Re: osso_initialize: how to make it work?

2010-06-07 Thread maemo . mexon
OK, it's the run-standalone.sh thing.  I remember now, that was a 
constant irritation when I was trying to fix bugs in Modest.  I never 
fully understood it.  Is that thing documented anywhere, is there any 
in-depth discussion of why it's necessary and how to use it?  It really 
makes every step in the development process very painful.


By the way, osso_initialize seems to work just fine without either 
gtk_init or hildon_init.  But no doubt failing to initialise one of 
those will cause various kinds of hell later on.  Is this dependency 
documented anywhere?


On 07/06/10 21:05, Faheem Pervez - tripp...@gmail.com wrote:

OSSO == Open Source Software Operations (which is funny and now
defunct, but I won't go into it here).

If you're running on the device, make sure you're running as user and
not root (or at least using run-standalone.sh).

If you're running in Scratchbox, make sure to "af-sb-init.sh start"
and run the program using run-standalone.sh

Oh, note that some aspects of libosso will require a GLib mainloop,
whilst others require GTK+ to be initialized, as in Mr. Ivanov's reply
(osso_cp_plugin_execute () springs to mind).
On 6/7/10, maemo.me...@spamgourmet.com  wrote:

I've been scouring the documentation on maemo.org and getting pretty
frustrated.  Almost none of it is up to date, and almost none of it is
relevant to a beginning developer.  So:

Here is my code:

#include
#include

int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
  osso_context_t* osso;

  osso = osso_initialize("name.exon.mapcacher", "20100529", TRUE,  NULL);
  if (!osso)
  {
  printf("Failed to initialise osso\n");
  return 1;
  }

  return 0;
}

Here is the output:

Failed to initialise osso

Why?

Also, what does "osso" mean?  Years of using Maemo, I've never figured
that out.

Is there any genuine getting started tutorial showing how to write a
program that actually works in Maemo?  Is there a hello world
application that's less than a hundred lines, with an explanation of
what all those lines are for?

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osso_initialize: how to make it work?

2010-06-07 Thread maemo . mexon
I've been scouring the documentation on maemo.org and getting pretty 
frustrated.  Almost none of it is up to date, and almost none of it is 
relevant to a beginning developer.  So:


Here is my code:

#include 
#include 

int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
osso_context_t* osso;

osso = osso_initialize("name.exon.mapcacher", "20100529", TRUE,  NULL);
if (!osso)
{
printf("Failed to initialise osso\n");
return 1;
}

return 0;
}

Here is the output:

Failed to initialise osso

Why?

Also, what does "osso" mean?  Years of using Maemo, I've never figured 
that out.


Is there any genuine getting started tutorial showing how to write a 
program that actually works in Maemo?  Is there a hello world 
application that's less than a hundred lines, with an explanation of 
what all those lines are for?


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Re: Is the N900 running X-Windows?! (was: Maemo 5 and hw accelerated X.Org?)

2010-02-10 Thread maemo-developers
From 白い熊 on Thursday, 11 February, 2010:
>Ove Kaaven  writes:
>>> I the N900 running true X-Windows, meaning that it was possible to ssh
>>> -XC in some Linux box and start X-applications without any extensions or
>> Try it. It's fun.
>I've tried both ssh -XC n900 and ssh -YC n900 and then running leafpad
>for instance, but it gets run on the N900, is not exported to the PC.
>I've set:
>ForwardX11 yes
>ForwardX11Trusted yes
>in /etc/ssh/ssh_config on the N900 but it's not exported.
>What am I doing wrong?

You may need to export DISPLAY and set the xauth tokens (command: xauth add 
)

IIRC, displays start at 10, so it'd be
$ export DISPLAY=:10.0
$ xauth list 

The second command lists the known xauth cookies; verify that :10.0 is
  in there.

I'm not certain how to find the server's xauth keys if they aren't already
  set. It *should* be automagically set up on the remote side.

-Joseph


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Testing apps

2010-02-06 Thread maemo

Ive built a command-line app. I can bring up the Maemo UI and run the tool 
from Terminal just fine (from inside its source folder), however related 
utilities that come with the tool dont work - Im assuming I need to do a 
make install to fully test it.

I could install it but then Im 'polluting' my dev environment with 
something that may not work and may be hard to remove all traces of 
correctly. What's a good strategy to test then? Should I make a package 
and use the package manager to install, test and uninstall? How do 
developers test apps like this?



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Re: Terminal app in scratchbox?

2010-02-06 Thread maemo
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

> On 02/06/2010 05:31 PM, ma...@bitblit.net wrote:
> > I get an error:
> >
> >
> fakeroot apt-get install ...
> 


Ah yes, of course :-)


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Re: Terminal app in scratchbox?

2010-02-06 Thread maemo
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Faheem Pervez wrote:

> apt-get install osso-xterm

I get an error:

Setting up libvte-common (0.16.14-0mh9.m5) ...
Setting up libvte4 (0.16.14-0mh9.m5) ...

Setting up osso-xterm (0.14.mh30+0m5) ...
You must be root to launch this program.
dpkg: error processing osso-xterm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 osso-xterm
E: Sub-process /scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/bin/dpkg returned an error 
code (1)


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Terminal app in scratchbox?

2010-02-06 Thread maemo

Ive built a command-line tool in my X86 scratchbox and wanted to test it 
in the emulator, but I see there is no Terminal app in the emulator. Did I 
forget to install it or is it not available? (If not available, how do you 
test console apps?).


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Re: Query (Maemo) packages

2010-02-05 Thread maemo
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, [ISO-8859-1] Timo H�rk�nen wrote:

> Don't know about that but N900 is listed available for remote access
> 
> http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/RDA_device_list

Yes, I can confirm that remote access to N900 devices works. Thanks very 
much.



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Re: Query (Maemo) packages

2010-02-05 Thread maemo
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Daniil Ivanov wrote:

>   Definitely no. Set of installed packages differ on the real device and
>   inside a scratchbox.

Is there a list online somewhere?

My problem is I dont have a real device to play with yet.




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Query (Maemo) packages

2010-02-04 Thread maemo

Is running dpkg inside scratchbox the best way to get a list of all the 
packages that are installed on a standard device?

I want to check to see what packages are part of a standard device.



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Re: Older targets in Mammo 5 SDK?

2010-02-04 Thread maemo
On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, jarmo.ti...@nokia.com wrote:

> Just couple of more details :). You can install Diablo rootstraps 
> (Diablo SDK) into same Scratchbox installation you use with Fremantle 
> SDK.

That's exactly what I want to do but since Im unfamiliar with the 
installer scripts, I dont know what exactly needs to be done to add the 
targets.

Also, Im assuming once those targets are added, I can login to scratchbox, 
switch to a Diablo target and use fakeroot as normal?




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Re: Older targets in Mammo 5 SDK?

2010-02-03 Thread maemo
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Marius Gedminas wrote:

> Check out this post about setting up multiple targets in your scratchbox:
> http://inz.fi/blog/2007/10/22/multi-target-development-for-maemo/
> 
> I currently have targets for mistral, bora, chinook, diablo and
> fremantle.

I read the blog post but its not clear to me. I used the regular installer 
scripts to have FREMANTLE. I just want to add the DIABLO targets and 
binaries.



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Older targets in Mammo 5 SDK?

2010-02-02 Thread maemo

Is it possible to have older targets inside the Maemo 5 SDK? For example, 
it would be useful to have DIABLO_X86 and DIABLO_ARMEL targets available.


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Vote for N900

2010-02-02 Thread maemo


http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/vote-for-the-2009-engadget-awards


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Re: Maintenance of ported apps

2010-02-01 Thread maemo
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Ville M. Vainio wrote:

> I don't think so. You could check for some headers or something, but
> that wouldn't be as reliable as explicitly requesting a maemo build.
> 
> If you only special case --with-platform=maemo, you can safely send
> your changes upstream - and just maintain maemo packaging separately.

