Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-11 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Cheryl,

That's a lot of useful information. My Basic was purchased as a used machine 
and is a V1 blue. They hadn't dreamed of USB ports back in those days. smiles.

This is what I got when I attempted to build the standard distribution, which 
I'm sure came from the official site:


Georginas-Mac-mini:nfbtrans gena$ mv MAKEFILE Makefile
Georginas-Mac-mini:nfbtrans gena$ make lowercase
rm *.ASM NFBTRANS *.EXE *.BAT
mv README.TXT readme.txt
mv NFBTRANS.C nfbtrans.c
mv NFBPATCH.C nfbpatch.c
mv NFBTRANS.FMT nfbtrans.fmt
mv NFBTRANS.CNF nfbtrans.cnf
mv MAKEDOC makedoc
chmod 755 makedoc
mv BRAILLE.TAB braille.tab
mv BACK.TAB back.tab
mv TABLES.ZIP tables.zip
mv TVFREQS.FMT tvfreqs.fmt
mv ENGLISH.DIC english.dic
mv SPELL.DAT spell.dat
mv MENU.CNF menu.cnf
mv BCOMP.C bcomp.c
Georginas-Mac-mini:nfbtrans gena$ make
Please specify a target by entering one of the following:
make sunos
make sunos-insight
make ultrix
make aix
make linux
make djgpp
make msvc
Georginas-Mac-mini:nfbtrans gena$ 

BTW:
All my observations are from this Mac running Mavericks 10.9.3.

HTH

Gena
On 11 Jun 2014, at 00:30, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 I thought about replying within the message but decided that might not work 
 so well for people who are trying to read fast. So I'll address each point 
 here at the top.
 
 1. My cable came with the Index basic and I didn't have to go find a prolific 
 driver and cable. Maybe that is part of what the driver and application do 
 though I do also happen to have prolific cables because of using brltty. 
 Maybe it's been fixed but from Lion on, sometimes the official prolific 
 driver caused problems; for instance, unplugging it without killing brltty 
 first caused spontaneous reboot of my computer and I learned by searching 
 online that this was not a brltty problem but was related to the prolific 
 driver's interaction with the OS. And on one of my computers, installing the 
 prolific driver did not result in a cu.usbserial or any other cu. device in 
 /dev. So I looked around online and found that somebody had done a driver, 
 though I had to directly install the kernel extension instead of just running 
 an installer. The naming ends up being different from what the official 
 driver did but it does start with a cu prefix. Btw I think that keyspan 
 cables are no longer useable at all; I have a few of those too. The change in 
 driver solved both issues. I'll post the links in case anybody needs them. 
 But because I kind of went down a rabbit trail here let me again say that the 
 cable that came with the Index Basic I have worked out of the box for me 
 along with the driver and application.
 
 PL2303 Serial USB on OSX Lion
 
 Mountain Lion PL-2303 Driver Crash Fix | The Networking Nerd
 
 
 2. Actually, I used to compile nfbtrans on my Mac in terminal just as I did 
 in linux. I didn't actually use it for embossing but it could be done. I 
 think I had help in doing a patch at one time for the Mac but I don't know if 
 I still have it or if it would still work - this was a long time ago.
 
 3. In addition to louis, which was done by Greg Kearney in order to implement 
 liblouis on the Mac,, there are liblouis and liblouisutdml, which I use on 
 the command line after compiling and installing. There are a few little 
 quirks but I was able to install them on the Mac. I also now have them 
 installed on an old powerpc Mac mini which I have turned into a debian linux 
 machine. Unless Greg has fixed the problem in louis,, the right tables aren't 
 being loaded for Spanish - I don't know about other languages. Part of the 
 problem had to do with UTF8 character sets but I would have to go back and 
 look at my notes and email exchanges with John Boyer and the related email 
 lists to really give an accurate explanation. The result was that most of my 
 accents were not being translated if I tried to use Louis but I would instead 
 get these codes offset by single quotes if I remember correctly.
 
