hacker edition status and future?
Hello, since now the project is revived and some work is going on, I'd like to raise this again. It would be nice if someone involved in this project could comment this http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-May/010280.html I guess this project is not exactly top secret like regular firmwares so more open process would be nice. I have also raised it here https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=612 , feel free to answer where it is appropriate. Opinions can differ but I still think this list would be better for such discussion due to bigger audience http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-May/010283.html Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
hildon-1: Deprecated/removed widgets?
These widgets/headers seem to have been removed from hildon-libs https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-libs/ as it was changed to hildon-1 (in sardine, for Maemo Chinook) https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-1/ hildon-add-home-dialog.h hildon-color-popup.h hildon-color-selector.h hildon-dialoghelp.h hildon-grid.h hildon-grid-item.h hildon-name-password-dialog.h hildon-scroll-area.h hildon-telephone-editor.h hildon-input-mode-hint.h Have they moved to some other library? Have they just been removed, or have some been changed or replaced by other particular widgets? -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Hi, everybody ! I'm new on this list, so be patient, please ... ;-) I would like to know if there is any project active on the Nokia platform to allow: - speech to text (voice synthesis) - text to speech (vocal commands) - GPS receiver direct interface (some kind of driver to allow a direct reading from GPS receiver output, ie: current point in space, velocity, direction ...). I am currently evaluating the porting to the ARM architecture of open-source projects 'rsynth' and 'festival' for text2speech, and 'pockesphinx' for speech2text ... I would also like to have some feedback about the feasibility and usability of adaptive technology features like speech2text and text2speech on the current HW platform (N800). Thanks in advance for Your attention. Cheers. Marco ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Images don't show up on nokia 770
made it a deb package, and installed it on nokia 770. When I start the program using commandline as root, it works perfect. If it works as root but not as user, most obvious reason is filemode/access rights of those images of yours or you are trying to access them from wrong location. Check who's the owner, whats the location they are stored and what are the chmod bits for the files.. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: hildon-1: Deprecated/removed widgets?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Murray Cumming wrote: These widgets/headers seem to have been removed from hildon-libs https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-libs/ as it was changed to hildon-1 (in sardine, for Maemo Chinook) https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-1/ There's some info in the wiki[1], according to it: hildon-add-home-dialog.h hildon-grid.h hildon-grid-item.h hildon-telephone-editor.h were dropped, hildon-name-password-dialog.h was renamed as hildon-login-dialog.h hildon-dialoghelp.h was moved to a more appropriate place (hildon-help), hildon-scroll-area.h will be replaced with more widely useful solution. About the rest: hildon-color-popup.h hildon-color-selector.h hildon-input-mode-hint.h it doesn't mention. [1]: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/haf/apicleanup/ - -- Santtu Lakkala -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGm07NX9Rc0+po4p0RAlhmAJ0Rc0tAEoywBnXcqHCYu/PGoUX7AgCgl0iw UgY/pynlJY1LcK0vePjtL9g= =II1P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Sardine device upgrade failing for days now
ext Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sardine has been failing for about 12 days now, and maybe longer - I wouldn't be using such broad terms; _you_ haven't been able to upgrade to Sardine unstable for a couple of days now, but that doesn't mean that Sardine in general is broken. I (and others) actually use it daily and it works great for me. But of course, thanks for reporting the problem! :) Let's try to figure it out. Preparing to replace dbus 0.61-osso28 (using .../dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dbus ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/var/run', which is also in package ssh Where did you install ssh from? I tested upgrading 4.2007 to Sardine unstable and installed ssh and it worked OK. Both dbus and ssh _do_ contain /var/run, but that's OK since it is a directory in both. Right now, I suspect you have a freaky ssh package that is causing the problems. Try uninstalling ssh and reinstalling it again from the Sardine repository. mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/run/': No such file or directory This is quite weird as well. Can you try to figure out why mkdir /var/run/ fails? Flash full? /var is a symlink to a non-existing location? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Marco Solari wrote: - GPS receiver direct interface (some kind of driver to allow a direct reading from GPS receiver output, ie: current point in space, velocity, direction ...). gpsd is included in N800. Please see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectivity_guide_bora.html http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtousegpsframeworkinos2007/ http://gpsd.berlios.de/ Please note, however, that there is an open bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621 that can be overcome with setenv(GPSD_PROG,/usr/sbin/gpsd,1); before calling gpsbt_start(). This bug prevents for example the gps-saver application from connecting to gpsd. BR Julius ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Thanks ! It's just the kind of information I needed ... There is even some sample code I can use ... Nothing about speech2text /text2speech ? ;-) Marco -Messaggio originale- Da: Julius Luukko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: lunedì 16 luglio 2007 14.30 A: Marco Solari Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Oggetto: Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ... Marco Solari wrote: - GPS receiver direct interface (some kind of driver to allow a direct reading from GPS receiver output, ie: current point in space, velocity, direction ...). gpsd is included in N800. Please see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectivity_gu ide_bora.html http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtousegpsframeworkinos2007/ http://gpsd.berlios.de/ Please note, however, that there is an open bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621 that can be overcome with setenv(GPSD_PROG,/usr/sbin/gpsd,1); before calling gpsbt_start(). This bug prevents for example the gps-saver application from connecting to gpsd. BR Julius ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Marco Solari wrote: Thanks ! It's just the kind of information I needed ... There is even some sample code I can use ... Nothing about speech2text /text2speech ? ;-) Marco For text2speech: flite has been ported and should be easily found. Julius ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
On 7/16/07, Marco Solari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks ! It's just the kind of information I needed ... There is even some sample code I can use ... Nothing about speech2text /text2speech ? ;-) About text2speech there is flite[1]. [1] http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/flite/ http://users.tkk.fi/~tnikkila/maemo/flite/ There is a deb package somewhere (maemo mapper uses it), probably in extra repository. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Marco Solari wrote: I am currently evaluating the porting to the ARM architecture of open-source projects 'rsynth' and 'festival' for text2speech, and 'pockesphinx' for speech2text ... Hi, I'm working on speech recognition for the N800. Plans and status can be found at http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/PocketSphinx and http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/GStreamerSphinx To summarize: * ALSA doesn't work very well so we need to use GStreamer for audio input * This is not actually very hard. I'm working on a GStreamer plugin for PocketSphinx. Currently it is in proof of concept stage, i.e. it recognizes speech but isn't configurable or stable, you can get it at https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/gst-pocketsphinx/ * The N800 is a bit slower than I expected (slower than my first-generation iPaq) so we will have to do some more tuning to get acceptable performance for large-vocabulary tasks like dictation. For simple commands it should be just fine though. * I haven't put up acoustic models yet but will do so pretty soon. The ones included with PocketSphinx will not work because they expect 16kHz sampling rate, and the N800 can only do 8kHz. On the bright side the audio quality from the lapel microphone on the headset that comes with the device is pretty good (the onboard mic is not suitable for speech recognition). Stuff I would appreciate some help with includes: * GStreamer. * How to create a new input method. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
David Huggins-Daines wrote: Marco Solari wrote: I am currently evaluating the porting to the ARM architecture of open-source projects 'rsynth' and 'festival' for text2speech, and 'pockesphinx' for speech2text ... Hi, I'm working on speech recognition for the N800. Plans and status can be found at http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/PocketSphinx and http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/GStreamerSphinx Oops, these URLs are wrong. They should be: http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/index.php/PocketSphinx http://lima.lti.cs.cmu.edu/mediawiki/index.php/GStreamerSphinx ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Sardine device upgrade failing for days now