Is --with-platform=maemo something you're using just for your packages or 
is it something that has been arrived at through consensus with other 
Maemo developers?


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Re: Maintenance of ported apps

2010-02-01 Thread maemo
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Jeremiah Foster wrote:

> One reads the changelog and determines if the changes are appropriate 
> for the maemo platform, taking the appropriate action if they are.

Seems sensible to me.

> If you have made local changes then yes. Otherwise you are sort of forking.

Well to send changes upstream we need some preprocessing directives to 
hide the Maemo specific stuff from other platforms, otherwise I agree we 
are forking (which Id rather not do).



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Re: Maintenance of ported apps

2010-02-01 Thread maemo
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Ville M. Vainio wrote:

> You can use a build time option for that, e.g. check out configure.ac
> in modest (apt-get source modest). It just expects
> --with-platform=maemo for ./configure invocation.

Is there a define that is automatically defined in Maemo that I can just 
use? That way, its transparent if we send changes upstream.



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Maintenance of ported apps

2010-01-31 Thread maemo

Im very interested in porting apps to Maemo but I have concerns about the 
long-term maintenance of the apps. Porting a GTK app to Maemo requires 
some significant chznges, so what happens when a newer version of the GTK 
app appears? Will in need to be ported 'again'? Should changes for Maemo 
be merged back upstream? If so, Im assuming there are compiler flags that 
can be used for preprocessing code for Maemo and non-Maemo platforms?

How is this managed?



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Porting guicde for Maemo 5?

2010-01-28 Thread maemo

Is there a porting guide for Maemo 5 yet?

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Re: connect through ssh or telnet to the Virtual Machine with Maemo SDK

2010-01-23 Thread maemo
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010, ac...@dsic.upv.es wrote:

> I just installed the  Machine with Maemo SDK and would like to be  
> connect with my nomal linux istalation. Can someone tell me how can I  
> connect through ssh or telnet to the Virtual Machine with Maemo SDK.

I imagine you could probably install openssh server in the VM and connect 
to the IP?



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Re: DNS tools

2009-12-24 Thread maemo
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, ext-gavin.pea...@nokia.com wrote:

> Out of interest, is anyone working on porting over any of the Debian DNS
> tools such as DIG? Or has anyone got them running? Seen a few 
> discussions, but no succesful outcomes as of yet.
>  
> Any thoughts?

Would rather have the less bloated djbdns utils :-)



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Maemo SDK 2.2 Tutorial

2009-12-06 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi people:

I'd like to know the author of this tutorial:
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2_2_Tutorial/#settingup

Because I've got some questions about the Setting Up process, which are
really difficult to answer by people who haven't been so much exposed to
Maemo 2.2... (very old times)

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Help with SDK 2.2

2009-12-05 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi people:

Is there anybody who has an up-to-date guide to install Maemo SDK 2.2 (for
770)... ?

Maybe he's right now in Barcelona...? :-)

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New tablet imminent?

2009-06-15 Thread maemo

Big price drops - inventory clearance in progress?
http://www.buy.com/prod/Nokia-N810-Internet-Tablet-Full-Pull-out-QWERTY-Keyboard/q/loc/101/206228943.html
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N810-Portable-Internet-Tablet/dp/B000Y4AH3C


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Re: maemo UI

2009-06-01 Thread maemo
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Hubert Figuiere wrote:

> The real problem is that PDF is not a format for electronic books. 
> Because it hardcodes paper size and layout, it is not independant of the 
> media. PDF is a format for digital rendering of printouts.

True enough, but thats also ignoring reality - there is already a ton of 
content in PDF format and it will be around for a long time. Most ebook 
readers (Kindle DX) will have PDF support at some point.

Personally, I think the PDF readers on Maemo are pretty good - I just wish 
they would remember page and zoom level per document, but apart from 
that the reading experience is pretty good for me.


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OSiM

2009-03-11 Thread maemo

Are Nokia developers planning to be at OSiM in San Francisco this week?



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Re: Screen orientation

2009-01-27 Thread maemo
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Deepak  Kr. Sharma, Noida wrote:

> How do I find out from my application if the current screen orientation
> is landscape or portrait?

AFAIK, no Maemo device has sensors for that.


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RE: SQLite3

2009-01-17 Thread maemo
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:

> If 3.4.1 is part of the Maemo distribution, I’m unaware of it.  I’ve 
> downloaded/installed the debs @ 
> repository.maemo.org/pool/Diablo/free/s/sqlite3/ and sqlite3 does not run.  
> Nor can you run sqlite3 and have it run.  This does work and so far I 
> haven’t had any problems.

Funny- this same conversation comes up every few months. The sqlite 
package in maemo does NOT have the command-line tools in it. I believe 
there's a bug open for that. I dont know if Diablo has it either - maybe 
someone else can correct me if Im wrong.


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Re: N810 WE

2009-01-15 Thread maemo
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Erik Hovland wrote:

> There was a slide from the last maemo meetup that I saw as a
> video. It had the very few details of the next platform. But it
> mentioned about the next OMAP processor.

Well even that is good to know. I believe Palm's Pre also uses OMAP3?


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Re: N810 WE

2009-01-15 Thread maemo
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Erik Hovland wrote:

> Nokia
> has already said they are working on the next gen tablet.

Any details? A url?


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N810 WE

2009-01-15 Thread maemo

Suprised to see nothing on this list about the EOL of the N810 WE model - 
what's the story behind that? Will there by a switch to LTE? Or is there 
another WiMax model in the works?



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Re: xterm cant escape so my cursor is homeless (echo -e "\033[H")

2009-01-01 Thread maemo
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008, tz wrote:

> I just tried to do some basic cursor movement using ansi sequences,
> but they don't work in the standard xterm.  I know vim and other
> things work but they may be using the panels or some other library.
> Is this just not implemented, or does it use something completely non
> ANSI/VTxx?

You should probably be using ncurses or s-lang to do this kind of stuff.



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Re: maemo-developers Digest, Vol 42, Issue 6

2008-10-14 Thread maemo developer
Can curl cache received image? How about libsoup? How to install libsoup on
my 770? (I could not find libsoup in my build, libcurl is there.) thanks.

>
>
> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:19:30 +0200
> From: Thomas Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: download and display image, please help.
> To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:50:52 +0200
> "koos vriezen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/10/2 maemo developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I am new to maemo/gtk/gnome etc. I try to build an application that
> > > can run on nokia 770. One simple thing this application needs to do
> > > is to download graphic from internet and display the graphic on the
> > > device. I got the image by using curl library, now how to display
> > > the image? Tried to save the image to a file than display it using
> > > set_image_from_file, it worked but very slow. how to display the
> > > graphic from image stream in memory directly? gtkhtml can't help
> > > right? It doesn't seem able to display image. Thanks.
> >
> > For a start, you can use GdkPixbufLoader to write the data from your
> > network stream directly.
>
> In addition, you might decide to use libsoup instead of libcurl, as the
> former is GLib-based and might be easier to integrate in your
> GTK-based app (i.e. GObject signals to connect to when parts have
> finished downloading).
>
>
> Thomas
>
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Re: download and display image, please help.

2008-10-06 Thread maemo developer
Many thanks. I have another newby question. I try to generate .deb for my
application to run on 770. Reading lengthy document like "debian new
maintainers' guide" really gives me headache. Also I need to manully write
Makefile.am autogen.sh configurat.ac? is there easy way to create .deb file?
Or is there a simpler tutorial somewhere? thanks.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM, koos vriezen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2008/10/2 maemo developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  > I am new to maemo/gtk/gnome etc. I try to build an application that can
> run
> > on nokia 770. One simple thing this application needs to do is to
> download
> > graphic from internet and display the graphic on the device. I got the
> image
> > by using curl library, now how to display the image? Tried to save the
> image
> > to a file than display it using set_image_from_file, it worked but very
> > slow. how to display the graphic from image stream in
> > memory directly? gtkhtml can't help right? It doesn't seem able to
> display
> > image. Thanks.
>
> For a start, you can use GdkPixbufLoader to write the data from your
> network stream directly.
>
> Koos
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download and display image, please help.

