Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Not overturned... Judge temporarily stayed. Waiting for decision in another case. Which may invalidate Samsung's claim. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hi guys. I'm a little confused here. Today I got an email with a link stating that Samsung's lawsuit against Apple for Voiceover was overturned. Now I don't know what to believe, is it overturned like this link says or is it stayed like the rest of the internet says it is. Here's the link. http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/02/22/samsung-patent-lawsuit-would-have-left-blind-iphone-users-in-dark/ Shawn Sent from my white MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
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Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
But it is not about accessibility. Samsung is not concered about giving us a quality accessibility experience. They probably wouldn't know the first thing about how to and likely don't care to either. It is about just another patten they can use as a weapon. do you honestly think they are fighting for our little nitch market share? Then consider ontop of that they do not offer a good competing screen reader experience at all. No one should be allowed to cornor the screen reader experience so that they would be the only company that could offer it. I sure hope any judges realize and act appropriately on such a concept. YThis is a hue threat to us and could be extremely damaging to us in what it could be carried out to. I am quite concerned and really angry that Samsung wants to sacrifice us in their selfish plan of attack against Apple. Even thinking of Samsung making a single penny and doing this to us results in raging anger and hate towards them. Mostly I am concerned about the possible end result of our accessibility being sacrificed and selfish people pulling the strings that don't care one bit. On 2/26/13, Cheree Heppe wrote: > Cheree Heppe here > It's about market share and accessibility, not childs play at all. > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > Sent from my IPhone 4S > > On 26/02/2013, at 10:27, Carlene Knight wrote: > > If they would stop fighting like a couple of spoiled, bratty children, the > problem would be solved as well. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash >> and simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). >> that would solve a number of problems all at once. >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: >> >>> In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I >>> thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it >>> was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is >>> about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things >>> on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that >>> Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for >>> accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are >>> completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can >>> only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it >>> exactly what it is. >>> >>> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html >>> >>> "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect >>> its investment >>> in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as >>> a tactical >>> weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain >>> scenarios. >>> For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for >>> hearing aids, >>> it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related >>> patents against >>> each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent >>> enforcement in >>> cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested >>> monetary compensation >>> in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying >>> to achieve, >>> through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more >>> realistically) degradation >>> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. >>> In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who >>> report on and >>> care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I >>> completely understand >>> why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit >>> like this one. >>> Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western >>> hemisphere. >>> In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this >>> type of issue >>> than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it >>> should give >>> more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions >>> against Apple." >>> >>> On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the fact that it does not even control something that is equal in functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your product sucks! On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: > Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought > one > of > their products, the Intrepid pho
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Cheree Heppe here It's about market share and accessibility, not childs play at all. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my IPhone 4S On 26/02/2013, at 10:27, Carlene Knight wrote: If they would stop fighting like a couple of spoiled, bratty children, the problem would be solved as well. Sent from my iPad On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and > simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would > solve a number of problems all at once. > > -eric > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I >> thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it >> was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is >> about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things >> on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that >> Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for >> accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are >> completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can >> only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it >> exactly what it is. >> >> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html >> >> "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect >> its investment >> in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as >> a tactical >> weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain >> scenarios. >> For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for >> hearing aids, >> it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related >> patents against >> each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent >> enforcement in >> cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested >> monetary compensation >> in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying >> to achieve, >> through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more >> realistically) degradation >> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. >> In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who >> report on and >> care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I >> completely understand >> why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit >> like this one. >> Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western >> hemisphere. >> In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this >> type of issue >> than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should >> give >> more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions >> against Apple." >> >> On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: >>> So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the >>> excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the >>> fact that it does not even control something that is equal in >>> functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. >>> This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have >>> an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they >>> do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a >>> worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by >>> the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your >>> product sucks! >>> >>> On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it crashing, which was upsetting to me. So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait anymore. So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. > Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real > interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are > willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This > childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
If they would stop fighting like a couple of spoiled, bratty children, the problem would be solved as well. Sent from my iPad On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and > simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would > solve a number of problems all at once. > > -eric > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I >> thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it >> was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is >> about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things >> on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that >> Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for >> accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are >> completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can >> only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it >> exactly what it is. >> >> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html >> >> "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect >> its investment >> in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as >> a tactical >> weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain >> scenarios. >> For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for >> hearing aids, >> it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related >> patents against >> each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent >> enforcement in >> cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested >> monetary compensation >> in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying >> to achieve, >> through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more >> realistically) degradation >> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. >> In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who >> report on and >> care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I >> completely understand >> why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit >> like this one. >> Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western >> hemisphere. >> In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this >> type of issue >> than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should >> give >> more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions >> against Apple." >> >> On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: >>> So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the >>> excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the >>> fact that it does not even control something that is equal in >>> functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. >>> This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have >>> an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they >>> do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a >>> worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by >>> the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your >>> product sucks! >>> >>> On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it crashing, which was upsetting to me. So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait anymore. So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. > Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real > interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are > willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This > childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until > this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning > voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything > wonderful for us at all. Yet such a
