Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Mark, thank you! This looks a *lot* easier than what I was trying to do, and perhaps the post even implies that what I was trying to do won't work: many people cannot use David Champion's mm-handler due to shared use of domains (what exactly does he mean by shared use of domains?) All that said, the follow-up post really gives me pause: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037543.html Is that a legitimate worry? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All that said, the follow-up post really gives me pause: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037543.html Is that a legitimate worry? Whoops, I now see that by this perl script he's referring to mm-handler. Thanks. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams wrote: Mark, thank you! This looks a *lot* easier than what I was trying to do, and perhaps the post even implies that what I was trying to do won't work: many people cannot use David Champion's mm-handler due to shared use of domains (what exactly does he mean by shared use of domains?) He means a given domain which is the recipient domain for both list mail and at least some non-list mail. mm-handler works best if the lists have their own domain which doesn't receive non-list mail. Then Sendmail is configured so all the mail to that domain goes to mm-handler for delivery to Mailman. If there are other, non-list addresses in the same domain, they have to be handled via their own aliases 'ahead of' mm-handler. If there are a lot of these, the problem of handling the non-list addresses becomes larger than the problem of handling list mail via aliases without mm-handler. Of course, there are other MTAs (e.g., Exim) that can be configured to determine whether an address should be routed to Mailman by examining the Mailman file system to determine if a particular name is a Mailman list, but with Sendmail, the easier way is probably the method referenced in the FAQ. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Abrahams wrote: Mark, thank you! This looks a *lot* easier than what I was trying to do, and perhaps the post even implies that what I was trying to do won't work: many people cannot use David Champion's mm-handler due to shared use of domains (what exactly does he mean by shared use of domains?) He means a given domain which is the recipient domain for both list mail and at least some non-list mail. mm-handler works best if the lists have their own domain which doesn't receive non-list mail. So I gathered. That's what I was doing by trying to designate lists.boost-consulting.com as the domain for mailman. I think I'd still like to maintain that separation in case I need to switch to mm-handler someday. Then Sendmail is configured so all the mail to that domain goes to mm-handler for delivery to Mailman. If there are other, non-list addresses in the same domain, they have to be handled via their own aliases 'ahead of' mm-handler. Oh, so every regular user in that domain needs to be dealt with via an alias somehow? If there are a lot of these, the problem of handling the non-list addresses becomes larger than the problem of handling list mail via aliases without mm-handler. Of course, there are other MTAs (e.g., Exim) that can be configured to determine whether an address should be routed to Mailman by examining the Mailman file system to determine if a particular name is a Mailman list, Yeah, we tried exim but failed to make exim to do SMTP AUTH via the same saslauthd that was being used for Cyrus, and the exim list was of little help to us, so we had to give up on it. but with Sendmail, the easier way is probably the method referenced in the FAQ. Thanks. If I hack up a Python script for this purpose I will post it here. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Heh, first hurdle: The instructions at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html start with Create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with these commands: /bin/cp /home/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases but I have no /home/mailman/, nor any /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (which is what I suppose is intended) on my system. Perhaps /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases should contain ## mailman mailing list mailman:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman ? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Heh, first hurdle: The instructions at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html start with Create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with these commands: /bin/cp /home/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases but I have no /home/mailman/, nor any /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (which is what I suppose is intended) on my system. Perhaps /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases should contain ## mailman mailing list mailman:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: |/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe:|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman ? Heh, and even if I do that, I don't end up with a /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases. It seems like something needs to tell newaliases about /etc/mailman.aliases, and the only thing I see in the instructions that could do it is a later step: 3. We have to tell sendmail about the new alias file. in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc find this line: define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl and change it to: define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases,/etc/mailman.aliases')dnl Run a make (or otherwise refresh sendmail.cf and then restart sendmail Now when we run newaliases, it will rebuild both alias files. Am I missing something? I feel like I'm groping around in the dark here. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams wrote: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the 'automated' method referred to in the FAQ. You may decide you don't need to go the mm-handler route. Heh, first hurdle: The instructions at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html start with Create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with these commands: /bin/cp /home/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases but I have no /home/mailman/, nor any /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases (which is what I suppose is intended) on my system. After you set MTA = 'Postfix' in mm_cfg.py and run bin/genaliases, the Mailman aliases will be put in /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases, before the POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD is run by the genaliases process. Then as lists are created/deleted, /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases will be maintained automatically. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams wrote: Heh, and even if I do that, I don't end up with a /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases. You have to create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with execute permission and containing /bin/cp /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases It seems like something needs to tell newaliases about /etc/mailman.aliases, and the only thing I see in the instructions that could do it is a later step: It is the POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases' That tells the process to run that file in order to update system aliases from the /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases that the process creates/updates. 3. We have to tell sendmail about the new alias file. in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc find this line: define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases')dnl and change it to: define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases,/etc/mailman.aliases')dnl Run a make (or otherwise refresh sendmail.cf and then restart sendmail Now when we run newaliases, it will rebuild both alias files. Am I missing something? I feel like I'm groping around in the dark here. Here's what happens: 1) You create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with execute permission and containing /bin/cp /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases This will actually be run later. 2) You put in mm_cfg.py MTA='Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases' What this does is it tells Mailman's bin/genaliases and list creation/deletion processes to run Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py as part of the process to deal with aliases. This in turn updates data/aliases (a fixed file name) and then invokes POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD to update the system aliases. That command runs the script in /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases (as root) to copy the aliases to /etc/mailman.aliases (This is necessary because of point 1. in the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html) and run /usr/bin/newaliases to update Sendmail's database. Now Mailman aliases are being automatically maintained in /etc/mailman.aliases, but none of this actually happens until step 5. of the above post's instructions. 3) You add /etc/mailman.aliases to Sendmail's configuration so Sendmail will use that file. You do the other steps as outlined in the post. Does this help? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Hi, If it can help. I had problems installing and integrating with sendmail. Culprit was that it needs to know under which group sendmail is used. So, look carefully in your sendmail.cf (DefaultUser) and make sure you compile mailman with the switch to include this group for : --with-cgi-gid=group and make an install user that is part of the mailman group to install the mailman software. If you try to send an email to the list, it may show you under which group sendmail is using. This helped me. Pierre Forget Quoting David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I'm trying to follow the directions for integrating Mailman with Sendmail, but I think they may be incomplete. It looks like there were orginally some instructions directed at installations like mine (a few users, a few mailing lists, *one* computer), and they were entirely replaced by instructions for installations where an entire host could be dedicated to serving mailman lists. There are oblique references to how much easier the mm-handler method is than the alternative maintaining lists of aliases but no details about what that alternative involves. I don't mind going the mm-handler way if it's more scalable, so I pointed a separate domain, lists.boost-consulting.com, at my server. But now I have to learn about virtual hosting with sendmail and figure out how to integrate my .mc file with the supplied mailman.mc and have the respective settings that are different only apply to the intended hosts. I don't know too much about sendmail (or email protocols in general, really), so this is turning into a big and risky project. Is there anyone here who can help me get this stuff configured without bringing my email system to its knees for too long? Thanks in advance, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/tech14%40netaxis.ca Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp Netaxis inc, www.netaxis.ca Ce message a été envoyé en utilisant IMP, le Programme de Messagerie Internet. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Abrahams wrote: Heh, and even if I do that, I don't end up with a /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases. You have to create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases with execute permission and containing /bin/cp /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases /etc/mailman.aliases /usr/bin/newaliases Oh! The substitution of that word containing for the post's with made all the difference. :) I read create this file with these commands as, use these commands to create /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases It is the POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases' That tells the process to run that file in order to update system aliases from the /usr/local/mailman/data/aliases that the process creates/updates. Sure. 2) You put in mm_cfg.py MTA='Postfix' POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases' What this does is it tells Mailman's bin/genaliases and list creation/deletion processes to run Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py as part of the process to deal with aliases. This in turn updates data/aliases (a fixed file name) and then invokes POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD to update the system aliases. That command runs the script in /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases (as root) to copy the aliases to /etc/mailman.aliases (This is necessary because of point 1. in the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-June/037518.html) and run /usr/bin/newaliases to update Sendmail's database. Now Mailman aliases are being automatically maintained in /etc/mailman.aliases, but none of this actually happens until step 5. of the above post's instructions. Uh-huh. But now I have all the products mentioned in step 5 except for mailman.aliases.db. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but... any clues? Does this help? Pretty good, thanks, but still a mystery lurks. Where's mailman.aliases.db? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams wrote: Uh-huh. But now I have all the products mentioned in step 5 except for mailman.aliases.db. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but... any clues? If /etc/mailman.aliases is properly referenced in the sendmail configuration, the /usr/bin/newaliases command in the /usr/bin/newaliases script should create/update the /etc/mailman.aliases.db file. Did you remember Run a make (or otherwise refresh sendmail.cf and then restart sendmail from step 3? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Abrahams wrote: Uh-huh. But now I have all the products mentioned in step 5 except for mailman.aliases.db. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but... any clues? If /etc/mailman.aliases is properly referenced in the sendmail configuration, the /usr/bin/newaliases command in the /usr/bin/newaliases script should create/update the /etc/mailman.aliases.db file. Did you remember Run a make (or otherwise refresh sendmail.cf and then restart sendmail from step 3? Yep. I was editing boost.mc so in /etc/mail I did make boost.cf cp boost.cf sendmail.cf make restart Another problem I'm been having is the inability to get past the end of http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node40.html i.e. review the site list's configuration via the admin pages. You should also subscribe yourself to the site list. 20 minutes of flailing later...oooh, http://my-domain/mailman/admin works I guess it would be good if the instructions would tell me how to find that :) -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
