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hi, is nvda related too the mac? well i would guess so if you run it under vmware? that being said. How about simply just talking nicely too each other, it is not hard, and you dont use so much negative energy on whimpering and whining. An nvda situation under mac could be as following: 1: you need your scanner too run under windows and you want that too happen on your mac, after that gorgeously install you obviously need some sortta speech. That could very well be nvda, right? so directly related too the mac, obviously no, but i still would say related yes. talk nice, and if you dont wanna see emails from a person, simply just delete it. have a nice day all sandi On 6/30/13, Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: I personally think that CJ is right here. I rarely post here, but quite frankly i have seen minimally speaking tem times the following scenario: bounders are stepped, apology comes once in a while - sometimes ina drama novel format - and the cycle repeats itself. anyone who looks up list archives will see the cycle. how you interpret it is up to you, but dont deny it. Mauricio On 6/29/13, shane christenson ksha...@att.net wrote: I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products discussed on this list. Shane' On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to anyone reading this crud, Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac /or OSX its various applications. Words like, strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very least. And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator on this list step in say enough! I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation filter him out of my mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter he's sure got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this consider action regarding Chris. It's not the first time it won't be the last. Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. Sincerely, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sir? That is no? problem! I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why shouldn't I when you were down right rude. All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something: This list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list. There is another list specifically for that, nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com and I'm sure people there would be happy to help. Second of all, what was nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on
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Agreed, and if you don't like someone asking a truely honest to God curious question, then get outta their face and leave 'em the heck alone! Chris. - Original Message - From: Sandi Jazmin Kruse sandi1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:01 AM Subject: Re: regarding a list member hi, is nvda related too the mac? well i would guess so if you run it under vmware? that being said. How about simply just talking nicely too each other, it is not hard, and you dont use so much negative energy on whimpering and whining. An nvda situation under mac could be as following: 1: you need your scanner too run under windows and you want that too happen on your mac, after that gorgeously install you obviously need some sortta speech. That could very well be nvda, right? so directly related too the mac, obviously no, but i still would say related yes. talk nice, and if you dont wanna see emails from a person, simply just delete it. have a nice day all sandi On 6/30/13, Mauricio Almeida mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com wrote: I personally think that CJ is right here. I rarely post here, but quite frankly i have seen minimally speaking tem times the following scenario: bounders are stepped, apology comes once in a while - sometimes ina drama novel format - and the cycle repeats itself. anyone who looks up list archives will see the cycle. how you interpret it is up to you, but dont deny it. Mauricio On 6/29/13, shane christenson ksha...@att.net wrote: I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products discussed on this list. Shane' On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to anyone reading this crud, Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac /or OSX its various applications. Words like, strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very least. And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator on this list step in say enough! I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation filter him out of my mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter he's sure got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this consider action regarding Chris. It's not the first time it won't be the last. Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. Sincerely, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sir? That is no? problem! I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why shouldn't I when you were down right rude. All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something: This list
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I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products discussed on this list. Shane' On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to anyone reading this crud, Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac /or OSX its various applications. Words like, strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very least. And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator on this list step in say enough! I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation filter him out of my mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter he's sure got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this consider action regarding Chris. It's not the first time it won't be the last. Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. Sincerely, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sir? That is no? problem! I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why shouldn't I when you were down right rude. All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something: This list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list. There is another list specifically for that, nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com and I'm sure people there would be happy to help. Second of all, what was nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on list, and saying he's tired of my pussy whatever comments. I don't remember his wording, but who the hell cares! You want my help, ask for it nicely, and you might get it, but if you sit here and trample me for one honest to goodness question, don't expect anything in return. I don't mind you speaking your mind, Phil, no, but just as you have the right to speak your's, so do I, and that's exactly what you've forced my hand to do. You all will learn very quickly, I can be the best friend, and most patient compassionate man you'll probably know, but you piss me off? wheuhuhho boy! are you gonna know it! Frankly, if you wanna delete my e-mails, Phil or not, go right? ahead! People like you all who do that have that right certainly, but frankly, you guys are not worth my time nor energy, so get off my case, as frankly, not only do I not wanna hear it, but frankly, I'm neither going! to listen to it, case closed! I am done with this discussion, so don't even think! about writing me on or off list about it, as if I see one e-mail from this thread, it's getting deleted and not even opened.
