Re: Developing Map-based apps for N900
Perhaps a QtWebKit widget + different map sources could be a good solution.. I don't know if that is similar to how already N900 Maps app work 2009/12/8 Paul Drummond paul.drumm...@iode.co.uk: If I want to develop an app that integrates with a map plugin, then obviously I want to use Ovi maps but the Ovi Maps SDK doesn't support Maemo and as far as I know the Ovi Maps app for Maemo can't be used as a plugin. There must be work going on behind the scenes to resolve this situation - in the mean time I would be greatly appreciated if someone from Nokia could provide some direction so developer like myself avoid wasting time on solutions that might be dead-ends when the real solution is eventually announced. The way I see it there are several potential solutions: 1) I could write a Qt App that embeds Ovi Maps into a QtWebKit widget. I don't think this is currently possible due to it's lack of support for Maemo/Linux but I will do some prototyping here any way and see how far I get. 2) Write a Qt app that embeds Google Maps into a QtWebKit widget. 3) Wait for a dedicated Ovi Maps plugin for Maemo to be developed. Will there ever be such a plugin? Can someone from Nokia comment on this please? Thank you, Paul Drummond ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?
We live on an eternal week, and still waiting... I hope someone will let me play with his/her N900 in Barcelona because I haven't seen one yet (is it true? has it been released?) :D Best regards, 2009/12/3 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com: 2009/12/3 ds d...@physik.de: Christmas is approaching, and to me it is absolutly not transparent, what happend to a N900 Developer Device Program. I could not find any information on maemo.org. Detlef what do you mean by new information ? Are you aware of this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32951 -- anidel Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: WRT or W3C widgets
Sure, I could be misreading.. but perhaps OVI SDK is the answer ;) 2009/9/1 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:49, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuentejsmanri...@gmail.com wrote: Well, again, I have to answer myself. It seems that W3C widgets will work in Maemo 5, or at least is under development: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0086.html [...]An application author wrote an application for Maemo 4, and we tested it in Maemo 5[...] I think you are misreading that quote. timeless is explaining localisation (l10n) problems with a design, and uses Maemo Mapper as an example. He then describes Maemo Mapper by equating it with a widget. HTH, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ Maemo Community Council chair -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: WRT or W3C widgets
Nice question for Nokia World QA Wiki [1], I've added it [1] http://wiki.maemo.org/NokiaWorld_2009_QA#N900_browser_questions 2009/9/1 Delfim Machado d...@co.sapo.pt: Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS web 2.0, do you plan to support WRT/ W3C widgets? Best. DM ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: WRT or W3C widgets
It seems I can add the answer to the wiki too :( It seems interesting seeing that Nokia will add Nokia WRT support in Maemo (based on Webkit in Symbian devices) since it is using Gecko/Mozilla runtime in Maemo... Are maemo WRT people involved (somehow) in W3C WebbApps initiative[1]? I know Art Barstow is one of co-chairs, so, who knows.. (reading W3C meetings minutes I've found some references to maemo) [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/ 2009/9/1 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com: Hello, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Delfim Machado d...@co.sapo.pt wrote: Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS web 2.0, do you plan to support WRT/ W3C widgets? I guess Nokia WRT will be supported, according to the Maemo Summit talks[1], but I don't saw any official announcement on that so far. [1] - http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Schedule Best, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Best. DM ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: WRT or W3C widgets
Well, again, I have to answer myself. It seems that W3C widgets will work in Maemo 5, or at least is under development: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0086.html [...]An application author wrote an application for Maemo 4, and we tested it in Maemo 5[...] Since W3C Mobile Web Initiative (where I am involved) is near to its end, I hope I could join W3C WebApps... 2009/9/1 Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente jsmanri...@gmail.com: It seems I can add the answer to the wiki too :( It seems interesting seeing that Nokia will add Nokia WRT support in Maemo (based on Webkit in Symbian devices) since it is using Gecko/Mozilla runtime in Maemo... Are maemo WRT people involved (somehow) in W3C WebbApps initiative[1]? I know Art Barstow is one of co-chairs, so, who knows.. (reading W3C meetings minutes I've found some references to maemo) [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/ 2009/9/1 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com: Hello, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Delfim Machado d...@co.sapo.pt wrote: Hi all, i've searched in the archives and found nothing about this, so here is my question. Since this is mobile computer/OS web 2.0, do you plan to support WRT/ W3C widgets? I guess Nokia WRT will be supported, according to the Maemo Summit talks[1], but I don't saw any official announcement on that so far. [1] - http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Schedule Best, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Best. DM ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: question on python opengl ES bindings
Maybe I am wrong, but it seems that there is a python-opengles binding: http://www.unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/projects/maemo/ Will pyglet run in Fremantle? http://www.pyglet.org/ Best regards, 2009/3/10 Jayesh Salvi jayeshsa...@gmail.com: Hi, I was investigating OpenGL python bindings on Fremantle. As I understand from previous discussion on this topic: although PyOpenGL will work in Fremantle SDK, it won't work on real hardware which will run OpenGL ES. So I started looking for python bindings for OpenGL ES. From the top search results, I found out the pys60 project by Nokia has bindings for OpenGL ES (http://www.khronos.org/message_boards/viewtopic.php?f=4t=855). (I am surprised to see how old that post is.) I checked the pys60 source code 1.4.5 and it indeed has opengles bindings. My question is, is there a plan to have similar OpenGL ES python bindings on Fremantle? Or is it just clutter and pyclutter? Thanks, Jayesh ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Frets on Fire on Fremantle
[...]Playing the game itself on the touchscreen might be problematic when having to register more than one press at the same time, though[...] So, no multitouch screen.. right? ;-) Anyway, cool port! 2009/3/5 Quim Gil quim@nokia.com: Gil Quim (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote: By the way, do you mind uploading your packages to http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/ ? This way you don't need to mix the Diablo repositories and we start building a Fremantle extras common library. Same for the rest of developers starting to develop with Fremantle. Sorry for the noise: I thought the repo was accessible with direct uploads but now I have been told that it's not, and the autobuilder is not yet in place. The guys in the know are working on this. -- Quim Gil open source advocate Maemo Software @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Beta testing a simple communication package
Sounds interesting! 2009/1/17, Cedric Cellier ri...@happyleptic.org: -[ Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 09:02:17PM +, Andrew Flegg ] How does it relate to Telepathy, Conduit and OpenSync; if at all? It's independant on anything. I didn't knew Conduit nor OpenSync, but considered Kolab before rejecting it because of being too complex. I needed something dead simple so that I could easily add anything that pops up in my mind : list manager, project management, instant messaging, video conferencing, geolocalization sharing, or anything new one need. To achieve this, I had to throw out of the client compatibility with external protocols - while Telepathy, for instance, is more an abstract layer above them. When compatibility to other protocols is required, it's implemented on a central server as a gateway. Needing a central server is really the price to pay here, but it also much simpler than multi-host peer to peer synchronisation, and offer some possibilities (like, say, archiving voice calls for free). I know that one should try to reuse existing software before starting adding his own pile of stuff to the enormous stock of bad code that already exist out there. I just couldn't resist :-) So if you are interrested by unified communication and/or cloud computing (sorry for so many buzwords), curious or just plain masochist, and are able to ssh you way through your tablet's file system, please drop me a note. Definitely. Thank you. I will let you know where and when the software is debianized. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo development on Mac OS X
Try vmware+linux+maemo sdk 2009/1/5, Ove Nordström ove.nordst...@gmail.com: *I was wondering if there is a way to **install a Maemo development on Mac OS X? Regards, Ove * -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: PIM stuff (was Re: Projects Nokia should support (yours?))
