Re: about x-server on maemo

2009-07-01 Thread daniel wilms
Hi,

so, as you mean, if I want run Diablo
 and application relate it on arm9, I should recompile them by myself from
 the sources?

We are not completely sure, why the X-Server does not work, but we assumed that 
it could be a problem that it includes some assembly code, which doesn't run on 
an older ARM. You could try to rebuild it as suggested. If you succeed you 
might be able to run it. But you would have to try it, we cannot guarantee that 
it will work ;)

Cheers Daniel
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RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi, 

-Original Message-
From: ext Ryan Abel [mailto:rabe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 July, 2009 03:05
Diablo released

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
 The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has 
released installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta 
for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool 
supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming Fremantle devices.


One step forward and two steps back.

Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one step 
forward (before ending up being one step backward :)


No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right along 
without telling users that they're installing something they 
can't even use.

Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could you explain in more 
detailed your installation problems. E.g. do you try to install Windows XP or 
Windows Vista or Mac OS X 10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or ...

Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I do not Mac myself 
well enoug to say if architecture can be defined to the Mac installation 
package so that you will get some sensible error message if you try to install 
wrong architecture binary. 

Cheers,
//Jarmo
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rtorrent make fails

2009-07-01 Thread Jonni Nakari
Hi,
i am trying to build rtorrent (http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/) in my 
Maemo 3.1 sdk environment but the make keeps failing:

/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CXX   --mode=link g++  -g -O2 -g -DDEBUG 
-I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include   
-I/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/include   -o rtorrent 
command_download.o command_dynamic.o command_events.o command_file.o 
command_helpers.o command_local.o command_network.o command_object.o 
command_peer.o command_tracker.o command_scheduler.o command_ui.o 
control.o globals.o main.o option_parser.o signal_handler.o 
ui/libsub_ui.a core/libsub_core.a display/libsub_display.a 
input/libsub_input.a rpc/libsub_rpc.a utils/libsub_utils.a -lncurses  
-lsigc-2.0   -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/scratchbox/host_shared/lib/ 
-Wl,/scratchbox/tools/lib/ -Wl,/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib/ 
-L/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib -lcurl   -ltorrent
libtool: link: warning: library `/usr/lib/libtorrent.la' was moved.
libtool: link: warning: library `/usr/lib/libtorrent.la' was moved.
libtool: link: g++ -g -O2 -g -DDEBUG -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/include 
-o rtorrent command_download.o command_dynamic.o command_events.o 
command_file.o command_helpers.o command_local.o command_network.o 
command_object.o command_peer.o command_tracker.o command_scheduler.o 
command_ui.o control.o globals.o main.o option_parser.o signal_handler.o 
-Wl,-rpath -Wl,/scratchbox/host_shared/lib/ -Wl,/scratchbox/tools/lib/ 
-Wl,/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib/  ui/libsub_ui.a 
core/libsub_core.a display/libsub_display.a input/libsub_input.a 
rpc/libsub_rpc.a utils/libsub_utils.a -lncurses 
-L/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib 
/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib/libcurl.so -lidn -lssl -ldl -lz 
/usr/lib/libtorrent.so -lcrypto /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so -Wl,-rpath 
-Wl,/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib -Wl,-rpath 
-Wl,/scratchbox/devkits/maemo3-tools/lib
/scratchbox/tools/lib/: file not recognized: Is a directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
...

full output of ./configure:
http://pastebin.com/m206173bd
full output of make:
http://pastebin.com/m5bb848c3

What kind of modifications should i make to rtorrent or to my 
environment to get it build?

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RE: Beagleboard touchscreens?

2009-07-01 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org 
[mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext 
Murray Cumming
Sent: 30 June, 2009 20:48
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Beagleboard touchscreens?

I'm going to buy some BeagleBoards for the Openismus office.
http://beagleboard.org/
I'd like to try installing Maemo 5 on them, which I believe is 
possible, and which will be a learning experience.

I hear that Mer can be used with a mouse instead of just a 
touchscreen, but I'd like to install Maemo as intended, so I 
think we'll need touchscreen displays. So does anyone know of 
any touchscreen hardware that will definitely work with 
beagleboard and Maemo?