 3. I think that somewhere with using liblouis and liblouisutdml and maybe 
 other components, there is a program for doing rtf but I haven't ever tried 
 it. While I do use liblouis and company successfully, it is not automatic 
 conversion by any means. I have to do a lot of formatting within the text 
 file to get what I want in the braille file and even then I have to do 
 editing in the braille file too. Some of this may be my ignorance as to the 
 proper way to do things but just be warned if you use it, there is definitely 
 work and problem-solving involved.
 
 Hth.
 
 
 
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 

Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-11 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Tim,

I don't know that machine. What do Enabling Technologies say? What have you 
tried?

Gena
On 10 Jun 2014, at 22:42, Tim Emmons temmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gena, I have a Romeo Pro 50 a single sided braille printer from Enabling 
 technologies. Can I get that to emboss on the mac side? I've not had luck 
 with it yet but was just curious. Let me know what might work. This is for my 
 office here at work, we're trying to get our braille printer back up and 
 going and we've been down with it for a few months since they switched us 
 here and I can't seem to get the embosser to work. Thanks. 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.
 
 Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 
 chipsets supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a 
 supported one. I had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't 
 difficult. It generates a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the 
 braille for embossing.
 
 Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.
 
 I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
 not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which 
 I eventually found. This works OK but is limited.
 
 Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
 with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work 
 for me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.
 
 So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or 
 Louis if you want a GUI interface.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 
 On 10 Jun 2014, at 18:31, Daniel Chavez topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's the same question I want to know. I have a Romeo Pro 50 and want to 
 emboss with it.
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Daniel Chavez
That's the same question I want to know. I have a Romeo Pro 50 and want to 
emboss with it.

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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Robert C
   I am waiting for Duxbury to port DBT over to Mac. And if that 
version uses Microsoft Word, which supposedly will be accessible on the 
Mac, it cannot be soon enough tho I may need the time to save up the 
pennies for both. :)


   But if there are other alternatives that would work, I would try those.

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On 6/10/2014 10:10 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a Mac?  
If so, how are you doing it?
Thanks,
Donna



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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I use an Index printer and Index has an application and driver. I use liblouis 
and liblouisutdml for translation but I also do a lot of editing along with 
that; there is also a louis program for the Mac but at least for the Spanish 
there were problems with it last time I tried it but the English may work fine. 
I'm just doing text files though, not Word files, but I don't need that for 
what I am doing right now anyway. If you have an Index printer, a quick google 
should bring up information as this was posted on the macvoiceover list and I 
think some other lists a little over a year ago.

 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 


 On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a 
 Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?  
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

I had posted this to the list a while ago:

Was emailing with the folks at ViewPlus and they say they have a beta 
driver for their embossers. They said it can emboss simple text 
documents and works with any current generation ViewPlus embosser. I can 
pass along their contact info if anyone wants to give it a whirl.


CB

On 6/10/14, 2:11 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
I use an Index printer and Index has an application and driver. I use 
liblouis and liblouisutdml for translation but I also do a lot of 
editing along with that; there is also a louis program for the Mac but 
at least for the Spanish there were problems with it last time I tried 
it but the English may work fine. I'm just doing text files though, 
not Word files, but I don't need that for what I am doing right now 
anyway. If you have an Index printer, a quick google should bring up 
information as this was posted on the macvoiceover list and I think 
some other lists a little over a year ago.



--
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)



On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com 
mailto:doniado...@me.com wrote:



Hi all,

Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille 
from a Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?

Thanks,
Donna

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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Jessica D
Will a Braille blazer work on a Mac?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 10, 2014, at 2:14 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 I had posted this to the list a while ago:
 
 Was emailing with the folks at ViewPlus and they say they have a beta driver 
 for their embossers. They said it can emboss simple text documents and works 
 with any current generation ViewPlus embosser. I can pass along their contact 
 info if anyone wants to give it a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/10/14, 2:11 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 I use an Index printer and Index has an application and driver. I use 
 liblouis and liblouisutdml for translation but I also do a lot of editing 
 along with that; there is also a louis program for the Mac but at least for 
 the Spanish there were problems with it last time I tried it but the English 
 may work fine. I'm just doing text files though, not Word files, but I don't 
 need that for what I am doing right now anyway. If you have an Index 
 printer, a quick google should bring up information as this was posted on 
 the macvoiceover list and I think some other lists a little over a year ago.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a 
 Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?  
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Yeah, me, too.  But it seems to keep getting delayed. *sigh*
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:

