system takes up 4 GB 
> of space, and many apps now are so big that they clock in near 1 GB as well.
> Even with the now standard starter 32 GB phone, snap some 
> high-resolution photos and videos, hold onto your texts and e-mails 
> and a handful of apps, and you're soon maxed out.
> 
> The basic iCloud service is free, but with just 5 GB of storage. Apple 
> sells iCloud upgrades starting at 99 cents monthly for 50 GB of 
> storage, or $2.99 monthly for 200 GB. Unless iPhone users are tech 
> savvy enough to figure out alternatives, they will be out of room on 
> their devices within weeks of purchase.
> 
> Based on the trajectory of past performance, if Apple never released 
> another iPhone, and just sat back and let Services do its thing, 
> reaping about $8 billion for each of the next four quarters, it could 
> generate $30-$40 billion a year in revenues just from storing people's 
> photos and videos, and selling them movie rentals and music subscriptions.
> 
> Think about that for a moment.
> McDonald's, the nation's largest restaurant chain, sells about $25 
> billion worth of hamburgers and such every year. Apple already sells 
> more Services than it does Macs; now it's poised to sell more software 
> rentals than McDonald's generates with Big Macs.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/02/03/how-apple-p
> rofits -selling-you-iphones-little-storage/303243002/
> 
> 
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Re: How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage, USA Today

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Actually, as noted in the article, backing up is the least of the worries.  
Photos, videos, music and such are the biggest hogs of the iPhone space.  If 
you a 32 Gig iPhone, throw a bunch of apps on it and mostly just use it for 
texting and phone calls, then you'll be OK, probably even with backups to the 
free version of iCloud.  Start adding off-line music or video downloads, throw 
in some pictures and videos or live pics, then the space on the iPhone itself 
will be used up.  So, backing up isn't the issue, it's what you store on the 
device that will likely cause issues first.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2018, at 06:13, Saqib Hussain  wrote:

One way to avoid these storage plans is to back everything up to a computer.   

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:01, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage
> By Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY Updated 6:49 p.m. PST Feb. 3, 2018 
> 
> LOS ANGELES - Sure, Apple sold a boatload of iPhones in the holiday quarter
> and made a mint.
> But beyond the cash cow that is new iPhone sales, it also revealed how it's
> profiting by selling units that don't have enough room to hold all its
> customers' photos, videos and apps.
> 
> The iconic iPhone maker this week said it shipped 77.3 million iPhones,
> along with 13.1 million iPads and 5.1 million Macintosh computers. 
> 
> But the more interesting number is the growing size of the iPhone army-now
> at 1.3 billion people, up from 1 billion two years ago. 
> "That's 300 million extra people you can sell to," says Patrick Moorhead, an
> analyst with Moor Insights.
> The No. 2 division at Apple is Services -including Apple Music, iTunes,
> iCloud- now brings in more revenue than Macs or iPads, selling software, and
> to Moorhead, it's not music subscriptions and iTunes movie rentals that are
> fueling the charge, "but all those iCloud upgrades." 
> Services grew to $8.5 billion, from just over $7 billion in the year ago
> quarter, thanks to all those folks who probably awoke to nagging messages
> from Apple that their iPhone storage was full, and that they needed to
> upgrade, pronto.
> 
> On the old entry level 16 GB phone, the operating system takes up 4 GB of
> space, and many apps now are so big that they clock in near 1 GB as well.
> Even with the now standard starter 32 GB phone, snap some high-resolution
> photos and videos, hold onto your texts and e-mails and a handful of apps,
> and you're soon maxed out.
> 
> The basic iCloud service is free, but with just 5 GB of storage. Apple sells
> iCloud upgrades starting at 99 cents monthly for 50 GB of storage, or $2.99
> monthly for 200 GB. Unless iPhone users are tech savvy enough to figure out
> alternatives, they will be out of room on their devices within weeks of
> purchase. 
> 
> Based on the trajectory of past performance, if Apple never released another
> iPhone, and just sat back and let Services do its thing, reaping about $8
> billion for each of the next four quarters, it could generate $30-$40
> billion a year in revenues just from storing people's photos and videos, and
> selling them movie rentals and music subscriptions. 
> 
> Think about that for a moment.
> McDonald's, the nation's largest restaurant chain, sells about $25 billion
> worth of hamburgers and such every year. Apple already sells more Services
> than it does Macs; now it's poised to sell more software rentals than
> McDonald's generates with Big Macs.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/02/03/how-apple-profits
> -selling-you-iphones-little-storage/303243002/
> 
> 
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Re: How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage, USA Today

[Saqib Hussain]

One way to avoid these storage plans is to back everything up to a computer.   

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 21:01, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage
> By Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY Updated 6:49 p.m. PST Feb. 3, 2018 
> 
> LOS ANGELES - Sure, Apple sold a boatload of iPhones in the holiday quarter
> and made a mint.
> But beyond the cash cow that is new iPhone sales, it also revealed how it's
> profiting by selling units that don't have enough room to hold all its
> customers' photos, videos and apps.
> 
> The iconic iPhone maker this week said it shipped 77.3 million iPhones,
> along with 13.1 million iPads and 5.1 million Macintosh computers. 
> 
> But the more interesting number is the growing size of the iPhone army-now
> at 1.3 billion people, up from 1 billion two years ago. 
> "That's 300 million extra people you can sell to," says Patrick Moorhead, an
> analyst with Moor Insights.
> The No. 2 division at Apple is Services -including Apple Music, iTunes,
> iCloud- now brings in more revenue than Macs or iPads, selling software, and
> to Moorhead, it's not music subscriptions and iTunes movie rentals that are
> fueling the charge, "but all those iCloud upgrades." 
> Services grew to $8.5 billion, from just over $7 billion in the year ago
> quarter, thanks to all those folks who probably awoke to nagging messages
> from Apple that their iPhone storage was full, and that they needed to
> upgrade, pronto.
> 
> On the old entry level 16 GB phone, the operating system takes up 4 GB of
> space, and many apps now are so big that they clock in near 1 GB as well.
> Even with the now standard starter 32 GB phone, snap some high-resolution
> photos and videos, hold onto your texts and e-mails and a handful of apps,
> and you're soon maxed out.
> 
> The basic iCloud service is free, but with just 5 GB of storage. Apple sells
> iCloud upgrades starting at 99 cents monthly for 50 GB of storage, or $2.99
> monthly for 200 GB. Unless iPhone users are tech savvy enough to figure out
> alternatives, they will be out of room on their devices within weeks of
> purchase. 
> 
> Based on the trajectory of past performance, if Apple never released another
> iPhone, and just sat back and let Services do its thing, reaping about $8
> billion for each of the next four quarters, it could generate $30-$40
> billion a year in revenues just from storing people's photos and videos, and
> selling them movie rentals and music subscriptions. 
> 
> Think about that for a moment.
> McDonald's, the nation's largest restaurant chain, sells about $25 billion
> worth of hamburgers and such every year. Apple already sells more Services
> than it does Macs; now it's poised to sell more software rentals than
> McDonald's generates with Big Macs.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/02/03/how-apple-profits
> -selling-you-iphones-little-storage/303243002/
> 
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How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage, USA Today

[M. Taylor]

How Apple profits from selling you iPhones with little storage
By Jefferson Graham, USA TODAY Updated 6:49 p.m. PST Feb. 3, 2018 

LOS ANGELES - Sure, Apple sold a boatload of iPhones in the holiday quarter
and made a mint.
But beyond the cash cow that is new iPhone sales, it also revealed how it's
profiting by selling units that don't have enough room to hold all its
customers' photos, videos and apps.

