[Mailman-Users] installation instructions?
Your Documentation Overview page (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html) says that the Site Administrators Documentation page (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html) contains installation instructions. I couldn't find them. Where are the installation instructions? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Where are the user lists?
I visit http://www.list.org, click on the "Mailing Lists" link, which takes me here: http://www.list.org/lists.html The link to the list "Mailman Users" is a broken link (as well as the archives link). So, where do I get help? As a "first impressions" note, this is kind of sad with Mailman being a web-based MLM and all :) Thanks, Derek -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
Hello.. and thanks for the response. I probably should have mentioned that there is currently no traffic on the server.. no messages are being sent and all queues are empty. Arnar >>> "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28.5.2003 13:46:01 >>> On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:24 am, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > Hello Hi > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the > mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing > shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the > fault? The problem might be the message size. Mailman parses all the messages with python,who is a little unefficient. For example, on my mailman machine, messages of size=300 KB required 300 MB of RAM for processing... and used up (+90%) the CPU (P-III-Xeon-550). In my case, the solution was to reduce the message size, > Arnar Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
Sorry for replying to my own post.. but I just noticed by watching the $prefix/qfiles/out directory.. that files are being created and removed there constantly.. still, nothing in the logs. There is however no ongoing traffic at the moment, this is a private server with few lists. My MTA is Exim 4, since recently. Arnar >>> "Arnar Birgisson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28.5.2003 14:00:35 >>> Hello.. and thanks for the response. I probably should have mentioned that there is currently no traffic on the server.. no messages are being sent and all queues are empty. Arnar >>> "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28.5.2003 13:46:01 >>> On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:24 am, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > Hello Hi > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the > mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing > shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the > fault? The problem might be the message size. Mailman parses all the messages with python,who is a little unefficient. For example, on my mailman machine, messages of size=300 KB required 300 MB of RAM for processing... and used up (+90%) the CPU (P-III-Xeon-550). In my case, the solution was to reduce the message size, > Arnar Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
Hi there.. I verified this.. the MTA seems to be configured correctly. Since switching to Exim recently, mailman lists have worked as they should. As I mentioned earlier, some files are constantly being created in the out queue directory. I wasn't right when I said earlier that there was no traffic, apparently there is one message in the out queue, according to the contents of those files. What makes me unable to diagnose the problem however is that nothing shows up in neither the mailman log files nor exim's log files. Arnar >>> Raquel Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28.5.2003 14:16:00 >>> On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:46:01 -0400 "Josep L. Guallar-Esteve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 28 May 2003 09:24 am, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > > Hello > > Hi > > > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that > > the mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu > > time. Nothing shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas > > of how to locate the fault? > > The problem might be the message size. Mailman parses all the > messages with python,who is a little unefficient. > > For example, on my mailman machine, messages of size=300 KB > required 300 MB of RAM for processing... and used up (+90%) the > CPU (P-III-Xeon-550). > > In my case, the solution was to reduce the message size, > > > Arnar > > > Josep The FAQ that is included in the Mailman download indicates that it could also be a problem with your MTA. Make certain that your MTA isn't set up to do DNS lookups on each address. -- Raquel The life of the individual only has meaning insofar as it aids in making the life of every living thing nobler and more beautiful. Life is sacred, that is to say, it is the supreme value to which all other values are subordinate. --Albert Einstein -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/arnarb%40oddi.is -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Arnar Birgisson wrote: > Sorry for replying to my own post.. but I just noticed by watching the > $prefix/qfiles/out directory.. that files are being created and removed > there constantly.. still, nothing in the logs. There is however no > ongoing traffic at the moment, this is a private server with few lists. > My MTA is Exim 4, since recently. This sounds similar to a problem I'm having. In my case, if I stop qrunner there's a single message in the "out" queue. $prefix/bin/dumpdb shows that it's a malformed confirm message. Like you, nothing shows up in Mailman's nor (in my case) Postfix's logs. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] set up a news server to work with mailman
Has anyone had any success setting up a news server with mailman. I have been told by several people that this has been a bit tricky and did not see anything in the FAQ or a quick search of the archives. I am running mailman 2.0.13 on RH 7.2 and want to run the news server on the same box and have the messages go both to the list as well as the news server and messages posted to the news server posted to the list. I know this is possible as it is an option in the web admin interface just curious if anyone has done this and has any advice? Thanks, Adam -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
Something of the sort yes.. if I stop mailman, there is one message in
the out queue. However, using dumpdb reveals that this is just a normal
message being posted to a list, not a confirm message. dumpdb on the .db
file gives (I have replaced @ with 'at' in email addresses..)