   I am waiting for Duxbury to port DBT over to Mac. And if that version uses 
 Microsoft Word, which supposedly will be accessible on the Mac, it cannot be 
 soon enough tho I may need the time to save up the pennies for both. :)
 
   But if there are other alternatives that would work, I would try those.
 
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 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a 
 Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
thanks, Cheryl.  I'm actually asking for someone who is fairly new to the Mac, 
and is currently in the process of selecting and embosser.  I'll check this out.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 10, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 I use an Index printer and Index has an application and driver. I use 
 liblouis and liblouisutdml for translation but I also do a lot of editing 
 along with that; there is also a louis program for the Mac but at least for 
 the Spanish there were problems with it last time I tried it but the English 
 may work fine. I'm just doing text files though, not Word files, but I don't 
 need that for what I am doing right now anyway. If you have an Index printer, 
 a quick google should bring up information as this was posted on the 
 macvoiceover list and I think some other lists a little over a year ago.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a 
 Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?  
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks, Chris, I may give them a call.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 10, 2014, at 1:14 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I had posted this to the list a while ago:
 
 Was emailing with the folks at ViewPlus and they say they have a beta driver 
 for their embossers. They said it can emboss simple text documents and works 
 with any current generation ViewPlus embosser. I can pass along their contact 
 info if anyone wants to give it a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/10/14, 2:11 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 I use an Index printer and Index has an application and driver. I use 
 liblouis and liblouisutdml for translation but I also do a lot of editing 
 along with that; there is also a louis program for the Mac but at least for 
 the Spanish there were problems with it last time I tried it but the English 
 may work fine. I'm just doing text files though, not Word files, but I don't 
 need that for what I am doing right now anyway. If you have an Index 
 printer, a quick google should bring up information as this was posted on 
 the macvoiceover list and I think some other lists a little over a year ago.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a 
 Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?  
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The embossers from Index work well. Your biggest problem, however, is not the 
actual embossing but the translation program.

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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


 On Jun 10, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 thanks, Cheryl.  I’m actually asking for someone who is fairly new to the 
 Mac, and is currently in the process of selecting and embosser.  I’ll check 
 this out.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I use an Index printer and Index has an application and driver. I use 
 liblouis and liblouisutdml for translation but I also do a lot of editing 
 along with that; there is also a louis program for the Mac but at least for 
 the Spanish there were problems with it last time I tried it but the English 
 may work fine. I'm just doing text files though, not Word files, but I don't 
 need that for what I am doing right now anyway. If you have an Index 
 printer, a quick google should bring up information as this was posted on 
 the macvoiceover list and I think some other lists a little over a year ago.
 
 -- 
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a 
 Mac?  If so, how are you doing it?  
 Thanks,
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Robert C
   I have not heard that, did not know there was a delay, for I never 
heard a deadline. Ok being funny here. :) I would play with Louis but 
the embosser is not close enough to the Mac anyway to be connected.


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On 6/10/2014 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Yeah, me, too.  But it seems to keep getting delayed. *sigh*
Cheers,
Donna
On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote:


   I am waiting for Duxbury to port DBT over to Mac. And if that version uses 
Microsoft Word, which supposedly will be accessible on the Mac, it cannot be 
soon enough tho I may need the time to save up the pennies for both. :)

   But if there are other alternatives that would work, I would try those.

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Hi all,

Just wondering if there are any of you out there embossing braille from a Mac?  
If so, how are you doing it?
Thanks,
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.

Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 chipsets 
supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a supported one. I 
had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't difficult. It generates 
a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the braille for embossing.

Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.

I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which I 
eventually found. This works OK but is limited.

Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work for 
me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.

