RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
 The N800 backup program is adequate for simple backups; however, it 
 should include the ability to backup the storage cards and provide 
 some level of compression.  For example, I have two 2GB 
storage cards.  
 On one I do backups.  On the other I have photos, etc.  I should be 
 able to backup one card to the other.  And I should be able 
to select 
 backup of applications, etc.

Agree -- would love to backup apps.  After a reflash, you have 
to install everything again.  It's great to save your prefs 
etc, but getting the apps back would be very nice.  I'd like 
to have the backup be something you could schedule -- on my 
Palm's I used BackupMan and had it run each night at 1am.

This is much more difficult than you think (I was campaining for that
feature too).

 I do a lot of international travel and thus like to use the 24-hour 
 clock, e.g. 1300 for 1:00PM, 1400 for 2:00PM, etc.  This is 
the first 
 OS I've encountered that doesn't allow for 12- or 24-hour 
clocks.  I'd 
 like to see that changed.

no comment.


This is based on your country's way of handling it. US/UK will get you
the AM/PM way, other countries usually use the 24 hour system.

 For an Internet Tablet, e-mail is a major component.  Unless I'm 
 missing something, there is no option to delete all e-mails 
or even to 
 select several e-mails and delete them.  For example, I subscribe to 
 two newsgroups and regularly receive lots of e-mails.  In my 
office I 
 scan the headers to see which are important and delete the 
rest.  I do 
 the same with the N800 except I have to delete each e-mail 
one-by-one.  
 That's tedious and inefficient.

Agree - had that issue previously on the 770 as well.  I 
currently use Gmail in the browser.

Multiple selections are possible and rather easy. Just drag the pen over
several emails in a row. And then you can add more by dragging over
another list of emails. It supports multiple selections ;) Guess a video
with instructions would help here ...

--jakub


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Re: [maemo-users] GPE Tools

2007-01-26 Thread David

Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:


I’m interested in the community’s thoughts. I have a N800 and am 
currently using gpe-todo and gpe-contacts and I tried gpe-calendar 
(very short period). I sent my observations/thoughts/recommendations 
to George France but thought I’d put some of them here to see if I’m 
really off base or if others have similar thoughts. I’ve listed the 
programs in the order (my order) of completeness. I do realize that 
only gpe-todo has been listed for IT OS 07.


   1. gpe-todo
 1. I like gpe-todo more than the Palm todo program.
 2. I like the fact that the categories are shared amongst
three programs (todo, calendar, contacts); however, they
are unsorted. The contacts should, ideally, be
automatically sorted or, as a minimum, allow them to be
sorted.
 3. I see no value in the status display. If I tap the block,
a mark appears indicating it’s in progress. If I tap it
twice, a line goes through the task indicating it’s
complete. Thus, I see the status display as being
redundant and taking up real estate. By removing the
status, there’s more room for summary text.
 4. When entering a new todo item and checking the “Due:”, you
can choose a date by double-tapping the date you want. I’d
prefer to be able to just single tap.
   2. gpe-contacts
 1. This program has much potential. I like the ability to
choose from the alphabet on the side and all entries that
fall within that range appear. I also like the ability to
display entries based upon category (I missed this when I
wrote to George).
 2. I would either eliminate the image or move it to a
separate tab. With the open area for “Personal”, I would
break the name into two separate entries, “Last” and
“First” and then sort on the “Last” field. I would also
include a field in this tab called, “Business” and sort on
the first word. While there appear to be unexplained
exceptions, business names sort on the last name. Thus,
for example, AFA Orthopedic Clinic had to become,
“Orthopedic Clinic AFA” in order to sort correctly.
 3. I wouldn’t create redundant entries for home and office
but instead, like the Contacts program that comes with the
N800, enable the creation of new fields that would
include, for example, “Home”, “FAX”, Mobile”, “Work”, etc.
Thus, the user could create, if needed, two mobile number
fields, or two business fields, etc.
 4. The address field should be multiple address fields, e.g.
street1, street2, city/province, state, zip, country, etc.
The “mail” and “web” fields would be new fields as
required as in the Contacts program that comes with the N800.
 5. Names of people and names of business, once sorted, should
appear in proper order, e.g. “Bank of America” would
follow “Frank Arnold.”
   3. gpe-calendar - This program kept causing problems with IT OS 07
  so I had to remove it; however, it looked like it would do the job.
   4. gpe-syncd – I have not been able to install this so don’t know
  how well it will sync the above programs with data on my computer.

Regards,

Nick Shaw



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Hello

Are there tips or tools to synchronize gpe-contacts and osso-addressbook ? :
With the default email application, I can't use gpe contacts

So, we have to manage two contacts databases :
osso-addressbook and GPE contacs.

David
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Re: [maemo-users] Video on N800

2007-01-26 Thread Fabien Penso

On 1/25/07, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been testing video playback on the N800. It's much improved over
the 770.

The native media player can play video encoded at very high rates,
unlike the old video player on the 700.

I've played back 400x240 @ 30 fps mpeg4 encoded at 1000 kbps with Handbreak.


I tried to play a file from Elephant Dreams which I recoded myself :

http://penso.info/tmp/N800/ED_1024.avi

mplayer crashes, and the default multimedia player from N800 can't
play it all, it crashes at different moment. Any idea ?

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Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770

2007-01-26 Thread Wahlau -

HI Sebas,

thanks for your hint... since if not because of your blog, i would
have not tried installing java on the 770 now. btw, mine works too...
together with some tests AWT from Andrew.

many have asked about using java applets.. which i myself have no
idea. it would be nice if you can tell which browser you use, and how
you download google map and stuffs...

i might perhaps write up a little on the whole thing once i have the
time, once. :)

regards,
wahlau

On 26/01/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, this is Sebas. I posted a blog comment where I told how I installed a
JVM in my 770. I'm new in this list, so I cannot comment the previous
thread. But just to tell Wahlau and others that it really works. I can
download Google Maps (not the Mobile version, but the standard PC one),
access my Java-enabled bank account webpage, and others. I think the ports
were developed by a nice guy called Alexander. I think he's developing many
things at the Garage. Anyway thank him very much. The packages are not well
packaged :) So that it is not easy to install them, because the application
manager cannot do it. You must use dpkg from an x-term. If you find it a
difficult task just let me know. Ah, it's important to have installed the
minimo package previously.

Salut.
Sebas.
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[maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.

I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
conversion technique we might be able to share?

Thanks,
JG


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RE: [maemo-users] Video on N800

2007-01-26 Thread Andrea.Ambrosioni
Hi Fabien,

I tried to play a file from Elephant Dreams which I recoded myself :

http://penso.info/tmp/N800/ED_1024.avi

mplayer crashes, and the default multimedia player from N800 
can't play it all, it crashes at different moment. Any idea ?

