Re: Flash player conflict stopping the feature update

2008-10-01 Thread Matt Emson
Ryan Abel wrote:
 On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Matt Emson wrote:

 That someone being timeless. :)

Someone being a simple way not to have to go search for the 
culprit/genius/kind individual that created the package, obviously ;-)



 Unfortunately, it seems this package is stopping installation of the
 latest feature upgrade available via system update..

 Just uninstall the package from Application manager and all will be well.

As indicated, I was going to try that, but I wanted to do it at home as 
work WIFI is spotty at best. I can confirm promlems fixed with removal.

M

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Re: Updating n810w (rx-48) to latest firmware

2008-10-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 22:00 -0700 schrieb Pete Black:
 I have n810 wimax (rx-48) where I need to upgrade from maemo 0.2008.14-9
 to the latest version (4.2008.36-5). However, I can't seem to get my
 hands on a frimware binary. I've tried both
 http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php and the Windows software
 update tool from Nokia
 (Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard.exe) without any luck.
 
 Has anyone had the same problem?

0.2008.14-9? Where did you get that version (and the device) from?
Your description is vague - What *exactly* was the issue with flashing
it? Any error messages?

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Re: Offline mode from the command-line?

2008-10-01 Thread Tony Green
Thanks to all who replied.

Faheem's 
/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --type=signal /com/nokia/mce/signal
com.nokia.mce.signal.sig_device_mode_ind string:[normal|flight]
works a treat.

Had to live with a bit of a hack to get it to wake up again in the morning 
until I can find some documentation for alarmtool (though it seems the alarm's 
not that reliable anyway) but my battery was a lot fuller this morning ;-)

In case it's of help to anybody, this is the script that I'm now running. I 
start it via SSH from my server at the end of the backup. The downside is that 
the SSH session stays up until it restarts, but it's less of an overhead than 
staying connected (I've backgrounding the script, but SSH seems determined to 
stay.)

# Switch to offline mode
/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --type=signal /com/nokia/mce/signal 
com.nokia.mce.signal.sig_device_mode_ind string:flight

# wait 8 1/2 hours so the device will reconnect in time for when I'll need it 
online again
sleep 30600

# Switch back to online mode and reconnect to the default access point
/usr/bin/dbus-send --system --type=signal /com/nokia/mce/signal 
com.nokia.mce.signal.sig_device_mode_ind string:normal

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Re: WiFi borked after update

2008-10-01 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 23:37 -0600, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 Andre Klapper wrote:
  This might be related to the problem:
  https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3749

 thanks. that was the exact problem. Poking around with autoconnection on 
 my N800 made it to connect to nearest known AP, from there I was able to 
 continue in terminal. ugh. glad I didn't have to reflash.

Yes same for me (I didn't put it in the report but I removed all non
diablo repo from my source list before apt-get). After the manual
command line cleanup everything seems back to normal (and reboot works
fine). Only thing is that osso-software-version-rx44 is no longer
installed for some reason.

Laurent


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Re: Insufficient Space to upgrade

2008-10-01 Thread Eero Tamminen

Hi,

ext Scott wrote:
Along these same lines, is there a file browser that will see the  
entire disk including the hidden folders so I can see where the  
files are piling up and which temp ones can be deleted? Or is there a  
utility for the n810 similar to TreeSize (windoze program) that will  
show you all the folders and how much space each folder (recursive)  
takes up?


I use something like the attached scripts from command line on
the device:
du-fs-contents.sh -- shows sizes of directory contents, dir at the time
package-sizes.sh -- list sizes of all packages according to pkg database

NOTE: the package (database) Installed-Size information isn't
trustworthy, the package can take a lot less disk space:
* on install certain documentation directories are removed from
  the packages (with docpurge) and amount of that can be quite large
* The file system is also LZO compressed, so files may take
  significantly less space than they appear. For example:
# cd /home/user/MyDocs/.documents
# lzop osso_software_copyright.pdf
# ls -s osso_software_copyright.pdf*
1359 osso_software_copyright.pdf
334  osso_software_copyright.pdf.lzo

I.e. the PDF file actually takes only few hundred KB from the file
system instead of over MB.  Some other files like jpeg, png, mp3, wma
etc ones are in an already compressed format.


Debian localepurge might also be useful, but I don't know whether
it can be easily used on our tablets:
http://packages.debian.org/etch/localepurge


- Eero


du-fs-contents.sh
Description: application/shellscript


package-sizes.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: Updating n810w (rx-48) to latest firmware

2008-10-01 Thread Matt Emson
Mark wrote:
 If I understand correctly, you're expecting the update tools to
 automatically pick up the latest OS image and install it. 