So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or Louis 
if you want a GUI interface.

HTH

Gena

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 That's the same question I want to know. I have a Romeo Pro 50 and want to 
 emboss with it.
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Tim Emmons
 Gena, I have a Romeo Pro 50 a single sided braille printer from Enabling 
technologies. Can I get that to emboss on the mac side? I've not had luck with 
it yet but was just curious. Let me know what might work. This is for my office 
here at work, we're trying to get our braille printer back up and going and 
we've been down with it for a few months since they switched us here and I 
can't seem to get the embosser to work. Thanks. 
On Jun 10, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.
 
 Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 chipsets 
 supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a supported one. 
 I had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't difficult. It 
 generates a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the braille for embossing.
 
 Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.
 
 I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
 not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which 
 I eventually found. This works OK but is limited.
 
 Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
 with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work for 
 me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.
 
 So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or 
 Louis if you want a GUI interface.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 
 On 10 Jun 2014, at 18:31, Daniel Chavez topdog2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's the same question I want to know. I have a Romeo Pro 50 and want to 
 emboss with it.
 
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Re: embossing from a Mac?

2014-06-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I thought about replying within the message but decided that might not work so 
well for people who are trying to read fast. So I'll address each point here at 
the top.

1. My cable came with the Index basic and I didn't have to go find a prolific 
driver and cable. Maybe that is part of what the driver and application do 
though I do also happen to have prolific cables because of using brltty. Maybe 
it's been fixed but from Lion on, sometimes the official prolific driver caused 
problems; for instance, unplugging it without killing brltty first caused 
spontaneous reboot of my computer and I learned by searching online that this 
was not a brltty problem but was related to the prolific driver's interaction 
with the OS. And on one of my computers, installing the prolific driver did not 
result in a cu.usbserial or any other cu. device in /dev. So I looked around 
online and found that somebody had done a driver, though I had to directly 
install the kernel extension instead of just running an installer. The naming 
ends up being different from what the official driver did but it does start 
with a cu prefix. Btw I think that keyspan cables are no longer useable at all; 
I have a few of those too. The change in driver solved both issues. I'll post 
the links in case anybody needs them. But because I kind of went down a rabbit 
trail here let me again say that the cable that came with the Index Basic I 
have worked out of the box for me along with the driver and application.

 PL2303 Serial USB on OSX Lion

 Mountain Lion PL-2303 Driver Crash Fix | The Networking Nerd



2. Actually, I used to compile nfbtrans on my Mac in terminal just as I did in 
linux. I didn't actually use it for embossing but it could be done. I think I 
had help in doing a patch at one time for the Mac but I don't know if I still 
have it or if it would still work - this was a long time ago.

3. In addition to louis, which was done by Greg Kearney in order to implement 
liblouis on the Mac,, there are liblouis and liblouisutdml, which I use on the 
command line after compiling and installing. There are a few little quirks but 
I was able to install them on the Mac. I also now have them installed on an old 
powerpc Mac mini which I have turned into a debian linux machine. Unless Greg 
has fixed the problem in louis,, the right tables aren't being loaded for 
Spanish - I don't know about other languages. Part of the problem had to do 
with UTF8 character sets but I would have to go back and look at my notes and 
email exchanges with John Boyer and the related email lists to really give an 
accurate explanation. The result was that most of my accents were not being 
translated if I tried to use Louis but I would instead get these codes offset 
by single quotes if I remember correctly.

3. I think that somewhere with using liblouis and liblouisutdml and maybe other 
components, there is a program for doing rtf but I haven't ever tried it. While 
I do use liblouis and company successfully, it is not automatic conversion by 
any means. I have to do a lot of formatting within the text file to get what I 
want in the braille file and even then I have to do editing in the braille file 
too. Some of this may be my ignorance as to the proper way to do things but 
just be warned if you use it, there is definitely work and problem-solving 
involved.

Hth.



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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)


 On Jun 10, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have just got an Index Basic going on my Mac.
 