I've just tried your clip on my N800, and I could play it well using
Media Player, without any crashes. I can't reproduce your problem.

Anyway, please use Maemo bugzilla (https://maemo.org/bugzilla/) to
report any problems you might face with the device.


Kind regards,
Andrea

 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Fabien Penso
Sent: 26 January, 2007 15:29
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Video on N800

On 1/25/07, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been testing video playback on the N800. It's much 
improved over 
 the 770.

 The native media player can play video encoded at very high rates, 
 unlike the old video player on the 700.

 I've played back 400x240 @ 30 fps mpeg4 encoded at 1000 kbps 
with Handbreak.

I tried to play a file from Elephant Dreams which I recoded myself :

http://penso.info/tmp/N800/ED_1024.avi

mplayer crashes, and the default multimedia player from N800 
can't play it all, it crashes at different moment. Any idea ?

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[maemo-users] [maemo-announce] New OS 2006 firmware released

2007-01-26 Thread Ferenc Szekely

Hello,

The latest OS 2006 Edition for Nokia 770 tablets is available at:
http://maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770

The release notes:

   * Improved quality of WLAN connections
   * Wi-Fi certification included

On behalf of the team,
ferenc

ps:
flashing instructions are in the wiki:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux

official Nokia support pages:
http://europe.nokia.com/A4144786
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RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Jakub,

Thank you for the information regarding e-mail.  I'll try it out today.  I
would, however, recommend including an option to 'select all.'  Again, this
just saves the user from dragging across many e-mails.  The option would
work for whatever directory the user is in such as the 'inbox.'

I missed Jonathan's response yesterday but the ability to schedule backups,
like I do with my Palm, would be great.  I use BackupBuddy and backup my
data every time I turned off my Palm. My Palm died which was the driver for
me to look for an alternative.  It is here that one starts to discuss what
should be included with the product and what should be a purchased product.
BackupBuddy is a purchased product and I would be willing, for a full
featured product, to pay for the same or similar features for the Nokia.
For an included product, the program should enable one to backup any files
on the device, whether flash or card.  Backing up of all programs and data
should also be included.  The issue of cost then moves to the depth and
breadth of the features and the ability to, for example, selectively choose
which files to retrieve, performing incremental versus full backups, etc.

Regarding 12- 24-hour time, I recommend, for the next update, you provide
the ability of the user to choose which they desire.  Military personnel in
the US, for example, use a 24-hour clock as do many international
corporations.  Visitors to the US may see the N800 and decide to purchase
one at a local CompUSA and be disappointed that it uses US time.  
Regards,

Nick Shaw
 
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Subject: RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

 The N800 backup program is adequate for simple backups; however, it 
 should include the ability to backup the storage cards and provide 
 some level of compression.  For example, I have two 2GB 
storage cards.  
 On one I do backups.  On the other I have photos, etc.  I should be 
 able to backup one card to the other.  And I should be able 
to select 
 backup of applications, etc.

Agree -- would love to backup apps.  After a reflash, you have 
to install everything again.  It's great to save your prefs 
etc, but getting the apps back would be very nice.  I'd like 
to have the backup be something you could schedule -- on my 
Palm's I used BackupMan and had it run each night at 1am.

This is much more difficult than you think (I was campaining for that
feature too).

 I do a lot of international travel and thus like to use the 24-hour 
 clock, e.g. 1300 for 1:00PM, 1400 for 2:00PM, etc.  This is 
the first 
 OS I've encountered that doesn't allow for 12- or 24-hour 
clocks.  I'd 
 like to see that changed.

no comment.


This is based on your country's way of handling it. US/UK will get you
the AM/PM way, other countries usually use the 24 hour system.

 For an Internet Tablet, e-mail is a major component.  Unless I'm 
 missing something, there is no option to delete all e-mails 
or even to 
 select several e-mails and delete them.  For example, I subscribe to 
 two newsgroups and regularly receive lots of e-mails.  In my 
office I 
 scan the headers to see which are important and delete the 
rest.  I do 
 the same with the N800 except I have to delete each e-mail 
one-by-one.  
 That's tedious and inefficient.

Agree - had that issue previously on the 770 as well.  I 
currently use Gmail in the browser.

Multiple selections are possible and rather easy. Just drag the pen over
several emails in a row. And then you can add more by dragging over
another list of emails. It supports multiple selections ;) Guess a video
with instructions would help here ...

--jakub




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[maemo-users] Re: os2006 frequient vfat badblocks

2007-01-26 Thread Zoran Kolic
 The unmounting took considerable time, around 2 minutes. In the past,
 unmounting it is almost automatically.

Old unix sync should heal that behavior.

 On top of that I got 1 file corrupted (it wasn't the one that hanged
 during transfer). Any idea what could be going on and what steps
 should I take to keep my storage up to speed.

Ext2/3 and ffs are more stable. Remember floppy era?

  Zoran


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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Kahlil Johnson

I would curse the day it gets implemented. I'll rather see that effort
being pushed to better open standard applications like a good OGG
Vorbis / Theora playback. Maybe even LaTex and OpenDocuments.

On 1/26/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.

I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
conversion technique we might be able to share?

Thanks,
JG


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Re: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen
select several e-mails and delete them.  For example, I subscribe to 
two newsgroups and regularly receive lots of e-mails.  In my 
office I 
scan the headers to see which are important and delete the 
rest.  I do 
the same with the N800 except I have to delete each e-mail 
one-by-one.  

That's tedious and inefficient.
Agree - had that issue previously on the 770 as well.  I 
currently use Gmail in the browser.


Multiple selections are possible and rather easy. Just drag the pen over
several emails in a row. And then you can add more by dragging over
another list of emails. It supports multiple selections ;) Guess a video
with instructions would help here ...


It's in the manual, too :) Overview / Device Control / Stylus

't.
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Re: [maemo-users] Re: JAVA for the 770

2007-01-26 Thread Antonio Orlando

Can you please also share a URL ?


I think it's there (google):

http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-easy.html

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RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Karoliina.T.Salminen
Hi,
 
Regarding 12- 24-hour time, I recommend, for the next update, 
you provide the ability of the user to choose which they 
desire.

I was kind of campaigning for that back then it was specified (when we
were making
the 770), however, not everybody did agree with me and it was not me
that was
going to decide it anyway, so it is thus the way it is now - English -
12 hour clock
Finnish - 24 hour clock.

  Military personnel in the US, for example, use a 
24-hour clock as do many international corporations.  Visitors 
to the US may see the N800 and decide to purchase one at a 
local CompUSA and be disappointed that it uses US time.  

Well, I use English language on my N93 and it does the same thing and it
is pretty
odd for me since I would prefer to use English + 24 hour clock and I
have used to
the 24 hour clock. But one can't ever get everything and it is not
possible to please 
everybody always at the same time.