{ 'decorated': 1,
'lang': 'en',
'listname': 'configfiles-commits',
'original_sender': 'arnarb at oddi.is',
'origsubj': '[CVS] cvs-configfiles: poki.oddi.is/etc/mail/ exim',
'received_time': 1054116645.529613,
'recips': ['x at oddi.is', 'arnarb at oddi.is', 'x at oddi.is'],
'tolist': 1,
'version': 3}
and dumpdb on the .pck file gives the message source, complete with
mailman-added headers and all.
The headers are..
>From root at linux.oddi.is Wed May 28 10:10:44 2003
Received: from root by poki.oddi.is with local (Exim 4.20)
id 19KxtM-0004OC-K3 for configfiles-commits at
listar.oddi.is;
Wed, 28 May 2003 10:10:44 +
From: "Ofurpaur"
To: configfiles-commits at listar.oddi.is
User-Agent: OSSP shiela 1.0.4 [CVS 1.11.5+RSE]
Precedence: bulk
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 605
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:10:44 +
Subject: [Configfiles-commits] [CVS] cvs-configfiles:
poki.oddi.is/etc/mail/
exim
X-BeenThere: configfiles-commits at listar.oddi.is
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1
List-Id: Patchar við hvert commit á breytingum á
config-skrám í CVS
List-Unsubscribe:
,
List-Archive:
List-Post:
List-Help:
List-Subscribe:
,
Arnar
>>> Gerald Combs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 28.5.2003 14:34:04 >>>
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Arnar Birgisson wrote:
> Sorry for replying to my own post.. but I just noticed by watching
the
> $prefix/qfiles/out directory.. that files are being created and
removed
> there constantly.. still, nothing in the logs. There is however no
> ongoing traffic at the moment, this is a private server with few
lists.
> My MTA is Exim 4, since recently.
This sounds similar to a problem I'm having. In my case, if I stop
qrunner there's a single message in the "out" queue.
$prefix/bin/dumpdb
shows that it's a malformed confirm message. Like you, nothing shows
up
in Mailman's nor (in my case) Postfix's logs.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 10:16 am, Raquel Rice wrote: > The FAQ that is included in the Mailman download indicates that it > could also be a problem with your MTA. Make certain that your MTA > isn't set up to do DNS lookups on each address. Thank you for your suggestion. I did read the FAQ and checked the MTA configuration, as well as my server settings. I went through this mailing list archives. And I found nothing. With the logs, I was able to trace wich messages were the ones causing problems. And all the problematic messages were +300 KB. I discovered it using top, watch, less and patience. Regards, Josep -- Josep L. Guallar-Esteve Eastern Radiologists, Inc. Systems and Network Administration http://www.easternrad.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:33:05 +, Arnar Birgisson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi there.. I verified this.. the MTA seems to be configured correctly. Since switching to Exim recently, mailman lists have worked as they should. As I mentioned earlier, some files are constantly being created in the out queue directory. I wasn't right when I said earlier that there was no traffic, apparently there is one message in the out queue, according to the contents of those files. What makes me unable to diagnose the problem however is that nothing shows up in neither the mailman log files nor exim's log files. I had a similar problem after a recent MTA reconfiguration. I traced it to the fact that the my MTA was no longer listening on the port that I has specified with the SMTPPORT variable. Once I set SMTPPORT correctly, qrunner CPU utilization returned to normal and list posts were delivered. -Tom -- Tom Eastep\ Shorewall - iptables made easy Shoreline, \ http://www.shorewall.net Washington USA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Problems with hide the sender of a message
When I set to off this option: Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) I can see that the field "from" for emails is name_list@'name_domain' and I don't know how I can remove the semicolons from name_domain -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
Arnar Birgisson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the > mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing > shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the > fault? Is there a massively large (like 20+ Meg) piece of email being processed for the mailman list? Like from root or something? - Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber List?