The iconic iPhone maker this week said it shipped 77.3 million iPhones,
along with 13.1 million iPads and 5.1 million Macintosh computers. 

But the more interesting number is the growing size of the iPhone army-now
at 1.3 billion people, up from 1 billion two years ago. 
"That's 300 million extra people you can sell to," says Patrick Moorhead, an
analyst with Moor Insights.
The No. 2 division at Apple is Services -including Apple Music, iTunes,
iCloud- now brings in more revenue than Macs or iPads, selling software, and
to Moorhead, it's not music subscriptions and iTunes movie rentals that are
fueling the charge, "but all those iCloud upgrades." 
Services grew to $8.5 billion, from just over $7 billion in the year ago
quarter, thanks to all those folks who probably awoke to nagging messages
from Apple that their iPhone storage was full, and that they needed to
upgrade, pronto.

On the old entry level 16 GB phone, the operating system takes up 4 GB of
space, and many apps now are so big that they clock in near 1 GB as well.
Even with the now standard starter 32 GB phone, snap some high-resolution
photos and videos, hold onto your texts and e-mails and a handful of apps,
and you're soon maxed out.

The basic iCloud service is free, but with just 5 GB of storage. Apple sells
iCloud upgrades starting at 99 cents monthly for 50 GB of storage, or $2.99
monthly for 200 GB. Unless iPhone users are tech savvy enough to figure out
alternatives, they will be out of room on their devices within weeks of
purchase. 

Based on the trajectory of past performance, if Apple never released another
iPhone, and just sat back and let Services do its thing, reaping about $8
billion for each of the next four quarters, it could generate $30-$40
billion a year in revenues just from storing people's photos and videos, and
selling them movie rentals and music subscriptions. 

Think about that for a moment.
McDonald's, the nation's largest restaurant chain, sells about $25 billion
worth of hamburgers and such every year. Apple already sells more Services
than it does Macs; now it's poised to sell more software rentals than
McDonald's generates with Big Macs.

Original Article at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/02/03/how-apple-profits
-selling-you-iphones-little-storage/303243002/


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Re: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Partially because once you make the battery user replaceable, you hinder the 
ability to make the unit waterproof and as skinny as they currently are.  Along 
with other more selfish reasons, I'm sure.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Dec 20, 2017, at 22:30, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Why can't they let us upgrade / change batteries rather than slow the phone 
down.

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Subject: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues

The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected shutdowns 
-- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST

Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower but also 
prevents unexpected shutdowns. 
CNET 

If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy. 
Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes your 
phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help offset problems 
with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As batteries get older, they 
don't hold their charges as well as newer batteries, and have even worse 
problems when the charge is lower or the temperature is colder. 

The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or might 
unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S last year. The 
processors in those devices wanted to hit faster speeds, but the batteries 
couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply switch themselves off.

To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 10.2.1, 
included better power management capabilities. It will slow down your device to 
prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases of cold temperature, a low 
battery charge or very old batteries. 

Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and SE. 
This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It will 
be applied to other Apple devices in the future. 
Apple said in a statement:
"Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes 
overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion 
batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold 
conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can 
result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic 
components. 

Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth 
out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from 
unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended that 
feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products 
in the future."

The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this week from 
Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor benchmarking software. 
John Poole, founder of the organization, said in a blog post that as iPhone 
batteries get older and lose capacity, their processors slow down, decreasing 
performance. Poole explained that users expect their phones to perform the same 
regardless of how old the battery is, but his tests indicated that wasn't the 
case. 

iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow down when 
new models are released. Some even believe that it's an effort by Apple (and 
other tech companies) to purposely slow down or otherwise hamper the 
performance of their products to get users to buy new models. Apple has long 
denied this claim. 

For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be updating its 
battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple charges $79 to replace 
the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a warranty. 

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-6s-7-ios-slow-downs-older-iphones-l
ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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RE: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

[Simon Fogarty]

Why can't they let us upgrade / change batteries rather than slow the phone 
down.

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Subject: Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues

The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected shutdowns 
-- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST
 
Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower but also 
prevents unexpected shutdowns. 
CNET 

If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy. 
Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes your 
phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help offset problems 
with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As batteries get older, they 
don't hold their charges as well as newer batteries, and have even worse 
problems when the charge is lower or the temperature is colder. 

The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or might 
unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S last year. The 
processors in those devices wanted to hit faster speeds, but the batteries 
couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply switch themselves off.

To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 10.2.1, 
included better power management capabilities. It will slow down your device to 
prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases of cold temperature, a low 
battery charge or very old batteries. 

Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and SE. 
This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It will 
be applied to other Apple devices in the future. 
Apple said in a statement:
"Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes 
overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion 
batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold 
conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can 
result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic 
components. 

Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth 
out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from 
unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended that 
feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products 
in the future."

The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this week from 
Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor benchmarking software. 
John Poole, founder of the organization, said in a blog post that as iPhone 
batteries get older and lose capacity, their processors slow down, decreasing 
performance. Poole explained that users expect their phones to perform the same 
regardless of how old the battery is, but his tests indicated that wasn't the 
case. 

iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow down when 
new models are released. Some even believe that it's an effort by Apple (and 
other tech companies) to purposely slow down or otherwise hamper the 
performance of their products to get users to buy new models. Apple has long 
denied this claim. 

For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be updating its 
battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple charges $79 to replace 
the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a warranty. 

Original Article at:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-iphone-6-6s-7-ios-slow-downs-older-iphones-l
ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues - CNET

[M. Taylor]

Apple admits it slows older iPhones -- to prevent battery issues

The company says the practice deals with problems -- like unexpected
shutdowns -- caused by aging batteries or cold conditions.
December 20, 2017 1:19 PM PST
 
Apple's iPhone 6 from 2014 includes software that makes it run slower but
also prevents unexpected shutdowns. 
CNET 

If you think your older iPhone seems to run slower, you're not crazy. 
Apple on Wednesday said a software feature it released last year makes your
phone operate more slowly. But the slowdown is designed to help offset
problems with the aging lithium ion battery in your device. As batteries get
older, they don't hold their charges as well as newer batteries, and have
even worse problems when the charge is lower or the temperature is colder. 

The aging battery means your phone could have trouble operating or might
unexpectedly shut down, like happened to the iPhone 6 and 6S last year. The
processors in those devices wanted to hit faster speeds, but the batteries
couldn't handle it, prompting some phones to simply switch themselves off.

To address that, Apple's iOS software, starting with last year's iOS 10.2.1,
included better power management capabilities. It will slow down your device
to prevent it from shutting down, but only in cases of cold temperature, a
low battery charge or very old batteries. 

Last year's software applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S Plus and
SE. This year's iOS 11.2 extended the feature to the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus. It
will be applied to other Apple devices in the future. 
Apple said in a statement:
"Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes
overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion
batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold
conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can
result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic
components. 

Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to
smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device
from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended
that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other
products in the future."

The comment from Apple came in response to a report from earlier this week
from Primate Labs, the company behind the Geekbench processor benchmarking
software. John Poole, founder of the organization, said in a blog post that
as iPhone batteries get older and lose capacity, their processors slow down,
decreasing performance. Poole explained that users expect their phones to
perform the same regardless of how old the battery is, but his tests
indicated that wasn't the case. 

iPhone users have long complained about their devices seeming to slow down
when new models are released. Some even believe that it's an effort by Apple
(and other tech companies) to purposely slow down or otherwise hamper the
performance of their products to get users to buy new models. Apple has long
denied this claim. 