Pierre Forget [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, If it can help. I had problems installing and integrating with sendmail. Culprit was that it needs to know under which group sendmail is used. So, look carefully in your sendmail.cf (DefaultUser) and make sure you compile mailman with the switch to include this group for : --with-cgi-gid=group Pardon me, but isn't the GID with which to execute cgi scripts? Or are you saying that mailman's CGI scripts need to execute with the same GID as sendmail? If so, why? and make an install user An install user? that is part of the mailman group to install the mailman software. I installed mailman using a FreeBSD port, which means I don't get to do most of those things manually; the port takes care of all that and I don't get control between configure and make install. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep. I was editing boost.mc so in /etc/mail I did make boost.cf cp boost.cf sendmail.cf make restart Problem solved: I was pointing sendmail at the wrong path for the mailman.aliases file. [/etc/aliases was just a symlink to /etc/mail/aliases, so I was pointing sendmail at /etc/mail/mailman.aliases, but of course that was wrong. I needed to be specifying /etc/mailman.aliases.] Anyway, thanks very much; it all seems to be working now. Say, if I really want to distinguish lists.mydomain.com from mydomain.com, is there any reason I can't still set up a virtual mail host and tack an automated updating of the virtusers file as shown in http://www.ddj.com/dept/architect/184413752?pgno=4 onto /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases ? Thanks again, -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams wrote: Say, if I really want to distinguish lists.mydomain.com from mydomain.com, is there any reason I can't still set up a virtual mail host and tack an automated updating of the virtusers file as shown in http://www.ddj.com/dept/architect/184413752?pgno=4 onto /usr/local/sbin/mailman.aliases ? I think you'd be OK (I'm not particularly knowledgeable about sendmail virtual domains). One word of caution; the article you refer to is written for Mailman 2.0.x, not 2.1.x. Note that if you were to put POSTFIX_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.mydomain.com'] in mm_cfg.py, the genaliases/list create/list delete process will maintain data/virtual-mailman in the same manner as data/aliases and run POSTFIX_MAP_CMD to update the virtual maps. POSTFIX_MAP_CMD could be set up analogously to POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with Mailman and Sendmail
David Abrahams wrote: Pardon me, but isn't the GID with which to execute cgi scripts? Or are you saying that mailman's CGI scripts need to execute with the same GID as sendmail? If so, why? Mailman's CGI scripts must run as group 'mailman' (or whatever is specified as the mailman group). Therefore, the wrappers are in the mailman group and SETGID. For security reasons (to prevent anyone from running a wrapper), the wrappers check to be sure the original group of the caller was the expected group. It's this expected GID that is set via the --with-cgi-gid option to configure, but as you note, you are installing a packaged Mailman (a FreeBSD port) so this really doesn't apply, at least if the packager set it up right. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq06.016.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
Thanks Mark. Answers and questions below. Mark Sapiro wrote: When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following error: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found This error is due to improper installation of Mailman's crontab and has nothing to do with your missing emails. RedHat makes a crontab which they intend to be installed as /etc/cron.d/mailman. Thus, the crontab contains the userid (mailman) under which to run the command in field 6 and the command in field 7. You have installed this as the crontab for the mailman user. User crontab entries do not have the userid in field 6. I think I have fixed this error. I checked and found a mailman cron file in /var/spool/cron (where user based files are stored). I deleted this file. I do have the other cron file /etc/cron.d/mailman. After deleting the user entry, the previous error has not reappeared. Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes, the mail is delivered to Mailman. Its appearance in the archive proves that. Your problem is why is mail from Mailman not getting out. Is OutgoingRunner Running? I think so. Output from #ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon': mailman 5600 0.0 0.3 11096 3976 ?Ss Oct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 5601 0.1 0.8 14692 8584 ?SOct21 2:14 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5602 0.0 0.5 10260 5416 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5603 0.0 0.5 11248 5412 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5604 0.0 0.5 11936 5772 ?SOct21 0:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5605 0.0 0.5 11208 5440 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5606 0.0 0.5 11096 5660 ?SOct21 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5607 0.0 0.5 12372 5668 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5608 0.0 0.5 11356 5408 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s Mark Sapiro wrote: What's in Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? Are there entries in mailman's qfiles/out/, qfiles/retry/ and/or qfiles/shunt queue directories? If there are entries in qfiles/shunt/, what's in Mailman's error log. There is not an smtp-failure log. The smtp and error logs are here: smtp: Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.465 seconds Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.374 seconds Oct 22 16:02:02 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.342 seconds error: Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid' Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): Is qrunner even running? More newbie questions. Where is ~/qfiles under version 2.1.5? I have not been able to find it. Is this the equivalent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# pwd /var/spool/mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# ll total 60 drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 12288 Oct 22 16:03 archive drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 bounces drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:14 commands drwxrws--- 2 mailmailman 20480 Oct 22 16:03 in drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 news drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 22 16:03 out drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 retry drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 shunt drwxrws--- 2 rootmailman 4096 Oct 22 16:01 virgin All of these directories are empty. Regards, Tony Croes -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
Tony Croes wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes, the mail is delivered to Mailman. Its appearance in the archive proves that. Your problem is why is mail from Mailman not getting out. Is OutgoingRunner Running? I think so. Output from #ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon': mailman 5600 0.0 0.3 11096 3976 ?Ss Oct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 5601 0.1 0.8 14692 8584 ?SOct21 2:14 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5602 0.0 0.5 10260 5416 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5603 0.0 0.5 11248 5412 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5604 0.0 0.5 11936 5772 ?SOct21 0:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5605 0.0 0.5 11208 5440 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5606 0.0 0.5 11096 5660 ?SOct21 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5607 0.0 0.5 12372 5668 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5608 0.0 0.5 11356 5408 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s Yes. It looks like Outgoing Runner is running. Mark Sapiro wrote: What's in Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? Are there entries in mailman's qfiles/out/, qfiles/retry/ and/or qfiles/shunt queue directories? If there are entries in qfiles/shunt/, what's in Mailman's error log. There is not an smtp-failure log. This means nothing was ever written to it so it wasn't created yet. The smtp and error logs are here: smtp: Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.465 seconds Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.374 seconds Oct 22 16:02:02 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.342 seconds The above are delivery of Mailman generated messages, not posts. If they are associated with posts, they may be a message to the poster that the post was held, a message to list[EMAIL PROTECTED] that the post was held and resend of the list-owner message to the actual list owner address. However, you say the posts ARE in the archive, so they aren't being held or if they are, they are being approved. error: Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid' Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): Is qrunner even running? These are not relevant to your problem. More newbie questions. Where is ~/qfiles under version 2.1.5? I have not been able to find it. Is this the equivalent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# pwd /var/spool/mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# ll total 60 drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 12288 Oct 22 16:03 archive drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 bounces drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:14 commands drwxrws--- 2 mailmailman 20480 Oct 22 16:03 in drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 news drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 22 16:03 out drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 retry drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 shunt drwxrws--- 2 rootmailman 4096 Oct 22 16:01 virgin All of these directories are empty. This is where the RedHat rpm puts them. If you look in mm_cfg.py, you will see definitions of QUEUE_DIR, INQUEUE_DIR, OUTQUEUE_DIR, CMDQUEUE_DIR, BOUNCEQUEUE_DIR, NEWSQUEUE_DIR, ARCHQUEUE_DIR, SHUNTQUEUE_DIR, VIRGINQUEUE_DIR, BADQUEUE_DIR and RETRYQUEUE_DIR that define the location. Anyway, the fact that they are all empty means Mailman has finished processing the message - it is not queued anywhere for further processing. It could be 'held', but not if it appeared in the archive. The implication is the message had no recipients. i.e., the list has no members eligible for delivery - the list members - subscribe to the digest, - have delivery disabled, - are the poster who doesn't receive her own posts or - are a direct addressee who doesn't receive dups. There are a couple of other interesting things in the above. All the queue directories are 'default size' except 'in' and 'archive' which are large. This indicates a lot of messages were posted (and in the 'in' queue) before the qrunners (mailmanctl) were started. Thus the 'in' directory grew. Then Mailman (mailmanctl) was started and the 'in' queue was processed and a lot of messages were dumped in the 'archive' queue which also grew, but ArchRunner was running so the 'archive' queue was being
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
You nailed it. (doh!) See comments below. Thanks again for your help. -Original Message- From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:11 AM To: Tony Croes; mailman-users@python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)? Tony Croes wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Yes, the mail is delivered to Mailman. Its appearance in the archive proves that. Your problem is why is mail from Mailman not getting out. Is OutgoingRunner Running? I think so. Output from #ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon': mailman 5600 0.0 0.3 11096 3976 ?Ss Oct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s -q start mailman 5601 0.1 0.8 14692 8584 ?SOct21 2:14 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5602 0.0 0.5 10260 5416 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5603 0.0 0.5 11248 5412 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5604 0.0 0.5 11936 5772 ?SOct21 0:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5605 0.0 0.5 11208 5440 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5606 0.0 0.5 11096 5660 ?SOct21 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5607 0.0 0.5 12372 5668 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s mailman 5608 0.0 0.5 11356 5408 ?SOct21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s Yes. It looks like Outgoing Runner is running. Mark Sapiro wrote: What's in Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? Are there entries in mailman's qfiles/out/, qfiles/retry/ and/or qfiles/shunt queue directories? If there are entries in qfiles/shunt/, what's in Mailman's error log. There is not an smtp-failure log. This means nothing was ever written to it so it wasn't created yet. The smtp and error logs are here: smtp: Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.465 seconds Oct 22 16:01:44 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.374 seconds Oct 22 16:02:02 2006 (5606) [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.342 seconds The above are delivery of Mailman generated messages, not posts. If they are associated with posts, they may be a message to the poster that the post was held, a message to list[EMAIL PROTECTED] that the post was held and resend of the list-owner message to the actual list owner address. However, you say the posts ARE in the archive, so they aren't being held or if they are, they are being approved. [Tony:] Posts are in the archive. They were held, until I went in and approved them. I did receive the approval request e-mails. error: Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/master-qrunner.pid' Oct 21 11:52:13 2006 mailmanctl(6580): Is qrunner even running? These are not relevant to your problem. More newbie questions. Where is ~/qfiles under version 2.1.5? I have not been able to find it. Is this the equivalent: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# pwd /var/spool/mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# ll total 60 drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 12288 Oct 22 16:03 archive drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 bounces drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 23:14 commands drwxrws--- 2 mailmailman 20480 Oct 22 16:03 in drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 news drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 22 16:03 out drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 retry drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Oct 20 22:53 shunt drwxrws--- 2 rootmailman 4096 Oct 22 16:01 virgin All of these directories are empty. This is where the RedHat rpm puts them. If you look in mm_cfg.py, you will see definitions of QUEUE_DIR, INQUEUE_DIR, OUTQUEUE_DIR, CMDQUEUE_DIR, BOUNCEQUEUE_DIR, NEWSQUEUE_DIR, ARCHQUEUE_DIR, SHUNTQUEUE_DIR, VIRGINQUEUE_DIR, BADQUEUE_DIR and RETRYQUEUE_DIR that define the location. Anyway, the fact that they are all empty means Mailman has finished processing the message - it is not queued anywhere for further processing. It could be 'held', but not if it appeared in the archive. The implication is the message had no recipients. i.e., the list has no members eligible for delivery - the list members - subscribe to the digest, - have delivery disabled, - are the poster who doesn't receive her own posts or - are a direct addressee who doesn't receive dups. [Tony:] This is exactly the issue. 1. The poster does
[Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following error: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman smrsh symlink: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] al.net, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ctrcc.com, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to=| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Thanks for your help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following error: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman smrsh symlink: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] al.net, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ctrcc.com, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to=| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Thanks for your help. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help newbie with a common error (smrsh)?
