Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-31 Thread Gabriel Schulhof

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 13:08 -0500, ext Michael R. Head wrote:
 Curious: where is it being marketed as a phone? I haven't seen any
 advertising suggesting that.
Go to the Nokia Web site and go to find products. There's a dropdown
that says Select a phone. When you open it, it lists the N810
thereunder. Unhealthy...



Gabriel
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Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-31 Thread Gabriel Schulhof

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 04:45 -0800, ext mitcheloc wrote:
 Okay, I'm not sure if this is already in the code or not but it would
 be great for 3rd party apps to be able to access the XMPP layer in the
 device. This will let app developers send and receive data safely and
 securely from other devices allowing cool peer to peer programs to be
 developed (like two-player chess). 
Well, Pidgin and Avahi are available from Maemo extras for OS2008.
Pidgin will allow you to do link-local chat via Bonjour and Avahi will
allow you to write other link-local-aware programs.

Another package that will allow you to perform link-local chat is the
RTcom package that includes telepathy-haze and telepathy-salut[0][1].



Gabriel

[0] The home page: http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/

[1] The .install file for the repository:
http://gronmayer.com/it/dl.php?id=167
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Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-27 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

Some personal opinions...

ext mitcheloc wrote:
 4. The D-Pad was moved to the keyboard... this is bad for using the device
 while closed.

But allows making the device smaller.
For some people that's more important.


 5. As far as I can tell Skype doesn't actually do video calling on this
 device.

Correct.


 (though the audio sounds good) I'm wondering how I can video call
 with someone that doesn't have an N810?

I think Gizmo and Gtalk should be able to do video,
can somebody confirm this?


 6. Why is this being marketed as a phone?

It isn't/shouldn't.

 I mean, I get the VoIP aspects
 (and those are very very cool) but you can't really hold this up to your
 ear. Yes you can use it in speaker mode but you can't use it in a private
 way easily and quickly with a headset.
 
 7. As a side point, one review online mentioned the keyboard was better then
 the E90. I'm sure that can be left to opinion but I have an E90 and the soft
 keys on it are much nicer.

The reason why the keys are hard is the thinness of the keyboard.
Another compromise for smaller size.


 10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using
 your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key.

I don't have N810 here right now, but I think you could either press
the function key twice or longer for it to stick down for the next
key press(es?).


- Eero

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Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
[No attribution line with Modest, sorry...]
- Original message -

 Some personal opinions...

 ext mitcheloc wrote:
  4. The D-Pad was moved to the keyboard... this is bad for using the device
  while closed.

 But allows making the device smaller.
 For some people that's more important.

Indeed, the smaller device and sxleeker looks are more important to me; 
compared with having the d-pad permanently accessible.

  10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using
  your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key.

 I don't have N810 here right now, but I think you could either press
 the function key twice or longer for it to stick down for the next
 key press(es?).

On mine I have the following options for both the Fn and shift keys:

  * Chorded - i.e. modifier and key held down at
the same time; as an a normal keyboard.

  * Sticky - a single press of the modifier, followed
by the right key.

  * Lock - two presses of the modifier to engage it
permanently, until it's pressed once more.

HTH,

Andrew

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Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-27 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 11:54 +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote:
  10. The number keys are on the keyboard are nearly impossible to press using
  your right thumb because of the need to hold down the function key.
 
 I don't have N810 here right now, but I think you could either press
 the function key twice or longer for it to stick down for the next
 key press(es?).

Yes, all of the keys you'd normally hold are sticky.  I'm very impressed
with the input method integration on the N810.

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Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-26 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 04:45:58AM -0800, mitcheloc wrote:

:12. The price is already kind of high, why charge $130 for the navigation
:software? Is it really that good?

not in my experience with the N800 version of the software,
MaemoMapper is free and better (for me).  The unfortunate difference
is that Maemo Mapper needs IP conenction to plot routes since it uses
and internet service for this rather than local logic.  This means
unless it's paired with a phone you need to do all your rout planning
near a WiFi access point not enroute.

Despite that and having paid for the N800 navigation kit, I never ever
use the Navicor software.

my US$0.02
-Jon

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Re: Is my head off center?

2007-12-24 Thread Michael R. Head

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 04:45 -0800, mitcheloc wrote:
 Okay, bear with me past the silly title..

 6. Why is this being marketed as a phone? I mean, I get the VoIP
 aspects (and those are very very cool) but you can't really hold this
 up to your ear. Yes you can use it in speaker mode but you can't use
 it in a private way easily and quickly with a headset. 

Curious: where is it being marketed as a phone? I haven't seen any
advertising suggesting that.

 Okay, I'm not sure if this is already in the code or not but it would
 be great for 3rd party apps to be able to access the XMPP layer in the
 device. This will let app developers send and receive data safely and
 securely from other devices allowing cool peer to peer programs to be
 developed (like two-player chess). 

I have a couple students working with me to develop an XMPP-based app
that integrates VOIP with such an app, so I'm quite sure this is
possible.

 TIA - Mitchel
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