For some people, the solution to a slower, older iPhone may be updating its
battery instead of purchasing a brand new device. Apple charges $79 to
replace the battery of an iPhone that's no longer covered by a warranty. 

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ithium-ion-batteries/#ftag=CAD-09-10aai5b

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iPhones start slowing down after a year of use, and that's way too soon

[dan d.]

Ios software starts to slow cpu and gpu speeds.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/12/20/16803190/iphone-slowdown-is-needed-but-also-a-problem

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8 ways to speed up iOS 11 on older iPhones - CNET

[M. Taylor]

CNET How To - Monday, September 18, 2017 at 11:01 AM
8 ways to speed up iOS 11 on older iPhones - CNET
If your old iPhone is acting sluggish after updating to the new iOS 11,
there are a few ways to chase those slow iPhone blues away. 
1. Free up some space
An iPhone at or near capacity tends to run slower. You can lighten its load
by removing apps you no longer use and deleting photos and videos you no
longer need (or moving the ones you want to keep to the cloud). iOS 11
introduces a few new tools to help you regain some storage space. Head to
Settings > General > Storage & iCloud Usage and select Manage Storage under
the Storage section. Here, you'll see a colorful chart that shows you how
much space you are using and how much free space you have remaining. Below
the chart you'll get a few recommendations about how to save storage,
including the newfound ability to Offload Unused Apps, enable iCloud Photo
Photo Library, Auto Delete Old Conversations (texts and attachments more
than a year old) and Review Large Attachments.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
 
Now Playing: Watch this: Speed up iOS 11 on older iPhones 
2:32 
2. Embrace HEIF
iOS 11 introduces file formats for photos and videos that results in smaller
file sizes. Photos use the HEIF format and videos use the HEVC format. If
you are like most iPhone users, photos and videos are biggest occupies of
storage space. Go to Settings > Camera > Formats and choose High Efficiency
to use the new HEIF and HEVC formats.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
Note: You won't see the new Formats settings option on older iPhones and
iPads. Only devices with at least the A10 Fusion chip -- iPhone 7, iPhone 7
Plus, 10.5-inch iPad Pro, second-generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro and up-- can
snap photos with the HEIF format and shoot videos with the HEVC format. 
3. Update your apps
Old apps may not run as smoothly or quickly on the new iOS 11 without an
update. After updating your iPhone to iOS 11, check to see if you've got app
updates waiting. Open the App Store app, tap Updates and tap Update All to
update your apps.
4. No automatic updates
As with previous versions, iOS 11 runs processes in the background to make
your life easier. Apps update themselves in the background, for example,
which saves you from having to stare at an ever-increasing number in the
badge alert on your App Store icon.
Updating apps in the background, however, is a process that occupies your
device's CPU (not to mention battery). You can disable this feature and
update your apps manually via the App Store app.
To do so, go to Settings > iTunes & App Store and tap the toggle switch to
turn off Updates in the Automatic Downloads section. (The other three
options here -- Music, Apps and Books & Audiobooks -- are for sharing
downloads among your iOS devices. When enabled, any new purchases that you
make in the iTunes Store, App Store or iBooks Store automatically sync
across your devices.)
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
5. No background app refresh
In addition to updating when you are otherwise occupied, apps also refresh
their content in the background. For example, your Facebook or Twitter feed
will update without you manually updating when you open the app. Helpful, to
be sure, but it occupies CPU cycles. To turn it off, go to Settings >
General > Background App Refresh and tap the toggle switch off. Or, you can
take the a la carte approach and leave Background App Refresh enabled at the
top and turn it off for individual apps from the list below.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
6. Reduce transparency and motion effects
Apple uses a number of effects to give iOS a sense of depth as you tilt your
phone or open and close apps. These motion effects generally improve your
experience, but not if they result in choppy animations. To disable, go to
Settings > General > Accessibility > Reduce Motion and tap the toggle switch
to turn on Reduce Motion. You can also toggle off Auto-Play Message Effects,
but that'll take some of the fun out of texting.
Next, head back to the Accessibility screen, tap the line above Reduce
Motion titled Increase Contrast and tap the toggle switch to turn on Reduce
Transparency. This setting reduces the transparency and blur effects,
ostensibly to increase legibility, but it can also serve to speed up
performance because it's one fewer graphics task for your device's processor
to handle.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
7. Dial back location services
Location services chew up battery life more than performance, but if your
iOS device is draining its battery at a faster clip with iOS 11, it's time
to cut down on the number of apps using your device's GPS to request your
location. iOS 11 gives you more control over how and when apps access your
location. No longer can a developer offer only Always or Never for the
tracking options for location services. Now, you'll be abl

Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

[Scott Granados]

Well, T-Mobile tried this at one point and I think still has it in place.  When 
you hear about Binge on where people can stream unlimited video from certain 
sites, they down convert the signal if this feature is enabled.  Then there was 
a time they charged $25 extra for HD but I think that met resistance and went 
away or at least is less talked about now.  As an interesting point also, 
T-Mobile just increased from 28 to 32 megabytes the amount where they make the 
cut for throttling so they increased the bandwidth available.
I think it’s likely any company will throttle traffic on busy towers, 
that’s not unreasonable but down converting video I think will hit people the 
wrong way.

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I was just about to write something to that effect.
> 
> I had a bad experience with T-Mobile years ago, so have avoided it 
> assiduously.  But this, along with the info Scot has shared re network 
> expansion, ismaking me think about giving them another go.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:04 AM, gary-melconian  wrote:
>> 
>> They just lost a bunch of customers to  att , t-mobile and sprint. All those 
>> customers are going to be those switchers that t-mobile has been targeting 
>> lately . Now they have even more bullets in their firing armor.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as 
>> low as 480p on iPhones
>> 
>> VZW what a rip off!
>> 
>> On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM Verizon permanently
>>> throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones
>>> 
>>> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube
>>> usage for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level
>>> at which the company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now
>>> been revealed that this was just stage one.
>>> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited'
>>> plans, with bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a
>>> smartphone .
>>> 
>>> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited
>>> plan into three versions.
>>> .   Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
>>> on tablets.
>>> .   Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
>>> 1080p on tablets.
>>> .   Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
>>> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
>>> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier
>>> to reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the
>>> basic Go Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network
>>> congestion - aka the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet
>>> customer needs. The company does say than anyone unhappy with
>>> performance on this plan can upgrade to Beyond.
>>> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get
>>> 15GB of full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still
>>> won't protect you from video throttling.
>>> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No
>>> matter what plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered
>>> unlimited data plan or a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan -
>>> Verizon is taking a tighter grip over video streaming. "Moving
>>> forward, HD video on all legacy plans will also match Beyond
>>> Unlimited's HD quality."
>>> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming
>>> on phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
>>> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p
>>> and higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which
>>> are clearly ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
>>> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and
>>> YouTube-specific throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's
>>> unclear whether this will help if the company is limiting the
>>> bandwidth of all video. The new limits kick in tomorrow for new
>>> customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it seems we won't have to
>>> wait long before we find out.

Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

[Donna Goodin]

I was just about to write something to that effect.