Best Regards,
Karoliina
http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog
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[maemo-users] metalayer-crawler

2007-01-26 Thread william maddler
Hi all,
first of all I have to say that I am *very* impressed by the N800, great
 device!

By the way, I just found metalayer-crawler0 is eating up a lot of CPU, I
have 4 processes, and at least one is eating at least 50% of my CPU, all
the time.

As far as I discovered, metalayer-crawler is in charge of collecting
information about the comings and goings of media files in the system.
The metadata of media files is automatically extracted using
Libmetalayer for other applications to use.

I ended up to completely disable the daemon.

My questions:

1) Has anyone else experienced same problem.
2) Could the absence of the daemon, be a problem for other applications
(i.e. Media Player)?

Thx
William Maddler

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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Jonathan Greene escreveu:
 What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
 books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
 and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
 me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
 current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.
 
 I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
 days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
 conversion technique we might be able to share?

I'm not being very active on the maemo efforts (I'm working on a remote
access system but will take some time to be able to release it) but if
my opinion count to anything, I hope we *never* have this kind of crap
anywhere near.
I understand your need Jonathan but I think DRM stuff should rot in hell
or, at least, remains only attached to proprietary OSs, which is close
enough ;)

[]s

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RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Simon Pickering
 
   Military personnel in the US, for example, use a 24-hour 
 clock as do 
 many international corporations.  Visitors to the US may see 
 the N800 
 and decide to purchase one at a local CompUSA and be 
 disappointed that 
 it uses US time.
 
 Well, I use English language on my N93 and it does the same 
 thing and it is pretty odd for me since I would prefer to use 
 English + 24 hour clock and I have used to the 24 hour clock. 
 But one can't ever get everything and it is not possible to 
 please everybody always at the same time.

I'd vote for the ability to change that as even some English people use 24hr
clocks (when they can) ;)

Speaking of which, would it be that much extra effort to let people change
the individual regional settings (e.g. decimal separator, date format). I
can think of times when one might want to not have this specified (e.g. If I
were an American living in Germany I might always want to use a US style
date, but also a comma as a decimal separator). I'm sure there must be
better illustrations that that one mind you!

Cheers,


Simon

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Re: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 1/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I do a lot of international travel and thus like to use the 24-hour
 clock, e.g. 1300 for 1:00PM, 1400 for 2:00PM, etc.  This is
 the first OS I've encountered that doesn't allow for 12- or 24-hour
 clocks.  I'd like to see that changed.

This is based on your country's way of handling it. US/UK will get you
the AM/PM way, other countries usually use the 24 hour system.


I still can't believe this bug is still here in OS 2007. It was reported
shortly after OS 2005 was released: whoever's drawing up your specs
has made an *enormous* assumption here, which happens to be incorrect.

Apart from the fact it should be user choice, the UK does *not* run on
12 hour clocks. Looking around me I see 24-hour clocks on:

 * my computer
 * my media player
 * my mobile phone
 * my camera
 * my STB
 * my VCR
 * TV listings

I also see them every day at the train station. I probably see more
24-hour clocks than I do 12, and I'm in the UK.

THIS SHOWS A SERIOUS LACK OF I18N/L10N AWARENESS: you can't assume
country = 12/24 hour format. You just can't.

Trust me, and other UK users, this feature is Just Plain Wrong.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: [maemo-users] metalayer-crawler

2007-01-26 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext william maddler wrote:

first of all I have to say that I am *very* impressed by the N800, great
 device!

By the way, I just found metalayer-crawler0 is eating up a lot of CPU, I
have 4 processes, and at least one is eating at least 50% of my CPU, all
the time.


How did you trigger that (what did you do before that)?

Did it eventually stop using the CPU (without rebooting)
i.e. is this a temporary problem?

If you reboot, can you get it again to consume that much CPU
i.e. is the problem (easily) re-producable?

Could you file a bug to Maemo bugzilla about this (with the above info)
and send link to the bug here?



As far as I discovered, metalayer-crawler is in charge of collecting
information about the comings and goings of media files in the system.
The metadata of media files is automatically extracted using
Libmetalayer for other applications to use.

I ended up to completely disable the daemon.

My questions:

1) Has anyone else experienced same problem.
2) Could the absence of the daemon, be a problem for other applications
(i.e. Media Player)?


Not sure, but I think Mediaplayer gets the files in its library
from the crawler database.


- Eero
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Re: [maemo-users] metalayer-crawler

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Flegg

On 1/26/07, william maddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


first of all I have to say that I am *very* impressed by the N800, great
 device!


Ditto.


By the way, I just found metalayer-crawler0 is eating up a lot of CPU, I
have 4 processes, and at least one is eating at least 50% of my CPU, all
the time.


Other people have reported the same issue on the
internettablettalk.com forums, but I've not noticed the issue myself,
yet.

Cheers,

Andrew

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RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Karoliina.T.Salminen
Hi,

I'd vote for the ability to change that as even some English 
people use 24hr clocks (when they can) ;)

Speaking of which, would it be that much extra effort to let 
people change the individual regional settings (e.g. decimal 
separator, date format). I can think of times when one might 
want to not have this specified (e.g. If I were an American 
living in Germany I might always want to use a US style date, 
but also a comma as a decimal separator). I'm sure there must 
be better illustrations that that one mind you!

In general:
Customizability is very nice, but how to implement that in clean simple
way btw? 
Meaning so that it does not increase
too much complexity for those who don't want to customize?

Best Wishes,
Karoliina
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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...

I just want to be able to use my Tablet to read more than web, email
and RSS.  Classic public domain works of literature and the Hacker
Crackdown are not doing it for me.

On 1/26/07, Adilson Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Jonathan Greene escreveu:
 What are the chances we'll be able to get the ability to read DRM'd
 books from either Mobipocket or eReader?  I really miss this ability
 and while I know there is no actual DRM on the device -- and believe
 me I don't really want it either -- I would like to read some more
 current books or journals on my Nokia tablet.

 I've got accounts with both Mobipocket and eReader from my Palm
 days... We can get music from iTunes to MP3... Perhaps there's a
 conversion technique we might be able to share?

I'm not being very active on the maemo efforts (I'm working on a remote
access system but will take some time to be able to release it) but if
my opinion count to anything, I hope we *never* have this kind of crap
anywhere near.
I understand your need Jonathan but I think DRM stuff should rot in hell
or, at least, remains only attached to proprietary OSs, which is close
enough ;)

[]s

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Re: [maemo-users] Video on N800

2007-01-26 Thread Fabien Penso

Andrea,

On 1/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried to play a file from Elephant Dreams which I recoded myself :

http://penso.info/tmp/N800/ED_1024.avi

mplayer crashes, and the default multimedia player from N800
can't play it all, it crashes at different moment. Any idea ?