I've had a few replies about this and need to clarify my question. I know that command exists with shell access. Is there a way for a list owner to do it through their web interface? If not, is there a script that can do it? > -Original Message- > From: Dan Wright US2002021042 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 8:14 PM > To: Phil Iovino > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber List? > > > Yes. > > >From the commandline interface > > ~/mailman/bin/list_members > > On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 12:24, Phil Iovino wrote: > > Is there any way to get a full subscriber list of a given > list without > > having to click on every letter in the alphabet in the admin? -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
On Wed, 28 May 2003 09:15:45 -0700, Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arnar Birgisson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running mailman 2.1 on a linux machine. My problem is that the mailman qrunner daemon constantly consumes 65-95% of cpu time. Nothing shows up in the logs while this goes on. Any ideas of how to locate the fault? Is there a massively large (like 20+ Meg) piece of email being processed for the mailman list? Like from root or something? Arnar informed me in a private email that he has resolved the problem. -Tom -- Tom Eastep\ Shorewall - iptables made easy Shoreline, \ http://www.shorewall.net Washington USA \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
Odd. I have the same problem! (postfix here, and it's fine) -R Arnar Birgisson wrote: Something of the sort yes.. if I stop mailman, there is one message in the out queue. However, using dumpdb reveals that this is just a normal -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Where are the user lists?
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 11:15, Raquel Rice wrote: > You're so smart, figuring that out. Perhaps, you should do my > CC:ing for me, since I can't handle it myself? Raquel, I sent that note to you off-list. I don't appreciate you sending your impertinent reply to the list. I apologized to you off-list if you misinterpreted my note, but that was before I saw that you had included the list in your reply -- I now publicly retract that apology. I have found your previous posts to the list to be informed, helpful, and friendly, which leaves me a bit puzzled about your notes from today. If you wish to discuss this matter further, please do so privately as I'm sure none of the list subscribers cares to see any more details of what is apparently turning into a personal spat over nothing. My apologies to the rest of the list, but since Raquel brought this matter public I felt I should rebut publicly. At this point I don't intend to make any more on-list comments about this matter. Kyle -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Solved: Problem with admin pages in nonstandard http port
On 2003-05-26 14:03:54 -0500 René Berber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >> Is there a configuration option to get mailman working on a specific port? > > I found a solution to my problem, I added the following to mm_config.py : > > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost' > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:81/mailman/' It was almost solved, I also had to change: PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s:81/pipermail/%(listname)s' > This is weird, it never worked with DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost:81', I had to > change the second parameter. Seems like the first parameter gets parsed and > the port is discarded. It looks like a bug in version 2.1.2, the change should be in only one place and the port should not be discarded. -- René Berber -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Migrating from Listproc to mailman
Bossman just gave me the fun job of migrating 430 active lists from Listproc to mailman. It appears I can do this with some creative scripting to chew up the Listproc config files and hand the data off to the newlist, config_list and add_members scripts. Has anyone here had to jump through these hoops before? Any advice, warnings or scripts would be greatly appreciated. -- Michael Alberghini Software Systems Engineer Georgia State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Solved: Problem with admin pages innon standard http port
At 20:06 28/05/2003, René Berber wrote: On 2003-05-26 14:03:54 -0500 René Berber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >> Is there a configuration option to get mailman working on a specific port? > > I found a solution to my problem, I added the following to mm_config.py : > > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost' > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:81/mailman/' It was almost solved, I also had to change: PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s:81/pipermail/%(listname)s' > This is weird, it never worked with DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost:81', I had to > change the second parameter. Seems like the first parameter gets parsed and > the port is discarded. It looks like a bug in version 2.1.2, the change should be in only one place and the port should not be discarded. No it is not a bug, it is a feature. DEFAULT_URL_HOST defines a host, not a host and a port on that host. DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL define partial URLs, parts of which are a scheme, a placeholder for a hostname, optionally a port, and the start of a URI. These two parameters allow flexibility in defining the form of URLs used by Mailman which can be adjusted to match what you choose to assign in the Alias and ScriptAlias related directives in your Apache server's httpd.conf -- René Berber -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Solved: Problem with admin pages innon standard http port