Tony Croes wrote: I have just installed mailman on a RHEL4 system from the RedHat network via RPM. I can reach the list and admin tools via the web (i.e. cgi working). I can create lists, add new users and submit posts. However, these posts only show up in the web archives. I'm not getting them as forwarded email messages. When I look at the archives, I see repeated posts from Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following error: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found This error is due to improper installation of Mailman's crontab and has nothing to do with your missing emails. RedHat makes a crontab which they intend to be installed as /etc/cron.d/mailman. Thus, the crontab contains the userid (mailman) under which to run the command in field 6 and the command in field 7. You have installed this as the crontab for the mailman user. User crontab entries do not have the userid in field 6. I've tried to follow the faq (3.14 Troubleshooting: No mail going out to list members), but so far no luck. Here is some additional information: mailman exists and is executable (tried as root): [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman Usage: /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman program [args...] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file mailman mailman: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ll mailman -rwxrwsr-x 1 root mailman 19154 Aug 23 07:22 mailman smrsh symlink: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# ls /etc/smrsh/ mailman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# file /etc/smrsh/mailman /etc/smrsh/mailman: symbolic link to `/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman' All of the above affect delivery of incoming mail to Mailman which is working. I have these aliases. I commented out the first two which must have been put there by the RPM install. I have not tried commenting out the duplicates lower in the list and leaving the originals in: # mailman aliases # mailman: postmaster # mailman-owner: mailman # mailman mailing list mailman: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman mailman-admin: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman mailman-bounces: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman mailman-confirm: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman mailman-join: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman mailman-leave: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman mailman-owner: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman mailman-request: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman mailman-subscribe: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman mailman-unsubscribe: | /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman Likewise aliases only affect delivery of incoming mail to Mailman which is working. This is the kind of output I get when I tail maillog: Oct 21 12:27:14 server sendmail[19396]: k9LHRDWj019396: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] al.net, size=1676, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ctrcc.com, proto=SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.14 2.198.201] Oct 21 12:27:15 server MailScanner[11624]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 2280 bytes Oct 21 12:27:21 server MailScanner[11624]: Virus and Content Scanning: Starting Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Uninfected: Delivered 1 messages Oct 21 12:27:23 server MailScanner[11624]: Batch (1 message) processed in 7.97 s econds Oct 21 12:27:24 server sendmail[19580]: k9LHRDWj019396: to=| /usr/lib/mailman/m ail/mailman post mailman, ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (8/0), delay=00:00 :10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=121676, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Yes, the mail is delivered to Mailman. Its appearance in the archive proves that. Your problem is why is mail from Mailman not getting out. Is OutgoingRunner Running? What's in Mailman's 'smtp' and 'smtp-failure' logs? Are there entries in mailman's qfiles/out/, qfiles/retry/ and/or qfiles/shunt queue directories? If there are entries in qfiles/shunt/, what's in Mailman's error log. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
Hello: I just upgraded from Mailman 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 on FreeBSD 4.9 with Python 2.4 and Postfix 2.1.5. Mailman is now broken. I'm getting the following output constantly in /logs/error and no Mailman messages are going out: Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.106612+1be5c92a80ab547082a5e9cdc4559ca323c8e6aa Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.1583979+5c84c6deac57f0bcd69de2227df39129e6d767bc Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.1866331+b66e6efb843fbb219336532bf4dc59090a23ff07 Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.2128279+55071f6d7828aa08fb10c28199e4b21509d74d84 Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.2901649+19d5e4fbfa61ada78c90764d368691b4b90ec209 Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.316684+7cac1117ca3f58033c56f74e7903eff120adeb01 Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.3319981+3f4394eb80fa9c0ea39b9f229948529c2d1ccec6 Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.374896+4bc10a24e6c69702f4238f97b4b1c9c3bdc2 Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) SHUNTING: 1159420021.393198+d8ece0c246aaf3f844300bed529c683db97bf2a6 Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27 22:37:26 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile sender = msg.get_sender() AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender' Sep 27
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
aaron wrote:
I just upgraded from Mailman 2.1.5 to 2.1.9 on FreeBSD 4.9 with Python 2.4
and Postfix 2.1.5. Mailman is now broken.
I'm getting the following output constantly in /logs/error and no Mailman
messages are going out:
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) SHUNTING:
1159420021.106612+1be5c92a80ab547082a5e9cdc4559ca323c8e6aa
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Uncaught runner exception: 'str' object has no
attribute 'get_sender'
Sep 27 22:37:25 2006 (20239) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 162, in _onefile
sender = msg.get_sender()
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
Something is not properly upgraded/installed. Either there is something
wrong with the dequeue() method in Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py
causing it to not convert a 'string' message to a message object when
_parsemsg is true in the metadata, or there is something wrong with
the enqueue() method causing it to not set the _parsemsg flag when the
message is saved as a string or there is some other issue.
As a temporary workaround, you could try replacing
if data.get('_parsemsg'):
msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)
in the dequeue() definition with
if istype(msg, str):
msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)
Before you do that, you might try bin/dumpdb on one of the shunted
messages and see what it loogs like - in particular, the value of
_parsemsg. Better still, you could stop Mailman and post something and
look at the entry in the 'in' queue.
--
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
Mark Sapiro wrote: if istype(msg, str): msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) Ooops... How embarrassing. That should be if isinstance(msg, str): msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
Mark: Thanks so much. I did a dumpdb on one of the shunted messages and got
the following, which includes { '_parsemsg': False,. Should this give me
a clue as to what happened?
/usr/local/mailman/bin/dumpdb 1159420029.324728+0d259087c7806247727557883
597d4173df65dd6.pck [- start pickle file -]
- start object 1 -
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
As a temporary workaround, you could try replacing
if data.get('_parsemsg'):
msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)
in the dequeue() definition with
if istype(msg, str):
msg = email.message_from_string(msg, Message.Message)
OK, after this change, now I'm seeing this in /logs/error:
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760): msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760): if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34760): NameError : global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34765): NameError : global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34761): NameError : global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34767): NameError : global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): main()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 238, in main
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): qrunner.run()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 71, in run
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): filecnt = self._oneloop()
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 100, in _oneloop
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): msg, msgdata =
self._switchboard.dequeue(filebase)
Sep 28 10:03:17 2006 qrunner(34769): File
/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Switchboard.py, line 165, in dequeue
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34769): if istype(msg, str):
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34769): NameError : global name 'istype' is
not defined
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34770): Traceback (most recent call last):
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006 qrunner(34770): File
/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner, line 278, in ?
Sep 28 10:03:18 2006
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
aaron wrote: OK, after this change, now I'm seeing this in /logs/error: Apparently you missed my followup http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-September/053548.html. I got some kind of Confirmation of donation message from mutualaid.org fundraising [EMAIL PROTECTED] in response to your direct copy of that. Also see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-September/053550.html in case you missed that too. I'm sending your copy of this as a Bcc: so the list should send you one too. With luck, you'll get at least one. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
Apparently you missed my followup http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-September/053548.html . I got some kind of Confirmation of donation message from mutualaid.org fundraising [EMAIL PROTECTED] in response to your direct copy of that. Sorry, I sent my first message from the wrong account - was in a bit of a panic. Also see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-September/053550.html in case you missed that too. OK, with that change, now I am getting the following in /var/logs/error: Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING: 1159419548.4104459+7be8d8ba533998b5017684209212ea3b97f69527 Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py, line 111, in process g.flatten(p) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 101, in flatten self._write(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 129, in _write self._dispatch(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 155, in _dispatch meth(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 198, in _handle_text self._fp.write(payload) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING: 1159419548.429647+84361715af187a0129c782cfbdfd44e46bffea1a Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py, line 111, in process g.flatten(p) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 101, in flatten self._write(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 129, in _write self._dispatch(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 155, in _dispatch meth(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 198, in _handle_text self._fp.write(payload) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING: 1159419548.445888+df815e5ab55f3c38f6769c68bf3eacfe6e1e7f9a Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py, line 111, in process g.flatten(p) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 101, in flatten self._write(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 129, in _write self._dispatch(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 155, in _dispatch meth(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 198, in _handle_text self._fp.write(payload) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING: 1159419548.466742+12b709a3e7eb14f28ef161a907fd562fffbdbe34 Sep 28 11:13:03 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:03 2006
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: 'str' object has no attribute 'get_sender'
aaron wrote: OK, with that change, now I am getting the following in /var/logs/error: Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) SHUNTING: 1159419548.4104459+7be8d8ba533998b5017684209212ea3b97f69527 Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Sep 28 11:13:02 2006 (51047) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 130, in _dispose more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py, line 153, in _dopipeline sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SpamDetect.py, line 111, in process g.flatten(p) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 101, in flatten self._write(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 129, in _write self._dispatch(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 155, in _dispatch meth(msg) File /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Generator.py, line 198, in _handle_text self._fp.write(payload) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128) Things appear to be very strange. Were these errors in response to unshunting or newly arrived posts? Take a look at some of these qfiles/shunt/*.pck entries with bin/show_qfiles and bin/dumpdb. Do they seem to contain valid messages or are the messages somehow garbled with non-ascii characters? You may want to start over by running ./config.status and make install in the original unpack directory. I don't have any good ideas about this. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help with mailman-bounces
One of our lists held an emergency posting because: Reason: Too many recipients to the message How or where is this defined so I can remove this restriction? Thank you, Layne Meier Cox Newspapers -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with mailman-bounces
Thank you. On Aug 29, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Peter M Von Büren wrote: Layne Meier wrote: One of our lists held an emergency posting because: Reason: Too many recipients to the message How or where is this defined so I can remove this restriction? it's in the Privacy Options - Recipient filters. Change the Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting to nil (0), and you're there. Thank you, Layne Meier Cox Newspapers -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ vonbueren%40id.unibe.ch Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp regards _ Peter M Von Bueren ListMaster ID University Bern _ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with new server.
At 3:55 PM -0400 2006-08-07, Lopez, Carlos Andres wrote: Does anyone know a good site where I can find some good how-to's setup postfix and mailman? We've worked pretty hard on the documentation and the FAQ. Is there something specific you're looking for that is not covered there? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 Founding Individual Sponsor of LOPSA. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help with new server.
Hello. It's my first time I'm working with Linux and my idea is to setup a Mailman server. I'm using Debian and postfix. Does anyone know a good site where I can find some good how-to's setup postfix and mailman? Thanks for your help. Carlos -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help with new server.