I would add Pimlico apps from OpenHand... It would be nice adding Remember the Milk API [1](tasks based in location)... I've been researching a bit using RTM python API [1] http://www.rememberthemilk.com/services/api/ 2008/10/24, Sarah Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Greaves wrote: I propose: * The GPE suite (especially synchronising) * Canola (some limitations that become annoying quickly) GPE seconded FWIW. I might be able to help with finger-friendliness and maybe location-based task reminders (as I have the time, no kidding this is short for many of us.) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Projects Nokia should support (yours?)
Hello Quim, I am not sure where this list should be, but I suppose maemo wiki could be a good place: http://wiki.maemo.org/Projects_Nokia_should_support Sorry, I have added more than 5 projects and not everyone is a real existing project, but you can edit it and change whatever you want ;-) About 2008/10/22 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to support cool projects. http://flors.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/calling-all-innovators/ http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-October/001090.html Was the call so casual that it ended up being unclear? We want to support a bunch of projects getting ready for primetime the same day maemo 5 is released. And we propose the community to help out selecting those projects. What kind of support? Whatever those cool projects under development need to be stable and exciting for real users. You tell us and we will do our best helping you. If you have questions ask. But don't let this for next week because we would like to have a list of proposals by the end of the month, decide soon the projects to support and start working with them. -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source Maemo Software @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Projects Nokia should support (yours?)
Sorry, it was my fault, it already exists a page for proposals: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkable_community_projects#Proposals_for_Fremantle_Stars Thanks and best regards, 2008/10/22 Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Quim, I am not sure where this list should be, but I suppose maemo wiki could be a good place: http://wiki.maemo.org/Projects_Nokia_should_support Sorry, I have added more than 5 projects and not everyone is a real existing project, but you can edit it and change whatever you want ;-) About 2008/10/22 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a bit surprised about the little discussion generated by our call to support cool projects. http://flors.wordpress.com/2008/10/17/calling-all-innovators/ http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-October/001090.html Was the call so casual that it ended up being unclear? We want to support a bunch of projects getting ready for primetime the same day maemo 5 is released. And we propose the community to help out selecting those projects. What kind of support? Whatever those cool projects under development need to be stable and exciting for real users. You tell us and we will do our best helping you. If you have questions ask. But don't let this for next week because we would like to have a list of proposals by the end of the month, decide soon the projects to support and start working with them. -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source Maemo Software @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
IOError: decoder jpeg not available
Hello,
I have same program[1] running in a N800 and N810 (both with Diablo
and Easy 0.7 installed), but when I try to take a photo or load an
image I get this in the N800:
IOError: decoder jpeg not available (in the N810 works fine)
I am not sure if it is a PIL or Easy bug, but after testing in
console, it seems a PIL bug:
N800
Import Image
im=Image.load('Apple.jpg')
im.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
File -l/ImageFile.py, line 180, in load
File -l/Image.py, line 375, in _getdecoder
IOError: decoder jpeg not available
N810
Import Image
im=Image.load('Apple.jpg')
im.load()
PixelAccess object at 0x403060a0
Why is this difference?
Thanks and best regards,
[1] https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=510release_id=2060
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Re: Maemo SDK VMware Appliance 0.7
Will somebody carry a copy of it (compressed) for Maemo Summit?? 2008/9/9 Marcelo Lira [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello folks, there is a new image available, it comes with Diablo, ESBox Eclipse plugin and the latest Maemo software. http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ -- Marcelo Lira dos Santos http://setanta.wordpress.com INdT: http://www.indt.org.br CInLUG: http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~cinlug ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: PIL and camera.py
Hi,
I am looking for original camera.py but I can't find it... could
somebody provide a link for it?
Thanks nad best regards,
2008/8/13 Alex T. W. LEUNG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi maemo developers,
I notice that there was an email with the captioned subject from D.
Scott Brown last email.