I've just tried your clip on my N800, and I could play it well using
Media Player, without any crashes. I can't reproduce your problem.


Since I've rebooted the device, works better. But I still have some
missed frames during the play, but that happens only sometimes. It'll
be difficult to reproduce.

I'll use the bugzilla anyway if needed, thanks.
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Re: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

You can do all this on Nokia phones... why not the tablet?

On 1/26/07, Simon Pickering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'd vote for the ability to change that as even some English
 people use
 24hr clocks (when they can) ;)
 
 Speaking of which, would it be that much extra effort to let people
 change the individual regional settings (e.g. decimal
 separator, date
 format). I can think of times when one might want to not have this
 specified (e.g. If I were an American living in Germany I
 might always
 want to use a US style date, but also a comma as a decimal
 separator).
 I'm sure there must be better illustrations that that one mind you!

 In general:
 Customizability is very nice, but how to implement that in
 clean simple way btw?
 Meaning so that it does not increase
 too much complexity for those who don't want to customize?

Agreed, there's certainly no desire to confuse users. Therefore, what about
one of those funny little buttons (like the Advanced one in the connection
settings), which says something like Customise on the regional settings
page (the one that lists date format, decimal separator, etc. - sorry if the
dialog name is wrong, don't have my N800 in front of me atm).

Regards,


Simon





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Re: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Dave Cridland

On Fri Jan 26 15:43:41 2007, Andrew Flegg wrote:
Apart from the fact it should be user choice, the UK does *not* run 
on

12 hour clocks.


To be fair, the UK is spectacularly bizarre in most of these things, 
and hence runs on both.


Computers, and electronics generally, and timetables, tend to use 
24-hour clocks, but people tend to use 12-hour - so we say delightful 
things like The 19:54 train didn't arrive until eight o'clock - and 
even better we won't think anything odd about it. We'll also see 
nothing remotely odd about a TV listing that shows the Ten O'Clock 
News at 22:00. But my children's bedtime is around 7, not 19:00.


I'd prefer to run the 770 in 24 hour, for what it's worth, but it's 
not a missing feature I'm all that up in arms about.


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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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Jonathan Greene escreveu:
 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...
 
 I just want to be able to use my Tablet to read more than web, email
 and RSS.  Classic public domain works of literature and the Hacker
 Crackdown are not doing it for me.

As I said, I perfectly understand your point but I think we should stay
clear of some things and DRM is one of those things.

[]s from Brazil.

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RE: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector

2007-01-26 Thread Karoliina.T.Salminen
Hi,

This film on top of screen is supposed to be removed, it is like you
have
all screens, including monitors when you buy them, and it is not
supposed to be left there.
I kept mine sometime on there until it got scatched.

Best Wishes,
Karoliina
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Jonathan Greene
Sent: 26 January, 2007 02:23
To: Laurent MARTIN
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector

 I've kept my initial protecter on as well and it is actually 
pretty scratched up after less than a week of use.  Seems the 
stylus does quite a number on it when you are scrolling about. 
 There was a thread earlier in  week which listed some 
solutions people have found.


On 1/25/07, Laurent MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

  First of all, I've received my brand new N800 today: the difference 
 with my ~old~ N770 is impressive!

  This may sound as a stupid question but... I've noticed 
that, out of 
 the box, the screen was protected by a screen protector which can be 
 removed using by a sticker (?) at bottom left. Is this 
really a screen 
 protector which is supposed to be used every day, or  simply a 
 protector film to removed at first use? I've kept mine but 
removed the 
 sticker: the N800 is usable like that even if some on-screen 
keys are sometime repeated twice.
 What do other users think? Have you kept the protection too? TIA.

  Laurent, in Nantes (France).

  PS: The new responsiveness is really incredible!
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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:07:52AM -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote:
 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...
 
 I just want to be able to use my Tablet to read more than web, email
 and RSS.  Classic public domain works of literature and the Hacker
 Crackdown are not doing it for me.

http://webscription.net sells non-DRMed books in free formats.  There's
also Baen Free Library where you can get free non-DRMed books (many of
those are first books in a series, so if you get hooked up, you'll buy
the rest).

When you buy DRM, you get what you deserve.

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: os2006 frequient vfat badblocks

2007-01-26 Thread Kahlil Johnson

Is it safe to just use ext3 formated RS-MMC?

I am thinking about switching to RS-MMC since I work on linux both on
desktop/laptop. Will this work out of the box or do I need to modify
fstab?

On 1/26/07, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The unmounting took considerable time, around 2 minutes. In the past,
 unmounting it is almost automatically.

Old unix sync should heal that behavior.

 On top of that I got 1 file corrupted (it wasn't the one that hanged
 during transfer). Any idea what could be going on and what steps
 should I take to keep my storage up to speed.

Ext2/3 and ffs are more stable. Remember floppy era?

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[maemo-users] audio format experiences on n770

2007-01-26 Thread Jorge Salamero Sanz

i've tested 3 audio formats on the n770.

(not checked bitrates, but i think vorbis, mpc are the defaults for the 
encoder and mp3  192kbps)

mp3 = 2-4% cpu usage
vorbis = 18-22% cpu usage
mpc = 94% cpu usage and sounds scratched (i've compiled libmpcdec3 and 
gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad)

so if you want to keep your cpu usage as low as possible, use mp3 :-/
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[maemo-users] Re: os2006 frequent vfat badblocks

2007-01-26 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:00:00 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Thursday 25 January 2007 07:39, Levi Bard wrote:
[...]
 Levi,
 
I'm with you.  Using scp works a lot better than the USB cable.  

The same thing happens to me. I'm using the WLAN to transfer large files 
because with _large_ files, over time it will just die with IO error.
when I keep the transfer size down, it works fine.
Funny enough, opera also has a bug with small debian-binary files, sometimes it 
will not really download them and in the end the installer will choke on a 0 
byte file. Downloading it again helps. Weird.

 The real fun comes if you use the 770/n800 as a middle man between your 
 laptop/desktop  and phone.  Create your own ringtones and backgrounds and 
 load them right up.  

I thought about that, but I'm not much of a phone extra stuff user apart from 
just using it for actually making phone calls ;) (read: too lazy)

 The heck with paying 1.99 for a 15 second capture, or someones bad anime  
 artwork. *grin* 

Well, you have to give the cell phone carriers the credit for having the idea 
of selling ringtones in the first place. Who would have thought... ;)

 For even more fun use fuser

You mean FUSE (Filesystems in Userspace), I think?

 (to the developers, thanks you got it working faster than I could) then if 
 you have openssh installed (windows, mac or Unix, I've tested windows and 
 linux) you can mount a drive/dir of your desktop and use it as if it were a 
 local drive.  Right at the moment I have a 770 that thinks it has 600GB of 
 drive space, and I'm 40 miles away from the parent box. 