 Firstly I needed a USB to serial lead. I understand that there are 2 chipsets 
 supported. I was lucky that one that I had for some time was a supported one. 
 I had to find a Prolific driver and install it. It wasn't difficult. It 
 generates a /dev/cu.usbserial device which you send the braille for embossing.
 
 Not sure if I needed the Index driver too but I installed it.
 
 I had used nfbtrans on a linux command line so grabbed that. However, it was 
 not going to work on the Mac. There is a Mac patch copy floating about which 
 I eventually found. This works OK but is limited.
 
 Then there is Louis a GUI accessible program. This works too. However, only 
 with text files. RTF and HTML etc files just seem to crash and don't work for 
 me. It does enable the translation of different braille tables.
 
 So check out nfbtrans if you don't mind working from the command line or 
 Louis if you want a GUI interface.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 
 

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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-06 Thread Chris Blouch
No unexpectedly quitting for me. A Mac reboot every now and then isn't a 
bad idea.


CB

On 1/4/14 12:05 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello Chris,

Smacks forehead on desk. I am an idiot. I was trying to get OpenOffice 
and LibreOffice from a installation back when I got my Mac last March… 
I fail. I spent almost all day doing research allay and never though 
I’d update the apps! sees.


So that’s what I did, I updated both OpenOffice and Libre, and 
OpenOffice is still having Voiceover problems, but it loos like Libre 
is now user friendly.


Now, it is maybe my Mac needs a reboot, but both apps quit unexpedatly 
when I close them. So I don’t know that is a problem or not.


Now I’m am trying to install a Libre extension called odt2 that is 
supposed to translate to braille. I know my braille instructor does 
that on a Windows machine.

Daniel Hawkins
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On Jan 3, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com 
mailto:cblo...@aol.com wrote:


Have you tried the latest LibreOffice? It was not working with 
voiceover last I tried it but I just downloaded the new version today 
4.1.4.2 and so far the word processor is working reasonably well. At 
least I wasn't getting the empty document I used to get. I'm on 10.8 
so I couldn't verify if there are issues with Mavericks but other 
forums say it works if you get the 64-bit OSX build.


CB

On 1/2/14 4:12 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and 
OpenOffice is fully accessible . When I looked around, the last 
accessible format was on Lion, and Openoffice 3.


The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.

When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just 
can’t hear what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me 
just fine.


I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the 
two apps just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are 
having that problem.


So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com 
mailto:cblo...@aol.com wrote:


According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly 
works with VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar 
items and couldn't actually work with the text in the document. 
That's been a while so maybe they fixed it again. LibreOffice 
claims the same thing. Did you try them or was this info from a web 
page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give them a whirl.


CB

On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello everyone,

Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my 
sister have been blind for years and I just recently lost my 
vision. However I jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is 
transiting from Windows XP to Mac. One problem she had was 
learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach her. So I did 
research allay, and I found out that you can print braille using 
Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.


Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, 
those two apps won’t run at all.


So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the 
only solution is to still run Windows?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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Re: embossing from the mac

2014-01-05 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

There is a pef driver, so you can print robobrailles files on a braille 
printer, if you have got a pef file from robobraille.

If you wish more details please let me know. I think I have sent some 
information out a while back.

Best regards Annie.
Den 04 Jan 2014 kl. 04:54 skrev jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com:

 Sherryl:
 I have also tried Louis but couldn't figure it out either.  I could go 
 through the steps of translating a file I guess but could never find the 
 translated file.  There didn't seem to be a place to specify where the output 
 file should go.  So I gave up on it and went back to using Robo Braille.  The 
 problem with that is that you need to be connected to the internet and there 
 is apparently no way to translate from Braille to print.  
 Any insights about how to specify where the output file should go would be 
 appreciated.  Then again, it is possible I was doing something else wrong.  I 
 found no good documentation and writing to the developers yielded no results. 
  Maybe I will try it again as I would like to have a braille translator that 
 can be used off line.
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-03 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi all.

What about liblouis.
https://code.google.com/p/liblouis/
I can not figure out how to install and run it on the mac, but maybe someone 
can clarify that. It has been updated in june or july.

