[Mailman-Users] Re: Web interface for users (not admins)?
> First, a bit of admin. Mailman 2 is still in active use, so we've > split out a separate list for Mailman 3: mailman-us...@mailman3.org. > > So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) > > interfaces which integrate with MM3? > > Yes. The HyperKitty archiver, which is part of the Mailman 3 suite[1], > provides an interface for submitting posts as well as reading them, > and has a few social media features (liking posts). Thanks (and to Mark). I was completely unaware of an MM3 list (been far out of the MM loop for years). Also, since the MM2 list is hosted on mail.python.org, when I checked the MM3 lists there, I didn't see the other list. Also, I am a basically 100% email user for these groups to which I referred and don't have a ton of experience with MM3, so, though I was aware of Hyperkitty, its label as an "archiver" gave me no clues as to its added functionality. I'll check it out. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Web interface for users (not admins)?
I've been sort of casually looking for alternatives to Google Groups. I subscribe to and/or help administer a number of groups there. There are a large fraction of us who only ever use the email interface. There are others who would leave (or get out their pitchforks) if the web interface wasn't available. A couple of the groups are fairly large, 3000-4000 subscribers, with archives dating back ten to twenty years. Functionally, Google Groups is fine, but well, it's Google, with all that implies. Most of the time everything is okay, then they make a change to the web interface and all hell breaks loose for a couple weeks or months until Google gets around to fixing the breakage. I've been keeping an eye on Groups.io (subscribed to its group managers list). It's not free, and would cost at least $2000/year for the bigger lists. They have a donation interface to make it easier for list admins to solicit donations to defray costs, but it's not clear that always works as desired. The messages to the group managers list seem to imply GIO has various other warts as well. (It does have a clever #hashtag-in-subject feature for tagging related messages.) So, I got to thinking... Are there any free web user (not admin) interfaces which integrate with MM3? Something which when combined with MM3 could conceivably be an alternative to Google Groups, (the now defunct) Yahoo! Groups, or Groups.io? I poked around the archives a bit and browsed list.org for a few minutes, but turned up nothing. Or rather, all I found related to web interfaces was the admin interface. Thanks, Skip Montanaro -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for a server
> Or google groups? > https://gist.github.com/adamamyl/02a8f44981c8685f9c88 reminds me of > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-October/077893.html Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually already tried that. It was my first thought. I found a Python Google API which looked straightforward to use, but I could never figure out the whole setup/authentication process, and my pleas for assistance on the (I think appropriate) Google help forum, yielded no help, so I gave up. I will take a look at your links. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Looking for a server
I've not hosted a mailman list in a long while. I'm trying to help some folks migrate a list with ten years of archives and no current subscribers just to make the archives indexable by the various search engines. I see the list of hosting services on wiki.list.org, but I'd appreciate actual recommendations (or pointers to prioritized lists), not an unprioritized list. Thanks, Skip Montanaro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] list subscription spammers
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Will Yardley mail...@veggiechinese.net wrote: Mostly curious about the motivation behind this - what do these bots do if / when they are actually able to confirm or get confirmed? They probably try to read the subscription list to get more email addresses. Of course, they can also post spam to the lists. Perhaps both, but I suspect the email addresses are of more value. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] MM doesn't really forward me the full message
Sometimes when I see a bit of held spam, I ask Mailman to forward it to me with the intention of pumping it into SpamBayes for training purposes. (This is on mail.python.org, where we are running 2.1.something.) Unfortunately, it doesn't properly forward the entire message to me. It's one of those crappy forwards like you get from Gmail, where the message body and three or four user-visible headers are embedded in the message: Am I missing something? Is MM the culprit here or Gmail? Is there some way to get MM to forward me the complete message (including all headers) as an attachment? Thx, Skip Montanaro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:47 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: Which means they run spamassassin against outgoing mail but not incoming mail. The mind boggles at the absurdity ... It might be possible to worm around this craziness. You'd need two lists though, one which just forwards to the second. The second should see the SA header. Also, I would use SpamBayes, but that's just me... (Let's try one of these new fangled Unicode Emojis...)☺ Skip Montanaro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Spam-Score: 22.4 and still sent out to the list...