I had a bad experience with T-Mobile years ago, so have avoided it assiduously. 
 But this, along with the info Scot has shared re network expansion, ismaking 
me think about giving them another go.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 23, 2017, at 1:04 AM, gary-melconian  wrote:
> 
> They just lost a bunch of customers to  att , t-mobile and sprint. All those 
> customers are going to be those switchers that t-mobile has been targeting 
> lately . Now they have even more bullets in their firing armor.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as 
> low as 480p on iPhones
> 
> VZW what a rip off!
> 
> On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM Verizon permanently 
>> throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones
>> 
>> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube 
>> usage for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level 
>> at which the company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now 
>> been revealed that this was just stage one.
>> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' 
>> plans, with bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a 
>> smartphone .
>> 
>> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited 
>> plan into three versions.
>> .Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
>> on tablets.
>> .Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
>> 1080p on tablets.
>> .Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
>> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
>> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier 
>> to reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the 
>> basic Go Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network 
>> congestion - aka the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet 
>> customer needs. The company does say than anyone unhappy with 
>> performance on this plan can upgrade to Beyond.
>> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 
>> 15GB of full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still 
>> won't protect you from video throttling.
>> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No 
>> matter what plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered 
>> unlimited data plan or a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - 
>> Verizon is taking a tighter grip over video streaming. "Moving 
>> forward, HD video on all legacy plans will also match Beyond 
>> Unlimited's HD quality."
>> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming 
>> on phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
>> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p 
>> and higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which 
>> are clearly ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
>> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and 
>> YouTube-specific throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's 
>> unclear whether this will help if the company is limiting the 
>> bandwidth of all video. The new limits kick in tomorrow for new 
>> customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it seems we won't have to 
>> wait long before we find out.
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>> 
>> 
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RE: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

[gary-melconian]

They just lost a bunch of customers to  att , t-mobile and sprint. All those 
customers are going to be those switchers that t-mobile has been targeting 
lately . Now they have even more bullets in their firing armor.  

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of lenron brown
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:56 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as 
low as 480p on iPhones

VZW what a rip off!

On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM Verizon permanently 
> throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones
>
> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube 
> usage for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level 
> at which the company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now 
> been revealed that this was just stage one.
> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' 
> plans, with bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a 
> smartphone .
>
> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited 
> plan into three versions.
> . Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
> on tablets.
> . Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
> 1080p on tablets.
> . Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier 
> to reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the 
> basic Go Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network 
> congestion - aka the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet 
> customer needs. The company does say than anyone unhappy with 
> performance on this plan can upgrade to Beyond.
> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 
> 15GB of full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still 
> won't protect you from video throttling.
> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No 
> matter what plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered 
> unlimited data plan or a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - 
> Verizon is taking a tighter grip over video streaming. "Moving 
> forward, HD video on all legacy plans will also match Beyond 
> Unlimited's HD quality."
> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming 
> on phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p 
> and higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which 
> are clearly ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and 
> YouTube-specific throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's 
> unclear whether this will help if the company is limiting the 
> bandwidth of all video. The new limits kick in tomorrow for new 
> customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it seems we won't have to 
> wait long before we find out.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>
>
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Re: Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

[lenron brown]

VZW what a rip off!

On 8/23/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM
> Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p
> on iPhones
>
> We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube usage
> for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level at which the
> company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now been revealed that
> this was just stage one.
> Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' plans,
> with
> bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a smartphone .
>
> As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited plan
> into three versions.
> . Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
> on tablets.
> . Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
> 1080p on tablets.
> . Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
> smartphones, 720p on tablets.
> Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier to
> reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the basic
> Go
> Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network congestion -
> aka
> the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet customer needs. The
> company does say than anyone unhappy with performance on this plan can
> upgrade to Beyond.
> Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 15GB of
> full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still won't protect
> you from video throttling.
> This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No matter
> what
> plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered unlimited data plan or
> a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - Verizon is taking a tighter grip
> over video streaming. "Moving forward, HD video on all legacy plans will
> also match Beyond Unlimited's HD quality."
> So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming on
> phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
> The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p and
> higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which are
> clearly
> ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
> Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and
> YouTube-specific
> throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's unclear whether this will
> help if the company is limiting the bandwidth of all video. The new limits
> kick in tomorrow for new customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it
> seems we won't have to wait long before we find out.
>
> Original Article at:
> https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/
>
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Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p on iPhones

[M. Taylor]

9to5Mac - Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 4:29 AM
Verizon permanently throttling video on all unlimited plans, as low as 480p
on iPhones
 
We noted last month that Verizon was throttling Netflix and YouTube usage
for 'unlimited' plan users even before they hit the 22GB level at which the
company says it may reduce bandwidth - and it has now been revealed that
this was just stage one.
Verizon is now starting to throttle all video on its 'unlimited' plans, with
bandwidth limited to as little as 480p when watching on a smartphone .
 
As The Verge reports, Verizon is splitting out its so-called unlimited plan
into three versions.
.   Go Unlimited: $75/month. Video capped to 480p on smartphones, 720p
on tablets.
.   Beyond Unlimited: $85/month. Video capped to 720p on smartphones,
1080p on tablets.
.   Business Unlimited: Price varies. Video capped to 480p on
smartphones, 720p on tablets.
Not only this, but unlike the previous plan which allowed the carrier to
reduce your data speeds after 22GB in one month, small-print in the basic Go
Unlimited plan lets Verizon do so any time there is network congestion - aka
the company not providing enough bandwidth to meet customer needs. The
company does say than anyone unhappy with performance on this plan can
upgrade to Beyond.
Existing customers can keep their current plan, and you'll also get 15GB of
full-speed LTE hotspot usage (up from 10GB) - but that still won't protect
you from video throttling.
This is what's likely going to enrage Verizon customers most. No matter what
plan you're on - whether it's the old, grandfathered unlimited data plan or
a tiered plan or the new unlimited plan - Verizon is taking a tighter grip
over video streaming. "Moving forward, HD video on all legacy plans will
also match Beyond Unlimited's HD quality."
So you'll soon be limited to a maximum video quality of 720p streaming on
phones and 1080p if you've got a tablet on your plan.
The company claims that nobody can tell the difference between 720p and
higher on a phone and 1080p and better on a tablet, claims which are clearly
ridiculous on an iPhone and iPad.
Customers were able to circumvent the previous Netflix- and YouTube-specific
throttling by using a compatible VPN, but it's unclear whether this will
help if the company is limiting the bandwidth of all video. The new limits
kick in tomorrow for new customers, and 'soon' for existing ones, so it
seems we won't have to wait long before we find out.

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/08/22/verizon-unlimited-video-throttling/


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RE: Tek Talk for 2/20/17 at 8pm Eastern - Mark Taylor and the use of Twitter with iPhones, other smart phones, etc.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

 That's today my time guessing the time will be either late tomorrow or early 
tomorrow morning.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, 20 February 2017 12:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tek Talk for 2/20/17 at 8pm Eastern - Mark Taylor and the use of 
Twitter with iPhones, other smart phones, etc.

Hello Everyone,

Tomorrow, Monday, February 20, 2017, I will be discussing Twitter on Tech Talk. 
An access technology forum.

I will paste in the info for the show below my signature.

I hope to see you there.

Mark

NEWSWIRE: MONDAY, February 20, 2017, featuring Mark Taylor and the use of 
Twitter, 5PM, PAC and 8 PM EST, in the PAT PRICE ROOM:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

Mark Taylor, who is a former manager of new technology at UCLA and who is also 
the moderator of both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries support groups, is a 
longtime access technology enthusiast who has served as a beta tester for many 
popular smart phone products including iOS, Windows Mobile, Android, TV Guide 
Mobile, AT&T Wireless, 1-Password Pro, and the CVS Pharmacy mobile app.  Mark 
is also both a certified Unified English Braille transcriber and proofreader.  
You may contact Mark on Twitter.  His Twitter handle is @MarkMarcus.

Outline of Twitter Topics to Cover:

1. What is Twitter/A brief history including SMS.
2. The difference between Twitter and Facebook, when following someone.
3. Which Twitter app to download and on which platform.
4. Getting Help with Twitter.
5. The Twitter Timeline.
6. Using Twitter leverage/Getting better customer service from companies.
7. Twitter Handles.
8. How to find someone on Twitter.
9. Using Twitter Hash Tags.
10. Using Twitter Moments.