Best regards Annie.
Den 02 Jan 2014 kl. 22:12 skrev Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com:

 I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and OpenOffice is 
 fully accessible . When I looked around, the last accessible format was on 
 Lion, and Openoffice 3.
 
 The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.
 
 When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just can’t 
 hear what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me just fine.
 
 I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two apps 
 just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that problem.
 
 So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works with 
 VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and couldn't 
 actually work with the text in the document. That's been a while so maybe 
 they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. Did you try them or 
 was this info from a web page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give 
 them a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
 have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
 jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
 Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to 
 teach her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print 
 braille using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
 accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
 apps won’t run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
 solution is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-03 Thread Jessica D
Is it free?

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 On Jan 3, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 What about liblouis.
 https://code.google.com/p/liblouis/
 I can not figure out how to install and run it on the mac, but maybe someone 
 can clarify that. It has been updated in june or july.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 02 Jan 2014 kl. 22:12 skrev Daniel Hawkins 
 computersassocia...@gmail.com:
 
 I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and OpenOffice is 
 fully accessible . When I looked around, the last accessible format was on 
 Lion, and Openoffice 3.
 
 The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.
 
 When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just can’t 
 hear what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me just fine.
 
 I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two apps 
 just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that problem.
 
 So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works with 
 VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and couldn't 
 actually work with the text in the document. That's been a while so maybe 
 they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. Did you try them or 
 was this info from a web page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give 
 them a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
 have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. 
 However I jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from 
 Windows XP to Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was 
 none  here to teach her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you 
 can print braille using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
 accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
 apps won’t run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
 solution is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I use liblouis to translate from print to braille. It's also actually possible 
to write in braille on your computer if you know what symbols to use and I've 
been known to do this for short things and quick corrections. My printer is an 
Index and so I use the Index driver for actual printing.

-- 
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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
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On Jan 3, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 What about liblouis.
 https://code.google.com/p/liblouis/
 I can not figure out how to install and run it on the mac, but maybe someone 
 can clarify that. It has been updated in june or july.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 02 Jan 2014 kl. 22:12 skrev Daniel Hawkins 
 computersassocia...@gmail.com:
 
 I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and OpenOffice is 
 fully accessible . When I looked around, the last accessible format was on 
 Lion, and Openoffice 3.
 
 The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.
 
 When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just can’t 
 hear what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me just fine.
 
 I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two apps 
 just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that problem.
 
 So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works with 
 VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and couldn't 
 actually work with the text in the document. That's been a while so maybe 
 they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. Did you try them or 
 was this info from a web page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give 
 them a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
 have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
 jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
 Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to 
 teach her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print 
 braille using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
 accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
 apps won’t run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
 solution is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-03 Thread Chris Blouch
Have you tried the latest LibreOffice? It was not working with voiceover 
last I tried it but I just downloaded the new version today 4.1.4.2 and 
so far the word processor is working reasonably well. At least I wasn't 
getting the empty document I used to get. I'm on 10.8 so I couldn't 
verify if there are issues with Mavericks but other forums say it works 
if you get the 64-bit OSX build.


CB

On 1/2/14 4:12 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and 
OpenOffice is fully accessible . When I looked around, the last 
accessible format was on Lion, and Openoffice 3.


The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.

When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just 
can’t hear what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me 
just fine.


I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two 
apps just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that 
problem.


So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com 
mailto:cblo...@aol.com wrote:


According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works 
with VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items 
and couldn't actually work with the text in the document. That's been 
a while so maybe they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same 
thing. Did you try them or was this info from a web page. Both are 
free so it costs nothing to give them a whirl.


CB

On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello everyone,

Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my 
sister have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. 
However I jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting 
from Windows XP to Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, 
there was none  here to teach her. So I did research allay, and I 
found out that you can print braille using Openoffice or 
libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.


Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, 
those two apps won’t run at all.