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Adam McGreggor adam-mail...@amyl.org.uk wrote: Drop/Discard/Reject mails at SMTP time, before they hit Mailman? Right, but it seems like James is saying Exim4 isn't doing that. I poked around the MM config for the chic...@python.org mailing list, but for the life of me couldn't find the setting where it holds messages with X-Spam-Score with spam or unsure values. (We use SpamBayes on mail.python.org.) I know it's there somewhere, but I can never find such nuggets. Mail.python.org has a very mature Postfix setup. It's all magic to me (well, except for the SpamBayes part), but I think publishing a small document about the configuration might be worthwhile. Skip Montanaro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Mapping back from pipermail HTML to a specific message in the raw archive?
I have a list of spam HTML messages in pipermail archives. I need to clear out their content (no great problem there), but I also want to clean the corresponding messages in the raw mbox file (zap subject, message body, etc, but leave a placeholder message so future archive regeneration doesn't mess up article numbers). Looking at one of these messages (HTML source), I see nothing like a message id which would allow me to unambiguously identify the corresponding raw message. Does something exist? If not, what heuristics have people developed to perform this mapping? Thanks, Skip Montanaro -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCING: GNU Mailman 3.0
Barry, Congratulations, you mail d(a)emon, you! And all the other responsible d(a)emons. Has it really been 20 years since the NIST workshop? Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Script to condense the review page
I help moderate a couple mailing lists on python.org. The biggest challenge for me is vetting messages which were held for review. The information density in the Mailman review page is pretty low, typically showing only two or three messages per screen. Most of the time all I'm really interested in are the subject and the disposition buttons. I wrote a script to display just that information (and set the default disposition to discard): http://www.musi-cal.com/~skip/python/mmfold.py The subject links to the full review page for that message, so you still have access to all the bells and whistles available should you want them. Ideally something like this will be incorporated into Mailman itself, but for now mmfold.py is a reasonable substitute and should serve as a decent place to experiment with other ideas. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://www.spambayes.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Re: [Mailman-Users] Reason: Message body is too big: 225276 bytes with a limit of 40 KB
Steen Reason: Message body is too big: 225276 bytes with a limit of 40KB Steen Where can I change the limit? Change the value of max_message_size on the general options page. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] error running change_pw
Chris I get the following error when I run change_pw Chris File ./change_pw, line 90 Chris print fd, _(__doc__) Chris^ Chris SyntaxError: invalid syntax Chris I am unsure as to which version of mailman I have installed. I Chris also looked at upgrading to the most recent version, but my Chris Redhat 7.3 system has a python interpeter that is to old. Looks that way. RH 7.3 comes with Python 1.5.2 which definitely doesn't have the print fd gimmick. I believe Mailman needs at least 2.1. Just download the Python 2.3.3 tarfile, extract it and execute ./configure make make install from the toplevel directory of the distribution. (The last step will probably need to be run as root.) I think you'll need to reinstall Mailman after that with something like export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH make clean ./configure make make install I think that will get the #! lines adjusted to refer to /usr/local/bin/python instead of /usr/bin/python. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] confused about -owner/-admin/-bounce addresses
In the 2.0 days, if I wanted to send a message to the various people who administered a list I'd send it to the listname-admin address. Now (2.1), that always seems to generate an Uncaught bounce notification message for the listname-owner address. Just what address is the correct one to use to communicate with all the list admins? What's the difference between the -owner, -admin, and -bounce addressess in 2.1? Where's this documented? The List Manager Documentation page refers to 2.0 docs, and since I'm specifically interested in what I perceive to be 2.0/2.1 differences, I don't think that will help me much. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] who command
Mike That being said, how can a subscriber cause his password to be Mike resent? I had to unsubscribe and then resubscribe myself to find Mike my missing (subscriber) password. On the listinfo page: http://mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo/list enter your email address in tha last slot and click Unsubscribe or edit options. On the page which is displayed there's an Email my password to me button. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to block spiders?