On 8/7/06, Lopez, Carlos Andres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know a good site where I can find some good how-to's setup postfix and mailman? This looks promising: http://homex.subnet.at/~max/mail/mailman.php I don't know if it's totally up-to-date, though. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
I have a big problem, and I am hoping someone here has some advice... I have a person on my mailing list who has been very abusive, but has recently taken a turn to the creepy (I would call it cyberstalking), and so I have been trying to eject him from the list. First, I set his address to moderate. He promptly resubscribes with a new email address and continues where he left off. We did a couple iterations of that. Then I set new subscribers to be moderated by default. Then after a pause of a week or so, he starts posting again. But he cannot as only members may post to the list. Looking at the email headers it is clear that he must be forging the email messages to look, to the casual observer, like they are going through the mailing list, but his messages lack the proper Reply-To and all the List-* headers... but he is somehow on the mailing list to be getting the messages to respond to. So, I set all recent subscribers to nomail, under the assumption one of them is him. But his posts (that is, replys to mailing list messages) continue. So he still has an address on the list, but I cannot figure out which one. Here's something weird: someone subscribed a week or so ago, but I cannot find them on the web interface. I get both subscribe and unsubscribe notifications, so I know he didn't unsubscribe. Could this guy be exploiting a bug? One thought I had, was to write a script to send out a specially constructed message to each individual on the list. The message would be forged to look like it came from the list, and each message would have a slight variation which I can map back to the email address that got the message. Then I could know which address is his. This seems like a lot of work and it may not even work. But it's the only thought I've got at this point short of shutting the list down. I have thought about contacting his ISP (Comcast) and seeing if they could help... but I am reluctant to do this as he seems to have no end of energy and can carry a grudge to the end of the earth... and, I have heard that he is a lawyer! So, I have a feeling that would be a very rocky, and ultimately futile, road to go down. Anyway, if anybody has any advice for how to deal with this, or any ideas, I would be ever so grateful! ++thanks, trent... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
Trent Fisher wrote: I have a big problem, and I am hoping someone here has some advice... I have a person on my mailing list who has been very abusive, but has recently taken a turn to the creepy (I would call it cyberstalking), and so I have been trying to eject him from the list. First, I set his address to moderate. He promptly resubscribes with a new email address and continues where he left off. We did a couple iterations of that. Then I set new subscribers to be moderated by default. Then after a pause of a week or so, he starts posting again. But he cannot as only members may post to the list. Looking at the email headers it is clear that he must be forging the email messages to look, to the casual observer, like they are going through the mailing list, but his messages lack the proper Reply-To and all the List-* headers... but he is somehow on the mailing list to be getting the messages to respond to. So, I set all recent subscribers to nomail, under the assumption one of them is him. But his posts (that is, replys to mailing list messages) continue. So he still has an address on the list, but I cannot figure out which one. Here's something weird: someone subscribed a week or so ago, but I cannot find them on the web interface. I get both subscribe and unsubscribe notifications, so I know he didn't unsubscribe. Could this guy be exploiting a bug? One thought I had, was to write a script to send out a specially constructed message to each individual on the list. The message would be forged to look like it came from the list, and each message would have a slight variation which I can map back to the email address that got the message. Then I could know which address is his. This seems like a lot of work and it may not even work. But it's the only thought I've got at this point short of shutting the list down. I have thought about contacting his ISP (Comcast) and seeing if they could help... but I am reluctant to do this as he seems to have no end of energy and can carry a grudge to the end of the earth... and, I have heard that he is a lawyer! So, I have a feeling that would be a very rocky, and ultimately futile, road to go down. Anyway, if anybody has any advice for how to deal with this, or any ideas, I would be ever so grateful! ++thanks, trent... 1.027.htp Have you warned this guy already? I don't mean just removed him from the list but sent him an email(s) that basically stated Stop or you'll be banned or Hey, I warned you. You are now banned.? Is do, did he reply to any of them? I run a small hosting/ISP company and things like this can not be tolerated regardless of the rumored profession. *IF* he is a lawyer then it's even better for you because everything he is doing now to your list is considered SPAM. He's forging headers, he's sending unwanted emails to your list, etc.. The bottom line is this guy is breaking the law and you have recourse. The next big question is do you have a TOS or AUP anywhere the members of this list are supposed to follow and is viewable by the public? If you do then he is definitely violating those agreements and it's really time to stomp on this guy. From the sounds of it you've been nice and now it's time not to be nice. My advice is to go through everything you have that you know is from him and that you suspect is from him and get all the header information, mail server info, etc.. Compile a nice little file showing how this guy has abused your mailing list with SPAM, etc. and then call Comcast and anyone else he's used to do this with, get to their Abuse Dept. and do everything you can to nail this guy to the wall. You have everything you need to drive the nails in so just do it. It also might be worth it to get a consultation from a lawyer who knows about this kind of law. It will be worth the consultation fee for this and future incidents. The reason I say consult a lawyer is because if this guy really is a lawyer and is practicing in one of the 50 states, you maybe able to report him to the Bar Association. I figure they might have a problem with a lawyer breaking the law and using his position as a lawyer to do it. I can't be a 100% on that but it's something to look into. No matter what you need to contact his ISP and get them to do something and you need to not be nice about it. ISPs won't take the risk of legal action being brought against them and will generally remove the customer from their services. Let me know what happens. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy:
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:35:41 -0400 Tom Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trent Fisher wrote: I have a big problem, and I am hoping someone here has some advice... I have a person on my mailing list who has been very abusive, but has recently taken a turn to the creepy (I would call it cyberstalking), and so I have been trying to eject him from the list. snip snip No matter what you need to contact his ISP and get them to do something and you need to not be nice about it. ISPs won't take the risk of legal action being brought against them and will generally remove the customer from their services. Let me know what happens. I've been in a similar situation. I'd certainly follow the advice of Tom. In the meantime I'd put the list on full moderation. If it's a large list with lots of traffic, enlist the help of some trustworthy members who can help moderate. Arrange with those people on the QT, then send an email to members explaining the situation (without details), then set to full moderation and deal with the problem child. Once it's all been dealt with, remove moderation and thank everyone for their cooperation. Whatever you do may cause some people to leave your list. But, it's a much better alternative than to allow this person to totally destroy what you've worked so hard to create ... a community of like-minded people. -- Raquel When you're finally up on the moon, looking back at the earth, all these differences and nationalistic traits are pretty well going to blend and you're going to get a concept that maybe this is really one world and why the Hell can't we learn to live together like decent people? --Frank Borman, American astronaut -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
Are you sure that he's receiving the list emails directly? Is it possible that he has a confederate or sympathizer on the list who is forwarding him the original list emails that he is then forging replies to? I would double-check to make sure that even list members cannot see the addresses of other list members, because he may have gotten the email addresses that way. Your original idea of a 'red herring' message with a per-address uniquie identifier is theoretically sound, but it would have to be a message such that it would entice your abusive user to respond to it in order to find your 'leak'. The other responses have the best approach I think. If you don't have Terms of Service already that people had to agree to, then you need to retroactively come up with some, inform your users and require that they respond in the affirmative to the new rules or they're removed from the list. Then if the abuse continues, you definitely need to bite the bullet and move this towards legal action. I think this is especially true depending on what activities of the person lead you to categorize it as cyberstalking. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help with abusive user...
Trent Fisher wrote: I have a big problem, and I am hoping someone here has some advice... I have a person on my mailing list who has been very abusive, but has recently taken a turn to the creepy (I would call it cyberstalking), and so I have been trying to eject him from the list. Other responders have given good advice. I just want to address a few technical issues. snip Then I set new subscribers to be moderated by default. Then after a pause of a week or so, he starts posting again. But he cannot as only members may post to the list. Looking at the email headers it is clear that he must be forging the email messages to look, to the casual observer, like they are going through the mailing list, but his messages lack the proper Reply-To and all the List-* headers... but he is somehow on the mailing list to be getting the messages to respond to. Does your list have archives? If he is a member, even with delivery disabled, he can visit archives, and if archives are public, anyone can visit them. Is your list roster available to anyone, list members, or only the admin? So, I set all recent subscribers to nomail, under the assumption one of them is him. But his posts (that is, replys to mailing list messages) continue. So he still has an address on the list, but I cannot figure out which one. Here's something weird: someone subscribed a week or so ago, but I cannot find them on the web interface. I get both subscribe and unsubscribe notifications, so I know he didn't unsubscribe. Could this guy be exploiting a bug? Prior to Mailman 2.2 which isn't released yet, changes of address are not logged, so he subscribed and then changed his address. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help Securing Mailman's web GUI by using Secure HTTP/SSL
I added these lines to apache to force https login,I also modified the mm_config.py to change the dafault url and ran the withlist script, but when i put the url on my browser appears a message saying that the redirection has no end or something like that. ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options +ExecCGI -Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM /Directory Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Options FollowSymLinks /Directory Redirect /mailman/ https://name of my server/mailman/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help Securing Mailman's web GUI by using Secure HTTP/SSL
On 26 Jun 2006, at 21:00, daniel trejo wrote: I added these lines to apache to force https login,I also modified the mm_config.py to change the dafault url and ran the withlist script, but when i put the url on my browser appears a message saying that the redirection has no end or something like that. What version of Apache are you running? What other steps have you taken to configure your Apache server to be an HTTPS server? For instance VitualHost directives and such or are you running separate HTTP and HTTPS server instances? What exactly is the error response you say you are getting? This sound more like an Apache configuration problem rather than a Mailman problem. have you checked out the documentation available here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/ http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options +ExecCGI -Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM /Directory Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Options FollowSymLinks /Directory Redirect /mailman/ https://name of my server/mailman/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users% 40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ r.barrett%40openinfo.co.uk Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py? req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help Securing Mailman's web GUI by using Secure HTTP/SSL
On 26 Jun 2006, at 21:00, daniel trejo wrote: I added these lines to apache to force https login,I also modified the mm_config.py to change the dafault url and ran the withlist script, but when i put the url on my browser appears a message saying that the redirection has no end or something like that. Further thought. The browser is telling you that when it requested the URL https:// name of my server/mailman/ it was redirected to the URL https://name of my server/mailman/, which redirected it to the URL https://name of my server/mailman/, which redirected it to the URL https://name of my server/mailman/ ... Browser are programmed to get bored with this infinite loop and quit after 10 or so consecutive redirects back to the same URL. As to what to do, see my previous response. Much depends on what version of Apache ypu are using and the rest of its confiugration. With Apache2 consider using mod_rewrite and the RewriteRule and RewriteCond directives rather than using the Redirect directive. That way you can make the redirection conditional on the request's scheme so that redirection only occurs when an HTTP request is made while the request is actually serviced if an HTTPS request is made. Personally I would use separate HTTP and HTTPS VirtualHost's to make the problem disappear. ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/ Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/ Directory /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options +ExecCGI -Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM /Directory Directory /usr/local/mailman/archives/public AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Options FollowSymLinks /Directory Redirect /mailman/ https://name of my server/mailman/ -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help Securing Mailman's web GUI by using SecureHTTP/SSL
daniel trejo wrote: Redirect /mailman/ https://name of my server/mailman/ I think this is your problem. The FAQ http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.027.htp recommends RedirectPermanent /mailman/ https://name of my server/mailman/ which may or may not have the same problem. You need to insure that whatever redirect you do applies only to http schemes and not https. You may need to use rewrite rules to accomplish this. When you work it out, please let us know the solution so we can update the FAQ if necessary. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] HELP!!!