Yeah, mounting is a nice concept :)
Too bad GNOME (and KDE) thought inventing their own incompatible layer would be 
fun. sigh.

Actually I looked into adding a nice mount manager to the Nokia 770 file 
manager somewhen (including ability to use fusermount), but I think the source 
code wasn't available back then? I wonder...

cheers,
  Danny

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Re: [maemo-users] metalayer-crawler

2007-01-26 Thread william maddler
Quick upgrade.
If I'm not wrong, the crawler explore the *whole* filesystem, and thus
eating so much CPU (and resources). A quick work around could be to
watch only thos directoryes which are likely to contains media files:

/home/user/MyDocs/.video
/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds
/home/user/MyDocs/.images

invoking with: media-crawler -F -c
/home/user/MyDocs/.video,/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds,/home/user/MyDocs/.images

I added a MEDIAPATH variable to /etc/init.d/metalayer-crawler0 script
and added it to metalayer-crawler invocations in the same script. CPU
consumption is now ok.

I'm going to open a bug this evening from home.

Bye

william maddler wrote:
 Hi all,
 first of all I have to say that I am *very* impressed by the N800, great
  device!
 
 By the way, I just found metalayer-crawler0 is eating up a lot of CPU, I
 have 4 processes, and at least one is eating at least 50% of my CPU, all
 the time.
 
 As far as I discovered, metalayer-crawler is in charge of collecting
 information about the comings and goings of media files in the system.
 The metadata of media files is automatically extracted using
 Libmetalayer for other applications to use.
 
 I ended up to completely disable the daemon.
 
 My questions:
 
 1) Has anyone else experienced same problem.
 2) Could the absence of the daemon, be a problem for other applications
 (i.e. Media Player)?
 
 Thx
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Re: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread dsr
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:58:43PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd vote for the ability to change that as even some English 
 people use 24hr clocks (when they can) ;)
 
 Speaking of which, would it be that much extra effort to let 
 people change the individual regional settings (e.g. decimal 
 separator, date format). I can think of times when one might 
 want to not have this specified (e.g. If I were an American 
 living in Germany I might always want to use a US style date, 
 but also a comma as a decimal separator). I'm sure there must 
 be better illustrations that that one mind you!
 
 In general:
 Customizability is very nice, but how to implement that in clean simple
 way btw? 
 Meaning so that it does not increase
 too much complexity for those who don't want to customize?

Well, the answer for the 12/24 hour clock is simple: there's a
button to tap that switches between AM and PM when you are
setting the time. Extend that to AM/PM/24 and it's in the right
place and not taking up any more space.

For decimal and date separators and formats, one probably needs
a separate control. Nevertheless, it's easy to show it simply:

Format: $1,234.56 2007/12/31

Then a tap on each part brings up the available choices.

-dsr-

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Michael P. Lococo
 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...

I think you've also gotten a lack of useful responses because you're
asking in the wrong forum.  MobiPocket and eReader need to release their
software for the 770, there's nothing that Nokia can do to facilitate
that.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [maemo-users] audio format experiences on n770

2007-01-26 Thread Kahlil Johnson

I have seen that the N770 had problems playing ogg podcasts, I wonder
if there is a way to optimize the apps or the codecs.

On 1/26/07, Jorge Salamero Sanz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


i've tested 3 audio formats on the n770.

(not checked bitrates, but i think vorbis, mpc are the defaults for the
encoder and mp3  192kbps)

mp3 = 2-4% cpu usage
vorbis = 18-22% cpu usage
mpc = 94% cpu usage and sounds scratched (i've compiled libmpcdec3 and
gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad)

so if you want to keep your cpu usage as low as possible, use mp3 :-/
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Re: [maemo-users] audio format experiences on n770

2007-01-26 Thread Brad Midgley
Kahlil

I suspect only the mp3 decoding is done in the dsp.

Brad

 I have seen that the N770 had problems playing ogg podcasts, I wonder
 if there is a way to optimize the apps or the codecs.
 
 On 1/26/07, Jorge Salamero Sanz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i've tested 3 audio formats on the n770.

 (not checked bitrates, but i think vorbis, mpc are the defaults for the
 encoder and mp3  192kbps)

 mp3 = 2-4% cpu usage
 vorbis = 18-22% cpu usage
 mpc = 94% cpu usage and sounds scratched (i've compiled libmpcdec3 and
 gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad)

 so if you want to keep your cpu usage as low as possible, use mp3 :-/
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Re: [maemo-users] audio format experiences on n770

2007-01-26 Thread klaus
On 1/26/2007 Jorge Salamero Sanz wrote:
 mp3 = 2-4% cpu usage
 vorbis = 18-22% cpu usage
 mpc = 94% cpu usage and sounds scratched (i've compiled libmpcdec3 and 
 gstreamer-0.10-plugins-bad)

Hm... correct me if I am wrong (don't know exactly), but maybe its because
mp3 main decoding threat is running on the DSP side of the OMAP cpu and
vorbis  mpc are running on the ARM side, so of course they need a lot of 
ARM cpu power.
Or ist there already a DSP'd version of the ogg codec available?

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

Fair enough - was just wondering what others were doing.  Seems
there's an app that you can run on Windows which will let you actually
strip the DRM from .pdb files, and given that you have to enter your
username and credit card in the command to strip, it seems like it's
on the good side of the fair use argument... As usual with this stuff
users just want to use the content how they want -- suppose that's why
we are all in violent agreement about not using DRM to begin with.

I don't have much hope that eReader or Mobipocket will come through
for us until we can show there's a substantial market - or offer
services to port the client.

Assume people have used ManyBooks.net for FBReader?  What's the best
format for our friend the tablet -- best to read from I as I know
there are quite a few that actually work.

Thanks,
JG



On 1/26/07, Michael P. Lococo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Clearly I've touched a nerve here - I hate DRM as well guys...

I think you've also gotten a lack of useful responses because you're
asking in the wrong forum.  MobiPocket and eReader need to release their
software for the 770, there's nothing that Nokia can do to facilitate
that.

Thanks,
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Re: [maemo-users] Google Calendar to GPE-Calendar.. the easy way

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Greene

I unfortunately have no idea ... suggest filing a bug report here --
http://bugzilla.handhelds.org/

On 1/26/07, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jonathan Greene wrote:
 
http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/01/25/getting-google-calendar-on-your-nokia-tablet


 I've filed bug reports for the issues I've noted in my post and hope
 development gets going as more of us clearly want both a stronger PIM
 option...



Hello
I tried this :
The google calendar appear in GPE Calendar.
But after 3 second, the GPE Calendar closes itself ?