2008-10-02 Thread maemo developer
I am new to maemo/gtk/gnome etc. I try to build an application that can run
on nokia 770. One simple thing this application needs to do is to download
graphic from internet and display the graphic on the device. I got the image
by using curl library, now how to display the image? Tried to save the image
to a file than display it using set_image_from_file, it worked but very
slow. how to display the graphic from image stream in
memory directly? gtkhtml can't help right? It doesn't seem able to display
image. Thanks.
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Re: Moderator speak up - is maemo multitouch thread ok or not

2008-09-05 Thread maemo
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote:

> I am sure I have the best understanding of the global market trends in 
> multitouch, gesture recognition, 3D human interfaces and other emerging
> technologies

There's the problem right there...



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Re: Moderator speak up - is maemo multitouch thread ok or not

2008-09-04 Thread maemo
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote:

> I am really surprised, there is a small group of maemo developers
> showing interest not to discuss maemo multitouch and showing interest to have 
> maemo no-multitouch in next years.
> 
> Quite contrary to iPhone developers , doing their best to make iPhone No.1 
> gizmo.

But (to loosely paraphrase a famous Monty Python sketch) a discussion 
isn't merely contradiction.

I think you're mistaken if you think that shouting loud enough on 
this mailing list (and annoying everyone in the process) will make Nokia 
produce an iPhone-like multitouch device.

By all means discuss (properly) but be respectful of others (who may have 
a better understanding of the issues than you do.


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Re: Nokia - lost second chance - another multitouch by Apple patented

2008-09-04 Thread maemo
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Darius Jack wrote:

> COULD YOU STOP SPAMMING THIS LIST ? THANKS !


Instead of just arguing (which is quite annoying BTW), why dont you write 
some code or take your comments offlist? This tirade serves no purpose.


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GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_tree_model_filter_row_has_child_toggled: assertion `elt->visible' failed

2008-08-26 Thread learning maemo

Hello,

I came across this problem.

 GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_tree_model_filter_row_has_child_toggled: assertion 
`elt->visible' failed
by using the functions like htis.

  GtkWidget* dialog = hildon_file_chooser_dialog_new(GTK_WINDOW(window), 
GTK_FILE_CHOOSER_ACTION_OPEN);
  gtk_widget_show_all(GTK_WIDGET(dialog));
  if (gtk_dialog_run(GTK_DIALOG(dialog)) == GTK_RESPONSE_OK) {
filename =
  gtk_file_chooser_get_filename(GTK_FILE_CHOOSER(dialog));
  }

How can I resolve this problem?

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RE: hildon_file_chooser_dialog_new() can not get the wanted files

2008-08-26 Thread learning maemo

Hello Marius, 

Thank you for your reply! 
 " These should all appear under the Nokia N800 entry, if you expand it." How 
can we expand it?



> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:08:24 +0300
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: hildon_file_chooser_dialog_new() can not get the wanted files
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 02:49:52PM +0300, learning maemo wrote:
> > I use the function  hildon_file_chooser_dialog_new() to choose and
> > open files. But I can not get the correct folders and file names.
> > 
> > For example,
> > 
> > I just got two folders: Nokia N800 and bluetooth. 
> > 
> > I hope to get the file MyDocs/*.*. If possible, how can I get it?
> 
> These should all appear under the Nokia N800 entry, if you expand it.
> 
> Marius Gedminas
> -- 
> Suppose you went back to Ada Lovelace and asked her the difference between a
> script and a program. She'd probably look at you funny, then say something
> like: Well, a script is what you give the actors, but a program is what you
> give the audience.
> -- Larry Wall

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hildon_file_chooser_dialog_new() can not get the wanted files

2008-08-26 Thread learning maemo

Hello,

I use the function  hildon_file_chooser_dialog_new() to choose and open files. 
But I can not get the correct folders and file names.

For example,

I just got two folders: Nokia N800 and bluetooth. 

I hope to get the file MyDocs/*.*. If possible, how can I get it?

Thanks!

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Re: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.so

2008-08-20 Thread maemo
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Darius Jack wrote:

> any solution to a known problem ( a lot of entries in Google)
> (Linux + mysql + php )
> mysql worked worked fine, testing mysql commands
> to create a user with select, usage privileges on a tabase.*
> and it worked 
> on shutdown
> and reboot
> can't run mysql
> mysqld starts to run and stops, looking for a socket (none).

Im guessing the fact the unix socket is in /tmp is a problem because /tmp 
is probably wiped during the boot process.

Might be better off telling MySQL to use TCP sockets and bind to 127.0.0.1 
instead.


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Re: Memory card mmc changed status to Read only file system (30)

2008-08-12 Thread maemo
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Darius Jack wrote:

> OS2007HE worked fine, run shell scripts, applications.
> Recently run wget in recursive mode.
> Download to flash memory.
> Learned  how to recorsive download to media memory card (MMC).
> Copied downloaded html files from flash to memory card to make room on flash.
> 
> And finally tried to remove wget downloaded files from media memory card
> and found out any, every, each file to be asterisked and can not be deleted.
> 
> run mount from command line
> one entry for /media/mmc1
> 
> /dev/mcblk0.. on /media/mmc1 type vfat (rw, noauto, nodev, noexec, nosuid, 
> utf8, uid=2, shortname=mixed, dmask=000)
> 
> chmod -x /media/mmc1
> chmod: /media/mmc1: Read-only file system

Sometimes, a corrupt file-system will be forced into read-only mode. Take 
the card out and run some disk checking tool on a PC/Mac/Linux machine.



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Re: Chmod Issue on 810

2008-07-31 Thread maemo
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Luca Olivetti wrote:

> > You mean, the sqlite3 shell isn't installed, since sqlite3 itself *is* 
> > that library. I'm not sure if is there a package for maemo providing the 
> > shell
> 
> It appears currently there isn't one:
> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3215

I ran up against the same problem a few months ago.

I installed the sqlite command-line package from Graham Cobb and now 
have the shell command available for testing/debugging databases.


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Re: sqlite3 CLI?

2008-06-03 Thread maemo
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Marius Gedminas wrote:

> Well, there are now three people who miss it, so I'll go and file the
> bug.
> 
> Here it is: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3215


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sqlite3 CLI?

2008-05-30 Thread maemo

Which package do I need to install to have the sqlite3 command-line tool 
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Video Encoding (most probably revisited many times)

2008-04-16 Thread maemo

I have been unable to encode ANY video for the N810 on a Mac. Ive played 
with ffmpegX, mencoder, Handbrake, etc. Ive tried keeping resolutions 
small (Im trying a 240x182 px movie right now). Ive tried creating various 
movie files encoded with various codecs inside an AVI container and 
nothing works at all.

Most of the 'nice' encoding tools Ive seen are all for Windows.

Is there a solution for us humble Mac people?



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Re: BECOMEROOT

2008-04-16 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/4/16, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 04:01:45AM +0200, sebastian maemo wrote:
> > I can install lots of applications in my cellphone (also a Nokia). But I
> can
> > install only a few applications in the 770, unless I do a (non-trivial)
>
> Can you?  I have an S60 phone and -although there are a number of
> applications for it- most of them are either 1) non-free (in code or cost),
> and 2) require a special signature, without which they are very difficult to
> install.


I have an S60 3rd Nokia phone. I've installed on it:

1. A browser that works much better than the browser in 770
2. Google Maps
3. Gmail application
4. PDF viewer
5. PowerPoint viewer
6. Word viewer
7. Excel viewer
8. RealPlayer
9. Flash player
10. Audio book player
11. Book reader
12. Dictionary
13. DOS console
14. Weather app
15. mIRC
16. Blogger
17. YouTube viewer
18. Python console
19. JAVA VM
20. Basic interpreter
...