I sent a mail out to one of my lists and it's sent over 50 of the same mail to it! How can I stop it immediately?! Kane Kane Sterling Contracts and Procurement Executive Accommodation Procurement Team Corporate Strategy Division 6th Floor Riverwalk House 157-161 Millbank London SW1P 4RR (T) 0207 217 3352 (F) 0207 217 3501 Government Office for London - Representing Central Government across the Capital The original of this email was scanned for viruses by Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSI this email was certified virus free. The MessageLabs Anti Virus Service is the first managed service to achieve the CSIA Claims Tested Mark (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007), the UK Government quality mark initiative for information security products and services. For more information about this please visit www.cctmark.gov.ukBEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:STERLING, Kane TEL;WORK:02072173352 ORG:;Corporate and Change Management TEL;PREF;FAX:02072173477 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:[EMAIL PROTECTED] N:STERLING;Kane TITLE:Contract Procurement END:VCARD -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!!!
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Kane STERLING wrote: I sent a mail out to one of my lists and it's sent over 50 of the same mail to it! How can I stop it immediately?! Kane Clear the queue? Kill the server? How IMMEDIATE do you want it? These would also lose potentially other messages. Kane Sterling Contracts and Procurement Executive Accommodation Procurement Team Corporate Strategy Division 6th Floor Riverwalk House 157-161 Millbank London SW1P 4RR (T) 0207 217 3352 (F) 0207 217 3501 Government Office for London - Representing Central Government across the Capital The original of this email was scanned for viruses by Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. On leaving the GSI this email was certified virus free. The MessageLabs Anti Virus Service is the first managed service to achieve the CSIA Claims Tested Mark (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007), the UK Government quality mark initiative for information security products and services. For more information about this please visit www.cctmark.gov.uk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!!!
Kane STERLING wrote: I sent a mail out to one of my lists and it's sent over 50 of the same mail to it! How can I stop it immediately?! If you have sufficient access to the server, bin/mailmanctl stop is the first step. If not, you have to get someone who does have access. You can also turn on emergency moderation on the list's General Options page. Then you have to figure out what's causing this. Is a member's autoresponder posting back to the list? If so, unsubscribe or disable delivery to that member. Mailman has loop protection that will generally not loop when for example, a list is subscribed to itself, but depending on what's causing the looping, this may not be effective as it relies on the presence of an X-BeenThere: list header that may be stripped somewhere in the loop. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing
Hi there, The product of my company uses mailman and we have been receiving spams from time to time. The spams are not directly from spammers, but mailman-bounces and other valid list with -bounces at the end of the list name. We've been looking through bounce processing on the admin part, but it doesn't seem to be the solution of this question since it is only for disabling email accounts. Spam filter under privacy option seems the right place, but the two textareas do not make too much sense to me. Please help. One of the sample is pasted below. Regards, Kinson *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *dacey aseria *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2006 7:38 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* I'm not a follower... I'm a leader with the same idea *Hearty reception,* **untavirazolas[dot]com** she sought in his face signs of the impression she was making on him. She tried to please him, not by her words only, but in her whole person. For his sake it was that she now lavished more care on her dress than before. She caught herself in reveries on what might have been, if she had not been married and he had been free. She blushed with emotion when he came into the room, she could not repress a smile of rapture when he said anything amiable to her. For several days now Countess Lidia Ivanovna had been in a state of intense excitement. She had learned that Anna and Vronsky were in Petersburg. Alexey Alexandrovitch must be saved from seeing her, he must be saved even from the torturing knowledge that that awful woman was in the same town with him, and that he might meet her any minute. Lidia Ivanovna made inquiries through her friends as to what those _infamous people_, as she called Anna and Vronsky, intended doing, and she endeavored so to guide every movement of her friend during those days that he could not come across them. The young adjutant, an acquaintance of Vronsky, through whom she obtained her information, and who hoped through Countess Lidia Ivanovna to obtain a concession, told her that they had finished their business and were going away next day. Lidia Ivanovna had already begun to calm down, when the next morning a note was brought her, the handwriting of which she recognized with horror. It was the handwriting of Anna Karenina. The envelope was of -- *Kinson Liu* | Software Development Engineer | RealNetworks, Inc. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 206.892.6177 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing
Kinson Liu wrote: The product of my company uses mailman and we have been receiving spams from time to time. The spams are not directly from spammers, but mailman-bounces and other valid list with -bounces at the end of the list name. We've been looking through bounce processing on the admin part, but it doesn't seem to be the solution of this question since it is only for disabling email accounts. Spam filter under privacy option seems the right place, but the two textareas do not make too much sense to me. Please help. One of the sample is pasted below. I'm sorry. I do not understand what your problem is. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *dacey aseria *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2006 7:38 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* I'm not a follower... I'm a leader with the same idea This looks like a Microsoft Outlook rendering of a message from the 'mailman' list posted to the list by dacey aseria. This is the way Outlook would show a message with From: dacey aseria [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would be the Sender in a message from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp for more info. The Sender is set to the list-bounces address to help get actual bounces returned to the proper place. Is dacey aseria a list member? It looks like someone has spammed your list by spoofing the address of a list member. There is no good way to deal with this in Mailman although Privacy option-Spam filters may help. The real solution is to do spam filtering in the incoming MTA before the mail ever gets to Mailman. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing
My question is simply why we are getting spams from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Kinson Mark Sapiro wrote: Kinson Liu wrote: The product of my company uses mailman and we have been receiving spams from time to time. The spams are not directly from spammers, but mailman-bounces and other valid list with -bounces at the end of the list name. We've been looking through bounce processing on the admin part, but it doesn't seem to be the solution of this question since it is only for disabling email accounts. Spam filter under privacy option seems the right place, but the two textareas do not make too much sense to me. Please help. One of the sample is pasted below. I'm sorry. I do not understand what your problem is. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *dacey aseria *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2006 7:38 AM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* I'm not a follower... I'm a leader with the same idea This looks like a Microsoft Outlook rendering of a message from the 'mailman' list posted to the list by dacey aseria. This is the way Outlook would show a message with From: dacey aseria [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would be the Sender in a message from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp for more info. The Sender is set to the list-bounces address to help get actual bounces returned to the proper place. Is dacey aseria a list member? It looks like someone has spammed your list by spoofing the address of a list member. There is no good way to deal with this in Mailman although Privacy option-Spam filters may help. The real solution is to do spam filtering in the incoming MTA before the mail ever gets to Mailman. -- *Kinson Liu* | Software Development Engineer | RealNetworks, Inc. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 206.892.6177 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing
Kinson Liu wrote: My question is simply why we are getting spams from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? And my question then is are these spams being delivered from your mailman list to the subscribers of that list or are they just spam that happens to spoof [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the originator. If they are coming from your mailman list, the Sender: will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] just as any post from any of your lists has a Sender: of [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that bounces can be returned there and processed. If they are not coming from your list, then Mailman is not involved, and someone is just spoofing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the originator. If your question is why is the mail being shown as From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dacey aseria instead of just as From: dacey aseria see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help with an install
I need someone familiar with Mailman and Ensim/virtual domains to get an install working right. I've got it installed and parts work, parts don't. I've hammered at it for as long as I care too, and I've reached the limit of my abilities. It's probably a simple fix but I'm just not seeing it, so I'm ready to hire someone to fight it for me. Anyone willing to take a crack at it let me know and we'll work out a deal. Thomas -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help request: new 1300 member list results in mostly bounces
Hello. I'm new to mailman. I've used it to setup an announce-only list for a friend who has over 1300 addresses. Up to this point, she's been simply sending to her entire AOL address book (as this user/account is setup specifically for people who want to receive announcements about her studio). You can imagine the headaches she has sending that way. So I setup a mailman list. Her webhost has mailman included with her account, so I didn't have to install. I sent a few test messages to just her and a couple of my accounts to make sure they were being moderated, and that they went out properly once approved before mass subscribing the other addresses. These messages went out without issue. So, I mass subscribed the other 1300+, and she sent out the first email today. If mailman has a way for the administrator to investigate bounces, I don't know about it, but some time after she'd sent the message out, she and I still had not received it, so I tried to investigate. I logged in and looked up our user info and found that each of us had a bounce score of 1. From my reading and simple math, this means that the 1 message sent out resulted in a hard bounce. To get a sampling of other users, I clicked on G for all emails beginning with g. Of those 30 subscribers, 29 had bounced. Only one subscriber at the domain nyce.net had a bounce score of 0. The other domains: email.com @hotmail.com @hotmail.com @hotmail.com @comcast.net @hotmail.com @eclipse.net @verizon.net @comcast.net @optonline.com @hotmail.com @nc.rr.com @pershing.com @msn.com @ureach.com @yahoo.com @lycos.com @gmail.com @yahoo.com @comcast.net @pabla.net @hotmail.com @usinter.net @pcisvision.com @earthlink.net @gmail.com @msn.com @yahoo.com @aol.com Any advice as to why this is happening? I'm assuming the problem is NOT with mailman itself, but possibly with her webhost (maybe flagged as a spammer by other hosts?). For what it's worth, one other address to which the email did get through was my mac.com address. I noticed in my mac.com web interface that the message showed that it had an attachment, but there was no evidence of that attachment once I clicked through to read the mail. She's sending from AOL, and it does appear that html was included, so maybe the attached file is the html document? I am not her usual web person, so don't have a lot of other info, or a way to take it up directly with the host, however I'm sure I could speak with him and get whatever info is necessary, but at the moment, I don't even know what to ask. Since mailman handles the bounces automatically, I don't even know how to go about figuring out what caused them. Also, is there a way to send out a test message to only a few members of the group? If this were the case, I could try to troubleshoot by sending a message from my account rather than hers, using plain text, etc. Thanks in advance for any help. Nathan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help request: new 1300 member list results inmostly bounces
Nathan wrote: Any advice as to why this is happening? I'm assuming the problem is NOT with mailman itself, but possibly with her webhost (maybe flagged as a spammer by other hosts?). That's one possibility. For what it's worth, one other address to which the email did get through was my mac.com address. I noticed in my mac.com web interface that the message showed that it had an attachment, but there was no evidence of that attachment once I clicked through to read the mail. She's sending from AOL, and it does appear that html was included, so maybe the attached file is the html document? Or maybe it's the list footer. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.039.htp. I am not her usual web person, so don't have a lot of other info, or a way to take it up directly with the host, however I'm sure I could speak with him and get whatever info is necessary, but at the moment, I don't even know what to ask. Since mailman handles the bounces automatically, I don't even know how to go about figuring out what caused them. One possibility is the host has a limit on how many recipients can be addressed in one email or sent to within some time frame. In a hosted situation, it's difficult to deal with bounce info. If bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is on, the owner will get a copy of any disabling bounce, but bounces that only increment the score are not saved or reported. You can set bounce_score_threshold to 1.0 so the member is disabled and the owner notified on the first bounce, but then you have the problem of re-enabling everyone which is tedious via the web. Since you are just setting this up, you could set the threshold low, send a message, see the bounces and then mass remove everyone and mass subscribe them back. Also, is there a way to send out a test message to only a few members of the group? If this were the case, I could try to troubleshoot by sending a message from my account rather than hers, using plain text, etc. Set up a separate test list with only those few addresses. There's no convenient way to disable delivery for all but a few members and then re-enable it. As above, you could mass remove all but a few and then mass subscribe them when you're done. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help with installation on private virtual server