Paul Normally with an apache web server you can just place a robots.txt Paul file in the root of the documents directory. Not sure how one Paul might be able to do this with mailman. Paul When you take a look at the archives for a list, one sees Paulhttp://server-name/pipermail/list-name/ Paul Since there isn't a pipermail directory, one can't just place a Paul robots.txt file in that directory. The robots.txt file only belongs in the server root. Placing it lower in the hierarchy isn't supported, and I doubt any spiders/crawlers would look for it lower down. Instead, add a Disallow: rule which references /pipermail: User-agent: * Disallow: /pipermail/ -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] What is the mailman mailing list used for?
I asked about this a couple days ago, but it was buried in another message, so maybe nobody saw it. Why is the mailman mailing list necessary? Pre-2.1, I just had an alias which pointed to me. Now I apparently need a fully functioning Mailman list called mailman. I read the FAQ at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.025.htp but it doesn't explain why a list (as opposed to a simple alias) is required. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] pending subscriptions sent to -owner address not -admin address
I'm running MM 2.1.2. On one list which has three admins, all pending subscription messages appear to be going to the -owner address (just me) instead of the -admin address (all three of us). Any ideas where to look for an answer? I checked the MM FAQ Wizard. It appears that question 3.27 addresses this, but there's no answer posted. I also googled the archives but couldn't find anything obvious. Here are my sendmail aliases: cedu-admin:|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin cedu cedu-bounces: |/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces cedu cedu-confirm: |/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm cedu cedu-join: |/etc/smrsh/mailman join cedu cedu-leave:|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave cedu cedu-owner:|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner cedu cedu-request: |/etc/smrsh/mailman request cedu cedu-subscribe:|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe cedu cedu-unsubscribe: |/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe cedu I suppose I could try changing cedu-owner to be an alias for cedu-admin. Do others do that? Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] mailman list - why can't it just be an alias?
In moving from MM 2.0 to MM 2.1 I began getting warnings during the start-of-month mailings about a missing mailman list. I had previously just had a mailman alias pointing to me, but that apparently wasn't sufficient. Who needs to be on that list? All list admins moderators or just those who actually administer the mailman installation? That would be just me on this particular machine and is how I have it set up. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-membr submissions regex's
Chris I'm trying to put a regex in the non-member submission list. I'm Chris my case I put in Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris which, if I understand this correctly, should allow the list to Chris accept all addresses in my domain and post them. It ain't Chris working. The star isn't repeating anything. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. (Dunno if the ^ is required or not. It may perform match() instead of search() calls.) -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Issue
Lee I administer a Mailman mailing list, and spam is a major problem. Lee I chose the option of permitting posting only by members to avoid Lee spamming the members. However, that causes all spam to be held for Lee administrative action. That means I have to laboriously scroll Lee down the page checking Discard for every message. Finding the Lee selection button and clicking requires concentration. Tonight I Lee discarded 140 messages, and the problem is growing. Lee Is there any way to simply discard all non-member email or check Lee Discard for all messages? I'm sure there are other solutions by now, but awhile ago I wrote a simple script to do a bulk discard: http://www.musi-cal.com/~skip/python/mmdiscard.py I've only ever used it with MM 2.1. YMMV with other versions. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Message from Cron Daemon
Fred Cron Daemon has started occasionally sending me the message: Fred Site list is missing: mailman Fred Can someone tell me what's up with that? Recent versions of Mailman (= 2.1 I think) require an actual Mailman mailing list called mailman for some of the regular monthly upkeep. Just create such a list in the usual fashion using bin/newlist and subscribe to it. Older versions of Mailman used to be happy with a mailman alias. For some reason that's no longer sufficient. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Lists stopped working