Of course, I had much more applications on my 770 than on my cell phone. But
to do that you need to boot from MMC.

I see this attitude as completely unproductive.


I completely agree.

 1) it was the first edition of the IT.  Anytime you willingly step into
> version 1.0, you become a beta tester and will be subject to all types of
> difficulties not necessarily expected.  This is as true for new electronics
> as it is for first run cars.


Not really. Mine was version 2.0. And in that version WPA wifi still doesn't
work properly because of a problem with certificates management. It means
that I cannot access the secured wifi at my uni, unless I do the trick of
connecting via unsecure network and then VPN. Pretty slow and frustrating
when VPN disconnects every now and then... My Nokia phone connects perfectly
to the secured wifi network...

2) the 770 is now an outdated model.  I loved mine and have only recently
> moved to an 800.  I love OS2008, with the flash support, video, and easy
> installation of apps like canola.  But it was a necessary move.  If I were
> consent to do a little rss, web, IM, and gizmo calls, I would stick with the
> 770, but like you, I want more, more, more out of my internet tablet.  I
> want to try all the differnt applications and that requires the newer
> operating system.


An 770 costed almost USD500. No comment about changing devices as if it were
changing the headphones...

Once you start trying to run *any* third party app, it does become something
> of a chaos.  Even on my 800, the catalogs (repos) have become somewhat
> chaotic, yet still manageable.


That's right. But an 770 *without* third party apps is pretty useless...

And here, as I see it, is the root of your problem.  When you start doing
> things like "booting from MMC", you have left the realm of simple end user
> and become a hacker.  Welcome to the club!  It is fun, rewarding, and
> frustrating.  But to claim to be a "simple end user", you would not even try
> to install applications like BecomeRoot or apps that might require root
> privileges.  An end user is someone like a friend of mine at work; I flashed
> her device to OS2008 and she remains within the apps browsable through
> Application Manager.


Sure... Nokia has made a hacker of me... I've even published wikis on Debian
pages that are highly appreciated... but when I have to start from ground
zero again, now and then, it's pretty frustrating...

When you want to be restrained by your device, then the Apple iPhone is the
> right thing for you.  When you want the -sometimes difficult- ability to
> extend your device beyond the imaginings of even its developers, then
> something like the maemo-based IT, or an S60 phone is for you.  Pros and
> cons to both sides, but that is the simple presentation.


Seriously, if I had bought my N80 (cell phone) before my N770, I think I
wouldn't have bought it at all. Now I try to use the 770 as mini-laptop. But
it lacks lots of features, like upgrading package distributions, completely
resolved dependencies (it's very difficult to end up with a broken system
from an up-to-date debian distribution - and I use a testing debian -, but
it's very easy to end up with a broken system when playing with your 770)...


enjoy hacking on your 770, you are definitely in the club now!


Definitely...

I wish that 770 used a standard debian (armel) distribution so that I could
rely on debian servers to install, update and maintain my favourite
packages...
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Re: BECOMEROOT

2008-04-15 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/4/15, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> It is still here
>
> http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/bora/user/binary-armel/becomeroot_0.1-2_armel.deband
>  since it is simple shell script it should work on any system including
> OS2006, just install/click the deb directly, do not add Bora repository.
>

Again, I must thank Frantisek for his help. He also helped me a lot when I
was truly upset for not being able to install a root file system in the MMC.
At that time, I didn't even know how to edit a file with "vim"... With his
kind help, I finally succeeded, and then wrote a howto where I described all
the steps I followed, with his guidance. Just to be helpful and grateful to
the linux maemo community. I must admit that it was really hard, but I
learned a lot I didn't know about linux systems and basic administration.

But it's too much, right? I cannot accept that a deb package in a bora
folder is going to be useful for a mistral distribution. It's good that (as
you kindly warn me) it's a simple shell script and should work anyway... but
I don't want to know it. For me it's too much... I don't want to check the
contents of deb packages to see whether they are going to work on my 770 or
not. Bora means N800 and that's it. I'm supposed not to even touch that
folder. I'm not ashamed to be a linux ignorant, by the way.

When I bought my 770 nobody warned me that if I wasn't a linux hacker then
my little device would only be useful to surf the web (slowly and without
Flash and Java features).

I can install lots of applications in my cellphone (also a Nokia). But I can
install only a few applications in the 770, unless I do a (non-trivial)
trick to install them on the MMC. To learn that trick was really hard. And
Frantisek helped me a lot with that.

Now, the package I need is gone to another folder. A folder I'm supposed not
to check because I'm using mistral distribution...

That's fucking nonsense.

There's a chaos in deb packages maintaining and distribution... It's
obviously Nokia's fault... Or maybe it's my fault because I've bought a
Nokia 770 without getting first a master degree in computer science... (is
that what Marius means in his PD??).

I think that I'll be able to get my 770 booting again from MMC, but this
kind of things should never happen. At least to a simple end user...
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Re: BECOMEROOT

2008-04-15 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/4/15, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> There is no need to be so upset ...


Yes, there is. Definitely.

You can still do it the old way :
>
> - Switch to R&D mode (with the linux flasher
> - edit the gainroot shell script


Yeah, sure, why not?

You're done ;)


Yes, I'm done...
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BECOMEROOT

2008-04-15 Thread sebastian maemo
Thank you very much to the developers and maintainers of the pages:

 http://mg.pov.lt/770

and

 http://eko.one.pl/maemo

because they had a folder for MAEMO distributions (that is ITOS 2006) with
the package BECOMEROOT in it, and now they had ERASED it completely.

Nevertheless, http://mg.pov.lt/770 has kept a folder called "obsolete" with
a package becomeroot in it, but it doesn't work.

It's great that they help us so much. I've just reflashed my 770 and won't
be able to easily become root again unless I buy an N800 and install BORA on
it.

I wish I had downloaded and saved the deb packages. Now I'm fucked.

Fucking thanks.
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Re: how to install gst-plugins-bad on N810

2008-04-12 Thread Minti Maemo
Hi Edgard,

I did  installation  as par your guidelines 
I took gst-plugins-bad-0.10.4 tar , I also installed gst-plugins-ugly0.10.5 
but I  dint get respective plugin at /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/*.so

 
I am interested in neonhttpsrc  plugin  (libgstneonhttpsrc.so).
I dint get libgstneonhttpsrc.so at location  /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/
does it has other dependences ?


BR,
Minti
 
ext Edgard wrote:

>Hi Minti,

>there is no armel pkg 'cause plugins in gst-bad are still in bad
>quality, or even have license issues in which case will be moved to
>gst-ugly when the quality is ok.

>download it from http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-plugins-bad/
>install the gst-dev pkgs in your scratch box

>and compile in your scratchbox (./autogen --prefix=/usr --disable-debug
>--disable-docbook --disable-gtk-doc)

>and copy the /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/*.so to the same location in your
>device

>btw: in which plugin are you interested?

>BR,
>Edgard



ext Minti Maemo wrote:
> hello,
> 
> I want to install gst-plugins-bad  on N810 , I don't find any armel.deb 
> package of same plugin  
> As it is not availabe in maemo repository  (result of apt-cache search gst )
> how can I install gst-plugins-bad  Version: 0.10.4 or higher 
> 
> Thanks 
> minti 
> 
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Re: SDK on Ubuntu

2008-04-09 Thread maemo
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Luca Olivetti wrote:

> En/na [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrit:
> > I bought an 8Gb EEE PC for use as a mobile development platform for maemo 
> > (amongst other things :-). Now Im wondering how much disk space I need for 
> > Scratchbox + Chinook SDK + Xephyr?
> 
> This is the space used by scratchbox+sdk, fresh install, under mandriva, 
> so debian packages may be different.
> 
> $ du -sh /mnt/disk1/maemo/
> 1.7G/mnt/disk1/maemo/


Yeah, I just did a full install and Ive used around 2Gb of space.