Further to what I said below. Consider the example where I want to allow access to public mail archives (/pipermail/ URLs) via http on port 80 and deliver access to private archives, admin interface and such (/mailman/ URLs) via https on port 443. The present features allow that. Your suggested bug fix doesn't allow that. At 20:06 28/05/2003, René Berber wrote: On 2003-05-26 14:03:54 -0500 René Berber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >> Is there a configuration option to get mailman working on a specific port? > > I found a solution to my problem, I added the following to mm_config.py : > > DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost' > DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:81/mailman/' It was almost solved, I also had to change: PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = 'http://%(hostname)s:81/pipermail/%(listname)s' > This is weird, it never worked with DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'myhost:81', I had to > change the second parameter. Seems like the first parameter gets parsed and > the port is discarded. It looks like a bug in version 2.1.2, the change should be in only one place and the port should not be discarded. No it is not a bug, it is a feature. DEFAULT_URL_HOST defines a host, not a host and a port on that host. DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN and PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL define partial URLs, parts of which are a scheme, a placeholder for a hostname, optionally a port, and the start of a URI. These two parameters allow flexibility in defining the form of URLs used by Mailman which can be adjusted to match what you choose to assign in the Alias and ScriptAlias related directives in your Apache server's httpd.conf -- René Berber -- Richard Barrett http://www.openinfo.co.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Anyone know a good email address managementutility?
Well Mailman gives you the choice of using the Web or the command lines. What other resource were you thinking of using? I've setup some systems (database driven) that sync with each other via the command line every few minutes. It works nice - but will work nicer once the Database connector is in place and working (proposed, but not yet implemented). Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:24, Henry Kim wrote: > I'd like to manage my email addresses outside of > Mailman. I want to keep track of names, remove > duplicates, etc. Anyone know a good cheap or free > utility to manage this? > > = > Henry Kim > (from his travelling email address) > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Basic questions
As far as I know this is not yet implemented, but you might want to ask on the Mailman-dev list. I think someone is playing with that currently. I suspect that the code base for that is a moving target. Good Luck. Remember that patience can be very rewarding. On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:29, Bruno António wrote: > Hi there, > > Maybe this is a strange question or an unanswareble one. > Is there a way (by a module or somthing) of using LDAP with > MAilman, for instances instead of mailman having is own autentication it > would get it from the LDAP tree ??? > > If there is a way, please let me know. Thanks for the help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Weird lock error
At least, it looks weird to me. No lockfiles are present. I once had something like this happen with a corrupt .msg file, but I tried removing all files from the qfiles directory, and the problem recurs with all new mail. This began after moving the lists to a new server, running FreeBSD 4.8 rather than 4.4, and Python 2.2.2. I have multiple Mailman installations so I can handle virtual domains (one installation per domain, allows me to have both "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"); I'm reluctant to upgrade to 2.1.2 until I figure out how the new qrunner scheme is going to work with this setup. Only one of the domains seems to have this problem; the rest are working fine. I've tried reinstalling mailman for this domain, removing lockfiles, removing queue files, removing the archives and creating a new directory, checked permissions on the directories. Any thoughts? Thanks, -Bill May 28 14:24:05 2003 (50423) Delivery exception: May 28 14:24:06 2003 (50423) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 77, in process mlist.Lock() File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1339, in L ock self.__lock.lock(timeout) File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 266, in lo ck raise AlreadyLockedError AlreadyLockedError May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): Traceback (most recent call last): May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ cron/qrunner", line 283, in ? May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): kids = main(lock) May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ cron/qrunner", line 264, in main May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): mlist.Save() May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ Mailman/MailList.py", line 861, in Save May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 253, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): breaklink(pubdir) May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 50, in breaklink May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): os.unlink(link) May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): OSError : [Errno 1] Operation not permitte d: '/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public/ncihc-list' -- William R. Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.seavoy-dickson.org/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Excessive cpu usage
In some cases this problem is caused by the way that the MTA handles local deliveries (where there is a problem with the local user). In postfix for example, the default install has local bounces mis-identified so that Mailman will try, try again to deliver to a bogus local user address. Nothing shows up in the logs, since the MTA indicates that the user is legal, just not currently available. I suggest that you-all look in the MTA log files to see if there are multiple failed deliveries to a local user. Barry has a work-around for this problem that will be included in the next release. Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 13:20, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: > Odd. I have the same problem! (postfix here, and it's fine) > > -R > > Arnar Birgisson wrote: > > >Something of the sort yes.. if I stop mailman, there is one message in > >the out queue. However, using dumpdb reveals that this is just a normal > > > > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] installation instructions?