jo I host 5 lists using mailman and all of them have stopped working. jo Mail sent to them is not going through and not found in archives. jo There are no error messages. Can someone please tell me where I jo might begin to look for the problem? Is mailman running? You din't identify your system, but on my Linux system I have lots of mailman-ish processes: % ps auxww | egrep mailman mailman 24530 0.0 0.4 4096 3088 ?S04:02 0:00 /usr/local/bin/python /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl start mailman 24535 0.0 0.5 5272 4040 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman 24536 0.0 0.5 5376 4204 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 24537 0.0 0.5 5308 4168 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 24538 0.0 0.6 5884 4736 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 24542 0.0 0.5 5304 4076 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 24543 0.0 0.6 6316 5160 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 24544 0.0 0.6 5976 4808 ?S04:02 0:00 qrunner /home/mailman21/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s skip 22599 0.0 0.0 1764 624 pts/1S11:46 0:00 egrep mailman Assuming you're on a Linux system and Mailman is properly installed, you might want to try (as root): /etc/rc.d/init.d/mailmanctl start -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Enquiry
johnson Could you please send me some detail whether the Mailman johnson software supports windows operating system? The 2.1 README indicates it won't run with Windows, though it appears that if you are willing to jump through the proper hoops it may work on Win2k. Check the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq05.002.htp Note that qa was last updated over a year ago. YMMV. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?
email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?
I don't know if Mailman has any capability in this area. You can push
things through procmail though and have it control the generation of the
automatic response. I have a non-Mailman email alias which I manage this
way. Its procmailrc file has a rule like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MY_XLOOP=X-Loop: ${ALTFROM}
FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
:0 Whc: reply.lock
* !^FROM_DAEMON
* !^$MY_XLOOP
| $FORMAIL -rD 65536 $HOME/.msg.cache
:0 ehc # if the name was not in the cache
| ($FORMAIL -rAPrecedence: junk -A$MY_XLOOP ; \
cat .../auto-reply.txt) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t
A shell script in /etc/cron.weekly deletes the .msg.cache file, thus nobody
gets the auto-response more than once a week.
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[Mailman-Users] Auto-discard notifications?
I get the occasional message from Mailman (2.1) with the subject Auto-discard notification and an attached mail which was discarded. The message offers no explanation for why Mailman discarded it. After looking through the bounce and filter pages of the admin interface, it doesn't seem that either applies. (Both pages suggest that I should get a reason along with any messages forwarded to me.) Any pointers would be appreciated. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] how is content filtered in the presence of multipart/alternative?
I read the FAQ and the content filtering page of the admin interface but didn't see this answered. Given these settings: filter_content: Yes pass_mime_types:multipart/mixed multipart/alternative text/plain convert_html_to_plaintext: Yes if a message is sent as multipart/alternative and it contains one text/plain and one text/html section, is the text/html section deleted or just stripped of HTML tags and retained as (a roughly duplicate) text/plain section? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] dump the queue??
Amanda 2) some kind of queue dump at the command line side, so that as Amandathe site administrator I can do that for someone, just clear Amandaout their whole queue if it got clogged up and they just want Amandato ditch everything in it. I posted my mmdiscard.py script the other day not realizing the attachment would get stripped. I just added it into my Python Bits page: http://www.musi-cal.com/~skip/python/ It's crude (no command line parameters and the password is embedded in the script), but worked for me. Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?
David I tried ... David [EMAIL PROTECTED] David [EMAIL PROTECTED] David ... but got an invalid value error. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] ban_list example?
Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Not knowing anything about mailman's use of these values: Scott The ^.*something regex is equivalent to just something. Scott ^.* is useless, confusing and should never be used in a regex Scott for the regex libraries with which I am familiar. I realized it was superfluous shortly after posting. I was focusing on the missing '.' (really, just about anything) in the OP's post. @xyz.com should be sufficient, unless Mailman uses re.match() for this particular task. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed
Allan We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Allan Mailman to see how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with Allan extracts from our main database), and they don't know what Allan address we used for them. This is kinda techno-nerdy which might not match your user population very well, but in many/most situations people should be able to look at the Received: headers (when the personalization footer is absent) and work their way from bottom to top to see what address of theirs is subscribed based upon who it's being delivered to. Here are the Received: headers I got from your message, numbered for convenience: 7. Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.1.0) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:16:20 -0500 (CDT) 6. Received: from dolly1.pobox.com (dolly1.pobox.com [207.106.49.22]) by manatee.mojam.com (8.12.1-20030917/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h9DJF972002640 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:15:09 -0500 5. Received: from dolly1.pobox.com (localhost[127.0.0.1]) by dolly1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0310BA062 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Received: from mail.python.org (mail.python.org[12.155.117.29]) by dolly1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE735B8D8B for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:12:44 -0400 (EDT) 3. Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.python.org) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A987Y-0005WZ-Ip for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:12:44 -0400 2. Received: from [155.106.252.242] (helo=mail.prin.edu) by mail.python.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A985f-0004g0-9f for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:10:47 -0400 1. Received: from AllanTrick.prin.edu ([155.106.116.4]) by mail.prin.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9DJ86216797 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:08:06 -0500 The server running Mailman will probably talk directly to the MX host for the destination domain. In this case, [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears in #3 while the message is still on mail.python.org as well as in #4 once it gets to dolly1.pobox.com. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with posts from non-subscribers efficiently
John I run a couple of Mailman lists with a prohibition on postings by John non-subscribers. This is very effective at ensuring that no Spam John gets through to the list. John The only problem is that each week I have to sit down and click on John the Discard button for a couple of hundred rubbish messages. I wrote the attached script during the latest worm debacle. Worked well for me to keep the python-help list cleaned out. At the height of the furor, I was discarding over 1,000 messages per day. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/ http://www.mojam.com/ Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] pending_subscriptions.db format?
I've been migrating my subscriptions over to 2.1.2 from 2.0.9, mostly
because I began having problems I couldn't fathom with the lists hosted on
2.0.9. A few are still on 2.0.9 and I'll probably migrate them soon enough,
however I encountered a problem with my 2.0.9 pending_subscriptions.db file
I'm curious about. I got this traceback in the mail:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py, line 223, in
ParseMailCommands
self.__dispatch[cmd](args, line, msg)
File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py, line 621, in
ProcessConfirmCmd
self.ProcessConfirmation(cookie)
File /home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 1024, in ProcessConfirmation
got = Pending().confirmed(cookie)
File ../Mailman/Pending.py, line 88, in confirmed
File ../Mailman/Pending.py, line 111, in __save
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/data/pending_subscriptions.db'
Investigating, I saw the file was owned by nobody:mailman. (This change may
be sendmail-related since I upgraded sendmail recently. Any thoughts on
that?) Anyway, I chown'd it back to mailman:mailman and decided to take a
look at it from the Python interpreter. I thought it was in pickle format,
but that appears not to be the case:
import pickle
d = pickle.load(open(pending_subscriptions.db))
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in ?
File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/pickle.py, line 982, in load
return Unpickler(file).load()
File /usr/local/lib/python2.2/pickle.py, line 597, in load
dispatch[key](self)
KeyError: {
Is it in some other non-bsddb format?
Thx,
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[Mailman-Users] Nothing gets archived...