I ran Xephyr and started the "emulator" under it successfully so all is 
well. But the emulated environment doesn't appear to have any apps 
installed inside it - is this normal?



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Re: SDK on Ubuntu

2008-04-09 Thread maemo
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Ryan Pavlik wrote:

> IIRC the installer scripts (for the regular SDK) end up installing debs 
> on ubuntu.  The other option is the SDK+ which is based on scratchbox 2, 
> which I think is handled with apt-get.

Which begs the question: which is better? Is Scratchbox 2 the future path 
for maemo releases? Or would it introduce more problems and be a bad idea?



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SDK on Ubuntu

2008-04-09 Thread maemo

I bought an 8Gb EEE PC for use as a mobile development platform for maemo 
(amongst other things :-). Now Im wondering how much disk space I need for 
Scratchbox + Chinook SDK + Xephyr?

Is it possible to use apt-get instead of the installer scripts?



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Re: To all Ruby developers on Maemo

2008-04-09 Thread maemo
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Mark Somerville wrote:

> The developers of ruby-gtk2, on which ruby-maemo is built, are planning a
> new release soon. This is great news, because they say they have fixed
> the mainloop polling that causes the CPU to wakeup around 100 times a
> second, killing the battery.
> 
> However, the developer (Tom Swindell) of ruby-maemo (the Hildon
> bindings) seems to have disappeared and I don't have the ruby-maemo
> source code. Do you? Is anyone planning to maintain it? Should we break
> ruby-maemo into ruby-hildon and ruby-gtk2?
> 
> Is anyone else actually using ruby-maemo?
> 
> Any discussions on this stuff would be welcome. It would even be nice
> just to find out who else uses ruby-maemo!

Ive been waiting for the ruby packages on maemo to not require voodoo to 
install (at least, that's how I remember it on the N800). Does ruby-maemo 
give me that? I think the use of Ruby on maemo has been held back...



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how to install gst-plugins-bad on N810

2008-04-08 Thread Minti Maemo
hello,

I want to install gst-plugins-bad  on N810 , I don't find any armel.deb package 
of same plugin  
As it is not availabe in maemo repository  (result of apt-cache search gst )
how can I install gst-plugins-bad  Version: 0.10.4 or higher 

Thanks 
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Re: hildon/hildon-file-chooser-dialog.h error

2008-04-08 Thread Minti Maemo
search  hildon-file-chooser-dialog.h in ur system using " locate 
hildon-file-chooser-dialog.h " command 
and include the same file before main 
eg.. it might be having path like hildon-widgets/hildon-file-chooser-dialog.h 
then do 
#include 

try it 

minti 




- Original Message 
From: Sanjay Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Sent: Saturday, 29 March, 2008 9:49:56 AM
Subject: Re: hildon/hildon-file-chooser-dialog.h error

Hi Jani Mikkonen,
I used the following command for compilation:

[sbox-CHINOOK_X86] gcc `pkg-config gtk+-2.0 hildon-1 --cflags --libs` -Wall 
example_file_chooser.c

Thanks & Regards,
Sanjay


On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Jani Mikkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hiya.

How did you try to compile? Did you pass the appropriate -I and -l switches ?

Something like this would propably help you out:

pkg-config hildon-1 --cflags --libs

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Re: Re: T

2008-03-05 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/3/5, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> And remember that ARM has zero interest in helping the maemo project
> utilize those CPU extensions. Simply purchasing the hardware is not good
> enough for them.
>
> Luis


They *sell* that help... :)
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Re: 答复: Anybody heared Ubuntu mobile?

2008-03-05 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/3/5, =?UTF-8?Q?Beno=C3=AEt=20HERVIER=20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> Remember that java is available due to the x86 cpu.


Also remember that ARM cpu has got JAZELLE (Java support)
;-)
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Re: 答复: Anybody heared Ubuntu mobile?

2008-03-05 Thread sebastian maemo
>
> But, why would you guys want to switch from Maemo ?
>
> --
> anidel


Maybe because Ubuntu Mobile has got Java support?...
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Re: Best Wishes for you in the coming Chinese new year :)

2008-02-06 Thread sebastian maemo
Happy New Year of the Rat ;)

Salut,
Sebas.


2008/2/6, 黄杲 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi, all:
>  Tomorrow is Chinese New Year, and tonight is one of the happiest
> nights for all Chinese. Though I think currently there are not so many Maemo
> hackers or users in China, I believe there will more and more Maemo
> developers in the coming new year.
>  Wish all Chinese maemo guys have a wonderful New Year festival
> and a fantastic new year. And please give me the chance to express my best
> wishes for all of you and Mameo!  :)
>
> Best Regards
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Re: What does Nokia's acquisition of Trolltech mean to Maemo?

2008-01-29 Thread maemo
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Klaus Rotter wrote:

> Well, it is (to me) more a question of C vs C++. I started with C about 
> twenty years ago and liked it a lot. But some of the features of C++ in 
> addition with Qt are IMHO more "elegant", if you use a OO toolkit with 
> an OO language like C++. E.g. methods overloading (which is really nice).
> 
> But I often think C++ has to many features (for sure I didn't know them 
> all) and it is bloated whereas I think I know pretty much features of C.


Same for me: C++ has too many features; too bloated.


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Re: What does Nokia's acquisition of Trolltech mean to Maemo?

2008-01-29 Thread maemo
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Klaus Rotter wrote:

> I really like the look and feel of Maemo, but IMHO Qt's API is superior 
> to the one of Gtk.

Ive heard this a few times without people mentioning any speicifcs? In 
what way is it superior? Are there features in Qt that are not in GTK (and 
vice versa) ? Could some of those ideas get into GTK (and hence maemo?).

There was also talk awhile back about Gnome Mobile effort and how maemo is 
feeding into that. Can anyone explain / describe what that actually means?


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Re: What does Nokia's acquisition of Trolltech mean to Maemo?

2008-01-28 Thread maemo
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

> Don't fool yourself. Qt is to Nokia what Linux was to IBM: the only
> way to unify the development of various hardware platform. You can bet
> it's no fun to develop libs to s40 and s60, so why leave internet
> tablets out of this?

Just saw this on maemo-users list:

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:24:30PM +, Matt Emson wrote:

http://www.nokia.com/A4813580 -> go to webcast

According to Kai Oistamo (around minute 9):

"I want also to make clear that the key driver for Nokia doing this
acquisition is not to develop a Linux-based mobile device. This
acquisition really is enhancing and making even more competitive S40,
S60 and Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome
[...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt"


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Re: What does Nokia's acquisition of Trolltech mean to Maemo?

2008-01-28 Thread maemo
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

> Don't fool yourself. Qt is to Nokia what Linux was to IBM: the only
> way to unify the development of various hardware platform. You can bet
> it's no fun to develop libs to s40 and s60, so why leave internet
> tablets out of this?

Why bother with getting Hildon changes accepted upstream then? Why bother 
with Gnome Mobile? This might be just a way of hedging bets.

> I don't see any action in the near future, but I'd like to see all the
> platforms converging to Qt. Qt have good bindings for Python and Java,

Personally, I dont like Java. Dont like Python much either.
But there seems to be plenty of Python apps in maemo.

> at least. They provide excellent abstraction layer, portability and
> many features, like Phone, Bluetooth and other stacks ready and
> integrated. It can also use Qvfb or X11, with almost the same code, in
> the end it's less or same work than having GTK and Hildon supported.

Or it could mean putting some of those ideas into Hildon.

> Ok, don't understand me wrong or even say that GTK or Gnome provide
> some of these things. Yes, I know, we have webkit-gtk, gstreamer,
> cairo, abiword, gnumeric and much more, but going Qt is not the end of
> the world (but it's not _the_ solution either).

I hope not...


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Re: What does Nokia's acquisition of Trolltech mean to Maemo?