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Did you read his last post? The med thing was a joke, sort of…meaning maybe it's not a bad idea. Anyway, maybe our standards are very different, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:02 PM, shane christenson ksha...@att.net wrote: I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products discussed on this list. Shane' On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to anyone reading this crud, Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac /or OSX its various applications. Words like, strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very least. And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator on this list step in say enough! I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation filter him out of my mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter he's sure got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this consider action regarding Chris. It's not the first time it won't be the last. Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. Sincerely, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sir? That is no? problem! I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why shouldn't I when you were down right rude. All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something: This list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list. There is another list specifically for that, nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com and I'm sure people there would be happy to help. Second of all, what was nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on list, and saying he's tired of my pussy whatever comments. I don't remember his wording, but who the hell cares! You want my help, ask for it nicely, and you might get it, but if you sit here and trample me for one honest to goodness question, don't expect anything in return. I don't mind you speaking your mind, Phil, no, but just as you have the right to speak your's, so do I, and that's exactly what you've forced my hand to do. You all will learn very quickly, I can be the best friend, and most patient compassionate man you'll probably know, but you piss me off? wheuhuhho boy! are you gonna know it! Frankly, if you wanna delete my e-mails, Phil or not, go right? ahead! People like you all who do that have that right certainly, but frankly, you guys are not worth my time nor energy, so get off my case, as frankly, not only do I not wanna hear it, but frankly,
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It's ok Shane. You don't have to defend me. I'm going to give it a night to let things cool down before doing something rash that I'll later possibly regret, especially being how difficult I hear it now is to get on the list, but most likely, unless my decision changes tomorrow, I'll probably be off the list. That last e-mail has me practically sobbing in uncontrolable tears. You all don't have to worry though. I won't help any longer. I'm completely finished. I know I've said this before, but between CJ and Phil, I'm sorry, that's put me over the top. I've been patient long enough with you guys. Oh, and by the way, before anyone asks me. Yes, I'll finish the ProTools stuff on Applevis. I made you all that promise, and I don't break promises, case closed. So though I really don't feel like doing so, that, I'll finish for you all, but after that, I'm done! Please do not anyone contact me for Macintosh help again unless you're prepared to pay my business hourly rate which is $15 an hour, or my flat rate unlimited monthly fee which is $25.00. - Original Message - From: shane christenson To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:02 PM Subject: regarding a list member I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products discussed on this list. Shane' On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to anyone reading this crud, Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac /or OSX its various applications. Words like, strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very least. And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator on this list step in say enough! I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation filter him out of my mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter he's sure got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this consider action regarding Chris. It's not the first time it won't be the last. Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. Sincerely, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sir? That is no? problem! I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why shouldn't I when you were down right rude. All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something: This list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list. There is another list specifically for that, nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com
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I personally think that CJ is right here. I rarely post here, but quite frankly i have seen minimally speaking tem times the following scenario: bounders are stepped, apology comes once in a while - sometimes ina drama novel format - and the cycle repeats itself. anyone who looks up list archives will see the cycle. how you interpret it is up to you, but dont deny it. Mauricio On 6/29/13, shane christenson ksha...@att.net wrote: I don't normally get in on discussions like this, but, I'm not sure where someone gets the idea that he is needing medication. I personally have found him to be a wealth of information with his knowledge of the apple products discussed on this list. Shane' On Jun 29, 2013, at 5:19 PM, CJ Daniel cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to anyone reading this crud, Time after time, I see Chris being a complete idiot on this list. His subject lines always reflect a border-line hysteria, when dealing with momentary, hiccup, problems with his Mac /or OSX its various applications. Words like, strange, weird, bizarre, maddening, crazy, other off-the-top descriptions reflect a manic personality, that seems unstable @ the very least. And now, based on an inquiry--that seems legit to me for those using Boot Camp or VM Fusion--he is using distasteful language in a completely off-the-chart rant/response to the originator of the NVDA post. Without a medical history, I suppose it would be inappropriate to suggest that Chris up his anti depressant dosage. But, seriously, @ what point does the moderator on this list step in say enough! I guess I could take Chris's own recommendation filter him out of my mail box. In fact, I have considered this in the past, when seeing his posts. I must confess, I generally skip over them, as a matter of course, anyway. However, this last rant is just unacceptable. Chris states himself, that he's not acting professionally in this matter he's sure got that right. While, as he states in his message that he doesn't have to act that way in this environment, he could @ least act with courtesy. Anyway, I sincerely hope that the moderator will read this consider action regarding Chris. It's not the first time it won't be the last. Chris is the one bad apple that sours the whole barrel. Sincerely, CJ On Jun 29, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Sir? That is no? problem! I will forget about you, and will set up a mail filter from now on to block every bit your incoming mail, whether directed at me or not. Frankly, you're being very hasty and extremely disrespectful. But, Mister Congeniality whom I've delt with on and off various lists numerous times before, may I add the mods taking my side every single time, your perfect because you're god, and you know everything. Oh yeah, I forgot oh wize one! No one else ever! is right, everyone but you is wrong! God damn straight I took what you said personally in your last reply. Why shouldn't I when you were down right rude. All that I initially did was asked one question about how the hell what you said was related to the mac. I wasn't jumping down your throat, and though you clame you meant well in your first e-mail back to me, it proves you as a despicable liar! If you weren't offended at what I said, you wouldn't haveritten the things you did. You don't have to like me, but God fucking dammit, I do! deserve dignity and respect, and if anyone on this list wants to say I'm not a Christian quote unquote, and chuck Reichel, don't you even think! about writing me telling me to God up! People on this list're gonna learn, in a professional environment, I'd not speak as I am, but this is non CLG Productions related, thus professionalism goes out the window when you treat me this way. Frankly, to anyone moderator or not, who feels me saying what I am is in the wrong, let me remind you of something: This list is a macintosh Voiceover/IOS list, not! an NVDA list. There is another list specifically for that, nvda+subscr...@googlegroups.com and I'm sure people there would be happy to help. Second of all, what was nice about this other gentlemen calling me out on list, and saying he's tired of my pussy whatever comments. I don't remember his wording, but who the hell cares! You want my help, ask for it nicely, and you might get it, but if you sit here and trample me for one honest to goodness question, don't expect anything in return. I don't mind you speaking your mind, Phil, no, but just as you have the right to speak your's, so do I, and that's exactly what you've forced my hand to do. You all will learn very quickly, I can be the best friend, and most patient compassionate man you'll probably know, but you piss me off? wheuhuhho boy! are you gonna know it! Frankly, if you wanna delete my e-mails, Phil or not, go right? ahead! People like you all who do that have that right certainly, but
