Re: display brailles
Try the following: Go into vO utility, and choose the braille category. Make sure the layout tab is selected. Find the item that says, use dots seven and eight to indicate cursor and uncheck it. Then close the dialog. HtH, teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Apr 27, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: display brailles
Here is some information that may be helpful: http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1129.html HtH, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On Apr 27, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Well apparently even fewer people here on this list know anything about that display. Where did you get it? You are better off to seek support for the display from another source that is more knowledgeable. Quote of the nanosecond . . . It is better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 9:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: we can't do that here in italy, because not all of the blind here use the display braille, and they i suppose they dont teach this much here. On 28 Apr 2014, at 06:51 am, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: You are in 8 dot mode. I suggest you get some training locally so you can learn how to work with your braille display. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Hell is paved with good samaritans. --William M. Holden Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 9:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: display brailles
On a lot of displays, dots 7 and 8 are the cursor indicators. This is true on the mac, anyway. I turned that off on mine because it drives me crazy to always see dots 7 and 8 underneath everything. With vo, all the text on a page is technically in the vo cursor. That's why those dots are always there if you have that option selected in your display settings under the vo utility. hth, Caitlyn On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: display brailles
Not true. You cand certainly assign commands on displays that don't have a braille keyboard. Although, as read only displays have fewer keys, the number of commands you can assign is somewhat limited. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-04-27, at 9:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and
Re: display brailles
Hi, if you do a four finger double tap on your device this will open up the help mode. You can then press buttons or combinations of buttons and hear what they do. Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-04-26, at 2:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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i already turn it off the 7 and 8 of the display braille but anyways, thanks for the informations. i'll just leave my display braille. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this
Re: display brailles
my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
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Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher
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I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth
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This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead to nowhere. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. --Toni Morrison Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my
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any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have better luck if we knew which one it was? Cheers Thuy Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead to nowhere. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. --Toni Morrison Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use
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Nippon Touch Me 5 braille display. Has no keyboard for input. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian. --Dennis Wholey (1937-) Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 7:59 AM, Thuy Mallalieu wrote: any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have better luck if we knew which one it was? Cheers Thuy Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead to nowhere. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. --Toni Morrison Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You
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I don't see that one in the supported Braille display list. I see lots of Nippon telsoft, but not that one. http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Nippon Touch Me 5 braille display. Has no keyboard for input. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian. --Dennis Wholey (1937-) Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 7:59 AM, Thuy Mallalieu wrote: any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have better luck if we knew which one it was? Cheers Thuy Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead to nowhere. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. --Toni Morrison Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: nope, i dont think i can't type on my
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maybe its only for reading, maybe it was not supported with navigating, but thanks any way On 27 Apr 2014, at 05:57 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I don't see that one in the supported Braille display list. I see lots of Nippon telsoft, but not that one. http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Nippon Touch Me 5 braille display. Has no keyboard for input. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian. --Dennis Wholey (1937-) Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 7:59 AM, Thuy Mallalieu wrote: any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have better luck if we knew which one it was? Cheers Thuy Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead to nowhere. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. --Toni Morrison Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi again You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the next page. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility braille then i have to assign some commands? On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are supported. In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard of before. Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense.
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It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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You are in 8 dot mode. I suggest you get some training locally so you can learn how to work with your braille display. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Hell is paved with good samaritans. --William M. Holden Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 9:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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we can't do that here in italy, because not all of the blind here use the display braille, and they i suppose they dont teach this much here. On 28 Apr 2014, at 06:51 am, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: You are in 8 dot mode. I suggest you get some training locally so you can learn how to work with your braille display. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Hell is paved with good samaritans. --William M. Holden Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 9:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Well apparently even fewer people here on this list know anything about that display. Where did you get it? You are better off to seek support for the display from another source that is more knowledgeable. Quote of the nanosecond . . . It is better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 9:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: we can't do that here in italy, because not all of the blind here use the display braille, and they i suppose they dont teach this much here. On 28 Apr 2014, at 06:51 am, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: You are in 8 dot mode. I suggest you get some training locally so you can learn how to work with your braille display. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Hell is paved with good samaritans. --William M. Holden Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/27/2014 9:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: theresa, how come that when i read on my display braille it seems like they were all underlined? i mean, theres always a two character below On 27 Apr 2014, at 11:18 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It's possible that Os X tried the closest match. HtH, teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Apr 27, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: when i connected my display braille, it was name nippontel seka, but it doesn't tell what version it was, and it was listed on thehttp://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com ha scritto: Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I think you would be better off to seek local assistance to learn to use this display. It does not appear to be supported by Apple. Quote of the nanosecond . . . I never apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am. --Homer Simpson Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 4/26/2014 6:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi there Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different things. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