2008-01-28 Thread maemo
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jae Stutzman wrote:

> This is really strange. We have stayed away from qt due to the
> commercial license required to do proprietary apps. Gtk fits the bill
> nicely for us, so where is the future of maemo now? This is quite
> strange. Nokia reminds me of the weather in Texas...very unpredictable
> :)

As someone else pointed out: the press release specifically mentions 
S60 and S40 which are Symbian platforms, not Linux. Also mentions Open C 
which is a porting layer for Symbian OS.

Ive played with EPOC and Symbian OS development tools in the past so I 
have some familiarity with it.


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Re: Product roadmap

2008-01-10 Thread maemo
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, John Holmblad wrote:

> interestingly, just today I was driving around the neighborhoods 
> (residential) in the vicinity of Sprints' HQ and there are work crews 
> putting up mobile radio towers of a kind that I have not seen before. 
> Furthermore they are being mounted on telephone poles which is unusual 
> for this area. Given the demographics of the zip codes where these are 
> being deployed

I believe the launch will initially only cover Baltimore, Washington and 
Chicago (weird how New York is always missed whenever any carrier / ISP 
rolls out a new service/network).

Im also looking forward to a WiMax-enabled Nokia tablet (it will put those 
iPhone users 'stuck' on AT&T's crappy data network to shame!).



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Re: Product roadmap

2008-01-10 Thread maemo
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, John Mitchell wrote:

>Agreed. I have thought this exact thing when the 770 was so quickly
> dropped. Why does Nokia have such problems with communicating with the
> community that has brought it so much?

This eWeek article about Sprint's WiMax rollout (which launches end of 
April) mentions this:

"It plans to offer only a data card for laptops and a modem for desktop 
computers when it kicks off the service, and has no immediate plans to 
sell phones that include the technology, West said. Other devices will be 
sold through electronics retailers rather than Sprint, he said.

West said he expects up to 10 WiMax devices to be available at the time 
Sprint launches its service. One of them is a Web browsing device that 
Nokia plans to sell."


http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Sprint-WiMax-on-Track-for-End-of-April/



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Console apps

2008-01-10 Thread maemo

Any docs on building console apps on maemo?

Also, what about running daemons from a system init script, how is that 
done? Im assuming one needs to be root to install and to start/stop 
services from an init script?



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How to use Qenu for maemo

2008-01-08 Thread Minti Maemo
hi 

i want to use qemo to test my maemo  application

i followed the steps  as given in site 


http://maemogeek.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default


i am not getting  how to run qemo  and how to test application inside qemo
can anyone help me?

i run the command inside scratchbox with ARMEL target 
qemu-arm-eabi-sb2   (with binary as a second parameter )
and geeting the error  :  osso_initialize failed.
i checked with stating maemo using  af-sb-init.sh  start. i am getting 
following error

Unsupported setsockopt level=1 optname=9 
Unsupported setsockopt level=1 optname=9 
sapwood-server[27784]: GLIB WARNING ** Gdk - cannot open display: (null)
qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - exiting
qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - exiting
Could not open display. Is the DISPLAY environment variable set?
matchbox-wm: can't open display! check your DISPLAY variable.
maemo-launcher: child (pid=27834) terminated due to signal=11
maemo-launcher: child (pid=27831) terminated due to signal=11
maemo-launcher: no child 27844 found in the kindergarten.
maemo-launcher: child (pid=27844) terminated due to exit()=0
maemo-launcher: no child 27847 found in the kindergarten.
maemo-launcher: child (pid=27847) terminated due to exit()=0

can anyone please help me?

Thanks
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Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-01 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/1/2, Damien Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> @Clarence: I agree that dpkg should be able to handle this. Would
> "REPLACE: busybox(##version##)" be needed instead of PROVIDES? Because
> busybox is an essential package, you can't uninstall the existing one to
> reinstall the new one, which makes me suspect that the new one would need to
> REPLACE the old one.


What would happen with an order like this?...
# apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 install 


Maybe a broken system?
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Re: osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed

2008-01-01 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi there:

I'm having a problem with this issue. I don't know whether it's a bug or
not. I could report it just in case. I've seen that these packages are
maintained by our colleagues at Nokia Johan and Kimmo.

The situation is this:

1. I've just flashed the 770 with Fanoush's image:
http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/initfs_flasher.tgz

2. After installing the packages becomeroot, osso-xterm and e2fsprogs, and
doing several apt-get update and apt-get upgrade I have the following
problem when trying an apt-get dist-upgrade:

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages

But I obviously have these packages perfectly installed... Nevertheless I
try a formula that I've found in Google searching for this problem (only one
result):
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:P8VfGyO0JOwJ:mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%2523maemo.2007-03-08.log.html+%22osso-app-killer:+Depends:+osso-bttools+but+it+is+not+going+to+be+installed%22&hl=es&ct=clnk&cd=2

The formula is:
# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install
osso-app-killer
# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install
osso-bttools

The result is a successful reinstall... But it doesn't work... The problem
is still the same...

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages.

It isn't really a problem, since I can install any package I like, even
build-essential... but I'd like to be able to do a dist-upgrade ;(

Salut,
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osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed

2008-01-01 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi there:

I'm having a problem with this issue. I don't know whether it's a bug or
not. I could report it just in case. I've seen that these packages are
maintained by our colleagues at Nokia Johan and Kimmo.

The situation is this:

1. I've just flashed the 770 with Fanoush's image:
http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/initfs_flasher.tgz

2. After installing the packages becomeroot, osso-xterm and e2fsprogs, and
doing several apt-get update and apt-get upgrade I have the following
problem when trying an apt-get dist-upgrade:

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages

But I obviously have these packages perfectly installed... Nevertheless I
try a formula that I've found in Google searching for this problem (only one
result):
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:P8VfGyO0JOwJ:mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%2523maemo.2007-03-08.log.html+%22osso-app-killer:+Depends:+osso-bttools+but+it+is+not+going+to+be+installed%22&hl=es&ct=clnk&cd=2

The formula is:
# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install
osso-app-killer
# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install
osso-bttools

The result is a successful reinstall... But it doesn't work... The problem
is still the same...

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages.

It isn't really a problem, since I can install any package I like, even
build-essential... but I'd like to be able to do a dist-upgrade ;(

Salut,
Sebas.
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osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed

2008-01-01 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi there:

I'm having a problem with this issue. I don't know whether it's a bug or
not. I could report it just in case. I've seen that these packages are
maintained by our colleagues at Nokia Johan and Kimmo.

The situation is this:

1. I've just flashed the 770 with Fanoush's image:
http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/initfs_flasher.tgz

2. After installing the packages becomeroot, osso-xterm and e2fsprogs, and
doing several apt-get update and apt-get upgrade I have the following
problem when trying an apt-get dist-upgrade:

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages

But I obviously have these packages perfectly installed... Nevertheless I
try a formula that I've found in Google searching for this problem (only one
result):
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:P8VfGyO0JOwJ:mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%2523maemo.2007-03-08.log.html+%22osso-app-killer:+Depends:+osso-bttools+but+it+is+not+going+to+be+installed%22&hl=es&ct=clnk&cd=2

The formula is:
# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install
osso-app-killer
# apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install
osso-bttools

The result is a successful reinstall... But it doesn't work... The problem
is still the same...

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused
by held packages.

It isn't really a problem, since I can install any package I like, even
build-essential... but I'd like to be able to do a dist-upgrade ;(

Salut,
Sebas.
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Re: Is the repository up

2007-12-26 Thread sebastian maemo
They were up when I wrote that, but today they're down again...

2007/12/26, Michael R. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 11:21 -0500, harini satyanarayanan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if the repository has been fixed, if so can
> > someone please give information on how to set-up Chinook if it was a
> > workaround on the original process.
>
> It's not up for me. I'm still getting the bad result from the web server
> when the sdk install script attempts to get
> http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz
>
>
>
> > Thanks,
> > Harini
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Re: Chinook install

2007-12-20 Thread maemo

Ive installed Scratchbox and now Im struggling with the Maemo install.