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 10:19, Raquel Rice wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:56:03 -0700 > George Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Your Documentation Overview page > > (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html) > > says that the Site Administrators Documentation page > > (http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html) > > > > contains installation instructions. I couldn't find them. Where > > are the installation instructions? > > > > Installation instructions are included in the source tarball. > > -- > Raquel For a bit of helping hand here is a web-site with the steps laid out: http://www.linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/mailman.html -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Losing text from Outlook Mails
I'm having the problem with Outlook mail where, if the mail has an attachment, the attachment is archived but the text of the message is not. I am using Mailman v 2.1.2, built from scratch. I have tried applying the patch mentioned here: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-February/026082.html but it didn't seem to make any difference. I downloaded the patch, and applied it with: patch -p0 It patched with no errors other than removing some CR's at the end of the file. No difference, though. Anyone else seeing this? Hugh -- Hugh Caley, Unix Systems Administrator Affymetrix Inc., 510-428-8537 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner looping on confirm message
Make sure you local MTA correctly identifies the local user as bogus. Postfix by default does not correctly identify a user as being missing and instead sends a lesser error indicating that the user is just temporarily unavailable. Modify your MTA to report the bogus user correctly, then Mailman will not loop on that error. A check is being added to the next version so this will not be a problem in the future (though it is not Mailman's error). Jon Carnes On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 17:22, Gerald Combs wrote: > I recently upgraded from Mailman 2.0.8 to 2.1.2. Since then I've run into > a wierd problem where qrunner appears to be looping on a message in the > "out" queue. The message itself is a subscription confirmation from a > nonexistent local user; apparently someone tried to subscribe and forgot > to add the domain to their email address. > > The only fix I've found so far is to manually stop qrunner, remove the > offending .db and .pck file, and restart qrunner. > > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Stripping
I would suspect that your problem lays elsewhere. You might want to capture the messages as they flying about in their queues and try to isolate the process that is munging the messages. Could it be a problem with differing character sets? In any case, I haven't seen this reported as a problem for any version of Mailman version 2.1.x Good Luck On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 09:34, jsmith wrote: > Hello, > > > > I have Mailman 2.1.1 running with sendmail an freebsd 4.7 > > > > I have recently ran into a problem with Mailman stripping all text codes > and making the post nothing but jumbled text without sentences. I do > not have Mailman converting HTML to Plain Text. Although I have tried > that as well with no real success. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Joe > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Weird lock error
Looks like a permissions problem in the archives: /usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public/ncihc-list On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 17:32, William R. Dickson wrote: > At least, it looks weird to me. No lockfiles are present. I once had > something like this happen with a corrupt .msg file, but I tried > removing all files from the qfiles directory, and the problem recurs > with all new mail. > > This began after moving the lists to a new server, running FreeBSD 4.8 > rather than 4.4, and Python 2.2.2. I have multiple Mailman > installations so I can handle virtual domains (one installation per > domain, allows me to have both "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"); I'm reluctant to upgrade to 2.1.2 until I figure > out how the new qrunner scheme is going to work with this setup. Only > one of the domains seems to have this problem; the rest are working > fine. I've tried reinstalling mailman for this domain, removing > lockfiles, removing queue files, removing the archives and creating a > new directory, checked permissions on the directories. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > -Bill > > > May 28 14:24:05 2003 (50423) Delivery exception: > May 28 14:24:06 2003 (50423) Traceback (most recent call last): >File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", > line > 82, in do_pipeline > func(mlist, msg, msgdata) >File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", > line > 77, in process > mlist.Lock() >File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/MailList.py", line > 1339, in L > ock > self.