Hi Murray,

This will most definitely work with the BeagleBoard:
http://elinux.org/Xenarc_USB_touchscreen_for_Beagleboard/OMAP3_EVM

We've got one of those in the office working with a BeagleBoard.
It has DVI input (you'll need a HDMI-to-DVI converter) and a
separate USB connection for the touchscreen.
It's not cheap though.
A minor annoyance - particularly if you are in a hurry - is
that Xenarc will not take foreign (as in non-US)
credit cards so you need to wire them the money before they ship.
Nevertheless I found their customer service responsive and
professional (in dealing with the order). They shipped it
quickly and it came in good shape.

Br,
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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Ryan Abel
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:

One step forward and two steps back.

 Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one step 
 forward (before ending up being one step backward :)


It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(


No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right along
without telling users that they're installing something they
can't even use.

 Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could you explain in more 
 detailed your installation problems. E.g. do you try to install Windows XP or 
 Windows Vista or Mac OS X 10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or ...


I don't use Windows, and, by and large, I don't use Linux.

 Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I do not Mac myself 
 well enoug to say if architecture can be defined to the Mac installation 
 package so that you will get some sensible error message if you try to 
 install wrong architecture binary.


Yes, because PPC OS X is basically the only thing I have access to on
a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer that it should check
the architecture. No, you shouldn't be doing that because you should
be compiling a PPC binary.
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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread gary liquid
is it possible to do tablet-tablet flashing?

(serious question)

most of us now have more than one device and since not all of us have linux
or windows available (hiya GA), having a native solution would be a possible
quicker workaround

gary

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ryan Abel rabe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:

 One step forward and two steps back.
 
  Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one
 step forward (before ending up being one step backward :)
 

 It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(

 
 No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right along
 without telling users that they're installing something they
 can't even use.
 
  Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could you explain in
 more detailed your installation problems. E.g. do you try to install Windows
 XP or Windows Vista or Mac OS X 10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or
 ...
 

 I don't use Windows, and, by and large, I don't use Linux.

  Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I do not Mac
 myself well enoug to say if architecture can be defined to the Mac
 installation package so that you will get some sensible error message if you
 try to install wrong architecture binary.
 

 Yes, because PPC OS X is basically the only thing I have access to on
 a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer that it should check
 the architecture. No, you shouldn't be doing that because you should
 be compiling a PPC binary.
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HildonWindow dimensions not updated on unfullscreen in Fremantle SDK beta

2009-07-01 Thread Luca Donaggio
Any hint?

-- Forwarded message --
From: Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Subject: HildonWindow dimensions not updated on unfullscreen in Fremantle
SDK beta
To: Maemo developers mailing-list maemo-developers@maemo.org


Hi all,

I'm attaching a callback function to the expose event of my app HildonWindow
to detect size changes occurring after a screen orientation change or a
fullscreen / unfullscreen button press.
Everything works quite well, except after coming back from fullscreen: in
this case it seems that no expose events is triggered (my callback function
is never called). Is it right?
What is the correct way to do this? I need to detect window's size changes
to rescale the image displayed inside of it.

Here's my code:

g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT (myapp-mainwin),expose_event,
G_CALLBACK (detect_main_window_changes),myapp);


gboolean detect_main_window_changes (GtkWidget *widget,GdkEvent
*event,app_data_t *myapp) {
switch (event-type) {
case GDK_EXPOSE :
scale_image(GTK_WIDGET (myapp-mainwin),myapp);
return TRUE;
}
return FALSE;
}

Thanks,

Luca Donaggio
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RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi,

I found something to comment from this last email :). 

access to on a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer 
that it should check the architecture. No, you shouldn't be 

If same installer can be used to install both x86 and PCC binaries depending on 
which PC you run installation package that would be great. Anyhow I think we 
can make at least separate PCC installation package when we will have PCC Mac 
to make it.

that it should check the architecture. No, you shouldn't be 
doing that because you should be compiling a PPC binary.

Nobody has told me if PCC binary can be build on x86 Mac. If not it will take 
some time to make PCC version of flasher-3.5 even when it is just rebuilding 
(at least in theory it should be just rebuilding task).

Cheers,
//Jarmo

-Original Message-
From: ext Ryan Abel [mailto:rabe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 July, 2009 15:37
To: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org; maemo-us...@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and 
Diablo released

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:

One step forward and two steps back.

 Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at 
least one 
 step forward (before ending up being one step backward :)


It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(


No PPC binary, and the installer will happily chug right 
along without 
telling users that they're installing something they can't even use.

 Only x86 and 32-bit support with this beta release. Could 
you explain in more detailed your installation problems. E.g. 
do you try to install Windows XP or Windows Vista or Mac OS X 
10.x or Debian Linux or some other Linux or ...