The below code fragment works from me, see if it helps for anyone who
are interested in enhancing the camera.py example.
def buffer_cb(pad, buffer):
# Here you have a chance to do something with the image buffer
w,h=320,240
print buffer.size
im = Image.frombuffer('RGB', (w,h), buffer.data, 'raw', 'RGB',
0, 1)
im.save(foo2.jpeg, JPEG)
return True
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Re: Next chat (was Re: Let's do something together in LinuxTag)
Hello, I think we should have some kind of agenda, previously published, with few points (to make it practical). Pending topics should go to wiki or similar, to be discussed in next meetings, i.e. 2008/5/16 Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, the chat was fun but there were some impracticalities. Fine for the first time but, as you say, better alternatives should be tried in next occasions. For instance, what about choosing one topic (or two) and go through it? Of course having questions in advance helps but it is also obvious that new questions arise during the discussion. It is more about moving inside a topic and having a real discussion around it. Also, if the topic is defined and we all have a previous idea of what are the concerns and main talk points, the right people can put can organize themselves to be there and it is more clear what is on topic and when we go off focus. -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source maemo software @ Nokia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Let's do something together in LinuxTag
Is the irc meeting log available somewhere? Thanks, 2008/5/14 Sebastian Mancke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quim Gil schrieb: Hi, ext Kees Jongenburger wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Simon Pickering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about what to present at linuxtag. I can not easely make a choice right now because we are lacking some form of grand goal. Can we try to elaborate on the topics? perhaps also have an irc meeting between linuxtag contributors? Sounds useful, what about after the IRC meeting tomorrow evening? Hello Simon, Yes sounds fair. I will be there as well. :) Sorry, I could not attend. If there were substantial decisions made, could someone please summarize them and add them to the Linuxtag2008 wiki page? --Sebastian -- tarent Gesellschaft für Softwareentwicklung und IT-Beratung mbH Heilsbachstr. 24, 53123 Bonn| Poststr. 4-5, 10178 Berlin fon: +49(228) / 52675-0 | fon: +49(30) / 27594853 fax: +49(228) / 52675-25| fax: +49(30) / 78709617 durchwahl: +49(228) / 52675-17 | mobil: +49(171) / 7673249 Geschäftsführer: Boris Esser, Elmar Geese, Thomas Müller-Ackermann HRB AG Bonn 5168 Ust-ID: DE122264941 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 available in Spain, but contribution code not working
Yes, it doesn't work 2008/1/29, Álvaro J. Iradier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, finally, after waiting for so long, N810 is available in Nokia shop in Spain. However, the discount code doesn't work. Not the first one, not the one I got in the last email. What's so wrong? Is it so difficult to make the discount codes work? What can we do about it? Greets. -- (:===:) Alvaro J. Iradier Muro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Contribution code, ...
Not working in Spain yet 2008/1/3, Jan Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Just checkout http://www.jan-jansen.be Cheers, Jan ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 availability?
N810 already appears in Spanish Nokia site: Price: 400 EUR Not available for purchasing yet. Stay tuned ;-) 2007/11/23, Andrew Flegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 20, 2007 6:13 AM, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] We are silently working to get all the exact dates you are waiting for. We will communicate them as soon as they are confirmed. Yes, I understand... Is there anything you can do a little less silently? Such as comment (or even *hint*) as to what the delay *is*? I'm sure hkwilliamson is enjoying his device, but it's a little gauling to read the following when there's no sign of a) the US developers being able to use the codes for their store [when the N810 is supposedly launched in the US] and b) there's no sign of it anywhere before December in Europe: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=99047#post99047 Another sign of the growing frustration is the coincidence of two blogs postings on this topic within seconds of each other on planet.maemo (admittedly, one of them's mine ;-)). Of course, I'm sure it's as frustrating to you having a finished product and /not/ have it in the hands of your top/most lucky 500 users. Anything you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N810 availability?
Just check the online shop: http://tienda.nokia.es/nokia-es/product.aspx?sku=3752621culture=es-ES 2007/11/23, Andrea Grandi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, 2007/11/23, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]: N810 already appears in Spanish Nokia site: Price: 400 EUR Not available for purchasing yet. Stay tuned ;-) cannot see the price: http://www.nokia.es/A4630461 -- Andrea Grandi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.ptlug.org -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.es ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-11)
It still says that python2.5=2.5.0-1osso10 is missing in my device (770). I have uninstalled python2.5-runtime (0.4-8), but now I am not able to install the new version available... 2007/6/27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all! A new PyMaemo release is ready. This one includes: -Bugfix[1]; -Osso help and Osso IC support; -Upgraded iPython; -Python OSSO examples. Thanks to all contributors! Regards, Luciano Wolf [1] http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Dates update in 770 (missing packages)
Hello, Dates appears as an update in my App Manager (from 0.2-1 to 0.3.1-1) but when I try to install it, it gives an error about missing packages: hildon-libs0 = 0.12.24-3 libedataserver = 1.4.2.1 libpang About the last one (libpang), I am not sure if it is a Dates problem... Any idea? Is it a bug? -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?