__lock.lock(timeout) >File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/LockFile.py", line > 266, in lo > ck > raise AlreadyLockedError > AlreadyLockedError > > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): Traceback (most recent call last): > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > cron/qrunner", line 283, in ? > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): kids = main(lock) > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > cron/qrunner", line 264, in main > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): mlist.Save() > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > Mailman/MailList.py", line 861, in Save > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 253, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): breaklink(pubdir) > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File > "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ > Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 50, in breaklink > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): os.unlink(link) > May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): OSError : [Errno 1] Operation not > permitte > d: '/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public/ncihc-list' -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] set up a news server to work with mailman
I've done this a couple of times for some ISP's. You have to install a News server like innd. The setup and configuration of innd is beyond the scope of this list. Once it is setup though, you can access the News server just like any other News server on the internet. Good Luck - Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 10:47, Adam Lipson wrote: > Has anyone had any success setting up a news server with mailman. I have been told > by several people that this has been a bit tricky and did not see anything in the > FAQ or a quick search of the archives. I am running mailman 2.0.13 on RH 7.2 and > want to run the news server on the same box and have the messages go both to the > list as well as the news server and messages posted to the news server posted to the > list. > > I know this is possible as it is an option in the web admin interface just curious > if anyone has done this and has any advice? > > Thanks, > Adam > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Jon Carnes wrote: Try installing every rpm from your distribution that has "python" in it. For Mandrake 9.1 I posted a message last month that pointed to all the rpm's that needed to be loaded. Mdk 9.0 probably has similar requirements. FWIW, I had the same problem [mdk 9.1, mailman 2.1.2]. I was not able to get mailmanctl to run using the RPMs listed in that e.mail. I have python installed via RPM, and that is/was my problem. I did not remove the python [2.2.2] RPM, since it would break other stuff, however, i simply compiled python from source, installing it into /usr/local/bin, and then made sure that when I compiled Mailman, I pointed it to the non-RPM install of python 2.2.2. I also changed my mm_cfg.py to make sure it uses the /usr/local/bin version of python. Also note, I was on Mandrake 8.2, with Mailman 2.1.1 [source compile]. When I upgraded to 9.1, I decided to also upgrade to 2.1.2 of mailman. After the initial problem, I removed all traces of mailman 2.1.2 and tried installing 2.1.1 on my 9.1 box, and it failed for the same reason. Compiling python from source was quite simple, as the only thing one needs to make sure of is that it will be built in a /usr/local/* directory structure so that it doesn't break any applications in Mandrake 9.1 that need the python RPM install. HTH, /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
Cool. The difference between our installs seems to be that I installed MDK9.1 from scratch. I keep a separate /home partition to let me do that easily - as I don't like the bugs that sometimes creep in via upgrades. Glad to hear you got it going. Installing Python from source makes plenty of sense. Jon On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:26, Vince LaMonica wrote: > On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Jon Carnes wrote: > > > Try installing every rpm from your distribution that has "python" in > > it. For Mandrake 9.1 I posted a message last month that pointed to all > > the rpm's that needed to be loaded. Mdk 9.0 probably has similar > > requirements. > > FWIW, I had the same problem [mdk 9.1, mailman 2.1.2]. I was not able > to get mailmanctl to run using the RPMs listed in that e.mail. I have > python installed via RPM, and that is/was my problem. I did not remove > the python [2.2.2] RPM, since it would break other stuff, however, i > simply compiled python from source, installing it into /usr/local/bin, > and then made sure that when I compiled Mailman, I pointed it to the > non-RPM install of python 2.2.2. I also changed my mm_cfg.py to make > sure it uses the /usr/local/bin version of python. > > Also note, I was on Mandrake 8.2, with Mailman 2.1.1 [source compile]. > When I upgraded to 9.1, I decided to also upgrade to 2.1.2 of mailman. > After the initial problem, I removed all traces of mailman 2.1.2 and > tried installing 2.1.1 on my 9.1 box, and it failed for the same reason. > > Compiling python from source was quite simple, as the only thing one > needs to make sure of is that it will be built in a /usr/local/* > directory