Im running the maemo-sdk-install script.

Is there a problem repository.maemo.org?

Im seeing this:


Failed to fetch 
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/chinook/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  
Connection failed
Reading package lists... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.
E: Unable to run 'apt-get update' on the target.
E: Please correct any network problems.
E: Scratchbox login returned error 100.

The installation process was unable to run 'apt-get update' inside
the installed targets in order to update the local package database.
This could be due to an error in network configuration inside scratchbox.
Common causes are incorrect proxy   settings and the 'hosts' line in
/scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf.
For the 'hosts' line in /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf the following
should usually be enough:
hosts:  files dns

Once network issues have been resolved, you should run the installer again.



If I try that last URL in a web browser I get this error:

An error occurred while processing your request.

Reference #97.a510bb0c.1198184659.1107d1d9


I should disclose that I am behind a proxy server, but setting http_proxy 
worked before for the Scratchbox install.


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Re: Chinook install

2007-12-20 Thread maemo
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Michael R. Head wrote:

> Here's a good blog post describing the process for Ubuntu 7.10:
> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=453

This didn't work either.

However, I found in the mameo 4 docs a little piece about making sure that 
binfmt_misc was loaded as a module. I loaded this module and ran the 
install script with the -d and -u options.

It appears to be working... right now its happily downloading a bunch of 
packages.

Now I have to figure out how to load this module automatically.


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Re: Chinook install

2007-12-19 Thread maemo
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Michael R. Head wrote:

> Here's a good blog post describing the process for Ubuntu 7.10:
> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=453

Thanks - Im running 7.10 too. Ill try it out.

Maybe someone can add that to the wiki? :-)


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Re: Chinook install

2007-12-19 Thread maemo
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, mike saunby wrote:

> Try again without 'sudo'.  Should be fine then.

I tried it both with and without sudo without any change...


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Chinook install

2007-12-19 Thread maemo

What is the deal with the Chinook install instructions? - they contain 
lots of errors and mistakes it seems to me?

Im trying to install Scratchbox on an Ubuntu box.

I thought since it was like Debian I could just use the script. 

The URL for downloading the script is wrong. I found the correct 
URL and managed to download it. Following the instructions I run the 
install script as root and that fails (with an error saying that the 
script should not be run as root :-)

So I tried to download the packages manually and follow the 
official install docs. The instructions to add a URL to the repository 
also appear to contain the wrong URL - running apt-get update gives me a 
"404 Packages.gz not found" error.

So Im still scratching my head wondering how to install...

Here's what the script produces:

$ sudo ./maemo-sdk-install_4.0.sh 

This script will install maemo SDK 4.0 chinook release to your computer.

Install options
Do not download or install Nokia EUSA binaries (no)
Force remove of existing targets (no)
Alternative sources.list ('')

Target configuration for armel (CHINOOK_ARMEL)
compiler=cs2005q3.2-glibc2.5-arm
devkits=perl:debian-etch:maemo3-tools:cputransp
cputransp=qemu-arm-0.8.2-sb2

Target configuration for i386 (CHINOOK_X86)
compiler=cs2005q3.2-glibc2.5-i386
devkits=perl:debian-etch:maemo3-tools

Checking for prerequisites
--

wget tool in path... /usr/bin/wget
Checking for dpkg tool in path... /usr/bin/dpkg
Running outside of scratchbox... yes
Script not run as user root... no
E: This script should NOT be run as user root.

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Re: Maemo development on Mac OS X

2007-12-19 Thread maemo
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Julio Biason wrote:

> I just got a MacBook Pro and I was wondering if there is a way to  
> install a Maemo development on it. I know I can run a Linux box inside  
> Parallels/VMWare, but I was wondering if there is a native way to do it.

I would just install Debian inside something like VirtualBox...


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Apache + PHP5 + MySQL/SQLite

2007-12-18 Thread maemo

Anyone know of any packages that install Apache and PHP5 on OS2008?

Also MySQL or SQLite?


Would love to use my N810 as a mobile coding machine :-)


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N810 availability

2007-12-10 Thread maemo

If you're lucky enough to live near any of the Nokia stores, its 
definately worth calling them up to see if they have any N810's in stock.

I know this won't be useful for people with discount codes, but for the 
rest of us waiting for availability online, a store may be your best bet.

I just picked up my N810 on Saturday from the Nokia store in New York.

So far Im noticing lots of nice little changes and tweaks to the interface 
and apps making it seem a lot more polished.

Luckily I had used a 4Gb miniSD card in my N800 so upgrading wasn't a 
problem...



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Re: Static and dynamic linkage

2007-12-03 Thread maemo
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Guillem Jover wrote:

> Better do something like:
> 
>   $ gcc -o test \
>   -lsomedynamiclib \
>   -Wl,-Bstatic -lsomestaticlib -Wl,-Bdynamic \
>   -lsomeotherdynamiclib \
>   ...
> 
> > > Specifically, I want to statically link in the SQLite library but leave 
> > > the rest of the linkage as is.
> 
> I'd say better not to statically link at all.


Which would mean having to deal with SQLite as a dependency of this 
package...




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Re: Static and dynamic linkage

2007-12-03 Thread maemo
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Eero Tamminen wrote:

> Just specify the static library you want to link with:
>   gcc -o test -lsomedynamiclib my-static-libs/foobar.a


Using autotools?


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Static and dynamic linkage

2007-11-27 Thread maemo

Is there a standard way to ask for a specific library to be linked in 
statically and the rest to be dynamic?

Specifically, I want to statically link in the SQLite library but leave 
the rest of the linkage as is.



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how to resize gtk_window in hildon frameworke

2007-11-23 Thread Minti Maemo
Hi
i am creating one gtk window in my hildon application window 
i want to resize this new created window 
i used gtk_window_set_default_size()but it is resizing gtk window
how can i resize my gtk_window in hildon application window?

Thanks 
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[no subject]

2007-11-23 Thread Minti Maemo
Hi
in my hildon application window, I am using treeview  and attaching 
"row-activated" signal to it 
if my store  is list_store  then this signal is able to connect and calling 
respective callback function 
but  if store   is tree_store it is not able to connect (not able to call 
callback function)

same  code is running on linux without  any bug (means tree_store is able 
to call its  "row-activated"callback function)

How it is possible ?why  it is happening? is there difference behavior  of 
treeview  (or treestore)  on maemo ?
How can i connect this same signal to treeview for  tree_store  ? 

Note: same code is working on linux

Thank you
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Re: New developer - lots of questions

2007-11-18 Thread maemo
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Ville Syrjälä wrote:

> I'm using a 64bit Gentoo system for maemo development at work and I have
> 32bit and 64bit Gentoo systems at home which also have the SDK installed.
> There's no need for a 32bit chroot as the 32bit scratchbox binaries work
> just fine on a 64bit Gentoo system.

But what if I wanted both Maemo 3.x and 4.x?

> The scratchbox ebuilds I'm using were
> originally made by Priit Laes (IIRC) and I've made some small modifications
> and kept them updated with new scratchbox releases. I've attached the
> ebuilds in case someone wants to take a look.

Thanks!

Are these patches/modifications likely to make there way into the Sunrise 
overlays?


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Re: New developer - lots of questions

2007-11-16 Thread maemo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Alberto Garcia wrote:

> Yes, it's possible. Just install scratchbox and then install each
> SDK. You don't need any HOWTO nor special steps to follow.
> 
> In fact I installed Maemo 2, 3 and 4 in the same machine without any
> problems.
> 
> A complete Debian system with all three SDKs in a QEMU compressed
> image is ~1.2 GB

Im already using QEMU for running Windoze (mainly because I need to test 
IE) so that sounds a good solution to keep it separate from my main 
system.

> I don't know what is the "standard" way of detecting which version of
> Maemo you're using, but you can do it using autoconf and checking the
> versions of some basic libraries such as libosso and hildon.

Are there any symbols that simply detect Maemo or not Maemo?