He is using Windows, so, yeah - the tool should be picking up the latest 
firmware automatically. The issue is more likely related to what Ryan 
was saying about non release hardware.

The Windows tool is actually quite nice. It does have one flaw - it 
makes you connect the tablet whilst it downloads the firmware, which is 
not a good idea IMO. It should allow the firmware to be downloaded first 
- though I'm guessing it's using the tablet to get the MAC address info, 
so maybe it's just a design flaw mascaraing as a questionable practice 
:-) Should probably give the option to manually enter the MAC address, 
or at least, remember the last one, so that the painful wait on battery 
is lessened. (NOTICE: I use a Mac now and have only used the Windows 
flasher circa IT OS 2007, so it might have changed by now..)

M

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Re: Updating n810w (rx-48) to latest firmware

2008-10-01 Thread Pete Black
Ryan Abel wrote:
 On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:
 
 Hi,

 Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 22:00 -0700 schrieb Pete Black:
 I have n810 wimax (rx-48) where I need to upgrade from maemo  
 0.2008.14-9
 to the latest version (4.2008.36-5). However, I can't seem to get my
 hands on a frimware binary. I've tried both
 http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php and the Windows software
 update tool from Nokia
 (Nokia_Internet_Tablet_Software_Update_Wizard.exe) without any luck.

 Has anyone had the same problem?
 0.2008.14-9? Where did you get that version (and the device) from?
 
 Internal release for the RX-48. Clearly this is an internal pre- 
 release device.
 
 Your description is vague - What *exactly* was the issue with flashing
 it? Any error messages?
 
 Well, the issue is that there's no public images available for RX-48.  
 The RX-34 and RX-44 images don't have the stuff needed for the RX-48,  
 so getting them running on the RX-48 isn't going to be an option like  
 it was for the RX-34 back in November with the RX-48 image.

Yes, Ryan got it right. It was given given to a friend of mine directly
by Nokia. As someone else mentioned using the RX-34 and RX-44 images is
not an option[1]. In any case, I can't even access them on
tablets-dev.nokia as it says my ID (MAC address) is invalid. And the
windows tool comes up empty, and asks for a binary.

I guess all I need is an updated image, if that is possible with this
device. I've contacted Nokia directly and I'm waiting to hear back.

Thanks,
Pete

[1]http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=229217postcount=209

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Re: Updating n810w (rx-48) to latest firmware

2008-10-01 Thread Pete Black
Matt Emson wrote:
 Mark wrote:
 If I understand correctly, you're expecting the update tools to
 automatically pick up the latest OS image and install it. 
 
 He is using Windows, so, yeah - the tool should be picking up the latest
 firmware automatically. The issue is more likely related to what Ryan
 was saying about non release hardware.

Actually I'm not bound by OS, but no, the tool doesn't seem to find any
update and is asking for a firmware file to be loaded manually. And
getting that has proven to be quite the challenge, as it appears that
this is a pre-release model.

Thanks,
Pete

 The Windows tool is actually quite nice. It does have one flaw - it
 makes you connect the tablet whilst it downloads the firmware, which is
 not a good idea IMO. It should allow the firmware to be downloaded first
 - though I'm guessing it's using the tablet to get the MAC address info,
 so maybe it's just a design flaw mascaraing as a questionable practice
 :-) Should probably give the option to manually enter the MAC address,
 or at least, remember the last one, so that the painful wait on battery
 is lessened. (NOTICE: I use a Mac now and have only used the Windows
 flasher circa IT OS 2007, so it might have changed by now..)
 
 M
 

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Re: WiFi borked after update

2008-10-01 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
Laurent GUERBY wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 23:37 -0600, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
   
 Andre Klapper wrote:
 
 This might be related to the problem:
 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3749
   
   
 thanks. that was the exact problem. Poking around with autoconnection on 
 my N800 made it to connect to nearest known AP, from there I was able to 
 continue in terminal. ugh. glad I didn't have to reflash.
 

 Yes same for me (I didn't put it in the report but I removed all non
 diablo repo from my source list before apt-get). After the manual
 command line cleanup everything seems back to normal (and reboot works
 fine). Only thing is that osso-software-version-rx44 is no longer
 installed for some reason.
just for completeness - I didn't have to remove any repos. just allow 
N800 do automatic connection to available *known* AP, launch browser and 
navigate to any page so that connection is auto-made and then

# apt-get upgrade

resolved issue so that Connection Manager started to function properly 
again. After that Application manager was able to update OS normally 
with no side-effects.


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