Marius Vollmer wrote: I wouldn't be using such broad terms; _you_ haven't been able to upgrade to Sardine unstable for a couple of days now, but that doesn't mean that Sardine in general is broken. I (and others) actually use it daily and it works great for me. True, but it's been failing on every occasion I've tried to upgrade in the past two weeks now (maybe 7 or 8 seperate days during that period?) But of course, thanks for reporting the problem! :) Let's try to figure it out. Thanks, I appreciate your help. :) Preparing to replace dbus 0.61-osso28 (using .../dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dbus ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/var/run', which is also in package ssh Where did you install ssh from? It's regular old openssh. I've been having this same problem with regular openssh installed on 3.2007 and also openssh on a fresh install of 4.2007. The only apps I have installed on 4.2007 are xterm, openssh, Skype and Pidgin. Both dbus and ssh _do_ contain /var/run, but that's OK since it is a directory in both. Right now, I suspect you have a freaky ssh package that is causing the problems. Prior to the upgrade, my /var/run on the SD card is as follows: lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jul 16 14:35 /var/run - /tmp/.run This is my sources.list: deb http://repository.maemo.org sardine main non-free and these are the commands I'm executing - it's the upgrade that is failing, the hildon install goes without a hitch: apt-get update apt-get install hildon-application-framework apt-get -y --force-yes upgrade Are these repositories/commands still correct? The Wiki[1] seems to have a mistake in step 1.5 of the device upgrade where it recommends that sources.list should contain deb unstable main non-free which doesn't look right! I've just run a full upgrade against 4.2007 + xterm/openssh/Skype/Pidgin, all the way through from ext2 format, gnu tar until apt-get upgrade and again I get an error which relates to dbus - here's an extract of the output: # Preparing to replace libexpat1 1.95.8-4maemo (using .../libexpat1_1.95.8-4maemo_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libexpat1 ... Preparing to replace dbus 0.61-osso28 (using .../dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dbus ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/var/run', which is also in package ssh dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) groupadd: group messagebus exists useradd: user messagebus exists mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/run/': No such file or directory invoke-rc.d: initscript dbus, action start failed. dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Preparing to replace dbus-1-utils 0.61-osso28 (using .../dbus-1-utils_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dbus-1-utils ... Preparing to replace dosfstools 2.11-0osso1 (using .../dosfstools_2.11-0osso3_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dosfstools ... Preparing to replace galago-daemon 0.5.0-0osso4 (using .../galago-daemon_0.5.0-0osso4_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement galago-daemon ... Preparing to replace libfreetype6 2.2.1-1osso3 (using .../libfreetype6_2.2.1-1osso3_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libfreetype6 ... . . . Preparing to replace osso-obexsrv 0.12 (using .../osso-obexsrv_0.12.1_armel.deb) ... Stopping OBEX Server: dsmesock_connect: No such file or directory obexsrv. Unpacking replacement osso-obexsrv ... Preparing to replace osso-thumbnail0 0.7-1 (using .../osso-thumbnail0_0.9_armel.deb) ... Unpacking replacement osso-thumbnail0 ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ## Many thanks for your help! 1. http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_GetStartedWithSardine ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update for N800
Hi all, Nokia OSSO happily announces the release of the 'Internet Communications Software development update' for Maemo. This update brings you the latest developments in Internet messaging and call on Nokia n800 device destined for next Internet Tablet OS release. This release is a beta release and therefore may not be suitable for serious personal use. However, if you are interested in helping improve it, the update should be fairly usable and we encourage to try it. What is it? --- Internet Communications Software is a subsystem in Internet tablet OS 2007, running on Nokia n800 device, that handles presence, chat, voip and video call. It is based on Telepathy framework and components as explained at http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/ What is new? Number of things have improved since the last public update (Internet tablet OS 2007). Following are some of them: SIP support * Basic one-to-one VoIP calls * Messaging (using the MESSAGE method of SIMPLE). * Video call between two N800 devices. * NAT traversal using STUN. XMPP support enhancements * Avatars support * Presence status message * Google Talk relay support User interface updates * Updates in the Internet call UI * Updates in the Chat UI * Updates in the Account configuration UI * Updates in the Addressbook UI New APIs * Telepathy * Mission Control * Accounts * Telepathy-glib Download and screenshots http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/ Open the download link in n800 browser and go to install section Packages Following packages are updated in the release: libtelepathy 0.0.55-0osso3 telepathy-gabble 0.5.12-0osso4 telepathy-mission-control4.26-1beta2 telepathy-stream-engine 0.3.23-0osso2.2 telepathy-sofiasip 0.3.25-0osso1 telepathy-glib 0.5.13-0osso2 telepathy-feed 0.26-1 sofia-sip1.12.6-0osso4 evolution-data-server1.4.2.1-20070628 eds-sync 2.20070706 galago-daemon0.5.1-0osso2 libgalago0.5.2-0osso5 farsight 0.1.21-0osso1.9 gst-plugins-farsight 0.12.2-0osso1.7 libscw 0.4.6-1osso109 loudmouth1.3.1-0osso3 libjingle0.3.11-0osso3 libosso-rtcom2.0.12-1beta1 libimlogger 0.6-1 osso-mission-control 2.29-1beta osso-accounts3.13-1beta9 osso-rtcom-icons 0.0.1 osso-addressbook 2.20070706-beta5 osso-applet-presence 2.0.3-1beta osso-statusbar-presence 2.0.13-1beta3 osso-contact-plugin 2.0.9-1beta1 osso-chat-ui 2.0.28-1beta1 osso-voip-ui 2.0.42-1beta5 Limitations --- UI * Helps are missing * It only speaks English * Theming is missing (only default one is supported) SIP * Calls fail to establish media streams when the device is behind a symmetric NAT and the proxies do not deploy transparent media relaying. * Calls forked to multiple endpoints may fail to establish media streams. * Video is not interoperable with other implementations. * DTMF (RFC4733) is not reliable Feedback You are welcome to give your feedback on this software to: * maemo-devel mailing list: maemo-developers@maemo.org * Maemo bugzilla, RTCom component: http://bugzilla.maemo.org/ * Rtcomm mailing address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and enjoy! Regards, - Real time communications team, Maemo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Sardine device upgrade failing for days now
ext Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: True, but it's been failing on every occasion I've tried to upgrade in the past two weeks now (maybe 7 or 8 seperate days during that period?) Yes, but only for you. :-) Prior to the upgrade, my /var/run on the SD card is as follows: lrwxrwxrwx1 root root9 Jul 16 14:35 /var/run - /tmp/.run Aha! I can reproduce your problem this way: # mv /tmp/.run /tmp/.run2 # apt-get --reinstall install dbus [...] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dbus_1.0.2-0osso8_armel.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/var/run', which is also in package ssh [...] So, I conclude that something is wrong with your /tmp/.run and dpkg just gets cnfused about whether /var/run is a directory or not and singling out ssh as the culprit by chance. Can you debug the issues with /var/run a bit on your side? Are these repositories/commands still correct? They are correct, but the following should be better: deb http://repository.maemo.org/sardine unstable main non-free # apt-get upgrade # apt-get install hildon-application-framework # apt-get upgrade The Wiki[1] seems to have a mistake in step 1.5 of the device upgrade where it recommends that sources.list should contain deb unstable main non-free Some wiki markup problem, I'll check. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: R: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Marco Solari wrote: When You speak about acoustic models, You mean English acoustic models, is it true ? Do some different language acoustic models exist ? Do Italian language acoustic models exist ? If not, which do You think would be the effort to put it up, in terms of time and knowledge ? Yes, to get good accuracy, you need a different acoustic model for each language (and also preferably for different speaking styles, recording device, etc...) CMU will be releasing some more free acoustic models soon but I don't think Italian is one of the languages that we have. The GlobalPhone Project http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tanja/GlobalPhone/index-e-wel.html collected a lot of data from different languages and built multi-lingual acoustic models but I don't believe these are publicly available. However, Spanish (particularly American Spanish) acoustic models would probably work reasonably well for Italian, and we are going to release some of them soon. It's a large amount of work to make an acoustic model - for anything more than simple tasks you need to have at least 15 hours of speech from a number of different speakers. To actually record and transcribe this yourself is a lot of work, so it's advisable to use pre-existing databases of speech, such as you can get from the LDC (http://ldc.upenn.edu/) - I think there is a European consortium similar to this but I don't recall the name. Obviously there is a lot of data out there, such as radio and TV, European and national parliaments, but the problem is getting ahold of it and putting it into a form suitable for training. If you only need it to recognize your own speech then this is quite a lot easier and you won't have to record more than 500 sentences or so. We have a project here at CMU which allows you to do this over the Web, but it's not open to the public yet. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update for N800