What's wrong with Minimo port? It's Mozilla core too... 2007/1/20, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Out of curiosity, I will love to know if Epiphany can be ported to Maemo platform for Nokia 770 N800 devices. I certainly don't wanna miss my favorite browser on N800. http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Python 2.5 in 770
Has anybody tried maemo-python 2.5 in 770? I've tried to get the packages but Application Manager fails with them!! Thanks in advance, -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Python 2.5 in 770
Thanks it seems that libpang dissapears after removing python 2.4. 2007/1/19, Malix [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I installed it Tuesday without problem, but I have had to remove python 2.4 before installing 2.5 Massimo 2007/1/19, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anybody tried maemo-python 2.5 in 770? I've tried to get the packages but Application Manager fails with them!! Thanks in advance, -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Discussion of a possible project - offline calendar project
Just an idea/plan: FIRST STAGE (alpha version) 1) Create a pytgtk app that asks the user for its google-calendar account details and stores them in the device. 2) When internet connection is available (or when user requests it), it should download ical files. Perhaps it would be better using some kind of sync mechanism to check updates 3) The app could add the ical files to EDS, or just show them as a list 4) There should be a nice calendar home applet to show this data. SECOND STAGE (beta edition) 1) Add sync capabilities with phone calendar using opensync or perhaps funambol. This way is ok for having google-phone-770 calendars synced. THIRD STAGE (release candidate) 1) Create methods to create new events in the calendar and a way to sync this changes with google and phone calendar. Ideas? Anyone already coding this? Thanks in advance, 2007/1/16, Mathias Uebelacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: By the way, a interface to mobile phones should be included - but thats will be a hard work an should be the second step Mathias 2007/1/16, Mathias Uebelacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, thanks to for the answers. I will wait until wednesday for further answers to my question. So at this time there where some projects with little or no growth or the possibility to create a new one in Python?. So maybe we should thought about possible features in the next step. But lets wait til wednesday an see whats coming next. br Mathias 2007/1/15, Teemu Nikkilä [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello! On Monday, 15. January 2007 12:15, Martin Grimme wrote: Hi, This sounds really interesting. I know that there are already applications like dates or GPE-calendar for the N770 but both don't fit my needs. Since my idea was to write some sort of PIM suite specially for the 770 in the near future, maybe we should join efforts. I have written software for the 770 in C (Ogg Vorbis Player) and Python (Obscura Photo Manager) and have to say that Python wins for big applications, IMHO. Development is much faster and the code usually more clear and stable than with C. So I'd vote for Python. Funny, I started to play around with a calendar project a while ago. I use KDE Contact on the desktop and choose to store my calendar appointments as emails on an IMAP server. These mail messages contain standard iCalendar files. To get started, I wrote a very simple Python app which is able to retrieve and list the appointments from the server. Then I unfortunately ran out of time for the project as I was supposed to figure out how to render the next occurrence of a recurring appointment. There seems to be a python module for that too though. Also I'd like to be able to see the calendar of my (series 60) phone and preferably be able to synchronize with it. So I'd really love to see a calendar application that can use (offline) IMAP as a backend and also interact with a phone's calendar. I'm also willing to contribute if there was a project in Python to implement this. -Teemu ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Discussion of a possible project - offline calendar project
Yes, if opensync support is easy to do, it could be used from alpha versions. Is there python support for opensync?? 2007/1/16, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 09:05 +0100, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Just an idea/plan: FIRST STAGE (alpha version) 1) Create a pytgtk app that asks the user for its google-calendar account details and stores them in the device. 2) When internet connection is available (or when user requests it), it should download ical files. Perhaps it would be better using some kind of sync mechanism to check updates 3) The app could add the ical files to EDS, or just show them as a list 4) There should be a nice calendar home applet to show this data. SECOND STAGE (beta edition) 1) Add sync capabilities with phone calendar using opensync or perhaps funambol. This way is ok for having google-phone-770 calendars synced. THIRD STAGE (release candidate) 1) Create methods to create new events in the calendar and a way to sync this changes with google and phone calendar. Leaving creation of events until RC is risky, as you'll probably end up rewriting the entire application to handle that. Note that Dates + OpenSync can do bidirectional syncing from Google Calendar to EDS on the desktop, so doing the same on the 770 would involve building opensync. The synchronisation methods in eds-dbus have not been tested, but if they are broken they should be trivial to fix. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Discussion of a possible project - offline calendar project
To myself, yes, it seems there is a python plugin for it... 2007/1/16, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, if opensync support is easy to do, it could be used from alpha versions. Is there python support for opensync?? 2007/1/16, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 09:05 +0100, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Just an idea/plan: FIRST STAGE (alpha version) 1) Create a pytgtk app that asks the user for its google-calendar account details and stores them in the device. 2) When internet connection is available (or when user requests it), it should download ical files. Perhaps it would be better using some kind of sync mechanism to check updates 3) The app could add the ical files to EDS, or just show them as a list 4) There should be a nice calendar home applet to show this data. SECOND STAGE (beta edition) 1) Add sync capabilities with phone calendar using opensync or perhaps funambol. This way is ok for having google-phone-770 calendars synced. THIRD STAGE (release candidate) 1) Create methods to create new events in the calendar and a way to sync this changes with google and phone calendar. Leaving creation of events until RC is risky, as you'll probably end up rewriting the entire application to handle that. Note that Dates + OpenSync can do bidirectional syncing from Google Calendar to EDS on the desktop, so doing the same on the 770 would involve building opensync. The synchronisation methods in eds-dbus have not been tested, but if they are broken they should be trivial to fix. Ross -- Ross Burton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.burtonini.com./ PGP Fingerprint: 1A21 F5B0 D8D0 CFE3 81D4 E25A 2D09 E447 D0B4 33DF ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Discussion of a possible project - offline calendar project