So each time I launch GPE Calendar, the application closed itself after
3 seconds.
I have delete the file : /home/user/.gpe/calendar

David.
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Re: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Klein
N800 display seems to suffer from scratch syndrome something
fierce...anybody else seen this?

I have 4yr old ipaq that is less fubar than my n800 after only a couple
of weeks of use...no I don't put it in my pocket with keys, etc.

It is always in its sleeve when I'm not holding itscratchy stylus
perhaps? Display surface seems extremely soft.

My display looks like hell and I'm a little miffed...at least PepperPad3
has more hard-core screen that seems more scratch resistant.


mike

Laurent MARTIN wrote:
 Thank you very much for your answer: the *real* screen protector for
 my brand new N800 has just arrived by postmail, so I'm going to
 replace the stock film protection soon!
 Laurent.

 On 26 janv. 07, at 17:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 This film on top of screen is supposed to be removed, it is like you
 have
 all screens, including monitors when you buy them, and it is not
 supposed to be left there.
 I kept mine sometime on there until it got scatched.

 Best Wishes,
 Karoliina

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RE: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread Peter Bart
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 17:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  
 Regarding 12- 24-hour time, I recommend, for the next update, 
 you provide the ability of the user to choose which they 
 desire.
 
 I was kind of campaigning for that back then it was specified (when we
 were making
 the 770), however, not everybody did agree with me and it was not me
 that was
 going to decide it anyway, so it is thus the way it is now - English -
 12 hour clock
 Finnish - 24 hour clock.

As someone living in America please let me put my 2 cents in for the 24
clock!
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[maemo-users] editor

2007-01-26 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:40:20 +0100, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
 Programing directly on the device is interresting. Maybe porting TCC 
 Tiny C Compiler http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/tcc/ is appropriate. I 
 use it all the time to do small applications on my desktop computer. 
 It's blazing fast and allow to use C file as you use script. It is not 
 fully compatible with GCC, but far enough for everyday use to me.

Sounds nice...

 But I must say that the first thing that prevent to use the device to do 
 programm is the lack of a good editor adatpted to it. 

Slightly off-topic and maybe? a little bit flamebait, but I have never found an 
editor adapted for programming that wasn't a pain to use in UN*X.

I'd like to know one... (certainly of all the editors there are for UN*X, there 
should be one that fits requirement below?)

Of the top of my head it should be able to do:
- Unicode (including double-width characters)
- non-variable width fonts (having a variable width font in any kind of entry 
field is an accident waiting to happen)
- undo
- virtual word wrapping (and I do mean _words_, not wrapping individual 
characters, like emacs does the latter)
- If the new line after virtual word wrapping is still too long, then insert a 
virtual linebreak inside it anyway, until it's fitting into the width of the 
client area
- syntax highlighting (a simple finite state machine dumpfile is enough, ala 
joe's own editor)
- search / replace without 36 random reserved characters (while regexps are 
nice, being _forced_ to use them is a pain, especially when searching  
replacing in a text that is itself a regexp ;))
- command line option to jump to line/column number on load
- command line option for file format (implying config for syntax highlighter, 
argv[] of tools for it (intellisense, indexer, debugger, ...), ...)
- interface for filling extra columns like:
  - line number
  - breakpoint (modifyable)
  - misc user-defined flag
  - line currently debugging on
  - (subversion) blame annotation
  - (subversion) line last changed on date
  - line the user is currently on
  - line the other people viewing this file are currently on
  - and so on...
- folding of blocks
- virtual concatenation of files (I'd really prefer the _filesystem_ to support 
that, but...)
- every time someone writes . and then pauses for 1 second, call external 
tool (with all the text on stdin?)  (Intellisense :))
- every time I press the Newline key in order to create a new line, repeat the 
leading whitespace from the line I came from on the new line (and I mean, 
exactly, not expanding tabs, not grouping spaces into tabs, not trying to 
backstab me, ...)
- keep the file open while editing, so it shows up inside /proc/pid/fd/ (or 
lsof). No really, nobody's gonna die of that one file descriptor.
- double-clicking on a word selects it. A word is delimited by one of  )}]. 
If one really must make it more complex, ignore (only) trailing punctuation in 
that selection.

User interface:
- no (control-..., whatever) key combinations for essential stuff
- no mode-change keys (that means you, vi) (having to change mode 5 times or 
more in 1 minute is too much) (that does include not having stuck keys like 
Ctrl-K)
- have function keys that actually do something (and I do mean like Save, 
Search, ... and not inserting gibberish into the text ;))
- being able to move whereever I want on a line, also within the empty (*cough* 
non-existant) parts to the right
- Ctrl+Click on a word - call a tool, passing the word, file and position
- don't destroy the text buffer when the window is resized (some versions of 
emacs did that)

Nice to have but not essential:
- autosave
- backup files (I'd really prefer the _filesystem_ to support that, but...)
- session saving support (remote saving, like the desktop saying save all now 
to all applications so that some make process uses the new version of the 
edited files)
- usable without X/framebuffer/graphics terminal

_Not_ to have:
- tabs - the window manager, not the application, manages windows
- multiple buffers - the process manager, not the application, manages 
processes
- single instance optimization - would mess up automated tool firing up an 
editor to confirm something (that means you, gedit)
- integrated object browser, cross referencer, spell checker, project manager, 
build system, word counter, program to calculate the answer to the life, 
universe and everything ...  (can just do that using another tool :))

 The Note application is unusable to do code and editor in xterm are very 
 annoying because there heavly use CTRL ou ESC that are not easly to do on the 
 device.

Or make any sense to do on a desktop PC, for that matter ;)

Sorry for the rant... :)

No really, if anyone knew an editor that fulfills most of these criteria, I'd 
like to hear about it.
(then I could stop writing the one based to GtkTreeView I started but never 
seem to finish)

Hm, maybe with a little evil hacking I 

Re: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Klein
I've never needed screen protection for my stylus5yrs on my ipaq and
display is just as good as my N800 after 2 weeks of usage.

I guess I'll have to examine my stylus with a microscope or magnifying
glass.

CompUSA guy threw in free 1yr replacement policy...so I'll guess I'll be
activating it shortly.



Laurent MARTIN wrote:
 N800 display seems to suffer from scratch syndrome something
 fierce...anybody else seen this?
 Are you saying that you're not using any screen protection at all? You
 shoud! I've one on all of my devices: N800, N770, Treo, digital
 camera, ... It helps, trust me, it helps!
 --Laurent, Nantes - France
 Apple PowerBook 12
 Treo 650 (unlocked GSM)
 Nokia Interner Table N800

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Re: [maemo-users] Premium eBooks?

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Lococo

Jonathan,


Fair enough - was just wondering what others were doing.