Co-Chair, Ken Metz
Email: kenmetz1...@gmail.com

Co-Chair: Alan Lemly
Email: wale...@gmail.com

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Approximately 15 minutes prior to the event start time: Go to The Pat Price Tek 
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Tek Talk for 2/20/17 at 8pm Eastern - Mark Taylor and the use of Twitter with iPhones, other smart phones, etc.

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Tomorrow, Monday, February 20, 2017, I will be discussing Twitter on Tech
Talk. An access technology forum.

I will paste in the info for the show below my signature.

I hope to see you there.

Mark

NEWSWIRE: MONDAY, February 20, 2017, featuring Mark Taylor and the use of
Twitter, 5PM, PAC and 8 PM EST, in the PAT PRICE ROOM:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

Mark Taylor, who is a former manager of new technology at UCLA and who is
also the moderator of both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries support groups,
is a longtime access technology enthusiast who has served as a beta tester
for many popular smart phone products including iOS, Windows Mobile,
Android, TV Guide Mobile, AT&T Wireless, 1-Password Pro, and the CVS
Pharmacy mobile app.  Mark is also both a certified Unified English Braille
transcriber and proofreader.  You may contact Mark on Twitter.  His Twitter
handle is @MarkMarcus.

Outline of Twitter Topics to Cover:

1. What is Twitter/A brief history including SMS.
2. The difference between Twitter and Facebook, when following someone.
3. Which Twitter app to download and on which platform.
4. Getting Help with Twitter.
5. The Twitter Timeline.
6. Using Twitter leverage/Getting better customer service from companies.
7. Twitter Handles.
8. How to find someone on Twitter.
9. Using Twitter Hash Tags.
10. Using Twitter Moments.

Co-Chair, Ken Metz
Email: kenmetz1...@gmail.com

Co-Chair: Alan Lemly
Email: wale...@gmail.com

Date: Monday, February 20, 2017
Time: 5:00 p.m. Pacific, 6:00 p.m. Mountain, 7:00 p.m. Central, 8:00 p.m.
Eastern and elsewhere in the world Tuesday 01:00 GMT

Approximately 15 minutes prior to the event start time: Go to The Pat Price
Tek Talk Training Room at:
http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

Or, alternatively.

Select The Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room at: www.accessibleworld.org
Enter your first and last names on the sign-in screen.

All Tek Talk training events are recorded so if you are unable to
participate live at the above times, then you may download the presentation
or podcast from the Tek Talk Archives on our website at
www.accessibleworld.org

If you are a first-time user of the Talking Communities Online Conferencing
software, there is a small, safe software program that you need to download
and then run. A link to the software is available on every entry screen to
the Accessible World online rooms.

All online interactive programs are free of charge, and open to anyone
worldwide having an Internet connection, a computer, speakers, and a sound
card. Those with microphones can interact audibly with the presenters and
others in the virtual audience or text chat with the attendees. To speak to
us, hold down the control key until you hear a chirp and then talk; then let
up to release the microphone and listen.
 
Accessible World uses News Wires, like this one, to inform people of the
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lists are announced only to keep the traffic to a minimum.

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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Scott Granados]

I can confirm the restore process is still used to unlock.  I’m not sure what 
3rd party houses do to unlock but you’re absolutely right with the carriers.  
When you satisfy your payment plan the carrier updates Apple and the database 
is updated.  You restore the phone and when it reboots the first thing that 
pops up is the phone has been unlocked.  This is the reason there’s a 24 hour 
turn around to unlock iPhones.  Other phones like the Galaxy line can simply be 
unlocked with a pin.


 


> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
> 
> What do you guys think is the easiest way to verify with any given
> phone if its unlocked or not?  I know you can swap in say a TMO sim,
> but I can't believe there is not an easier way?
> 
> I've sceen some  EMEI lookups but often you have to pay to look up the
> lock status.
> 
> And also for the unlock to process, say if it is locked, do you still
> have to restore it in iTunes?  That seems like a conveluded process?
> 
> Also I am curious what these companies do literally behind the scenes
> when you pay for an unlock, somehow they get the Apple database to
> reflect that the EMEI is an unlocked device, but I would be dying to
> know how they actually do that?  I think once I used one of these
> companys, Chronic Unlocks, and got a locked phone unlocked for about
> $50 or less.
> 
> Best,
> Mika
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/14/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> In my case I ordered from T-Mo so it’s coming out of Kentucky but that’s a
>> great bit of info to know how to find tracking with out the tracking number.
>> I didn’t know that about the order number or phone number.  I have a 1Z
>> tracking number in my case but that’s great to know.  Thanks for posting
>> that.
>> 
>> Also, AT&T phones are locked by default but if you’re fully paid they should
>> unlock for you.
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you pay the full retail price for an AT&T phone, I'm not sure if
>>> its unlocked?
>>> 
>>> Also even when your order on apple.com shows "preparing for shipment"
>>> you may be able to track the package before Apple updates your order
>>> with a tracking#.
>>> 
>>> Go to:
>>> http://ups.com
>>> click on tracking
>>> click on the track by reference tab
>>> then in the reference number field write down either (you will have to
>>> test various combinations) either
>>> 1.  The 10 digit telephone number associated with your order.  This
>>> may either be your cell# or another number that you may have in your
>>> Apple contact record i.e. a home or work phone;
>>> 2.  Your Apple order# starting with W but minus the last 2 characters;
>>> 3.  The serial number for your new phone which you can find under your
>>> Apple profile.
>>> 
>>> Then pick your country and destination zip code, leaving the date
>>> fields as they are.
>>> 
>>> My package shows an origin scan in Shanghai, China as of 09/12, with
>>> still an estimated delivery of 09/16.  But still no "departure scan"
>>> out of Shanghai.
>>> 
>>> Also you may need a UPS My Choice account login in order to get the
>>> full tracking detail, but this is a great service to have if you get a
>>> lot of packages.
>>> 
>>> There is also a Flight Aware page where you can try to track your UPS
>>> flight from China.  Apparently the "departure time" you see out of
>>> Shanghai corresponds to the departure time of a UPS flight typically
>>> from Shanghai to ANC.
>>> 
>>> I've tweeted a more in depth article on this at:
>>> http://twitter.com/pyyhkala
>>> @pyyhkala
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Mika
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>>> Out right unlocked I don’t believe so.  Verizon phones are of course
>>>> unlocked by default and the T-Mobile phone would be if you pay in full
>>>> which
>>>> you do with Apple but there’s a caveat here.  the T-Mobile version has
>>>> an
>>>> Intel modem which does not support CDMA so if you wanted to use this
>>>> phone
>>>> on Sprint it’s a big no go.  If you’re only a GSM guy that’s one way to
>>>> go,
>>>> by the T-Mo version and use that, wait for the unlocked version that
>>>> supports all the protocols and or buy the verizon version which is
>>>> unlocked
>>>> and CDMA ready today.  Th

Re: iPhones are shipping

[Mika Pyyhkala]

What do you guys think is the easiest way to verify with any given
phone if its unlocked or not?  I know you can swap in say a TMO sim,
but I can't believe there is not an easier way?

I've sceen some  EMEI lookups but often you have to pay to look up the
lock status.

And also for the unlock to process, say if it is locked, do you still
have to restore it in iTunes?  That seems like a conveluded process?