It would be nice having gdeskcal (or better gdesklets) support in 770... 2007/1/15, Martin Grimme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Mathias Uebelacker schrieb: Well here some thoughts from my project sheet: - which language should be used ( C, Python...) - how should the data stored (database, file ...) - should the application interacts with osso applications (Adressbook, email) - limitation of the screen size (N770) - look and feel like the original ?? - exchange with the google calendar (import/export) - language files (for each user his or her language) - and and and This sounds really interesting. I know that there are already applications like dates or GPE-calendar for the N770 but both don't fit my needs. Since my idea was to write some sort of PIM suite specially for the 770 in the near future, maybe we should join efforts. I have written software for the 770 in C (Ogg Vorbis Player) and Python (Obscura Photo Manager) and have to say that Python wins for big applications, IMHO. Development is much faster and the code usually more clear and stable than with C. So I'd vote for Python. One of my first opensource projects was the desktop calendar gDeskCal (http://www.pycage.de/#gdeskcal), so I have some experience with reading iCalendar files. If there some developer which will start these project with me let me know. If we can build a Team i will ask the garage-team to host that project so that we ca n start the work. Sure, why not? :) Regards, Martin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Re: [maemo-developers] step by step tutorial for developing home applets
Yes, I know them, but can I use them to create home applets.. I don't think soo. Thanks in advance, 2007/1/9, Mathias Uebelacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, there a two Python Docs on Maemo: Maemo 2.1 www.maemo.org/platform/docs/pymaemo/python_maemo_howto.html Maemo 3.0 www.maemo.org/platform/docs/python-bora/python_maemo_howto.html but i think that are both not for dev. home applets Mathias - Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Von: Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: maemo-developers@maemo.org Gesendet: Di., 9. Jan. 2007 13:09:25 CET Betreff: Re: [maemo-developers] step by step tutorial for developing home applets Is it for python? Is there a python howto for home applets 2007/1/9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, now we have this one: http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/tutorial_desktop_plugins_bora.html Not really step-by-step though. Is that not good enough? Let us know. Br, --jakub From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Mathias Uebelacker Sent: 09 January, 2007 12:17 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: [maemo-developers] step by step tutorial for developing home applets Hello to everybody, first of all, this is my second question to this topic. With the answers to my first question i could solve another prob. Does anybody knows a step by step tutorial for developing home applets? I looking for a tutorial like Teemus Python tutorials for ...Python http://teemuharju.net/pymaemo-tutorials/ Thanks again Mathias ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] nokia 870
But to FCC looks like a new Nokia IT: http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/28/fcc-confirms-new-nokia-internet-tablet-device/ Have fun, 2006/10/27, Armin M. Warda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 27 October 2006 18:04, Adi Roiban wrote: Has anyone any idea about what is that? http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/26/nokia-870-surfaces-in-the-wild/ To me this does not look like a potential successor to the 770. This looks more like an early 770 prototype or a design study dead end that did not make it for production. Armin. -- --- May the Source be with you! Linux. --- --- secure eMail: http://www.gnupg.de/ --- --- My Homepage http://armin-warda.de/ --- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html
At least, the screenshots look promising ;-) Thank you very much, 2006/5/16, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Koen Kooi wrote: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html Hi, In case anyone missed it: http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html The biggest error in the statement: It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770. It will be :) This is the 2006 IT SW Edition launch (which means we are close to public release). Currently we do not yet have the exact final public release date. We also intend to coincide the release of Maemo 2.0 release candidate with the public release. Trust me team is working real hard :) Cheers Devesh nokia.com only has IT2005 downloads :( regards, Koen ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html
I hope they release the SDk first, and a pre-IT2006 image to test the recompiled apps... 2006/5/16, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Devesh Kothari schreef: ext Koen Kooi wrote: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html Hi, In case anyone missed it: http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html The biggest error in the statement: It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770. It will be :) This is the 2006 IT SW Edition launch (which means we are close to public release). Currently we do not yet have the exact final public release date. We also intend to coincide the release of Maemo 2.0 release candidate with the public release. Trust me team is working real hard :) So we won't get the SDK before the release, but at the same time? Given the huge incompatibilities (app-installer, EABI) I would have thought nokia would release the sdk a bit earlier to give the app developers a chance to get their software out on time. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEaYpMMkyGM64RGpERAu6QAJ0eh4pQDNp0OW5cjIy5OibaU3sjewCgn21w 5RxTdC9Ut8PQn2u0I1Oi688= =7/ec -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Gecko based browser?
Yes, you have Manaos: http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/01/just-little-taste-of-manaos-update.html http://sourceforge.net/projects/manaos-gecko/ 2006/3/29, Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, is there a gecko based browser for Maemo? was just looking for one... well wouldn't mind making one if it does not exist ;) Prasad ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GPE PIM applications for Maemo progress
Cool update!! Perhaps some developers could join bedoi effort to have a maemo-desktop-plugin to show the appointments and todo summary, or just port gpe-summary as a maemo-desktop-plugin, instead of the clock that shows maemo. I will update Spanish localization soon. Thanks and best regards, 2006/1/11, Florian Boor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, we just updated binary packages and sources for the Maemo port of the GPE PIM applications. Binary packages and sources are available from http://oss.kernelconcepts.de. All sources can be found in GPE CVS at handhelds.org too. If you are interested what is going on check out http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/timeline. The next steps will be support for alarms and syncing... Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: 0271-771091-14 and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: 0271-771091-19 [Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904][EMAIL PROTECTED] 6C 44 30 4C 43 20 6B 61 16 07 0F AA E6 97 70 A8 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: GPE-Calendar for maemo
Yes, whole day events are Reminders 2005/12/2, Antti P Miettinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Florian Boor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i just released GPE-Calendar 0.66 for Maemo. Is the Update feeds entry in the screenshot a whole day event? I.e. is there now support for whole day events in GPE-calendar? -- http://www.iki.fi/~ananaza/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] TAbiWord
Great news! Ink support in Gtk apps! Thanks, PS: At last we'll have revenge 2005/11/10, Tomas Frydrych [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, I have wanted to have ink support in AbiWord for a while and reviewed the TAbiWord code when it first appeared; at that time the TAbiWord code was Win32 specific (fair enough) but unfortunately was done in a manner that broke the cross-platform framework of AbiWord. The AbiWord team did not have the resources to clean it up, and the orginal developer did not either AFAIK (I have not looked at the code for a couple of years now). With the arrival of the n770, ink support has moved high up on my TODO list and I am in planing stages of a new project to run alongside AbiWord with a provisional name libStylus, the aim of which is to provide generic ink support that would allow any gtk-based application to add such functionality with minimum code; I was planing to make an announcement on the maemo-dev list next week :) . If any of you are interested, please get in touch with me. Tomas P.S. AbiWord, of course, is available for the n770, see the application page on maemo.org. Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Hello, Any Abiword developer has rescued/asked for this[1] code? An extension of AbiWord (version 2.04 code base) that supports digital markup and annotation on the Tablet PC. [1] http://www.cs.umd.edu/~meesh/kmconroy/ -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] The application Catalog page