Unable to install osso-rtcom-beta Application pacakges missing: evolution-data-server (=1.4.2.1.r554-3) On 7/16/07, Naba Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Nokia OSSO happily announces the release of the 'Internet Communications Software development update' for Maemo. This update brings you the latest developments in Internet messaging and call on Nokia n800 device destined for next Internet Tablet OS release. This release is a beta release and therefore may not be suitable for serious personal use. However, if you are interested in helping improve it, the update should be fairly usable and we encourage to try it. What is it? --- Internet Communications Software is a subsystem in Internet tablet OS 2007, running on Nokia n800 device, that handles presence, chat, voip and video call. It is based on Telepathy framework and components as explained at http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/ What is new? Number of things have improved since the last public update (Internet tablet OS 2007). Following are some of them: SIP support * Basic one-to-one VoIP calls * Messaging (using the MESSAGE method of SIMPLE). * Video call between two N800 devices. * NAT traversal using STUN. XMPP support enhancements * Avatars support * Presence status message * Google Talk relay support User interface updates * Updates in the Internet call UI * Updates in the Chat UI * Updates in the Account configuration UI * Updates in the Addressbook UI New APIs * Telepathy * Mission Control * Accounts * Telepathy-glib Download and screenshots http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/ Open the download link in n800 browser and go to install section Packages Following packages are updated in the release: libtelepathy 0.0.55-0osso3 telepathy-gabble 0.5.12-0osso4 telepathy-mission-control4.26-1beta2 telepathy-stream-engine 0.3.23-0osso2.2 telepathy-sofiasip 0.3.25-0osso1 telepathy-glib 0.5.13-0osso2 telepathy-feed 0.26-1 sofia-sip1.12.6-0osso4 evolution-data-server1.4.2.1-20070628 eds-sync 2.20070706 galago-daemon0.5.1-0osso2 libgalago0.5.2-0osso5 farsight 0.1.21-0osso1.9 gst-plugins-farsight 0.12.2-0osso1.7 libscw 0.4.6-1osso109 loudmouth1.3.1-0osso3 libjingle0.3.11-0osso3 libosso-rtcom2.0.12-1beta1 libimlogger 0.6-1 osso-mission-control 2.29-1beta osso-accounts3.13-1beta9 osso-rtcom-icons 0.0.1 osso-addressbook 2.20070706-beta5 osso-applet-presence 2.0.3-1beta osso-statusbar-presence 2.0.13-1beta3 osso-contact-plugin 2.0.9-1beta1 osso-chat-ui 2.0.28-1beta1 osso-voip-ui 2.0.42-1beta5 Limitations --- UI * Helps are missing * It only speaks English * Theming is missing (only default one is supported) SIP * Calls fail to establish media streams when the device is behind a symmetric NAT and the proxies do not deploy transparent media relaying. * Calls forked to multiple endpoints may fail to establish media streams. * Video is not interoperable with other implementations. * DTMF (RFC4733) is not reliable Feedback You are welcome to give your feedback on this software to: * maemo-devel mailing list: maemo-developers@maemo.org * Maemo bugzilla, RTCom component: http://bugzilla.maemo.org/ * Rtcomm mailing address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and enjoy! Regards, - Real time communications team, Maemo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update for N800
Hi, Naba Kumar wrote: New APIs * Telepathy * Mission Control * Accounts * Telepathy-glib it would be great if you could come up with a more detailed version of the 'writing own connection managers' howto, since gabble is far to complex to serve as a blueprint for other managers. regards -- jochen ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Hi David, snip Stuff I would appreciate some help with includes: * GStreamer. feel free to send gstreamer related stuff to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or come to gstreamer irc channel or just write back to me. Stefan * How to create a new input method. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Sardine device upgrade failing for days now
Hi Marius Manually creating /tmp/.run has now resulted in a successful Sardine upgrade using the sardine rather than unstable repo. I still don't think dbus should care whether /var/run physically exists or not, but assuming that isn't going to change it would be worth adding an extra step to the Wiki device upgrade instructions mentioning the need to mkdir /tmp/.run once the copy is completed (and after the chroot!) If unstable is synched correctly I'll use unstable in future, though it would be nice to understand why we need two Sardine repositories! Cheers Neil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Some weird questions about speech2text, text2speech, GPS ...