structure so that it doesn't break any applications in > Mandrake 9.1 that need the python RPM install. > > HTH, > > /vjl/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 03:45 PM, Jon Carnes wrote: Cool. The difference between our installs seems to be that I installed MDK9.1 from scratch. I keep a separate /home partition to let me do that easily - as I don't like the bugs that sometimes creep in via upgrades. Actually, I also did a 9.1 from scratch. I had 8.2, backed up all my important data, and did an 'install' of 9.1, repartitioning my drives at the same time. I also avoid doing 'upgrade' installs for the very same reason [oddities creep in]. I had, at one point, also installed Ximian Gnome which gave me even more reason to do a fresh install of 9.1. I did however restore my /home/mailman directory [which is where, on 8.2, i had mailman installed]. I was thinking that all I needed to do was restore my mailman user's crontab entries and all would be ok [since all of mailman's executables are in /home/mailman]. When mailman didn't want to start, that's when I went to go grab 2.1.1 and found that 2.1.2 was available. Grabbed that, installed it [backing up /home/mailman first] a few different times - installed it with my old lists in place, installed it in a /home/mailman2 directory [empty], etc. I read the mailman archives and followed your advice about installing a bunch of python-related RPMs, and even that didn't work. I finally decided to use the source. Glad to hear you got it going. Installing Python from source makes plenty of sense. Yeah, though it took me a while to think of that [doh!] /vjl/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] bin/mailmanctl start
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 20:16, Vince LaMonica wrote: > Actually, I also did a 9.1 from scratch. I had 8.2, backed up all my > important data, and did an 'install' of 9.1, repartitioning my drives > at the same time. I also avoid doing 'upgrade' installs for the very > same reason [oddities creep in]. I had, at one point, also installed > Ximian Gnome which gave me even more reason to do a fresh install of > 9.1. I did however restore my /home/mailman directory [which is where, > on 8.2, i had mailman installed]. I was thinking that all I needed to > do was restore my mailman user's crontab entries and all would be ok > [since all of mailman's executables are in /home/mailman]. When mailman > didn't want to start, that's when I went to go grab 2.1.1 and found > that 2.1.2 was available. Grabbed that, installed it [backing up > /home/mailman first] a few different times - installed it with my old > lists in place, installed it in a /home/mailman2 directory [empty], > etc. I read the mailman archives and followed your advice about > installing a bunch of python-related RPMs, and even that didn't work. I > finally decided to use the source. > Then the only difference is that you used an upgraded Mailman install, and I installed a new one then moved my lists over. I'll bet the problem was in the initialization of the old databases. When upgrading Mailman tries to use the old modules to move the data up to the new formats. The RPM installs must not load all of the older modules called by the earlier Mailman. Curiouser and curiouser... It would be cool to know what modules were missing. Take care - Jon -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] approving / editing messages in the administrativedatabase queue
Hello, This one had got me baffled and after having checked both archives and available documentation I need your help on this. I have, like anybody else I'm sure, from time to time some bounces on the list. These bounces are caused by the usual things like "admin requests", "non-member submission" and "message longer than x Kb". Now my problem is with the last type. I have set a limit of 10 Kb for a single message as some people just hit reply on a digest and do not remove the previous discussions :-( So I get this message in the administrative database awaiting my action. Now the action needed is to "trim"/delete part of the mail. 1) why is it not possible to "edit" the message from within the webpages, because that is where I "look" at them in the first place 2) if the above is not possible, can someone explain me the exact and most efficient (!) method of forwarding + approving the message. I have read that you should include an Approved: header, but I must be doing something wrong. Suppose the following message: "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .net Date: Subject: something ... long text ..." Now if I "approve" this I would send the following in the mail body to the list (after I did the forward) "Approved: "my moderation password" From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .net Date: Subject: something ... trimmed text ..." What happens is that this message is then stripped of almost ALL headers in the body except for Subject and Date and it appears as if I am the author then because the original From: address in the body is gone AND is not "re-used" as it would be under Majordomo :-( :-( Is there a fix for this ? What am I missing ? kind regards, Kenneth. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