I don't use Windows, and, by and large, I don't use Linux.

 Or are you trying to install Mac flasher-3.5 to PPC Mac? I 
do not Mac myself well enoug to say if architecture can be 
defined to the Mac installation package so that you will get 
some sensible error message if you try to install wrong 
architecture binary.


Yes, because PPC OS X is basically the only thing I have 
access to on a regular basis. Yes, you can tell the installer 
that it should check the architecture. No, you shouldn't be 
doing that because you should be compiling a PPC binary.

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RE: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Jarmo.Tikka
Hi,

[jot] some answers below...

From: ext gary liquid [mailto:liq...@gmail.com]
Sent: 01 July, 2009 15:58
To: Ryan Abel
Cc: Tikka Jarmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki); maemo-us...@maemo.org; 
maemo-developers@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

is it possible to do tablet-tablet flashing?

(serious question)

[jot]  I think it is not possible because Tablet USB port drivers do not 
support it but I am not sure. What is possible is to use 
/usr/sbin/fiasco_flasher available from Tablet to flash images from mmc card.

most of us now have more than one device and since not all of us have linux or 
windows available (hiya GA), having a native solution would be a possible 
quicker workaround

[jot] The easies way to do flashing we be from PC but maybe it would be enough 
for you to flash from inside Tablet. BTW no quarantine this will work as I have 
not tested this myself.

Cheers,
//Jarmo

gary

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Re: HildonWindow dimensions not updated on unfullscreen in Fremantle SDK beta

2009-07-01 Thread Luca Donaggio
Thank you Daniel,

no problem, I'll wait!

Luca Donaggio

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:59 PM, daniel wilms daniel.wi...@nokia.com wrote:

 Hi,

 there was a similar problem with the callback function lately, and I try to
 figure out what's wrong there. Please a bit more patience :) Hopefully
 tomorrow I can come up with some information.

 cheers Daniel
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Re: HildonWindow dimensions not updated on unfullscreen in Fremantle SDK beta

2009-07-01 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 03:40:08PM +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:

 I'm attaching a callback function to the expose event of my app
 HildonWindow to detect size changes occurring after a screen
 orientation change or a fullscreen / unfullscreen button press.

'expose' is generated when a part of the window becomes visible.

For this case I think that you should use GdkScreen:size-changed
to detect orientation changes and GtkWidget:window-state-event for
fullscreen changes (see the documentation of gtk_window_fullscreen()).

is_fs = (event-new_window_state  GDK_WINDOW_STATE_FULLSCREEN);

Berto
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Re: HildonWindow dimensions not updated on unfullscreen in Fremantle SDK beta

2009-07-01 Thread Luca Donaggio
You're right on the expose event, of course.
But detecting when an event of type GDK_CONFIGURE has occurred shouldn't be
more correct? From GDK literature [1], an event of type GDK_CONFIGURE is
Generated when a window size or position has changed.
That should cover all the bases (ie screen orientation and window fullscreen
/ unfullscreen changes), I think I'll try it and let you know if it works.

Thanks,

Luca Donaggio

[1]
http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/gdk/gdk-Event-Structures.html#GdkEventConfigure

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Alberto Garcia agar...@igalia.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 03:40:08PM +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:

  I'm attaching a callback function to the expose event of my app
  HildonWindow to detect size changes occurring after a screen
  orientation change or a fullscreen / unfullscreen button press.

 'expose' is generated when a part of the window becomes visible.

 For this case I think that you should use GdkScreen:size-changed
 to detect orientation changes and GtkWidget:window-state-event for
 fullscreen changes (see the documentation of gtk_window_fullscreen()).

 is_fs = (event-new_window_state  GDK_WINDOW_STATE_FULLSCREEN);

 Berto
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Re: HildonWindow dimensions not updated on unfullscreen in Fremantle SDK beta

2009-07-01 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 05:57:20PM +0200, Luca Donaggio wrote:

 But detecting when an event of type GDK_CONFIGURE has occurred
 shouldn't be more correct?

Ah, yes, if you only want to detect changes in the size of the window
I think that should be enough :)

Berto
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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 06/30/2009 08:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
 The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation 
 packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows. 
 Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming 
 Fremantle devices.
 

Any plan to release the source code of the Flasher?


Hub
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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 01.07.2009, 13:06 -0400 schrieb Hubert Figuiere:
 Any plan to release the source code of the Flasher?