Hi, Yes, it would be nice. And to create categories in 'installer ready apps' like PIM, internet, office, games, etc. There should be a template for each app description, something like gnomefiles.org And some info about app updates, because 'recent changes' is not always a help. Thanks and best regards, 2005/11/10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, As everyone has propably noticed, the activity around the maemo.org mailing lists and the Wiki have been increasing a lot latetely and hopefully the growth will continue.:) The application Catalog http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog is steadily growing with new applictions ready, ports on the way and the wanted applications list getting even longer. Soon or even allready that page is bound to get really messy and hard to browse around for quick information, and especially it might be a problem for new users wandering around to the site. With this motivation, mayby we should think about rearranging the page? We were thinking with Ferenc that we could split the page into one main page with links to the main categories. The main page would have basic information on each category(what you can do with the applications under there and etc...) and the links to the pages. The categories could be the ones on the wiki page now: - Application installer ready - Port done - In progress - Wanted What do you guys think? Is it better to keep the catalog like it is now, or rearrange it? Any proposals what kind of arrangement would be the best for everyone? Br, Erkko on behalf of team maemo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] TAbiWord
Hello, Any Abiword developer has rescued/asked for this[1] code? An extension of AbiWord (version 2.04 code base) that supports digital markup and annotation on the Tablet PC. [1] http://www.cs.umd.edu/~meesh/kmconroy/ -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] The future of the Application installer
Hello, I am not sure if all the power of dpkg+apt would fit well in an embedded system like the Nokia 770. What about using the power of the ipkg software used in Familiar distro[1] that is even compatible with .deb packages? There is even a Gtk GUI for it developped by GPE people [2] ;) Have fun, [1] http://familiar.handhelds.org/ [2] http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/details.phtml?package=gpe-packageofficial=format= 2005/11/7, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, as you all know, the current Application installer sucks more than Cygnus X-1 [1], and this needs to change. The current plan is to use the full power of dpkg+apt and put a nice GUI on top of it. The GUI design is pretty mature already and will be nice and friendly but still powerful. It will very likely be implemented by canibalizing synaptic or some other existing graphical package manager. So, do you have any comments, feature requests, etc that go beyond would you have on Debian already? Something that you have on Debian but a bsolutely don't want to lose? Please let me know! [1] http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/research/cygx1.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] The future of the Application installer
2005/11/7, Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ext Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It don't regard the 770 as an embedded system. Once you talk about installing arbitrary software on a system, it is no longer embedded, regardless of how limited its resources are. It is also quite resourceful actually. I think there is a lot to be said about using the 'real thing' when you can. I think we can use dpkg+apt resourcewise, so we should. Ok, ok.. I was talking about storage size. Yes, I know about it and at one time, I actually had a ipkg-based maemo repository (as a quick and dirty hack, nothing polished), so I know it works. But I didn't actually see any big advantage... I am not sure, but isn't ipkg smaller than dpkg-apt, doing same things (more or less)? Thanks and best regards, -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Note taking application
Do you know Gournal[1] or Jarnal[2] ??? They are really cool apps, that would be a nice start for any 'notes' program. [1] http://www.adebenham.com/gournal/ [2] http://www.dklevine.com/general/software/tc1000/jarnal.htm 2005/10/19, Ole Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Step 2: Feeding the strokes through handwriting recognition engine. I just wrote a handwriting recognition engine for GPE desktops. It's called rosetta and you can find it on: http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ Perhaps this is a good starting point as it is able to recognise whole words and can be trained to the writers own script. If I find some spare time I'd also like to port it to meamo to have a new input method. I'd also like to improve the recognition itself. If someone is interested in this project any help is always appreciated. Best regards, Ole Reinhardt -- _ | | | Embedded-IT Hard- und Softwarelösungen | | | | Ole ReinhardtTel. / Fax:+49 (0)271 7420433 | | Luisenstraße 29 Mobil: +49 (0)177 7420433 | | 57076 Siegen eMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Germany Web: http://www.embedded-it.de | |_| ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How do you take a screen capture on a 770?
Perhaps something like this could work: http://www.handhelds.org/scap 2005/10/5, Roger Sperberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How can you take a capture of the screen on a 770? (Please, every step.) Thanks, Roger -- firstinitial lastname at gmail.com Electronicity (http://electronicity.org ) Teleread (e-books: http://teleread.org/blog/) Electric Forest (digital libraries: http://altheim.com/ef/) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo on hx4700 ipaq
Hello, I think that Maemo platform could run in hx4700 if all its hardware would be supported by linux. There is work in progress on it now, but, not 100% yet. Best regards, 2005/10/2, Bernard Mentink [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone? - Hi All, New to this list so not sure if this question is already asked. Will support for resolutions other than 800x480 be supported at any time soon so that Maemo can be run on the likes of the hx4700 (640x480)?? Is there changes to the UI that could be done at present to allow that resolution? Thanks, Bernard ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth keyboards
Great news! 2005/9/27, Tomas Junnonen (Nokia-M/Helsinki) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There has been some speculation in the past about whether you can connect a Bluetooth keyboard to the 770. Officially this is not supported. However, in practice the 770 now accepts keyboard input if you manage to connect one. As the 770 ships with no user interface for associating a BT keyboard with the device, you will need to install a small plugin first, available here: http://770.fs-security.com/keyboards.html The plugin source can also be viewed as an example of how to put your own icons in the status bar of the Maemo desktop, another unsupported feature likely to interest some of you. Regards, Tomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] TomTom on Maemo/Nokia 770?
That would be nice! I think you should send a CC of this email to TomTom. Best regards, 2005/9/27, Philip Van Hoof [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, At our company (X-Tend) we'd be very interested in having the option to let TomTom run on the Nokia 770. Are there plans (at TomTom) to sell/package their software in such a way that it's installable and usable on the Nokia 770? -- Philip Van Hoof, software developer at x-tend home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org work: vanhoof at x-tend dot be http://www.pvanhoof.be - http://www.x-tend.be ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to view Microsoft word/ppt in maemo ?