I think the consensus is that we're getting content from any one of the 
many sources that do not encumber it with copy protection.  Obviously 
this does limit choice of content, but the alternative is having limited 
choice of reading platforms (or finding unsupported ways of stripping 
the DRM, as you noted in your last message).


My favorite content sources are:
http://gutenberg.org/
http://podiobooks.com/ (audio books instead of text, contemporary work)
http://librivox.org/ (audio books, classic out of copyright work)
http://archive.org/ (all kinds of stuff, including classic movies)

I would also reinforce the importance of asking for 770 ports from your 
favorite eBook stores.  I think the 770 is the best reading device on 
the market, and I find it odd that it hasn't gotten more support from 
the commercial eBook folks.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [maemo-users] dependencies in maemopad+

2007-01-26 Thread Kemal Hadimli

Hello,

Released 0.23a, installs OK :)

I also removed the dependencies-it2006 group, people will have to get
sqlite3 from somewhere else (ie. the eko.one.pl repo) for the time
being. Also maemopad+ is now in scirocco extras repository.

Also posted simple installation instructions too:
https://garage.maemo.org/docman/view.php/30/105/install.txt

Best regards,
Kemal

On 12/4/06, Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There seems to be no problem when forcing maempad+ (i.e. it runs well):


Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg --force-depends -i maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb
(Reading database ... 11858 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace maemopadplus 0.23 (using maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement maemopadplus ...
dpkg: maemopadplus: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you
request:
 maemopadplus depends on sqlite (= 3.0); however:
  Package sqlite is not installed.
Setting up maemopadplus (0.23) ...
Cache file created successfully.

Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1#

Thanks,
Rainer


Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2006 17:59 schrieb Rainer Dorsch:
 Kemal,

 I tried to install maemopad+ on a scirocco system. I am wondering now, if
 the dependency on sqlite is wrong and should be sqlite3 instead.

 Thanks,
 Rainer

 Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg -i maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb
 Selecting previously deselected package maemopadplus.
 (Reading database ... 11836 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking maemopadplus (from maemopadplus_0.23_armel.deb) ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of maemopadplus:
  maemopadplus depends on sqlite (= 3.0); however:
   Package sqlite is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing maemopadplus (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  maemopadplus
 Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1# dpkg -s sqlite3
 Package: sqlite3
 Status: install ok installed
 Priority: optional
 Section: user/misc
 Installed-Size: 28
 Maintainer: Cezary Jackiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Architecture: armel
 Version: 3.3.8-1
 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.5-1), libreadline4 (= 4.3-1), libsqlite3-0 (=
 3.3.8) Suggests: sqlite3-doc
 Description: A command line interface for SQLite 3
  SQLite is a C library that implements an SQL database engine.
  Programs that link with the SQLite library can have SQL database
  access without running a separate RDBMS process.
 Nokia770-39:/media/mmc1#

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Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770

2007-01-26 Thread sebastian maemo

Hi Wahlau:

minimo package is necessary only for a matter of dependencies. That is,
you need the libraries that come with minimo, but you are going to use the
default browser pre-installed in your 770. I don't usually run minimo
browser.

So you run your pre-installed browser (that is an Opera version), and go to
the maps.google.com webpage. You don't need to install anything. If you
wait a few seconds for the webpage to download, you'll see the typical map
view and even satellite or hybrid view if you like. I've made
some pictures and want to upload, but don't know how. I've uploaded it to a
Yahoo Group, but I don't like it because you must be member of the group to
look at the pictures. Anybody could help me to upload these pics to a
blogger? The Yahoo address is the following:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/sebastian_nokia770/

2007/1/26, Wahlau - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


HI Sebas,

thanks for your hint... since if not because of your blog, i would
have not tried installing java on the 770 now. btw, mine works too...
together with some tests AWT from Andrew.

many have asked about using java applets.. which i myself have no
idea. it would be nice if you can tell which browser you use, and how
you download google map and stuffs...

i might perhaps write up a little on the whole thing once i have the
time, once. :)

regards,
wahlau

On 26/01/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, this is Sebas. I posted a blog comment where I told how I installed
a
 JVM in my 770. I'm new in this list, so I cannot comment the previous
 thread. But just to tell Wahlau and others that it really works. I can
 download Google Maps (not the Mobile version, but the standard PC one),
 access my Java-enabled bank account webpage, and others. I think the
ports
 were developed by a nice guy called Alexander. I think he's developing
many
 things at the Garage. Anyway thank him very much. The packages are not
well
 packaged :) So that it is not easy to install them, because the
application
 manager cannot do it. You must use dpkg from an x-term. If you find it a
 difficult task just let me know. Ah, it's important to have installed
the
 minimo package previously.

 Salut.
 Sebas.
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Re: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector

2007-01-26 Thread Jonathan Matthews-Levine

On 1/26/07, Mike Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've never needed screen protection for my stylus5yrs on my ipaq and
display is just as good as my N800 after 2 weeks of usage.

I guess I'll have to examine my stylus with a microscope or magnifying
glass.

CompUSA guy threw in free 1yr replacement policy...so I'll guess I'll be
activating it shortly.


Mike -

Did you remove the initial protector that it came shipped with?  Or
are you perhaps still using it?

I've noticed lots of scratches (that are most visible with a dark
screen) since receiving and using it today that leads me to believe
that - like Karoliina said - it's *only* protection against shipping
damage, and is not meant to be used long term.  I've had a (badly cut)
protector on the 770 since buying it in Dec '05 and wouldn't /dream/
of not having /something/ covering that lovely screen ... :-)

All the best,
Jonathan
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Re: [maemo-users] Video on N800

2007-01-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 26 January 2007 05:29, Fabien Penso wrote:
 On 1/25/07, Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been testing video playback on the N800. It's much improved over
  the 770.
 
  The native media player can play video encoded at very high rates,
  unlike the old video player on the 700.
 
  I've played back 400x240 @ 30 fps mpeg4 encoded at 1000 kbps with
  Handbreak.

 I tried to play a file from Elephant Dreams which I recoded myself :

 http://penso.info/tmp/N800/ED_1024.avi

 mplayer crashes, and the default multimedia player from N800 can't
 play it all, it crashes at different moment. Any idea ?

Just to compare I tried it on mplayer on my laptop (Debian Linux) as well as 
aviplayer ... both just sat there blank staring at me.  Could be an error in 
the encoding perhaps?

James

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Re: [maemo-users] Video on N800

2007-01-26 Thread Fabien Penso

 http://penso.info/tmp/N800/ED_1024.avi

 mplayer crashes, and the default multimedia player from N800 can't
 play it all, it crashes at different moment. Any idea ?

Just to compare I tried it on mplayer on my laptop (Debian Linux) as well as
aviplayer ... both just sat there blank staring at me.  Could be an error in
the encoding perhaps?