Also I am curious what these companies do literally behind the scenes
when you pay for an unlock, somehow they get the Apple database to
reflect that the EMEI is an unlocked device, but I would be dying to
know how they actually do that?  I think once I used one of these
companys, Chronic Unlocks, and got a locked phone unlocked for about
$50 or less.

Best,
Mika



On 9/14/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> In my case I ordered from T-Mo so it’s coming out of Kentucky but that’s a
> great bit of info to know how to find tracking with out the tracking number.
>  I didn’t know that about the order number or phone number.  I have a 1Z
> tracking number in my case but that’s great to know.  Thanks for posting
> that.
>
> Also, AT&T phones are locked by default but if you’re fully paid they should
> unlock for you.
>
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
>>
>> If you pay the full retail price for an AT&T phone, I'm not sure if
>> its unlocked?
>>
>> Also even when your order on apple.com shows "preparing for shipment"
>> you may be able to track the package before Apple updates your order
>> with a tracking#.
>>
>> Go to:
>> http://ups.com
>> click on tracking
>> click on the track by reference tab
>> then in the reference number field write down either (you will have to
>> test various combinations) either
>> 1.  The 10 digit telephone number associated with your order.  This
>> may either be your cell# or another number that you may have in your
>> Apple contact record i.e. a home or work phone;
>> 2.  Your Apple order# starting with W but minus the last 2 characters;
>> 3.  The serial number for your new phone which you can find under your
>> Apple profile.
>>
>> Then pick your country and destination zip code, leaving the date
>> fields as they are.
>>
>> My package shows an origin scan in Shanghai, China as of 09/12, with
>> still an estimated delivery of 09/16.  But still no "departure scan"
>> out of Shanghai.
>>
>> Also you may need a UPS My Choice account login in order to get the
>> full tracking detail, but this is a great service to have if you get a
>> lot of packages.
>>
>> There is also a Flight Aware page where you can try to track your UPS
>> flight from China.  Apparently the "departure time" you see out of
>> Shanghai corresponds to the departure time of a UPS flight typically
>> from Shanghai to ANC.
>>
>> I've tweeted a more in depth article on this at:
>> http://twitter.com/pyyhkala
>> @pyyhkala
>>
>> Best,
>> Mika
>>
>>
>> On 9/14/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> Out right unlocked I don’t believe so.  Verizon phones are of course
>>> unlocked by default and the T-Mobile phone would be if you pay in full
>>> which
>>> you do with Apple but there’s a caveat here.  the T-Mobile version has
>>> an
>>> Intel modem which does not support CDMA so if you wanted to use this
>>> phone
>>> on Sprint it’s a big no go.  If you’re only a GSM guy that’s one way to
>>> go,
>>> by the T-Mo version and use that, wait for the unlocked version that
>>> supports all the protocols and or buy the verizon version which is
>>> unlocked
>>> and CDMA ready today.  The CDMA version uses a Qualcomm chip in case
>>> you’re
>>> curious.  Qualcomm owns the rights to CDMA and Intel bought a company
>>> with
>>> licensing but their CDMA code isn’t ready until the end of next year.
>>>
>>> THat’s the history, normally they are all the same hardware.
>>>
 On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Kliphton Miller 
 wrote:

 Is apple selling unlocked devices on launch day?  I know they did it
 for
 the SE, but that is no way as popular as the iPhone7.
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
>
> Of course, will tweet it as well.
>
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>
>> I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+
>>> in
>>> my hands tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube
>>> unboxing and demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get
>>> in
>>> on the pre release day hits.  Now to figure out how to get
>>> Redmondpie
>>> and the like to repost.:)
>>>
>>> Anyway, for folks preordering, phones are shipping!
>>>
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Scott Granados]

In my case I ordered from T-Mo so it’s coming out of Kentucky but that’s a 
great bit of info to know how to find tracking with out the tracking number.  I 
didn’t know that about the order number or phone number.  I have a 1Z tracking 
number in my case but that’s great to know.  Thanks for posting that.

Also, AT&T phones are locked by default but if you’re fully paid they should 
unlock for you. 

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Mika Pyyhkala  wrote:
> 
> If you pay the full retail price for an AT&T phone, I'm not sure if
> its unlocked?
> 
> Also even when your order on apple.com shows "preparing for shipment"
> you may be able to track the package before Apple updates your order
> with a tracking#.
> 
> Go to:
> http://ups.com
> click on tracking
> click on the track by reference tab
> then in the reference number field write down either (you will have to
> test various combinations) either
> 1.  The 10 digit telephone number associated with your order.  This
> may either be your cell# or another number that you may have in your
> Apple contact record i.e. a home or work phone;
> 2.  Your Apple order# starting with W but minus the last 2 characters;
> 3.  The serial number for your new phone which you can find under your
> Apple profile.
> 
> Then pick your country and destination zip code, leaving the date
> fields as they are.
> 
> My package shows an origin scan in Shanghai, China as of 09/12, with
> still an estimated delivery of 09/16.  But still no "departure scan"
> out of Shanghai.
> 
> Also you may need a UPS My Choice account login in order to get the
> full tracking detail, but this is a great service to have if you get a
> lot of packages.
> 
> There is also a Flight Aware page where you can try to track your UPS
> flight from China.  Apparently the "departure time" you see out of
> Shanghai corresponds to the departure time of a UPS flight typically
> from Shanghai to ANC.
> 
> I've tweeted a more in depth article on this at:
> http://twitter.com/pyyhkala
> @pyyhkala
> 
> Best,
> Mika
> 
> 
> On 9/14/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> Out right unlocked I don’t believe so.  Verizon phones are of course
>> unlocked by default and the T-Mobile phone would be if you pay in full which
>> you do with Apple but there’s a caveat here.  the T-Mobile version has an
>> Intel modem which does not support CDMA so if you wanted to use this phone
>> on Sprint it’s a big no go.  If you’re only a GSM guy that’s one way to go,
>> by the T-Mo version and use that, wait for the unlocked version that
>> supports all the protocols and or buy the verizon version which is unlocked
>> and CDMA ready today.  The CDMA version uses a Qualcomm chip in case you’re
>> curious.  Qualcomm owns the rights to CDMA and Intel bought a company with
>> licensing but their CDMA code isn’t ready until the end of next year.
>> 
>> THat’s the history, normally they are all the same hardware.
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Kliphton Miller 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is apple selling unlocked devices on launch day?  I know they did it for
>>> the SE, but that is no way as popular as the iPhone7.
 On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Scott Granados 
 wrote:
 
 Of course, will tweet it as well.
 
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+ in
>> my hands tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube
>> unboxing and demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in
>> on the pre release day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie
>> and the like to repost.:)
>> 
>> Anyway, for folks preordering, phones are shipping!
>> 
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Mika Pyyhkala]

If you pay the full retail price for an AT&T phone, I'm not sure if
its unlocked?

Also even when your order on apple.com shows "preparing for shipment"
you may be able to track the package before Apple updates your order
with a tracking#.

Go to:
http://ups.com
click on tracking
click on the track by reference tab
then in the reference number field write down either (you will have to
test various combinations) either
1.  The 10 digit telephone number associated with your order.  This
may either be your cell# or another number that you may have in your
Apple contact record i.e. a home or work phone;
2.  Your Apple order# starting with W but minus the last 2 characters;
3.  The serial number for your new phone which you can find under your
Apple profile.

Then pick your country and destination zip code, leaving the date
fields as they are.

My package shows an origin scan in Shanghai, China as of 09/12, with
still an estimated delivery of 09/16.  But still no "departure scan"
out of Shanghai.

Also you may need a UPS My Choice account login in order to get the
full tracking detail, but this is a great service to have if you get a
lot of packages.