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Re: New developer - lots of questions

2007-11-16 Thread maemo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Igor Stoppa wrote:

> If disk space is not an issue for you

Nope, it isn't...

> , maybe you can do like me and use
> a chrooted environment for each sdk (i use it because I have a full
> 64bit system, but scratchbox is only 32 bit). I prefer this solution
> since it makes it quite easy to experiment: install your chrooted
> system, make a copy of it and feel free to trash it after experimenting.

My development is also pure 64bit :-)

So, do you install a 32bit distro + scratchbox inside the chroot or just 
scratchbox? I already have a 32bit chroot installed already (mainly to run 
32bit plugins and codecs).

> The gotcha is that I have to do all the bindmounting that scratchbox
> would do from the outside. Apparently doing a double bindmount from
> chroot to sbox of a /dev or /proc directory doesn't work and at the
> second step you end up with an empty directory.

Could you explain this a bit more?


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Re: New developer - lots of questions

2007-11-16 Thread maemo
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Erik Hovland wrote:

> I am in the middle of trying out the instructions mentioned at the moment.
> So I can't say how good those instructions are.

Install looks a little messy :-)

Ive been playing around with UML. A virtual kernel with a Debian disk 
image running inside Gentoo might be a viable solution.



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New developer - lots of questions

2007-11-16 Thread maemo

Ive been using the 770 and N800 for years, and finally decided to get into 
developing software for these things (I have experience in C and various 
scripting languages). But I have some (probably noob) questions:

1) Is it possible to have both Maemo 3.x and Maemo 4.x SDKs installed at 
the same time on one machine? If so, any HOWTO's for that? Any gotchas?

2) Anyone using Gentoo for development system?

3) Does each version of mamemo generate unique compiler symbols (maybe so 
I can use #ifdef in C to do conditional compiles)? How about if I want to 
write one set of code that can be built for both desktop and maemo device 
use? Any symbols could be used for that?



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how to get device screen size / client area / client rect

2007-11-13 Thread Minti Maemo
HI,
i want device client rect  size or screen size in my application.
how can i get / retrieve  device  (maemo)  screen size  or rect.
is there any api  in hildon which returns me such parameters?

thank you
minti





  

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reducing notebook tab size in hildon framework and adding widget next to it

2007-11-12 Thread Minti Maemo
hello ,
i am using GtkNotebook in my application containing two tabs. in a hildon 
framework the tabs gets expanded equally horizontally i want to give a good 
look to notebook by reducing tab size and adding images (and close button at 
the end of tab label) on tab how can i do it in hildon framework ? also i want 
to add other widget next/near to notebook tab if i use hbox the widget is added 
horizontally with notebook? how can i add such a widget near to only notebook 
tab?

Thank you 
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how to use gtk Resource Files .rc file in maemo (hildon framework)

2007-10-30 Thread Minti Maemo
hi,
i want to use gtk resource file  (e.g. MyResource.rc ) to change background 
colour / to put background image on widget
i am able to do same thing in simple gtk application . the same application  is 
not able to load resource file on maemo platform .Is there any difference to 
load / write the resouce for maemo application (in hildon framework)?

MyResource.rc
---
pixmap_path "../common/images/"

style "window"
{
 bg_pixmap[NORMAL] =  "bg.xpm"
}
widget_class "GtkWindow" style "window"

-

App.c/* Gtk App */
--
int main(int argc ,char* argv[])

{

GtkWidget *window;
gtk_init(&argc,&argv);

window = gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);
gtk_widget_set_name (window, "window");
  
gtk_rc_parse ("MyResource.rc");
gtk_widget_show(window);

gtk_main();
 

return 0;

}
----

App.c /*maemo App in Hildon */
-
int main( int argc, char* argv[] )
{
 
HildonProgram* program; 
GtkWidget* window; 

 gtk_init( &argc, &argv );

program = HILDON_PROGRAM( hildon_program_get_instance() );
g_set_application_name( "My App" );
  
window  =  hildon_window_new();
gtk_widget_set_name (window ,"window");
gtk_rc_parse ("MyResource.rc"); 
 
hildon_program_add_window( program, HILDON_WINDOW(window));
  
gtk_widget_show(window); 
gtk_main();
 
return 0;
}


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IHU

2007-10-30 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi, is anybody interested in porting IHU to Maemo?

*IHU* is a *Voice over IP* (VoIP) application for Linux (using Qt), that
creates an audio stream between two computers easily and with the minimal
traffic on the network.

I use Google Talk to communicate with my 770. The problem is that the other
part must use Windows, since there is not any application in linux (AFAIK)
that can establish a voice connection with Google Talk. Maybe I am wrong in
something, because 770 is a Debian system and uses Google Talk, but that is
what I have read at Google web site:
http://www.google.com/talk/intl/es/otherclients.html

The main features of IHU are:

   - Peer-to-Peer: the communication takes place directly between the
   computers (UDP and TCP both supported), without need of session protocols
   (such as SIP or H323) or other servers in the middle.
   - Good audio performance: IHU was born to give the best audio
   performance, low latency above all. For this purpose IHU is compatible with
   ALSA <http://www.alsa-project.org/>, now the default Linux sound
   architecture, but also with JACK <http://jackit.sourceforge.net/>, a
   low latency sound server. For the audio compression, IHU uses
Speex<http://www.speex.org/>,
   a codec optimized for speech (and completely free and open source).
   - Crypted stream: you have also the possibility to Encrypt/Decrypt the
   stream using a fast hybrid cryptographic system (RSA + Blowfish)
   - Command-line support: the GUI is not strictly necessary, you can run
   also a textual IHU from command-line (for example if you need to run the
   program on remote computers).
   - Free and Open Source: IHU is totally free and distributed under the
   terms of GNU General Public License<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>

The possibilities of use of IHU are endless, for example you can use it like
a phone to talk with your friends all around the world, or at home/work, to
talk between computers in the LAN (talkback), etc.

http://ihu.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Problem with secure WLAN connection (about WPA-PEAP)

2007-10-16 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi, Zeeshan:

Thank you very much, but I did already. I don't know what happens, but maybe
it's just impossible to get connected. I've googled a bit more and that's
what it seems to be: an unsolved (longstanding as one described it) bug.


2007/10/16, Zeeshan Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello!
>
> > Certificate: none * And that maybe the problem, because I am
> not
> > able to select the Server Certificate which I have previously downloaded
> and
> > installed... :(
>
> AFAIK, that is the client certificate. Try using the file-manager
> (by double-clicking on the CA file) to install the server CA
> certificate.
>
> --
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>
> Zeeshan Ali
>
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Problem with secure WLAN connection (about WPA-PEAP)

2007-10-16 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi friends,

I don't know why, but I cannot connect my 770 to my University WLAN. I
configure everything, and I've been able to connect with my laptop, and even
with my s60 3rd (also nokia) N80...

But still I cannot connect with my 770.

Configuration details via Network Manager:

Name: UPVNET2G
WLAN: yes

SSID: UPVNET2G
Type: Infraestructura
Method: WPA with EAP

Type of EAP: PEAP

Certificate: none * And that maybe the problem, because I am not
able to select the Server Certificate which I have previously downloaded and
installed... :(
Method of EAP: MSCHAPv2

User name: 
Password: 
Ask for password: yes

And that's all, but NO WAY ;-(

Maybe you know another way to configure this connection via xterm...

Anybody could help???

Thank you.

Sebas.

PD: There was a previous fatal experience without success (from Google):
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Hi all,

I want to configure my NOKIA 770 to connect to my companies
network. I installed the certificate my company is using in the
certificate manager. The certificate shows up in the certificate
authorities tab, not in the user tab. I chose WLAN for the certificate.
When I setup the new connection, there is no certificate available
to choose from the dropdown menu. I even tried rebooting the device,
still no success.

Software version used 1.2005.42-9

Thanks in advance for your help,

Kind regards

Tobias
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