So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
solution is to still run Windows?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-03 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello Chris,

Smacks forehead on desk. I am an idiot. I was trying to get OpenOffice and 
LibreOffice from a installation back when I got my Mac last March… I fail. I 
spent almost all day doing research allay and never though I’d update the apps! 
sees.

So that’s what I did, I updated both OpenOffice and Libre, and OpenOffice is 
still having Voiceover problems, but it loos like Libre is now user friendly.

Now, it is maybe my Mac needs a reboot, but both apps quit unexpedatly when I 
close them. So I don’t know that is a problem or not.

Now I’m am trying to install a Libre extension called odt2 that is supposed to 
translate to braille. I know my braille instructor does that on a Windows 
machine.
Daniel Hawkins
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On Jan 3, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 Have you tried the latest LibreOffice? It was not working with voiceover last 
 I tried it but I just downloaded the new version today 4.1.4.2 and so far the 
 word processor is working reasonably well. At least I wasn't getting the 
 empty document I used to get. I'm on 10.8 so I couldn't verify if there are 
 issues with Mavericks but other forums say it works if you get the 64-bit OSX 
 build.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 4:12 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and OpenOffice is 
 fully accessible . When I looked around, the last accessible format was on 
 Lion, and Openoffice 3.
 
 The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.
 
 When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just can’t 
 hear what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me just fine.
 
 I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two apps 
 just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that problem.
 
 So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works with 
 VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and couldn't 
 actually work with the text in the document. That's been a while so maybe 
 they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. Did you try them or 
 was this info from a web page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give 
 them a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
 have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
 jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
 Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to 
 teach her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print 
 braille using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
 accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
 apps won’t run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
 solution is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-02 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Daniel, 

I'm not sure if this topic was recently discussed on this list or another. 
However, I did received a recent post on the Duxbury list serve stating that 
once 11.2 is released, creating and dedicating time for a Mac Duxbury version 
is high on the priority list. Who knows when it will be released, but there are 
plenty of us who are using a Mac and would really like to emboss with it. 
Hence, I am still running my Dell laptop using Win 7 to emboss. HTH. 

Eileen 
On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister have 
 been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I jumped to 
 a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to Mac. One 
 problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach her. So I 
 did research allay, and I found out that you can print braille using 
 Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not accessible 
 on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two apps won’t 
 run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only solution 
 is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-02 Thread Chris Blouch
According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works 
with VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and 
couldn't actually work with the text in the document. That's been a 
while so maybe they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. 
Did you try them or was this info from a web page. Both are free so it 
costs nothing to give them a whirl.


CB

On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello everyone,

Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my 
sister have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. 
However I jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from 
Windows XP to Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was 
none  here to teach her. So I did research allay, and I found out that 
you can print braille using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 
extension.


Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those 
two apps won’t run at all.


So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
solution is to still run Windows?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
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4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Ok, thanks for letting me know on that. I have no experience with Duxbury, so i 
will pass that along to my sister.

Thanks!
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On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Daniel, 
 
 I'm not sure if this topic was recently discussed on this list or another. 
 However, I did received a recent post on the Duxbury list serve stating that 
 once 11.2 is released, creating and dedicating time for a Mac Duxbury version 
 is high on the priority list. Who knows when it will be released, but there 
 are plenty of us who are using a Mac and would really like to emboss with it. 
 Hence, I am still running my Dell laptop using Win 7 to emboss. HTH. 
 
 Eileen 
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
 have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
 jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
 Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach 
 her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print braille 
 using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
 accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
 apps won’t run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
 solution is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

2014-01-02 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and OpenOffice is 
fully accessible . When I looked around, the last accessible format was on 
Lion, and Openoffice 3.

The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.

When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just can’t hear 
what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me just fine.

I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two apps 
just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that problem.

So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works with VO 
 now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and couldn't 
 actually work with the text in the document. That's been a while so maybe 
 they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. Did you try them or 
 was this info from a web page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give them 
 a whirl.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
 have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
 jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
 Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach 
 her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print braille 
 using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
 
 Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
 accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
 apps won’t run at all.
 
 So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
 solution is to still run Windows?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
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