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Cheree Heppe here: Samsung plays the charity angle by supporting braille sense products and Korean guide dogs based in Sol. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my IPhone 4S On 24/02/2013, at 13:41, "J.P." wrote: I'm in U.S. too. This affects all. Theres no time limit... 215 signatures so far since post yesterday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hey P. P. This is amazing. I have a blind friend who's a little scrappy, Edison as I can, I'll send this to her. She doesn't have an iPhone yet, but she wants one. She said it was in her best interest to be on your petition. Those folks in California were real smart when they said "no comment. "They don't need to. Regards, Gigi On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:43 AM, "J.P." wrote: > Update: We have reached 450 signatures. Those of you in Europe, Asia, Africa, > S. America, et. Please pass around your countries. I have access to more in > U.S. I contacted the original writer of story, asking if he can write an > update to the story. I will keep you posted! > > J.P. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Update: We have reached 450 signatures. Those of you in Europe, Asia, Africa, S. America, et. Please pass around your countries. I have access to more in U.S. I contacted the original writer of story, asking if he can write an update to the story. I will keep you posted! J.P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hi there When I put mine in, I just put in my ZIP Code. I never put in my city. Of course, I am in the US, so I don't know if that makes any difference. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Some of us have had problems signing the petition because it will not > recognise the Town or city that we put in. I sent it to the VI phone list > and the people who tried filling the petition in could not. > > Kawal. > > On 25 Feb 2013, at 03:53 AM, BBS wrote: > >> Hi JP. I just signed your petition. I also forwarded it to my friend that >> also uses an iPhone. It's like Samsung wants us to all go back to using 3rd >> party screen readers. Well I'm not going back to that. I like my iPhone and >> I like my Mac. So yeah, I hope Samsung reads my comments in the petition. >> >> Shawn >> Sent from my white MacBook >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
I have just signed the petition and have left comments. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2013, at 03:53 AM, BBS wrote: > Hi JP. I just signed your petition. I also forwarded it to my friend that > also uses an iPhone. It's like Samsung wants us to all go back to using 3rd > party screen readers. Well I'm not going back to that. I like my iPhone and I > like my Mac. So yeah, I hope Samsung reads my comments in the petition. > > Shawn > Sent from my white MacBook > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hello All. Some of us have had problems signing the petition because it will not recognise the Town or city that we put in. I sent it to the VI phone list and the people who tried filling the petition in could not. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2013, at 03:53 AM, BBS wrote: > Hi JP. I just signed your petition. I also forwarded it to my friend that > also uses an iPhone. It's like Samsung wants us to all go back to using 3rd > party screen readers. Well I'm not going back to that. I like my iPhone and I > like my Mac. So yeah, I hope Samsung reads my comments in the petition. > > Shawn > Sent from my white MacBook > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Thank you all for supporting this effort! Update: The petition has 340 signatures. I'm going to keep pushing it. J.P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
The missing point is why they are raising the case in Germany? Not in their own country or USA? I suspect their own country doesn't have as strong IP laws. They have lost a case in the USA against Apple, so are they thinking lets use a different country outside USA to see how it floats? Who knows what laws are in their own country surrounding accessibility? Sean On 25/02/2013, at 4:03 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and > simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would > solve a number of problems all at once. > > -eric > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I >> thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it >> was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is >> about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things >> on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that >> Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for >> accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are >> completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can >> only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it >> exactly what it is. >> >> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html >> >> "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect >> its investment >> in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as >> a tactical >> weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain >> scenarios. >> For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for >> hearing aids, >> it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related >> patents against >> each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent >> enforcement in >> cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested >> monetary compensation >> in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying >> to achieve, >> through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more >> realistically) degradation >> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. >> In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who >> report on and >> care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I >> completely understand >> why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit >> like this one. >> Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western >> hemisphere. >> In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this >> type of issue >> than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should >> give >> more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions >> against Apple." >> >> On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: >>> So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the >>> excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the >>> fact that it does not even control something that is equal in >>> functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. >>> This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have >>> an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they >>> do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a >>> worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by >>> the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your >>> product sucks! >>> >>> On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it crashing, which was upsetting to me. So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait anymore. So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. > Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real > interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are > willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This > childish corru
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would solve a number of problems all at once. -eric On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I > thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it > was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is > about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things > on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that > Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for > accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are > completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can > only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it > exactly what it is. > > http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html > > "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect > its investment > in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as > a tactical > weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain > scenarios. > For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for > hearing aids, > it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related > patents against > each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent enforcement > in > cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested > monetary compensation > in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying > to achieve, > through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more > realistically) degradation > of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. > In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who > report on and > care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I > completely understand > why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit > like this one. > Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western > hemisphere. > In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this > type of issue > than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should > give > more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions > against Apple." > > On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: >> So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the >> excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the >> fact that it does not even control something that is equal in >> functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. >> This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have >> an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they >> do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a >> worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by >> the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your >> product sucks! >> >> On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: >>> Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one >>> of >>> their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after >>> problem >>> with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, >>> and >>> nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong >>> with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it >>> crashing, which was upsetting to me. >>> So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I >>> had >>> to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile >>> Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I >>> unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to >>> wait >>> anymore. >>> So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to >>> pretend >>> to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. >>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: >>> I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it weren't nothing but corruption! On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > I will of course sign. > > I will also have to say, that I