Like these: http://visioo-writer.tuxfamily.org/ http://imposter.sourceforge.net/ Best regards, 2005/9/16, Karoliina Salminen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 13:36 +0800, ext Falls Huang wrote: Hello! Can I view the ms office word/ppt/excel file in maemo ? Can I view the openoffice.org file in maemo ? Sure if someone ports OpenOffice.org or something similar for Maemo which may be challenging, but not necessarily impossible provided that someone does it. Currently however, as far as my understanding, the answer is no. The OpenOffice.org for example is a quite demanding application on the desktop and may be quite hard to make it fit into a resource limited device (very limited memory if compared to desktop (64 MB RAM, and with Linux, X, AF Desktop etc. loaded, not very much free RAM), very limited flash, if compared to desktop Linux box hard drive etc). If there would be a tiny GTK+ based OpenOffice.org viewer somewhere out there in the open source community (I don't know if there is), that would be the best starting point and a lot more realistic to port so that it will propably work on the 770 device. Optimizing the memory footprint down would be crucial to success. Best Regards, Karoliina http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to view Microsoft word/ppt in maemo ?
2005/9/16, Matthias Steinbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It would be a nice idea to start a viewer project within OOo to be used on several embedded devices. Would be also nice for mobiles and pdas. It seems that Visioo[1] could be a good start, but it depends on pygtk and some linux devices don't come with it. But it could be a good candidate for 'openoffice.org-maemo-viewer'. And Visioo only supports .sxv files, but maybe more formats could be added with some community help. Best regards, [1] http://visioo-writer.tuxfamily.org/ -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Portable .NET on maemo
Yes, I've seen that DotGNU is in OpenEmbedded. And there are already people working in ARM port of Mono too. 2005/9/13, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I would like to see DotGNU portable .NET on Memo. There is already ARM port of portbale .NET available. I am sure the DotGNU community will be happy to work with Maemo community to have a FOSS alternative to J2ME. Regards Praveen A -- GNU is the system, and Linux is the kernel. A proud GNU user http://www.gnu.org Me scribbles at http://www.pravi.co.nr ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] First email to the list.
You are welcome my friend! ;) 2005/9/6, Nacho Barrientos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'm now testing and learning about scratchbox and Maemo devel rootstrap, soon i'll start porting or writing some applications. I hope be useful. Regards, -- Nacho Barrientos Arias | Web:http://criptonita.com/~nacho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| GPG:0xE103FC4D [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Linux registered user: #273993 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.asturlinux.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] mathematics software
Giac/XCAS [1] but it should need a Gtk port ;) And maybe a Saturn[2] port to emulate hp48 and hp49 calcs would be great too! [1] http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~parisse/giac.html [2] http://www.hpcalc.org/details.php?id=4382 2005/7/18, Steffen Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, My holidays were great ^^… Last week our Math teacher used a graphical calculator for presenting some graphs to us. I will transport an existing application on maemo. Can someone give me a tip which software would be the best for this project? The software has to calculate terms, algebra, equations and some geographical things. On winxp i use ti derive 6. Does in linux exsist good software like that or better? This willbemy first 770 software project J…. thx ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Qt + KDE port
2005/7/6, Gustavo Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You understood me wrong, I liked the Maemo GUI, but I want some kde apps, possible kontact (maybe as separated apps, like kmail), koffice and khtml. [...] Talking about Apps... I know 770 is a device for browsing... but some productivity wouldn't hurt... anything planned? Office? PIM? Right! But, instead of reinventing the wheel, let's take what we have: a Gtk based device. Have we already Gtk based PIM apps for embedded devices like this? Answer: Yes, there are GPE [1] apps, and some are already ported to Maemo platform. So, we need more hacking in those apps to integrate and sync them with 'traditional' desktop world. And sure, this would save some memory space (no need for extra libs like Qt, i.e.). Best regards, [1] http://gpe.handhelds.org -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] maemowiki
So let's mix all in a wiki under Maemo site! 2005/7/6, Steffen Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Why we need two wikis? http://wiki770.org and the wiki from official maemo page? I think one wiki is ok. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ferenc Szekely Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2005 15:14 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-developers@maemo.org Betreff: [maemo-developers] maemowiki Hello, After a long long time we finally have wiki @ maemo.org. Check out the main page: http://maemo.org and find the new tab which will lead you to maemowiki. Have fun! ferenc ps: We also have some updates on the howto and news pages. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Jarnal clone for maemo devices
Hello, Does anybody know Jarnal[1]? It is a java app trying to clone M$ Journal app used in TabletPC devices. Give it a try, it has some nice features like using PDF files as background, handwriten recognizer, etc. Is there any plan to use Java in N770? Could be something similar (Gournal[2]) be ported? Ideas? I think that these apps would be great add ons for note taking and similar tasks.. Thanks and best regards, [1] http://www.dklevine.com/general/software/tc1000/jarnal.htm [2] http://www.adebenham.com/gournal/ -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Maemo C++
I have talked with Miguel about mono arm port, and Novell has bought some arm desktop pcs for it... On 6/29/05, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Yes, if someone ports mono jit compiler to arm... AFAIK, dotGnu works in arm-linux devices.. Handhelds.org managed to get a slot in the google SoC thing for someone to work on getting pnet to work better on PDAs. The novell people don't seem to care about ARM, but the future is bright :) regards, Koen On 6/29/05, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would really like to program in Java. It's listed in the roadmap. Anyone working on it at the moment? What about .net apps with Mono? I believe you can run Java on mono too. Stuart. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCwrbXMkyGM64RGpERArSzAJ4veAaeYRjBRR1TtEqcgkubgNaUaQCdFSs6 y3VjgKv8LDxcJvf9c9k4j8g= =fvlF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GUI builder
Extending gazpacho? Nice.. When a release is expected? Best regards, 2005/6/28, Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:04 +0100, ext Damon Chaplin wrote: Hi, I noticed that a GUI builder tool is slated for future releases. Are you extending glade-2 or glade-3 or starting from scratch? We're extending gazpacho, sorry. glade-2 couldn't be extended nicely (when evaluation started, we weren't certain whether all widgets will be open) and development had pretty much shifted to glade-3 anyway, which wasn't ready. Gazpacho seems to have much more momentum, probably because it's implemented in higher level language. Currently the widgets are not exactly (lib)glade-friendly, but we're working on it. -- Tommi Komulainen[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] GUI builder