(Please cc me on any replies, as I'm not subscribed to this list.) I've been using Mailman for a couple years to run several small private, non-archived mailing lists. Today, I tried creating a public, archived mailing list for the first time. The list mail comes and goes just fine, but nothing turns up in the archives as far as I can tell. I googled a bit but couldn't find anything helpful. I'm hoping one of the experts here can steer me quickly in the right direction before a lot of mail messages flow through unarchived. Here's my configuration: mailman 2.0.9 built from source running on Mandrake Linux with (I believe) Python 2.1.1. (I hesitate a bit there because I have several versions of Python installed. The mailman user sees /usr/bin/python before /usr/local/bin/python though.) ~mailman is /home/mailman. The relevant bits of the archives tree looks like so: % ls -lR archives archives: total 2 drwxr-s--x 24 skip mailman 1024 Jan 28 21:44 private/ drwxrwsr-x2 skip mailman 1024 Jan 28 21:46 public/ archives/private: total 22 drwxrwsr-x2 skip mailman 1024 Jan 28 21:44 csv.mbox/ archives/private/csv.mbox: total 0 archives/public: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 skip mailman19 Jan 28 21:44 csv - ../private/csv.mbox/ I manually renamed archives/public/csv.mbox to archives/public/csv because the link to the list archives web page is to http://manatee.mojam.com/pipermail/csv/ Speaking of which, the Mailman portion of my Apache config file looks like so: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /home/mailman/archives/public Options FollowSymLinks Indexes /Directory Location /mailman SetHandler cgi-script Options ExecCGI /Location The only new bits I added today were the Alias directive and the Directory stuff. The ScriptAlias directive and Location stuff were there before and work fine. I can get to http://manatee.mojam.com/pipermail/csv/ just fine, but there's nothing there. Do archive messages not get appended immediately as mail transits the system? Here's mailman's crontab: # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending requests 0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs # # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as threshhold delivery. 0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests # # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders. 0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds # # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right now, # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling. #0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news # # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file. Only # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py 27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip # # Retry failed deliveries once per minute. * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner and the relevant entries in /etc/mail/aliases: ## csv mailing list ## created: 28-Jan-2003 skip csv: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post csv csv-admin: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner csv csv-request: |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd csv csv-owner: csv-admin I didn't dink around with the archive settings. The archive options are all defaults: archive messages, archive file source is public, archive date is when the mail claims and new volumes should be started monthly. What am I missing? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.musi-cal.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Mailman-Users] Nothing gets archived...
Skip I've been using Mailman for a couple years to run several small Skip private, non-archived mailing lists. Today, I tried creating a Skip public, archived mailing list for the first time. The list mail Skip comes and goes just fine, but nothing turns up in the archives as Skip far as I can tell. I googled a bit but couldn't find anything Skip helpful. I'm hoping one of the experts here can steer me quickly Skip in the right direction before a lot of mail messages flow through Skip unarchived. After posting my message and getting a held for the moderator response but not hearing anything for awhile (thinking maybe the message had been discarded), I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Mailman 2.1. I now have archives. Dunno what was wrong w/ my MM 2.0.9 installation, but the problem is fixed now. Thx, Skip -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: archive@jab.org Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] stripmime.pl doesn't?
I'm running Mailman 2.0.8. I just installed Alex Wetmore's stripmime.pl script today (including chmod +x), modified /etc/mail/aliases (I run sendmail) like so: thelist: |/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post thelist reran newaliases and added the necessary symlink to /etc/smrsh. I then sent five test messages to the list using XEmacs+VM 6.96. Test #1 was plain text. Tests 2, 3, and 4 had a plain text section and a single small html attachment. Test 5 had a plain text section and three html attachments. Viewing a generated plain text digest I can't see that stripmime.pl did anything. None of the five messages was lost, but none appear to have been altered in any way. Am I perhaps missing something? I thought it's main thing was to zap HTML attachments. Thx, -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: stripmime.pl doesn't?