Well I tried on my mac  windows, and I see now problem at all. It
does play on the N800, it misses frames sometimes, and mplayer doesn't
play it well at all (the multimedia player included by nokia does the
job ok).

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Re: [maemo-users] Some Thoughts Regarding IT OS 2007 and the N800

2007-01-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 26 January 2007 07:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Regarding 12- 24-hour time, I recommend, for the next update,
 you provide the ability of the user to choose which they
 desire.

 I was kind of campaigning for that back then it was specified (when we
 were making
 the 770), however, not everybody did agree with me and it was not me
 that was
 going to decide it anyway, so it is thus the way it is now - English -
 12 hour clock
 Finnish - 24 hour clock.

   Military personnel in the US, for example, use a
 24-hour clock as do many international corporations.  Visitors
 to the US may see the N800 and decide to purchase one at a
 local CompUSA and be disappointed that it uses US time.

 Well, I use English language on my N93 and it does the same thing and it
 is pretty
 odd for me since I would prefer to use English + 24 hour clock and I
 have used to
 the 24 hour clock. But one can't ever get everything and it is not
 possible to please
 everybody always at the same time.


Karoliina,

   And to make it more fun to see a 24 hour clock in English install panel 
clock.  

James
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[maemo-users] Usage

2007-01-26 Thread James Sparenberg
All,

   Just so I can see how my usage patterns and view of the 770/n800 mesh with 
the community I'd be curious to know if I'm alone in the way I treat my noki.  
It is to me a palmtop not a PDA.  I use it to increase my mobility and 
decrease my load, carrying it instead of a laptop.  

   To me my 770 is a laptop replacement.  I'm in charge of multiple data 
centers and it's a joy not having to lug a laptop out to dinner etc, in case 
I get an emergency call.  

  However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm) or 
as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone).  Forgive me, I'm 
accustomed to thinking in use cases I guess.   For me the #1 app is 
osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping.  

James
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Re: [maemo-users] Usage

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Lococo

To me my 770 is a laptop replacement.

...
However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm) or 
as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone).


It's good for all those things, but there are more people that listen to 
music or use a calendar than that run multiple data centers ;).  I use 
mine for all of the above, and when asked what the device is I tell them 
it's like an ultralight laptop, among other things.



For me the #1 app is osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping.


Miss it no more... there is a busybox replacement with ping integrated, 
and an fping package listed on the wiki Application Catalog.  Have you 
tried them?


http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [maemo-users] N800 screen protector

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Klein
Jonathan Matthews-Levine wrote:
 On 1/26/07, Mike Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've never needed screen protection for my stylus5yrs on my ipaq and
 display is just as good as my N800 after 2 weeks of usage.

 I guess I'll have to examine my stylus with a microscope or magnifying
 glass.

 CompUSA guy threw in free 1yr replacement policy...so I'll guess I'll be
 activating it shortly.

 Mike -

 Did you remove the initial protector that it came shipped with?  Or
 are you perhaps still using it?

 I've noticed lots of scratches (that are most visible with a dark
 screen) since receiving and using it today that leads me to believe
 that - like Karoliina said - it's *only* protection against shipping
 damage, and is not meant to be used long term.  I've had a (badly cut)
 protector on the 770 since buying it in Dec '05 and wouldn't /dream/
 of not having /something/ covering that lovely screen ... :-)

 All the best,
 Jonathan
Yes initial protection was removed. N800 screen feels like pudding it's
so soft though.

The thing is...I don't need protection on my other devices...N800
display seems different.
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Re: [maemo-users] Usage

2007-01-26 Thread Mike Klein
Why do you associate PDA w/necessarily having or not a PIM?

PDA (to me) means same thing as palmtop. I look at N800 as
PDA/palmtop...not UMPC/tablet.

My iPAQ 4700 pda can do everything the N800 can do and more (at this
point anyways). ssh, rdesktop, vnc, etc. I sure don't consider it a
laptop replacement though...neither do I the N800.

There are devices for your wrist (wach), for your hand (pocket pc, pda,
palmtop) and larger for your hand (umpc, tablet pc).



mike

James Sparenberg wrote:
 All,

Just so I can see how my usage patterns and view of the 770/n800 mesh with 
 the community I'd be curious to know if I'm alone in the way I treat my noki. 
  
 It is to me a palmtop not a PDA.  I use it to increase my mobility and 
 decrease my load, carrying it instead of a laptop.  

To me my 770 is a laptop replacement.  I'm in charge of multiple data 
 centers and it's a joy not having to lug a laptop out to dinner etc, in case 
 I get an emergency call.  

   However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm) or 
 as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone).  Forgive me, I'm 
 accustomed to thinking in use cases I guess.   For me the #1 app is 
 osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping.  

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Re: [maemo-users] JAVA for the 770

2007-01-26 Thread Larry Battraw

On 1/26/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Wahlau:


(snip)


So you run your pre-installed browser (that is an Opera version), and go to
the maps.google.com webpage. You don't need to install anything. If you wait
a few seconds for the webpage to download, you'll see the typical map view
and even satellite or hybrid view if you like.


I think we may have a misunderstanding here.  Google Maps is based on
JavaScript --no relation to Java-- and works without a JVM.  I have a
770 that has been freshly flashed which shows Google Maps just fine.

Larry
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Re: [maemo-users] Usage

2007-01-26 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 26 January 2007 17:29, Mike Lococo wrote:
  To me my 770 is a laptop replacement.

 ...

  However I get the feeling most here see it as either a PDA (like a palm)
  or as a multimedia device (ala windows mobile or an iPhone).

 It's good for all those things, but there are more people that listen to
 music or use a calendar than that run multiple data centers ;).  I use
 mine for all of the above, and when asked what the device is I tell them
 it's like an ultralight laptop, among other things.

  For me the #1 app is osso-xterm and what I miss the most is ping.

 Miss it no more... there is a busybox replacement with ping integrated,
 and an fping package listed on the wiki Application Catalog.  Have you
 tried them?

 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

yes and filed a bug against it, for some reason if I install it I loose 
graphics in the themes (files are there but I'got a white border to the left 
and no graphics on keyboards popups etc.  Not sure but it fights with either 
fuse or pptp enabled kernel.  

James


 Thanks,
 Mike
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[maemo-users] Re: os2006 frequent vfat badblocks

2007-01-26 Thread Zoran Kolic
 Is it safe to just use ext3 formated RS-MMC?

I use ext2. All is done from 770, no need for outer box.

 I am thinking about switching to RS-MMC since I work on linux both on
 desktop/laptop. Will this work out of the box or do I need to modify
 fstab?

For sure. You need another mount point. Go to maemowiki.
All steps are described to do that. And... It is pure fun
to find all man pages and ask the list for advice.
Best regards

   Zoran


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