Julius Luukko wrote: gpsd is included in N800. Please see http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectivity_guide_bora.html http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtousegpsframeworkinos2007/ http://gpsd.berlios.de/ Please note, however, that there is an open bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621 While triaging that bug I wrote a small test program. So, if you're interested in pretty much the shortest possible example of using gpsd and libgpsbt on maemo take a look at https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/gpstest/?root=geoclue You might also be interested in the geoinformation framework Geoclue (at least for future projects): http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue https://garage.maemo.org/projects/geoclue/ HTH, Jussi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update for N800
Hi, I just talked to Naba, currently offline. This issue is known and confirmed now. It is caused by a last minute change. We can't fix it tonight but we hope to fix it tomorrow morning asap. As you see this is really software under development, fresh meat released publicly to be shared with other developers. Please be cautious when recommending this update to end users because this is not even a beta release as Nokia understands beta releases (of end user products). Thanks for your understanding. Sorry for this bug, but at least you got the news today. More news to come soon (and if you happen to be in GUADEC come and meet the developers). Unable to install osso-rtcom-beta Application pacakges missing: evolution-data-server (=1.4.2.1.r554-3) Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Sardine device upgrade failing for days now
ext Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manually creating /tmp/.run has now resulted in a successful Sardine upgrade using the sardine rather than unstable repo. Ok! Thanks for persisting! :) I still don't think dbus should care whether /var/run physically exists or not, This has nothing to do with dbus, and all with dpkg. The dbus package contains a directory /var/run/dbus and dpkg attempts to dutifully create it. It fails in an obscure way because of a broken symlink, however, and produces the misleading error message that the dbus package contains the same file as some another package that also happens to contain the /var/run/ directory. That it happened with dbus and ssh in your case is a coincidence. Hacking the dbus package to get over this is ugly and will not solve the problem. We would have to put the same ugly hack into all packages that contain /var/run/. The right thing is to make sure that the system has a useable /var/run, always. but assuming that isn't going to change it would be worth adding an extra step to the Wiki device upgrade instructions mentioning the need to mkdir /tmp/.run once the copy is completed (and after the chroot!) Yes, that might be acceptable to save a reboot. But I guess there might more issues when you chroot. What about /proc, /sysfs, and /dev? I'll have to check the instructions... If unstable is synched correctly I'll use unstable in future, though it would be nice to understand why we need two Sardine repositories! Hrmm, yeah, we don't _need_ two repositories. We only have two right now because I didn't get around to make the 'sardine' one unneccesary. The 'unstable' one is the only one we will have in the future. It also contains 'testing', for example (which isn't really useful yet). ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Launch of Mobile and Internet Linux Project (moblin.org)
We are happy to announce the launch of the Mobile Internet Linux Project on http://moblin.org . Moblin.org is an umbrella open source project focused on the development of Linux for Intel-based devices. Moblin.org will also be an incubator for prototyping new ideas and building a community of developers around them. Currently, Moblin.org hosts a number of projects including an image creator, a UI framework, a power policy manager and various non-PC oriented applications and software components. The work so far has been focused on Intel based devices but is open to contributions for support of other architectures. We share a lot with the Maemo community as we are built on GNOME Mobile components, use the Hildon Application Framework, and share many of the same UI design goals for hand-held mobile devices. We look forward to synergy between the two communities. Bob Spencer Intel Open Source Technology Center ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: ANNOUNCE: Internet Communications Software Update for N800
This is great news! I look forward to trying it out on my N800 (and filling bugzilla reports :]). Not only is this how I wished the SIP integration would be since the beginning of the 770 but it is also very nice to see some more Nokia internal development exposed to the outside world. Best regards, /Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
hacker edition status and future?
Hello, since now the project is revived and some work is going on, I'd like to raise this again. It would be nice if someone involved in this project could comment this http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-May/010280.html Next version is coming as rootfs. There is no kernel updates. I guess this project is not exactly top secret like regular firmwares so more open process would be nice. Same components are used as in n800 version, but the kernel is older 2.6.16. There is lot of work if n800 version of the kernel is used. I have also raised it here https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=612 , feel free to answer where it is appropriate. Opinions can differ but I still think this list would be better for such discussion due to bigger audience http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-May/010283.html To discussion yes, patches to garage-project. Frantisek I'll try to check to day those mail. - Joni ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