Alex, Thanks for the reply and the test case. I verified that it seems to do the right thing when fed your mimehtml test case or one of my test messages at the shell prompt. I will have to check into things deeper to see what's going on w/ mailman. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: stripmime
tneff If you get verification that Stripmime is running, but it's just tneff acting like 'cat'... I'm not 100% sure what the actual problem was, but I have a good idea now. As I mentioned, my alias looked like thelist: |/usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post thelist as described on the stripmime.pl web page. The messages were going through untouched. I suspect that sendmail was throwing away everything up to the last pipe symbol before processing. A suggestion off-list that worked was to create the following shell script as /etc/smrsh/stripmime that does #!/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/stripmime.pl | /home/mailman/mail/wrapper $@ and install that script as the alias target. I am now in business... Alex, I know you don't want to get roped into supporting every possible stripmime/MTA/MLM combination, but it might be worth mentioning this trick related to sendmail on your web page. Thanks for the help, -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mm friendly ISP/web host?
Chris Hi all. I am soon going to lose my broadband (moving to the Chris countryside), which means that the server in my office is going Chris to disappear. I was wondering if you all could suggest an ISP or Chris web hosting company whose accounts allow you (both technically Chris and as part of the TOS) to install and run Mailman under a hosted Chris domain. Thanks much for any suggestions. Hostway (http://www.hostway.com/) provides Mailman with all services except their most basic offering. They allow you to run one list with up to 250 subscribers. If you want to run more mailing lists or run a list with more users you can for an extra fee. I have a Hostway account, but have not used Mailman there and have no financial interest, yadda, yadda, yadda. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands via email...
Frederick Is it possible to send in approval commands via email (I used Frederick to do it with Majordomo and Yahoogroups, but they are both Frederick difficult in other ways) instead of having to log on via the Frederick Net? Yup... Try sending a message to the list's -request address with a message body of just 'help' (no quotes). You should get back a message like * help Help for ... mailing list: This is email command help for version 2.0.8 of the Mailman list manager. The following describes commands you can send to get information about and control your subscription to Mailman lists at this site. A command can be in the subject line or in the body of the message. Note that much of the following can also be accomplished via the World Wide Web, at: http://... In particular, you can use the Web site to have your password sent to your delivery address. ... The following commands are valid: subscribe [password] [digest-option] [address=address] ... unsubscribe password [address] ... ... -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) ... if I were on life-support, I'd rather have it run by a Gameboy than a Windows box. - Cliff Wells -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
[Mailman-Users] AOL disabling Reply All button - is this unique?
I got the following message from a user on a Mailman-managed list: I have a technical question. On all the CEDU mailing list e-mail I get, the reply to all button is blanked out so I can only reply to the person sending the mail. I've also been having some problems with AOL. Is this related, or unique to this site? I've got several other groups I send to, but no others have this particular problem. I do not mess with the Reply-To header, so it refers to the poster, not the list. Any ideas why AOL might be disabling the Reply All button? That is, is it something AOL doesn't like about Mailman or is it something specific to this user? Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML formatting in digests
marina Will the formatting of email messages in digests be fixed in marina 2.1? Sounds like your users have selected so-called plain text digests. If it's possible for them to use MIME digests, the problem should go away. Some folks (like those using AOL I think) can't, however. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] feature request - distiguish bouncing from no mail addresses
I run a mailman-managed mailing list with about 250 subscribers. In December, through no fault of mailman's I f*cked up my sendmail installation. Consequently, lots of mail to this list bounced and mailman obligingly disabled the bouncing addresses (about 140 addresses all told). Once my sendmail problems were straightened out, I checked the logs/bounced file to identify which addresses were disabled by mailman, then unchecked their no mail setting one-by-one in the membership management section. This was obviously a bit tedious, so I made some mistakes in the process. I would find it helpful if mailman distinguished addresses for users asking to go no mail and bouncing addresses mailman disabled. Even if I couldn't click a reenable all bouncing addresses link, it would be easier to simply uncheck all boxes in a particular column instead of having to go back and forth between the bounce log and the membership management pages unchecking some and leaving others alone. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] feature request - distiguish bouncing from no mail addresses
I would find it helpful if mailman distinguished addresses for users asking to go no mail and bouncing addresses mailman disabled. Dan Part of 2.1 Praise choose your favorite diet(y|ies)! Thx, Skip -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers
Scott I have Mailman installed and working ( for nine months now ). Scott Yesterday I rebooted my server for the first time in four months. Scott Today, Mailman works (send mail) but the Admin interface doesn't. Scott I receive 'Internal Server Error' in the browser window. Scott in httpd/error.log I receive the 'Premature end of headers' error, Scott I recieve no error in syslog (messages) or maillog. What's the full traceback? It should be in error.log and will probably help pinpoint the source of the problem. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Premature End of Headers
Scott Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT gid 501. (Reconfigure Scott to take 501?) Scott Where 46 = GID of apache . Did your apache runtime GID change? Sounds like Mailman needs to be reconfigured with the correct --with-* flags and reinstalled. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailman doesn't understand email address details?