Of course, device release with some speed up are priorities! I'll start playing with Gazpacho for some development. Best regards, 2005/6/28, Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 11:19 +0200, ext Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: Extending gazpacho? Nice.. When a release is expected? When it's ready, of course ;) Currently getting the device shipped is top priority and the remaining effort is spread pretty thin across everything. I don't really have any estimates. -- Tommi Komulainen[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Custom input keyboards
Hello, I've heard that virtual keyboard and handwritten recognizer is closed source in N770, right? I would like to know if there would be any chance to create custom keyboards. Is there any plan to use xkbd[1] or newest matchbox-keyboard and matchbox-stroke[2]? (I'd love that). [1] http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xkbd/ [2] http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/ -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] FLTK
2005/6/23, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wonder why one would want to bolt a toolkit on top of another one? Does FLTK have some overly fantastic widgets that Gtk is missing? I think that main advantage of FLTK is the 'L? in its name: Light. The fltklib could be 1 to 2 MB I think, so it has been used in some embedded projects before as GUI tool kit, like Pixil [1] As you can see in the fltk shots[2] there is a GUI designer, called Fluid, and a lot of widgets. It is designed for C++ programming. Do we really need another GUI environment in such device? That's the question. My first answer would be we don't need it, but I think that programmers could compile it easily for arm (it is already available) and use it and distribute it with their apps. That's freedom. Best regards, [1] http://www.pixil.org/screenshots.php [2] http://www.fltk.org/shots.php -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Live-CD wishlist...
2005/6/22, Mattias Schlenker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello everybody, please take a look at this screenshot: http://devcorner.schlenker-webdesign.de/download/scratchbox-live.png Col!! It is the first iteration of our Maemo-Scratchbox-Live-CD. The CD is based on Benix which is based on Kanotix which is based on Knoppix which is based on Debian. Since Benix just uses 200MB, our Live-CD currently is about 600MB, including Scratchbox for x86 and ARM. So I will be able to compile my apps using this LiveCD, won't I? This leaves about 100MB to be filled with additional maemo-apps as well as with tools for supporting the development (maybe an editor that is not vi would make sense...). Anjuta? Garnacho/Glade + Anjuta? Thank you very much and best regards, -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Printbackend planned for Maemo?
It would be nice that maemo based devices could print using Buletooth, i.e. I am thinking about some scenarios for that... 2005/6/19, Björn Teipel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, is there any printbackend like Gnome-Print included or planned for Maemo platform ? Bye, Björn ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Optimized software
Hello, I've read a review about Nokia 770[1] saying that the device is something slow. Sure you have all in mind that optimized software is important, and I hope that release unit won't have speed issues. Some reactions to this review[2] comment about latency experience solutions: * Wherever possible, use multi-threading to push latency into the background. * Latency can often be hidden from users through multi-tasking techniques, letting them continue with their work while transmission and computation take place in the background. * Reduce the user's experience of latency. * Acknowledge all button clicks by visual or aural feedback within 50 milliseconds. * Display an hourglass for any action that will take from 1/2 to 2 seconds. * Animate the hourglass so they know the system hasn't died. * Display a message indicating the potential length of the wait for any action that will take longer than 2 seconds. * Communicate the actual length through an animated progress indicator. * Offer engaging text messages to users informed and entertained while they are waiting for long processes, such as server saves, to be completed. * Make the client system beep and give a large visual indication upon return from lengthy (10 seconds) processes, so that users know when to return to using the system. * Trap multiple clicks of the same button or object. Because the Internet is slow, people tend to press the same button repeatedly, causing things to be even slower. Best regards, [1] http://www.mobilepipeline.com/164302869 [2] http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000567046862/ -- J. Manrique Lpez de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] maemo application porting and effort duplication
What about a mediawiki website with info about ported apps or apps that might be ported, or someone would like them ported???... Best regards, 2005/6/14, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Devesh Kothari wrote: I agree we need some coordination about application porting and effort duplication? we can create a new mailing list where people can announce their efforts and others can search the archive to see if someone is already working on it, or the other option is to open up a bug against a dummy package in bugzilla. Any ideas/opinions ??? A page listing ported and porting in progress apps would solve part of this problem. A example of how it could look like: http://killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=350 regards, Koen Br, Devesh Is there any list of applications mameo guys wants port on priority? I was able to cross-compile mplayer and running on my board with 3gpp support. List will help us not to duplicate the work in porting. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCrsqTMkyGM64RGpERAoMCAJ44w/obS8qS7D3P7F0EqHW657CbpwCgg3mQ +oGiFeqqWd5pudqcADMOoQU= =PhHQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo Live-CD?
Cool!!! 2005/6/9, Mattias Schlenker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Daniel Monteiro wrote: it could be also nice to include the toolchain,in order to develop with no sweat =-) OK, every reply so far asks for a live CD aimed to developers, not something small that would also fit on a credit card sized CD or a USB stick. I'll build a quick and dirty version based on Kanotix Lite during the next days. Regards, Mattias -- Mattias Schlenker / Tel 0851 9441369 oder 0160 7352988 Freyunger Str. 42 / http://ilw.schlenker-webdesign.de/ 94034 Passau / http://mattlog.schlenker-webdesign.de/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] How to get a 770?
Nokia webshop when available? Or perhaps joining the developers device program, when units become available.. 2005/6/4, Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've checked the archives (not June's yet) and I'd like to know how I can get a 770 to work with? I need to evaluate it to replace the 3Com Audrey as an HA interface. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) http://linuxha.blogspot.com/My HA Blog ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