There is also a Flight Aware page where you can try to track your UPS
flight from China.  Apparently the "departure time" you see out of
Shanghai corresponds to the departure time of a UPS flight typically
from Shanghai to ANC.

I've tweeted a more in depth article on this at:
http://twitter.com/pyyhkala
@pyyhkala

Best,
Mika


On 9/14/16, Scott Granados  wrote:
> Out right unlocked I don’t believe so.  Verizon phones are of course
> unlocked by default and the T-Mobile phone would be if you pay in full which
> you do with Apple but there’s a caveat here.  the T-Mobile version has an
> Intel modem which does not support CDMA so if you wanted to use this phone
> on Sprint it’s a big no go.  If you’re only a GSM guy that’s one way to go,
> by the T-Mo version and use that, wait for the unlocked version that
> supports all the protocols and or buy the verizon version which is unlocked
> and CDMA ready today.  The CDMA version uses a Qualcomm chip in case you’re
> curious.  Qualcomm owns the rights to CDMA and Intel bought a company with
> licensing but their CDMA code isn’t ready until the end of next year.
>
> THat’s the history, normally they are all the same hardware.
>
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Kliphton Miller 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is apple selling unlocked devices on launch day?  I know they did it for
>> the SE, but that is no way as popular as the iPhone7.
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Scott Granados 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course, will tweet it as well.
>>>
 On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

 I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+ in
> my hands tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube
> unboxing and demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in
> on the pre release day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie
> and the like to repost.:)
>
> Anyway, for folks preordering, phones are shipping!
>
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Scott Granados]

Out right unlocked I don’t believe so.  Verizon phones are of course unlocked 
by default and the T-Mobile phone would be if you pay in full which you do with 
Apple but there’s a caveat here.  the T-Mobile version has an Intel modem which 
does not support CDMA so if you wanted to use this phone on Sprint it’s a big 
no go.  If you’re only a GSM guy that’s one way to go, by the T-Mo version and 
use that, wait for the unlocked version that supports all the protocols and or 
buy the verizon version which is unlocked and CDMA ready today.  The CDMA 
version uses a Qualcomm chip in case you’re curious.  Qualcomm owns the rights 
to CDMA and Intel bought a company with licensing but their CDMA code isn’t 
ready until the end of next year.

THat’s the history, normally they are all the same hardware.

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> Is apple selling unlocked devices on launch day?  I know they did it for the 
> SE, but that is no way as popular as the iPhone7.
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> Of course, will tweet it as well.
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
 
 
 
 Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+ in my 
 hands tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube unboxing 
 and demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in on the pre 
 release day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie and the like to 
 repost.:)
 
 Anyway, for folks preordering, phones are shipping!
 
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Kliphton Miller]

Is apple selling unlocked devices on launch day?  I know they did it for the 
SE, but that is no way as popular as the iPhone7.
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Of course, will tweet it as well.
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+ in my 
>>> hands tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube unboxing 
>>> and demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in on the pre 
>>> release day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie and the like to 
>>> repost.:)
>>> 
>>> Anyway, for folks preordering, phones are shipping!
>>> 
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Scott Granados]

Mary, you picked the single most popular version.  That black 128 GB is selling 
like crack laced hotcakes which is pretty good considering unadulterated 
hotcakes are already good sellers.:)

T-Mobile is totally crushed under the weight of orders.  You can’t even pull 
your order status right now, I just received the tracking number via email 
though so I know I’m up.:)  I tried to call them last night when they finally 
charged my card I tried to call in to see if they were really starting to ship 
and the hold time was 2.5 hours.  I’ve never seen it this busy, even during 
outages.  People started lining up outside the Apple store on 5th avenue 20 
days ago and the line is stretching for blocks.  Apple has a hit it seems.  (9 
out of 9)


> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Unless you ordered the Matt black like I did, and apparently everybody else 
> ordering from T-Mobile did too. Just kidding, although they did say it was 
> the most popular color. Who'd of thought? I will be very curious once these 
> phones start rolling out, how people do or do not like the new home button.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> 
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>> and demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in on the pre 
>> release day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie and the like to 
>> repost.:)
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Scott Granados]

Of course, will tweet it as well.

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Donna Goodin]

I assume you'll send us a link to the Youtube unboxing???
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> 
> 
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> day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie and the like to repost.:)
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Re: iPhones are shipping

[Mary Otten]

Unless you ordered the Matt black like I did, and apparently everybody else 
ordering from T-Mobile did too. Just kidding, although they did say it was the 
most popular color. Who'd of thought? I will be very curious once these phones 
start rolling out, how people do or do not like the new home button.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> 
> 
> Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+ in my 
> hands tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube unboxing and 
> demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in on the pre release 
> day hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie and the like to repost.:)
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iPhones are shipping

[Scott Granados]

Just got my t-mobile notification of overnight shipping, iPhone 7+ in my hands 
tomorrow morning.  You can believe there will be a youtube unboxing and 
demonstration done as soon as it arrives so I can get in on the pre release day 
hits.  Now to figure out how to get Redmondpie and the like to repost.:)

Anyway, for folks preordering, phones are shipping!

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Re: Apple's iOS 10 update goes wrong on some iPhones

[Scott Granados]

There’s also a fix on redmond pie if you have a bricked phone as a result of 
the update.

> On Sep 13, 2016, at 8:04 PM, BBS  wrote:
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> Apple says that the issue is fixed so this is old news.
> 
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RE: Apple's iOS 10 update goes wrong on some iPhones

[BBS]

Apple says that the issue is fixed so this is old news.


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Apple's iOS 10 update goes wrong on some iPhones

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Re: New iPhones

[Scott Granados]

Ok, so I would challenge anyone to demonstrate how 64 bit really changed that 
much in regards to the use and performance of the phones.

The bit depth thing is really over stated.  The primary advantage of a 64 bit 
word over a 32 bit word is that 64 bit systems can address far more memory 
simultaneously.  This is great for example if you do things like large 
computing or have larger servers like we use at my job that have over a TByte 
of RAM.  Your phone though has nothing like this.  You have a few gigabytes of 
ram, 128 gigabytes at most of flash storage and not much else.  The power in a 
small form factor of a phone is remarkable but it’s nothing compared to what 
64bit is actually designed for.  You also get the advantage of more bytes per 
word but this assumes you’re using code optimized to take advantage of this.  
Chris to your points, you’re pretty much right.  In general though 
loading 32 bit code on a 64 bit processor is no problem at all, you just use 
half the available bits in the word.  The problems you’re thinking of are the 
result of bad or tricky software design.:)  Windows was known for having 
problems with 32 bit code where other operating systems this was never a 
concern.  However, if you get passed that layer of abstraction and to the OS 
level as long as the compilation is good there won’t be any problems.  You can 
run something compiled for 32 bit on a 64 bit cpu with no issues.  Just 
distinguishing that the limitation you pointed out is more software induced 
than at the hardware level where the original poster was going.

If you ask me I’d rather have a 32, 16 or even 8 bit processor in my phone if 
the code was written much more tightly and cleanly.  It might be a result of my 
age but I was always told to write the code as tight and lean as possible for 
the best performance.  With all the increases in hardware over the years in my 
humble opinion software and environments have gotten sloppy in some cases and 
bloated in many.  Remember, the command module of the Apolo space craft only 
had about 32K of storage.
:)


just my $.02


> On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Sort a.
> 
> Remember:  64 bit sometimes can be backward compatible.  Let me be very 
> clear.  I didn't say it always! can be, but sometimes depending on 
> circumstances, it can be.  So, theoretically, you probably could get away 
> still with running some things that were designed more for x86 platform.  It 
> really just depends.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
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> To: "macvisionaries" 
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:01 AM
> Subject: New iPhones
> 
> 
> Hi all
> If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
> discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
> for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. Theoretically, 
> this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. To my knowledge, 
> 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the new iPod Touch is 
> now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.
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Re: New iPhones

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Sort a.