I need help installing MailMan on a linux private virtual server. Happy to pay for the help. Sincerely, Marc Mintz Phone: 505.453.0479 | Toll-Free: 888.591.1152 Skype: marcmintz | iChat: marcmintz == -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
On 4/20/06, Mark.A.Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No problems sending emails, from domain to personal or vice versa. Is your domain email on the list in question? If you send email to your list from your personal email, does it go to the domain email AND the personal email, or just to the personal email? I'm not sure if there are any mailman settings that would produce the behaviour you describe, so it sounds to me like an issue at the ISP level. I may well be wrong, though. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Mark.A.Lombardo wrote: The situation is as follows, if I post from my domain name email accounts, it never appears, but if I post from personal account (not related) to the site, then it come through fine. The incoming MTA (exim?) at the host is routing mail differently depending on whether it originates from your local domain or externally. In the latter case, mail to a list is properly routed to Mailman. In the former case it is not. Possibly it is being delivered to a local mailbox with the name of the list instead. Check for the presence of a local mailbox in your domain containing the missing list posts. If there is such, perhaps you can use that as information in your discussions with the host. I am assuming you don't have any direct control over mail routing. If you do, perhaps you made some change that is causing this. In any case, if the hosting company continues to be unsupportive, it may be time to consider a new host. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help
Please I am at my wits end here. My hosting company are being very unsupportive. I have a domain olney-scout-group.org.uk, which is running the Mailman software. The situation is as follows, if I post from my domain name email accounts, it never appears, but if I post from personal account (not related) to the site, then it come through fine. Please I need to resolve this issue, as quickly as possible. Mark Mark A. Lombardo Tel Fax 01908 614407 Mobile 07957 568696 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.olney-scout-group.org.uk ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Olney Scout Group accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this email. ** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
On 4/19/06, Mark.A.Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The situation is as follows, if I post from my domain name email accounts, it never appears, but if I post from personal account (not related) to the site, then it come through fine. My guess would be that your hosting company is somehow improperly routing internal mail. This is almost certainly not a Mailman issue and, furthermore, almost certainly not something you can fix. You might want to double-check the configuration that you're using to send email (make sure you have the proper SMTP server, etc.) Can your domain name email accounts send mail to your personal account correctly? - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Hi Patrick No problems sending emails, from domain to personal or vice versa. Mark -Original Message- From: Patrick Bogen[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20/04/06 01:59:39 To: Mark.A.Lombardo[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.orgmailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help On 4/19/06, Mark.A.Lombardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The situation is as follows, if I post from my domain name email accounts, it never appears, but if I post from personal account (not related) to the site, then it come through fine. My guess would be that your hosting company is somehow improperly routing internal mail. This is almost certainly not a Mailman issue and, furthermore, almost certainly not something you can fix. You might want to double-check the configuration that you're using to send email (make sure you have the proper SMTP server, etc.) Can your domain name email accounts send mail to your personal account correctly? - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/mark.a.lombardo%40olney-scout-group.org.uk Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp [Message truncated. Tap Edit-Mark for Download to get remaining portion.] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help
Please help I am sending emails to my mail list, the list is not receiving the email. I have queried with the Web Hosting Company, they advised me that they have reset the server; if this does not work then I should consider using another mailing list. Please can someone help? I have tried a test email, by sending it to the list and cc my own email address; it is reaching my private email address, but not the list. I am checking by logging and see if the archive list has changed at all. Please help. Kind Regards Mark Mark A. Lombardo Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.olney-scout-group.org.uk ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Olney Scout Group accepts no responsibility for information, errors or omissions in this email. ** -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
Mark.A.Lombardo wrote: Please help I am sending emails to my mail list, the list is not receiving the email. I have queried with the Web Hosting Company, they advised me that they have reset the server; if this does not work then I should consider using another mailing list. Please can someone help? I have tried a test email, by sending it to the list and cc my own email address; it is reaching my private email address, but not the list. I am checking by logging and see if the archive list has changed at all. Did your list ever work? Can you get mail such as password reminders or subscription confirmations from the list? Have you checked the admindb web interface for held messages? If this is a new list and never worked, there might be something in the configuration such as members moderated by default and member_moderation_action set to discard that would cause this, but most likely this is something that the host would have to resolve and they seem unwilling to help you. The standard troubleshooting FAQ is http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help me; What serve my needs???
Hi Mailman list I work for af company who recently has started sending out weekly newsletters for other companys. Somtimes over 10 mail. It is only needed to send the mail out. And the most important is the speed. Is there another listsoftware there is better for oneway maling ??? and how many mails, do you think can be sent per hour, with the ringt configuration??? -- Med venlig hilsen Jonas Jacobsen Lintoo I/S Buchwaldsgade 50 5000 Odense C kontor: 46935556 mobil: 61656618 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me; What serve my needs???
Jonas Jacobsen, Donnerstag, 6. April 2006 13:54: Somtimes over 10 mail. It is only needed to send the mail out. And the most important is the speed. I don't think that mailman is the bottle neck. It's more the MTA with all it's DNS lookups and other time consuming things. and how many mails, do you think can be sent per hour, with the ringt configuration??? How fast is your internet link? If it's a modem link, it will take a while to send out these 100k mail. -- Andre Tann -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me; What serve my needs???
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Jonas Jacobsen wrote: Somtimes over 10 mail. It is only needed to send the mail out. And the most important is the speed. Is there another listsoftware there is better for oneway maling ??? Maybe, but mailman does it quite well. and how many mails, do you think can be sent per hour, with the ringt configuration??? Largely depends on the MTA and net connection. Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Check the FAQ for performance, large lists, and other similar words. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help
I am needing some help with mailman. First off my webserver is on port and everything works. I did notice that some of the links do not have a : on them. List administrators, you can visit the list admin overview page http://list.memphistw.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin to find the management interface for your list. Overview of all list.memphistw.org mailing lists http://list.memphistw.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo And also the create list page does not have the : on them as well. Another question is how do you set the global create list password? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help
patrick siglin wrote: I am needing some help with mailman. First off my webserver is on port and everything works. I did notice that some of the links do not have a : on them. You need to put DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:/mailman/' in mm_cfg.py and restart mailman and then run fix_url to fix your lists. If you have only the one host, you can just run bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url Another question is how do you set the global create list password? bin/mmsitepass -c -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Sapiro wrote: patrick siglin wrote: I am needing some help with mailman. First off my webserver is on port and everything works. I did notice that some of the links do not have a : on them. You need to put DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s:/mailman/' in mm_cfg.py You might also need or want to set PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL in mm_cfg.py. See FAQ 4.29, Where can I change a list or the default URL used for the web interface? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.029.htp - -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp == Every actual state is corrupt. Good men must not obey the laws too well. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. iG0EARECAC0FAkP6bFgmGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucG9ib3guY29tL350bXovcGdwL3Rt ei5hc2MACgkQuv+09NZUB1pdZQCg3EB1SKr/wa+vaJlP1qEf8q2WYaEAnjAwzY+9 v7eioK+KWgIfAHyEIQCx =XG+I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Kabilan L admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 226, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(5563): entry = l.search_st(self.__mlist.LDAP_BASE, ldap.SCOPE_ONELEVEL ,filterstr=filter)[0] admin(5563): IndexError: list index out of range The search l.search_st(self.__mlist.LDAP_BASE,ldap.SCOPE_ONELEVEL ,filterstr=filter) returned no items. Either it is correct that the LDAP has no entries that satisfy this search and the code doesn't anticipate this, or your search parameters defined in extend.py are wrong. See LDAPMemberships.py for the definition of 'filter' a few lines before the above search. BTW, I can't speak for the others on this list, but I don't know LDAP and can't help with that. I only know Mailman and Python. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=domain dc=com # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=com' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = '' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.domain.com:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = domain.com ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = cn=staff,ou=Group,dc=domain,dc=com list._memberadaptor = ldap If all of the above is *exactly* what is in your config file, then this is part of your problem. Specifically, ldapserver, ldapbasedn, ldapbinddn, ldappasswd, LDAP_URP, and LOCALDOMAIN all contain 'generic' example settings which almost certainly are incorrect. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
The problem is that you need to replace the generic entries with the correct values. I don't know what they are for you; you need to speak with whomever set up the LDAP server in your organization, or at least someone who knows about it. On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hai!! So u say my extend.py is problem,then please do give me the correct way of doing it.how to change things.so it works for me. Thanking You Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:50:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=domain dc=com # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=com' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = '' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.domain.com:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = domain.com ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = cn=staff,ou=Group,dc=domain,dc=com list._memberadaptor = ldap If all of the above is *exactly* what is in your config file, then this is part of your problem. Specifically, ldapserver, ldapbasedn, ldapbinddn, ldappasswd, LDAP_URP, and LOCALDOMAIN all contain 'generic' example settings which almost certainly are incorrect. -- - Patrick Bogen --- End of Original Message --- -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Can you please send your configuration values to the list? Make sure to censor any passwords that may be present. (It looks like something is wrong with the 'LDAP_OWNER_ATTR' value) P.s., make sure to 'reply to all' so that the list gets your posts as well. On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hai!!! Thank u Patrick.I changed the config to correct values still i have this problem admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(9022): main() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 198, in main admin(9022): show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 498, in show_results admin(9022): form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 870, in membership_options admin(9022): all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()] admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 263, in getMembers admin(9022): return self.__ldap_get_members() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 246, in __ldap_get_members admin(9022): self.__ldap_load_members_by_group() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 231, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(9022): ownerdn = attrs[self.__mlist.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR][0] admin(9022): KeyError: 'owner' Any suggestion!! Thank You!! Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:19:09 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent The problem is that you need to replace the generic entries with the correct values. I don't know what they are for you; you need to speak with whomever set up the LDAP server in your organization, or at least someone who knows about it. On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hai!! So u say my extend.py is problem,then please do give me the correct way of doing it.how to change things.so it works for me. Thanking You Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 09:50:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=domain dc=com # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=com' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = '' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.domain.com:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = domain.com ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = cn=staff,ou=Group,dc=domain,dc=com list._memberadaptor = ldap If all of the above is *exactly* what is in your config file, then this is part of your problem. Specifically, ldapserver, ldapbasedn, ldapbinddn, ldappasswd, LDAP_URP, and LOCALDOMAIN all contain 'generic' example settings which almost certainly are incorrect. -- - Patrick Bogen --- End of Original Message --- -- - Patrick Bogen --- End of Original Message --- -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