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hi JP. I just signed your petition. I also forwarded it to my friend that also uses an iPhone. It's like Samsung wants us to all go back to using 3rd party screen readers. Well I'm not going back to that. I like my iPhone and I like my Mac. So yeah, I hope Samsung reads my comments in the petition. Shawn Sent from my white MacBook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it exactly what it is. http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect its investment in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as a tactical weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain scenarios. For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for hearing aids, it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related patents against each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent enforcement in cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested monetary compensation in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying to achieve, through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more realistically) degradation of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who report on and care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I completely understand why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit like this one. Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western hemisphere. In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this type of issue than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should give more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions against Apple." On 2/24/13, James Mannion wrote: > So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the > excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the > fact that it does not even control something that is equal in > functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. > This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have > an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they > do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a > worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by > the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your > product sucks! > > On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: >> Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one >> of >> their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after >> problem >> with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, >> and >> nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong >> with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it >> crashing, which was upsetting to me. >> So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I >> had >> to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile >> Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I >> unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to >> wait >> anymore. >> So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to >> pretend >> to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: >> >>> I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. >>> Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real >>> interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are >>> willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This >>> childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until >>> this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning >>> voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything >>> wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have >>> great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it >>> weren't nothing but corruption! >>> >>> On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi. I will of course sign. I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We all ought to sign. Best regards Annie. On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello All, > > Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I > posted a petition on Change .Org
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the fact that it does not even control something that is equal in functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your product sucks! On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss wrote: > Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of > their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem > with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and > nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong > with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it > crashing, which was upsetting to me. > So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had > to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile > Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I > unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait > anymore. > So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend > to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. > On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. >> Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real >> interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are >> willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This >> childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until >> this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning >> voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything >> wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have >> great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it >> weren't nothing but corruption! >> >> On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> I will of course sign. >>> >>> I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product >>> after >>> their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. >>> We >>> all ought to sign. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Hello All, Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign. Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7 Vest, J. p. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one of their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after problem with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, and nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it crashing, which was upsetting to me. So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I had to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to wait anymore. So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to pretend to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. > Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real > interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are > willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This > childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until > this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning > voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything > wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have > great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it > weren't nothing but corruption! > > On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I will of course sign. >> >> I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after >> their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We >> all ought to sign. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I >>> posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to >>> Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know >>> their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the >>> attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for >>> PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm >>> including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign. >>> Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7 >>> >>> Vest, J. p. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it weren't nothing but corruption! On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > I will of course sign. > > I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after > their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We > all ought to sign. > > Best regards Annie. > On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Hello All, >> >> Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I >> posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to >> Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know >> their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the >> attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for >> PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm >> including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign. >> Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7 >> >> Vest, J. p. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hi. I will of course sign. I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product after their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am angry. We all ought to sign. Best regards Annie. On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello All, > > Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted > a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying > to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary > hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind > community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your > choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it > around to your friends and family to sign. Thanks for the > support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7 > > Vest, J. p. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
I'm in U.S. too. This affects all. Theres no time limit... 215 signatures so far since post yesterday. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hi there How long is this thing good for? I did it because I think it's the least I can do, even though the case is not here in the United States, at least not yet. I realize it's not an easy process, but I personally think we should get laws passed saying that companies can't mess with accessibility in this manner. This is because they are not just attacking the company they want to attack. They are doing it to their customers as well. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello All, > > Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted > a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying > to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary > hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind > community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your > choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it > around to your friends and family to sign. Thanks for the > support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7 > > Vest, J. p. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Update: We have 90 signatures so far. Keep passing on... Thanks! J.P. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
OT: Change.Org Petition Samsung Attack On Vlind
Hello All, Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know the attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug for PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm including the link. Pass it around to your friends and family to sign. Thanks for the support.http://chn.ge/XTrva7 Vest, J. p. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