Also see a thread from November/December 2008:
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-November/001367.html
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-December/001396.html

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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Faheem Pervez
*If* Nokia have no intention of open-sourcing this version of the
flasher (because it can flash the new tablet and Nokia may not like
the idea of releasing code relating to the internals of the new
tablet), then I'd sincerely hope that they would at release the code
to 3.0  as Nokia (yes, I mean Nokia: I'm not referring to Mer here)
have no intention of providing updates for the devices flasher-3.0
supports (not bitter about it in any way - I'm just telling it as a
statement of fact), it would be nice to have the source code to that
version. Of course: Only if this version or the latest final version -
whatever that may be - can't be open-sourced for whatever reason.

Best Regards,
Faheem

On 7/1/09, Hubert Figuiere h...@figuiere.net wrote:
 On 06/30/2009 08:41 AM, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:
 The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released
 installation packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS
 X and Windows. Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo
 devices and coming Fremantle devices.


 Any plan to release the source code of the Flasher?


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Re: Beagleboard touchscreens?

2009-07-01 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi,

oh very nice, but even more pricey than my solution. And of
course less hackish :-)

Till

Am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009 schrieb carlos.guerre...@nokia.com:
 From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org 
 [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext 
 Murray Cumming
 Sent: 30 June, 2009 20:48
 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
 Subject: Beagleboard touchscreens?
 
 I'm going to buy some BeagleBoards for the Openismus office.
 http://beagleboard.org/
 I'd like to try installing Maemo 5 on them, which I believe is 
 possible, and which will be a learning experience.
 
 I hear that Mer can be used with a mouse instead of just a 
 touchscreen, but I'd like to install Maemo as intended, so I 
 think we'll need touchscreen displays. So does anyone know of 
 any touchscreen hardware that will definitely work with 
 beagleboard and Maemo?
 
 Hi Murray,
 
 This will most definitely work with the BeagleBoard:
 http://elinux.org/Xenarc_USB_touchscreen_for_Beagleboard/OMAP3_EVM
 
 We've got one of those in the office working with a BeagleBoard.
 It has DVI input (you'll need a HDMI-to-DVI converter) and a
 separate USB connection for the touchscreen.
 It's not cheap though.
 A minor annoyance - particularly if you are in a hurry - is
 that Xenarc will not take foreign (as in non-US)
 credit cards so you need to wire them the money before they ship.
 Nevertheless I found their customer service responsive and
 professional (in dealing with the order). They shipped it
 quickly and it came in good shape.
 
 Br,
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RE: Beagleboard touchscreens?

2009-07-01 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 10:29 +0200, carlos.guerre...@nokia.com wrote:
 This will most definitely work with the BeagleBoard:
 http://elinux.org/Xenarc_USB_touchscreen_for_Beagleboard/OMAP3_EVM
 
 We've got one of those in the office working with a BeagleBoard.
 It has DVI input (you'll need a HDMI-to-DVI converter) and a
 separate USB connection for the touchscreen.
 It's not cheap though.
 A minor annoyance - particularly if you are in a hurry - is
 that Xenarc will not take foreign (as in non-US)
 credit cards so you need to wire them the money before they ship.
 Nevertheless I found their customer service responsive and
 professional (in dealing with the order). They shipped it
 quickly and it came in good shape.

Thanks. I think we'll get one. 400 USD plus shipping doesn't seem too
awful.

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www.murrayc.com
www.openismus.com

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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Kees Jongenburger
Hi Ryan

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Ryan Abelrabe...@gmail.com wrote:
 (Sorry for the terrible quoting. You all knoe exactly how useless an
 application Modest is. :))

Still not acceptable


 There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open
 source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity?
There are other project the 0x flasher out there and not enough people
tried and used it so what is the point?


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Re: Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Fremantle and Diablo released

2009-07-01 Thread Ryan Abel
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kees
Jongenburgerkees.jongenbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open
 source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity?

 There are other project the 0x flasher out there and not enough people
 tried and used it so what is the point?


Define enough, please. I've certainly seen plenty of people getting
good use out of it, so it certainly seems like enough to me. If
you're expecting a mass migration from a functional, tested
manufacturer-provided to an 3rd-party solution of unknown quality
which provides little in the way of additional features, well, of
course it's not going to be enough.

Really, the right question to be asking is Why not?. The
justifications should be for keeping things closed, not making them
open.
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