HAI!! Thanks Mark. I too found that the follwoing didn't work gave nothing in my case. (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) So i changed it in extend.py (|(objectclass=posixGroup)(objectclass=top)) Now i could see the in openldap.log mailman is talking with ldap and has some details like cn=staff,Group ... etc.But I face a new problem that is File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(9022): main() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 198, in main admin(9022): show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 498, in show_results admin(9022): form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 870, in membership_options admin(9022): all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()] admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 263, in getMembers admin(9022): return self.__ldap_get_members() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 246, in __ldap_get_members admin(9022): self.__ldap_load_members_by_group() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 231, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(9022): ownerdn = attrs[self.__mlist.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR][0] admin(9022): KeyError: 'owner' what is the solution?I have it like the below one. I want to know what values can i give to the following.Is it correct to have default onces. ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner Help me Please Thanking You All!! Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailman-users@python.org Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:20:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent Kabilan L admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 226, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(5563): entry = l.search_st(self.__mlist.LDAP_BASE, ldap.SCOPE_ONELEVEL ,filterstr=filter)[0] admin(5563): IndexError: list index out of range The search l.search_st(self.__mlist.LDAP_BASE,ldap.SCOPE_ONELEVEL ,filterstr=filter) returned no items. Either it is correct that the LDAP has no entries that satisfy this search and the code doesn't anticipate this, or your search parameters defined in extend.py are wrong. See LDAPMemberships.py for the definition of 'filter' a few lines before the above search. BTW, I can't speak for the others on this list, but I don't know LDAP and can't help with that. I only know Mailman and Python. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan --- End of Original Message --- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Patrick Bogen wrote: P.s., make sure to 'reply to all' so that the list gets your posts as well. I second the above. On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 231, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(9022): ownerdn = attrs[self.__mlist.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR][0] admin(9022): KeyError: 'owner' You are getting just a little bit further. LDAPMemberships has retrieved something via an LDAP query and is processing first item in the retrieved list. This in turn is another list, the second item of which is assigned to 'attrs' and is apparently a dictionary. Then the key 'owner' which is something you assigned to LDAP_OWNER_ATTR in extend.py is looked up in the dictionary and is not found. If I had to guess what this means, I'd guess that there is no field named 'owner' in the LDAP record, but that's only a guess (count how many times the word 'guess' appears). That is what is happening to cause this error. In order to fix it, you must understand the LDAP data you are retrieving and how to set the various things in extend.py to make it work. The reason all these ldap.LDAP_* attributes are assigned in extend.py and not hard coded in LDAPMemberships.py is that they need to be tailored to the LDAP data and the list, and this needs to be done with an understanding of the LDAP data. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Hai!! This is my extend.py file. from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=ee,dc=iitm,dc=ac,dc=in # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Admin,dc=ee,dc=iitm,dc=ac,dc=in' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = 'xxx' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.ee.iitm.ac.in:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = ee.iitm.ac.in ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=posixGroup)(objectclass=top)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = ou=Group,dc=ee,dc=iitm,dc=ac,dc=in list._memberadaptor = ldap This an ldap record from my server. dn: uid=test6,ou=People,dc=ee,dc=iitm,dc=ac,dc=in uid: test6 cn: testuser6 sn: testuser6 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] objectClass: person objectClass: organizationalPerson objectClass: inetOrgPerson objectClass: posixAccount objectClass: top loginShell: /bin/zsh uidNumber: 10006 gidNumber: 9002 homeDirectory: /home/staff/test6 gecos: testuser6 As Mark,said i know i don't have an entry/attr owner in my record i hashed that line and tried it still didn't work. Help Me please. Thank You ALL Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:48:43 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent Can you please send your configuration values to the list? Make sure to censor any passwords that may be present. (It looks like something is wrong with the 'LDAP_OWNER_ATTR' value) P.s., make sure to 'reply to all' so that the list gets your posts as well. On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hai!!! Thank u Patrick.I changed the config to correct values still i have this problem admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(9022): main() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 198, in main admin(9022): show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 498, in show_results admin(9022): form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 870, in membership_options admin(9022): all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()] admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 263, in getMembers admin(9022): return self.__ldap_get_members() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 246, in __ldap_get_members admin(9022): self.__ldap_load_members_by_group() admin(9022): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 231, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(9022): ownerdn = attrs[self.__mlist.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR][0] admin(9022): KeyError: 'owner' Any suggestion!! Thank You!! Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:19:09 -0600 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent The problem is that you need to replace the generic entries with the correct values. I don't know what they are for you; you need to speak with whomever set up the LDAP server in your organization, or at least someone who knows about it. On 2/13/06, Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hai!! So u say my extend.py is problem,then please do give me the correct way of doing it.how to change things.so it works for me. Thanking You Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Original Message --- From: Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kabilan L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Kabilan L wrote: As Mark,said i know i don't have an entry/attr owner in my record i hashed that line and tried it still didn't work. Help Me please. You can't just hash out lines in extend.py. Every one of them is there for a purpose, and those ldap.* attributes are all referenced in LDAPMemberships.py, so removing any of them will result in NameError exceptions when they are referenced. You have to understand what these things mean in the context of the python-ldap module, LDAPMemberships.py and your LDAP server and data, and provide the appropriate values, and I'm not the one to help you with that. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
hai!!! I am trying to configure LDAPMemberAdaptor-V3.0 in my Ldap Server. I copied extend.py and LDAPMemberships.py to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/. I also copied extend.py to /var/lib/mailman/lists/staff(listname)/. I also added these things in MailList.py import extend # other useful classes from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships so use LDAPMemberships.py for OldStyleMemberships.py . I have following in extend.py from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=domain dc=com # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=com' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = '' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.domain.com:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = domain.com ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = ou=Group,dc=domain,dc=com list._memberadaptor = ldap This what a user looks like in my Ldap Server.User belongs to staff group.I have a MailMan Group staff.But when i click on membership Management in web interface i have this bug Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. dn: uid=test8,ou=People,dc=domain,dc=com uid: test8 cn: testuser8 sn: testuser8 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] objectClass: person objectClass: organizationalPerson objectClass: inetOrgPerson objectClass: posixAccount objectClass: top loginShell: /bin/zsh uidNumber: 11008 gidNumber: 9002 homeDirectory: /home/staff/test8 gecos: testuser8 In /var/log/mailman/error AttributeError: LDAPMemberships instance has no attribute 'ldapserver' Can anyone Help me on this. Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Kabilan L wrote: I am trying to configure LDAPMemberAdaptor-V3.0 in my Ldap Server. I copied extend.py and LDAPMemberships.py to /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/. I doubt that this has anything to do with your problem, but the extend.py file should not be in the /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ directory. A list specific extend.py should be in the /var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/ directory as below. I also copied extend.py to /var/lib/mailman/lists/staff(listname)/. I also added these things in MailList.py import extend Now you do have a problem. The above import is wrong. The MailList class __init__ method actually runs the list's extend.py when the list is instantiated. You definitely do not want to import extend in MailList.py. # other useful classes from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships so use LDAPMemberships.py for OldStyleMemberships.py . Wrong again. The list's extend.py takes care of importing LDAPMemberships and setting mlist._memberadaptor to the list's LDAPMemberships instance. You don't make any changes in MailList.py. Just put an extend.py with the specific LDAP information for that list in that list's list/listname/ directory, and put LDAPMemberships.py in the Mailman/ directory, and the extend.py mechanism already built into MailList.py does the rest. I have following in extend.py from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=domain dc=com # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=com' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = '' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.domain.com:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = domain.com ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = ou=Group,dc=domain,dc=com list._memberadaptor = ldap Looks OK. I don't know the LDAP stuff, but the stuff to make it interface properly as the MemberAdaptor for the list is there, namely from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) and list._memberadaptor = ldap -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help me on LDAPMEMBERADAPTOR-V3.0 very Urgent
Hai!!! The following is the error when in i put extend.py in /var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/. This is what in extend.py from Mailman.LDAPMemberships import LDAPMemberships def extend(list): ldap = LDAPMemberships(list) ldap.ldapsearch = (uid=recipient) # your LDAP search here ldap.ldapserver = 127.0.0.1 # your LDAP server ldap.ldapbasedn = dc=domain dc=com # your base DN ldap.ldapbinddn = 'cn=Manager,dc=domain,dc=com' # bind DN that can access 'mail' field ldap.ldappasswd = '' # bind password for ldapbinddn ldap.LDAP_URL = ldap://ldap.domain.com:389/; ldap.LDAP_MAIL_ATTRS = (mail,) ldap.LDAP_LOCALDOMAIN = domain.com ldap.LDAP_REALNAME_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_MAILMEMBER_ATTRS = (rfc822MailMember,) ldap.LDAP_MEMBER_ATTRS = (uniqueMember,memberUID) ldap.LDAP_OWNER_ATTR = owner ldap.LDAP_LIST_RDN_ATTR = cn ldap.LDAP_LIST_CLASSFILTER = (|(objectclass=groupOfUniqueNames)(objectclass=nisMailAlias)(objectclass=groupOfNames)) ldap.LDAP_BASE = cn=staff,ou=Group,dc=domain,dc=com list._memberadaptor = ldap admin(5563): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.5 -] admin(5563): [- Traceback --] admin(5563): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main admin(5563): main() admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 198, in main admin(5563): show_results(mlist, doc, category, subcat, cgidata) admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 498, in show_results admin(5563): form.AddItem(membership_options(mlist, subcat, cgidata, doc, form)) admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py, line 870, in membership_options admin(5563): all = [_m.encode() for _m in mlist.getMembers()] admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 263, in getMembers admin(5563): return self.__ldap_get_members() admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 246, in __ldap_get_members admin(5563): self.__ldap_load_members_by_group() admin(5563): File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/LDAPMemberships.py, line 226, in __ldap_load_members_by_group admin(5563): entry = l.search_st(self.__mlist.LDAP_BASE, ldap.SCOPE_ONELEVEL ,filterstr=filter)[0] admin(5563): IndexError: list index out of range admin(5563): [- Python Information -] So what is the solution for this problem. Thanking You All!!! kabilan.L -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!
At 8:36 PM -0800 2006-02-03, Mark Sapiro wrote: I have experienced no delays from this list lately, so if there actually was a delay in the list's receiving your mail or your receiving the post back, it is likely a delay occurring between MTAs totally outside of Mailman. We have recently discovered that there are some ISPs in the world that are blocking large chunks of European IP address space, including (but not limited to) all the IP address space that belongs to XS4ALL.nl, the ISP in the Netherlands that provides hosting for all the python.org machines -- especially including the mail server. The ironic thing is that XS4ALL is probably one of the most pro-consumer/anti-spam ISPs in the world, and they are regularly involved in lobbying the European government to get various anti-consumer laws overturned or modified to be more appropriate. They've even been strong enough to hold up against the Scientologists in the US -- they provide hosting facilities for a well-known anti-Scientology website, which had been hounded out of existence at all previous facilities until it reached XS4ALL. I'm going to be setting up my own co-location servers, and XS4ALL is top of my list of sites that I will seriously consider for security purposes, possibly including other sites at Sealand, ServerVault (where a friend of mine used to work), and other highly secure facilities. Anyway, if you're having delays in getting e-mail to your site from this mailing list, one thing you want to check is to make sure that you're not blacklisting or firewalling IP addresses belonging to the network owned by XS4ALL. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005. See http://www.lopsa.org/. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!