I started experimenting with Jason Mastaler's TMDA spam fighting tool a few days ago. It allows you to generate time-sensitive reply addresses in outgoing mail like [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many MTAs support the use of such detail information. I discovered that Mailman doesn't, however. This makes it impossible to use dated addresses with closed mailing lists. Any chance that Mailman will recognize such addresses in the future? -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] loops with out of office/vacation autoresponders
[ ... 5000 I'm away for the holidays messages - what fun ... ] Robert Why do I not see more of this on other lists that I participate Robert in? I manage the Xforms list, using Majordomo. I've never seen Robert such a loop on Xforms. What is happening that makes lists here Robert at USU so problematic when the reply ot all members feature is Robert enabled? The broken vacation program replies to the Reply-To address which is ... shazam! ... the entire list. That message gets forwarded to the email address of the person vacationing in the Bahamas and the cycle repeats. I would think the potential damage this can cause is severe enough in repy-to-all lists to motivate list managers to not set up their lists that way. Assuming Xforms is set up as a reply-to-all list, perhaps Majordomo has more sophisticated heuristics in place than Mailman about such stuff. It wouldn't be the first time a more mature program had more features than a less mature program. (I'm not saying Mailman isn't mature, just that since Majordomo has been around longer, it's had more time to collect such features.) It may just also be that you've been blessed with good luck on the Xforms list and haven't run into such problems. Runaway vacation programs are, in the grand scheme of things, actually fairly rare. I run the Mojam and Musi-Cal websites. We have an auto-notify feature that lets people subscribe to specific searches. When new stuff turns up, it sends them a message. In addition, the websites themselves supports a couple email aliases that function (in part) as autoresponders. Over the nearly eight years I'm been running this stuff I've only encountered 20-30 instances of such bad responders. Now that your users have seen the potential damage from such runaway responders, you might explain to them that the reply-to-all setup had a hand in this debacle and ask them if they'd prefer that feature be turned off... -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML in digests?
marina We are running a list using Mailman 2, where most of the members marina are totally computer illiterate, and cannot be bothered marina understanding why or how to change their email settings. marina As a result, this list digests include huge portions of HTML marina coding - which is perceived as extremely annoying by several marina users (including some who choose to use HTML mail, of course). Can you just change your users' digest settings from plain to MIME digests for them? Can you make MIME digests the default option for people who choose to read the digest version of your list? -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] struggling with minor mailman upgrade
Albert You should change the /etc/smrsh/wrapper entry into a Logical Albert link in /home/mailman/mail/wrapper. ... Albert One more thing that I forgot to mention earlier, Sendmail 8.12.1 Albert and smrsh also use the /usr/adm/sm.bin directory. Thanks for the suggestions, however, smsrh was compiled with /etc/smrsh as the link directory and /etc/smrsh/wrapper is a symlink to /home/mailman/mail/wrapper already. -- Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