Remember:  64 bit sometimes can be backward compatible.  Let me be very 
clear.  I didn't say it always! can be, but sometimes depending on 
circumstances, it can be.  So, theoretically, you probably could get away 
still with running some things that were designed more for x86 platform.  It 
really just depends.


Chris.

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To: "macvisionaries" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:01 AM
Subject: New iPhones


Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. 
Theoretically, this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. 
To my knowledge, 32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the 
new iPod Touch is now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.


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New iPhones

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi all
If what I read on Mac Daily News about the lack of an iPhone 6C plus the 
discontinuation of the 5C is true, this year will be a very significant year 
for iPhone owners. Why? All iPhones from the 5s up are 64 bit. Theoretically, 
this means 32 bit is dead as far as the iPhone is concerned. To my knowledge, 
32 bit is dead throughout the iOS device range as even the new iPod Touch is 
now 64 bit. I say good riddance to 32 bit! RIP.

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Re: Future iPhones could be squeezable and foldable according to new Apple patent | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail

[Devin Prater]

I'd be so afraid I'd broken it. Either that or I'd acquired great strength, 
lol. But I could see that being rather useful for people that uh, like to sit 
down with their iPhone in their back pocket. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> Wow, that sounds wild as ever.
> 
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>> 
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Re: Future iPhones could be squeezable and foldable according to new Apple patent | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail

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Oh cool.

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Re: Future iPhones could be squeezable and foldable according to new Apple patent | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail

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Rather than using the share option from the webpage itself, I used safaris 
share option to share the link to Facebook at the very bottom. I hope this 
helps.

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Re: Future iPhones could be squeezable and foldable according to new Apple patent | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail

[Jessica Moss]

Anyone else having an issue with sharing this site on Facebook?  I  lick that 
and it gives me this image with a bunch of numbers.
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Future iPhones could be squeezable and foldable according to new Apple patent | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail

[Jessica Moss]

Wow, that sounds wild as ever.

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Future iPhones could be squeezable and foldable according to new Apple patent | The latest news from the Computer and IT Industry | PC Retail

[Barry Hadder]

Thought the list might find the link below interesting.

Barry Hadder
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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

[Shawn Krasniuk]

At any rate, Eleanor, if you want to subscribe to an iPhone list, there's 
ViPhone. you can subscribe at viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
. Also, Klyphton's mailing list is 
pretty good. It talks about both iPhone and Mac. You can subscribe at 
peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
. Peel the Apple is pretty 
good. They have people available for Skype if you have any problems with your 
iPhone/Mac. Hope some of these lists help.

Shawn
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> On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:49 PM, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   Oh wonderful is this how the new year begins? (smiles) I see no indication 
> that any topic has been hijecked. Why lose sleep over nothing? The delete key 
> can help sometimes because there are issues much worse than mere hijecking, 
> which I will not go into.
> 
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> 
> On 1/2/2015 3:36 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
>> I was replying to a new thread, not a highjacked thread as far as I can tell.
>> Happy new year to you too.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 3/01/2015, at 12:08 pm, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Recently, there was a thread on hijacking a topic. Now, please tell me 
>>> which topic this is: bootcamp issues or an iOS 6 vs. 6 plus decision? Where 
>>> are the monitors on this? It's very disconcerting to think I'll be reading 
>>> numerous threads on bootcamp and find that there's a totally different 
>>> topic being discussed.
>>> 
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Eleanor,
 I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so 
 don't need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus 
 way too big for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life 
 on the 6 plus is significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an 
 incentive for me to buy it - I just don't want such a monster sized phone.
 I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both 
 phones work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you 
 want the extra size, better battery life and bigger price tag.
 
 Lisette
 
> On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
> have got 2 quick questions for you.
> 
> Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can 
> anyone who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is 
> better from a VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 
> (apart from the obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any 
> significant problems with either of them?
> 
> Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
> devices??
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Eleanor
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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

[The Believer]

   Oh wonderful is this how the new year begins? (smiles) I see no 
indication that any topic has been hijecked. Why lose sleep over 
nothing? The delete key can help sometimes because there are issues much 
worse than mere hijecking, which I will not go into.


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On 1/2/2015 3:36 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

I was replying to a new thread, not a highjacked thread as far as I can tell.
Happy new year to you too.

Lisette


On 3/01/2015, at 12:08 pm, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Recently, there was a thread on hijacking a topic. Now, please tell me which 
topic this is: bootcamp issues or an iOS 6 vs. 6 plus decision? Where are the 
monitors on this? It's very disconcerting to think I'll be reading numerous 
threads on bootcamp and find that there's a totally different topic being 
discussed.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

Hi Eleanor,
I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too big 
for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 plus is 
significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me to buy it - 
I just don't want such a monster sized phone.
I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the extra 
size, better battery life and bigger price tag.

Lisette


On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts  
wrote:

Hi all

My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but have 
got 2 quick questions for you.

Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can anyone 
who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is better from a VI 
perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 (apart from the 
obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any significant problems with 
either of them?

Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
devices??

Thanks.

Eleanor

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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

[Lisette Wesseling]

I was replying to a new thread, not a highjacked thread as far as I can tell.
Happy new year to you too.

Lisette

> On 3/01/2015, at 12:08 pm, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Recently, there was a thread on hijacking a topic. Now, please tell me which 
> topic this is: bootcamp issues or an iOS 6 vs. 6 plus decision? Where are the 
> monitors on this? It's very disconcerting to think I'll be reading numerous 
> threads on bootcamp and find that there's a totally different topic being 
> discussed. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eleanor,
>> I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
>> need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too 
>> big for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 
>> plus is significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me 
>> to buy it - I just don't want such a monster sized phone. 
>> I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
>> work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the 
>> extra size, better battery life and bigger price tag.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all 
>>> 
>>> My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
>>> have got 2 quick questions for you. 
>>> 
>>> Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can 
>>> anyone who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is 
>>> better from a VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 
>>> (apart from the obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any 
>>> significant problems with either of them? 
>>> 
>>> Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
>>> devices?? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> Eleanor 
>>> 
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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

[Eileen Misrahi]

Recently, there was a thread on hijacking a topic. Now, please tell me which 
topic this is: bootcamp issues or an iOS 6 vs. 6 plus decision? Where are the 
monitors on this? It's very disconcerting to think I'll be reading numerous 
threads on bootcamp and find that there's a totally different topic being 
discussed. 

Eileen 

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> On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eleanor,
> I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
> need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too 
> big for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 
> plus is significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me 
> to buy it - I just don't want such a monster sized phone. 
> I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
> work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the 
> extra size, better battery life and bigger price tag.
> 
> Lisette
> 
>> On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
>> have got 2 quick questions for you. 
>> 
>> Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can anyone 
>> who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is better from a 
>> VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 (apart from the 
>> obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any significant problems 
>> with either of them? 
>> 
>> Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
>> devices?? 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi Eleanor,
I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too big 
for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 plus is 
significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me to buy it - 
I just don't want such a monster sized phone. 
I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the extra 
size, better battery life and bigger price tag.

Lisette

> On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
> have got 2 quick questions for you. 
> 
> Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can anyone 
> who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is better from a 
> VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 (apart from the 
> obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any significant problems with 
> either of them? 
> 
> Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
> devices?? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
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