Bob Bales wrote: I have a mailman list that has been working just fine. But, all of a sudden my admin account is not receiving mail from or sending mail to the list. Any suggestions? Is it still subscribed? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!
- Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP! Bob Bales wrote: I have a mailman list that has been working just fine. But, all of a sudden my admin account is not receiving mail from or sending mail to the list. Any suggestions? Is it still subscribed? Yes, Mark. It is still subscribed. I had the same problem with this list, and I changed email addresses and that ended it, as far as receiving email. I emailed my HELP email at 9:23 am, it didn't show up on the list until 4:23PM. I changed addresses for the other list and didn't have any effect at all. Bob -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP!
Bob Bales wrote: I had the same problem with this list, and I changed email addresses and that ended it, as far as receiving email. I emailed my HELP email at 9:23 am, it didn't show up on the list until 4:23PM. I don't have your original post that I received from the list, but if you have it, check for the presence of an X-Mailman-Approved-At: header indicating it was approved by a moderator and when. I have experienced no delays from this list lately, so if there actually was a delay in the list's receiving your mail or your receiving the post back, it is likely a delay occurring between MTAs totally outside of Mailman. I changed addresses for the other list and didn't have any effect at all. So what is actually happening with this other list. You receive no mail from the list? You post to the list and no one receives your post and it doesn't appear in the archive? Other people post and receive OK? You say your address is subscribed. Is mail delivery enabled? You say you changed addresses. From the user options page? Did you receive and respond to the confirmation? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help getting list info from mailman
Hi- I'm running a mailman listserv through my webserver's cpanelx interface. I'm trying to get a complete list of the subscribed emails (nearly 2500) using the who and/or list_members commands. The security is set so that list members can see who's on the list. I've used this command successfully on smaller lists I run, but I keep getting blank responses on this one. Here's an example: The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts - Done. Any help or advice would be ridiculously welcome. Best, Jaclyn -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-getting-list-info-from-mailman-t938820.html#a2432315 Sent from the Mailman - Users forum at Nabble.com. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help getting list info from mailman
JaclynF (sent by Nabble.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your original message. - Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts - Done. I replied to your other post which you sent directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That reply is at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-January/048635.html. But I didn't notice the Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts above. Your who command must be in the subject of the request or it must be in a text/plain part. If the message you are sending to the LIST-request address is HTML or rich text only, and the commands are in the message body, it won't work. If the command is not in the subject, it must be in a text/plain body part, preferably in a text/plain only message. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help sending to multiple lists
Andy Bardwell wrote: I am working with a community radio station which has multiple lists in Mailman that are used to contact volunteers. A volunteer can be on several of the lists. We frequently want to send to all volunteers. Is there a way to send to all the lists, with out duplicates? One way this could happen would be to merge all the lists, eliminate duplicates, and send to the resulting list. Is there a script that will do this or some other way of accomplishing sending an email to multiple lists without duplicates? Any suggestions welcome. As noted in the reply at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-January/048458.html to your previous post, See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.005.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help !!! Having Subgroups/Subsets a group
Kabilan L wrote: I have Centos sever having mailman-2.1.5-33.rhel4 installed and configured it is working fine.I have LDAP running on my server.I have an doubt in the creating new lists/groups.I want to have subgroups.For example i have students suppose in ms group phd group btech group Here all of them are students i don't want to add their ids to the group students ratheri i want this students |-|| msphd btech that is ms/phd/btech subgroups of students. Is it possible? It seems like you want an umbrella list. See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.005.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help !!! Having Subgroups/Subsets a group
Hello!!! I have Centos sever having mailman-2.1.5-33.rhel4 installed and configured it is working fine.I have LDAP running on my server.I have an doubt in the creating new lists/groups.I want to have subgroups.For example i have students suppose in ms group phd group btech group Here all of them are students i don't want to add their ids to the group students ratheri i want this students |-|| msphd btech that is ms/phd/btech subgroups of students. Is it possible? THANKING U ALL Kabilan.L Department of Electrical Engineering IIT Madras Chennai - 600 036 Tamil Nadu, INDIA The secret to winning football games is working more as a team, less as individuals. I play not my 11 best, but my best 11. -Knute Rockne -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Help sending to multiple lists
I am working with a community radio station which has multiple lists in Mailman that are used to contact volunteers. A volunteer can be on several of the lists. We frequently want to send to all volunteers. Is there a way to send to all the lists, with out duplicates? One way this could happen would be to merge all the lists, eliminate duplicates, and send to the resulting list. Is there a script that will do this or some other way of accomplishing sending an email to multiple lists without duplicates? Any suggestions welcome. Bardwell Consulting Robert A(ndy) Bardwell, Ph.D. 4801 W. Yale Ave. Denver, CO 80219 Voice: 303-934-3851 Cell: 720-219-3627 Fax: 303-975-8513 www.bardwellconsulting.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help: web interface broken Mailman Administrative Database Error
Hello All, This is my first post and I'm new to the list; apologies if this has been addressed already, though I didn't find any references in the archives or via google. Here's the issue. I'm administrating 9 domains on a Verio VPS. Each domain has its own install of Mailman and have been running flawlessly for months. Last night, the physical server was taken down for a memory upgrade; today 6 of the 9 domains no longer list email lists at http://domain.tld/mailman/ or http://domain.tld/mailman/admin/ The lists still seem to be working, and the bin/check_db and bin/ check_perms both run fine. All other functionalities seem to be intact; I can add and remove members, list the lists, etc all on the command line, though the web interface is just broken in that it states There currently are no publicly-advertised Mailman mailing lists on domain.tld. I've checked the config.pck files and advertising is set to 1. I'm at a loss of where to look next; any suggestions are *very* appreciated. Thanks! Kevin Callahan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help: web interface broken Mailman AdministrativeDatabase Error
Kevin Callahan wrote: Here's the issue. I'm administrating 9 domains on a Verio VPS. Each domain has its own install of Mailman and have been running flawlessly for months. Last night, the physical server was taken down for a memory upgrade; today 6 of the 9 domains no longer list email lists at http://domain.tld/mailman/ or http://domain.tld/mailman/admin/ See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help: web interface broken MailmanAdministrativeDatabase Error
Mark Sapiro wrote: Kevin Callahan wrote: Here's the issue. I'm administrating 9 domains on a Verio VPS. Each domain has its own install of Mailman and have been running flawlessly for months. Last night, the physical server was taken down for a memory upgrade; today 6 of the 9 domains no longer list email lists at http://domain.tld/mailman/ or http://domain.tld/mailman/admin/ See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.062.htp This may have been a bit hasty. Are you saying that the lists just don't appear on the overview for the domain or that you are receiving the Mailman Administrative Database Error No such list if you try to go to the admindb page for the list. The latter is inconsistent with lists working You say you can see the lists and add and remove members from the command line. Do you see the Administrative Database Error if you go to http://domain.tld/mailman/admindb/listname for a valid listname? What happens if you go to http://domain.tld/mailman/admin/listname or http://domain.tld/mailman/listinfo/listname? If the problem is just that the lists don't appear on the overview pages, then the above FAQ applies. If the other things give errors, then there's something else wrong. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] help file
I've read in the Mailman FAQ that there is a help file that you can retrieve by requesting through email. Does this have to be set up separately? I've sent mail to the request address, with help in the subject line, but I do not receive any mail with the help instructions in them. Did I misunderstand something? Thanks in advance, Sandy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] help file
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read in the Mailman FAQ that there is a help file that you can retrieve by requesting through email. Does this have to be set up separately? I've sent mail to the request address, with help in the subject line, but I do not receive any mail with the help instructions in them. Did I misunderstand something? I don't know if you misunderstood or not. Did you get any reply? You don't have to set anything up for this to work. Do other mails to the list-request address work? Any mail to the list request address should produce a 'results of your email commands' return email. The RFC 2369 List-Help: header contains a mailto URI that should work. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems
I have written about this before and still have the problems, I viewed the posts that Mark sent me with no real luck. Mostly lack of understanding. Mark suggested it could be server side. I went to my server and they can do everything on their side with no problems at all. Here's my problems: When I go into any of the admin/mod panels I can mark a change but when I click submit I am taken right back to the sign-in page, whereupon signing back in the change was not made. I was allowed to set up the mail list and do everything that I needed done, but after that time I was locked out of being able to make any changes. Anybody have the same problem, and what did you do about it. And I am below novice level so type slowly and use small words, please. ;-) Bob Bales -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
Add to last post, I just went down to my grandaughters room and checked it out on her computer which is networked thru mine. And voila, everything works perfect. So, it has to be something local to mine. Now I just gotta figure out what. Any ideas? Bob Bales -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
Bob Bales wrote: Add to last post, I just went down to my grandaughters room and checked it out on her computer which is networked thru mine. And voila, everything works perfect. So, it has to be something local to mine. Now I just gotta figure out what. Your web browser is not accepting cookies. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
- Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2 Your web browser is not accepting cookies. Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they say they are on. Bob Bales -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
On 11/10/05 9:12 AM, Bob Bales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2 Your web browser is not accepting cookies. Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they say they are on. Or the failing machine's clock is way off. Did it forget about the end of daylight time, perhaps? --John -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems#2
John W. Baxter wrote: On 11/10/05 9:12 AM, Bob Bales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: Your web browser is not accepting cookies. Mark, I have cookies turned on in both IE6 and in Firefox. Or at least they say they are on. Or the failing machine's clock is way off. Did it forget about the end of daylight time, perhaps? I don't think the clock on the machine running the web browser has any effect no matter how far off it is. There is a 'timestamp' encoded in the cookie, but this timestamp is created on the Mailman host machine and then validated upon receipt back against the host machine's clock. The client machine isn't even aware that the cookie contains a timestamp. I think the only case where time is a problem is if the host sends me a cookie and then daylight saving time/summer time ends and I send the cookie containing the timestamp which is now later that the current host time. The original post in this thread seemed to say that this problem affected all users, thus I said This is typically caused by not accepting cookies in your browser, but since it appears to be a global issue, it may have something to do with the server's sending/receiving of cookies. Then in a followup, Bob said that he had the problem on his machine, but not on his granddaughter's. Thus, it is clearly not a server level issue, but must be a problem with the local machine. I think it must be cookie related. I suggest in IE6, go to Tools-Internet Options-Privacy-Sites and set the mailman host domain to always allow cookies. I don't know Firefox directly, but in Netscape 8 it would be under Tools-Options-Site Controls and you have to be sure cookies are enabled for the trust level of the mailman host domain. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
